View Full Version : Playoff Projections (Week 10)
jc84chill
11-02-2008, 07:19 PM
Here you go...
We ran through the districts and highlighted each team (in red) on the brackets that could still change spots depending on Week 10 results. All teams in black are locked into their current spots.
Please PM one of us if you notice that we left someone out that is locked in or vice versa.
Playoff Projections (Week 10) (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_playoffprojections_10.htm)
caesarscott
11-02-2008, 07:39 PM
you keep predicting Pville to play Reagan and it seems to me its all but certain they're going to play Smithson Valley.
i think the only way your prediction can happen is if SV beats Roosevelt and Reagan loses to Madison. any other combo gives Reagan the top seed in the D2 bracket.
did y'all predict that to happen or just not pay close enough attention to it.
HebronHawk
11-02-2008, 07:41 PM
I'm pretty sure that Hebron's spot cannot change. They are locked into #1 seeding in D2 for Dist. 6-5A no matter what happens on Friday with Marcus.
Hebron has the lowest enrollment in the district.
wperry4
11-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Abilene High vrs Midland Lee in the Second Round would be legit to see....like the LSWC all over again
coveaggie
11-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Are you picking Cove to lose to Harker Heights???
That would be the only way that AMC finishes ahead of us in the district standings
SWMHebron
11-02-2008, 08:20 PM
Here you go...
We ran through the districts and highlighted each team (in red) on the brackets that could still change spots depending on Week 10 results. All teams in black are locked into their current spots.
Please PM one of us if you notice that we left someone out that is locked in or vice versa.
Playoff Projections (Week 10) (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_playoffprojections_10.htm)
In 6-5A, Hebron and Marcus are in. Hebron will be D2. While remote, there is the possibility Southlake Carroll could miss altogether so they certainly should not be in black. What has to happen:
SLC loses to Lewisville (IMO highly unlikely) AND
Coppell loses to Flower Mound
SLC, Coppell, and Flower Mound would all be 2-3 in district. This brings in whatever tie breakers exist for 6-5A.
If SLC is out, then Marcus falls to D2 since Coppell and Flower Mound both have larger enrollments.
jc84chill
11-02-2008, 08:48 PM
In 6-5A, Hebron and Marcus are in. Hebron will be D2. While remote, there is the possibility Southlake Carroll could miss altogether so they certainly should not be in black. What has to happen:
SLC loses to Lewisville (IMO highly unlikely) AND
Coppell loses to Flower Mound
SLC, Coppell, and Flower Mound would all be 2-3 in district. This brings in whatever tie breakers exist for 6-5A.
If SLC is out, then Marcus falls to D2 since Coppell and Flower Mound both have larger enrollments.
SLC shouldn't be in black for sure, if they are I'll have to fix that.
PermianFan
11-02-2008, 08:48 PM
According to a post on the El Paso message board Coronado, El Dorado and Hanks are still battling for the last two playoff positions in 1-5A. If it comes down to a coin-toss (they say that is the tie-breaker), El Dorado could lose out and Montwood would be in the big school bracket.
jc84chill
11-02-2008, 08:48 PM
Are you picking Cove to lose to Harker Heights???
That would be the only way that AMC finishes ahead of us in the district standings
Forgot A&M Consolidated forfeited the Belton game.
jc84chill
11-02-2008, 08:58 PM
In 6-5A, Hebron and Marcus are in. Hebron will be D2. While remote, there is the possibility Southlake Carroll could miss altogether so they certainly should not be in black. What has to happen:
SLC loses to Lewisville (IMO highly unlikely) AND
Coppell loses to Flower Mound
SLC, Coppell, and Flower Mound would all be 2-3 in district. This brings in whatever tie breakers exist for 6-5A.
If SLC is out, then Marcus falls to D2 since Coppell and Flower Mound both have larger enrollments.
The black and the red I was referring are for the Brackets only. Appreciate the response, all of these should be projected on the brackets and colored correctly .
WildcatFan2
11-02-2008, 09:05 PM
Are the sites for the games posted anywhere? Specifically Plano vs Duncanville and Wylie vs ??
KatyTigerDad0407
11-02-2008, 09:08 PM
Why is Katy-Cinco a key game with playoff implications?
KT2000
11-02-2008, 09:46 PM
Why is Katy-Cinco a key game with playoff implications?
If Seven Lakes and Mayde Creek win their games, then the Katy-Cinco game determines Division 1 seeding so that is potentially very significant.
whatabeast
11-02-2008, 09:54 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like Pearland has a cake walk to the 4th round?
Shoot2thrill
11-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like Pearland has a cake walk to the 4th round?
Do you have any idea how many teams thought they had a cake walk into the next round and ended up sitting home? And that includes the mighty Katy. ;):eek:
MemorialMustangs
11-02-2008, 10:01 PM
If Seven Lakes and Mayde Creek win their games, then the Katy-Cinco game determines Division 1 seeding so that is potentially very significant.
Ya... If Katy and Cinco go D-I that game will determine who will lose to Memorial in the first round ;)
(a little sarcasm - I dont call games easy wins - with the exception of Northbrook and Spring Woods - before games)
MemorialMustangs
11-02-2008, 10:05 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like Pearland has a cake walk to the 4th round?
they have to play us in the 3rd round if we beat Lamar... Ill be honest I dont know where we stand as far as other teams in Houston (due to our lack of out of district games - we would have played Pearland)... But we are very similar... Traditional pound it out teams with some of the top defense in Houston that have developed a passing game this season... Pearland's Oline scares me but if any year we beat Pearland it would be this year not because I think they are weak, but because of the way our offense has played... Offense is always the key for us because our defense consistantly holds teams to less than 10 points... But admittedly none of those teams were Pearland...
