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STPFootball2011
10-26-2008, 11:58 AM
I think its time for us all to move on to this weeks game as the cedar park guys need something else to think about Matchups this week are as followed with the teams i think will win in bold.

Westwood vs Cedar Park- After playing SP teams seem to play not as well. Combine that with Westwood finally looking like we thought in preseason with there wupping on Mcneil the warriors win in a close one.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Point rolls playing the weakest teeam in the district

Georgetown vs Round Rock- kind of a homer pick because if Gtown wins we clinch sole distict champions but this is probably setting up to be a very close competitive game with two very good offenses.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander seems to have righted the ship by now and should have no problem with Mcneil whose seems to be heading in the wrong direction

d-train
10-26-2008, 12:16 PM
I think its time for us all to move on to this weeks game as the cedar park guys need something else to think about? Matchups this week are as followed with the teams i think will win in bold.

Westwood vs Cedar Park- After playing SP teams seem to play not as well. Combine that with Westwood finally looking like we thought in preseason with there wupping on Mcneil the warriors win in a close one.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Point rolls playing the weakest teeam in the district

Georgetown vs Round Rock- kind of a homer pick because if Gtown wins we clinch sole distict champions but this is probably setting up to be a very close competitive game with two very good offenses.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander seems to have righted the ship by now and should have no problem with Mcneil whose seems to be heading in the wrong direction
SP's QB and RB are both banged up as is the TE, yet they CRUSHED CP. They are head and shoulders above the rest of 16-5A!

change2009
10-26-2008, 01:41 PM
SP's QB and RB are both banged up as is the TE, yet they CRUSHED CP. They are head and shoulders above the rest of 16-5A!

VR's depth finally caught up with them the past three games, they are really struggling now. Doesn't help that their two best skill players are out, with DB Tyler Patmon out for the season and RB Drew Coleman questionable for the last two games, after only playing about a total of ten plays the last three games.

mcneilmav
10-26-2008, 06:24 PM
VR's depth finally caught up with them the past three games, they are really struggling now. Doesn't help that their two best skill players are out, with DB Tyler Patmon out for the season and RB Drew Coleman questionable for the last two games, after only playing about a total of ten plays the last three games.

Too bad McNeil isn't still on your slate. We have taken several steps backward since we sqeaked by you guys.

CPMScoach
10-26-2008, 06:37 PM
Yah, we need to think about showing up EACH week.

Westwood vs Cedar Park- This game has more meaning for CP then most people realize. These seniors have NEVER seen us beat WW on the varsity level, they have really stabbed us hard the past two years in shocking losses. It all depends however on which CP shows up. The CP who dominates or the CP, who well doesn't really know whats going on.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Stony is good, they can be beat, just not by this team. Prediction: Ridge gains less then 150 yards total, turns it over 3 times ATLEAST.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- this just seems like last years Up to Down ride for the Eagles.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander is getting ready for their potential Crosstown Showdown for a playoff spot matchup in two weeks. They will not look ahead, however, they may not cruise.

SP Tiger Backer
10-26-2008, 09:13 PM
Westwood vs Cedar Park- Cedar Park bounces back with an awsome effort after the SP loss.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Well, have to go with SP on this one. The only way VR wins is if SP looks totally past this game to the RR game.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- This could go either way but if SP wins this week and GT wins too, SP clinches the district title. GO EAGLES!

Leandervs McNeil - Most won't make this pick but I saw a very tough McNeil team at the SP game. It will be close.

I was 100% last week :D. Lets see if my picker still works for this week.

sptigerfootballguh09
10-26-2008, 10:44 PM
Westwood-Cedar Park- CP will be lookin for revenge after last weeks loss hopin to regain some dignity in the district
Stony Point- Vista Rigde- Hate to say it but again SP gets cocky thinking they'll just whoop everyone, hopefully im wrong and VR wont pull it off
Georgetown- Round Rock- Gtown will be lookin to grab a playoff spot after last weeks loss to Leander
Leander - Mcneil- Mcneil seems to have fallen apart, Leander also knows they need to win to have a shot at post season

chop44
10-27-2008, 07:42 AM
Traveled to RR and watched the SP vs. CP game. Great night for football. SP is the real deal. Game definately changed early in the 2nd quarter when CP couldn't score in 4 tries from inside the 5 yard line. CP folded at that point and SP took off.

I can't say enough about McKissick (sp) as the kid is a warrior. Limping badly throughout the game he ran and passed while executing the offense amazingly. He should be the MVP of the district this year.

On a down note, I couldn't help but notice that the left side of the SP Oline is very small. I'm concerned that SP might run into a big DLine early in the playoffs since they will be D1 5A. A couple of nasty d-linemen could cause problems and disrupt the offensive. Otherwise, very sound team in all phases. Best of luck in the playoffs.

RRSPfan
10-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Westood-Cedar Park I think CP rebounds from SP and plays a great game
Stony Point - Vista Ridge Have to give this one to SP.
Georgetown - Round Rock Maybe this is just me wanting it to happen. If Georgetown can beat RR then that last game SP has against RR is not as much of a must win for SP. If RR rolls though that last game will be even more exciting!
McNeil - Leander I think Leander takes this one.

The playoff picture is getting clearer. I think it's the following:
SP, RR, Georgetown and Leander.

Anybody got any other ideas.

Shamu85
10-27-2008, 11:51 AM
Westwood vs Cedar Park- I think Westwood's offense is finally showing what they are capable of, and CP seems to be a divided and injured team.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- SP will win this one easily. I agree with whomever posted earlier about VR's lack of depth finally catching up with them. Especially on that concrete field they play on.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- I am VERY worried about this game after last week's horrible performance by the run D for Georgetown. We should have never lost this game last year, so I am hoping that is some motivation for the Eagles to pull it out and make the playoffs finally.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander is the superior team I think. Leander's D will shut down the anemic McNeil offense and roll by 3 TD's.

