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I'm only three weeks into my marriage. Wives get mad?:confused:;)
At least once a month....:D
OakTreeUp-n-Out
11-04-2008, 09:42 AM
you got married during football season?
VIOLATION!
VIOLATION!
VIOLATION!
I *really* thought more of you than this, 93! My buddies have messed up and had TWO weddings on Saturdays this fall, and another actually scheduled his for opening day of hunting season, too... TERRIBLE!
(Congrats).
(But still pulling your man card for this).
VIOLATION!
VIOLATION!
VIOLATION!
I *really* thought more of you than this, 93! My buddies have messed up and had TWO weddings on Saturdays this fall, and another actually scheduled his for opening day of hunting season, too... TERRIBLE!
(Congrats).
(But still pulling your man card for this).
Yea... The only way its acceptable is if you got married at a football game on Saturday....
dragonpants
11-04-2008, 10:09 AM
No biggie. I'm all about talking hard and playing harder. When the game is over, it's over. I think next season's game could be an all time classic. We'll be looking to give back some of those welps y'all left on our backsides.:D
Come on man........next season.......booooo. What about later this year in the playoffs.:D
DrEdward
11-04-2008, 10:15 AM
Before we Carroll fans worry about who we shall meet in the playoffs, our primary concern had damn well better be winning Friday night's game against Lewisville. The time to worry further about playoffs does not commence until somewhere around 10:00pm Friday night. :o
CSRadioGuy
11-04-2008, 10:20 AM
Before we Carroll fans worry about who we shall meet in the playoffs, our primary concern had damn well better be winning Friday night's game against Lewisville. The time to worry further about playoffs does not commence until somewhere around 10:00pm Friday night. :o
Kind of what my last two posts in this thread have said.
I think you guys will beat Lewisvile, but as I pointed out earlier your playoff ticket is not fully punched yet.
But as I also said, it's already established that your first opponent will be Heritage. That will be a GREAT matchup.
mojotrain
11-04-2008, 10:23 AM
All the time... After 17 years I'm used to it though... She means well I'm sure... But she sure is firery though...:)
After arguing with you for several dozen post see why. I vote for her side on any argument..:)
SLCNewbie
11-04-2008, 10:23 AM
Hey Dragon fans... There are alot of teams that are represented by their fans with a dedicated thread... And we are one of the greatest programs in the history of Texas, so I figured we should have our own as well. This isnt intended to replace the weekly game threads.. Its just a place for Dragon fans to come to.
While here feel free to discuss all things that are Carroll Dragons..ie.. players, coaches, future Dragons, plays, or whatever else..
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
dragonpants
11-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Before we Carroll fans worry about who we shall meet in the playoffs, our primary concern had damn well better be winning Friday night's game against Lewisville. The time to worry further about playoffs does not commence until somewhere around 10:00pm Friday night. :o
You are correct, I just get excited Doc. It is that time of the year.
dragonpants
11-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Word taken. You had me worried there for a minute.
Panther, you kicked me out of a 5-5A thread and you are here in a Dragon thread. I was not even in a CHHS thread, oh that is right you guys do not have enough posters for that :D.
GO back to 5-5A
mojotrain
11-04-2008, 10:29 AM
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
Welcome to Texas and Texas Highschool football.
After arguing with you for several dozen post see why. I vote for her side on any argument..:)
Yea... The difference is you and I are just bantering back and forth... When my lady throws it down, there is no back and forth bantering... Its one sided.. She's an hispanic lady and they can be mean and loud...:D
the_great_state_of_TExas
11-04-2008, 10:32 AM
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
Welcome Home.
chhspantherfan
11-04-2008, 10:33 AM
Panther, you kicked me out of a 5-5A thread and you are here in a Dragon thread. I was not even in a CHHS thread, oh that is right you guys do not have enough posters for that :D.
GO back to 5-5A
that is why i am here. it says Carroll Dragon Fan Thread. well, i am a fan of how many posters that ya'll have. ;)
dragonpants
11-04-2008, 10:34 AM
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
Welcome to Dragonland.
You are correct the place is awesome, football team or not.
The players visiting the schools happens frequently and is part of PALS, which is a course for the Senior class where they go to a specific class once a week and teach the children responsibility etc.
It is great the older kids really like it.
I have lived all over and this is the best community and nicest people I have ever met.
mojotrain
11-04-2008, 10:35 AM
Yea... The difference is you and I are just bantering back and forth... When my lady throws it down, there is no back and forth bantering... Its one sided.. She's an hispanic lady and they can be mean and loud...:D
Your smarter in marriage than in football:) As long as you always know the pecking order in family life your marriage will last.:)
PS, Hispanic ladys = good food!
Before we Carroll fans worry about who we shall meet in the playoffs, our primary concern had damn well better be winning Friday night's game against Lewisville. The time to worry further about playoffs does not commence until somewhere around 10:00pm Friday night. :o
You are correct Doc... although other then cheering loudly.. we cannot do anything else for them... Its on the staff and the kids at this point, and we are behind them full bore...;)
Believe me if I could help them by getting out there and hitting someone I would.... Uh... well... nevermind... these kids today are just to dang tough..:D
that is why i am here. it says Carroll Dragon Fan Thread. well, i am a fan of how many posters that ya'll have. ;)
.....:D:notworthy
Your smarter in marriage than in football As long as you always know the pecking order in family life your marriage will last.:)
PS, Hispanic ladys = good food!
I like to think I am smarter in marriage then in football.... which still puts me miles ahead of you...:p:D
Yessir.... I always have put my family first... the are #1... Football is #1A..:D
And you are so correct.... The food is awesome...;)
SLCbacker
11-04-2008, 10:53 AM
What are the tailgating plans for Friday?
LAHawk
11-04-2008, 10:55 AM
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
Those two schools have traditionally been football powers for many years. Do the California cities and/or communities not support their teams as they do here? You would think that for those two well known and traditionally good teams, there would be a large fan base and support.
I'm just curious.
SLC93
11-04-2008, 10:55 AM
....... Or maybe this season in the playoffs...;)
I like the way your mind is working.:cool:
What are the tailgating plans for Friday?
I know drgnbkr is planning on tailgating... I think he posted it in the game thread...
I will not be in attendence this week as I have a blood rivalry game to attend in Grayson County...:cool:
LAHawk
11-04-2008, 11:00 AM
....... Or maybe this season in the playoffs...;)
Let us get through Thanksgiving, then we'll talk. :D
SLC93
11-04-2008, 11:06 AM
VIOLATION!
VIOLATION!
VIOLATION!
I *really* thought more of you than this, 93! My buddies have messed up and had TWO weddings on Saturdays this fall, and another actually scheduled his for opening day of hunting season, too... TERRIBLE!
(Congrats).
(But still pulling your man card for this).
Damn! Who'd a thought Oak would lay the wood?!? Seriously, though, it couldn't be helped. Call it extenuating circumstances. The "real" wedding will be much larger, complete with big party afterwards, and will be held in the spring. We'll look at opening day of baseball season. Nobody cares about that sport and if they do their season will still have aboutn 500 games left in it.:D I'll pm you the details if you think I could possibly get me card back. You know, I lose that thing alot more than I should.:mad:;)
SLC93
11-04-2008, 11:08 AM
Come on man........next season.......booooo. What about later this year in the playoffs.:D
That goes without saying. Birds fly south for the winter because they can't stay warm. Dragons just fire up!:D
the_great_state_of_TExas
11-04-2008, 11:08 AM
What are the tailgating plans for Friday?
Let's start early on Friday. It's time to upset the resident librarians.
SLC93
11-04-2008, 11:10 AM
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
Welcome aboard & we won't hold that against you.;):D
LAHawk
11-04-2008, 11:10 AM
That goes without saying. Birds fly south for the winter because they can't stay warm. Dragons just fire up!:D
I'd say Reliant Stadium is far enough south to stay warm.:D
SLC93
11-04-2008, 11:11 AM
Yea... The difference is you and I are just bantering back and forth... When my lady throws it down, there is no back and forth bantering... Its one sided.. She's an hispanic lady and they can be mean and loud...:D
Parts of me can be too after a hispanic meal.:eek::ninja:
SLC93
11-04-2008, 11:13 AM
I'd say Reliant Stadium is far enough south to stay warm.:D
The best fried bird I ever had was in H-Town. i could go for that.:Music
Parts of me can be too after a hispanic meal.:eek::ninja:
LMAO......:D
drgnbkr
11-04-2008, 11:45 AM
Let's start early on Friday. It's time to upset the resident librarians.
Stop by my black F-150 with the American flag on it along the grass. I'll be out early.
drgnbkr
11-04-2008, 11:47 AM
My family and I moved from California to Southlake over the summer for two reasons, "the schools and the tradition". Prior to moving here we fell in love with the town, the dedication to the school system and its athletics.
I have young daughters who once only wore Pink and now has been replaced by Green. Within the first week of school our daughter in kindergarten was signing the Carroll Dragon fight song, word for word. We attend all Southlake town activites, football and the HS girls volleyball games.
We are very proud of this town and its athletics. This past friday a handful of the varsity football team went to my daughters elementary school and sat down with the students to discuss healthy decisions in everyday life ie; healthy food, say no to drugs, etc.... All weekend she talked all about "number so and so who plays such and such postition taught me about this and that". Believe me, from were we come from in Calfornia this does not happen. Granted this happens in other towns and cities, but this is Southlake and I'm proud of what my children are learning in the schools, the community and their friends.
By the way we are from Mater Dei and De La Salle.
Carroll upper classes have a thing called "Little Eyes" which simply means that there are lot's of younger kids watching what you do as an upperclassman. Represent well the Dragon Tradition, because little eyes are watching....
DragonFan0316
11-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Only Tuesday and I can't wait till Friday. I think the boys will whip Lewisville and be ready for the Panthers annual come-upence next week. After that who knows. I would not look forward to playing a team with a big athletic o-line but I still have faith we can go all the way. Maybe I am crazy or just drunk on the kool aide.
4rings
11-04-2008, 01:32 PM
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No, I wasn't really trying to say that. It's just 4 rings and I wanted to let him know that we are banged up too. I think we lost another guy in the Carroll game that we had been waiting to heal up all year. He was injured this summer in 7 on 7.
Yeah, you may have had some injuries, but two of them WERE NOT your starting QB and MLB, brutha. You won fair and square but your program doesn't even compare. String a few titles together before you pop off and show your ignorance. Act like you've been there before.
4rings
11-04-2008, 01:37 PM
DP directed an O that had 430+ yards and no turnovers in a Dist championship game with the D spying on him and delivering punishing hits. That was a solid performance by a QB in his 3rd game. Nuf said.
Not quite. Avers had over 200 + yards rushing, Piland has double the rushing attempts and got 60. Not altogether his fault. Coaches call plays. Players execute. 1 exception...options...pitch the ball when the end pinches in. Look at his passing numbers. Accuracy has been his problem all along. Don't want to bash a kid, but solid it wasn't.
SLC13
11-04-2008, 01:40 PM
Only Tuesday and I can't wait till Friday. I think the boys will whip Lewisville and be ready for the Panthers annual come-upence next week. After that who knows. I would not look forward to playing a team with a big athletic o-line but I still have faith we can go all the way. Maybe I am crazy or just drunk on the kool aide.
It's kind of hard to wish for both those things.....The Dragons can't go very far in the PO's without facing large talented OL's. To make the Region 1 finals, our PO road will have to go through CHHS and then likely Cedar Hill and Abilene.