We still got a Katy district team (we could play anyone of like 4 teams) and probably Lamar before we can look or think about Pearland though...
jdlewallen
11-02-2008, 10:24 PM
Gee, if everything works out, at least we wouldn't have to face Trinity until the FOURTH round instead of the third round this year...yeah....;)
ScottS
11-02-2008, 10:41 PM
In 6-5A, Hebron and Marcus are in. Hebron will be D2. While remote, there is the possibility Southlake Carroll could miss altogether so they certainly should not be in black. What has to happen:
SLC loses to Lewisville (IMO highly unlikely) AND
Coppell loses to Flower Mound
SLC, Coppell, and Flower Mound would all be 2-3 in district. This brings in whatever tie breakers exist for 6-5A.
If SLC is out, then Marcus falls to D2 since Coppell and Flower Mound both have larger enrollments.
Um, I'll have to dig up the thread, but someone said the tie breakers were points and SLC was ahead of both Coppell and FM, so I think the the final spot would be between those 2, rather than SLC.
ScottS
11-02-2008, 10:44 PM
Ok, I found the post, by SLC13 regarding the 2nd level tie brackers....
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=38288&page=5
1st post on this link. Basically says SLC is in, if there is a 3 way tie.
bowiedawgs01
11-02-2008, 10:47 PM
If Westlake loses to Akins (hahaha), and Bowie beats Bastrop, they could flip in the standings.
ScottS
11-02-2008, 10:49 PM
In 6-5A, Hebron and Marcus are in. Hebron will be D2. While remote, there is the possibility Southlake Carroll could miss altogether so they certainly should not be in black. What has to happen:
SLC loses to Lewisville (IMO highly unlikely) AND
Coppell loses to Flower Mound
SLC, Coppell, and Flower Mound would all be 2-3 in district. This brings in whatever tie breakers exist for 6-5A.
If SLC is out, then Marcus falls to D2 since Coppell and Flower Mound both have larger enrollments.
Here is the post from SLC13 on the 6-5A thread.....
MF....... I believe you are correct, in a threeway tie, the 2nd level is point differential capped at either 14 or 21 (14 is more common). So here's what it would like:
Hebron is in - clinched D2 1st seed
Marcus is in - clinched D1 1st seed
SLC is in - clinched D2 2nd seed
Coppell controls its own destiny with a win.
Flower Mound needs SLC to win over Lewisville - and then they control their own destiny with a win over Coppell.
In a SLC, Coppell, FM three way tie (using 14 as cap) .....
SLC is +10 (or whatever the max is)
Coppell is +4
FM is -14 (or whatever the min is)
FM would need to beat Coppell by 10 or more to get into the PO's as D1 2nd seed.
If FM wins by 9, it would go to third level (whatever that is)........otherwise Coppell qualifiies.
uhsfilmcrew
11-02-2008, 11:07 PM
the 295 is ready to take on the state, as it is already completed. just one more week. aaahhhhh my favorite time of year, when the days get cooler, you get that playoff fever in you, the practices look great at night. LOVE IT!!!:D
PirateFan
11-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Are the sites for the games posted anywhere? Specifically Plano vs Duncanville and Wylie vs ??
Wylie Plays Allen
Squirrel88
11-02-2008, 11:51 PM
I know I am going to create some new friends and enemy's with this post, but I see 5A Division 1 coming down to this.
Region 1: Euless Trinity
Region 2: Woodlands
vs
Region 3: North Shore
Region 4: Converse Judson
Just as a side note, I hope we play at the alamodome this year, if NS faces Judson.
PermianFan4Life
11-03-2008, 12:08 AM
I know I am going to create some new friends and enemy's with this post, but I see 5A Division 1 coming down to this.
Region 1: Euless Trinity
Region 2: Woodlands
vs
Region 3: North Shore
Region 4: Converse Judson
Just as a side note, I hope we play at the alamodome this year, if NS faces Judson.
The game of the year in D1 will be whoever plays Trinity in the 4th, I hope it's us though.
TrojanMom88
11-03-2008, 12:13 AM
The game of the year in D1 will be whoever plays Trinity in the 4th, I hope it's us though.
I think most of us would welcome that!! :D:D
Region 1 play is going to be tough for everyone and I agree it will be the forth week game of the year much like the PLANO game last year!
TrojanMom88
11-03-2008, 12:14 AM
I know I am going to create some new friends and enemy's with this post, but I see 5A Division 1 coming down to this.
Region 1: Euless Trinity
Region 2: Woodlands
vs
Region 3: North Shore
Region 4: Converse Judson
Just as a side note, I hope we play at the alamodome this year, if NS faces Judson.
Nope, unless something changes it is a Reliant Stadium HOUSTON Sat December 20, 2008!
PirateFan
11-03-2008, 12:39 AM
I hope after dallas cowboys leave texas stadium that it still remains for HS football. it was an honor to play there when i was in school and would hate to see it get tore down for apartments. im not sure how long after new stadium opens texas stadium will be available. so if your team plays there film it. it might be last time :(
TrojanHorse03
11-03-2008, 12:45 AM
The game of the year in D1 will be whoever plays Trinity in the 4th, I hope it's us though.
There's no guarantee whatsoever Trinity makes it that far. Nothing they've done so far puts points on the scoreboard against Bell or for the postseason. Coppell shouldn't be taken lightly and a possible matchup in the 2nd round with Plano would give Trinity everything they could handle imo.
HebronHawk
11-03-2008, 06:23 AM
Here is the post from SLC13 on the 6-5A thread.....
MF....... I believe you are correct, in a threeway tie, the 2nd level is point differential capped at either 14 or 21 (14 is more common). So here's what it would like:
Hebron is in - clinched D2 1st seed
Marcus is in - clinched D1 1st seed
SLC is in - clinched D2 2nd seed
Coppell controls its own destiny with a win.