CPMScoach
10-27-2008, 01:19 PM
Westwood vs Cedar Park- I think Westwood's offense is finally showing what they are capable of, and CP seems to be a divided and injured team.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- SP will win this one easily. I agree with whomever posted earlier about VR's lack of depth finally catching up with them. Especially on that concrete field they play on.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- I am VERY worried about this game after last week's horrible performance by the run D for Georgetown. We should have never lost this game last year, so I am hoping that is some motivation for the Eagles to pull it out and make the playoffs finally.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander is the superior team I think. Leander's D will shut down the anemic McNeil offense and roll by 3 TD's.

I think discouraged is a better word than divided.

This being said...Our starting linebackers may be back this week!
Very exciting news, especially for Austin Minor, a team captain who hasnt played since early in the Westlake game.

Yah, Bye Bye to Bible in 2 weeks.

Thank the lord.

I play catch and what not before the games there with my buddies, its awful.

It reminds me of Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia.

- sTp -
10-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Yah, Bye Bye to Bible in 2 weeks.

Thank the lord.

I play catch and what not before the games there with my buddies, its awful.

It reminds me of Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia.


:confused: Is Bible going to meet the wrecking ball soon?

Are they building a new stadium, or are you heading off somewhere else?

Airstrike
10-27-2008, 02:42 PM
:confused: Is Bible going to meet the wrecking ball soon?

Are they building a new stadium, or are you heading off somewhere else?

Word on the street is new 21st Century turf instead of the dreaded '70's style carpet with its associated rug burns and all new stands, pressbox, etc. Cost too much to deal with the lead paint on the old structure so it's "tear down and rebuild" time. Not any too soon, for sure.

Shamu85
10-27-2008, 03:42 PM
I think their bond issue had $8M for the stadium upgrades including replacing the stands and turf. Thank goodness noboby in the district will still have astroturf on their field after this year. That stuff can ruin your season in a hurry.

CPMScoach
10-28-2008, 07:41 AM
District 16-5a tie breakers:

Here is a few I think I have figured out.
I am new to this "tiebreaker" game, haha so PLEASE PLEASE correct me if I miss calculated.

McNeil is in IF: def. LEA & GEO (others I havent figure out)
Cedar Park is in IF: def. WW & LEA
Leander is in IF: def. McN & CP

is that right? haha at all?

Eagle Watcher
10-28-2008, 12:40 PM
District 16-5a tie breakers:

Here is a few I think I have figured out.
I am new to this "tiebreaker" game, haha so PLEASE PLEASE correct me if I miss calculated.

McNeil is in IF: def. LEA & GEO (others I havent figure out)
Cedar Park is in IF: def. WW & LEA
Leander is in IF: def. McN & CP

is that right? haha at all?

If Georgetown or Leander win the next two, they are automatically in.

If they both win this week and Westwood beats CP, Georgetown and Leander are in.

The only team elimnated for playoff contention at this point is Vista Ridge.

mcneilmav
10-28-2008, 09:48 PM
District 16-5a tie breakers:

Here is a few I think I have figured out.
I am new to this "tiebreaker" game, haha so PLEASE PLEASE correct me if I miss calculated.

McNeil is in IF: def. LEA & GEO (others I havent figure out)
Cedar Park is in IF: def. WW & LEA
Leander is in IF: def. McN & CP

is that right? haha at all?

We'll see if Mavs can get mentally and physically ready to close out district play with two very tough games. Still waiting for the Mavs offense to show up, eliminate their silly mistakes and hold on to the ball. If they can do that they can win. Sure would be nice to make something of this season.

CenTex22
10-28-2008, 10:45 PM
I would love for Westwood to knock off Cedar Park so things would be clear for the Lions. However, this district never ceases to stress their fans. I would say that if things stay true the scenarios for the next two weeks are endless. My picks for right now would be:

1. Stony Point
2. Round Rock
3. Leander
4. Georgetown

twolf5
10-29-2008, 10:57 AM
Westwood vs Cedar Park- I think Westwood's offense is finally showing what they are capable of, and CP seems to be a divided and injured team.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- SP will win this one easily. I agree with whomever posted earlier about VR's lack of depth finally catching up with them. Especially on that concrete field they play on.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- I am VERY worried about this game after last week's horrible performance by the run D for Georgetown. We should have never lost this game last year, so I am hoping that is some motivation for the Eagles to pull it out and make the playoffs finally.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander is the superior team I think. Leander's D will shut down the anemic McNeil offense and roll by 3 TD's.

I think CP will bounce back this week. We put up 350 yards offense on one of the best high school defenses I've seen. They were every bit as good as Pflugerville's last year that took them to a state championship game. Westwood always has had our number, but I think this year the curse is broken.

Stoney Point will demolish Vista Ridge with their second team. Too many of VR's play makers are on the sideline, and they couldn't have won even with them playing.

Which Round Rock shows up? The one that CP trounced, or the one that beats a good Leander team? If history repeats itself, Round Rock will show up and GT will fade.

Leander beats McNeil handily and sets up a showdown next week with Cedar Park for a playoff spot. At leaset that's what I'm hoping for.

rdz1965
10-29-2008, 05:43 PM
Yah, we need to think about showing up EACH week.

Westwood vs Cedar Park- This game has more meaning for CP then most people realize. These seniors have NEVER seen us beat WW on the varsity level, they have really stabbed us hard the past two years in shocking losses. It all depends however on which CP shows up. The CP who dominates or the CP, who well doesn't really know whats going on.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Stony is good, they can be beat, just not by this team. Prediction: Ridge gains less then 150 yards total, turns it over 3 times ATLEAST.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- this just seems like last years Up to Down ride for the Eagles.

Leander vs Mcneil- Leander is getting ready for their potential Crosstown Showdown for a playoff spot matchup in two weeks. They will not look ahead, however, they may not cruise.

Leander does not look ahead to can't play or should i say cedar park . Leander beats them all the time or at least the last two years. Even in a rebuilding year Leander does better than cedar park. Cedar park fans can come cheer for the only LISD football team playing in the playoffs . It's okay just sit down wind of us. High school football gotta love it.:notworthy:notworthy

velocio
10-29-2008, 05:58 PM
After the Black Rain destroy's the indians this week we are coming after you kittens. Then we are going to tear down your stadium! :ninja:

CCParent
10-29-2008, 06:43 PM
We'll see if Mavs can get mentally and physically ready to close out district play with two very tough games. Still waiting for the Mavs offense to show up, eliminate their silly mistakes and hold on to the ball. If they can do that they can win. Sure would be nice to make something of this season.MM, I thought this year McNeil's offense would be great, it seems to me you're running the ball alot. Which McNeil is showing up this week?

