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planocat05
11-19-2005, 09:25 PM
so Plano, the underdog, beats SGP and they face midland next week, what are your predictions?..... and where is the game going to be?

baylordad
11-19-2005, 09:33 PM
I was told at the Plano game that the Midland District had won the coin toss. Where I don't know.

Nv8der
11-19-2005, 09:34 PM
Pretty sure its in Abilene

Butch Fifield
11-19-2005, 09:38 PM
Midland needs to spend the week practicing jumping on fumbles.

AllenEagle06
11-19-2005, 09:44 PM
All right! 8-5A lives on!

I'll say
Plano 35
Midland 31

TexasRed6x
11-19-2005, 10:08 PM
Just hoping like hell that Midland wins.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-19-2005, 11:38 PM
Just hoping like hell that Midland wins.

Why is that. Don't like a bunch of hard working kids who went from 0-10 to 12-0 in 2 years?

You need to let your angry feelings go and embrace the Wildcats. They stand for all thats good in America. :)

pshsfan
11-19-2005, 11:46 PM
Why is that. Don't like a bunch of hard working kids who went from 0-10 to 12-0 in 2 years?

You need to let your angry feelings go and embrace the Wildcats. They stand for all thats good in America. :)

that's a pretty bold blanket statement.

crwdude
11-19-2005, 11:57 PM
Midland is now 10-2 - Their 2 losses came against Abilene 31-20 and Lub. Monterey 28-24 (which just gave Abilene a big scare).............west texas teams traditionally aren't that strong, but seeing as Midland lost close to Abilene, I think this could be another nail biter.................but I don't think Plano can have 3+ turnovers AGAIN and win

I'm glad Midland chose to make us go west.............Plano has a mystique of playing out there Midland has no clue about (Permian can tell them about it!) I look forward to making the trip!!!!! Let's put paws all along I-20 and pack Shotwell endzone to endzone!!!!

Mr. Buddy Garrity
11-20-2005, 01:14 AM
Midland by 14......I now have respect for them.

PESHfan
11-20-2005, 01:44 AM
so Plano, the underdog, beats SGP and they face midland next week, what are your predictions?..... and where is the game going to be?

The Wildcats played considerably better today, than they did last week. Still had too many mistakes, but lucky for them SGP couldn't pull it together. Far more impressive than last week's game.

I sure wish they were playing a little bit closer to home. Not sure if we'll be able to zip the 200 miles out to Alilene to see them. We'll have to see how our week goes.

Congratulations in making it to round three. If Plano beats Midland, we will definitely be at the SLC-Plano match-up the following week.

Go Plano!

BulldogLuver
11-20-2005, 08:25 AM
Why is that. Don't like a bunch of hard working kids who went from 0-10 to 12-0 in 2 years?

You need to let your angry feelings go and embrace the Wildcats. They stand for all thats good in America. :)

Whoa...Midland had been like 50 years not in the playoffs before four years ago and our current coach came to us. Plano's in the playoffs all the time. So your saying our kids don't stand for something good in America. That's a pretty cold statement. They are all kids working hard.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 09:30 AM
Whoa...Midland had been like 50 years not in the playoffs before four years ago and our current coach came to us. Plano's in the playoffs all the time. So your saying our kids don't stand for something good in America. That's a pretty cold statement. They are all kids working hard.

Just having fun. MIdland works hard andhas good kids as well. Remember when Midland was in the State Championship losing a Heart Breaker to Judson a few years ago. Plano was going 0-10.

nate
11-20-2005, 09:37 AM
Allowing Judson to complete a Hail Mary to win a few years back should disqualify the Midland team from the playoffs for the next 50 years.

reed35
11-20-2005, 10:15 AM
should be a great game and close.

Plano

Last night was a big crowd and i am not sure if there will room in shotwell for all the people. It looked like we would have over filled Clark. Great crowd.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 10:18 AM
Trying to find stats and info on MIdland's team. Did many searches and found only their teams website but has no info on them. Looks like they have a 1500 yard rushing tailback?

Can anyone help me out on this?

BulldogLuver
11-20-2005, 10:37 AM
You can go to the Midland Reporter Telegram site at mywesttexas.com and get infomration there.

