**Carroll Dragon Fan Thread**

[JagFan]

No problem. How do I change my screen name without creating a new account? I don't want to be known as a poster with multiple screen names. The current screen name is not meant to be a joke or offensive. If you met me you'd understand.
However, I will change as requested because I can see yours and KJ's point.
I just reed to know how to change it.

Thank you.

Send a Pm to KT2000 and tell him what you want to change it to. That way you will still have your posts just a different screen name.

[toonman]

Elite Coaches in the Metroplex:

Joey Florence
Brian Brazil
Joey McGuire
Kenny Perry
Jeff Dicus
GA Moore

Just off the top of my head and very quick. I am sure I missed some.

The rest of the discussion I will send to you via PM

Had to edit, Lineweaver of course, I always forget him because he is so low key and it is just a given, he is at the top of the list.

I have 2 of the 5 on my list.

[kjones003]

There were only about 10 folks at practice tonight.... last year maybe 55 for same practice. Was it b/c of the 8th grade game or lack of enthusiasm?

I think the town is doing a poor job of marketing this game! We should have signs similar to election signs stating time and date of game up and be sure local paper has a real spread about th where and when. The booster website should open to a full splash page about the playoff game...

I will volunteer to help if someone in a leadership position on CISD staff, Booster Club, Council, etc points in the direction.

I heard a paent asking what is going on w lack of support. Maybe just the Dawson/Carroll game.. and tomorrow will be normal.

PM if you don't know where and when practice is tomorrow and Ill respond if you are a DRAGON! '-)

[Champion]

I used to enjoy this forum stuff but this thread is beyond stupid now and a waste of everybody's time. The negative opinions of a few sound ferocious.

All this stuff starts in Pee Wee football and other rec leagues as parents start believing their kid is the next Peyton Manning and it just gets escalated when they begin playing in the school programs. When a real professional coach (as opposed to a Pee Wee football coach or dad) has a logical unbiased evaluation of a player the parent gets upset if their kid isn't a Daxx Garmin, a Paul Stevenson or a Kenny Hill. The kid makes some bad choices or has had some bad parenting, the kid doesn't get to play, or doesn't get to play in a position he wants to play, so he just quits. The parents get pissed because Johnny is upset, has hurt feelings or his chance for a scholarship goes up in smoke. And instead of accepting that maybe this is just life or the coaches are right, they vent by blaming others, primarily the coaches. They do more harm to their kids by telling their kids they got shafted by the school and the coaches instead of teaching them a life lesson and helping them grow from their setback. The kids are told they have been victimized!

I know my son is above all this stuff. He recognizes some parents are screwed up. He knows some kids make bad choices or are not the best teammates. It has no impact on his game face or his ability on the field.

SLC has a no cut football team which I support. A lot of kids get great pride of putting on the uniform even though they know they won't step onto the field on Friday night. They all make contributions during practice and the game.

These coaches are better men than I. They work hard for the pay they receive. They need to be tough to tune out the garbage that some parents throw out. They do it because they love the game and they love the kids.

This years team (players, coaches, trainers and assistants) are a little like our Vietnam Vets who came home from an unpopular war and were not thanked by many. Our Vietnam Vets were warriors who did their best. This years team (including the coaches) need to be thanked for fighting through all the crap that some screwed up parents and so called Dragon faithful have created.

[SLCbandmom]

There were only about 10 folks at practice tonight.... last year maybe 55 for same practice. Was it b/c of the 8th grade game or lack of enthusiasm?


Maybe all the fans are at the girls' volleyball playoff game. They play Marcus tonight.

[dragnmom]

I used to enjoy this forum stuff but this thread is beyond stupid now and a waste of everybody's time. The negative opinions of a few sound ferocious.

All this stuff starts in Pee Wee football and other rec leagues as parents start believing their kid is the next Peyton Manning and it just gets escalated when they begin playing in the school programs. When a real professional coach (as opposed to a Pee Wee football coach or dad) has a logical unbiased evaluation of a player the parent gets upset if their kid isn't a Daxx Garmin, a Paul Stevenson or a Kenny Hill. The kid makes some bad choices or has had some bad parenting, the kid doesn't get to play, or doesn't get to play in a position he wants to play, so he just quits. The parents get pissed because Johnny is upset, has hurt feelings or his chance for a scholarship goes up in smoke. And instead of accepting that maybe this is just life or the coaches are right, they vent by blaming others, primarily the coaches. They do more harm to their kids by telling their kids they got shafted by the school and the coaches instead of teaching them a life lesson and helping them grow from their setback. The kids are told they have been victimized!

I know my son is above all this stuff. He recognizes some parents are screwed up. He knows some kids make bad choices or are not the best teammates. It has no impact on his game face or his ability on the field.

SLC has a no cut football team which I support. A lot of kids get great pride of putting on the uniform even though they know they won't step onto the field on Friday night. They all make contributions during practice and the game.

These coaches are better men than I. They work hard for the pay they receive. They need to be tough to tune out the garbage that some parents throw out. They do it because they love the game and they love the kids.

This years team (players, coaches, trainers and assistants) are a little like our Vietnam Vets who came home from an unpopular war and were not thanked by many. Our Vietnam Vets were warriors who did their best. This years team (including the coaches) need to be thanked for fighting through all the crap that some screwed up parents and so called Dragon faithful have created.

Amen Bro! Go Dragons!

[kjones003]

Yep.. what a year they are having! I know a few left practice to head that way...

Crazy with Tennis, Swimming, Both Cross Country teams, and the volleyball teams all really having amazing accomplishments this year! Football getting ready to leave their mark as well.

Plus... BAND AND BELLES...

Maybe all the fans are at the girls' volleyball playoff game. They play Marcus tonight.

[kjones003]

It dampens it for me too... but there are only a few... the masses are still focused on the appropriate thing... support the young adults of our community.

I used to enjoy this forum stuff but this thread is beyond stupid now and a waste of everybody's time. The negative opinions of a few sound ferocious.

All this stuff starts in Pee Wee football and other rec leagues as parents start believing their kid is the next Peyton Manning and it just gets escalated when they begin playing in the school programs. When a real professional coach (as opposed to a Pee Wee football coach or dad) has a logical unbiased evaluation of a player the parent gets upset if their kid isn't a Daxx Garmin, a Paul Stevenson or a Kenny Hill. The kid makes some bad choices or has had some bad parenting, the kid doesn't get to play, or doesn't get to play in a position he wants to play, so he just quits. The parents get pissed because Johnny is upset, has hurt feelings or his chance for a scholarship goes up in smoke. And instead of accepting that maybe this is just life or the coaches are right, they vent by blaming others, primarily the coaches. They do more harm to their kids by telling their kids they got shafted by the school and the coaches instead of teaching them a life lesson and helping them grow from their setback. The kids are told they have been victimized!

I know my son is above all this stuff. He recognizes some parents are screwed up. He knows some kids make bad choices or are not the best teammates. It has no impact on his game face or his ability on the field.

SLC has a no cut football team which I support. A lot of kids get great pride of putting on the uniform even though they know they won't step onto the field on Friday night. They all make contributions during practice and the game.

These coaches are better men than I. They work hard for the pay they receive. They need to be tough to tune out the garbage that some parents throw out. They do it because they love the game and they love the kids.

This years team (players, coaches, trainers and assistants) are a little like our Vietnam Vets who came home from an unpopular war and were not thanked by many. Our Vietnam Vets were warriors who did their best. This years team (including the coaches) need to be thanked for fighting through all the crap that some screwed up parents and so called Dragon faithful have created.

[Austin109]

Howdy Dragons! Just stopping in to wish you guys luck and let yall know I'm rooting for yall. When and where is your game this week? If I get the chance I might be making a road trip to go see an offensive war ;)

Good luck Dragons and know Katy and its fans is rooting for yall!

[kjones003]

Last post today...

Hope you all saw the article regarding Austin's (Romero) recovery! My son and I stopped by and saw him really briefly as my kid wanted to give him some seashells he picked up at the beach a month ago... he is a heckuva good young man. God bless him (and his MOM!) and his determination and fight... he is a DRAGON through and through...

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/11/09/2617812/miracle-recovery-continues.html


also on the page at www.carrolldragons.com

[Champion]

Hey did you see the game video of the Denton Guyer kid head butting our tackle? My head hurts watching it.

[dragons08]

For those interested on how former Dragons are doing, Jackson Richards was named the Scout Team Player of the week for Texas Tech. We look forward to him having a big role in upcoming seasons for us.

From my understanding, he is red-shirting this year. So hopefully we'll have 4 years of him getting some good PT and making big plays.

Wreck 'Em

[gasman]

It is time to stop all of this nonsense and start regaining back our Dragon pride. Lets get behind the team and the coaches. We let negativity get the best of us!

[slcdragonfan]

There were only about 10 folks at practice tonight.... last year maybe 55 for same practice. Was it b/c of the 8th grade game or lack of enthusiasm?

I think the town is doing a poor job of marketing this game! We should have signs similar to election signs stating time and date of game up and be sure local paper has a real spread about th where and when. The booster website should open to a full splash page about the playoff game...

I will volunteer to help if someone in a leadership position on CISD staff, Booster Club, Council, etc points in the direction.

I heard a paent asking what is going on w lack of support. Maybe just the Dawson/Carroll game.. and tomorrow will be normal.

PM if you don't know where and when practice is tomorrow and Ill respond if you are a DRAGON! '-)

maybe also volleyball?

[DrEdward]

There were only about 10 folks at practice tonight.... last year maybe 55 for same practice. Was it b/c of the 8th grade game or lack of enthusiasm?

I think the town is doing a poor job of marketing this game! We should have signs similar to election signs stating time and date of game up and be sure local paper has a real spread about th where and when. The booster website should open to a full splash page about the playoff game...

I will volunteer to help if someone in a leadership position on CISD staff, Booster Club, Council, etc points in the direction.

I heard a paent asking what is going on w lack of support. Maybe just the Dawson/Carroll game.. and tomorrow will be normal.

PM if you don't know where and when practice is tomorrow and Ill respond if you are a DRAGON! '-)

I typically attend the Carroll practices, but I had to be at the Stadium this afternoon starting at 4:30pm for the 8th grade games between Dawson and Carroll Middle. In addition to those games this evening, the basketball team was playing this evening in a scrimmage. Also the girls were playing their third round match against an excellent Marcus team. So I wouldn't read too much into any lack of attendance at the football practice this afternoon.

[DrEdward]

For those interested, the games at Dragon Stadium this afternoon and evening turned out to be defensive-oriented, despite some impressive offenses. Each time a team got near the goal, the defenses tended to come up big.

In the C team game, it was CMS over DMS, 6-0.
In the B team game, it was CMS over DMS, 12-0.
In the A team game, it was a tie between DMS and CMS, 13-13.

[DrEdward]

The Carroll girls put up a great fight against Marcus, a top ranked team in Texas, but regretably came up short in a five game match. After falling behind 2-0, Carroll girls came back to take the next two games, forcing the match to a final game. Marcus eeked out the win in the final by the narrowest of margins, 15-13. :( Bummer.

But we should all applaud these girls for an absolutely fantastic season this year. :notworthy

[slcdragonfan]

The Carroll girls put up a great fight against Marcus, a top ranked team in Texas, but regretably came up short in a five game match. After falling behind 2-0, Carroll girls came back to take the next two games, forcing the match to a final game. Marcus eeked out the win in the final by the narrowest of margins, 15-13. :( Bummer.

But we should all applaud these girls for an absolutely fantastic season this year. :notworthy

Dang Marcus!

Congrats girls....:notworthy

[Sakatha]

For those interested, the games at Dragon Stadium this afternoon and evening turned out to be defensive-oriented, despite some impressive offenses. Each time a team got near the goal, the defenses tended to come up big.

In the C team game, it was CMS over DMS, 6-0.
In the B team game, it was CMS over DMS, 12-0.
In the A team game, it was a tie between DMS and CMS, 13-13.

For those of you unable to attend, you missed seeing some future stars... The youngest Agnew is a pretty special athlete, and Parker Fentriss is a future bonafide stud.

It's unfortunate that CMS's Hunter Summy was unable to play last night. He's a special QB.

~DnM

[SLCbacker]

For those of you unable to attend, you missed seeing some future stars... The youngest Agnew is a pretty special athlete, and Parker Fentriss is a future bonafide stud.

It's unfortunate that CMS's Hunter Summy was unable to play last night. He's a special QB.

~DnM

You guys beat me to it! Very fun watching these 8th graders play. In addition to Agnew and Fentriss, there were names like Newton, Anderson, Avers, Buford, Powell, and many new names. This group will be fun to watch!

The Dragon future looks bright, starting with a win on Friday against FM!

[huntm]

Send a Pm to KT2000 and tell him what you want to change it to. That way you will still have your posts just a different screen name.

Thank you. I will do this today if I can navigate the PM thing. Sorry the screen name is offensive. It's my first name and my other hobby. My email is huntmike . I guess I should have used that one huh.

[JagFan]

Thank you. I will do this today if I can navigate the PM thing. Sorry the screen name is offensive. It's my first name and my other hobby. My email is huntmike . I guess I should have used that one huh.

I never looked at the name like that until it was pointed out. I am the naive one on the board. LOL I was just answering your question. :)

[huntm]

Hi guys,

This is Mike H. I apologize for the previous screen name. I used my first name and my other hobby and never thought about the sophomore interpretation. That was a long time ago and I guess I forgot that one.

Anyhow, I hope you absolutely love my new screen name. If I can figure out how to do a profile picture, I'll have a nice one up by this weekend.

Thanks for all the supportive PM's and GO DRAGONS!!!!!

[SLC13]

Hi guys,

This is Mike H. I apologize for the previous screen name. I used my first name and my other hobby and never thought about the sophomore interpretation. That was a long time ago and I guess I forgot that one.

Anyhow, I hope you absolutely love my new screen name. If I can figure out how to do a profile picture, I'll have a nice one up by this weekend.

Thanks for all the supportive PM's and GO DRAGONS!!!!!