STPFootball2011
10-29-2008, 07:14 PM
After the Black Rain destroy's the indians this week we are coming after you kittens. Then we are going to tear down your stadium! :ninja:

THANK GOD!!!

Eagle Watcher
10-29-2008, 07:57 PM
This week's prediction:

Georgetown's O-line takes over the game and we short pass and run Round Rock to death.

SPTiger09
10-29-2008, 08:56 PM
This week's prediction:

Georgetown's O-line takes over the game and we short pass and run Round Rock to death.

Whoo! Good luck on demoralizing Round Rock! We're definitely pulling for you!! :notworthy

Airstrike
10-29-2008, 09:13 PM
Leander does not look ahead to can't play or should i say cedar park . Leander beats them all the time or at least the last two years. Even in a rebuilding year Leander does better than cedar park. Cedar park fans can come cheer for the only LISD football team playing in the playoffs . It's okay just sit down wind of us. High school football gotta love it.:notworthy:notworthy

To quote a famous movie line, "I fart in your general direction!":D

You know, we might complain a little over at CP because our expectations are high, but even so it's going to be sweet whuppin' up on those PUSSYcats at Leander. Can't play? Yeah, we'll just see about that!:p
Here kitty, kitty, kitty...

CenTex22
10-29-2008, 09:44 PM
Leander will take care of CP for the third straight year. Leander is the class of LISD and has been for most of the decade.

xtreme
10-29-2008, 10:17 PM
Leander does not look ahead to can't play or should i say cedar park . Leander beats them all the time or at least the last two years. Even in a rebuilding year Leander does better than cedar park. Cedar park fans can come cheer for the only LISD football team playing in the playoffs . It's okay just sit down wind of us. High school football gotta love it.:notworthy:notworthy

My momma told me to never sit down wind of a mobile home.;)

twolf5
10-29-2008, 10:19 PM
Leander will take care of CP for the third straight year. Leander is the class of LISD and has been for most of the decade.

It's not going to happen this year for Leander. I'm more worried about how Westwood is playing now than Leander. If we can get past Westwood I think CP beats LHS by 14 points. You cannot imagine the number of kids (starters) we are getting back this week and next that haven't played for weeks. We kicked the crap out of Round Rock with at least half of our starting defense on the sideline. That won't be the case in week 10.

cpack7
10-29-2008, 10:45 PM
Funniest sign I have ever seen at a high school football game was at last year's CP-Leander tilt. Over by the endzone closest to the school on the visitor's (Leander) side it said "Mess with one, mess with the whole trailer park!" I just about fell over laughing at how the Leanderthals were dissing themselves!!! Sounded like something Nimrod Ramirez would say!

Eagle Watcher
10-30-2008, 01:10 PM
It's not going to happen this year for Leander. I'm more worried about how Westwood is playing now than Leander. If we can get past Westwood I think CP beats LHS by 14 points. You cannot imagine the number of kids (starters) we are getting back this week and next that haven't played for weeks. We kicked the crap out of Round Rock with at least half of our starting defense on the sideline. That won't be the case in week 10.

Having played Westwood and Leander in the last two weeks, I would advise caution with both. They are on a roll and I don't think farting in their general direction is going to do much except make them hold their breath as they run by:)

CPMScoach
10-30-2008, 01:12 PM
Having played Westwood and Leander in the last two weeks, I would advise caution with both. They are on a roll and I don't think farting in their general direction is going to do much except make them hold their breath as they run by:)

oh trust me! if ANYONE in 16-5a knows about Westwood...it is Cedar Park.

Eagle Watcher
10-30-2008, 04:04 PM
THANK GOD!!!

Amen to that!

Shamu85
10-30-2008, 05:16 PM
This week's prediction:

Georgetown's O-line takes over the game and we short pass and run Round Rock to death.

I hope you're right EW, but did you read the article in the Williamson Co Sun? It said the O-line is beat up after, and was a little before, the Leander game. I think we have got to get our running game going this week for sure.

STPFootball2011
10-30-2008, 10:30 PM
Funniest sign I have ever seen at a high school football game was at last year's CP-Leander tilt. Over by the endzone closest to the school on the visitor's (Leander) side it said "Mess with one, mess with the whole trailer park!" I just about fell over laughing at how the Leanderthals were dissing themselves!!! Sounded like something Nimrod Ramirez would say!
does leander have a lot of trailer parks or something?:confused:

cpack7
10-30-2008, 10:55 PM
...in years past, one could say there were a few "homes with wheels" located around the Leander area! However, the fast growth of subdivisions in that area kinda scattered them further out. Out to be a fun game with a lot of implications since CP just destroyed Westwood 42-10. I think at one point it was 35-0. Nice to see part of the original team we thought we were going to have at the beginning of the year finally play again. That Minor kid (#10) really looked good considering he has been out since the zero week.

rdz1965
10-31-2008, 07:54 AM
My momma told me to never sit down wind of a mobile home.;)

Was that before or after she hugged you and you jumped out of your trailers front door because your steps haven't been delivered yet.

rdz1965
10-31-2008, 07:59 AM
After the Black Rain destroy's the indians this week we are coming after you kittens. Then we are going to tear down your stadium! :ninja:

What's up with this black rain stuff , you guys are timberwolves and as far as tearing down our stadium , Pay us our rent first and then you can proceed. The funny thing about this whole stadium issue is that your new stadium will be an exact replica of Leanders new one. I guess If you can't play like Leander at least you can have a new stadium that looks just like ours. Oh and by the way Leander will still collect rent from you for the new stadium you will be playing in. We need to buy some spinners for the new trailers.:notworthy:notworthy

TWolves3430
10-31-2008, 08:27 AM
To RDZ: you really dont want to start the argument about whose tax base supports who do you? Cedar Park-Steiner Ranch vs. Leanders? As for rent, we should be PAID to play in that dump that has passed for YOUR stadium. This would be the same stadium that a RR student fell through and was severly injured several years ago? The same turf that has ended or shortend many HS football careers?