Flower Mound needs SLC to win over Lewisville - and then they control their own destiny with a win over Coppell.
In a SLC, Coppell, FM three way tie (using 14 as cap) .....
SLC is +10 (or whatever the max is)
Coppell is +4
FM is -14 (or whatever the min is)
FM would need to beat Coppell by 10 or more to get into the PO's as D1 2nd seed.
If FM wins by 9, it would go to third level (whatever that is)........otherwise Coppell qualifiies.
Flower Mound and Coppell's points can change based on what happens in the final game but they can't both get to better than 10+ so it appears that Carroll is in.
Squirrel88
11-03-2008, 06:30 AM
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Nope, unless something changes it is a Reliant Stadium HOUSTON Sat December 20, 2008!
if/when we play judson, its going to be region 3 vs 4 and it can be wherever. :) The state game (winner of 1 vs 2 against winner of 3 vs 4) will be at reilient.
SWMHebron
11-03-2008, 06:36 AM
Ok, I found the post, by SLC13 regarding the 2nd level tie brackers....
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=38288&page=5
1st post on this link. Basically says SLC is in, if there is a 3 way tie.
Thanks. :notworthy At least they have tie breakers instead of some idiotic coin flp.
HebronHawk
11-03-2008, 06:39 AM
I hope after dallas cowboys leave texas stadium that it still remains for HS football. it was an honor to play there when i was in school and would hate to see it get tore down for apartments. im not sure how long after new stadium opens texas stadium will be available. so if your team plays there film it. it might be last time :(
It will be the last time. Texas Stadium will see the wrecking ball near the first part of 2009.
NorthTexUmp
11-03-2008, 06:40 AM
I hope after dallas cowboys leave texas stadium that it still remains for HS football. ...
thats would be great, but its not gonna happen - sorry
SWMHebron
11-03-2008, 06:43 AM
It will be the last time. Texas Stadium will see the wrecking ball near the first part of 2009.
Yeah -- real bummer. Since it is so close we go watch non-Hebron games during the playoffs. I'm not sure we would drive to Arlington or (please, no) the Cotton Bowl if it wasn't Hebron.
KT2000
11-03-2008, 07:20 AM
It will be the last time. Texas Stadium will see the wrecking ball near the first part of 2009.
I can think of no better sending off for that stadium. :)
Jerry really let that thing go to the dumps.
chap fan
11-03-2008, 07:35 AM
I know I am going to create some new friends and enemy's with this post, but I see 5A Division 1 coming down to this.
Region 1: Euless Trinity
Region 2: Woodlands
vs
Region 3: North Shore
Region 4: Converse Judson
Just as a side note, I hope we play at the alamodome this year, if NS faces Judson.
Why would you think Judson would make it to regional finals? Because they're in a weaker district this year?
kopanthers
11-03-2008, 07:35 AM
so does the top d-2 team play the top d-2 team in their opposing district?
you keep predicting Pville to play Reagan and it seems to me its all but certain they're going to play Smithson Valley.
i think the only way your prediction can happen is if SV beats Roosevelt and Reagan loses to Madison. any other combo gives Reagan the top seed in the D2 bracket.
did y'all predict that to happen or just not pay close enough attention to it.
That is what most people in the SA area see happening
I know I am going to create some new friends and enemy's with this post, but I see 5A Division 1 coming down to this.
Region 1: Euless Trinity
Region 2: Woodlands
vs
Region 3: North Shore
Region 4: Converse Judson
Just as a side note, I hope we play at the alamodome this year, if NS faces Judson.
I don't see Judson making the deep playoff run this year. They lost to the only real competition they have seen this year in SV and Phlugerville and only beat Wagner 28-21 which is the only team worth anything in there district..I don't see them beating 2 26-5a teams before the semis.
panthercrazy
11-03-2008, 07:56 AM
How does Division 1 Region 4 Weslaco move to Division 2 Region 4?
panthercrazy
11-03-2008, 07:59 AM
Man it seems that this year 5A is really sloppy.... Too Many Upsets?
KT2000
11-03-2008, 08:21 AM
How does Division 1 Region 4 Weslaco move to Division 2 Region 4?
San Benito moved back into the projections after beating Pace. If Hanna beats Pace this week (possible), San Benito will be in as long as they don't lose to Rivera. Porter plays Los Fresnos, so Porter likely moves from 4-2 to 4-3 in district. Weslaco should take care of Lopez. If Pace wins, then Weslaco moves back to D1. There isn't much separating the teams after Los Fresnos, so this is still up in the air.
BackNBlack97
11-03-2008, 08:22 AM
Just wondering why you have Abilene in black, when there's the chance of a 3 way tie between Haltom, Burleson and Weatherford, and Weatherford getting in would push them to D1? Is there a tie breaker in place that eliminates Weatherford even if they are in a 3 way tie?
KT2000
11-03-2008, 08:31 AM
Just wondering why you have Abilene in black, when there's the chance of a 3 way tie between Haltom, Burleson and Weatherford, and Weatherford getting in would push them to D1? Is there a tie breaker in place that eliminates Weatherford even if they are in a 3 way tie?
There is a possibility Weatherford could make the playoffs, so I guess Abilene shouldn't be in black. I don't see it happening, but the possibility is there. Depending on the district tie break rules (your guess is as good as mine since they all do it their own way), Weatherford would need to beat Burleson by at least 12 points in order to overcome Haltom in a point differential. Haltom beat Weatherford by 6 and lost to Burleson by 1 (+5).
BackNBlack97
11-03-2008, 08:35 AM
I'll be rooting for weatherford then... I'd love to see Abilene in the D1 playoffs... It is really sad what they did to the old LSWC, splitting them up and putting the Midessa teams in a district where they only get 1 non district game... AHS-PHS has been a really good match up the past few years... The chance for Abilene and Mojo to meet up again this year would be great...