Now we have dueling TOONmen........this should be fun. :eek:

[crunked9]

"I am a friend of HW as well as many, many coaches across Texas and the nation.
Yes, I was here for state championships and I have a few rings of my own."

Why are we listening to someone that lies about their own credentials?

First, if your so called beloved HW is truly your friend why hasn't he got your son a scholarship yet or if you are friends with so many Texas and national coaches like you say I repeat the same question?

Number 2, you have never played football and I didn't know they have rings for rec center sports. Wow!!

By the way, you are very similar to the used car salesman you are referring to. A SELFISH PARENT, ONLY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT HW DOES FOR YOUR SON (or lack there of)!!

This is about the community of Southlake and what is good for all the kids!!

GO DRAGONS FOREVER!!!

Go do good kids, beat FM, we are trying to get you some justice!!

We want a coach that is for the kids not one that has to cheat OR make the kids feel like they are inferior to other teams when they lose as an excuse for the parents. Ask the players who they would you rather have HW or TD? We know what the answer would be hands down. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE PARENTS AND THEIR POLITICS!! TD has done 10x more for our young men and this community than HW has even done where ever he has been. Mike Hunt you want a solution to everything, the answer is TD!!

TDreturns2SLC,

How do you know that TD will be better? Did you play for him at SLC? or have a son play for him at SLC?

Or are you just speculating that everything was always just 100% peachy in the locker room when he was there?

I am just trying to understand where your opinions come from...

[kjones003]

May the skies open friday night!!! Let it pour down!!!!!!!!!!

[dragonpants]

May the skies open friday night!!! Let it pour down!!!!!!!!!!

No we can beat them in 80 degree weather with no wind, let's not give them any excuses. I do not care if they score 70 on us(as long as we score 71).

Bring your stadium chairs this one could take a while, if it is a short game would be a bad sign, would mean they are completing too many passes and we are not controlling the ball.

Either way, Dragons win.

[JagFan]

May the skies open friday night!!! Let it pour down!!!!!!!!!!

Ok. ;) It would make it interesting.

[JagFan]

No we can beat them in 80 degree weather with no wind, let's not give them any excuses. I do not care if they score 70 on us(as long as we score 71).

Bring your stadium chairs this one could take a while, if it is a short game would be a bad sign, would mean they are completing too many passes and we are not controlling the ball.

Either way, Dragons win.

You will hear no excuses from me either way.

[slcdragonfan]

You will hear no excuses from me either way.

We are all preparing ours it appears.:rofl:

[SLC93]

For those interested, the games at Dragon Stadium this afternoon and evening turned out to be defensive-oriented, despite some impressive offenses. Each time a team got near the goal, the defenses tended to come up big.

In the C team game, it was CMS over DMS, 6-0.
In the B team game, it was CMS over DMS, 12-0.
In the A team game, it was a tie between DMS and CMS, 13-13.

Thanks for the update, Doc. Those look like hard fought, rivalry scores!

[SLC93]

The Carroll girls put up a great fight against Marcus, a top ranked team in Texas, but regretably came up short in a five game match. After falling behind 2-0, Carroll girls came back to take the next two games, forcing the match to a final game. Marcus eeked out the win in the final by the narrowest of margins, 15-13. :( Bummer.

But we should all applaud these girls for an absolutely fantastic season this year. :notworthy

No shame in losing when you've given your all. Congrats to the ladies.

[JagFan]

We are all preparing ours it appears.:rofl:

No I don't think you are at least the ones I know and hope not anyways.

I give Carroll the edge on Defense (a big one) and the mental edge. We have to first and foremost get the 1. It is playoffs can we win a game and 2. We play Carroll and we have never beaten them out of our heads. Then we can focus on the game.

I give us the edge on offense and special teams. How all of this plays out or develops on the field will be determined on the field.

Can we win yes, will we ???

Can you win- yes will you ???

[SLC93]

You guys beat me to it! Very fun watching these 8th graders play. In addition to Agnew and Fentriss, there were names like Newton, Anderson, Avers, Buford, Powell, and many new names. This group will be fun to watch!

The Dragon future looks bright, starting with a win on Friday against FM!

Big steps those boys are following in. Make your own history and never lose your personal passion, kids.

[SLC93]

Hi guys,

This is Mike H. I apologize for the previous screen name. I used my first name and my other hobby and never thought about the sophomore interpretation. That was a long time ago and I guess I forgot that one.

Anyhow, I hope you absolutely love my new screen name. If I can figure out how to do a profile picture, I'll have a nice one up by this weekend.

Thanks for all the supportive PM's and GO DRAGONS!!!!!

I'd say your responses to the requests and promptness with the change shows nothing was meant by it. No worries.

[toonman]

Now we have dueling TOONmen........this should be fun. :eek:

I am pleased to say that going forward there will be only one "Toonman".

May I take this opportunity to thank "huntm" for not taking a derivative of my Screen Name. There is a very special meaning (to me) behind my Screen Name, known by those who know me.

[huntm]

I am pleased to say that going forward there will be only one "Toonman".

May I take this opportunity to thank "huntm" for not taking a derivative of my Screen Name. There is a very special meaning (to me) behind my Screen Name, known by those who know me.

I basked in the glory of Toonmans shadow for only a minute. However, the minute felt like an eternity. Cooler heads (board moderator) prevailed. I was trying to get the hits up on the site :)

May the friendly debate continue.

[DragginDad11n14]

I basked in the glory of Toonmans shadow for only a minute. However, the minute felt like an eternity. Cooler heads (board moderator) prevailed. I was trying to get the hits up on the site :)

May the friendly debate continue.

Jackwaggoner was taken? ;)

[huntm]

Jackwaggoner was taken? ;)

No I reserve Jackwagon, idiot, and overzealous parent who thinks their child is all world for only my closest friends.

[dragonbuck]

Hi guys,

This is Mike H. I apologize for the previous screen name. I used my first name and my other hobby and never thought about the sophomore interpretation. That was a long time ago and I guess I forgot that one.

Anyhow, I hope you absolutely love my new screen name. If I can figure out how to do a profile picture, I'll have a nice one up by this weekend.

Thanks for all the supportive PM's and GO DRAGONS!!!!!

thanks for making the effort and fixing it without any pushback. Much better:D

[dragons08]

I find it funny how I never even noticed the innuendo in the name, I asked if he was a former principal at CMS. I guess I'm maturing or something. :Censor:

[huntm]

I used to enjoy this forum stuff but this thread is beyond stupid now and a waste of everybody's time. The negative opinions of a few sound ferocious.

All this stuff starts in Pee Wee football and other rec leagues as parents start believing their kid is the next Peyton Manning and it just gets escalated when they begin playing in the school programs. When a real professional coach (as opposed to a Pee Wee football coach or dad) has a logical unbiased evaluation of a player the parent gets upset if their kid isn't a Daxx Garmin, a Paul Stevenson or a Kenny Hill. The kid makes some bad choices or has had some bad parenting, the kid doesn't get to play, or doesn't get to play in a position he wants to play, so he just quits. The parents get pissed because Johnny is upset, has hurt feelings or his chance for a scholarship goes up in smoke. And instead of accepting that maybe this is just life or the coaches are right, they vent by blaming others, primarily the coaches. They do more harm to their kids by telling their kids they got shafted by the school and the coaches
instead of teaching them a life lesson and helping them grow from their setback. The kids are told they have been victimized!

I know my son is above all this stuff. He recognizes some parents are screwed up. He knows some kids make bad choices or are not the best teammates. It has no impact on his game face or his ability on the field

SLC has a no cut football team which I support. A lot of kids get great pride of putting on the uniform even though they know they won't step onto the field on Friday night. They all make contributions during practice and the game

These coaches are better men than I. They work hard for the pay they receive. They need to be tough to tune out the garbage that some parents throw out. They do it because they love the game and they love the kids.

This years team (players, coaches, trainers and assistants) are a little like our Vietnam Vets who came home from an unpopular war and were not thanked by many. Our Vietnam Vets were warriors who did their best. This years team (including the coaches) need to be thanked for fighting through all the crap that some screwed up parents and so called Dragon faithful have
created.

:notworthy

[DrEdward]

I just assumed he was a fan of Porky's. :rolleyes::D

[huntm]

"I am a friend of HW as well as many, many coaches across Texas and the nation.
Yes, I was here for state championships and I have a few rings of my own."

Why are we listening to someone that lies about their own credentials?

First, if your so called beloved HW is truly your friend why hasn't he got your son a scholarship yet or if you are friends with so many Texas and national coaches like you say I repeat the same question?

Number 2, you have never played football and I didn't know they have rings for rec center sports. Wow!!

By the way, you are very similar to the used car salesman you are referring to. A SELFISH PARENT, ONLY WORRIED ABOUT
WHAT HW DOES FOR YOUR SON (or lack there of)!!

This is about the community of Southlake and what is good for all the kids!!

GO DRAGONS FOREVER!!!

Go do good kids, beat FM, we are trying to get you some justice!!

We want a coach that is for the kids not one that has to cheat OR make the kids feel like they are inferior to other teams when they lose as an excuse for the parents. Ask the players who they would you rather have HW or TD? We know what the answer would be hands down. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE PARENTS AND THEIR POLITICS!! TD has done 10x more for our young men and this community than HW has even done where ever he has been. Mike Hunt you want a solution to everything, the answer is
TD!!


Sir, my son has never played for HW and he is probably too old now for a scholarship. Not sure who you think I am?

Oh by the way, I respect Coach Dodge very, very much. However, HE'S NOT COMING BACK TO SLC. Sorry to burst your bubble. Get over it.

[huntm]

I just assumed he was a fan of Porky's. :rolleyes::D


Great movie. Where's Coach Ballbreaker when we need her?

[hollywood]

I just assumed he was a fan of Porky's. :rolleyes::D


:rofl:

Go Angel Beach!!

[slcdragonfan]

I find it funny how I never even noticed the innuendo in the name, I asked if he was a former principal at CMS. I guess I'm maturing or something. :Censor:

I didn't get it either. I guess I am naive. :Censor:;)

[dragons08]

I didn't get it either. I guess I am naive. :Censor:;)

We are just overly mature. This causes for celebration. Margs in December? I vote yes.

[slcdragonfan]

We are just overly mature. This causes for celebration. Margs in December? I vote yes.

Absolutely Mr. Texas Tech Dragon. are you past the 21 threshold now?

[dragons08]

Absolutely Mr. Texas Tech Dragon. are you past the 21 threshold now?

T-minus 17 days.

[CCCSportsFan]

We are just overly mature. This causes for celebration. Margs in December? I vote yes.

I'm in :D

[slcdragonfan]

I'm in :D

Knew it. Mebbe Dragon88 too?

[DrEdward]

I'm in :D

Moi aussi.

[huntm]

God bless all veterans who fought to allow us to play the great game of football and to have the freedom to get on the Internet and write our opinions. I don't think 5ATexasFootball is available in China........Thank a veteran.

[beauxman]

God bless all veterans who fought to allow us to play the great game of football and to have the freedom to get on the Internet and write our opinions. I don't think 5ATexasFootball is available in China........Thank a veteran.

Your welcome. Oh yeah, no one thanked me yet! :D

[dragonpants]

I just assumed he was a fan of Porky's. :rolleyes::D

Me too and was not offended at all, I am a bit immature admittedly but I still laugh my butt every time I hear it, as a matter of fact anytime I hear anyone with the last name of Hunt I laugh inside, what can I say. I am what I am.

[SLCbacker]

Man it's quiet on here today...Glad tomorrow is game day!

I heard today that next weeks games will be played at Jerry World. If all the stars align, we would see a Carroll vs. Heritage match up in the 2nd game (2pm) of a 4 game ticket. The first game (11am) could be an interesting match up...CHill vs. Guyer.

None of this means a thing if we don't take care of business tomorrow night against a tough and hungry FM team.

I believe the blondes in black pants will rise to the occasion! Go Dragons!!!:heli:

[kjones003]

I agree. It was great at practice last night seeing them working out with said blonde and black representing! Last night may have been the annual peak of perfect weather!

See you folks over near the speedway tomorrow... we'll see if the rain has passed or its wet. Either way... I am ready and much more importantly could tell the players are as well.

[dragons08]

I agree. It was great at practice last night seeing them working out with said blonde and black representing! Last night may have been the annual peak of perfect weather!

See you folks over near the speedway tomorrow... we'll see if the rain has passed or its wet. Either way... I am ready and much more importantly could tell the players are as well.

The rain blew through west texas without any sighting of rain, thus you all will probably get the storm out in the DFW. Apparently another front coming through tonight on the plains. Ya'll probably won't get that til Saturday though.

[huntm]

Man it's quiet on here today...Glad tomorrow is game day!

I heard today that next weeks games will be played at Jerry World. If all the stars align, we would see a Carroll vs. Heritage match up in the 2nd game (2pm) of a 4 game ticket. The first game (11am) could be an interesting match up...CHill vs. Guyer.

None of this means a thing if we don't take care of business tomorrow night against a tough and hungry FM team.

I believe the blondes in black pants will rise to the occasion! Go Dragons!!!:heli:

I didn't think round two had been set yet. Was this in the Dallas morning news? The 11:00 game was in the paper but it didn't say anything about other games.

[kjones003]

Cool idea to pull the community together for rd I.... wish we were doing this. Was awesome last year at Cowboys Stadium lot...

GO DRAGONS...
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Community Tailgate info from FM website...


5A Division II Bi-District Play-offs: Flower Mound Jaguars vs Southlake Carroll Dragons

Friday, November 12 at Northwest ISD Stadium. Jags will be on the visitors side. Kickoff is 7:30 pm
Click here for directions. For stadium information, click here.

Please arrive early and be loud!!!

TailGate

The Flower Mound High School Booster Club will be hosting a Tailgate pregame party. We will serve from 6:00 to 6:30 in the Visitors parking lot at Justin Northwest stadium. This activity is to support the students who participate in all Friday night activities. The menu will consist of Beef and chicken fajitas with all the fixings (Donation jar). Come out and show your support by starting you’re your evening with the pregame tailgate. Have some fun getting to know the other families that make up the Flower Mound Jaguar family. Eat with us or bring your own, just be there.