So if we want to be playing several weeks down the road, we'd better get our defensive problems fixed and start playing like we did earlier in the season. This week against LV would be an excellent time for the defense to re-emerge.......:)
slcdragonfan
11-04-2008, 02:21 PM
It's kind of hard to wish for both those things.....The Dragons can't go very far in the PO's without facing large talented OL's. To make the Region 1 finals, our PO road will have to go through CHHS and then likely Cedar Hill and Abilene.
So if we want to be playing several weeks down the road, we'd better get our defensive problems fixed and start playing like we did earlier in the season. This week against LV would be an excellent time for the defense to re-emerge.......:)
...and then Possibly Hebron again.:eek::D we KNOW how big and fast those kids are.
But Lewisville. Lewisville. Lewisville. Repeat after me: There is only one game, and it is Lewisville.
SLC93
11-04-2008, 02:27 PM
Not quite. Avers had over 200 + yards rushing, Piland has double the rushing attempts and got 60. Not altogether his fault. Coaches call plays. Players execute. 1 exception...options...pitch the ball when the end pinches in. Look at his passing numbers. Accuracy has been his problem all along. Don't want to bash a kid, but solid it wasn't.
Taking it to an extreme but we optioned our way to the school record for offensive points in 92. I'd really like to see the rush part of this offense exploited more appropriately as Piland gains experience and/or as we await the return of Padron. Playing to an obvious strength and decreasing the minutes the defense is on the field is not a bad strategy right now.
SLC93
11-04-2008, 02:32 PM
You all know I'm a little removed from the day to day movements of the program. Something I've not seen seriously discussed has been the struggles of our defense over the last month. Specifically how it contrasts to the utter dominance they displayed early. Our predistrict schedule was the best we've played in years, even minus the NS game, so the numbers weren't "artificial". I know we've been dinged but has injury been the issue? I'm wondering what the problem is perceived to be by those that are able to attend every week. If we can keep this to strictly football, let's discuss. If you have other opinions, please pm me. Thanks!
dragonbuck
11-04-2008, 03:47 PM
I agree but ,I'm telling you, 93 has a sickness. I get mad at myself. Maybe this is all rooted in childhood.........Did I ever tell you about the times I lost a third grade spelling bee? Man, that thing has really stuck with me!:D;)
You must let it go....JUST LET IT GO!
dragonbuck
11-04-2008, 03:54 PM
We're going to need a number of areas to step up and improve in November. Therefore, as a very novice football expert, here would be my list of drills to include in practice to best prepare for that improvement...
* Assuming you can help a young and talented QB on this phase of the game, run a drill in which the primary receiver is covered. QB must look for at least one additional receiver to throw to, before tucking it in and running.
* Going at 3/4 speed, run a ball carrier at a defensive player and force the tackler to break down and wrap up the runner's legs, versus jumping on his back and riding him to the ground.
* Oklahoma drill, or at least, that's what we called it. Put a blocker on a defensive member with a runner behind him to run thru a 5 foot path. Defensive player must shed his block and fill that path, versus getting locked up.
* Throw a football on the ground and make 2 players fight each other to cover it up. Seen that happen in a Dragon game recently?
* Run a QB option drill that results in a pitch to the trailing back.
* Go under center, take a snap and sneak it behind your best guard for one yard.
I know we do some of these already but we need more work...
Welcome back GreenDay - we missed you! So how was Vegas? and how does it feel to be almost 51?:D
dragonbuck
11-04-2008, 04:08 PM
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DragonFan0316
11-04-2008, 04:20 PM
You all know I'm a little removed from the day to day movements of the program. Something I've not seen seriously discussed has been the struggles of our defense over the last month. Specifically how it contrasts to the utter dominance they displayed early. Our predistrict schedule was the best we've played in years, even minus the NS game, so the numbers weren't "artificial". I know we've been dinged but has injury been the issue? I'm wondering what the problem is perceived to be by those that are able to attend every week. If we can keep this to strictly football, let's discuss. If you have other opinions, please pm me. Thanks!
I think we are vulnerable to a big and athletic o-line. Our middle guys are a tad small for defensive tackles and #32 was coming off an injury. Not 100% I assure you. Safties and corners were making a lot of tackles. When the safties play up and the guy with the ball breaks into the secondary he is gone. We have some big guys on the sideline and sub-varsity. Now they don't fit the prototypical small but quick mold we have. They can tie up blockers though. I recommend we put them in when we play this type of line. Just my opinion.
We have had injuries or missing folks that started the season. As you know, nothing we can do there. We must adjust to make it past these type of teams to go deep or win state. The other thing we need is an offense that can keep up with a struggling defense. Our QB is getting better every week. We were in the Hebron game until the goal line stand.
This is the way I see it from the stands. I really don't have any inside information and the coaches haven't called on me yet. I will be ready if they need me though.;) I love this team win or lose so I will be there Friday doing what I can. You will know I am there because I have a really big mouth.:)
bleedsgreen
11-04-2008, 04:31 PM
You all know I'm a little removed from the day to day movements of the program. Something I've not seen seriously discussed has been the struggles of our defense over the last month. Specifically how it contrasts to the utter dominance they displayed early. Our predistrict schedule was the best we've played in years, even minus the NS game, so the numbers weren't "artificial". I know we've been dinged but has injury been the issue? I'm wondering what the problem is perceived to be by those that are able to attend every week. If we can keep this to strictly football, let's discuss. If you have other opinions, please pm me. Thanks!
We could have won this game against a very good Hebron team. We very well could have went in at half 21-16 us, but we dropped the ball. In the third quarter we had a sorry punt that went out at the 45 and they scored to go ahead 23-14. In the fourth down 30-28 still could have won, the two long drives did us in. Result 44-28. We had 2-3 people that continually could not tackle. They ran the same play over and over. Our defense is to predictable, we must run more stunts with our defensive ends. Our tackles need to get up on the ball and both should not be in the A gap at the same time, to easy to angle block.
These young men will come together this week and the week's to come, I expect to be playing the week of Thanksgiving and playing Hebron again.
Sorry for the long post!
SLCbacker
11-04-2008, 05:17 PM
Stop by my black F-150 with the American flag on it along the grass. I'll be out early.
Sounds good Bkr! We'll see you there. Can't wait for Friday!
Drgnlady
11-04-2008, 07:43 PM
Those two schools have traditionally been football powers for many years. Do the California cities and/or communities not support their teams as they do here? You would think that for those two well known and traditionally good teams, there would be a large fan base and support.
I'm just curious.
Aren't Mater Dei and De La Salle private schools? That would explain the lack of community support. I think you need to look at a town like Mission Viejo to compare.
drgnbkr
11-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Aren't Mater Dei and De La Salle private schools? That would explain the lack of community support. I think you need to look at a town like Mission Viejo to compare.
That is where our soph QB I think it is is from...Namdar. Lets ask him!
toonman
11-04-2008, 11:06 PM
Before we Carroll fans worry about who we shall meet in the playoffs, our primary concern had damn well better be winning Friday night's game against Lewisville. The time to worry further about playoffs does not commence until somewhere around 10:00pm Friday night. :o
10:30pm - Carroll home games rarely finish before 10:00pm.
DrEdward
11-04-2008, 11:23 PM
As long as we are in a Carroll Dragons thread, the girls swept Northwest tonight in volleyball in the first round of the playoffs. Congratulation sot he the girls. If you haven't come out to watch them, you really should try to do so. They are fun to watch.
HebronHawk
11-05-2008, 06:47 AM
Congratulations to the Dragon girls! May they go far in the playoffs to give the Dragons a team to support in late November. :D
SLC93
11-05-2008, 07:08 AM
We could have won this game against a very good Hebron team. We very well could have went in at half 21-16 us, but we dropped the ball. In the third quarter we had a sorry punt that went out at the 45 and they scored to go ahead 23-14. In the fourth down 30-28 still could have won, the two long drives did us in. Result 44-28. We had 2-3 people that continually could not tackle. They ran the same play over and over. Our defense is to predictable, we must run more stunts with our defensive ends. Our tackles need to get up on the ball and both should not be in the A gap at the same time, to easy to angle block.
These young men will come together this week and the week's to come, I expect to be playing the week of Thanksgiving and playing Hebron again.
Sorry for the long post!
With regards to the Hebron game, that one was abit of a heartbreaker. There were many opportunities that were not seized. Credit the Hawks for most of those, as they played very well. It's a fine line between being average and good and a small step from being good to being great. I am on their side, too, and would love a second shot at Hebron. If we can stay together and correct a few things we can get there.
SLC93
11-05-2008, 07:15 AM
Aren't Mater Dei and De La Salle private schools? That would explain the lack of community support. I think you need to look at a town like Mission Viejo to compare.
Both are private schools but are quite different. DLS is a small, Catholic school with an enrollment of around 1000. Mater Dei is a large, Catholic school with an enrollment closer to 2600. Both have great support but it is on a much smaller scale, as you mentioned. It's different when you do not have an entire town behind you. Having watched some games on tv that included programs like Long Beach Poly and Mission Viejo, I can say I'm largely unimpressed with the size of both crowd and facility. It's just not the same as you see here. The football is good but the overall event is subpar by comparison.
SLC93
11-05-2008, 07:16 AM
As long as we are in a Carroll Dragons thread, the girls swept Northwest tonight in volleyball in the first round of the playoffs. Congratulation sot he the girls. If you haven't come out to watch them, you really should try to do so. They are fun to watch.
Protecting the Tradition is everyone's responsibility. The girls have been doing their part, too. Congrats!:notworthy
Drgnlady
11-05-2008, 09:42 AM
That is where our soph QB I think it is is from...Namdar. Lets ask him!
From Mission Viejo? Cool. See you Friday.:)
TulsaHale74
11-05-2008, 10:11 AM
As long as we are in a Carroll Dragons thread, the girls swept Northwest tonight in volleyball in the first round of the playoffs. Congratulation sot he the girls. If you haven't come out to watch them, you really should try to do so. They are fun to watch.
An interesting sidenote about Volleyball is an issue discussed on here lately. Carroll, Coppell, and Marcus all tied for the district championship. That meant a coin flip was used to decide playoff seeds for the three teams. In 5-5A Keller Central and Keller tied for second and had a coin flip to decide the seeding.
Football people don't seem to like the coin flip but I didn't see any argument against it on 5Atexasvolleyball.com,;)
SLC93
11-05-2008, 10:21 AM
An interesting sidenote about Volleyball is an issue discussed on here lately. Carroll, Coppell, and Marcus all tied for the district championship. That meant a coin flip was used to decide playoff seeds for the three teams. In 5-5A Keller Central and Keller tied for second and had a coin flip to decide the seeding.
Football people don't seem to like the coin flip but I didn't see any argument against it on 5Atexasvolleyball.com,;)
:D:D:D
As long as we are in a Carroll Dragons thread, the girls swept Northwest tonight in volleyball in the first round of the playoffs. Congratulation sot he the girls. If you haven't come out to watch them, you really should try to do so. They are fun to watch.
Absolutely Doc...ALL Carroll teams are allowed in our thread... Discuss as you wish... And congraduations to those young ladies...:)
drgnbkr
11-05-2008, 10:41 AM
From Mission Viejo? Cool. See you Friday.:)
Wouldn't miss it! You and F are welcome at the tailgate you know...:p
Hey Carroll fans... Our good friend Pinion has a poll in the Yard area.. He is to pick a team to support... His choices are Abilene, Judson, or Carroll.. I figured since he already come to our thread and jokes around with us, we might as well vote for him to support us to.. plus its all in fun anyway..
So go to the thread in the yard and select Carroll from the poll and leave a comment telling him why...lets let him support the team he has been picking against..
Here is the thread link to make it easy.....