DragonFan0316
11-03-2008, 10:56 AM
In 6-5A, Hebron and Marcus are in. Hebron will be D2. While remote, there is the possibility Southlake Carroll could miss altogether so they certainly should not be in black. What has to happen:
SLC loses to Lewisville (IMO highly unlikely) AND
Coppell loses to Flower Mound
SLC, Coppell, and Flower Mound would all be 2-3 in district. This brings in whatever tie breakers exist for 6-5A.
If SLC is out, then Marcus falls to D2 since Coppell and Flower Mound both have larger enrollments.
Wouldn't head to head be the first tie breaker? SLC beat FM. Wouldn't that mean they are in? I really don't know so any help would be appreciated.
Magellan
11-03-2008, 11:13 AM
I hope after dallas cowboys leave texas stadium that it still remains for HS football. it was an honor to play there when i was in school and would hate to see it get tore down for apartments. im not sure how long after new stadium opens texas stadium will be available. so if your team plays there film it. it might be last time :(
I don't think the City of Irving is going to keep it around. That's why JJ is selling the seats in Texas Stadium.
Jayhawker
11-03-2008, 01:29 PM
JC - I noticed that Lufkin & Oak Ridge can change after Week 10 -- can you explain? Also what would create a change for Leander going against Cy Creek?
Just trying to see who Klein Oak might match up with.
RedRage00
11-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Victoria Memorial is still in the hunt.
It all comes down to this weeks game vs East Central. Winner is in. Loser is out....4th place that is.
MADFAN#1
11-03-2008, 04:49 PM
you keep predicting Pville to play Reagan and it seems to me its all but certain they're going to play Smithson Valley.
i think the only way your prediction can happen is if SV beats Roosevelt and Reagan loses to Madison. any other combo gives Reagan the top seed in the D2 bracket.
did y'all predict that to happen or just not pay close enough attention to it.
With all four 265 teams locked it to the playoffs, the only thing remaining is seeding. The four teams play each other this weekend meaning right now all four still have a chance to win district. The seedings will not be determined until games are finished. If I had to pick a district champion I would say SV wins district and #1 seed in D2, Reagan 2nd seed D2, Madison 1st seed and TR 2nd seed in D1.
MADFAN#1
11-03-2008, 04:51 PM
I don't see Judson making the deep playoff run this year. They lost to the only real competition they have seen this year in SV and Phlugerville and only beat Wagner 28-21 which is the only team worth anything in there district..I don't see them beating 2 26-5a teams before the semis.
I would have to agree with CKE on this one. Judson has not played a meaningful game all year (maybe Wagner). No telling what the kids will do when they actually have to "play" a game for 4 quarters.
SWMHebron
11-03-2008, 05:03 PM
Wouldn't head to head be the first tie breaker? SLC beat FM. Wouldn't that mean they are in? I really don't know so any help would be appreciated.
In another thread it has been said that even in a 3 way tie SLC holds the point differential tie breaker. The problem if all of those are tied:
Coppell beat SLC
SCL beat Flower Mound
IF Flower Mound beats Coppell you are on a Merry-Go-Round.
This is all moot if SLC beat LHS (which they should). They they are in, and Coppell and Flower Mound play for the last spot, and none of us need calculators to figure out the point differentials.
mojo4life
11-03-2008, 05:45 PM
In another thread it has been said that even in a 3 way tie SLC holds the point differential tie breaker. The problem if all of those are tied:
Coppell beat SLC
SCL beat Flower Mound
IF Flower Mound beats Coppell you are on a Merry-Go-Round.
This is all moot if SLC beat LHS (which they should). They they are in, and Coppell and Flower Mound play for the last spot, and none of us need calculators to figure out the point differentials.
wow that's complicated,,,Man Imagine if S.Lake wouldn't of come back to beat Marcus....all the algebra in the world wouldn't of let them in the playoffs....but they did win; so let the formulas continue.......
jc84chill
11-03-2008, 05:51 PM
JC - I noticed that Lufkin & Oak Ridge can change after Week 10 -- can you explain? Also what would create a change for Leander going against Cy Creek?
Just trying to see who Klein Oak might match up with.
Lufkin plays Oak Ridge this weekend. Whomever wins this game will be the #1 seed out of this District and the loser will be the #2 seed and face Oak.
Leander is part of a 4-way tie on 3-3 records for the last two playoff spots.
Leander plays Cedar Park (one of the four tied) this week.
If Leander wins, they will be going D2 as the #2 seed and playing Creek.
If Cedar Park wins, then they will go D2 as the #2 seed and playing Creek.
The loser will miss out on the playoffs all together.
Round Rock has the D2 #1 seed on lock. Stony Point has the D1 #1 seed on lock.
I believe. :)
SWMHebron
11-03-2008, 08:36 PM
wow that's complicated,,,Man Imagine if S.Lake wouldn't of come back to beat Marcus....all the algebra in the world wouldn't of let them in the playoffs....but they did win; so let the formulas continue.......
But infinitely better than a coin toss.
HacksawJimDuggan
11-03-2008, 10:02 PM
Who is playing Garland in the first round? Is it Richardson Berkner or Richardson HS?
Also, Allen better beware of SGP.
mcneilmav
11-03-2008, 10:32 PM
I believe it's part of the Saturday Quadruple Header at TS.
Do they clear out and clean up between games?
TrojanMom88
11-03-2008, 10:42 PM
5-5A has a similar tie in the works:
Trinity vs. Bell- If bell wins no tie and if they lose
and if Keller wins over Fossil Ridge
and Northwesst wins over Keller Central
then Keller, Bell and Northwest are in a thre way tie
Bell beat Keller and lost to Northwest who beat Bell!!!