[DrEdward]

I didn't think round two had been set yet. Was this in the Dallas morning news? The 11:00 game was in the paper but it didn't say anything about other games.

Assuming Carroll gets by tomorrow evening, we will play in Cowboy Stadium next Saturday afternoon is my understanding.

[slcdragonfan]

Marcus a tough out, would have been a real challenge. Guyer escaped.
Jaguars are the real deal, they will stretch us all over the field. They have yet to win a playoff game and that hump as well as defeating the Dragons after the loss last year has to be in their mind.

It is now time for the kids to have fun, pull out the stops, and play like there is no tomorrow. I think a lot about the Katy 30 Draw play. It is not just that it works, but also that the kids love it, and love how it fools the other team. I saw Coach Joseph use it when he was coaching in the N/S game last year, and all the kids on the sidelines were laughing and loose.

It has gotten mighty serious in these parts, with a lot of talk about a lot of things. I hope our staff can get these kids to relax and have fun, it would be great if we had a play like that. This is possibly the last game for many of them. If they are able to enjoy it and still deliver, they might get 1 more. And then perhaps 1 more. and so on.

Let's use a 24 hour rule tomorrow how about? Win or lose, we honor the team and the players.

[huntm]

Don't forget that cross country will be running for a state championship tomorrow. :heli:

[Southlakehawk]

Assuming Carroll gets by tomorrow evening, we will play in Cowboy Stadium next Saturday afternoon is my understanding.

Per the Dallas Morning News--If the Dragons beat Flower Mound, they get the second game at the Boss Hogg Bowl:

11 a.m.: Cedar Hill-Hurst L.D. Bell winner vs. Denton Guyer-Flower Mound Marcus winner
2 p.m.: Colleyville Heritage-Mansfield winner vs. Flower Mound-Southlake Carroll winner
5 p.m.: Allen-Justin Northwest winner vs. Euless Trinity-South Grand Prairie winner
8 p.m.: Duncanville-Irving Nimitz winner vs. Coppell-Plano winner

[Steve Butler]

Just got Nate's high light video done

check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveOYAzEoi4

[dragonpants]

Just got Nate's high light video done

check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LveOYAzEoi4

Awesome, I love to watch O line play, miss a lot of plays watching games because I am watching them.
Some college is going to be very lucky to have him on their team.

[toonman]

Marcus a tough out, would have been a real challenge. Guyer escaped.
Jaguars are the real deal, they will stretch us all over the field. They have yet to win a playoff game and that hump as well as defeating the Dragons after the loss last year has to be in their mind.

It is now time for the kids to have fun, pull out the stops, and play like there is no tomorrow. I think a lot about the Katy 30 Draw play. It is not just that it works, but also that the kids love it, and love how it fools the other team. I saw Coach Joseph use it when he was coaching in the N/S game last year, and all the kids on the sidelines were laughing and loose.

It has gotten mighty serious in these parts, with a lot of talk about a lot of things. I hope our staff can get these kids to relax and have fun, it would be great if we had a play like that. This is possibly the last game for many of them. If they are able to enjoy it and still deliver, they might get 1 more. And then perhaps 1 more. and so on.

Let's use a 24 hour rule tomorrow how about? Win or lose, we honor the team and the players.

I agree and I intend to savor every minute of today's game as this could well be our last Dragon game of 2010. If it is then I have 2011 to look forward to and if not then I have next week game to look forward to. Enjoy the moment; as I cannot believe that 10 games have gone already.

[DragonFan0316]

We sit on Home side tonight?

[DrEdward]

We sit on Home side tonight?

Correct.

[SLCbacker]

We sit on Home side tonight?

Yes.

[GoDragons]

So excited for tonight! Let's Go DRAGONS!!!

I am not ready for our season to end.....let's get it done tonight!

Pep Rally was fun at Sr. High today! Blonde (some orange) hair looked great! :yes:

Dragons 38
Flower Mound 24

[worster70]

Great win SLC !

[drgnbkr]

Great win SLC !

Not yet:D

[JagFan]

Good win Carroll. Enjoyed meeting a couple of you. Good luck the rest of the way. :)

[DragonFan0316]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: yes::yes:

[dragonbuck]

other than finishing the first half with a timeout left (settling for only 3 due to slow play calling), and maybe a few too many QB draws late in the game, I thought the Dragon gameplan and play calling was a 9 out of 10. Kept the powerful Jag offense off the field. Kudos to the coaching and especially the O-line.:notworthy

D......you were spectacular tonight. Fans....loud and proud with a great turnout.
Way to rally Dragon Nation,:heli::heli::heli:

[huntm]

Where are you haters?? 643 yards offense. Good night.

[dragnmom]

other than finishing the first half with a timeout left (settling for only 3 due to slow play calling), and maybe a few too many QB draws late in the game, I thought the Dragon gameplan and play calling was a 9 out of 10. Kept the powerful Jag offense off the field. Kudos to the coaching and especially the O-line.

D......you were spectacular tonight. Fans....loud and proud with a great turnout.
Way to rally Dragon Nation

The Blondies totally ROCKED!!!!

Great game guys - This is fun-Let's do it again! :notworthy :yes::notworthy :yes::notworthy

[kjones003]

DRAGONS,

Our D played with just amazing HEART!!!!! Offense was amazing as well. This was a spectacularly satisfying win. Man... I am so excited I cant even think about going to sleep!!!!! I barely drug my son off the field after they turned off the lights...

[slcdragonfan]

Where are you haters?? 643 yards offense. Good night.

huntm, while I understand your point, I would ask that we enjoy the win and use the 24 hour rule to support each other and be a united fanbase. This was a great game in every aspect and the coaches, players, fans, band, drill, everyone should be proud.

No negatives tonight how about? We are all Dragon brethren right now.

[GoDragons]

huntm, while I understand your point, I would ask that we enjoy the win and use the 24 hour rule to support each other and be a united fanbase. This was a great game in every aspect and the coaches, players, fans, band, drill, everyone should be proud.

No negatives tonight how about? We are all Dragon brethren right now.

YES!!! So proud of them....don't forget the "Cheerleaders" too! :yes:

[gasman]

Great win Dragons!! Good game plan by the coaching staff. Let's take it to the next round and beat Colleyville Heritage.

[dragonpants]

Where are you haters?? 643 yards offense. Good night.

Way to keep it classy jackwagon.
Great job by the Dragons and the coaching staff tonight. I was a little concerned running Kenny a lot when the game was at hand but no harm no foul. I really wanted to see Randy Williams get a touchdown and screamed for a timeout at the end, I know I know I just wanted him to score, had no intention of being a poor winner.

When are we going to get together and talk x's and o's, I look forward to learning some new things, PM me when you want to get together.

Had a blast last night hanging with the Observer, Beauxman, slcdragonfan, my main man SLCbacker, chattin it up with Steve Butler, Dr. Ed and the Gas family.

Great time at Copelands after. I look forward to a big celebration again next week. Unfortunately my buddy Pantherfan and I will be on opposite sides this week but we have gotten through it before.

Great job kids we love you so much.

[dragonpants]

Joke of the night was Gasman and I as coaches for the Dragons. If anyone heard it we in no way shape or form think we are qualified nor do we want the job but the visual was hilarious. I am still laughing about it Gas as is Mrs. Pants.

[dragonbuck]

though I take pride in the fact that we don't run up the score when the game is in hand, and that is the right thing to do.......it sure would have been nice to see Randy Williams score a TD at the end (or any time). He exemplifies TEAMme:yes:

[dragonbuck]

Another thought: Driving home last night, they said that Kenny Hill is only 15 years old......he is a baby playing amongst many 17/18 year olds and some are probably 19. Incredible. He will be built like Vince Young in a few years. 15, think about that and how he handled it all. WOW, just WOW. 15 of 17 and like 150 rushing. Huge upside, Huge. Will be fun for a few more years, that's for sure, then look at what's behind him. I like it. time to renew my seating license again.

[slcdragonfan]

Another thought: Driving home last night, they said that Kenny Hill is only 15 years old......he is a baby playing amongst many 17/18 year olds and some are probably 19. Incredible. He will be built like Vince Young in a few years. 15, think about that and how he handled it all. WOW, just WOW. 15 of 17 and like 150 rushing. Huge upside, Huge. Will be fun for a few more years, that's for sure, then look at what's behind him. I like it. time to renew my seating license again.

dang. Just when I thought I might be able to get 4 nice season tix! ;)

[chhspantherfan]

Way to keep it classy jackwagon.
Great job by the Dragons and the coaching staff tonight. I was a little concerned running Kenny a lot when the game was at hand but no harm no foul. I really wanted to see Randy Williams get a touchdown and screamed for a timeout at the end, I know I know I just wanted him to score, had no intention of being a poor winner.

When are we going to get together and talk x's and o's, I look forward to learning some new things, PM me when you want to get together.

Had a blast last night hanging with the Observer, Beauxman, slcdragonfan, my main man SLCbacker, chattin it up with Steve Butler, Dr. Ed and the Gas family.

Great time at Copelands after. I look forward to a big celebration again next week. Unfortunately my buddy Pantherfan and I will be on opposite sides this week but we have gotten through it before.

Great job kids we love you so much.

sorry I missed the festivities, look forward to a fun week.

[CCCSportsFan]

Joke of the night was Gasman and I as coaches for the Dragons. If anyone heard it we in no way shape or form think we are qualified nor do we want the job but the visual was hilarious. I am still laughing about it Gas as is Mrs. Pants.

Mrs. CCCS observed last night that you and your friends were very well behaved and not in the need of a chaperone :D

[TXFOOSBALL]

Beat me to it. I was gonna answer for you.:D

i thought it was 4th and 3:confused:

[SLC93]

i thought it was 4th and 3:confused:

Very well could have been. I was just referring to the sequence of events that played out as a result of the way that game ended.

[TXFOOSBALL]

Very well could have been. I was just referring to the sequence of events that played out as a result of the way that game ended.

ok I was on the sideline that day and I was just making sure that at age 27 my memory wasnt gone already.

[SLC93]

Outstanding work last night, kids! We listened to the game. Amazing execution of the most obvious game plan. The Dragons simply took the opponent's weakness and beat them to death with it. For a moment I was envisioning multibones and Lineweavers!:D

Since the game is indoors next week and the boy is almost 2 now, the wife and I are thinking it's time to get him to his first game.

[SLCbacker]

Great game Dragons! I am so happy for this group of young men. You guys deserved this playoff win! Excellent game plan team by Hal, and coaching staff, to defeat a very explosive yet one-dimensional FM team. Near perfect execution by the TEAM. Enjoyed watching the O-line man handle the FM defense. Enjoy this win today, and get to work on Heritage. I would love to see this group practicing on Thanksgiving!

Great seeing everyone last night. Special recognition to our honorary Dragon fans from Katy and Coppell in attendance last night, Homeofchampions06 and Beauxman. Good luck with your games today!:heli::heli::heli:

What an incredible line-up we have at Cowboy Stadium next week! Get your neighbors out to support this team next week!

[dragons08]

Good win Carroll. Enjoyed meeting a couple of you. Good luck the rest of the way. :)

Thank you for the score updates. ;)

[dragons08]

Mrs. CCCS observed last night that you and your friends were very well behaved and not in the need of a chaperone :D

For some reason I think pants payed you to say that...:rofl:

[dragons08]

Another thought: Driving home last night, they said that Kenny Hill is only 15 years old......he is a baby playing amongst many 17/18 year olds and some are probably 19. Incredible. He will be built like Vince Young in a few years. 15, think about that and how he handled it all. WOW, just WOW. 15 of 17 and like 150 rushing. Huge upside, Huge. Will be fun for a few more years, that's for sure, then look at what's behind him. I like it. time to renew my seating license again.

I've known the Hill family since we've moved to Southlake 8 years ago. Not only is Kenny an athletic specimen, he is very respectful kid too. It's great seeing him succeed.

If any of ya'll have seen his dad or know his dad, he is a tall guy, Kenny is still growing and I wouldn't be surprised if he was near his dad's height. He'll def continue to grow and get better. It's going to be scary for teams lining up on the other side of the LOS his senior year. Yikes.

[JagFan]

Thank you for the score updates. ;)

You are welcome and again I am sorry about not getting them to you until half and then the final.

[DrEdward]

I have to say that I loved the sight on the field at halftime last night. Aside from the band's performance, which I still maintain is their most crowd engaging performance (taking nothing away from their show this season,) it was just so much fun to watch the band, the Belles, the baby Belles, Crew, cheerleaders all out on the field at the same time!! Whatever we may do with the budget issues facing Carroll (and other districts), we have to be sure to keep the funding going for these efforts, even if it comes down to all of us writing additional checks to the district. Sorry for the little editorial at the end. But it was great watching them all out there at once.

Oh yeah, the game was pretty entertaining as well. :D

[dragons08]

You are welcome and again I am sorry about not getting them to you until half and then the final.

It is alright, my good friend Farmer took care of me. At least Tech basketball started off the season with a dubya for you.

I'm sure a Tech win today will ease the pain of last night. :yes:

[DrEdward]

Carroll girls finish third in the state cross-country meet in Round Rock this morning.

Boys are running now.

[Bellaboosmommy]

Carroll girls finish third in the state cross-country meet in Round Rock this morning.

Boys are running now.

Looks like boys got 2nd!!!!

[CCCSportsFan]

Looks like boys got 2nd!!!!

That is awesome news for the boys and girls teams! Both now are set up for a good chance to advance to the Nike National meet :)

[SLCbacker]

NEWS ALERT: the price of all homes listed in Southlake saw a 10% price increase this morning, following a decisive win by the Dragon football team. Local realtor, Roxanne Taylor, is so optimistic about a deep playoff run and the upswing in the local real estate market as a result of the Dragons success, she has purchased the backs of players jerseys to display a portrait of herself the remainder of the football season!:D

[dragons08]

NEWS ALERT: the price of all homes listed in Southlake saw a 10% price increase this morning, following a decisive win by the Dragon football team. Local realtor, Roxanne Taylor, is so optimistic about a deep playoff run and the upswing in the local real estate market as a result of the Dragons success, she has purchased the backs of players jerseys to display a portrait of herself the remainder of the football season!:D

Dodge must be back then per some people's logic....