OMG Cedar Park is getting a new stadium, we must, uh, thats it "We have lead paint" and must demolish and rebuild new! As I believe the quote went "we don't try to keep up with the Jones' we are the Jones'." Ya'all just iron your clean tshirt, brush your tooth and come on to the game.

Eagle Watcher
10-31-2008, 09:52 AM
I hope you're right EW, but did you read the article in the Williamson Co Sun? It said the O-line is beat up after, and was a little before, the Leander game. I think we have got to get our running game going this week for sure.

Everyone is beat up including our O-Line, I just think it is time to overcome the injuries and get this team back to being able to control the clock. Gilleland and his crew of very young, and very talented receivers can score anytime and anywhere. The line has provided excellent protection for him all season.

If our running backs and line can regain the same level of performance they had earlier in the season, this team can go a long way. That's not saying they are doing bad, we just need them to step it up a level and get this team in the playoffs. I'm betting this is the game that they step up!

velocio
10-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Top 10 Reasons to Know You're from Leander
1. Your dog rides in your truck more than your wife.
2. You wear specific hats to farm sales, livestock auctions, customer appreciation suppers, and vacations.
3. You have ever had to wash off in the backyard with a garden hose before your wife would let you in the house.
4. You've never thrown away a 5-gallon bucket.
5. You can remember the fertilizer rate, seed population, herbicide rate and yields on a farm you rented 10 years ago, but cannot recall your wife's birthday.
6. You have used a velvet leaf plant as toilet paper.
7. You have driven off the road while examining your neighbors crops.
8. You have borrowed gravel from the county road to fill potholes in your driveway.
9. You have buried a dog and cried like a baby.
10. You've used the same knife to make bull calves steers and peel apples.:D:D:D

mcneilmav
10-31-2008, 10:34 AM
What does all this back and forth have to do with high school football???

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 11:29 AM
What does all this back and forth have to do with high school football???

Nothing.

They call me a "fool" for talking about our poor execution, yet they say those awful things.

Stupid.

This is a football website, not a "show no class" website.

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 11:32 AM
By the way Twolf5 and Velocio.

THAT last night was what I have been asking for week in and week out.

I said it last year, if Ross lets Russo be an ACTUAL QUARTERBACK, and give it too our BRUISING fullbacks and mixes up our offense...WE CAN BEAT ANYONE.

Granted Westwood isnt the cream of the crop, but come on, that was a RHOMPING.

If he can do that next week, Leander will fall, and fall hard.

However, that is a big IF.

Oh and to RDZ, Black Rain is a nickname for the defense.

Steel Curtain.
Purple People Eaters.

We get helmet stickers for good defensive plays that look like rain drops and lightning bolts, hence BLACK RAIN.

twolf5
10-31-2008, 11:41 AM
By the way Twolf5 and Velocio.

THAT last night was what I have been asking for week in and week out.

I said it last year, if Ross lets Russo be an ACTUAL QUARTERBACK, and give it too our BRUISING fullbacks and mixes up our offense...WE CAN BEAT ANYONE.

Granted Westwood isnt the cream of the crop, but come on, that was a RHOMPING.

If he can do that next week, Leander will fall, and fall hard.

However, that is a big IF.

Oh and to RDZ, Black Rain is a nickname for the defense.

Steel Curtain.
Purple People Eaters.

We get helmet stickers for good defensive plays that look like rain drops and lightning bolts, hence BLACK RAIN.

And what you don't understand is when the things you want don't happen, there's usually a reason that neither you or I know about. Coach Ross doesn't go from being an idiot one week to brilliant the next to an idot the next week to brilliant the next.

What you think you see is never the entire story, but that's why you can be a student and shrug it off when you go home. No pressure, just arm chair QB'ing.

In general, arm chair QB's don't have a clue about what's really going on.

CCParent
10-31-2008, 01:04 PM
To RDZ: you really dont want to start the argument about whose tax base supports who do you? Cedar Park-Steiner Ranch vs. Leanders? As for rent, we should be PAID to play in that dump that has passed for YOUR stadium. This would be the same stadium that a RR student fell through and was severly injured several years ago? The same turf that has ended or shortend many HS football careers?

OMG Cedar Park is getting a new stadium, we must, uh, thats it "We have lead paint" and must demolish and rebuild new! As I believe the quote went "we don't try to keep up with the Jones' we are the Jones'." Ya'all just iron your clean tshirt, brush your tooth and come on to the game.Very nice come back.:notworthy:):)

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 01:21 PM
And what you don't understand is when the things you want don't happen, there's usually a reason that neither you or I know about. Coach Ross doesn't go from being an idiot one week to brilliant the next to an idot the next week to brilliant the next.

What you think you see is never the entire story, but that's why you can be a student and shrug it off when you go home. No pressure, just arm chair QB'ing.

In general, arm chair QB's don't have a clue about what's really going on.

Ah see my friend you are putting words in my mouth. I love Coach Ross, i never called him an idiot, I said on a week to week basis I question things he does. The way he approached this game was WAY WAY WAY different than last week, you could see that off the bat. You CANNOT deny that sir.

Last I checked you are also not playing the game therefore, you can only THINK you are the one who "has a clue whats going on".

I am fairly sure the players who I have talked about Russo, Dockery etc., are aware WHAT is going on and WHY.
I say this because last night I heard a few things...
One to the Russo family was..."It is nice seeing them let Drew be an actual QUARTERBACK, not just a running back."
I also heard people talking to Dockerys about how much more effective the team is when Landon AND the fullbacks (Willard) are all mixed into the game.

I have been saying it all along. I know ALL of these players, I go to school with them. They say it too, the execution at times is questionable (really offense, everyone needs to credit how outstanding the "Black Rain" has been this year). It is not just a win loss thing either, I thought as a whole the Lake Travis game was played with near perfection, it just happened they were better that not. Even if we had still lost to Stony Point, all I wanted was to not have our team embarssed even though you and I know sir that this team is capable of GREAT things. It is about execution, they executed PERFECTLY last night, and regardless if that was against Westwood who isn't the sharpest tool in the 16-5a tool box, the way they played last night was the way a district champ plays.