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=39186
SLC13
11-05-2008, 12:59 PM
As long as we are in a Carroll Dragons thread, the girls swept Northwest tonight in volleyball in the first round of the playoffs. Congratulation sot he the girls. If you haven't come out to watch them, you really should try to do so. They are fun to watch.Congratulations to the girls on their convincing win over NW!! :notworthy:notworthy Their next match is against Plano, date & time TBD.....
In an interesting side note, all the 6-5A teams won their bi-district matches against 5-5A. 8-5A also swept their matches against 7-5A. This sets up a rare 2nd round group of district vs. district matches; with the 6-5A teams all facing 8-5A.
Good luck to the Lady Dragons and all the 6-5A V-ball teams in their upcoming matches!! :)
farmerfan
11-05-2008, 01:17 PM
That is indeed impressive about all the 6-5A V-ball teams winning to advance to the second round against 8-5A.
Basketball starts in 4 days for us. Will be nice to get the head start ;)
Who all is going to be at backers tailgate?
dragonpants
11-05-2008, 01:31 PM
That is indeed impressive about all the 6-5A V-ball teams winning to advance to the second round against 8-5A.
Basketball starts in 4 days for us. Will be nice to get the head start ;)
Who all is going to be at backers tailgate?
I will be there again. :D
SLCfan2407
11-05-2008, 01:37 PM
our vball girls continue to roll on...
they play again on thursday against Plano High at Coppell at 5:30
I am hoping these girls can get a big turn out, they deserve it!
Good luck on thursday girls! and Good luck to our boys on Friday! We are behind all of you!
drgnbkr
11-05-2008, 02:00 PM
That is indeed impressive about all the 6-5A V-ball teams winning to advance to the second round against 8-5A.
Basketball starts in 4 days for us. Will be nice to get the head start ;)
Who all is going to be at backers tailgate?
Sarah Palin has agreed to stop off on her way back to Alaska..:p
TulsaHale74
11-05-2008, 02:10 PM
Sarah Palin has agreed to stop off on her way back to Alaska..:p
..only if she leaves Neiman Marcus in time.
Can you afford to feed her SS contingent?:)
drgnbkr
11-05-2008, 02:25 PM
..only if she leaves Neiman Marcus in time.
Can you afford to feed her SS contingent?:)
I think Obama pulled them off and said if she can kill a moose she can protect herself..
SLC93
11-05-2008, 02:40 PM
I think Obama pulled them off and said if she can kill a moose she can protect herself..
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
farmerfan
11-05-2008, 03:05 PM
Farmer will be at the tailgate.
Come by to introduce yourself or just say Go To Hell Farmer.
I don't care.
Heck, break my legs if you'd like.
I turn halfway to 54 this Sunday so you can bring me beer or any other form of alcohol as a presant.
Thanks.
Go Farmers and after this week Go Dragons and 6-5A.
HebronHawk
11-05-2008, 03:33 PM
I think Obama pulled them off and said if she can kill a moose she can protect herself..
She can probably protect herself better than Obama can.:D
He doesn't know which end of the gun to hold before he confiscates it.
toonman
11-05-2008, 04:00 PM
.........It's a fine line between being average and good and a small step from being good to being great. I am on their side, too, and would love a second shot at Hebron. If we can stay together and correct a few things we can get there.
I agree and it will be great if there is a rematch against the Hawks. I feel that this year's team need to cross that fine, but it not a small step as you suggest. I think it is a big step to go from being good to great and I hope these Dragons have big shoes with which to take a giant step from being average today to being great tomorrow in a reamtch against the Hawks.
drgnbkr
11-05-2008, 04:16 PM
I agree and it will be great if there is a rematch against the Hawks. I feel that this year's team need to cross that fine, but it not a small step as you suggest. I think it is a big step to go from being good to great and I hope these Dragons have big shoes with which to take a giant step from being average today to being great tomorrow in a reamtch against the Hawks.
If a rematch with the Hawks were to happen, it wouldn't be until the 4th round it appears. Plenty of time for the D to reaquaint themselves with the art of the tackle, Padron to get his fitness and timing back.
DrEdward
11-05-2008, 04:40 PM
Congratulations to the Dragon girls! May they go far in the playoffs to give the Dragons a team to support in late November. :D
That's two. :cool:
drgnbkr
11-05-2008, 04:51 PM
That's two. :cool:
Maybe 3 ..Cross Country will still be around for a while as they move toward state.
If a rematch with the Hawks were to happen, it wouldn't be until the 4th round it appears. Plenty of time for the D to reaquaint themselves with the art of the tackle, Padron to get his fitness and timing back.
I agree completely... The hope is we begin this week..:)
Hey Carroll fans... Our good friend Pinion has a poll in the Yard area.. He is to pick a team to support... His choices are Abilene, Judson, or Carroll.. I figured since he already come to our thread and jokes around with us, we might as well vote for him to support us to.. plus its all in fun anyway..
So go to the thread in the yard and select Carroll from the poll and leave a comment telling him why...lets let him support the team he has been picking against..
Here is the thread link to make it easy.....
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=39186
Bump...^^^^^ Lets turn Pinion into a green kool aide drinker...^^^^^^
farmerfan
11-05-2008, 06:05 PM
I agree completely... The hope is we begin this week..:)
Don't get false hope from what you see this week.
We haven't exactly been lighting scoreboards up here of late.
Don't get false hope from what you see this week.
We haven't exactly been lighting scoreboards up here of late.
Believe me, I know with our team anything can hapen, including a loss..:eek:
15Adragon
11-05-2008, 07:04 PM
She can probably protect herself better than Obama can.:D
He doesn't know which end of the gun to hold before he confiscates it.
I hear the attendance at the gun shows is way up! :eek:
15Adragon
11-05-2008, 07:12 PM
I agree and it will be great if there is a rematch against the Hawks. I feel that this year's team need to cross that fine, but it not a small step as you suggest. I think it is a big step to go from being good to great and I hope these Dragons have big shoes with which to take a giant step from being average today to being great tomorrow in a reamtch against the Hawks.
Based on what I saw in the PW, Arl, and Katy CR games this team can step up and get back in the game. We gave up what 1 TD per game. We fumbled the opening KO in PW and held them to 3 until late in the game. Arl has been putting up solid #'s all season. CR's only loss is to SLC. We have played 3 bad road games in our district. We have totally dominated our apponents at home. I am hopeful that we can just get back to the basics (and pull 1 safety back against running teams - see I'm trying not to armchair but it is tough) and eliminate the big plays we will have a chance against anybody. The O isn't where it was but it is a WIP and will continue to improve. I'm getting fired up and I can't suit up so I better stop. ;)
HebronHawk
11-05-2008, 07:13 PM
That's two. :cool:
I'd better stop now. :D
DrEdward
11-05-2008, 11:55 PM
I'd better stop now. :D
It would be appreciated.:D
TulsaHale74
11-06-2008, 12:19 AM
Saw this on Scout.com from 10/29.
New Orleans Saints Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis announced Tuesday that the club has signed free agent kicker Garrett Hartley after a tryout at the team’s practice facility earlier in the day.
“We conducted an audition this afternoon for punters and kickers in an effort to boast our special teams play,” said Loomis. “We were impressed with Garrett throughout the competitive sessions and we will continue to evaluate the positions closely throughout the remainder of the season.”
Hartley is a rookie kicker who signed with the Denver Broncos out of the University of Oklahoma in April. He was released by Denver prior to training camp. A two-time second-team All-Big 12 Conference selection, the 5-foot-8, 196-pound native of Southlake, Texas, played in 43 career games for the Sooners and was successful on 47 of 58 field goals and went 169-for-176 on extra points. The right-footed kicker kicked a career-long 53-yard field goal in his senior season.
DrEdward
11-06-2008, 12:44 AM
Saw this on Scout.com from 10/29.
New Orleans Saints Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis announced Tuesday that the club has signed free agent kicker Garrett Hartley after a tryout at the team’s practice facility earlier in the day.........
Thanks for the info. Good luck to Garrett this time around.
CCCSportsFan
11-06-2008, 07:49 AM
During his time at SLC part of the thrill when we'd score a touchdown was knowing you'd get to watch Garrett kick off. There were several times he was close to putting the kick off over the dress room building at the back of the end zone!
drgnbkr
11-06-2008, 08:13 AM
I wonder how many high schools can brag about 2 kickers in the NFL at the same time. Carroll has Kris Brown of the Texans, QB & PK of our 93 State champs, and Hartley.
CCCSportsFan
11-06-2008, 08:20 AM
Great point Bkr....
LAHawk
11-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Congrats to Garrett, hope he makes it. It's always good to see local guys go on and be productive in the pros, even if they did wear the dreaded green and then crimson. I don't know which one is worse. :D
SLC13
11-06-2008, 09:01 AM
Congrats to Garrett, hope he makes it. It's always good to see local guys go on and be production in the pros, even if they did wear the dreaded green and then crimson. I don't know which one is worse. :D
crimson
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 09:03 AM
crimson
+1
DrEdward
11-06-2008, 10:28 AM
crimson
+ TIDE = Alabama
Roll Tide
Drgnlady
11-06-2008, 10:37 AM
Wouldn't miss it! You and F are welcome at the tailgate you know...:p
Thanks Bkr! I'll see if I can drag my workaholic hubby away from his desk in time to tailgate. I start pacing around 4:00 on Friday afternoons. I can always use something to distract me...:)
dragonpants
11-06-2008, 10:46 AM
Based on what I saw in the PW, Arl, and Katy CR games this team can step up and get back in the game. We gave up what 1 TD per game. We fumbled the opening KO in PW and held them to 3 until late in the game. Arl has been putting up solid #'s all season. CR's only loss is to SLC. We have played 3 bad road games in our district. We have totally dominated our apponents at home. I am hopeful that we can just get back to the basics (and pull 1 safety back against running teams - see I'm trying not to armchair but it is tough) and eliminate the big plays we will have a chance against anybody. The O isn't where it was but it is a WIP and will continue to improve. I'm getting fired up and I can't suit up so I better stop. ;)
Not to get ahead of myself but TS is our second home :D. Only one team has won more games at Texas Stadium than Carroll.
DragonFan0316
11-06-2008, 10:59 AM
I wonder how many high schools can brag about 2 kickers in the NFL at the same time. Carroll has Kris Brown of the Texans, QB & PK of our 93 State champs, and Hartley.
Where is Hartley? Lost track of him when Broncos cut him.
drgnbkr
11-06-2008, 11:02 AM
Where is Hartley? Lost track of him when Broncos cut him.
Back a few posts it was said that the Saints have picked him up.
DragonFan0316
11-06-2008, 11:10 AM
In case you haven't heard the DMN says we are in the playoffs officially. We will face Heritage. I am sure this is old news to most but wanted to pass it a long.:)
SLC93
11-06-2008, 11:16 AM
+ TIDE = Alabama
Roll Tide
aka Satan's Lair:D
SLC93
11-06-2008, 11:18 AM
Not to get ahead of myself but TS is our second home :D. Only one team has won more games at Texas Stadium than Carroll.
True. Who was there for the first win by Carroll at TS & can you name it?
farmerfan
11-06-2008, 11:20 AM
True. Who was there for the first win by Carroll at TS & can you name it?
I can name the year and team but I wasn't there.
I'll let a Carroll poster get the glory on this.
I do know it was the passing of the torch from one power to the new power in 3A.
LAHawk
11-06-2008, 11:24 AM
Not to get ahead of myself but TS is our second home :D. Only one team has won more games at Texas Stadium than Carroll.
Would that be the Redskins or Giants? :D
SLC93
11-06-2008, 11:27 AM
I can name the year and team but I wasn't there.
