265a sweeps 25 and 275a good Job.

[Rocketman]

I saw Judson beat oconnor last night and I saw s.v. beat Jay pretty bad today. Jay looked terrible how did jay even beat oconnor or clark? Oh well the valley teams will all get beat too, this coming weekend and then s.v. will have a rematch with madison and then Judson goes on to get beat by one heck of a spring westfield team.

[fballfan05]

"I saw Judson beat oconnor last night and I saw s.v. beat Jay pretty bad today. Jay looked terrible how did jay even beat oconnor or clark? Oh well the valley teams will all get beat too, this coming weekend and then s.v. will have a rematch with madison and then Judson goes on to get beat by one heck of a spring westfield team."



Jay is not bad. smithson valley is just playing well right now and can make a team that is pretty good, look really bad. Smithson Valley forced a couple of turnovers and capatalized on them by scoring.......Good teams make big plays happen...that is what sv did today.

[Rocketman]

it was more than a couple of turnovers s.v. dominated from top to bottom in that game today, Jay looked confused and just looked really bad today. s.v could have run the score up even higher if they wanted too, sorry but Jay would have gotten beat by madison and judson too. Jay had a good season good luck next year.......oconnor wins your district next year...........

[singularity]

It seems to me that Madison really stepped up to play Clemens (or Clemens was just not good). I expected more of a margin against Clark. I think they stepped up for Clemens and are back to where they were before as far as level of play.

[maverick#23]

I was at the game (Clark vs. Madison) and the Clark Cougars played the best game of their season, and Madison played one of their worst defensive games of the season. Madison's Defense had not faced a big RB all season and Clark had a couple. These guys hit the line hard/fast and used their size to dominate Madison's smallish D-Line. Madison's offense sputtered out of the gate and had a poor first quarter. I can't really give Clark's Defense the credit for that, because the guys from Madison were just making dumb mistakes. They started to get the Maverick machine rolling by the middle of the 2nd quarter and gave Clark a hand full most of the second half. The defense only stopped Clark on two possesions and forced them to a field goal in the 4th quarter after Clark had returned a kick-off to the Madison ten. They shut Clark down three and out at a critical time with just over two-minutes left in the game with the Cougars up 38-34. That Clark punt put Madison back at their own 29 with 2:12 on the clock. Madison marched the 71 yards to clinch the victory with :22 seconds on the clock. Clark blew leads of 14-0, 21-6, 28-13, before Madison tied at 28-28, then Madison went up 28-34, before giving up ten points to Clark setting up the final drive to win 40-38 (the PAT was no good due to a low snap).

[singularity]

How different would you say Madison's level of play now is compared to when they played SV?

[maverick#23]

I'd say the defense has yet to completely recover from the fifteen minute melt down in the second half of their district match-up with SV. Madison had a 14-7 lead mid way into the 3rd Quarter and were controlling the game clock. Suddenly the Rangers turned it up two notches on offense and the Madison defense obliged by turning it down three notches (SV went on a 21-0 run). The Madison offense and QB Chris Caflisch in particular are playing at their best of the season, even better than they were when they were controlling the SV defense in the first 30 minutes of their game.

[singularity]

The rangers are peaking in the playoffs as usual. If madison's D doesn't step it up, SV is going to run all over them.

[maverick#23]

PSJA will be lucky to score on Madison's Defense this week, but that's not saying much. It may give the Madison Defense some confidence though. Part of the problem is Madison's 210 lbs. Inside Linebacker hurt his shoulder against SV three weeks ago and he is still a little gun shy. If Madison rolls PSJA they may be able to sit him in the second half and he might be ready to hit like he use too. I don't see SV's defense stopping Madison, so a blowout is highly unlikely. If I was handicapping I would favor SV by three in a fairly high scoring game. If SV gets caught up in an absolute shootout, Madison's skills players are just too fast and that would be bad news for SV. Madison is much more capable of breaking the big play than SV.