I dont wanna sit here and argue with you, I am just saying I get disregarded for things I, Airstrike, TWolves etc. all say. I feel alot of it is ridiculous, we don't just make this stuff up. In the end see EVERY game multiple times from more than one a single angle, I am not just throwing a bunch of uneducated facts out here.

twolf5
10-31-2008, 02:19 PM
Coaches aren't perfect and certainly make mistakes, and the kids just might not be as good as their parents think they are sometimes. I don't want to be critical of kids who are busting their butts to do their best, so I'll just leave this here.

I completely dissagree with you that the approach to this game was different than last week. Last week we played a team that DOMINATED US inside with the best defensive line I've ever seen since I've been watching central texas football. I heard somone say Russo tripped on the goal line. Yes he tripped over the head of the Nose Guard that blew up our center on his way to the backfield.

Last week we saw the exact same approach in outside running, attempted passing, option that we don't do very well. The major difference was an inside running game that in my opinion had less to do with a "philosophy" and MUCH more to do with the fact that we were getting demolished in the middle.

so my point earlier was there are reasons things may not happen beyond just 'stupid coaching'. This is just my observation from decades of watching and playing football.

StillBlazin
10-31-2008, 03:01 PM
Done

RRSP1
10-31-2008, 03:27 PM
In just a few more hours, we can move on to the 16-5A Week 10 thread. ;)

Everyone have a good time tonight, play hard, don't eat too much candy, stay safe, don't take it all for granted, and have fun! :)

velocio
10-31-2008, 03:32 PM
Good first post StillBlazin! I couldn't have said it any better. Mr CPMSCoach, although no doubt a great fan, is a little immature in his posts and doesn't always follow sound logic. But we love him anyway.

I would even stick up for him now and then if only he would ever make a valid point where none of his theories contradicted one another.

Go Wolves!

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 04:51 PM
Good first post StillBlazin! I couldn't have said it any better. Mr CPMSCoach, although no doubt a great fan, is a little immature in his posts and doesn't always follow sound logic. But we love him anyway.

I would even stick up for him now and then if only he would ever make a valid point where none of his theories contradicted one another.

Go Wolves!

Okay SIR, just because YOU think there are DIFFERENT reasons we dont win more games DOESN'T mean YOU are RIGHT. That goes for EVERYONE. All your basically saying is that my football "knowledge" is less advanced and mature as yours.

My friend that last comment just makes me laugh, how many times have I said when we do this this and this we win, then nights like last night further back up what I say? I am not trying to say im a genius, I just feel myself along with my whole student body and most parents I talk to (football parents or not) feel that the issues are pretty obvious and SIMPLE (aside from killer injuries here and there).

But I am sorry, I am in High School, clearly you are the more "mature" one. Hence why you are more RIGHT about football. Because those connect SO well.

Airstrike
10-31-2008, 04:55 PM
Good first post StillBlazin! I couldn't have said it any better. Mr CPMSCoach, although no doubt a great fan, is a little immature in his posts and doesn't always follow sound logic. But we love him anyway.

I would even stick up for him now and then if only he would ever make a valid point where none of his theories contradicted one another.

Go Wolves!

First, I'm glad to see you edited your post to remove that boorish and childish comment.

Second, you have had every bit as many contradictions to some of your arguments, including direct corrections to some of your "facts". Maybe it's hard to comprehend, but not everyone shares your take on things. Support can be demonstrated for each view if you look at it through different "pairs of glasses".

Bottom line, StillBlazin had one valid point about perspective driving each of our respective posts. Unfortunately, he had to show his butt while getting to that point, but hey, that's his butt so maybe he's proud of it.

Our boys played very well last night against a team that fortunately allowed us to gain some confidence and momentum. Thankfully, we didn't have to prove or disprove any point about red zone strategy against a tough defense and we totally kicked WW's backside.

You can bet Leander will be trying to use our perceived weaknesses against us next week, and I would be ecstatic if what they see in film from our losses turns out to be a ruse. I do expect and hope we have our best game of the year to knock them out of the playoff race.

Yes, Go Wolves!

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 05:13 PM
Dedrick "get's his carries" because he averages 8 FREAKIN ypc!!!!!! He has more yards than any other back in the Austin area. Read the paper every now and then.

Why don't YOU read the paper. No...he does not. Princeton Collins does. I just say in order for Dedrick to do his "thang", other aspects of the offense need to be opened up. Kind of like ANY superstar running back...

Dockery has a bad knee and only practices about half the time. Duh, I wonder why they don't give him the ball more? Duh duh duh, maybe because they want him to last the whole year.

HAHAHAHA! THAT IS SO MADE UP! I AM FRIENDS WITH Dockery! That is SO untrue. He practices ALL the time! Where did you EVEN get that from? He has HAD knee problems but wow, that was SUCH an uneducated statement.

And news flash.....Our QB is our TE. And he manages the game quite well, but a QB he is not. He throws to the sideline well. That's it. Anything deep and across the middle is suspect. Sure, he connects from time to time. He's not terrible.

No he can be good wanna know why? NEWS FLASH: He was a QB Freshman year, Sophomore, our backup last year, and now is the QB. Oh and he was the QB in 8th grade too.

But, and this is as obvious as it can be to anyone who knows anything about this game, Coach Ross hands to the ball to arguably the best TB in Central Texas behind one of the best O-Lines in Central Texas. Maybe we should spread it out and throw it all the time like Westwood. That worked out well for them.

That is never what I say, I just say we should open up more aspects of the game. It seems to work well (see Westlake, VR, Round Rock, Westwood games etc.).

I get sick and tired of parents who come on here, don't print their name and bad mouth a bunch of people who care about your kids on a level you will never understand. Gutless and clueless.

Hmmmmm, sorry wouldnt know what its like to be a parent.

Gee, I wonder why Dockery and Drew's families were happy to see them involved more....because those are their children!!!! Gosh, I am trying real hard not to name call here, but idiot keeps coming to mind.

My point was people, many people, were telling them that! People have been aware of what it takes for us to win, or to at least COMPETE.