[JagFan]

It is alright, my good friend Farmer took care of me. At least Tech basketball started off the season with a dubya for you.

I'm sure a Tech win today will ease the pain of last night. :yes:

It will help but not much. ;)

[slcdragonfan]

NEWS ALERT: the price of all homes listed in Southlake saw a 10% price increase this morning, following a decisive win by the Dragon football team. Local realtor, Roxanne Taylor, is so optimistic about a deep playoff run and the upswing in the local real estate market as a result of the Dragons success, she has purchased the backs of players jerseys to display a portrait of herself the remainder of the football season!:D

:rofl:

[DrEdward]

:rofl:

Are you implying that he is wasn't being serious??? I am now depressed financially. :(

[Bellaboosmommy]

NEWS ALERT: the price of all homes listed in Southlake saw a 10% price increase this morning, following a decisive win by the Dragon football team. Local realtor, Roxanne Taylor, is so optimistic about a deep playoff run and the upswing in the local real estate market as a result of the Dragons success, she has purchased the backs of players jerseys to display a portrait of herself the remainder of the football season!:D

That's funny right there, I don't care who you are....

WOW :)

[TheBigPeach]

might be at the SLC game next weekend, anyone tailgating?? :notworthy

[dragnmom]

I have to say that I loved the sight on the field at halftime last night. Aside from the band's performance, which I still maintain is their most crowd engaging performance (taking nothing away from their show this season,) it was just so much fun to watch the band, the Belles, the baby Belles, Crew, cheerleaders all out on the field at the same time!! Whatever we may do with the budget issues facing Carroll (and other districts), we have to be sure to keep the funding going for these efforts, even if it comes down to all of us writing additional checks to the district. Sorry for the little editorial at the end. But it was great watching them all out there at once.

Oh yeah, the game was pretty entertaining as well. :D

Doc - The parents of the band, belles, cheer, crew etc are already shelling out $$$$ to make sure we have a strong program, as funding cuts are an unfortunate way of life right now. No doubt given current funding environment, this will be an ongoing issue, for Carroll and many other area highs. (As an example, I understand the props alone for the UIL show at another high school (not SLC) were > $30K..paid for by the parents). The Band Boosters, and other parent organizations are looking at other opportunities to maintain necessary funding for these programs.

The proof is in the half-time show - I LOVE seeing a football field full of kids doing the lawnmower, beating on trashcans etc. Great fun for hundreds of growing dragons!

[kjones003]

I did some research regarding Robin Hood and fundraising options relative to the local school budget and sent it to a couple of folks in CISD. The percentages are interesting and there are ways to raise funds that benefit the district heavily that I found. Anyway... not the right place I know but PM me if interested and Ill email you what I found. None of the extracurriculars at Carroll should be at risk... they are much too important to the well rounded students the district turns out... the Band, Belles, etc show was absolutely GREAT last night!!

p.s. funny re the Real Estate comment '-)

Doc - The parents of the band, belles, cheer, crew etc are already shelling out $$$$ to make sure we have a strong program, as funding cuts are an unfortunate way of life right now. No doubt given current funding environment, this will be an ongoing issue, for Carroll and many other area highs. (As an example, I understand the props alone for the UIL show at another high school (not SLC) were > $30K..paid for by the parents). The Band Boosters, and other parent organizations are looking at other opportunities to maintain necessary funding for these programs.

The proof is in the half-time show - I LOVE seeing a football field full of kids doing the lawnmower, beating on trashcans etc. Great fun for hundreds of growing dragons!

[DrEdward]

Doc - The parents of the band, belles, cheer, crew etc are already shelling out $$$$ to make sure we have a strong program, as funding cuts are an unfortunate way of life right now. No doubt given current funding environment, this will be an ongoing issue, for Carroll and many other area highs. (As an example, I understand the props alone for the UIL show at another high school (not SLC) were > $30K..paid for by the parents). The Band Boosters, and other parent organizations are looking at other opportunities to maintain necessary funding for these programs.

The proof is in the half-time show - I LOVE seeing a football field full of kids doing the lawnmower, beating on trashcans etc. Great fun for hundreds of growing dragons!

I know; other groups are doing so as well. Unfortunate, but I fear that even more will be required as other reductions are made of necessity, given the state funding mandate does not appear to be very high on the legislature's agenda. The district still must find an additional $2 million plus in expenditure reductions and/or revenue increases.

[dragonpants]

I know; other groups are doing so as well. Unfortunate, but I fear that even more will be required as other reductions are made of necessity, given the state funding mandate does not appear to be very high on the legislature's agenda. The district still must find an additional $2 million plus in expenditure reductions and/or revenue increases.

I know it is playoff time and this is not a great time to discuss finance and I will not beat my head against the wall about Robin Hood, that is an offseason topic.
I am no economist and for all I know we are already doing this.
Let's look at payroll companies business model. Ever wonder how they make so much money charging minimal fees? Short term very safe investments, mostly overnight loans to large brokerage houses. They have the luxury of holding onto to our medicare deductions as they only have to submit them quarterly. I do not know what our revenue stream or how district finances work or how much cash we have on hand but these companies are making hundreds of millions of dollars in overnight investments. I am not in the payroll business but have a number of them as clients. That is where they are making the bulk of their money. They get to hold onto federal and social security withdrawals for 48 hours before they submit to the IRS.
Again maybe this is being done or possibly may not be legal because we are a school district.
2 million dollars is not a huge sum of money to a district of our size and I am not saying due to our wealth base that we need to raise taxes only send more to Robin Hood especially in this economy but there has to be a logical way to raise additional funds that are not subject to Robin Hood. Does the district employ a granter writer? We have a very intelligent student base, is their research that we could be doing? Just thinking off the top of my head.
Dr. Ed is the financial wizard so I will sit back and wait for his response.

[kjones003]

My group is planning on a 'Pot Luck Dragon Brunch' tailgate. Well get there no later than 10am...

I hope that we have specific direction as to lots. Last year for the Allen game we got there so early that by the time Dragon fans started arriving our lot was not letting people in so we had a 30 person island.

I would love if we could get that lot the Boosters secured last year for the CH game...

Long story short you are more than welcome. Ill update specifics later in the week.

might be at the SLC game next weekend, anyone tailgating?? :notworthy

[DrEdward]

I know it is playoff time and this is not a great time to discuss finance and I will not beat my head against the wall about Robin Hood, that is an offseason topic.
I am no economist and for all I know we are already doing this.
Let's look at payroll companies business model. Ever wonder how they make so much money charging minimal fees? Short term very safe investments, mostly overnight loans to large brokerage houses. They have the luxury of holding onto to our medicare deductions as they only have to submit them quarterly. I do not know what our revenue stream or how district finances work or how much cash we have on hand but these companies are making hundreds of millions of dollars in overnight investments. I am not in the payroll business but have a number of them as clients. That is where they are making the bulk of their money. They get to hold onto federal and social security withdrawals for 48 hours before they submit to the IRS.
Again maybe this is being done or possibly may not be legal because we are a school district.
2 million dollars is not a huge sum of money to a district of our size and I am not saying due to our wealth base that we need to raise taxes only send more to Robin Hood especially in this economy but there has to be a logical way to raise additional funds that are not subject to Robin Hood. Does the district employ a granter writer? We have a very intelligent student base, is their research that we could be doing? Just thinking off the top of my head.
Dr. Ed is the financial wizard so I will sit back and wait for his response.

Hardly an expert; just try to keep up (sort of) with the very strange world of Texas school finance. You're right; this can wait until after the playoffs, but just briefly, Carroll has access to an additional $0.02 in tax money for operations and maintenance expenses that can be collected without shipping the additional funds collected off to Austin, never to be seen by us in the district again. That would generate approximately $1m additional for the district annually. It would require a taxpayer ratification vote, however. Any additional over and above the incremental $0.02 on the current tax rate would be required under state law to be shipped off to Austin at a marginal rate of about 50%!!!
Carroll gets very few dollars from the feds, although we do receive some. I believe the new schools currently under construction do benefit from some energy programs, but otherwise, for the most part, we are simply not eligible for most of these grants.
Carroll does engage in cash flow management and funds are invested, although state law does limit what can be done, as, of course, does prudent management of taxpayer funds. (We are not talking about federal/congressional style recklessness here with our money.)
There are ongoing efforts to come up with additional sources of funding not subject to Robin Hood, so any thoughts are always welcome.

[dragons08]

I know it is playoff time and this is not a great time to discuss finance and I will not beat my head against the wall about Robin Hood, that is an offseason topic.
I am no economist and for all I know we are already doing this.
Let's look at payroll companies business model. Ever wonder how they make so much money charging minimal fees? Short term very safe investments, mostly overnight loans to large brokerage houses. They have the luxury of holding onto to our medicare deductions as they only have to submit them quarterly. I do not know what our revenue stream or how district finances work or how much cash we have on hand but these companies are making hundreds of millions of dollars in overnight investments. I am not in the payroll business but have a number of them as clients. That is where they are making the bulk of their money. They get to hold onto federal and social security withdrawals for 48 hours before they submit to the IRS.
Again maybe this is being done or possibly may not be legal because we are a school district.
2 million dollars is not a huge sum of money to a district of our size and I am not saying due to our wealth base that we need to raise taxes only send more to Robin Hood especially in this economy but there has to be a logical way to raise additional funds that are not subject to Robin Hood. Does the district employ a granter writer? We have a very intelligent student base, is their research that we could be doing? Just thinking off the top of my head.
Dr. Ed is the financial wizard so I will sit back and wait for his response.

The problem with investing the money is, you could end up like Xerox State. Being as Boone Pickens runs the O$U athletic program from a financial standpoint, he wanted to control how his money was invested, which could be dangerous if you're donating it to a school. So they invested the money they were using to build all their new athletic structures, and when the economy tanked, so did the fund where he invested his money, leaving the school in debt and very short on money to pay for the buildings. Granted now, I'm sure he just wrote a check to cover that, but being a high school we don't have a luxury like that. So I'd be very scared of investing money like that for a public high school being as the risk to turn bottom up is very dangerous.

As far as your research kjones, I'd appreciate that pm from you. Granted I'm not in that field academically, but finance still interests me and I like reading stuff about that, especially economic stuff.

[dragons08]

It will help but not much. ;)

:mad: Did we even show up yesterday?

[SLCbacker]

might be at the SLC game next weekend, anyone tailgating?? :notworthy

With CHill and Guyer playing at 11, I won't be spending much time in the parking lot.

[huntm]

huntm, while I understand your point, I would ask that we enjoy the win and use the 24 hour rule to support each other and be a united fanbase. This was a great game in every aspect and the coaches, players, fans, band, drill, everyone should be proud.

No negatives tonight how about? We are all Dragon brethren right now.

Agreed. I like the tone of this thread since Friday night. It will be amazing what the team accomplishes when the boys and coaches know that the entire community supports them. The boys do read this thread and it's great to see everyones positive thoughts.

[Champion]

My group is planning on a 'Pot Luck Dragon Brunch' tailgate. Well get there no later than 10am...

I hope that we have specific direction as to lots. Last year for the Allen game we got there so early that by the time Dragon fans started arriving our lot was not letting people in so we had a 30 person island.

I would love if we could get that lot the Boosters secured last year for the CH game...

Long story short you are more than welcome. Ill update specifics later in the week.

All the finance talk is hurting my head.

Planning a send off and a tailgating area at the stadium are real important at this stage in the season and a lot of fun.

What if we could have hundreds of parents, fans and kids at the sendoff at the field house with everyone then jumping into their cars and then immediately getting into a caravan without going home and following the busses to the stadium, and then heading directly to the tailgating area. Even if you cannot get out to the stadium for the tailgating, please get out to the send off. That means a lot to the team, players, coaches and assistants.

I would guess the team might leave the field house around 10. The team will probably sit in the stadium watching the first game till around noon and then start their normal two hour pre-game routine. The caravan would arrive at the stadium around 10:30 or 10:45 and would allow at least a couple hours of tailgating. The Dragons would not likely even touch the field until around 1:00 at the earliest.

A tailgating set up crew could go earlier but I don't want to diminish a great send-off at the Sr. High. Now with a little bit more coordination, we might be able to get our busses to go right by our tailgating area at the stadium like last year. That was fun for those fans already at the tailgating area and great for the kids to see as well.

This is easy to coordinate. Fran Drescher could send out a blaster email to the team parents, the booster club and the school could do their parts to communicate beyond the player parent group.

Beyond helping or paying for a tailgating party, the easiest thing and most important thing everyone can do is get to the send-off on time, all packed and ready for some partying and a great Dragon playoff win.

You cannot always count on playing in the playoffs and certainly you cannot always count on playing in Cowboys Stadium. This is a great Dragon Tradition which if done right will be a memory for our kids as long as they live and it really helps pass that tradition onto to future Dragons who will one day want to play at Cowboys Stadium.

Plan ahead, get their early, and lets rumble!!!!!!!

[Champion]

With CHill and Guyer playing at 11, I won't be spending much time in the parking lot.

Two reasons to watch this game. Watch CHill beat Guyer and to watch the CHill half-time show.

Go to the send-off at the field house and then go to the CHill game. You have time to do both.

[drgnsbrth]

Good luck to my Dragons this next weekend. I wish the hubby and I could be there. We are always with you in spirit. On the road again for the 11th weekend. Lots of fun, but man am I tired.

[kjones003]

This sounds GREAT... if we can get a designated lot like last year... it is very easy to coordinate. Maybe it was lot J between Cowboys and Rangers stadiums and was packed w Dragon fans...

I agree on the send off as well!


All the finance talk is hurting my head.

Planning a send off and a tailgating area at the stadium are real important at this stage in the season and a lot of fun.