[singularity]

I think it will come down to consistency. SV is consistent whereas Madison makes big plays unconsistently. SVs defense is starting to look scary to any teams running game.

[maverick#23]

I agree, and they have a four headed monster at running back. All of these guys could be featured backs on a very average 5A team. Plus their kicker was probably the MVP against Madison. He put all his kickoffs out the back of the end zone, except his last one. Of course Caflisch returned that one 85 yards to set up Madison's final score to make it 31-21.

[singularity]

That was an awesome run. I was very impressed...by the way...SVs kicker, sendejo, had a 60-70 yard (I don't know for sure) return today in which he broke 4 tackles before being pushed out at the 7.

[maverick#23]

FYI to anyone who was wondering about Madison's first loss it was a 14-17 loss in week one to a very good San Marcos team in San Marcos. San Marcos dominated all of their district opponents except for Schertz Clemens and loss to SV in bi-district. The main reason Madison lost that game was because they were unfamiliar with their own offense. It was the first game that they had run this new shot gun offense which resembles the UT offense (with fewer passing plays called). Madison would have finished 9-1 had they had an average opponent in week one. Had they faced San Marcos in week two they would have won easily.

[DiamondJ2]

Madison's QB, receivers and O-line have improved tremendously over the last six weeks. Confidence in the system is very obvious. Then add Green and D'Andre at RB's and the Madison offense is a pleasure to watch. If Madison defense can play a good game, the SV-Madison game may be decided on who has the ball last.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

PSJA will be lucky to score on Madison's Defense this week, but that's not saying much. It may give the Madison Defense some confidence though. Part of the problem is Madison's 210 lbs. Inside Linebacker hurt his shoulder against SV three weeks ago and he is still a little gun shy. If Madison rolls PSJA they may be able to sit him in the second half and he might be ready to hit like he use too. I don't see SV's defense stopping Madison, so a blowout is highly unlikely. If I was handicapping I would favor SV by three in a fairly high scoring game. If SV gets caught up in an absolute shootout, Madison's skills players are just too fast and that would be bad news for SV. Madison is much more capable of breaking the big play than SV.
if you're talking about edson....if you watched the game you would have noticed he got hurt.

[shooter]

I saw Judson beat oconnor last night and I saw s.v. beat Jay pretty bad today. Jay looked terrible how did jay even beat oconnor or clark? Oh well the valley teams will all get beat too, this coming weekend and then s.v. will have a rematch with madison and then Judson goes on to get beat by one heck of a spring westfield team.

Jay did not beat Clark....

Jay lost to Clark in OT

[PantherFan70]

PSJA will be lucky to score on Madison's Defense this week, but that's not saying much. It may give the Madison Defense some confidence though. Part of the problem is Madison's 210 lbs. Inside Linebacker hurt his shoulder against SV three weeks ago and he is still a little gun shy. If Madison rolls PSJA they may be able to sit him in the second half and he might be ready to hit like he use too. I don't see SV's defense stopping Madison, so a blowout is highly unlikely. If I was handicapping I would favor SV by three in a fairly high scoring game. If SV gets caught up in an absolute shootout, Madison's skills players are just too fast and that would be bad news for SV. Madison is much more capable of breaking the big play than SV.

I know they are a valley team, but they don't go down without a fight. I know its a different year and Madison is doing very well, but 3 years ago that team gave OC one hell of a fight. They used every trick play that I've ever heard of in that game. But I don't think that will happen to madison they are playing very well lately.

[JackHandey_98]

I think SV is on a different level right now and the rematch will be like the first game if not worse. Unless Streety has found a playbook Madison wont beat SV. I was at the Madison and Clemens game and playcalling wise it was the same as the SV game. Run Caflisch.....run Caflisch......run him some more........give it to Green.......run Caflisch.........then throw a deep pass over the middle. SVs corners are too good for the Madison WR's so it once again will be on Caflischs shoulders and SV will have them figured out quick. It took a half to adjust.... then they shut Madison down.....I look for SV to just dominate the whole game....they know what to expect and they know what not to do.