Tell you what, how about you just support our kids unconditionally, support their coaches who have done an incredible job of helping their players overcome adversity (over 12 serious injuries)and have taught them to do the right thing and be good men.

They are all GOOD coaches, but who says you cant question them? I am in High School and even I know to build off criticizism. Its great the lessons they have been tought however...

The players (especially these seniors) dont CARE about adversity. I sit next to them at lunch and in classes THEY WANT TO WIN. They know they can win. Especially the seniors. Take someone like Minor who was lost for most of the year, he didn't have fun, he wanted to be out there and WIN. In the future years what will us seniors care more about? How they overcame injuries or how they well they played? How well they played.

But I have said this all along, I do not just bash the coaches execution whenever they loose. I just want competitive GAMES. This team CAN win and SHOULD win.

Oh and one other thing, shut your mouth because you are on another planet when it comes to the reality of the situation. You are a cancer and detriment to the progress of the program. Dont wet your britches when your little Johnny is playing as much or getting the ball as much as you would like. Their might just be a reason for it (like injuries, lack of ability, the guy who plays in front of him is just better.) I know, hard to swallow, most people don't like to live in the real world. They just make up whatever perspective benefits them the most.

Okay, got it captain. No one gets on this website (players coaches) and starts crying or worrying about it during the game. This is here to talk football and your, which i have done. The sport is here to watch and be entertained by. I am sorry I am not allowed to voice my opinion, but you are SO educated CLEARLY, I should just back down now.

Ahh, I feel better.:cool:[/QUOTE]

Lets move on to tonight.

GO LEANDER! :p

sorry McNeilMavs :) haha

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 05:17 PM
First, I'm glad to see you edited your post to remove that boorish and childish comment.

Second, you have had every bit as many contradictions to some of your arguments, including direct corrections to some of your "facts". Maybe it's hard to comprehend, but not everyone shares your take on things. Support can be demonstrated for each view if you look at it through different "pairs of glasses".

Bottom line, StillBlazin had one valid point about perspective driving each of our respective posts. Unfortunately, he had to show his butt while getting to that point, but hey, that's his butt so maybe he's proud of it.

Our boys played very well last night against a team that fortunately allowed us to gain some confidence and momentum. Thankfully, we didn't have to prove or disprove any point about red zone strategy against a tough defense and we totally kicked WW's backside.

You can bet Leander will be trying to use our perceived weaknesses against us next week, and I would be ecstatic if what they see in film from our losses turns out to be a ruse. I do expect and hope we have our best game of the year to knock them out of the playoff race.

Yes, Go Wolves!

Thank you thank you thank you.

Someone with sense here.

I dont wanna fight with our fans!

But it has just gotten ridiculous on here.

THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD, OPINIONS ARE ALLOWED!

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 05:49 PM
Anyways enough of CP. Thats last night.

Any way we can get some good game updates on this thread tonight?

velocio
10-31-2008, 06:06 PM
Okay SIR, just because YOU think there are DIFFERENT reasons we dont win more games DOESN'T mean YOU are RIGHT. That goes for EVERYONE. All your basically saying is that my football "knowledge" is less advanced and mature as yours.

My friend that last comment just makes me laugh, how many times have I said when we do this this and this we win, then nights like last night further back up what I say? I am not trying to say im a genius, I just feel myself along with my whole student body and most parents I talk to (football parents or not) feel that the issues are pretty obvious and SIMPLE (aside from killer injuries here and there).

But I am sorry, I am in High School, clearly you are the more "mature" one. Hence why you are more RIGHT about football. Because those connect SO well.


You welcome. ;)

velocio
10-31-2008, 06:52 PM
First, I'm glad to see you edited your post to remove that boorish and childish comment.

Second, you have had every bit as many contradictions to some of your arguments, including direct corrections to some of your "facts". Maybe it's hard to comprehend, but not everyone shares your take on things. Support can be demonstrated for each view if you look at it through different "pairs of glasses".

Bottom line, StillBlazin had one valid point about perspective driving each of our respective posts. Unfortunately, he had to show his butt while getting to that point, but hey, that's his butt so maybe he's proud of it.

Our boys played very well last night against a team that fortunately allowed us to gain some confidence and momentum. Thankfully, we didn't have to prove or disprove any point about red zone strategy against a tough defense and we totally kicked WW's backside.

You can bet Leander will be trying to use our perceived weaknesses against us next week, and I would be ecstatic if what they see in film from our losses turns out to be a ruse. I do expect and hope we have our best game of the year to knock them out of the playoff race.

Yes, Go Wolves!

Not sure what "facts" you are referring to that were corrected, or what your view of my "take on things" is. All I have ever said was quit calling out the coach on this board. (If you did this, then obviously, I'm talking to you.)

Please, please, please go share and discuss your "opinions" with coach. His insight, experience and strategies will amaze you. If you have never heard him first hand discuss his game plan, our opponents strengths and weaknesses, or what we are trying to do to exploit those weaknesses, then you are missing a rare opportunity.

Also, please, take just a moment consider these two things. 1. Quality of opposition and 2. execution on our part. Injuries or not, it really all comes down to those two things.

Don't take my word for it, go talk to coach.

CPMScoach
10-31-2008, 07:23 PM
You welcome. ;)

Ha ha glad we can be mature :).

Not sure what "facts" you are referring to that were corrected, or what your view of my "take on things" is. All I have ever said was quit calling out the coach on this board. (If you did this, then obviously, I'm talking to you.)

Please, please, please go share and discuss your "opinions" with coach. His insight, experience and strategies will amaze you. If you have never heard him first hand discuss his game plan, our opponents strengths and weaknesses, or what we are trying to do to exploit those weaknesses, then you are missing a rare opportunity.

Also, please, take just a moment consider these two things. 1. Quality of opposition and 2. execution on our part. Injuries or not, it really all comes down to those two things.

Don't take my word for it, go talk to coach.

I do regret at times singling out Ross, it isn't HIM, its the STAFFs execution that I question WHEN i question or make comments. Because he doesn't control EVERYTHING. I have heard some things he has said yes. I don't take his WHOLE game-plan and go "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?". It is just minor simple things that just tend to surprise me.