What if we could have hundreds of parents, fans and kids at the sendoff at the field house with everyone then jumping into their cars and then immediately getting into a caravan without going home and following the busses to the stadium, and then heading directly to the tailgating area. Even if you cannot get out to the stadium for the tailgating, please get out to the send off. That means a lot to the team, players, coaches and assistants.

I would guess the team might leave the field house around 10. The team will probably sit in the stadium watching the first game till around noon and then start their normal two hour pre-game routine. The caravan would arrive at the stadium around 10:30 or 10:45 and would allow at least a couple hours of tailgating. The Dragons would not likely even touch the field until around 1:00 at the earliest.

A tailgating set up crew could go earlier but I don't want to diminish a great send-off at the Sr. High. Now with a little bit more coordination, we might be able to get our busses to go right by our tailgating area at the stadium like last year. That was fun for those fans already at the tailgating area and great for the kids to see as well.

This is easy to coordinate. Fran Drescher could send out a blaster email to the team parents, the booster club and the school could do their parts to communicate beyond the player parent group.

Beyond helping or paying for a tailgating party, the easiest thing and most important thing everyone can do is get to the send-off on time, all packed and ready for some partying and a great Dragon playoff win.

You cannot always count on playing in the playoffs and certainly you cannot always count on playing in Cowboys Stadium. This is a great Dragon Tradition which if done right will be a memory for our kids as long as they live and it really helps pass that tradition onto to future Dragons who will one day want to play at Cowboys Stadium.

Plan ahead, get their early, and lets rumble!!!!!!!

[toonman]

Where are you haters?? 643 yards offense. Good night.

A very unusual post to make from someone who has stated that he is an experienced coach and knows many high school coaches personally. Such comments are more of someone considerably younger would post. This is The Carroll Thread; where most posts are by Dragon Fans, who by nature do not 'hate' the program. Then your sign off is very curt.

I understand that you have issues with posters you deem unqualified to make comments about the program - but to deem them 'haters' is an equally irrespective comment. I feel that you are now being equally extreme in your criticism of non-complaint posters.

I am sure that there is not a single a Dragon Fan who did not have great evening last Friday watching a very well coached team, execute a very creative game plan to perfection. I have given my accolades to Coach Wasson, the Coaching Staff and Players on a superb performance last Friday in another thread.

I cannot thank enough the coaches and players for giving us another Dragon game to watch this weekend.

[huntm]

A very unusual post to make from someone who has stated that he is an experienced coach and knows many high school coaches personally. Such comments are more of someone considerably younger would post. This is The Carroll Thread; where most posts are by Dragon Fans, who by nature do not 'hate' the program. Then your sign off is very curt.

I understand that you have issues with posters you deem unqualified to make comments about the program - but to deem them 'haters' is an equally irrespective comment. I feel that you are now being equally extreme in your criticism of non-complaint posters.

I am sure that there is not a single a Dragon Fan who did not have great evening last Friday watching a very well coached team, execute a very creative game plan to perfection. I have given my accolades to Coach Wasson, the Coaching Staff and Players on a superb performance last Friday in another thread.

I cannot thank enough the coaches and players for giving us another Dragon game to watch this weekend.


I just read your other post on the other thread. Very good post. No telling whatGO DRAGONS!

[huntm]

[QUOTE=toonman;1673356]A very unusual post to make from someone who has stated that he is an experienced coach and knows many high school coaches personally. Such comments are more of someone considerably younger would post. This is The Carroll Thread; where most posts are by Dragon Fans, who by nature do not 'hate' the program. Then your sign off is very curt.

I understand that you have issues with posters you deem unqualified to make comments about the program - but to deem them 'haters' is an equally irrespective comment. I feel that you are now being equally extreme in your criticism of non-complaint posters.

I am sure that there is not a single a Dragon Fan who did not have great evening last Friday watching a very well coached team, execute a very creative game plan to perfection. I have given my accolades to Coach Wasson, the Coaching Staff and Players on a superb performance last Friday in another thread.

I cannot thank enough the coaches and players for giving us another Dragon game to watch this weekend.[/QUOTE


I just read your other post on the other thread. Very good post. No telling
what this team is capable of with everyone behind them. GO Dragons!!!!!

[DrEdward]

With CHill and Guyer playing at 11, I won't be spending much time in the parking lot.

As I posted elsewhere. I do hope that the Stadium folks do not attempt to seat Guyer and Carroll fans on the same side, given the schedule and order of teams playing Saturday. Wouldn't necessarily anticipate trouble in the stands, but I am sure not going to be cheering for Guyer, even if they are in 7-5A.

[QQQ]

Little History...... The "send-off" is a MUST-DO activity for all players parents, siblings, grandparents. It occurs before each playoff game!!!! It is ESSENTIAL to get this word out via email, text, phone, bullhorn, smoke signals.... unless things have changed, its paragraph in the back of the Parents Handbook and required duty

Senior Parents, this is your final assignment and its one that gets the underclass parents in the correct frame of reference come playoff time.

So why is this so important you may ask.....

1, This is "tradition" worth savoring. It is a fact that your senior sons are nearing the end of their high school experience, and it is one of those moments where parents can make your own personal assessment of your son's commitment to their teammates and focus for excellence as a member of the Dragon football program. For those few seconds that they leave that locker room and get on the bus, you get to see it up close and personal.... and it is something you will not forget after your boy leaves for the next step in their young life. The most overwhelming fact..... is its probably one of the last opportunities you will see your high school senior in competitive athletics. Don't miss it just to get a few rows down in JerryWorld... there are 90,000 other good seats too.

Secondly.... love the "GO DRAGONS GO" signs alongs 1709 this time of year.... only there needs to be about 5 times the number this week. Not fussing.... only educating.... this is the uniqueness of CISD..... it sends a strong message to our neighbors who travel through our city that we are a unique community that supports our kids.

GO DRAGONS..... BEAT COLLEYVILLE HERITAGE

[kjones003]

Excellent post! I say the whole town,not just parents...

Little History...... The "send-off" is a MUST-DO activity for all players parents, siblings, grandparents. It occurs before each playoff game!!!! It is ESSENTIAL to get this word out via email, text, phone, bullhorn, smoke signals.... unless things have changed, its paragraph in the back of the Parents Handbook and required duty

Senior Parents, this is your final assignment and its one that gets the underclass parents in the correct frame of reference come playoff time.

So why is this so important you may ask.....

1, This is "tradition" worth savoring. It is a fact that your senior sons are nearing the end of their high school experience, and it is one of those moments where parents can make your own personal assessment of your son's commitment to their teammates and focus for excellence as a member of the Dragon football program. For those few seconds that they leave that locker room and get on the bus, you get to see it up close and personal.... and it is something you will not forget after your boy leaves for the next step in their young life. The most overwhelming fact..... is its probably one of the last opportunities you will see your high school senior in competitive athletics. Don't miss it just to get a few rows down in JerryWorld... there are 90,000 other good seats too.

Secondly.... love the "GO DRAGONS GO" signs alongs 1709 this time of year.... only there needs to be about 5 times the number this week. Not fussing.... only educating.... this is the uniqueness of CISD..... it sends a strong message to our neighbors who travel through our city that we are a unique community that supports our kids.

GO DRAGONS..... BEAT COLLEYVILLE HERITAGE

[slcdragonfan]

Excellent post! I say the whole town,not just parents...

I'll be at the stadium earlier than that....

But I will ask family and friends if they will go....

[SLCbacker]

Agreed. I like the tone of this thread since Friday night. It will be amazing what the team accomplishes when the boys and coaches know that the entire community supports them. The boys do read this thread and it's great to see everyones positive thoughts.

It's all because of you Jackwagon! You fixed the board. :notworthy :D

[Champion]

What more can you say....excellent!


Little History...... The "send-off" is a MUST-DO activity for all players parents, siblings, grandparents. It occurs before each playoff game!!!! It is ESSENTIAL to get this word out via email, text, phone, bullhorn, smoke signals.... unless things have changed, its paragraph in the back of the Parents Handbook and required duty

Senior Parents, this is your final assignment and its one that gets the underclass parents in the correct frame of reference come playoff time.

So why is this so important you may ask.....

1, This is "tradition" worth savoring. It is a fact that your senior sons are nearing the end of their high school experience, and it is one of those moments where parents can make your own personal assessment of your son's commitment to their teammates and focus for excellence as a member of the Dragon football program. For those few seconds that they leave that locker room and get on the bus, you get to see it up close and personal.... and it is something you will not forget after your boy leaves for the next step in their young life. The most overwhelming fact..... is its probably one of the last opportunities you will see your high school senior in competitive athletics. Don't miss it just to get a few rows down in JerryWorld... there are 90,000 other good seats too.

Secondly.... love the "GO DRAGONS GO" signs alongs 1709 this time of year.... only there needs to be about 5 times the number this week. Not fussing.... only educating.... this is the uniqueness of CISD..... it sends a strong message to our neighbors who travel through our city that we are a unique community that supports our kids.

GO DRAGONS..... BEAT COLLEYVILLE HERITAGE

[QQQ]

Agreed. I like the tone of this thread since Friday night. It will be amazing what the team accomplishes when the boys and coaches know that the entire community supports them. The boys do read this thread and it's great to see everyones positive thoughts.

Once again.... when the tone requires changing..... its the kids...... that puts everyone into the right context on this whole thing..... GO DRAGONS

[chhspantherfan]

If you get the Startlegram, check out the letter to the Editor on T Dodge from the UNT parents. It will be online tomorrow I believe. Really telling view of how difficult the situation was there.

[SLCbacker]

once again.... When the tone requires changing..... Its the kids...... That puts everyone into the right context on this whole thing..... Go dragons

+1

[Green Dragon]

Little History...... The "send-off" is a MUST-DO activity for all players parents, siblings, grandparents. It occurs before each playoff game!!!! It is ESSENTIAL to get this word out via email, text, phone, bullhorn, smoke signals.... unless things have changed, its paragraph in the back of the Parents Handbook and required duty

Senior Parents, this is your final assignment and its one that gets the underclass parents in the correct frame of reference come playoff time.

So why is this so important you may ask.....

1, This is "tradition" worth savoring. It is a fact that your senior sons are nearing the end of their high school experience, and it is one of those moments where parents can make your own personal assessment of your son's commitment to their teammates and focus for excellence as a member of the Dragon football program. For those few seconds that they leave that locker room and get on the bus, you get to see it up close and personal.... and it is something you will not forget after your boy leaves for the next step in their young life. The most overwhelming fact..... is its probably one of the last opportunities you will see your high school senior in competitive athletics. Don't miss it just to get a few rows down in JerryWorld... there are 90,000 other good seats too.

Secondly.... love the "GO DRAGONS GO" signs alongs 1709 this time of year.... only there needs to be about 5 times the number this week. Not fussing.... only educating.... this is the uniqueness of CISD..... it sends a strong message to our neighbors who travel through our city that we are a unique community that supports our kids.

GO DRAGONS..... BEAT COLLEYVILLE HERITAGE

It's been a while since I've actually wanted to post on here with all the season drama but this post says it all. Thanks QQQ! Couldn't have said it better.
By the way I only have 17 "Go Dragon Go" signs which I plan on putting on 1709 on the way out to 114 Friday night or Sat Morning. We have lost many over the years to city maintainence picking them up for "sign ordinance violations" and wind and other mischeivious friends from other communities. I don't know if I can get a replenishment number done in time to do to have them everywhere on the road out. I will see what we can do though.
Go Dragons!

[yankee]

via the college board...

Tre Newton's Career is Over :(

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/11/15/concussions_end.html#comments

[slcdragonfan]

via the college board...

Tre Newton's Career is Over :(

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/11/15/concussions_end.html#comments

This is pretty sad. I hope that there are no long term impacts from the concussions.

[SLC93]

via the college board...

Tre Newton's Career is Over :(

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/11/15/concussions_end.html#comments

DMN has this up now, too. It saddens me because I think had he been able to stay healthy TRe would have carved a nice place in Texas history. As it is he'll just move on to an incredibly successsful life. Last I heard anything he was all about a career in international finance. Great kid.

[kjones003]

Let me know if I can donate to new ones or put them out for you...

It's been a while since I've actually wanted to post on here with all the season drama but this post says it all. Thanks QQQ! Couldn't have said it better.
By the way I only have 17 "Go Dragon Go" signs which I plan on putting on 1709 on the way out to 114 Friday night or Sat Morning. We have lost many over the years to city maintainence picking them up for "sign ordinance violations" and wind and other mischeivious friends from other communities. I don't know if I can get a replenishment number done in time to do to have them everywhere on the road out. I will see what we can do though.
Go Dragons!

[Sakatha]

If you get the Startlegram, check out the letter to the Editor on T Dodge from the UNT parents. It will be online tomorrow I believe. Really telling view of how difficult the situation was there.

NM -

Game of life

To coach Todd Dodge and the entire family: Thank you! You are the ultimate winner. You have won the respect and admiration of players, parents, coaches and fans around you. You taught college students to wake up, walk away from destructive activities and instead take advantage of the opportunities provided to them. You challenged and won the minds of student athletes who previously felt they could not achieve academic success. You were the champion of grace in difficult times and taught our sons to shoulder responsibility rather than blame others. Your leadership in promoting academics won back scholarships. When injuries mounted, you showed those waiting in the wings that they, too, could be winners.

In a tremendously challenging time, you demonstrated tremendous integrity. Your efforts built an atmosphere of honor. You made UNT a place where noble young men would want to come and where their parents were proud to send them. We are honored to have shared this time with you.

Many make headlines for a day, but leaders who build the character of young men make a difference for a lifetime.

-- Cindy Gill, Argyle, on behalf of

67 parents and family members



Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/11/14/2630767/thank-yous-hispanic-voters-national.html#ixzz15SSkJTZW
~DnM

[drgnbkr]

Very nice!

[DrEdward]

Indeed. More to the game than a record indicates.

[kjones003]

I am trying to organize a fairly sizeable tailgate... Are we fairly sure lot C is going to be the spot? Its just on the other side of the Rangers ballpark which is great as long as the word gets out... does anyone know?