[lonny23]

November is sweeps month.

Next up is South Texas.

I sure hope for Houston and Dallas sweeps, too! :D

[Oskie07]

First off, congratulations to all the 26-5A playoff teams on their victories. I thought Clark and Jay had a chance to win their games, but as it turned out Clark and O'Connor almost pulled their games out. Smithson Valley really looked good against Jay.

Madison should be commended for pulling victory from the jaws of defeat. That is a sign of players rising to the occasion when the game was on the line. Still anyone would have to admit that Madison was fortunate to pull that game off. Bottom line though - they did !!

O'Connor really suprised me in there comeback attempt after surrendering 17 points to Judson. If OC doesn't kick it deep at the end of the 2nd quarter and Judson doesn't return it for a TD. O'Connor might just have won that game.

After the 1st quarter Jay couldn't get anything going and Smithson Valley took the game over. I definitely agree that Smithson Valley is rolling and is in playoff form. SV beat Madison 28 - 14 after struggling through the 1st half. They beat Jay 34-14 with no mistakes and looking as good as they have all season. I think they easily win the Region and might be making a return trip to state this year. We shall see !!

P.S. - Congrats also go out to all the 27-5A playoff teams this year for a great season and good luck to 26-5A teams the rest of the way !!

[lonny23]

First off, congratulations to all the 26-5A playoff teams on their victories. I thought Clark and Jay had a chance to win their games, but as it turned out Clark and O'Connor almost pulled their games out. Smithson Valley really looked good against Jay.

Madison should be commended for pulling victory from the jaws of defeat. That is a sign of players rising to the occasion when the game was on the line. Still anyone would have to admit that Madison was fortunate to pull that game off. Bottom line though - they did !!

O'Connor really suprised me in there comeback attempt after surrendering 17 points to Judson. If OC doesn't kick it deep at the end of the 2nd quarter and Judson doesn't return it for a TD. O'Connor might just have won that game.

After the 1st quarter Jay couldn't get anything going and Smithson Valley took the game over. I definitely agree that Smithson Valley is rolling and is in playoff form. SV beat Madison 28 - 14 after struggling through the 1st half. They beat Jay 34-14 with no mistakes and looking as good as they have all season. I think they easily win the Region and might be making a return trip to state this year. We shall see !!

P.S. - Congrats also go out to all the 27-5A playoff teams this year for a great season and good luck to 26-5A teams the rest of the way !!
I don't think SV does it easily because Madison is a good team. You can't just take 1 game and make your power rankings that way. The way I see it in 27-5A:

O'Connor
Jay
Clark

and that's not how the games turned out in district.

[maverick#23]

First off, congratulations to all the 26-5A playoff teams on their victories. I thought Clark and Jay had a chance to win their games, but as it turned out Clark and O'Connor almost pulled their games out. Smithson Valley really looked good against Jay.

Madison should be commended for pulling victory from the jaws of defeat. That is a sign of players rising to the occasion when the game was on the line. Still anyone would have to admit that Madison was fortunate to pull that game off. Bottom line though - they did !!

O'Connor really suprised me in there comeback attempt after surrendering 17 points to Judson. If OC doesn't kick it deep at the end of the 2nd quarter and Judson doesn't return it for a TD. O'Connor might just have won that game.

After the 1st quarter Jay couldn't get anything going and Smithson Valley took the game over. I definitely agree that Smithson Valley is rolling and is in playoff form. SV beat Madison 28 - 14 after struggling through the 1st half. They beat Jay 34-14 with no mistakes and looking as good as they have all season. I think they easily win the Region and might be making a return trip to state this year. We shall see !!

P.S. - Congrats also go out to all the 27-5A playoff teams this year for a great season and good luck to 26-5A teams the rest of the way !!