I'll let a Carroll poster get the glory on this.
I do know it was the passing of the torch from one power to the new power in 3A.
My man. I know you're not bluffing because you stated the significance without being asked.;)
DragonFan0316
11-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Okay, maybe I am in denial but here is the way I see the defense. We struggle against big athletic o-lines. We do not struggle against the pass since Shawn Hoagland showed up to complement Kacy Rodgers. Unless you specialize in running we will dog you and shut you down.
In the Hebron game we were in it until late in the 4th. Our offense doesn't score like it did with Padro but DP is getting better. Coppell was an eery night. They wanted us bad. The defense gave up 57 points but was put in several bad field positions because of poor special teams plays or turnovers. And it took double overtime to beat us.
All I am saying to Dragon fans is we still have a damn good football team. I don't care what outsiders think but I would want to kick this Dragon unless I was sure it was already dead.
toonman
11-06-2008, 11:44 AM
My man. I know you're not bluffing because you stated the significance without being asked.;)
I know a lot of Dragon Trivia, but this one has me beat.
DrEdward
11-06-2008, 11:45 AM
True. Who was there for the first win by Carroll at TS & can you name it?
Have the Dragons ever played at Texas Stadium? :rolleyes: I seem to remember someplace called Pennington as our home away from home. ;)
And by the way, I think the answer is Dangerfield.
Saw this on Scout.com from 10/29.
New Orleans Saints Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis announced Tuesday that the club has signed free agent kicker Garrett Hartley after a tryout at the team’s practice facility earlier in the day.
“We conducted an audition this afternoon for punters and kickers in an effort to boast our special teams play,” said Loomis. “We were impressed with Garrett throughout the competitive sessions and we will continue to evaluate the positions closely throughout the remainder of the season.”
Hartley is a rookie kicker who signed with the Denver Broncos out of the University of Oklahoma in April. He was released by Denver prior to training camp. A two-time second-team All-Big 12 Conference selection, the 5-foot-8, 196-pound native of Southlake, Texas, played in 43 career games for the Sooners and was successful on 47 of 58 field goals and went 169-for-176 on extra points. The right-footed kicker kicked a career-long 53-yard field goal in his senior season.
Great info Hale.. Thanks for the update.. And good luck to that young man..
+ TIDE = Alabama
Roll Tide
No.. DONT roll tide...
And wouldnt that be close enough to VT colors anyway Doc?...:D
dragonpants
11-06-2008, 11:53 AM
No.. DONT roll tide...
And wouldnt that be close enough to VT colors anyway Doc?...:D
I think it would be cool for McElroy to inherit the job as starter QB after Alabama wins a national championship.
Next year we will get to see McElroy against Benoist who is having a great season and was the SEC player of the week in week one.
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 11:59 AM
Okay, maybe I am in denial but here is the way I see the defense. We struggle against big athletic o-lines. We do not struggle against the pass since Shawn Hoagland showed up to complement Kacy Rodgers. Unless you specialize in running we will dog you and shut you down.
In the Hebron game we were in it until late in the 4th. Our offense doesn't score like it did with Padro but DP is getting better. Coppell was an eery night. They wanted us bad. The defense gave up 57 points but was put in several bad field positions because of poor special teams plays or turnovers. And it took double overtime to beat us.
All I am saying to Dragon fans is we still have a damn good football team. I don't care what outsiders think but I would want to kick this Dragon unless I was sure it was already dead.
Agreed. But I am somewhat enjoying the "underdog" status for once, and numerous folks are counting us as 1 and out in the p/o, perhaps giving us a bit more incentive. ;) (Don't forget we have Lewisville first. Must take care of bidness there). It could happen (the 1 and out), we should never take CHHS lightly and they will really want this one. But the matchup should be more favorable that say Hebron or AHS.
That said, the team has shown flashes of brilliance as you noted. And the losses have in some ways been good for us in that we have learned we are not invincible, we can actually lose a game. or even two. And we can learn that a two loss team can go far if we understand the losses. The only concern I have is that, unlike Katy who has continued to improve over the season, we have been spotty. I would absolutely love to have a 2 loss Katy playing a 2 loss Carroll for state, both with young teams and great programs. But that is way ahead of myself.
Lewisville.
Then Colleyville.
We don't look any further than that.
True. Who was there for the first win by Carroll at TS & can you name it?
I wasnt there... But was it Carroll vs Dangerfield in 88?
I think it would be cool for McElroy to inherit the job as starter QB after Alabama wins a national championship.
Next year we will get to see McElroy against Benoist who is having a great season and was the SEC player of the week in week one.
There will be NO Bama NC... There is still hope for my Horns baby...:D
Alright Dragon nation, we have a new fan aboard the Carroll Dragon Express.. His name is Pinion and we won him in the poll he was holding in the yard.. I've got his info and he will likely be attending the first playoff game at Texas Stadium next Saturday.. So lets all give Pinion a nice Carroll welcome.. And lets all plan on a big tailgate at Texas Stadium so we can all meet and greet with Pinion and others..
DrEdward
11-06-2008, 12:10 PM
I wasnt there... But was it Carroll vs Dangerfield in 88?
Yes it was. They came back to beat the Dragons the following year in the playoffs at Rockwall. That was the first game I ever saw Carroll loose. :Censor:
Yes it was. They came back to beat the Dragons the following year in the playoffs at Rockwall. That was the first game I ever saw Carroll loose. :Censor:
I think the year Carroll beat them they were #1.... and the Dragons smashed them... And wasnt the following year Carroll #1 when they beat us?.. But it was much closer I think..
SLC93
11-06-2008, 12:20 PM
Have the Dragons ever played at Texas Stadium? :rolleyes: I seem to remember someplace called Pennington as our home away from home. ;)
And by the way, I think the answer is Dangerfield.
Pennington was the original Texas Stadium for Carroll fans. Many of our firsts were secured there. The first heartbreak that was the 1987 loss to McGregor ran even deeper than the Abilene loss last season, I assure you. The first birth to a title game was secured there the following season with victory over Decatur. Love runs deep for Pennington. Should have disqualified the good Doc on this one. Carroll played it's first game at Texas Stadium against the mighty Daingerfield in November of 1988. The Tigers were it in 3A before Carroll exploded onto the scene. They had owned the 80's. They were also the top ranked team in the state. Few thought that Carroll would be up to the challenge. Things were decided quickly in this third round matchup. We exploded onto the scene with a 42-13 victory that wasn't even that close. This victory was really the defining moment for our eventual run in 3A.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 12:21 PM
I wasnt there... But was it Carroll vs Dangerfield in 88?
True.
DrEdward
11-06-2008, 12:21 PM
I think the year Carroll beat them they were #1.... and the Dragons smashed them... And wasnt the following year Carroll #1 when they beat us?.. But it was much closer I think..
Carroll beat Dangerfield in Texas Stadium somewhere along the lines of 44-12 in 1988. In the '89 game, as I recall, the game came down to the final play before Carroll lost. But I don't recall the score (probably on purpose.)
SLC93
11-06-2008, 12:22 PM
There will be NO Bama NC... There is still hope for my Horns baby...:D
Bama will come up short. Penn State will be lept over. Texas & Oklahoma, part II? Perhaps, as long as Florida falls off.
toonman
11-06-2008, 12:24 PM
Carroll beat Dangerfield in Texas Stadium somewhere along the lines of 44-12 in 1988.
Very close on the score. It was actually 44-13 in the 1988 game and a reversal in 1989 of 13-19.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 12:26 PM
Yes it was. They came back to beat the Dragons the following year in the playoffs at Rockwall. That was the first game I ever saw Carroll loose. :Censor:
A 19-13 defeat that haunts me to this day. Anyone know the significance of this loss?
SLC93
11-06-2008, 12:33 PM
I think the year Carroll beat them they were #1.... and the Dragons smashed them... And wasnt the following year Carroll #1 when they beat us?.. But it was much closer I think..
Yes, yes and yes. We were top ranked but, to be fair, we were over ranked that year. The team was primarily juniors and the team was not near the beasts of 87 & 88. The game was very close and was decided, ultimately, when we ran out of time. A couple of key near plays by underclassmen cost us that game but Daingerfield played a great, great defensive game.
15Adragon
11-06-2008, 12:38 PM
Okay, maybe I am in denial but here is the way I see the defense. We struggle against big athletic o-lines. We do not struggle against the pass since Shawn Hoagland showed up to complement Kacy Rodgers. Unless you specialize in running we will dog you and shut you down.
In the Hebron game we were in it until late in the 4th. Our offense doesn't score like it did with Padro but DP is getting better. Coppell was an eery night. They wanted us bad. The defense gave up 57 points but was put in several bad field positions because of poor special teams plays or turnovers. And it took double overtime to beat us.
All I am saying to Dragon fans is we still have a damn good football team. I don't care what outsiders think but I would want to kick this Dragon unless I was sure it was already dead.
They really can be a great football team. They just need that break through game or moment where they made the key play at the right moment in a PO game. They are 1-2 in close games and 5 typical SLC poundings. All 3 close games were on the road with teams that were really ready to bring "the kitchen sink" in terms of effort and committment. Rumor has it 1 team even spent the night on the field after the game and had t-shirts printed with the score. It is a good thing to be getting the "kitchen sink" every week, but maybe we will start bringing the "rest of the kitchen" to the party.;)
SLC93
11-06-2008, 12:39 PM
They really can be a great football team. They just need that break through game or moment where they made the key play at the right moment in a PO game. They are 1-2 in close games and 5 typical SLC poundings. All 3 close games were on the road with teams that were really ready to bring "the kitchen sink" in terms of effort and committment. Rumor has it 1 team even spent the night on the field after the game and had t-shirts printed with the score. It is a good thing to be getting the "kitchen sink" every week, but maybe we will start bringing the "rest of the kitchen" to the party.;)
Spot on.:notworthy
15Adragon
11-06-2008, 12:47 PM
In case you haven't heard the DMN says we are in the playoffs officially. We will face Heritage. I am sure this is old news to most but wanted to pass it a long.:)
Is this true? If so, then we need to make sure and not let any of our players go to mexico for the weekend. :eek:
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 12:54 PM
They really can be a great football team. They just need that break through game or moment where they made the key play at the right moment in a PO game. They are 1-2 in close games and 5 typical SLC poundings. All 3 close games were on the road with teams that were really ready to bring "the kitchen sink" in terms of effort and committment. Rumor has it 1 team even spent the night on the field after the game and had t-shirts printed with the score. It is a good thing to be getting the "kitchen sink" every week, but maybe we will start bringing the "rest of the kitchen" to the party.;)
Just remember, Lewisville and especially Colleyville will bring the kitchen sink as well. Lewisville has nothing to lose and everything to win, a dangerous situation. And Colleyville will really want to get past us in a year everyone sees us as vulnerable. They will bring the sink, garbage disposal, plumbing, dishwasher, etc.
I agree we are tantalizingly close. But we have to focus JUST LIKE THOSE TEAMS and we have to want it JUST AS MUCH. Colleyville will want their first ever victory over the Dragons.
trojanbacker
11-06-2008, 01:03 PM
Speaking of Pennington, if you're ever up in the press box there, there is a wall covered with plaques recognizing various playoff games held there over the years. Many of them have SLC on them.
trojanbacker
11-06-2008, 01:04 PM
CHHS will bring all those things you mentioned along with a pretty darned good quarterback.
CSRadioGuy
11-06-2008, 01:07 PM
Speaking of Pennington, if you're ever up in the press box there, there is a wall covered with plaques recognizing various playoff games held there over the years. Many of them have SLC on them.