I have heard that it is a coin toss to decide the fate....
THSBandDad
11-03-2008, 11:03 PM
Do they clear out and clean up between games?
They don't!! Second game folks start filtering in during the first game. First game people try to get out while second and third game fans are trying to get in. Makes for some really horrible traffic problems. Just ask anyone that tried to get into the SLC-Trinity game two years ago. I know people that left early for the game and didn't get into their seats until the third quarter, INCLUDING the Trinity Band!!
THSBandDad
11-03-2008, 11:28 PM
Thats why I sit in the endzone and shimmy my way around while people fight going up and down. I am sat very fast:D
SSHHHHH!! You aren't supposed to let EVERYONE know that!! :cool:
Pearland Longhorn
11-03-2008, 11:55 PM
Is it just me, or does it look like Pearland has a cake walk to the 4th round?
If there's any team out there that deserves it I think it's us. We have had to play a top 10 state ranked team within the first two rounds of the playoffs every year since 2002.
TrojanMom88
11-04-2008, 12:14 AM
They don't!! Second game folks start filtering in during the first game. First game people try to get out while second and third game fans are trying to get in. Makes for some really horrible traffic problems. Just ask anyone that tried to get into the SLC-Trinity game two years ago. I know people that left early for the game and didn't get into their seats until the third quarter, INCLUDING the Trinity Band!!
That issue came from failure to treat it like a NFL game, the attendance at that game was crazy, I left at 8am and set in line to park about an hour and another 30 mins to get in the Stadium. Irving treated it like any other playoff game and was caught on their heels and as far as the band goes they left the school much later than any other group. It was rumored that they were practicing.
THSBandDad
11-04-2008, 12:24 AM
That issue came from failure to treat it like a NFL game, the attendance at that game was crazy, I left at 8am and set in line to park about an hour and another 30 mins to get in the Stadium. Irving treated it like any other playoff game and was caught on their heels and as far as the band goes they left the school much later than any other group. It was rumored that they were practicing.
The band also treated it like any other playoff game and got caught too. :( And just a note, the band ALWAYS has a practice before the games; that's playoff games, district games, non-district games.
TS should have handled it like a NFL game, for sure. The didn't have nearly enough entrances open to get the cars moved into the lot in a decent manner. Hopefully they've learned something, but after the way a couple of other HS games were handled since then, I don't thing they have. :mad:
I hope that Trinity gets the first game of the day!! SOOO much easier.
PirateFan
11-04-2008, 12:35 AM
i have done that 12hr quad game on sat b4 and its Great Wylie as 4a 4yrs ago went to finals and we were 2nd game and plano was 3rd game. i think last game was HP im not sure but we decided to stay and watch last game
Dynastybegan86
11-04-2008, 01:02 AM
I'd like to keep this thread limited to the posting of sites and times. Any bracket questions or playoff talk can go in the pinned Bracket Projections thread. Thanks!
....
ScottS
11-04-2008, 05:57 AM
But infinitely better than a coin toss.
They should get rid of the coin toss all together. If things are tied all the way down the line, have them meet back up and have a punt pass and kick competition. Something other than random.
SMC020
11-04-2008, 06:14 AM
I would have to agree with CKE on this one. Judson has not played a meaningful game all year (maybe Wagner). No telling what the kids will do when they actually have to "play" a game for 4 quarters.
What they will do is play hard and win that simple :D What you all fail to realize is that Judson is not just winning but we are beating teams soundly. As far as P'ville and SV ...these were close games lost by mental breakdowns in the second half. And isn't P ville and SV supposedly the best of the best out there. What makes you think that if Judson lost to them at the beginning of the season..................with emphasis on the beginning that they haven't got any better. You will be surprised what a team can do when they work hard and believe!!
Also Judson is suppose to meet Stevens in round one. We should have a good game and advance....I hope :-) but then we are suppose to play Roosevelt. Didn't Madison just beat the crap out of them. If we do our job we can advance to the third round and we all know how the third round can be. So with all this being said Judson may meet Madison in round 4. SV beat Madison and SV beat Judson...........Madison Judson game should be a good game. I'm not going to sit here and say Judson WILL go deep but I think their chances are as good as any other D1 school in 26 5A.
Panther #73
11-04-2008, 08:13 AM
You will be surprised what a team can do when they work hard and believe!!
Yea make it to state :notworthy:D
Jayhawker
11-04-2008, 09:16 AM
what a great venue!!! 12+ hours of nonstop action.
..are talking about the same Texas Stadium?
Aggie
11-04-2008, 09:58 AM
I hope that Trinity gets the first game of the day!! SOOO much easier.
Even if Trinity is not the first game..just get there early and go to all 4 games
owlfan 1
11-04-2008, 11:21 AM
Who is playing Garland in the first round? Is it Richardson Berkner or Richardson HS?
Also, Allen better beware of SGP.
It'll be Berkner unless Richardson wins this week vs Creekview and Berkner loses... in that case, Garland would play Skyline...
Aggie
11-04-2008, 11:34 AM
It'll be Berkner unless Richardson wins this week vs Creekview and Berkner loses... in that case, Garland would play Skyline...
Wow...Garland-Skyline would be a tough Bi-District matchup!:eek:
saMavsFan
11-04-2008, 11:41 AM
They should get rid of the coin toss all together. If things are tied all the way down the line, have them meet back up and have a punt pass and kick competition. Something other than random.
Agreed. Nothing like having Sir Isaac Newton deciding what a year of hard work will end up being.