Correction, that score was 31-21 and they struggled because Madison's running game was averaging almost ten yards a carry in the first half. The second half the SV defense played slightly better and Madison's play calling was horrendous and predictable. They became super conservative. That does not work against SV.

[MadisonMaverickChick]

I think SV is on a different level right now and the rematch will be like the first game if not worse. Unless Streety has found a playbook Madison wont beat SV. I was at the Madison and Clemens game and playcalling wise it was the same as the SV game. Run Caflisch.....run Caflisch......run him some more........give it to Green.......run Caflisch.........then throw a deep pass over the middle. SVs corners are too good for the Madison WR's so it once again will be on Caflischs shoulders and SV will have them figured out quick. It took a half to adjust.... then they shut Madison down.....I look for SV to just dominate the whole game....they know what to expect and they know what not to do.
i could not have said that better myself. There were a lot of fans in the crowd for the SV v. Madison game that were throwing fits because of the offensive play calling on madison's side. We have to find a way to establish a passing game against SV...and i'll settle for some short 5 yard passes as long as we have a third option other than Give the ball to Chris and make him run or Give the ball to Tony and make him run.

[JC73]

i could not have said that better myself. There were a lot of fans in the crowd for the SV v. Madison game that were throwing fits because of the offensive play calling on madison's side. We have to find a way to establish a passing game against SV...and i'll settle for some short 5 yard passes as long as we have a third option other than Give the ball to Chris and make him run or Give the ball to Tony and make him run.
I'm sure the fans know better than the coaches. :rolleyes:

[MadisonMaverickChick]

I'm sure the fans know better than the coaches. :rolleyes:
i never said that they did,but in that game...the play calling was horrible and everyone knew it.

[JackHandey_98]

i could not have said that better myself. There were a lot of fans in the crowd for the SV v. Madison game that were throwing fits because of the offensive play calling on madison's side. We have to find a way to establish a passing game against SV...and i'll settle for some short 5 yard passes as long as we have a third option other than Give the ball to Chris and make him run or Give the ball to Tony and make him run.
agreed....if they mix it up a bit and add some pass plays they could keep SV off balance....if not SV will key on Caflisch and make him have a real long day and sore next day. Madison better keep the score close also because they traditionally just seem to give up and just not try. I think they did against SV in the second half. Once SV stopped them for the first time in the second half you could tell the players just lost interest and SV just dominated them for the remainder of the game. The Clark game, though, they played through and stayed the course and pulled it out... If they can keep it close going in to the 4th theyll have a shot........but if SV has another monster 2nd qtr, like the previous 2 games, it might just be over at half time.

[maverick#23]

agreed....if they mix it up a bit and add some pass plays they could keep SV off balance....if not SV will key on Caflisch and make him have a real long day and sore next day. Madison better keep the score close also because they traditionally just seem to give up and just not try. I think they did against SV in the second half. Once SV stopped them for the first time in the second half you could tell the players just lost interest and SV just dominated them for the remainder of the game. The Clark game, though, they played through and stayed the course and pulled it out... If they can keep it close going in to the 4th theyll have a shot........but if SV has another monster 2nd qtr, like the previous 2 games, it might just be over at half time.

One game does not make for a tradition! :cool: I told some of the guys that the defense left their guts on the bus (re: 21-0 3/4th quarter run), and they agreed. I am certain SV will not duplicate scoring on three straight possesions come the Quarter Finals.

[JackHandey_98]

One game does not make for a tradition! :cool: I told some of the guys that the defense left their guts on the bus (re: 21-0 3/4th quarter run), and they agreed. I am certain SV will not duplicate scoring on three straight possesions come the Quarter Finals.
No years make for tradition.....look at Madison annually at the end of the season and the playoffs.

[JackHandey_98]

I am certain SV will not duplicate scoring on three straight possesions come the Quarter Finals.
No?......theyve just done it to two of the best teams in the region.