It's one of the better press boxes in the area, especially considering it's age. (plus, you can never go wrong with good press box catering -- I won't say where it's from but it's somewhere very close to the stadium that is very tasty) Northwest takes the cake so far though, although I'm willing to bet Carroll Dragon and Birdville give it a run for it's money as far as the latest technology and a good broadcast setup. I'm such a nerd.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 01:08 PM
A 19-13 defeat that haunts me to this day. Anyone know the significance of this loss?
Going once?
CSRadioGuy
11-06-2008, 01:11 PM
Going once?
Dude, I didn't know the difference between a cover-2 man and cover-2 zone at the time so I have no idea. (I was only 10) I am interested to hear, though.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 01:18 PM
Dude, I didn't know the difference between a cover-2 man and cover-2 zone at the time so I have no idea. (I was only 10) I am interested to hear, though.
Fair enough. The loss to Daingerfield in 1989 has two interesting tidbits attached to it. The first would be that 1989 would be the only year from 1987-1993 that Carroll failed to win it's region and advance to the semifinal round, at least. Second, the 13 points Daingerfield held us to is the second lowest Carroll was held to while in 3A. Anyone know the lowest?
For the record, I just am not interested in work today. Hence the historic trivia!:D
CSRadioGuy
11-06-2008, 01:22 PM
Fair enough. The loss to Daingerfield in 1989 has two interesting tidbits attached to it. The first would be that 1989 would be the only year from 1987-1993 that Carroll failed to win it's region and advance to the semifinal round, at least. Second, the 13 points Daingerfield held us to is the second lowest Carroll was held to while in 3A. Anyone know the lowest?
For the record, I just am not interested in work today. Hence the historic trivia!:D
Haha, right on. I understand competely. You're not bothering me. I eat this kind of stuff up.
DrEdward
11-06-2008, 01:24 PM
Going once?
Yeah, it was the first one I had ever encountered as a Dragon fan. But you probably have something a bit more important in mind.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 01:28 PM
Yeah, it was the first one I had ever encountered as a Dragon fan. But you probably have something a bit more important in mind.
In addition to the above listed facts, the loss in 89 marked the end of the longest win streak in Dragon history, to that point, at 26 games. We would later go on to have a 46-0-1 record from 91-93, including the last 32 in a row.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 01:29 PM
Bacl to present day I propose that a 7 game winning streak that begins this Friday would be as sweet as the rest of the noted streaks.:D:cool:
toonman
11-06-2008, 01:35 PM
Bacl to present day I propose that a 7 game winning streak that begins this Friday would be as sweet as the rest of the noted streaks.:D:cool:
With all 7 games played in 2008. Do not forget that bit.
toonman
11-06-2008, 01:37 PM
....the 13 points Daingerfield held us to is the second lowest Carroll was held to while in 3A. Anyone know the lowest?
Would that be the 7 scored on Springtown in 1986?
SLC93
11-06-2008, 01:44 PM
Would that be the 7 scored on Springtown in 1986?
That would be incorrect but your info on the Springtown game requires an update to my post.(Can't believe I missed that one!:mad:) The 7 Springtown held us to in 1986 was, in fact, the second lowest total we were ever held to in 3A and only the 3rd time we failed to score double digits. So that makes the 13 points the 3rd lowest total. Sorry. Still the lowest total is not in dispute. Anyone know the total and the team that held us to it?
toonman
11-06-2008, 01:48 PM
That would be incorrect but your info on the Springtown game requires an update to my post.(Can't believe I missed that one!:mad:) The 7 Springtown held us to in 1986 was, in fact, the second lowest total we were ever held to in 3A and only the 2nd time we failed to score double digits. So that makes the 13 points the 3rd lowest total. Sorry. Still the lowest total is not in dispute. Anyone know the total and the team that held us to it?
I forgot about the 7-7 tie with Burnett in 1991, which we lost on penetrations - I think.
toonman
11-06-2008, 01:50 PM
That would be incorrect but your info on the Springtown game requires an update to my post.(Can't believe I missed that one!:mad:) The 7 Springtown held us to in 1986 was, in fact, the second lowest total we were ever held to in 3A and only the 2nd time we failed to score double digits. So that makes the 13 points the 3rd lowest total. Sorry. Still the lowest total is not in dispute. Anyone know the total and the team that held us to it?
Got it - the 6 we scored against Vernon.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 02:05 PM
Got it - the 6 we scored against Vernon.
Yup. In the 1990 semifinals, the Vernon Lions held us to 6 points. They were held to 11 themseves with 6 coming on the only big play of the game, a long run down the sideline in the first quarter, I believe.
1) 6 Points - Vernon - semifinal game
2) a - 7 points- Springtown - district game
b - 7 points - Burnet - semifinal game
3) a - 13 points - Frisco - first game in 3A - only one of these five that was a win.
b - 13 points - Daingerfield - 3rd round p/o
SLC93
11-06-2008, 02:07 PM
I forgot about the 7-7 tie with Burnett in 1991, which we lost on penetrations - I think.
That game :Censor: me off to this very day. They played to tie and we just couldn't shake them. Although there was some controversy as to whether or not their extra point was actually good.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 02:10 PM
New motto for this year's playoff run:
It takes 6 to get 8.
toonman
11-06-2008, 02:12 PM
New motto for this year's playoff run:
It takes 6 to get 8.
Good one - I like it.
It's one of the better press boxes in the area, especially considering it's age. (plus, you can never go wrong with good press box catering -- I won't say where it's from but it's somewhere very close to the stadium that is very tasty) Northwest takes the cake so far though, although I'm willing to bet Carroll Dragon and Birdville give it a run for it's money as far as the latest technology and a good broadcast setup. I'm such a nerd.
Justin Northwest ISD is the best high school stadium in the state..
RicosRevenge
11-06-2008, 02:19 PM
Justin Northwest ISD is the best high school stadium in the state..
Damn straight. CC televisions while you wait in the concession line where they have full blown BBQ. Heated bathrooms and a sweet jumbotron.
dragonpants
11-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Damn straight. CC televisions while you wait in the concession line where they have full blown BBQ. Heated bathrooms and a sweet jumbotron.
I want a jumbotron for christmas for Dragon Stadium
15Adragon
11-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Yup. In the 1990 semifinals, the Vernon Lions held us to 6 points. They were held to 11 themseves with 6 coming on the only big play of the game, a long run down the sideline in the first quarter, I believe.
1) 6 Points - Vernon - semifinal game
2) a - 7 points- Springtown - district game
b - 7 points - Burnet - semifinal game
3) a - 13 points - Frisco - first game in 3A - only one of these five that was a win.
b - 13 points - Daingerfield - 3rd round p/o
IMO, that run through 3A was the most dominating football I have ever seen. Teams would let the clock run for most of the second half in order to get the game over. The way we ran the 'bone was a thing of beauty. We ran this counter and the HB would be off to the races. :cool:
SLC93
11-06-2008, 02:58 PM
I want a jumbotron for christmas for Dragon Stadium
I'd like a jumbotron, to scale, for my bedroom. Bomchickawawa!:D
CSRadioGuy
11-06-2008, 03:11 PM
I'd like a jumbotron, to scale, for my bedroom. Bomchickawawa!:D
LOL
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 03:13 PM
I'd like a jumbotron, to scale, for my bedroom. Bomchickawawa!:D
without getting too crazy here, do you really need to keep score in your bedroom?;)
SLC93
11-06-2008, 03:13 PM
IMO, that run through 3A was the most dominating football I have ever seen. Teams would let the clock run for most of the second half in order to get the game over. The way we ran the 'bone was a thing of beauty. We ran this counter and the HB would be off to the races. :cool:
In 8 years of 3A football, Carroll went 112-5-1. They won 3 state titles, 6 regional titles and 7 district title. The average score of a Carroll game in those 8 years was 40.03 to 7.47. That's 4,732 points for us and only 881 against in 8 years. We played a nasty brand of defense and flat ran you over on offense. The 1992 team holds the school record for offensive points at 803. That total was on the national top ten list for several years. Ultimately, the 5A run wins out because it produced more titles and had never been done in 5A before but, in many ways, I still think the 3A run is just or more impressive.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 03:15 PM
without getting to crazy here, do you really need to keep score in your bedroom?;)
Not at all. I know what the score is but imagine the replays. Plus, who wouldn't want to fall asleep to dot races and trivia?:eek::D
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 03:17 PM
Not at all. I know what the score is but imagine the replays. Plus, who wouldn't want to fall asleep to dot races and trivia?:eek::D
LOL, replays. got me laughing out loud on that one....
I'm afraid mine would read 0-0 too often.:eek::D:o
SLC93
11-06-2008, 03:26 PM
LOL, replays. got me laughing out loud on that one....
I'm afraid mine would read 0-0 too often.:eek::D:o
:D I hate shutouts!:D
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 03:31 PM
:D I hate shutouts!:D
I like to view it as a 'tie'.;)
SLC93
11-06-2008, 03:34 PM
I like to view it as a 'tie'.;)
This can't be helped and has to be done. I am sorry, kinda.
In a 0-0 tie, the important thing is that you advance on penetrations.:eek::D
Won't happen again.........I think.;)
slcdragonfan
11-06-2008, 03:39 PM
This can't be helped and has to be done. I am sorry, kinda.
In a 0-0 tie, the important thing is that you advance on penetrations.:eek::D
Won't happen again.........I think.;)
You win.:Music
LAHawk
11-06-2008, 03:41 PM
This can't be helped and has to be done. I am sorry, kinda.
In a 0-0 tie, the important thing is that you advance on penetrations.:eek::D
Won't happen again.........I think.;)
:notworthy You're my newest hero, 93.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 03:44 PM
;)
dragonpants
11-06-2008, 03:53 PM
This can't be helped and has to be done. I am sorry, kinda.
In a 0-0 tie, the important thing is that you advance on penetrations.:eek::D
Won't happen again.........I think.;)
In college BYU would win all 0-0 ties:D
dragons08
11-06-2008, 04:08 PM
http://5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=39309
go there.
and VOTE FOR Rockettrn/Dragons08.
Don't ask, just do.
Thank you.
SLC93
11-06-2008, 04:19 PM
You're tied up now, 08.:D
Grapeguy
11-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Ultimately, the 5A run wins out because it produced more titles and had never been done in 5A before but, in many ways, I still think the 3A run is just or more impressive.
Agreed. Remember, no DI/DII split either.
15Adragon
11-06-2008, 05:29 PM
Agreed. Remember, no DI/DII split either.
I think 3A run wins out, barely. There are twice as many champions now. In any case, we comparing incredible runs of excellence. You could make a case either way. 5A is tougher, 3A teams were very dominant, etc...
http://5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=39309
go there.
and VOTE FOR Rockettrn/Dragons08.
Don't ask, just do.
Thank you.
No... dada was rightfully elected President..
drgnbkr
11-06-2008, 08:01 PM
No... dada was rightfully elected President..
So, as it is with obama...it's over?
dragons08
11-06-2008, 10:37 PM
No... dada was rightfully elected President..
-1
dragons08
11-06-2008, 10:37 PM
So, as it is with obama...it's over?
+1
dragons08
11-06-2008, 10:38 PM
So, bkr, you'll be in a black f150, with a american flag along the grass?
around 430?
drgnbkr
11-07-2008, 09:31 PM
So, bkr, you'll be in a black f150, with a american flag along the grass?
around 430?
I was there with Farmerfan..where were ya? We had a decent turnout.
dragons08
11-08-2008, 12:18 AM
I was there with Farmerfan..where were ya? We had a decent turnout.