I couldn't get to Boosters mtg last night as I was tied up late at work.

http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/guests/parkingMap.cfm

We are having a pot luck table... and we'll get rolling immediately upon arriving in a caravan from the 'Send Off'.

Appreciate any assistance by those in the know...

[dragons08]

So I hate to get ahead of myself, but as far as travel plans for thanksgiving, does anyone know the possible start times/day we would play if we win this weekend?

I'm assuming a Friday game, and hoping for an 1400 or 1100 oclock game so I can make it. Any details would be allsome!

[dragonsdaddy]

NM -

Game of life

To coach Todd Dodge and the entire family: Thank you! You are the ultimate winner. You have won the respect and admiration of players, parents, coaches and fans around you. You taught college students to wake up, walk away from destructive activities and instead take advantage of the opportunities provided to them. You challenged and won the minds of student athletes who previously felt they could not achieve academic success. You were the champion of grace in difficult times and taught our sons to shoulder responsibility rather than blame others. Your leadership in promoting academics won back scholarships. When injuries mounted, you showed those waiting in the wings that they, too, could be winners.

In a tremendously challenging time, you demonstrated tremendous integrity. Your efforts built an atmosphere of honor. You made UNT a place where noble young men would want to come and where their parents were proud to send them. We are honored to have shared this time with you.

Many make headlines for a day, but leaders who build the character of young men make a difference for a lifetime.

-- Cindy Gill, Argyle, on behalf of

67 parents and family members



Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/11/14/2630767/thank-yous-hispanic-voters-national.html#ixzz15SSkJTZW
~DnM

td has changed many lives here and elsewhere. with or without the wins, he has been successful in ways seldom fully appreciated from afar. while the purist will say he has failed at 4/5 of his stops and i can't vouch for anywhere else, but i doubt his behavior or standards were much different either before or after slc. in my eyes, and likely in God's too, he is seen as an asset above and beyond anything gleaned in the win column. i echo the thanks this letter portrays. he has made a small part of the world a better place, and that is never a bad thing.

[SLCbacker]

td has changed many lives here and elsewhere. with or without the wins, he has been successful in ways seldom fully appreciated from afar. while the purist will say he has failed at 4/5 of his stops and i can't vouch for anywhere else, but i doubt his behavior or standards were much different either before or after slc. in my eyes, and likely in God's too, he is seen as an asset above and beyond anything gleaned in the win column. i echo the thanks this letter portrays. he has made a small part of the world a better place, and that is never a bad thing.

TD is a great leader of young men. We were incredibly fortunate to have him the years we did. We definitely enjoyed the wins, but he brought so much more than the wins. He was very consistent in his treatment of all players, and made them all feel valued. It will be interesting to see what is next for him. I echo the sentiments in the Star Telegram open letter, and dragondaddy's comments. All the Best!!! :notworthy

[DrEdward]

For those following such activities, the Carroll girls won their basketball game Tuesday evening with Flower Mound in overtime. The Carroll jv girls also managed a win in a close game.

[DragonFan0316]

Slap me if I said this earlier but last weeks game against FM was the best game plan I have seen in a long time. Hats off to the coaches. The kids also did a great job at executing. Let's keep that going. 1 week at a time. Go Dragons.

[DrEdward]

The girls volleyball banquet was held this evening in a most pleasant setting. The young ladies in their dresses look like very different beauties than most of us are used to seeing them on the court. Thanks for the invitation folks. Too many awards to summarize, but the record these young ladies achieved bears repeating:

Varsity.........41-6...13-1 in district.....coDistrict Champions
JV...............36-2...14-0 in district.....District Champions
Fr Black........36-1...14-0 in district.....District Champions (A level)
Fr Green.......24-3...12-0 in district.....District Champions (B level)

All this with but three seniors on this year's varsity team.

Wish we could be heading to San Marcos this weekend, but still a pretty good year for the Lady Dragons in volleyball. :notworthy

[justafan50]

Any word on seating arrangements Saturday? I see we are on North side and visitors...Couldn't find anything on Chill or Guyer site on their seating...Trinity says visitors sitting on South side.....Thanks

[DrEdward]

Any word on seating arrangements Saturday? I see we are on North side and visitors...Couldn't find anything on Chill or Guyer site on their seating...Trinity says visitors sitting on South side.....Thanks

Carroll will be seated on the same side as Guyer, Coppell, and Allen.

[justafan50]

Thanks Doc.

[DragonFan0316]

:o My apologies to Dr Edward and SLCdragonfan. Hopefully they have read my latest IM and will know why I am apologizing. :o:o

[slcdragonfan]

:o My apologies to Dr Edward and SLCdragonfan. Hopefully they have read my latest IM and will know why I am apologizing. :o:o

NP, I replied.

Maybe we'll see you at the game this weekend.

[kjones003]

We are planning to set up shop in LOT 10 in the NW corner. Unfortunately it is close to impossible to be sure we will succeed. I would prefer lot 4 but think that is considered a lot for the opposing teams. Anyone know?

Anyway... Lot 10... enter stadium through Gate H.

http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/guests/parkingMap.cfm

[justafan50]

Been coming here since 2002...What happened to our friend/foe farmerfan...Is he ok or on a sabbatical? Thanks

[slcdragonfan]

Been coming here since 2002...What happened to our friend/foe farmerfan...Is he ok or on a sabbatical? Thanks

He's pursuing his dreams. He could really kick some rumpus right about now in this season. :)

[justafan50]

Thanks SLC.....Glad everything is ok...Miss his input(I think).First texas high school football game I ever saw was Lewisville/Grapevine in 1995. Walked over from a hotel..Friday night lights drew me in!

[DrEdward]

:o My apologies to Dr Edward and SLCdragonfan. Hopefully they have read my latest IM and will know why I am apologizing. :o:o

Just sent you a PM. But thanks. I misunderstood. Color me stupid today. I blame it on listening to too many Washington types over the past few weeks. :eek:

[DrEdward]

He's pursuing his dreams. He could really kick some rumpus right about now in this season. :)

It's just that none of us have been quite informed as to what his dream might be!! ;) But he has shown up in one or two posts since he announced his vision quest a few weeks ago.

[JagFan]

He's pursuing his dreams. He could really kick some rumpus right about now in this season. :)

LOL There have been several threads I have thought uh oh where is Farmer this can be interesting. But he needs to do what he needs to do. :)

[slcdragonfan]

LOL There have been several threads I have thought uh oh where is Farmer this can be interesting. But he needs to do what he needs to do. :)

I found myself trying to fill his role in a few posts and discovered I was not worthy. ;)

Have to be ourselves, whatever that may be.

And Doc, I'll tell you what I know if I catch you on Saturday....

[JagFan]

I found myself trying to fill his role in a few posts and discovered I was not worthy. ;)

Have to be ourselves, whatever that may be.

And Doc, I'll tell you what I know if I catch you on Saturday....

You are correct we must just be ourselves and we can still get a laugh by what we know his response would be.

[justafan50]

I found myself trying to fill his role in a few posts and discovered I was not worthy. ;)

Have to be ourselves, whatever that may be.

And Doc, I'll tell you what I know if I catch you on Saturday....

Sober I hope:)

[dragons08]

Been coming here since 2002...What happened to our friend/foe farmerfan...Is he ok or on a sabbatical? Thanks

Him and I talk on a daily basis. He is a-okay and enjoying life. Working on obtaining a dream of his. He still reads occasionally, but doesn't post anymore. He is well on his way towards his goal.

[dragons08]

It's just that none of us have been quite informed as to what his dream might be!! ;) But he has shown up in one or two posts since he announced his vision quest a few weeks ago.

This dream in fact, does not involve a couch or Houston like many of ya'll are led on to believe. Hopefully he attains it. Him and I will be going to the state game together. Maybe pre or post we can all meet up and discuss life in general? I know he is down, as we plan on doing pre and post.

[Steve Butler]

Somebody took my signature serious:eek: We have a contract on our house:yes:

[Steve Butler]

after talking with several of you fans about our prison sports ministry

My web site is www.messengerspm.com (http://www.messengerspm.com)

[dragons08]

Somebody took my signature serious:eek: We have a contract on our house:yes:

Make sure you have their sons run the 40, do some catching and passing drills. Then re-evaluate if you want to take their offer.:D

[Spicerun]

Somebody took my signature serious:eek: We have a contract on our house:yes:
Make certain you don't have a certain sports related clause in the contract! :eek:

[kjones003]

Remember the last time we took the field in this venue?? WOW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpF-PnZ7DRU

I am getting excited... trying to delay the full on 'fired up' stage so I can be productive in the office tomorrow and not drive my wife crazy...

[Green Dragon]

My day is already shot as I am already focusing on tomorrow. It will be a great day to watch HS football in North Texas tomorrow no matter what team you follow. Best Value in Town!!!!
Go Dragons!!!!!!

[Steve Butler]

I mainly recorded this vid off of the JUMBO tron:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOERkVpIAA0

[toonman]

My day is already shot as I am already focusing on tomorrow. It will be a great day to watch HS football in North Texas tomorrow no matter what team you follow. Best Value in Town!!!!
Go Dragons!!!!!!

Why waste times on days like tomorrow. A group of writers should have a ranking of the teams they think are the #1 and #2. Then these two teams with the most votes should play for the State Championship. Much easier and far fewer games to play. College Football has got it right, so High School Football should follow the lead of College Football. After all we want to prepare the high school players for what playing in college will be like. Also if this system had been adopted by the NFL – the Dallas Cowboys would be playing in the Superbowl next year.

[slcdragonfan]

Why waste times on days like tomorrow. A group of writers should have a ranking of the teams they think are the #1 and #2. Then these two teams with the most votes should play for the State Championship. Much easier and far fewer games to play. College Football has got it right, so High School Football should follow the lead of College Football. After all we want to prepare the high school players for what playing in college will be like. Also if this system had been adopted by the NFL – the Dallas Cowboys would be playing in the Superbowl next year.

What's your call on this one toon? No points, just W/L and who?

I haven't seen Heritage this year EXCEPT for the Hebron game, not a good representation of them for sure. I have heard various things from various folks, but to me it sounds very much a toss up game, with mistakes making the difference.

[toonman]

What's your call on this one toon? No points, just W/L and who?

I haven't seen Heritage this year EXCEPT for the Hebron game, not a good representation of them for sure. I have heard various things from various folks, but to me it sounds very much a toss up game, with mistakes making the difference.

I posted in the Game Predicition Thread that this will be a close game to call, but that has never stopped me making a prediction.

The records of each team are very similar, but gives the edge to Colleyville Heritage, but I cannot help think that all the 'intangibles' favor the Dragons.

Such as the Dragons being 11-0 all time against the Panthers and speaking of Panthers, the Dragons are 15-0 all time 5A against all Panther teams. Like it or not there is the mental aspect of playing the Dragons that Colleyville has to overcome, not mention Coach Fuller's record against the Dragons. With more of the same as last Friday, I am going with the Dragons finding a way to get it done in the play-offs again - Dragons 33-Panthers 24.

[Champion]

Good luck Dragons! Play like Champions!

[Southlake Carroll Dragons]

This Dragon Team is a great team!!! Go out there Southlake Carroll and WIN the GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[kjones003]

still chilly out here in the lot... just packing up the tent and making some coffee...

j/k but ready for this day to get going....

GO DRAGONS

[huntm]

GAMEDAY!!!! There's nothing better than Texas HS Football.

GO DRAGONS GO!

[DrEdward]

still chilly out here in the lot... just packing up the tent and making some coffee...

j/k but ready for this day to get going....

GO DRAGONS

I am really impressed with your dedication.

[slcdragonfan]

I am being lazy admittedly, but if anyone knows the lot to park in can you post it again? I will review the threads but need to start loading up.

[beauxman]

I am being lazy admittedly, but if anyone knows the lot to park in can you post it again? I will review the threads but need to start loading up.

I know and I'll be with you.:heli:

[DragginDad11n14]

All I have seen is "North Parking Lots", which would be 10, 1, 2, and 3 which are next to Randol Mill. Enter through either of the endzone gates (C or H), which seems appropriate.

[beauxman]

All I have seen is "North Parking Lots", which would be 10, 1, 2, and 3 which are next to Randol Mill. Enter through either of the endzone gates (C or H), which seems appropriate.

If you go down 360, you can exit like you are going to 6 flags or Division. If you exit 6-flags, take road to 6-flags to Randol Mill and turn right.

If you exit Division (which is further but faster), turn Right on road to 6-flags, then turn left on Randol Mill.

Take Randol Mill to lot past stadium. (Corner of Randol Mill and Collins - Lot 10). Give yourself some time because there are alot of people going who don't know the area and that always backs things up.:(

[kjones003]

Lot 12 is the dragons lair!!! Were set up in the grass

[dragons08]

Great game guys. Yankee was giving me score updates. Mom was telling me team just looks young, but is def exciting to watch them play.

Any word on location/time for next week?

[DragginDad11n14]

Radio guys said 4pm Saturday Cowboys Stadium

[drgnbkr]

Congrats to Colleyville on a good year. Great 2nd half effort by the Dragons! Very impressive for a team with 20 new starters and a couple of guys going both ways. I don't think I can remember a 1st half when the Dragons did not score a TD...Observations: Quietest Carroll crowd I've ever seen. Colleyville's QB who was very fast and I'm sure is a great kid, was chucking and ducking on most of his passes.

[yankee]

Colleyville's QB who was very fast and I'm sure is a great kid, was chucking and ducking on most of his passes.

if i was a CH fan, i'd be a little frustrated as to why fuller didn't stick with calvert running the ball most of the game...though we can say the same thing as to why CG wasn't calling the effective QB draw in the first half like he was in the 2nd half. similar situation to last week wasn't it? love the play of the defense...outside of that huge QB run, they played fantastic.

shaun hoagland. freaking stud. love watching that kid play, his heart more than makes up for his lack of measurables. :notworthy

jalil gordon, will davis, and austin bridgers all played very well today too.

no passing game again leaves me a tad frustrated, but i have no room to complain because the kids got the 'W' and we executed on the ground again. on to abilene!