[maverick#23]

No years make for tradition.....look at Madison annually at the end of the season and the playoffs.

Such could be said for Smithson Valley and any other playoff power who has never one the state final. You act as though SV is a three time winner, not a three time loser. I remeber SV just kind of withered and gave up against SLC in '02. It might be conjecture, but the '02 Madison team that SV beat (28-27) would have given SLC all they could handle!

[SVite]

PSJA will be lucky to score on Madison's Defense this week, but that's not saying much. It may give the Madison Defense some confidence though. Part of the problem is Madison's 210 lbs. Inside Linebacker hurt his shoulder against SV three weeks ago and he is still a little gun shy. If Madison rolls PSJA they may be able to sit him in the second half and he might be ready to hit like he use too. I don't see SV's defense stopping Madison, so a blowout is highly unlikely. If I was handicapping I would favor SV by three in a fairly high scoring game. If SV gets caught up in an absolute shootout, Madison's skills players are just too fast and that would be bad news for SV. Madison is much more capable of breaking the big play than SV.

Like i said before Madison Wil NOT beat SV This year.It might be fun to think that they can,but they will NOT beat SV.The defense is making adjustments before the half on the field,just like last year at this time.You may start off on fire,then SV`s defense will doush it with cold water.Then you`ll look up at the scoreboard,and you`ll be down by double digits!

[JackHandey_98]

Such could be said for Smithson Valley and any other playoff power who has never one the state final. You act as though SV is a three time winner, not a three time loser. I remeber SV just kind of withered and gave up against SLC in '02. It might be conjecture, but the '02 Madison team that SV beat (28-27) would have given SLC all they could handle!
Did you see last years Madison-SV game? This years? Last years Taft game?Last yrs Mac game?When SV smacked em they hit the ground....Last year they just smacked em early.

[JackHandey_98]

Such could be said for Smithson Valley and any other playoff power who has never one the state final. You act as though SV is a three time winner, not a three time loser. I remeber SV just kind of withered and gave up against SLC in '02.
Isnt everyone else a loser too if they didnt win it? They were in the game though....not at home analyzing it on TV like the rest.

[SVite]

Such could be said for Smithson Valley and any other playoff power who has never one the state final. You act as though SV is a three time winner, not a three time loser. I remeber SV just kind of withered and gave up against SLC in '02. It might be conjecture, but the '02 Madison team that SV beat (28-27) would have given SLC all they could handle!


Ok your under arrest,the DREAM Police are comming for you!And get over the 02 crap!it`s done,we won,son,it was some fun,you got the SV gun,now you get run,Again!

You sound like the Katy fans,it was a call,it was this,or that!
SCORE MORE POINTS!

[maverick#23]

Ok your under arrest,the DREAM Police are comming for you!And get over the 02 crap!it`s done,we won,son,it was some fun,you got the SV gun,now you get run,Again!

You sound like the Katy fans,it was a call,it was this,or that!
SCORE MORE POINTS!

Darned those missed PAT's. That plagued the '02 Madison team more than their opponents. If only they would have had a better deep snap we wouldn't even be talking about this stuff. No 3 OT loss to Reagan, still maybe a loss to Judson (two early int's and a blocked punt all scored on gave Judson a 21-7 jump on a game that ended 39-37), and probably an overtime conclusion to Smithson Valley R4 final.

[JackHandey_98]

If your on this board every year....Madisons season ends the same every year.....calling for Streety to go...Conservative playcalling.......Lack of Killer instinct. Maybe they can get over that hump this year, but it will be against an SV team that is picking up steam. Hopefully for Madisons sake they got some heart from the Clark game because they will need it if they get down early to SV.