Had to do yardwork and etc, til about 5ish or so. Then shower and get sexified for the ladies i was about to go hang with. Sorry man. Farmer gave me a call though, I told him to send my love.
dragons08
11-09-2008, 03:40 PM
If we lose to colleyville, yikes man. I'm gonna have to eat A LOT of crow.
genghis
11-09-2008, 05:57 PM
If we lose to colleyville, yikes man. I'm gonna have to eat A LOT of crow.
and you will deserve every mouthful... Even if Colleyville does not win, you have become my new justification to find slc disgusting in its recent arrogance and overbearing stupidity....
Please tell good Dr., since I am sure you are reading this.... were the Dragon fatithful always so full of themselves and boastful? Is that how the Tradition was created? I am willing to bet that the new generation (last 5 years) of supporters has done more to tear down, to tarnish that Tradition than build it up...
I can only be thankful that I am not in the shoes of a Dragon Council Member watching it deteriorate in such a fashion... with the mouth piece of the program being such disrespectful,
arrogant p r i c k s as these young posters...
dragons08
11-09-2008, 06:28 PM
and you will deserve every mouthful... Even if Colleyville does not win, you have become my new justification to find slc disgusting in its recent arrogance and overbearing stupidity....
Please tell good Dr., since I am sure you are reading this.... were the Dragon fatithful always so full of themselves and boastful? Is that how the Tradition was created? I am willing to bet that the new generation (last 5 years) of supporters has done more to tear down, to tarnish that Tradition than build it up...
I can only be thankful that I am not in the shoes of a Dragon Council Member watching it deteriorate in such a fashion... with the mouth piece of the program being such disrespectful,
arrogant p r i c k s as these...
Jealous much? I said I'd eat crow, meaning I would admit being wrong and give "hats off" to colleyville.
Why not you just grow up and stop looking into things way to much?
Plus I've heard enough crap from CH fans, that I can dish some out.
I don't get it, we can get **** talked all day, then when we go to dish some out to the people who **** talk all year, we're suddenly arrogant ****** and blah blah blah.
You sir, are the *****.
yankee
11-09-2008, 06:34 PM
and you will deserve every mouthful... Even if Colleyville does not win, you have become my new justification to find slc disgusting in its recent arrogance and overbearing stupidity....
Please tell good Dr., since I am sure you are reading this.... were the Dragon fatithful always so full of themselves and boastful? Is that how the Tradition was created? I am willing to bet that the new generation (last 5 years) of supporters has done more to tear down, to tarnish that Tradition than build it up...
I can only be thankful that I am not in the shoes of a Dragon Council Member watching it deteriorate in such a fashion... with the mouth piece of the program being such disrespectful,
arrogant p r i c k s as these...
if you try to justify one or two or a few person's comments as a reason for your hate...then you're stupider than i previously thought.
oh and i agree with what d08 says. that is all.
dragons08
11-09-2008, 06:37 PM
if you try to justify one or two or a few person's comments as a reason for your hate...then you're stupider than i previously thought.
oh and i agree with what d08 says. that is all.
this.
genghis
11-09-2008, 06:45 PM
if you try to justify one or two or a few person's comments as a reason for your hate...then you're stupider than i previously thought.
oh and i agree with what d08 says. that is all.
Yes, most any supporter of most any program in the state would be/ should be jealous... of your program's successes on the field.
As far as the two of you... well,
If I were in anyway associated with a program that had the two of you as outspoken and brash supporters, that at the age of 18 thought they were entitled to do anything other than wipe their own a s s e s... Well, I would shut you down.
and yes, I am stupider than you previously thought... I am choosing to climb into the sandbox with the two of you and intend, with severe diligence to spank both of your little hinnies... that is the essence of my stupidity.
Lowering myself to do something that your shamed parents should have done a decade or two ago.:)
slcdragonfan
11-09-2008, 06:51 PM
It would be nice to talk football....
dragons08
11-09-2008, 06:56 PM
Yes, most any supporter of most any program in the state would be/ should be jealous... of your program's successes on the field.
As far as the two of you... well,
If I were in anyway associated with a program that had the two of you as outspoken and brash supporters, that at the age of 18 thought they were entitled to do anything other than wipe their own a s s e s... Well, I would shut you down.
and yes, I am stupider than you previously thought... I am choosing to climb into the sandbox with the two of you and intend, with severe diligence to spank both of your little hinnies... that is the essence of my stupidity.
Lowering myself to do something that your shamed parents should have done a decade or two ago.:)
Wow. Just wow. Let's see 4 years of **** talking from colleyville. Then, when I finally decide to respond, I am suddenly an *******? Wow man, grow up.
Now you're **** talking our parents? That's low, even for you. I respect many programs, I show no respect for CH. I've put up with their antics and just sick of it. How can you even claim my parents did a poor job of raising me?
Ask the people on this board I have met, I was polite to all of them. Random adults always tell my parents how respectful I am, people will tell my managers at work how polite and how I took care of them. Many adults tell me how for someone my age I am very knowledgeable. I have intellectual conversations with adults over very broad subjects.
My parents put me in a great spot to be successful with whatever I want. They taught me many things and many important values in life. I ALREADY am starting to save for MY retirement. I own stock, looking at buying me. They taught me the importance of hard work and how you can't expect people to just give you stuff, you must work for your things. (something America has obviously forgotten). I could sit here all day proving myself to you, but why bother? You're the "low life" scum, you are claiming that yankee and myself are.
You need to retract your statement, to suggest my parents did a bad job of raising me is just ignorant and immature. Maybe you should go back to the "sandbox" and hang with the little kids, who age you act. Grow up, its a rivalry, crap will be spoken.
dragons08
11-09-2008, 06:57 PM
It would be nice to talk football....
To bad the tool can't read thread titles.
He is a Carroll Dragon hater, not fan.
the_phoenix612
11-09-2008, 07:12 PM
Wow. Just wow. Let's see 4 years of **** talking from colleyville. Then, when I finally decide to respond, I am suddenly an *******? Wow man, grow up.
Now you're **** talking our parents? That's low, even for you. I respect many programs, I show no respect for CH. I've put up with their antics and just sick of it. How can you even claim my parents did a poor job of raising me?
Ask the people on this board I have met, I was polite to all of them. Random adults always tell my parents how respectful I am, people will tell my managers at work how polite and how I took care of them. Many adults tell me how for someone my age I am very knowledgeable. I have intellectual conversations with adults over very broad subjects.
My parents put me in a great spot to be successful with whatever I want. They taught me many things and many important values in life. I ALREADY am starting to save for MY retirement. I own stock, looking at buying me. They taught me the importance of hard work and how you can't expect people to just give you stuff, you must work for your things. (something America has obviously forgotten). I could sit here all day proving myself to you, but why bother? You're the "low life" scum, you are claiming that yankee and myself are.
You need to retract your statement, to suggest my parents did a bad job of raising me is just ignorant and immature. Maybe you should go back to the "sandbox" and hang with the little kids, who age you act. Grow up, its a rivalry, crap will be spoken.
lol pwnd
yankee
11-09-2008, 07:13 PM
Yes, most any supporter of most any program in the state would be/ should be jealous... of your program's successes on the field.
As far as the two of you... well,
If I were in anyway associated with a program that had the two of you as outspoken and brash supporters, that at the age of 18 thought they were entitled to do anything other than wipe their own a s s e s... Well, I would shut you down.
and yes, I am stupider than you previously thought... I am choosing to climb into the sandbox with the two of you and intend, with severe diligence to spank both of your little hinnies... that is the essence of my stupidity.
Lowering myself to do something that your shamed parents should have done a decade or two ago.:)
this post is so full of fail it's not even funny. go away, you're not wanted...go back to your chhs fans thread....oh wait...
dragons08
11-09-2008, 07:27 PM
lol pwnd
+1
DrEdward
11-09-2008, 07:28 PM
and you will deserve every mouthful... Even if Colleyville does not win, you have become my new justification to find slc disgusting in its recent arrogance and overbearing stupidity....
Please tell good Dr., since I am sure you are reading this.... were the Dragon fatithful always so full of themselves and boastful? Is that how the Tradition was created? I am willing to bet that the new generation (last 5 years) of supporters has done more to tear down, to tarnish that Tradition than build it up...
I can only be thankful that I am not in the shoes of a Dragon Council Member watching it deteriorate in such a fashion... with the mouth piece of the program being such disrespectful,
arrogant p r i c k s as these...
How did I get dragged into this? There are a handful of Dragon fans who get carried away on line on occasion. (but then I readily admit that I do not always appreciate what a number of 18 and 19 year olds find funny.) That hardly makes the Dragon faithful "full of themselves and boastful" any more than CHHS fans are boors due to the antics of a few. At the same time, all Carroll fans have a well-earned right to be extraordinarily proud of what the Dragons have managed to accomplish over the past twenty years in general and the period since moving up to 5A in particular.
The "tradition" was formed by Carroll's performance on the field and in the classroom. One merely needs to start to count the number of championships that these students have managed to generate over th years to appreciate what they have accomplished. Plus those same students have managed to do quite well, for the most part, in the classroom, consistently placing athletes in the service acadamies, Ivy league schools and other stand-out academic institutions along with many other fine schools (and some not so fine as well.)
As a Council member, I judge the program and its participants as a whole, not by occasional online comments that I might not have made. But then a bunch of folks on here might not readily approve of mine either. Now, the last line of your posting appears that it may have been directed more at me. Are you suggesting that as a fan of Carroll that somehow I am being a disrespectful, arrogant :Censor:?
dragons08
11-09-2008, 07:32 PM
How did I get dragged into this? There are a handful of Dragon fans who get carried away on line on occasion. (but then I readily admit that I do not always appreciate what a number of 18 and 19 year olds find funny.) That hardly makes the Dragon faithful "full of themselves and boastful" and more than al CHHS fans are boors due to the antics of a few. At the same time, all Carroll fans have a well-earned right to be extraordinarily proud of what the Dragons have managed to accomplish over the past twenty years in general and the period since moving up to 5A in particular.
As a Council member, I judge the program and its participants as a whole, not by occasional online comments that I might not have made. But then a bunch of folks on here might not readily approve of mine either. Now, the last line of your posting appears that it may have been directed more at me. Are you suggesting that as a fan of Carroll that somehow I am being a disrespectful, arrogant :Censor:?
The "tradition" was formed by Carroll's performance on the field and in the classroom. One merely needs to start to count the number of championships that these students have managed to generate over th years to appreciate what they have accomplished. Plus those same students have managed to do quite well, for the most part, in the classroom, consistently placing athletes in the service acadamies, Ivy league schools and other stand-out academic institutions along with many other fine schools (and some not so fine as well.)
The "Protecting of the Tradition" is not only football, but it is everything that is Carroll. The desire to be the best and command excellence. Why does Carroll do so well in not only sports, but academics? Must be something with the "whole" school buying into this and working hard. Our parents pushing us.
An example that many people don't know, as the Carroll Band travels, we ALWAYS cleaned up after ourselves. The directors made sure we left our area cleaner than it was before we got there. After all our games, people will go through stands (band kids), and collect garbage. I've done that on a few occasions, as has yankee.
DrEdward
11-09-2008, 07:34 PM
The "Protecting of the Tradition" is not only football, but it is everything that is Carroll. The desire to be the best and command excellence. Why does Carroll do so well in not only sports, but academics? Must be something with the "whole" school buying into this and working hard. Our parents pushing us.
An example that many people don't know, as the Carroll Band travels, we ALWAYS cleaned up after ourselves. The directors made sure we left our area cleaner than it was before we got there. After all our games, people will go through stands (band kids), and collect garbage. I've done that on a few occasions, as has yankee.