1. Quality of Opposition:
I take this into effect, i LOVED our game against LT, it was GREAT, they just had the better team. Stony is the same, i don't know if we could have won that game, just I KNOW we could have been more competitive. We can be competitive with EVERYONE, we HAVE the talent.

2. Execution:
that is the thing i question when it looks like our team is being put on say, a leash. he has GREAT insight and knowledge, I have personally read some players scouting reports before they are awesome! I just know from time to time (and sir this IS NOT, IS NOT, IS NOT, IS NOT JUST ME!) I do not understand the reasons for some of the things he does (or rather the coaches do). If I come off as "calling him out" then I apologize (also remember for the first few weeks I had other people posting on here who are quite "foolish", so I forgot how bad some things this account said early on ha ha), I just get VERY frustrated with this being my last year. If this team clearly didn't have "it" and couldn't compete, well then hell I wouldn't have complained at all. However, they do have "it" and they can WIN.

Bottom line is we are all entitled to our opinions.
And my opinion is, is that Ross is a great guy and has a great mind and vision for the game.
I just feel a few times this year things have just been very strange and obvious.

In the end here is the deal.
One week to go.
This team and school need to believe.
Everyone, you, twolf, airstrike, twolves, myself, cpack and EVERYONE who knows Cedar Park knows that when this team is "ON", this team has enough to beat just about anyone, and be competitive with EVERYONE.

You just have to Believe. Its sports, sports wouldn't be the same without criticism, arguing and debating. Thats just sports. But again, just believe in our team and our school. As a senior, I do not want this to end for my friends and I. It has been a great road, and I want this team to throw EVERYTHING its' got at EVERY team EVERY game.

If you have anything private to say send a PM. Otherwise the board is yours.

velocio
10-31-2008, 09:18 PM
Well said. You make several valid comments in an honest and balanced post. Good job. I too appologize for being so harsh. I just hope all the "talk" you are hearing is not a sign of a split team with leadership issues.

Granted this has been a very frustrating year for all of us. But unfortunately, it's mostly for reasons beyond our control. I've been there, in fact many of us have as well. Believe me we feel your pain.

But here's the good news. Starting here and now, we get ready to beat leander.


The Black Rain will pour on them a day of doom and double destruction never before seen! Then we make the playoffs and shock the world as we declare immortality and legend with victory upon victory! Go Wolves!

cpack7
10-31-2008, 11:26 PM
...and yes it is time to get ready for something?? With all the crazy losses tonight, we have 4-way tie for third right now (G-town, MCNeil, Cedar Park, Leander) all with 3-3 records. As Ricky would say "oh Luuucy, you got some 'splainin to do"! How does it shake out and who goes?? Are there points for and against in order to break the log jam? Or will it just be head to head?

mcneilmav
10-31-2008, 11:34 PM
Westwood vs Cedar Park- Cedar Park bounces back with an awsome effort after the SP loss.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Well, have to go with SP on this one. The only way VR wins is if SP looks totally past this game to the RR game.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- This could go either way but if SP wins this week and GT wins too, SP clinches the district title. GO EAGLES!

Leandervs McNeil - Most won't make this pick but I saw a very tough McNeil team at the SP game. It will be close.

I was 100% last week :D. Lets see if my picker still works for this week.

You're a guru! Halloween and the Mavs continue their Jeckell/Hyde style. Gotta win next week! Way to bounce back after a tough loss.

Airstrike
10-31-2008, 11:43 PM
Not sure what "facts" you are referring to that were corrected, or what your view of my "take on things" is. All I have ever said was quit calling out the coach on this board. (If you did this, then obviously, I'm talking to you.)

Please, please, please go share and discuss your "opinions" with coach. His insight, experience and strategies will amaze you. If you have never heard him first hand discuss his game plan, our opponents strengths and weaknesses, or what we are trying to do to exploit those weaknesses, then you are missing a rare opportunity.

Also, please, take just a moment consider these two things. 1. Quality of opposition and 2. execution on our part. Injuries or not, it really all comes down to those two things.

Don't take my word for it, go talk to coach.

Been there, done that. It all sounds great, and for the MOST part it is. But the 2 1st and goals inside the 10 (one inside the 5) against SP were in essence mulligans for a similar event against McNeil with the same results. After McNeil, the comment was somewhere along the lines of "if I had to do it all over again, I'd have done it differently." OK, I'll buy that as lessons learned.

Well, 2 times in the same game a couple of weeks later, it still wasn't done differently and then the comment was something like "if I had to do it all over again I would have passed the ball." Say what???? You go ahead and be placated by the same old story if you like. Until I see different, it's the same old approach IN THOSE CRITICAL SITUATIONS. Overall, everything works great in the open field and works great against lesser defenses in the red zone. Against tough defenses stacking up against the run in confined space, not so good. But hey, 7 times up against SP's 8-9 in the box, 7 turnaways. I'm sold because according to you, due to "1. Quality of opposition and 2. execution on our part" we must not be capable of doing anything else. My mistake, I presumed better.

Also my opinion and I'm entitled to it, just as you are to yours. Now, that said, all that is history as we now need to move forward and kick Leander's butts, especially since they got their clocks cleaned by McNeil. How did that happen?

Go Wolves!

mcneilmav
10-31-2008, 11:44 PM
...and yes it is time to get ready for something?? With all the crazy losses tonight, we have 4-way tie for third right now (G-town, MCNeil, Cedar Park, Leander) all with 3-3 records. As Ricky would say "oh Luuucy, you got some 'splainin to do"! How does it shake out and who goes?? Are there points for and against in order to break the log jam? Or will it just be head to head?

Week 10

McNeil @ Gtown
Leander/CP

Winners are in. Doesn't get much better.

Shamu85
10-31-2008, 11:46 PM
I only wish he hadn't gotten the one wrong. Georgetown did not look like a playoff team tonight until late in the 3rd qtr. I am starting to think we have some real injuries the kids are just playing through, and we do not have much depth. I saw half of the kids out there tonight getting up slowly and limping after plays, and Garrett's usual pinpoint accuracy has not been there the last two weeks. He did have some nice throws tonight, but not anythint like the first 6 weeks of the season. We are gonna have to really get after it agains McNeil next week. I would hate for these kids to miss the playoffs after accomplishing so much against so little expectation this year.

twolf5
11-01-2008, 01:11 AM
Been there, done that. It all sounds great, and for the MOST part it is. But the 2 1st and goals inside the 10 (one inside the 5) against SP were in essence mulligans for a similar event against McNeil with the same results. After McNeil, the comment was somewhere along the lines of "if I had to do it all over again, I'd have done it differently." OK, I'll buy that as lessons learned.