TheScout
11-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Texas Stadium games
November 137:30 PM Plano West vs. Cedar HillNovember 146:00 PM Plano vs. Duncanville
9:00 PM Wyle vs. Irving/Irving Mac
November 15 10:00 District 5/6 bi-district
01:00 District 5/6 bi-district
04:00 District 5/6 bi-district
08:00 District 5/6 bi-districtOther DFW locations
November 14Garland vs. Berkner Williams Stadium 7:30
Allen vs. South Grand Prarie Mesquite Memorial
We've already mentioned half of these games:rolleyes:
Wypirates03
11-04-2008, 12:39 PM
Found this regarding 5A Houston area teams.
• District 13-5A: Klein Forest (5-1) and Klein Oak (5-1) are in. Forest will be the top Division I seed, Oak will be the top Division II seed. Westfield (4-2) is in and will be the No. 2 Division I seed. Klein Collins (4-2) is in with a win. Klein (3-3) needs a win and a Klein Collins loss.
• District 14-5A: The Woodlands (3-1), Conroe (3-1), Lufkin (3-1) and Oak Ridge (2-2) are in. The Woodlands is the top Division I seed with a win or Conroe loss. The winner of the Lufkin-Oak Ridge game gets the top Division II seed.
• District 15-5A: Cypress Creek (6-0) and Cy Ridge (5-1) are in. Cy Creek is the top Division II seed, Cy Ridge is the second Division II seed. Cy Woods (4-2) is in with a win and would be the top Division I seed. Cy Falls (3-3), Cy Springs (3-3) and Langham Creek (3-3) are in a three-way tie for fourth. In a three-way tie, a tiebreaker would be used.
• District 17-5A: Cinco Ranch (4-0) and Katy (4-0) are in. Cinco Ranch is the top Division I seed and Katy is the top Division II seed unless Mayde Creek and Seven Lakes qualify for the playoffs, in which case Katy would move to Division I and the winner of the Tigers’ game with Cinco Ranch would be the top Division I seed. Morton Ranch (1-3) plays Mayde Creek (1-3) and Katy Taylor (1-3) plays Seven Lakes (1-3), with the winners in.
• District 18-5A: Strake Jesuit (6-0), Memorial (5-1) and Stratford (4-2) are in. Strake Jesuit is the top Division II seed, Stratford is the second Division II seed. Memorial is the top Division I seed. Alief Taylor (3-3) and Elsik (3-3) meet Friday, and the winner gets the last spot.
• District 19-5A: Eisenhower (6-0) is in and is the top Division I seed. Humble (4-2) is in and is the top Division II seed. Kingwood (3-2) plays Atascocita (2-3). Kingwood is in with a win. Atascocita is in with a win and an Aldine (2-3) loss. Three-way ties are decided by a tiebreaker.
• District 20-5A: Lamar (4-0), Madison (3-1), Westside (3-1) and Chavez (2-2) are in. Lamar (No. 1) and Westside (No. 2) are the Division I seeds, Madison (No. 1) and Chavez (No. 2) are the Division II seeds.
• District 21-5A: North Shore (4-0), Beaumont West Brook (4-0) and Baytown Sterling (2-2) are in. North Shore (No. 1) and Baytown Sterling (No. 2) are the Division I seeds, West Brook is the top Division II seed. Baytown Lee (1-3) and Port Arthur Memorial (1-3) play for the final spot.
• District 22-5A: Pearland (6-0) and Deer Park (5-1) are in. Pearland is the top Division I seed and Deer Park is the second seed. La Porte (4-2) is in with a win and would be the top Division II seed. Pasadena Memorial (3-3), South Houston (3-3) and Dobie (3-3) are in a three-way tie for fourth. Three-way ties are decided by a tiebreaker.
• District 23-5A: Hightower (4-0) and Travis (4-0) are in. Hightower is the top Division I seed; Travis is the top Division II seed. FB Austin (2-2) will play FB Marshall (2-2) and Elkins (3-1) will play Kempner (2-2). The winners will earn playoff berths.
TulsaHale74
11-04-2008, 12:41 PM
We've already mentioned half of these games:rolleyes:
You're wrong. ALL of these games have been mentioned in this thread.
Thanks for your valuable input to this thread though.
TheScout
11-04-2008, 01:04 PM
You're wrong. ALL of these games have been mentioned in this thread.
Thanks for your valuable input to this thread though.
Then don't waste time putting it in here again. Go away.
Aggie
11-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Then don't waste time putting it in here again. Go away.
Tulsa, I appreciate you putting that post up with all the TS games listed.
TheScout..your post is pretty much a waste of time for everybody to read. Grow up!
Wypirates03
11-04-2008, 01:19 PM
Tulsa, I appreciate you putting that post up with all the TS games listed.
TheScout..your post is pretty much a waste of time for everybody to read. Grow up!
I actually agree with TheScout on this one. No need to duplicate posts.
DragonFan0316
11-04-2008, 01:21 PM
I have been a Texan by choice for 12 years. I have never had anything bad to say about Texas HS football. Well I finally found a chink in th armor. Tie breakers!!!! What is up with this coin flip :Censor:? The UIL couldn't higher someone with a calculator to put together a points for and against system with a cap so as to discourage running up the score? The fate of a team needs to be determined on the field, not with a coin flip. Of course that is my opinion, I could be wrong!:mad:
DragonFan0316
11-04-2008, 01:22 PM
Found this regarding 5A Houston area teams.
District 13-5A: Klein Forest (5-1) and Klein Oak (5-1) are in. Forest will be the top Division I seed, Oak will be the top Division II seed. Westfield (4-2) is in and will be the No. 2 Division I seed. Klein Collins (4-2) is in with a win. Klein (3-3) needs a win and a Klein Collins loss.
District 14-5A: The Woodlands (3-1), Conroe (3-1), Lufkin (3-1) and Oak Ridge (2-2) are in. The Woodlands is the top Division I seed with a win or Conroe loss. The winner of the Lufkin-Oak Ridge game gets the top Division II seed.