And you will note that I did not restrict it to the football program. :cool:
dragons08
11-09-2008, 07:38 PM
And you will note that I did not restrict it to the football program. :cool:
I know sir, I was just reemphasizing. Echoing your statements if you will.
DrEdward
11-09-2008, 07:42 PM
I know sir, I was just reemphasizing. Echoing your statements if you will.
You are wise (as well as rash on occasion.) :D
drgnbkr
11-09-2008, 08:47 PM
You are wise (as well as rash on occasion.) :D
So, he's a wise-a$$ with a rash?..;)
sldragondad
11-09-2008, 09:07 PM
If we lose to CHHS, first of all OMG.
Secondly, concerning the search after Dodge left. We did a country wide seach for one of the most storied programs in Texas Football history and hired a coach from 3 miles away.
the_phoenix612
11-10-2008, 02:18 AM
The "Protecting of the Tradition" is not only football, but it is everything that is Carroll. The desire to be the best and command excellence. Why does Carroll do so well in not only sports, but academics? Must be something with the "whole" school buying into this and working hard. Our parents pushing us.
An example that many people don't know, as the Carroll Band travels, we ALWAYS cleaned up after ourselves. The directors made sure we left our area cleaner than it was before we got there. After all our games, people will go through stands (band kids), and collect garbage. I've done that on a few occasions, as has yankee.
this.
its something that I never even gave thought to until I left Carroll, but I see all the kids from other high schools who act like drunk ******** monkeys at public events, and it just floors me.
The C in Carroll stands for Class.
HebronHawk
11-10-2008, 06:20 AM
this.
its something that I never even gave thought to until I left Carroll, but I see all the kids from other high schools who act like drunk ******** monkeys at public events, and it just floors me.
The C in Carroll stands for Class.
Is that how the students at TAMS act? That would be surprising.
It would be nice to talk football....
As will I here... GREAT job Dragons... Sorry I couldnt be present for such an outstanding win... But I did get to watch my Yellow Jackets win the "Battle of the Axe" game.. 35-17 and went 10-0.. But its now Dragons all the way to state... Lets go get the Panthers..
slcdragonfan
11-10-2008, 09:43 AM
Denton Ryan is playing a game at Dragon stadium on Thursday, should be interesting to see. I'll be there (of course). Anyone else going?
In regards to the CHHS/Carroll game, what do we know about CHHS ability to run? If that isn't there, then I suspect we take it handily. If it IS there, then I foresee something like a Coppell game. So I could see either:
a. 45 - 28, SLC or
b. 55-53 with whoever makes the fewest mistakes on top.
We will need the secondary to have a big morning either way, with multiple sacks to contain.
Denton Ryan is playing a game at Dragon stadium on Thursday, should be interesting to see. I'll be there (of course). Anyone else going?
In regards to the CHHS/Carroll game, what do we know about CHHS ability to run? If that isn't there, then I suspect we take it handily. If it IS there, then I foresee something like a Coppell game. So I could see either:
a. 45 - 28, SLC or
b. 55-53 with whoever makes the fewest mistakes on top.
We will need the secondary to have a big morning either way, with multiple sacks to contain.
They've averaged a less than 100 yds a game rushing.. Their leading rusher has about 800 yds rushing and 17 tds.
SLC13
11-10-2008, 10:52 AM
They've averaged a less than 100 yds a game rushing.. Their leading rusher has about 800 yds rushing and 17 tds.
Bryon Head also has more receptions than any of their WR's (55) coming out of the backfield. He is one of the primary threats in their offense. The Dragon D will really need to focus on holding him down.
slcdragonfan
11-10-2008, 11:09 AM
Bryon Head also has more receptions than any of their WR's (55) coming out of the backfield. He is one of the primary threats in their offense. The Dragon D will really need to focus on holding him down.
We dealt with that same issue re: Flower Mound. Shut down the Ashley to 15 yards receiving and 11 rushing I believe, and it was very few receptions. Of course on special teams he was a monster! :)
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 11:11 AM
Bryon Head also has more receptions than any of their WR's (55) coming out of the backfield. He is one of the primary threats in their offense. The Dragon D will really need to focus on holding him down.
Indeed. He's a beast. If you discount their running game because he only has 800 rushing yards, then you've just discounted the '99 Rams because Marshall Faulk "averaged less than 100 rushing yards/game". Obviously I've exaggerated a bit but Head is that type of player. The Panthers will get the ball in his hands however they need to. If the running lanes aren't open, he'll be open on a swing pass or on the short routes. You have to understand that about 1/3 of his receptions and receiving yards can be treated like rushing yards because in running situations they'll use him on short pass routes instead.
But, if you shut Head down you've won half the battle. You still have to contend with Steven Hill.
Bryon Head also has more receptions than any of their WR's (55) coming out of the backfield. He is one of the primary threats in their offense. The Dragon D will really need to focus on holding him down.
Yes, he and Brandon Defrance both have over 50 catches this season.. Byron only has 3 recieveing tds though, and Defrance has 9.. As long as we can keep a linebacker watching him we should be fine..
Indeed. He's a beast. If you discount their running game because he only has 800 rushing yards, then you've just discounted the '99 Rams because Marshall Faulk "averaged less than 100 rushing yards/game". Obviously I've exaggerated a bit but Head is that type of player. The Panthers will get the ball in his hands however they need to. If the running lanes aren't open, he'll be open on a swing pass or on the short routes. You have to understand that about 1/3 of his receptions and receiving yards can be treated like rushing yards because in running situations they'll use him on short pass routes instead.
But, if you shut Head down you've won half the battle. You still have to contend with Steven Hill.
There is no doubt Byron is their go to guy.. He touched the ball almost 200 times this season.. I'm not overly worried about Steven running.. Just Byron.
SLC13
11-10-2008, 11:25 AM
Indeed. He's a beast. If you discount their running game because he only has 800 rushing yards, then you've just discounted the '99 Rams because Marshall Faulk "averaged less than 100 rushing yards/game". Obviously I've exaggerated a bit but Head is that type of player. The Panthers will get the ball in his hands however they need to. If the running lanes aren't open, he'll be open on a swing pass or on the short routes. You have to understand that about 1/3 of his receptions and receiving yards can be treated like rushing yards because in running situations they'll use him on short pass routes instead.
But, if you shut Head down you've won half the battle. You still have to contend with Steven Hill.
Very true, but if we do succeed forcing them to pass to move the ball, then I really like our chances. We've beaten that type of team all year long......:)
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 11:36 AM
There is no doubt Byron is their go to guy.. He touched the ball almost 200 times this season.. I'm not overly worried about Steven running.. Just Byron.
It's Bryan
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 11:47 AM
Same thing..
Yeah, that Byron Westbrook for the Eagles is a beast . . . :rolleyes:
Yeah, that Byron Westbrook for the Eagles is a beast . . . :rolleyes:
Exactly... Mispelling the name has nothing to do with the play... Especially for high school... their not tracking a name just a number.
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 12:00 PM
Exactly... Mispelling the name has nothing to do with the play... Especially for high school... their not tracking a name just a number.
Hey, I'm a radio guy -- we have to get the names right. Otherwise we get nasty (although some are very courteous) e-mails/letters from parents.
And yes, it does happen.
And it wasn't a mis-spelling. You had his name entirely wrong.
Hey, I'm a radio guy -- we have to get the names right. Otherwise we get nasty (although some are very courteous) e-mails/letters from parents.
And yes, it does happen.
And it wasn't a mis-spelling. You had his name entirely wrong.
Well see... Its for you to be right... I'm allowed my weekly mistake on names... You have to avoid the wrath of angry coaches and parents.. I'm just dealing with thread police/radio guys....
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 12:16 PM
Well see... Its for you to be right... I'm allowed my weekly mistake on names... You have to avoid the wrath of angry coaches and parents.. I'm just dealing with thread police/radio guys....
Not trying to be police here or a jerk and I apologize if it's come across that way. (Believe me, I could be much more of a jerk if warranted) I agree with the points you've been making. Just trying to help you out because there are some that will say "if he doesn't even know the guy's name he hasn't done as much homework on him as he thinks he has." But again, I think you know the Heritage team well and you know what you're talking about. He's the focal point of the offense and dictates how well they'll move the ball.
SLC93
11-10-2008, 12:25 PM
Well, someone needs to say this. Byron, Bryant, Brian, Bill, Bob or whatever his name is has been on the Heritage varsity since his sophmore year. He has never been a factor against us. Shocking as it may be to some, that pattern will continue. Let's not confuse him with the running backs from Marcus and Hebron. Those two are special runners that exploited a weakness so bad it's hard to even describe correctly. Head is a talented player but he is not anywhere near their class. The key to this game is the Dragon dline versus the Panther oline because the qb for Colleyville is the most critical part of their offensive machine. He takes all the snaps, makes all the reads and is responsible for every decision. If he cannot find his rhthym, Colleyville will fall by a couple of touchdown and there will not be a thing Head can do to stop that from happening. I look for Avers to outshine him considerably in this one.
Not trying to be police here or a jerk and I apologize if it's come across that way. (Believe me, I could be much more of a jerk if warranted) I agree with the points you've been making. Just trying to help you out because there are some that will say "if he doesn't even know the guy's name he hasn't done as much homework on him as he thinks he has." But again, I think you know the Heritage team well and you know what you're talking about. He's the focal point of the offense and dictates how well they'll move the ball.
RadioGuy... I'm just having fun with ya... I meant that seriously and laughingly when I said you have to deal with angry people and all I have to deal with is thread police.. What I'm saying is I dont pay alot of attention when I write names, cause I dont have to worry about the things you would if you misspoke them on air.. And when I origionally wrote the wrong name, I was just saying after that, that it was known who I was talking about.. As long as we got his number right... In other words dont let ME tell the Carroll players his number OR his name, cause they would kick my :Censor: when they try to tackle #78 on the play....:D
bleedsgreen
11-10-2008, 12:32 PM
We finally made some adjustments on D that will help us go along way in playoffs. If we had made these adjustments at halftime of Hebron game there might have been a W come out that game. Burnett, Richards,Osborne and Foster are going to play havoc on Head and Hill.
Well, someone needs to say this. Byron, Bryant, Brian, Bill, Bob or whatever his name is has been on the Heritage varsity since his sophmore year. He has never been a factor against us. Shocking as it may be to some, that pattern will continue. Let's not confuse him with the running backs from Marcus and Hebron. Those two are special runners that exploited a weakness so bad it's hard to even describe correctly. Head is a talented player but he is not anywhere near their class. The key to this game is the Dragon dline versus the Panther oline because the qb for Colleyville is the most critical part of their offensive machine. He takes all the snaps, makes all the reads and is responsible for every decision. If he cannot find his rhthym, Colleyville will fall by a couple of touchdown and there will not be a thing Head can do to stop that from happening. I look for Avers to outshine him considerably in this one.
We MUST win both lines of scrimmage... If Carroll can do this, I think we are on the road to round 2.. God I love the playoffs...:D
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 01:05 PM
RadioGuy... I'm just having fun with ya... I meant that seriously and laughingly when I said you have to deal with angry people and all I have to deal with is thread police.. What I'm saying is I dont pay alot of attention when I write names, cause I dont have to worry about the things you would if you misspoke them on air.. And when I origionally wrote the wrong name, I was just saying after that, that it was known who I was talking about.. As long as we got his number right... In other words dont let ME tell the Carroll players his number OR his name, cause they would kick my :Censor: when they try to tackle #78 on the play....:D
It's all good, my friend. Here's to a good game regardless of who comes out on top.
drgnbkr
11-10-2008, 01:08 PM
It's all good, my friend. Here's to a good game regardless of who comes out on top.