[maverick#23]

That difference would be Chris Caflisch, the kid wears #7 for a reason, he loved watching John Elway engineer 4th quarter comebacks when he was a kid. He plays in a similar fashion throwing downfield blocks for his RB's and such. I've seen this kid challenge his teammates and lead them back from what looked like two certain losses in two of the past three weeks (Mac down by 8 w/ 1:17 on the clock and Clark down by 4 w/ 2:12 on the clock).

[JackHandey_98]

One game does not make for a tradition! :cool: I told some of the guys that the defense left their guts on the bus (re: 21-0 3/4th quarter run), and they agreed. I am certain SV will not duplicate scoring on three straight possesions come the Quarter Finals.
They scored twice on 3 straight posessions :D

[JackHandey_98]

I feel like Lonny......read some of these previous posts......Good Times

[JackHandey_98]

SV vs. Madison......Like the first but worse...

[lonny23]

SV vs. Madison......Like the first but worse...
I said that would happen. Same result and not as close the 2nd time.

[Oskie07]

I would like to congratulate Smithson Valley again for a great victory over a great Madison team. Smithson Valley has cranked it up a notch ever since the 1st round (San Marcos) and left some of San Antonio's best looking not so good (Jay, Madison). I think that is a testament to how good they are rather than how bad the others were. I hope this is the year for the Rangers to win it all, but they face tremendous odds to get it done. Fortunately, thats what they seems to thrive on - the greater the odds and the tougher the opponent the better they play. Good luck to Smithson Valley the rest of the way and hopefully this is the year they get the state championship monkey off their back. Go Rangers !!

[JRocketMan]

I would like to congratulate Smithson Valley again for a great victory over a great Madison team. Smithson Valley has cranked it up a notch ever since the 1st round (San Marcos) and left some of San Antonio's best looking not so good (Jay, Madison). I think that is a testament to how good they are rather than how bad the others were. I hope this is the year for the Rangers to win it all, but they face tremendous odds to get it done. Fortunately, thats what they seems to thrive on - the greater the odds and the tougher the opponent the better they play. Good luck to Smithson Valley the rest of the way and hopefully this is the year they get the state championship monkey off their back. Go Rangers !!

Good Luck SV..U know Im a Rocket fan for life and we only come together on these occasions. So lets try to do what hasnt been done in awhile...And then Hopefully we can start the parade somewhere by 1604 and we can meet somwhere on 281

[ClarkDT07]

I was at the game (Clark vs. Madison) and the Clark Cougars played the best game of their season, and Madison played one of their worst defensive games of the season. Madison's Defense had not faced a big RB all season and Clark had a couple. These guys hit the line hard/fast and used their size to dominate Madison's smallish D-Line. Madison's offense sputtered out of the gate and had a poor first quarter. I can't really give Clark's Defense the credit for that, because the guys from Madison were just making dumb mistakes. They started to get the Maverick machine rolling by the middle of the 2nd quarter and gave Clark a hand full most of the second half. The defense only stopped Clark on two possesions and forced them to a field goal in the 4th quarter after Clark had returned a kick-off to the Madison ten. They shut Clark down three and out at a critical time with just over two-minutes left in the game with the Cougars up 38-34. That Clark punt put Madison back at their own 29 with 2:12 on the clock. Madison marched the 71 yards to clinch the victory with :22 seconds on the clock. Clark blew leads of 14-0, 21-6, 28-13, before Madison tied at 28-28, then Madison went up 28-34, before giving up ten points to Clark setting up the final drive to win 40-38 (the PAT was no good due to a low snap).


Clark won, late fumble in the 4th was recoverd by clark but was called down the reffs, we were screwed

[Gridiron Gopher]

Clark won, late fumble in the 4th was recoverd by clark but was called down the reffs, we were screwed

No, I think Madison won that game. :D Clark had them on the ropes and couldn't keep Madison down. Clark played well. Just not well enough.

[Slim-Rob]

Clark won, late fumble in the 4th was recoverd by clark but was called down the reffs, we were screwed

your only a few months late......