District 15-5A: Cypress Creek (6-0) and Cy Ridge (5-1) are in. Cy Creek is the top Division II seed, Cy Ridge is the second Division II seed. Cy Woods (4-2) is in with a win and would be the top Division I seed. Cy Falls (3-3), Cy Springs (3-3) and Langham Creek (3-3) are in a three-way tie for fourth. In a three-way tie, a tiebreaker would be used.
District 17-5A: Cinco Ranch (4-0) and Katy (4-0) are in. Cinco Ranch is the top Division I seed and Katy is the top Division II seed unless Mayde Creek and Seven Lakes qualify for the playoffs, in which case Katy would move to Division I and the winner of the Tigers game with Cinco Ranch would be the top Division I seed. Morton Ranch (1-3) plays Mayde Creek (1-3) and Katy Taylor (1-3) plays Seven Lakes (1-3), with the winners in.
District 18-5A: Strake Jesuit (6-0), Memorial (5-1) and Stratford (4-2) are in. Strake Jesuit is the top Division II seed, Stratford is the second Division II seed. Memorial is the top Division I seed. Alief Taylor (3-3) and Elsik (3-3) meet Friday, and the winner gets the last spot.
District 19-5A: Eisenhower (6-0) is in and is the top Division I seed. Humble (4-2) is in and is the top Division II seed. Kingwood (3-2) plays Atascocita (2-3). Kingwood is in with a win. Atascocita is in with a win and an Aldine (2-3) loss. Three-way ties are decided by a tiebreaker.
District 20-5A: Lamar (4-0), Madison (3-1), Westside (3-1) and Chavez (2-2) are in. Lamar (No. 1) and Westside (No. 2) are the Division I seeds, Madison (No. 1) and Chavez (No. 2) are the Division II seeds.
District 21-5A: North Shore (4-0), Beaumont West Brook (4-0) and Baytown Sterling (2-2) are in. North Shore (No. 1) and Baytown Sterling (No. 2) are the Division I seeds, West Brook is the top Division II seed. Baytown Lee (1-3) and Port Arthur Memorial (1-3) play for the final spot.
District 22-5A: Pearland (6-0) and Deer Park (5-1) are in. Pearland is the top Division I seed and Deer Park is the second seed. La Porte (4-2) is in with a win and would be the top Division II seed. Pasadena Memorial (3-3), South Houston (3-3) and Dobie (3-3) are in a three-way tie for fourth. Three-way ties are decided by a tiebreaker.
District 23-5A: Hightower (4-0) and Travis (4-0) are in. Hightower is the top Division I seed; Travis is the top Division II seed. FB Austin (2-2) will play FB Marshall (2-2) and Elkins (3-1) will play Kempner (2-2). The winners will earn playoff berths.
Nice research. Thanks.
ExCOOG88
11-04-2008, 01:33 PM
I have been a Texan by choice for 12 years. I have never had anything bad to say about Texas HS football. Well I finally found a chink in th armor. Tie breakers!!!! What is up with this coin flip :Censor:? The UIL couldn't higher someone with a calculator to put together a points for and against system with a cap so as to discourage running up the score? The fate of a team needs to be determined on the field, not with a coin flip. Of course that is my opinion, I could be wrong!:mad:
It is my understanding that each district chooses their own way of determining tie breakers.
Wypirates03
11-04-2008, 01:34 PM
It is my understanding that each district chooses their own way of determining tie breakers.
Correct.
Usually if it's a 2-way, it's head to head
3-way is traditionally a 14 or 21 ppg capped point differential. Although, one of the DFW districts uses a 15 point cap.
TheScout
11-04-2008, 02:09 PM
I have been a Texan by choice for 12 years. I have never had anything bad to say about Texas HS football. Well I finally found a chink in th armor. Tie breakers!!!! What is up with this coin flip :Censor:? The UIL couldn't higher someone with a calculator to put together a points for and against system with a cap so as to discourage running up the score? The fate of a team needs to be determined on the field, not with a coin flip. Of course that is my opinion, I could be wrong!:mad:
They decided this to keep teams from running up the score. each district is different.
Oiler Alumni Deer Dad
11-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Nice research. Thanks.
Question.
Are the matchups predetermined before the season? For example 22-5A district champion playes 21-5A runner up?
SWMHebron
11-04-2008, 09:16 PM
Question.
Are the matchups predetermined before the season? For example 22-5A district champion playes 21-5A runner up?
Yes. District 1 plays District 2, 3 plays 4 and so on.
2smooth07
11-05-2008, 07:33 AM
If it stays the same the Euless Trinity-Coppell game would be a big bi-district game...whats the chances of the Coppell pulling the upset off if it does go down
gstope
11-05-2008, 09:06 AM
" District 19-5A: Eisenhower (6-0) is in and is the top Division I seed. Humble (4-2) is in and is the top Division II seed. Kingwood (3-2) plays Atascocita (2-3). Kingwood is in with a win. Atascocita is in with a win and an Aldine (2-3) loss. Three-way ties are decided by a tiebreaker."
I am certain that this is wrong. Kingwood is already in based on district tie breaker rules. With a three way tie between Kwood, Aldine and Atascocita, Kwood is +5, Aldine is +4 and Atascocita would be whatever they outscore Kwood by with a win to force a three way tie. Kingwood could be at worst 2nd out of three. As the final tally goes, if Atascocita wins the other District spot, Kingwood goes second seed Div 1 and if Aldine gets the other spot, Kingwood ends up Div II second seed.
So it will be Houston Lamar or Houston Madison first round depending on this weekends results.
slcdragonfan
11-05-2008, 10:00 AM
If it stays the same the Euless Trinity-Coppell game would be a big bi-district game...whats the chances of the Coppell pulling the upset off if it does go down
I don't see that happening. Trinity is the definition of steady. Coppell is very streaky. Coppell has talent but it seems they have to get 'up' very high to play top ball. They can score fast. And of course, there is the Coach Campo factor.:)
Should be a 1 and out for Coppell if Trinity brings its normal game.