[dragonbuck]

if i was a CH fan, i'd be a little frustrated as to why fuller didn't stick with calvert running the ball most of the game...though we can say the same thing as to why CG wasn't calling the effective QB draw in the first half like he was in the 2nd half. similar situation to last week wasn't it? love the play of the defense...outside of that huge QB run, they played fantastic.

shaun hoagland. freaking stud. love watching that kid play, his heart more than makes up for his lack of measurables. :notworthy

jalil gordon, will davis, and austin bridgers all played very well today too.

no passing game again leaves me a tad frustrated, but i have no room to complain because the kids got the 'W' and we executed on the ground again. on to abilene!

he completed nearly all of the passes that were called, like 14 of 16 for 110 yards. he had one bad one, and that was the one that got picked. the other incompletion was the shovel pass (probably ill-advised). other than that, KH did all that was asked of him and played a great game. what a nice TD pass (and catch) to Hoagie.

The best 15 year old in the state IMHO:notworthy:notworthy
And my Buckeyes won, all in all a great day.:D

[drgnbkr]

he completed nearly all of the passes that were called, like 14 of 16 for 110 yards. he had one bad one, and that was the one that got picked. the other incompletion was the shovel pass (probably ill-advised). other than that, KH did all that was asked of him and played a great game. what a nice TD pass (and catch) to Hoagie.

The best 15 year old in the state IMHO:notworthy:notworthy
And my Buckeyes won, all in all a great day.:D

The pass and catch by Hogie was a thing of beauty! A few more like that and these guys could keep playing a while.

[SLCDad]

he completed nearly all of the passes that were called, like 14 of 16 for 110 yards. he had one bad one, and that was the one that got picked. the other incompletion was the shovel pass (probably ill-advised). other than that, KH did all that was asked of him and played a great game. what a nice TD pass (and catch) to Hoagie.

The best 15 year old in the state IMHO:notworthy:notworthy
And my Buckeyes won, all in all a great day.:D

I thought SLC mentally controlled both playoff games, especially in the 2nd halves. They ran the ball down FM's and CH's throats and took away any chance of either team getting back in the game. I thought the play calling was outstanding both games.

This team and the coaches have as much character as any of the past Dragon teams IMHO.

[DrEdward]

Congratulations to this Dragons team. The defense stepped up when it had to do so as did the offense. Tough game coming next week against a quality team as well. Enjoy your win tonight and tomorrow, then back to work. The boys have now met their second annual objective: they will be practicing on Thanksgiving Day. :heli:

Also congratulations to Carroll's School Resource Officer. This officer predicted the spread to the exact point to me at the basketball game Friday night. :notworthy

[drgnbkr]

Congratulations to this Dragons team. The defense stepped up when it had to do so as did the offense. Tough game coming next week against a quality team as well. Enjoy your win tonight and tomorrow, then back to work. The boys have now met their second annual objective: they will be practicing on Thanksgiving Day. :heli:

Also congratulations to Carroll's School Resource Officer. This officer predicted the spread to the exact point to me at the basketball game Friday night. :notworthy

Way to go Officer M!

[chhspantherfan]

he completed nearly all of the passes that were called, like 14 of 16 for 110 yards. he had one bad one, and that was the one that got picked. the other incompletion was the shovel pass (probably ill-advised). other than that, KH did all that was asked of him and played a great game. what a nice TD pass (and catch) to Hoagie.

The best 15 year old in the state IMHO:notworthy:notworthy
And my Buckeyes won, all in all a great day.:D

shovel pass was great calculated risk. Hats off to this kid. Of course, we have been battling him in baseball for a long time. :notworthy

[CCCSportsFan]

shovel pass was great calculated risk. Hats off to this kid. Of course, we have been battling him in baseball for a long time. :notworthy

Panther, congrats to your son and all of his teammates. They played with a ton of heart and fought until the final gun :notworthy

Way to go Dragons, next stop is Abilene :D

[chhspantherfan]

Panther, congrats to your son and all of his teammates. They played with a ton of heart and fought until the final gun :notworthy

Way to go Dragons, next stop is Abilene :D

thanks, and get after it the rest of the way. That would be a great compliment.

[Champion]

This senior class, along with the underclassmen have demonstrated a lot of heart, determination and grit. While not as strong as last years team from a talent and experience standpoint, they are making up for it with focus and determination.

Our defense and our running game is playing off the charts good.

[DragonFan0316]

Congratulations to the Dragons. Never thought I would enjoy watching a running team again but keep it up. Kids are executing game plan to a "T". Leppo had monster game as did Nate Butler and the rest of the O-line.

[DragonFan0316]

if i was a CH fan, i'd be a little frustrated as to why fuller didn't stick with calvert running the ball most of the game...though we can say the same thing as to why CG wasn't calling the effective QB draw in the first half like he was in the 2nd half. similar situation to last week wasn't it? love the play of the defense...outside of that huge QB run, they played fantastic.

shaun hoagland. freaking stud. love watching that kid play, his heart more than makes up for his lack of measurables. :notworthy jalil gordon, will davis, and austin bridgers all played very well today too.

no passing game again leaves me a tad frustrated, but i have no room to complain because the kids got the 'W' and we executed on the ground again. on to abilene!

Hoagieeeee

[yankee]

he completed nearly all of the passes that were called, like 14 of 16 for 110 yards. he had one bad one, and that was the one that got picked. the other incompletion was the shovel pass (probably ill-advised). other than that, KH did all that was asked of him and played a great game. what a nice TD pass (and catch) to Hoagie.

The best 15 year old in the state IMHO:notworthy:notworthy
And my Buckeyes won, all in all a great day.:D

no issue with kenny, like you said, he did all that he was asked to do and then some. :)

which is why i'm wondering why we haven't thrown the ball more, BECAUSE he's been so impressive...we're gonna need the vertical game soon (probably against abilene)...

i'll shutup now though, and enjoy the win. i can't imagine how proud the parents of these kids must be...with all they've been through and how no one really gave them a shot to make a run in the PO's this year. it's been awesome to watch/hear. :notworthy

[SLC13]

no issue with kenny, like you said, he did all that he was asked to do and then some. :)

which is why i'm wondering why we haven't thrown the ball more, BECAUSE he's been so impressive...we're gonna need the vertical game soon (probably against abilene)...

i'll shutup now though, and enjoy the win. i can't imagine how proud the parents of these kids must be...with all they've been through and how no one really gave them a shot to make a run in the PO's this year. it's been awesome to watch/hear. :notworthy

AHS fans have said almost weekly that their secondary is the weakness of their defense. Look for KH take more shots downfield this week to open up the running game.

[dragons08]

Being as our team is so young (i've only seen one game keep in mind) I feel like running the ball benefits us in ways that are being overlooked. By us running the ball AND scoring, that not only eats up A LOT of clock, it also keeps our defense off the field. It keeps them well-rested, allows them to be coached up even more, and it also allows them to "pump" themselves up per-say to give the ball back to the offense.

Granted, we could just be running it because we have a young QB, but I feel like it is a mixture of both. Getting Kenny experience and confidence is huge and will pay divends in a game against the defending state champs. Like it has been noted, when called upon Kenny has come through. I'm beyond proud of Kenny and next time I see him I will be sure to let him know.

Yes the passing game is by far much more fun to watch, but whatever helps the Dragons win is what I'm for. If we win 3-0 or 65-7, I am happy either way.

Keep up the good work guys. Ya'll are making your friends, family, and alumni very proud to be a Carroll Dragon each and every day.

[slcdragonfan]

if i was a CH fan, i'd be a little frustrated as to why fuller didn't stick with calvert running the ball most of the game...though we can say the same thing as to why CG wasn't calling the effective QB draw in the first half like he was in the 2nd half. similar situation to last week wasn't it? love the play of the defense...outside of that huge QB run, they played fantastic.

shaun hoagland. freaking stud. love watching that kid play, his heart more than makes up for his lack of measurables. :notworthy

jalil gordon, will davis, and austin bridgers all played very well today too.

no passing game again leaves me a tad frustrated, but i have no room to complain because the kids got the 'W' and we executed on the ground again. on to abilene!

Agree with all of this, but PARTICULARLY Shaun. What a player. :notworthyAnybody disagree with him playing on offense now?

[D1X]

this team and coaches;
- 1 returning starter
- lose projected d1 committed qb before season
- given little to no chance of making playoffs
- have equaled the longest playoff run since the championship runs
- dealt with fans yelling for hc's head
- dealt with individual(s) within the community with let's just say, "ulterior motives"
if adversity builds character...

[QQQ]

----- IMPORTANT NOTICE -----

Thanksgiving break is upon us.... and many, many former Dragons, visiting relatives, the traditional Dragon playoff crowd, & others will be venturing to Dragon Stadium - South to view the 2010 Dragons..... some will even be viewing their first Dragon game of this season....... they will be expecting to see the traditional fast break, pass-chunking offensive show............many simply will not recognize the 2010 version.......... you will need to below notes to help educate them.....remain calm at all times......

Here is your cheat sheet----
1. Yes, a two-back set has been in the playbook all year.... it is not new.... it is not a gimmick for this week only.
2. The QB is not 13................... he is 15....... (years old, that is)..... & mom has to take & pick him up from practice
3. The 3-4 defense was installed last spring..... again not simply for this weekend.....
4. Most important.... 2010 Dragons (especially this group) are exceeding ALL expectations and making this community extremely proud. The values of Dragon football are sound and give us great pride!!!!

Safe travels to all Dragons and Abilene Eagle fans coming to town this week!!!!!

[crunked9]

Nice win today Dragons!

SLC over all looked very good. Only saw a few things that bothered me. But looked like they got corrected during the game. So good job by the players and coaches to make adjustments.

I thought the roll out passing plays were very nice. Gave Hill a chance to see one side of the field and better passing lanes.

It was also very big to hold them to a field goal after the interception.


Man CHHS, 0 - 12 against SLC.... Dang! "We ready, we ready, we ready for ya'll" , haha, guess not!

[Steve Butler]

O-Line 5 yard carry.

#61 Chris Leppo Kickoff Return

Shaun Hoagland diving catch



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCLcvHDRXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCLcvHDRXQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4bGOY9pao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4bGOY9pao)

[yankee]

O-Line 5 yard carry.

#61 Chris Leppo Kickoff Return

Shaun Hoagland diving catch



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCLcvHDRXQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCLcvHDRXQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4bGOY9pao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4bGOY9pao)


:notworthy

very nice camera work.

[yankee]

Anybody disagree with him playing on offense now?

:laugh

[slcdragonfan]

:laugh

Only thing I can see is we should have done it for the past two years!:rofl:

[slcdragonfan]

I want to tell any Dragon players, coaches, parents, trainers, staff, administration that might be reading this how very very proud I and probably most of the Dragon nation is of you today. Overcoming adversity, executing the plan, achieving WELL over expectations (THIRD ROUND!), these are life lessons. And it is a message to us fans, NEVER stop believing in the capabilities of your kids.

I think Abilene will be a heck of a challenge, but I also believe we can win this game. Whether we do or do not, however, I thank you all for this season.:notworthy

[SLC93]

I have several quick hitters.

First, to all of the coaches and players associated with the 2010 Dragon Football season I would simply like to say that the distance you've come since game one is nothing short of amazing. I'm an alum and have seen every team since 1986 play. Your growth is second to none of these squads. All any of us ever ask of you, despite what you may read, is that you learn, play hard, enjoy the game, love one another and respect your opponent. You have not failed to deliver. I knew this season was going to be an interesting ride. God bless each of you as you continue working out your dreams. :notworthy

Next, opinions about Coach W aside, I think we need to admit this has been as job well done. I also think we need to revisit the reasons why the early games were closer than we'd like. Have any of us really given credence to what it means to have two new coordinators, with one installing a brand new scheme and the other making some major tweaks to the other? Couple that with the youth of the squad and the summer controversy and I believe any dissatisfaction some may have felt in the first four weeks should be completely eradicated.

As to Hoagland playing some offene, this pains me, but I told you so. You put your best weapons on the field, period. If this helps the team achieve their goals, so be it. Every week that passes fewer boys are still playing this game across the state. Do what you must, Dragons!

I like the running emphasis. I think it's brilliant, especially with a young quarterback, regardless of talent level, and a defense that is playing so well. The game is four quarters and if you control the clock and field position your opportunities will present at some point. I love what they are doing.

Keep it up, kids! We'll be listening this week as the holidays us take us to Tulsa. Best of luck. Don't play for us. Play for you. We're already beyond thrilled with each of you.

[drgnsbrth]

Way to go Dragons! Never imagined I would miss as many games as I have, but life changes and goes a different direction. I am with you in spirit each week.

[CCCSportsFan]

Way to go Dragons! Never imagined I would miss as many games as I have, but life changes and goes a different direction. I am with you in spirit each week.

Your absenses are definitely excused ones!! You have a very good reason why you're missing games!

[toonman]

I have several quick hitters.

First, to all of the coached and players associated with the 2010 Dragon Football season I would simply like to say that the distance you've come since game one is nothing short of amazing. I'm an alum and have seen every team since 1986 play. Your growth is second to none of these squads. All any of us ever ask of you, despite what you may read, is that you learn, play hard, enjoy the game, love one another and respect your opponent. You have not failed to deliver. I knew this season was going to be an interesting ride. God bless each of you as you continue working out your dreams. :notworthy

Next, opinions about Coach W aside, I think we need to admit this has been as job well done. I also think we need to revisit the reasons why the early games were closer than we'd like. Have any of us really given credence to what it means to have two new coordinators, with one installing a brand new scheme and the other making some major tweaks to the other? Couple that with the youth of the squad and the summer controversy and I believe any dissatisfaction some may have felt in the first four weeks should be completely eradicated.

As to Hoagland playing some offene, this pains me, but I told you so. You put your best weapons on the field, period. If this helps the team achieve their goals, so be it. Every week that passes fewer boys are still playing this game across the state. Do what you must, Dragons!