Well, 2 times in the same game a couple of weeks later, it still wasn't done differently and then the comment was something like "if I had to do it all over again I would have passed the ball." Say what???? You go ahead and be placated by the same old story if you like. Until I see different, it's the same old approach IN THOSE CRITICAL SITUATIONS. Overall, everything works great in the open field and works great against lesser defenses in the red zone. Against tough defenses stacking up against the run in confined space, not so good. But hey, 7 times up against SP's 8-9 in the box, 7 turnaways. I'm sold because according to you, due to "1. Quality of opposition and 2. execution on our part" we must not be capable of doing anything else. My mistake, I presumed better.

Also my opinion and I'm entitled to it, just as you are to yours. Now, that said, all that is history as we now need to move forward and kick Leander's butts, especially since they got their clocks cleaned by McNeil. How did that happen?

Go Wolves!

To all Cedar Park fans. If we are fortunate enough to beat Leander, and I think we will, we will be in the playoffs against a team that knows NOTHING about us. That is until they get on this site and read the freaking "inside the huddle" report on kids with names and injuries and tendencies and coaches decisions and bla bla bla. Now I know they will get film etc, but they still don't know most of the crap you guys put on this web site.

How about we go back and erase all this stuff and don't give any Houston school we might play any information they could use against us?

Just a thought.

- sTp -
11-01-2008, 01:27 AM
Westwood vs Cedar Park- Cedar Park bounces back with an awsome effort after the SP loss.

Stony Point vs Vista Ridge- Well, have to go with SP on this one. The only way VR wins is if SP looks totally past this game to the RR game.

Georgetown vs Round Rock- This could go either way but if SP wins this week and GT wins too, SP clinches the district title. GO EAGLES!

Leandervs McNeil - Most won't make this pick but I saw a very tough McNeil team at the SP game. It will be close.

I was 100% last week :D. Lets see if my picker still works for this week.

:notworthy wow again, 2 weeks in a row :notworthy

CPMScoach
11-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Well said. You make several valid comments in an honest and balanced post. Good job. I too appologize for being so harsh. I just hope all the "talk" you are hearing is not a sign of a split team with leadership issues.

Granted this has been a very frustrating year for all of us. But unfortunately, it's mostly for reasons beyond our control. I've been there, in fact many of us have as well. Believe me we feel your pain.

But here's the good news. Starting here and now, we get ready to beat leander.


The Black Rain will pour on them a day of doom and double destruction never before seen! Then we make the playoffs and shock the world as we declare immortality and legend with victory upon victory! Go Wolves!

Before the thread is "dead".
Ill just say thanks.
I respect everyone on here, and we all attack out of frustration.
I appreciate what you.

The "talk", is discouraged players because I think at times they feel as if they are on a leash, and they know when off said leash they can win. But trust me, the confidence going into Bible this Friday will be very high.

...oh and go Wolves :).

CPMScoach
11-01-2008, 01:30 PM
To all Cedar Park fans. If we are fortunate enough to beat Leander, and I think we will, we will be in the playoffs against a team that knows NOTHING about us. That is until they get on this site and read the freaking "inside the huddle" report on kids with names and injuries and tendencies and coaches decisions and bla bla bla. Now I know they will get film etc, but they still don't know most of the crap you guys put on this web site.

How about we go back and erase all this stuff and don't give any Houston school we might play any information they could use against us?

Just a thought.

Yep I feel we ALL have revealed a lot haha.

Except for those lies about Dockery not practicing all the time, let them hear that I guess :p.

SP Tiger Backer
11-01-2008, 02:54 PM
:notworthy wow again, 2 weeks in a row :notworthy

Hold the phone! GT lost so I am only 75% this week.

- sTp -
11-01-2008, 06:49 PM
Hold the phone! GT lost so I am only 75% this week.

My bad, I jumped the gun. The scores are more than a little confusing on the board. I spoke too soon. :o

rdz1965
11-02-2008, 08:12 PM
To RDZ: you really dont want to start the argument about whose tax base supports who do you? Cedar Park-Steiner Ranch vs. Leanders? As for rent, we should be PAID to play in that dump that has passed for YOUR stadium. This would be the same stadium that a RR student fell through and was severly injured several years ago? The same turf that has ended or shortend many HS football careers?

OMG Cedar Park is getting a new stadium, we must, uh, thats it "We have lead paint" and must demolish and rebuild new! As I believe the quote went "we don't try to keep up with the Jones' we are the Jones'." Ya'all just iron your clean tshirt, brush your tooth and come on to the game.

Calm down , man it is all about the talking trash , Bible stadium is LISD stadium so it is yours also. Get a grip and let your hair down. Man life is too short to get up tight about trash talking before the Leander and cp game. As long as no one gets hurt during the game and leander wins again. Just enjoy the ride. :notworthy:notworthy and by the way Leander does not want to be like or have what the Jones have.

twolf5
11-02-2008, 08:55 PM
Calm down , man it is all about the talking trash , Bible stadium is LISD stadium so it is yours also. Get a grip and let your hair down. Man life is too short to get up tight about trash talking before the Leander and cp game. As long as no one gets hurt during the game and leander wins again. Just enjoy the ride. :notworthy:notworthy and by the way Leander does not want to be like or have what the Jones have.

Leander might win the coin toss. Oh, I mean Leander is going to smoke Cedar Park again like they do every year!

cpack7
11-02-2008, 10:25 PM
...hey, it is Nimrod, Pinrod, I mean Ramrod Ramirez!!! Good to hear from you, BTW which white t-shirt will you be in this year?? Make sure you gussie up the double-wide, last year at the after game party, we CP visitors to your "hacienda on wheels" were a little taken back by you having a cover charge in order for you to upgrade your septic system!!! Me and Twolvie looking forward to the big game!