Maxthedog
11-05-2008, 11:19 AM
They decided this to keep teams from running up the score. each district is different.
Originally Posted by DragonFan0316
I have been a Texan by choice for 12 years. I have never had anything bad to say about Texas HS football. Well I finally found a chink in th armor. Tie breakers!!!! What is up with this coin flip ? The UIL couldn't higher someone with a calculator to put together a points for and against system with a cap so as to discourage running up the score? The fate of a team needs to be determined on the field, not with a coin flip. Of course that is my opinion, I could be wrong!
Should have been around in the ugly old days. Penetrations. The thought of a game being decided that way still makes me wanna hurl!
jgg050759
11-06-2008, 07:21 AM
I have been a Texan by choice for 12 years. I have never had anything bad to say about Texas HS football. Well I finally found a chink in th armor. Tie breakers!!!! What is up with this coin flip :Censor:? The UIL couldn't higher someone with a calculator to put together a points for and against system with a cap so as to discourage running up the score? The fate of a team needs to be determined on the field, not with a coin flip. Of course that is my opinion, I could be wrong!:mad:
Or maybe they could higher someone hire up than that!!:D
It is my understanding that each district chooses their own way of determining tie breakers.
This is true which is why in 26-5a you have to try to win by 21 each game because it is decided by points in our district and the maximum the district recognizes each game is 21
goodessa
11-08-2008, 01:09 AM
I am an odessa high fan first but odessa permian fan second and I cant figure out for the life of me why permian gets no love in the texas 5a football rankings as it pertains to this website who currently rank odessa permian 11th.If you ask me this is maddnes.if you ask me, football is still easiest won when you are bigger and stronger than everybody else'I would go so far as saying permian has the biggest most talented offensive line in the state they are this years version of last years euless trinity team that basicly bullied everybody all the way to a state championship.all I have to say is LT 6"5 320,LG 6"3 360,C 6"0 270,RG 6"2 280,RT 6"5 300.WATCH OUT STATE.
85Roughneck
11-08-2008, 06:05 AM
Not trying to pick nits here, but on the Playoff Projections page where all four teams from each district is listed 17-5 lists Morton Ranch with the * ... shouldn't Taylor have the * ... I'm fairly sure Morton is going D2 ... right?
HebronHawk
11-08-2008, 08:15 AM
FM Marcus slides into the game vs. Euless Trinity as the No. 2 D1 seed from Dist. 6-5A on a points tiebreaker. Coppell gets the easier game as the No. 1 D1 seed vs. Justin Northwest.
FM Marcus is the better matchup from Dist. 6-5A D1 with a chance to beat Euless Trinity. Not a good chance, just a chance.
They are a big, physical team with a good running game which will match up better against Trinity than Coppell would, imo.
THSBandDad
11-08-2008, 11:42 AM
FM Marcus slides into the game vs. Euless Trinity as the No. 2 D1 seed from Dist. 6-5A on a points tiebreaker. Coppell gets the easier game as the No. 1 D1 seed vs. Justin Northwest.
FM Marcus is the better matchup from Dist. 6-5A D1 with a chance to beat Euless Trinity. Not a good chance, just a chance.
They are a big, physical team with a good running game which will match up better against Trinity than Coppell would, imo.
Well, I've seen matchups all over the place showing Trinity playing Coppell, and just about as many showing Trinity playing FM Marcus. So, I'm just not sure who the Trinity opponent will be. But, one thing I know for sure, Trinity plays at 4:00 and will just have to beat whoever shows up for the game.
TheScout
11-08-2008, 01:51 PM
FM Marcus slides into the game vs. Euless Trinity as the No. 2 D1 seed from Dist. 6-5A on a points tiebreaker. Coppell gets the easier game as the No. 1 D1 seed vs. Justin Northwest.
FM Marcus is the better matchup from Dist. 6-5A D1 with a chance to beat Euless Trinity. Not a good chance, just a chance.
They are a big, physical team with a good running game which will match up better against Trinity than Coppell would, imo.
I think Coppell would have a better shot at Trinity with their passing game, than Marcus with their running game. It's alright Trinity has some unfinished business with Marcus from the 90's.
jrock210
11-08-2008, 03:29 PM
Judson vs Stevens
Heard a rumor Friday at Rutledge Stadium
and the jumbo tron is now working
rocketgrl94
11-08-2008, 04:02 PM
Judson vs Stevens
Heard a rumor Friday at Rutledge Stadium
and the jumbo tron is now working
it better be workin' if not i know where u be!:D;)
jrock210
11-08-2008, 04:40 PM
it better be workin' if not i know where u be!:D;)
This time it's straight form the coaches mouth...
Tuesday I saw the American flag video thingee which was pretty cool and Thursday I saw a music video being played constantly. I think they were trying to get the sound to match up with video but I'm not sure.
Someone told me thee cameras will be fixed within the week before Friday and I just heard a rumor that it is a Saturday game.
THSBandDad
11-09-2008, 06:14 PM
When will we get to see the actual playoff brackets instead of last week's projection?
Also, since you had FMM in black in the lower half of the R1 bracket, what logic were you using that they'd be the "winner" of 6-5A over Coppell? (I'm sure you were using the same logic as the rest of us that still don't understand why they used a 3-way tie breaker in that instance. :confused:)
eisenhower_true_eagle
11-09-2008, 07:48 PM
Is there a reason that the area rankings havent been changed since week 6.
HomeofChampions'06
11-09-2008, 08:20 PM
I sure am ready to start making my picks!
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