Ditto, that thought! I look forward to the scene at TS Saturday and hope we get a well played game. I enjoy the enthusiasm of the CHHS students. While a few act in ways that are less than respectful, a lot of schools would benefit from the kind of support they bring.
farmerfan
11-10-2008, 01:11 PM
Good luck to the Dragons this week.
Looks as if we both have early starts. The UGA/Auburn game is an 11:30 kickoff which puts a dent in my tailgating plans as well as Friday night partying on the Plains.
Represent the district well and I'll see yall next week God willing.
CCCSportsFan
11-10-2008, 01:48 PM
bleedsgreen
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We finally made some adjustments on D that will help us go along way in playoffs. If we had made these adjustments at halftime of Hebron game there might have been a W come out that game. Burnett, Richards,Osborne and Foster are going to play havoc on Head and Hill.
I agree with your read on the defensive adjustments and these 4 can go a long way to set the tone for their unit.
We are also fortunate to be starting our playoff run against a team that we have a lot of experience playing in the past. Every team we played this year was a "new opponent" for the Dragons. While studying film helps teams prepare, there's a lot to be said for the familiarity we had the past 4 seasons in district 5-5A. That familiarity hasn't been there all season until this week.
dragonbuck
11-10-2008, 02:03 PM
I am not jumping the gun here because I realize how tough this game will be this weekend, but have you seen the road to Region 1 champs if the Dragons can pull out a win this weekend?
If the Dragons get by 9-1 CHHS, then they would likely play 10-1 Cedar Hill (with Mendoza at D Coordinator), then 12-0 Abilene (huge rematch), followed by 12-1 Bowie (or Richland).
Region 1 D2 is by far the toughest region, at least in D2. we've done it before!
slcdragonfan
11-10-2008, 02:23 PM
it's all good, my friend. Here's to a good game with carroll coming out on top.
fify:d
Pinion
11-10-2008, 02:25 PM
That's sure gonna suck leaving Austin early Sat. morning in order to make the game at TS. But, I guess that's what fans do, right?
I cannot wait till this weekend.
slcdragonfan
11-10-2008, 02:29 PM
I am not jumping the gun here because I realize how tough this game will be this weekend, but have you seen the road to Region 1 champs if the Dragons can pull out a win this weekend?
If the Dragons get by 9-1 CHHS, then they would likely play 10-1 Cedar Hill (with Mendoza at D Coordinator), then 12-0 Abilene (huge rematch), followed by 12-1 Bowie (or Richland).
Region 1 D2 is by far the toughest region, at least in D2. we've done it before!
Yeah, I've looked. and don't discount us coming up against Hebron instead of Bowie/Richland, and don't leave Wylie out, they are tough.
We have every opportunity, if we keep playing, to get even :D with a couple of teams this season. CHILL actually worries me quite a bit this year. But that is looking way ahead, I agree.
15Adragon
11-10-2008, 02:31 PM
I am not jumping the gun here because I realize how tough this game will be this weekend, but have you seen the road to Region 1 champs if the Dragons can pull out a win this weekend?
If the Dragons get by 9-1 CHHS, then they would likely play 10-1 Cedar Hill (with Mendoza at D Coordinator), then 12-0 Abilene (huge rematch), followed by 12-1 Bowie (or Richland).
Region 1 D2 is by far the toughest region, at least in D2. we've done it before!
Yes, 1 game at a time. We can do it and that is where the trophy's in the case serve to remind us that it can be done. It all starts saturday morning at 10.
the_phoenix612
11-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Is that how the students at TAMS act? That would be surprising.
quite a lot of them, yes.
there are quite a few people from hebron here, as well as coppell, and they acted in a totally classless fashion after those games.
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 02:46 PM
fify:d
I have no dog in this fight . . .
slcdragonfan
11-10-2008, 02:55 PM
I have no dog in this fight . . .
I know, I know, CSRadioGuy, you gotta get a sense of humor. Change your icon to Yoda, laugh a little......:D
CSRadioGuy
11-10-2008, 03:00 PM
I know, I know, CSRadioGuy, you gotta get a sense of humor. Change your icon to Yoda, laugh a little......:D
Oh, it made me laugh -- I just don't want anyone to think my opinions come from being a homer.
dragonbuck
11-10-2008, 03:18 PM
Yeah, I've looked. and don't discount us coming up against Hebron instead of Bowie/Richland, and don't leave Wylie out, they are tough.
We have every opportunity, if we keep playing, to get even :D with a couple of teams this season. CHILL actually worries me quite a bit this year. But that is looking way ahead, I agree.
Not discounting Hebron at all, nor Wylie. They have a tough road also. Every week will be a huge test for most in region 1.
dragons08
11-10-2008, 04:16 PM
So, he's a wise-a$$ with a rash?..;)
God, I'd hope not!
drgnbkr
11-10-2008, 04:18 PM
god, i'd hope not!
:d
dragons08
11-10-2008, 04:19 PM
That's sure gonna suck leaving Austin early Sat. morning in order to make the game at TS. But, I guess that's what fans do, right?
I cannot wait till this weekend.
I hope there is more upcoming games, I won't be able to make it this weekend. Aint that a *****!
That's sure gonna suck leaving Austin early Sat. morning in order to make the game at TS. But, I guess that's what fans do, right?
I cannot wait till this weekend.
Now you know how we all feel all week.. And you've only been on the band wagon for a few days... Its intense..:D
I hope there is more upcoming games, I won't be able to make it this weekend. Aint that a *****!
I'll send you text updates as usual... not to worry..;)
Pinion
11-10-2008, 06:07 PM
Now you know how we all feel all week.. And you've only been on the band wagon for a few days... Its intense..:D
Well, it's double for me. Louisiana playoffs start this weekend as well. ECA is ranked #2 in powerratings. They have the #31 ranked team coming to Shreveport Friday to be schooled on scoring. lol. They'll have an easy week this week. But still, it's the playoffs. My favorite time of year. Next to..uh.. No, this is it. My favorite season. 2nd season.
Ima have to get with you before this weekend so we can meet up and stuff. I dont know where anything is in DFW. I'll give you a shout prolly wed or thurs. so we can make a plan.
dragons08
11-10-2008, 07:16 PM
I'll send you text updates as usual... not to worry..;)
Sounds good man, appreciate cha.
TigerHat
11-10-2008, 07:25 PM
SLC fans
Since pretty much everyone else in the state hates our two teams and since both our teams are having problems this year and everyone has written us both off - how about we both put a run together and agree to meet at Reliant in December. Talk about making everyone else madder that wet hornets. We both know the path - lets do it.:D
15Adragon
11-10-2008, 07:34 PM
SLC fans
Since pretty much everyone else in the state hates our two teams and since both our teams are having problems this year and everyone has written us both off - how about we both put a run together and agree to meet at Reliant in December. Talk about making everyone else madder that wet hornets. We both know the path - lets do it.:D
You got it 5A DII brother! We'll start by doing our part on Saturday! We hope to see you there in December. :Music
TigerHat
11-10-2008, 07:46 PM
One game at a time, and a Red and Green Christmas it will be.:)
SLC93
11-10-2008, 07:55 PM
SLC fans
Since pretty much everyone else in the state hates our two teams and since both our teams are having problems this year and everyone has written us both off - how about we both put a run together and agree to meet at Reliant in December. Talk about making everyone else madder that wet hornets. We both know the path - lets do it.:D
I'm sooooooooooooo down with that. Folks gotta get their shots in when they can. Neither one of us spend too much time "down". Brang it!:D
HebronHawk
11-10-2008, 08:10 PM
I am not jumping the gun here because I realize how tough this game will be this weekend, but have you seen the road to Region 1 champs if the Dragons can pull out a win this weekend?
If the Dragons get by 9-1 CHHS, then they would likely play 10-1 Cedar Hill (with Mendoza at D Coordinator), then 12-0 Abilene (huge rematch), followed by 12-1 Bowie (or Richland).
Region 1 D2 is by far the toughest region, at least in D2. we've done it before!
More likely a rematch with Hebron at that point but our record will only be 10-3. :D
HebronHawk
11-10-2008, 08:12 PM
quite a lot of them, yes.
there are quite a few people from hebron here, as well as coppell, and they acted in a totally classless fashion after those games.
My daughter's senior class at Hebron has 2-3 people at TAMS from it.
dragonbuck
11-10-2008, 08:17 PM
More likely a rematch with Hebron at that point but our record will only be 10-3. :D
No, I had you guys figured for 1 and done.....not. Good luck and hope to see you in about 4 weeks
the_phoenix612
11-10-2008, 08:45 PM
My daughter's senior class at Hebron has 2-3 people at TAMS from it.
hm.
not surprising, roughly 65 people have failed out of TAMS so far from my class.
proportions would say that about 2 of those would be from Hebron.
that means about 40 from Plano :D
HebronHawk
11-11-2008, 12:07 AM
hm.
not surprising, roughly 65 people have failed out of TAMS so far from my class.
proportions would say that about 2 of those would be from Hebron.
that means about 40 from Plano :D
Interesting. Didn't know you could fail out of TAMS. Where do those people go? Nobody has returned to Hebron that left their soph. year.
dragons08
11-11-2008, 12:09 AM
Interesting. Didn't know you could fail out of TAMS. Where do those people go? Nobody has returned to Hebron that left their soph. year.
They served you your fries at McDonalds yesterday.
HebronHawk
11-11-2008, 06:30 AM
They served you your fries at McDonalds yesterday.
The people recruited for TAMS are usually pretty talented and gifted (Phoenix aside :D). They would complete their education somewhere besides McDonalds even if they left TAMS, imo.
dragons08
11-11-2008, 09:48 AM
The people recruited for TAMS are usually pretty talented and gifted (Phoenix aside :D). They would complete their education somewhere besides McDonalds even if they left TAMS, imo.
I know, I am fully aware of this. It was a joke sir.
bleedsgreen
11-11-2008, 10:34 AM
Well, it's double for me. Louisiana playoffs start this weekend as well. ECA is ranked #2 in powerratings. They have the #31 ranked team coming to Shreveport Friday to be schooled on scoring. lol. They'll have an easy week this week. But still, it's the playoffs. My favorite time of year. Next to..uh.. No, this is it. My favorite season. 2nd season.
Ima have to get with you before this weekend so we can meet up and stuff. I dont know where anything is in DFW. I'll give you a shout prolly wed or thurs. so we can make a plan.
Bragging about being ranked #2 in class 1A!
the_phoenix612
11-11-2008, 11:41 AM
Interesting. Didn't know you could fail out of TAMS. Where do those people go? Nobody has returned to Hebron that left their soph. year.
yes, you must keep a 3.0 gpa to stay here. If you fail out early on, most people go back to their old high schools. Some get a GED, and some apply early to and get in to colleges. If nobody from Hebron failed, how are there kids from TAMS in your daughters senior class?
dragons08
11-11-2008, 01:43 PM
yes, you must keep a 3.0 gpa to stay here. If you fail out early on, most people go back to their old high schools. Some get a GED, and some apply early to and get in to colleges. If nobody from Hebron failed, how are there kids from TAMS in your daughters senior class?
Maybe he means "same graduating year"? Like if they didn't do TAMS?
HebronHawk
11-11-2008, 01:50 PM
yes, you must keep a 3.0 gpa to stay here. If you fail out early on, most people go back to their old high schools. Some get a GED, and some apply early to and get in to colleges. If nobody from Hebron failed, how are there kids from TAMS in your daughters senior class?
Same graduating year, obviously. Most leave for TAMS during their Soph. year and don't return.
Nobody from the top 10 in her class went to TAMS this time.
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