I like the running emphasis. I think it's brilliant, especially with a young quarterback, regardless of talent level, and a defense that is playing so well. The game is four quarters and if you control the clock and field position your opportunities will present at some point. I love what they are doing.

Keep it up, kids! We'll be listening this week as the holidays us take us to Tulsa. Best of luck. Don't play for us. Play for you. We're already beyond thrilled with each of you.

I find myself agreeing with much of what you have stated. While l have not watched as many Dragon Teams as you have; I still feel qualified to comment in view of the number of games I have watched over the years. I think the 2010 Dragons can stand shoulder to shoulder with any previous Dragon Team. Never has a Dragon Team which promised so little and has delivered so much.

I have been able to witness some of the early season 'hapless' performances (and to deny these were hapless is to truly see the program through green tinted eyewear - of note in this respect are the Bell and Berkner games), to the polished and accomplished performances of the last two weeks.

Once again these 2010 Dragons have delivered beyond expectations. While the facts point to an Abilene win in the next game, it would be no surprise to me to see the Dragons win again. There is a resolve and determination in the 2010 Dragona; that will be remember by all for years to come.

Also I want to make a huge shout out to Shaun Hoagland – the player of the season in my mind. Also credit to the coaching staff in identifying a player who can add value to the Offense; as well as being a great defensive player.
Once more, may I congratulate both the players and coaching staff on a job well done last Saturday.

[SLC93]

I find myself agreeing with much of what you have stated. While l have not watched as many Dragon Teams as you have; I still feel qualified to comment in view of the number of games I have watched over the years. I think the 2010 Dragons can stand shoulder to shoulder with any previous Dragon Team. Never has a Dragon Team which promised so little and has delivered so much.

I have been able to witness some of the early season 'hapless' performances (and to deny these were hapless is to truly see the program through green tinted eyewear - of note in this respect are the Bell and Berkner games), to the polished and accomplished performances of the last two weeks.

Once again these 2010 Dragons have delivered beyond expectations. While the facts point to an Abilene win in the next game, it would be no surprise to me to see the Dragons win again. There is a resolve and determination in the 2010 Dragona; that will be remember by all for years to come.

Also I want to make a huge shout out to Shaun Hoagland – the player of the season in my mind. Also credit to the coaching staff in identifying a player who can add value to the Offense; as well as being a great defensive player.
Once more, may I congratulate both the players and coaching staff on a job well done last Saturday.

Well said, sir.:)

[QQQ]

It's important that someone note this for the record.

Toon catches alot of grief, far too often, for some of his opinions. I actually find him to be sincere and passionate in his love for the kids and the program. For those that believe otherwise this is just one example of how Toon does care.

Well said, sir.

Once again.... its' the kids' demonstrated achievements that have, again, taught so many "true lessons" of HS athletics.

There are a huge number of "lessons learned" from this season.

And that discussion is appropriate on here after January 1, 2011.

As for now.... everyone needs to keep their seat belts fastened.... this ride is looking more and more like an "E" ticket at Disneyland

[DrEdward]

The Carroll Dragons cross country teams earned berths to the prestigious Nike Cross Nationals. The girls finished first and the boys took second in the Nike Cross Nationals South Regional on Saturday in The Woodlands. The Nike Cross Nationals are set for Dec. 4 in Portland, Oregon. Carroll will be among just 22 teams across the nation to participate in this event.

[huntm]

Did anyone see Nebraska's HC verbally dress down his starting qb Saturday? I was mortified to see this happen. Then I started reading reports that the head coach has been getting complaints from the kids' dad about playing time, etc. It's also being reported that the kid texted his dad from the locker room after he was getting his injury checked.

I'm saddened to see the head coach from a great program act the way he acts. I'm also saddened to hear reports of parents meddling in a program.

It makes me very proud to see coaches handle similar situations with patents and kids, like the one being reported in Nebraska, with class and professionalism.

[dragonpants]

Did anyone see Nebraska's HC verbally dress down his starting qb Saturday? I was mortified to see this happen. Then I started reading reports that the head coach has been getting complaints from the kids' dad about playing time, etc. It's also being reported that the kid texted his dad from the locker room after he was getting his injury checked.

I'm saddened to see the head coach from a great program act the way he acts. I'm also saddened to hear reports of parents meddling in a program.

It makes me very proud to see coaches handle similar situations with patents and kids, like the one being reported in Nebraska, with class and professionalism.

um.......never mind no message.

I will not posting until after the Abilene game this Saturday.

[kjones003]

I'll be posting after Saturday as well... something about Denton Guyer and the next weeks tailgate...


um.......never mind no message.

I will not posting until after the Abilene game this Saturday.

[toonman]

----- IMPORTANT NOTICE -----

Thanksgiving break is upon us.... and many, many former Dragons, visiting relatives, the traditional Dragon playoff crowd, & others will be venturing to Dragon Stadium - South to view the 2010 Dragons..... some will even be viewing their first Dragon game of this season....... they will be expecting to see the traditional fast break, pass-chunking offensive show............many simply will not recognize the 2010 version.......... you will need to below notes to help educate them.....remain calm at all times......

Here is your cheat sheet----
1. Yes, a two-back set has been in the playbook all year.... it is not new.... it is not a gimmick for this week only.
2. The QB is not 13................... he is 15....... (years old, that is)..... & mom has to take & pick him up from practice
3. The 3-4 defense was installed last spring..... again not simply for this weekend.....
4. Most important.... 2010 Dragons (especially this group) are exceeding ALL expectations and making this community extremely proud. The values of Dragon football are sound and give us great pride!!!!

Safe travels to all Dragons and Abilene Eagle fans coming to town this week!!!!!

This is true genius.

[CCCSportsFan]

Does anyone know if the ticket office will be open this week for pre-game ticket sales?

[beauxman]

----- IMPORTANT NOTICE -----

Thanksgiving break is upon us.... and many, many former Dragons, visiting relatives, the traditional Dragon playoff crowd, & others will be venturing to Dragon Stadium - South to view the 2010 Dragons..... some will even be viewing their first Dragon game of this season....... they will be expecting to see the traditional fast break, pass-chunking offensive show............many simply will not recognize the 2010 version.......... you will need to below notes to help educate them.....remain calm at all times......

Here is your cheat sheet----
1. Yes, a two-back set has been in the playbook all year.... it is not new.... it is not a gimmick for this week only.
2. The QB is not 13................... he is 15....... (years old, that is)..... & mom has to take & pick him up from practice
3. The 3-4 defense was installed last spring..... again not simply for this weekend.....
4. Most important.... 2010 Dragons (especially this group) are exceeding ALL expectations and making this community extremely proud. The values of Dragon football are sound and give us great pride!!!!

Safe travels to all Dragons and Abilene Eagle fans coming to town this week!!!!!

But the Cowboys have a better record in there!!! Coppell that is! :D

[SLCbandmom]

Does anyone know if the ticket office will be open this week for pre-game ticket sales?

Tickets will be sold at the Dragon Stadium Athletic Office from 10:00 am - 1:00 pm on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday this week. The ticket office will also open on Thursday from 8:00 - 10:00 am.

Pre-game tickets will be $8 for students and $10 for adults. All tickets at Cowboys Stadium the day of the game will be $12. Parking at Cowboys Stadium will be $10.

This week the Dragons are the HOME team, but we will park and sit on the North side of the stadium, same as last Saturday.

[DragginDad11n14]

Does anyone know if the ticket office will be open this week for pre-game ticket sales?

I am told that tickets will be available at Dragon Stadium Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday from 10am-1pm and on Thursday from 8am-10am. We're home, sitting on the same side (North) as last week.

[SLC13]

But the Cowboys have a better record in there!!! Coppell that is! :D

The Dragons are undefeated at JerryWorld.......

[QQQ]

But the Cowboys have a better record in there!!! Coppell that is! :D

Interesting..... Dragons 3-0 in Dragons Stadium-South. (2 wins in 2009 against CHHS & Allen)(1 win in 2010 against CHHS)

Refresh our memory with Coppell's achievements inside Jerry's Club.

[beauxman]

Interesting..... Dragons 3-0 in Dragons Stadium-South. (2 wins in 2009 against CHHS & Allen)(1 win in 2010 against CHHS)

Refresh our memory with Coppell's achievements inside Jerry's Club.

OK, I thought you guys played Bowie there last year. My bad. We have the same record there (Keller, PESH, Dunk-n-vil)

[slcdragonfan]

OK, I thought you guys played Bowie there last year. My bad. We have the same record there (Keller, PESH, Dunk-n-vil)
Bowie was SMU. We have lost two games there in the past 4 years.

[DrEdward]

In fairness, I was critical of Guyer when we played them at Dragon Stadium, but the team I saw play on Saturday was much better. But to the point on this thread, several members of the Guyer team wished the Carroll players good luck against CHHS as they were leaving the field and Carroll was entering. Good for them.

[dragonbuck]

In fairness, I was critical of Guyer when we played them at Dragon Stadium, but the team I saw play on Saturday was much better. But to the point on this thread, several members of the Guyer team wished the Carroll players good luck against CHHS as they were leaving the field and Carroll was entering. Good for them.

No good luck head-butts?:mad:

[Southlake Carroll Dragons]

no good luck head-butts?:mad:

+1:)

[QQQ]

Congrats to former Dragon Colby Lowe and his OSU teammates for winning NCAA D-1 National Championship today in Terre Haute, Indiana

Colby had a 7th place individual finish & secures another All-American title for his already stellar resume.

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/c-xc/champpage/inc/div1/2010d1mteamsresults.html

http://www.ustfccca.org/featured/all-america-honors-for-2010-division-i-cross-country-season-released

[dragons08]

Did anyone see Nebraska's HC verbally dress down his starting qb Saturday? I was mortified to see this happen. Then I started reading reports that the head coach has been getting complaints from the kids' dad about playing time, etc. It's also being reported that the kid texted his dad from the locker room after he was getting his injury checked.

I'm saddened to see the head coach from a great program act the way he acts. I'm also saddened to hear reports of parents meddling in a program.

It makes me very proud to see coaches handle similar situations with patents and kids, like the one being reported in Nebraska, with class and professionalism.

Some of us just prefer to lock the players in question in a shed. To each his own.

[Steve Butler]

Some Love for Dragon Wrestling. Nate, Dominic, Troy Angelin and Swoyer will be with this group heading to State when football is over

WRESTLING

**Charger Invitational** Nov. 20th

The dragons ended a tough day of competition Saturday at the Charger Invitational hosted by Central High School with a 4th place team finish. Individual highlights were tournament champions Ryan Waters defeating State Qualifer, Tolliver (Central) @ 125, Dillon Swacker capturing his 2nd title in as many weeks @ 160 and Riley Langston winning his first tourament @ 171. Trevor Hadley also made the
finals @ 180. in all, 8 dragons placed in the top 4.

Our JV wrestlers competed well Friday night. Some notable undefeated wrestlers were, Tim Swart, Grant Pigg, Isaak Perez, and Matt Spuria.

[DrEdward]

I know all the Carroll fans' minds are on the upcoming game with Abilene and Thanksgiving, but the Dragons are still playing basketball this week. Tonight, the girls will be at North Crowley for a 7:30pm start. If you aren't of a mind to head south this evening, the boys are playing at Carroll this evening against Plano West. Both teams can use your support, so if you've got nothing else going, head to one of the Carrol games.

[6699dragons]

Justin Drescher (FORMER DRAGON) was signed by the New Orleans as a deep snapper last night.

How good is this Drescher (FORMER DRAGON) snapping to holder
Chase Daniels (FORMER DRAGON) so that
Garret Hartley (FORMER DRAGON) can Kick it,
and all of this on the same field as the dragons will take on abilene on saturday.



As Always proud to be part of the Dragon Nation

[kjones003]

Could someone PM me the practice time and place for Thanksgiving morning? I have a group of about 10 of us wanting to go and applaud the accomplishment with some presence '-)

[dragonpants]

Justin Drescher (FORMER DRAGON) was signed by the New Orleans as a deep snapper last night.

How good is this Drescher (FORMER DRAGON) snapping to holder
Chase Daniels (FORMER DRAGON) so that
Garret Hartley (FORMER DRAGON) can Kick it,
and all of this on the same field as the dragons will take on abilene on saturday.



As Always proud to be part of the Dragon Nation

That is very cool.

[dragons08]

Just heard that Greg McElroy won ESPN's Academic All-American of the Year.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112310aaa.html

[Green Dragon]

Justin Drescher's number will be #47 and he is supposed to be on the sideline with the Saints on Thursday at Cowboy Stadium. I know the whole Drescher family is proud as is the whole Dragon Family of his signing. How great is it that we have three former Dragons on the same team. Seems like Sean Payton didn't forget what he saw when he lived in the area when we was with the Cowboys and saw the Dragons play many times. Good for all our Professional Dragons (Saints); Daniel; Hartley and now Drescher.

[CCCSportsFan]

Justin Drescher (FORMER DRAGON) was signed by the New Orleans as a deep snapper last night.

How good is this Drescher (FORMER DRAGON) snapping to holder
Chase Daniels (FORMER DRAGON) so that
Garret Hartley (FORMER DRAGON) can Kick it,
and all of this on the same field as the dragons will take on abilene on saturday.



As Always proud to be part of the Dragon Nation

This is absolutely great to hear!! You'll be hard pressed to find a nicer and more sincere family than the Drescher's!!! Momma and Daddy are busting their buttons :yes: Wonder if they were thinking during the Dragon game on Saturday that they'd be back in Jerryworld watching Justin play 5 days later for the Saints!

[DragonFan0316]

I need to reach out to the Dragon nation. My son, Carroll grad of 2010 needs to complete a college assignment. It involves interviewing someone 75ish about there lives and in particularly when they were his age. If you fit the description or know someone that does that is willing to participate please send me a PM. Thank you so much.

[DragonFan0316]

Just heard that Greg McElroy won ESPN's Academic All-American of the Year.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112310aaa.html

Go Mac!!