Yes, we have 1500 yard running back. His name is Baron Batch. He commited to Tech a while back. Yesterday he got the record for the most touchdowns by a MHS player in a season...30.

toonman
11-20-2005, 10:52 AM
Trying to find stats and info on MIdland's team. Did many searches and found only their teams website but has no info on them. Looks like they have a 1500 yard rushing tailback?

Can anyone help me out on this?

For your facts on Midland High use this link "www.reporternews.com" - On the home page select "GoFridayNight" from the white horizontal menu bar, this will take you to a great site for all the facts. Select teams from the left side menu, and then look up Midland High. You can then drill down to find team and player stats. If you have problems send me a private message.

I predict a Plano win on this one - Good luck.

TexasRed6x
11-20-2005, 10:55 AM
Could really care less about this game, if I were either Midlan or Plano I would want to lose so I did not have to play SLC, both would get whipped.

lonny23
11-20-2005, 10:55 AM
This will be a good game, but with it being in Abilene the edge goes to Midland.

lonny23
11-20-2005, 10:57 AM
Could really care less about this game, if I were either Midlan or Plano I would want to lose so I did not have to play SLC, both would get whipped.
You always want to win and play another week. No matter who you are, you have a chance to win if you make plays and the other team doesn't. We sure didn't give Clear Lake a chance against Katy last year.

toonman
11-20-2005, 11:02 AM
Could really care less about this game, if I were either Midlan or Plano I would want to lose so I did not have to play SLC, both would get whipped.

I cannot agree with this comment. I played many school sports, sometimes we had good teams, some were not so good - But I always wanted to play the game. Games against the best teams were always special; as you believe this is going to be your chance. I know that being on the receiving end of a huge loss is a painful experience, but witnessing the best close up and being part of that experience is a valuable lesson.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 11:04 AM
Could really care less about this game, if I were either Midlan or Plano I would want to lose so I did not have to play SLC, both would get whipped.

That's great that you don't care enough to make your point on this thread.
Then I guess we won't be seeing any of your intellect on these boards concerning Plano vs Midland.

By the way, someone who wants to lose in life so they can't take on a bigger challenge and shy away from opportunites is destined to have a very empty life. If that is your attitude you have I feel sorry for you.

TexasRed6x
11-20-2005, 11:07 AM
That's great that you don't care enough to make your point on this thread.
Then I guess we won't be seeing any of your intellect on these boards concerning Plano vs Midland.

By the way, someone who wants to lose in life so they can't take on a bigger challenge and shy away from opportunites is destined to have a very empty life. If that is your attitude you have I feel sorry for you.

Nothing concerning about either team, but have change my mind and would really like Plano to win. I think that this would set a great showdwon with SLC, which could get fun.

GO Plano beat the Bulldawgs

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 11:23 AM
My heart says Midland.
My brain says "I have no idea".

If my memory serves me correctly, both teams have stellar offenses. This game might be decided by "who can let the other team get the least amount of points".

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 11:25 AM
Should be a good game and I am looking forward to it. Make no mistake, we all know the tradition of Plano football. I watched them many times in the playoffs. We may be newbies to being in the playoffs but we do OK. I won't make any predictions in this game but I think it will be close. MHS plays in one of the tougher districts in the state and I think that helps when the playoffs come around. Good Luck to both teams and I pray we all stay injury free :)

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 11:26 AM
My heart says Midland.
My brain says "I have no idea".

If my memory serves me correctly, both teams have stellar offenses. This game might be decided by "who can let the other team get the least amount of points".

Plano's defense has played very well the all year and they are finally healthy with all 11 senior starters back on the field. Very good run defense and secondard is a bend but not break. They don't give up the big play.

I agree the team who gives up the least amount points will win. :D

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 11:27 AM
Allowing Judson to complete a Hail Mary to win a few years back should disqualify the Midland team from the playoffs for the next 50 years.


:rolleyes: there is one in every crowd

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 11:29 AM
Could really care less about this game, if I were either Midlan or Plano I would want to lose so I did not have to play SLC, both would get whipped.


I'm sorry, did SLC get a bye for this week? I thought they had to beat Abilene High first :rolleyes:

lonny23
11-20-2005, 11:31 AM
I'm sorry, did SLC get a bye for this week? I thought they had to beat Abilene High first :rolleyes:
Abilene is going to play those guys tough.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 12:11 PM
I believe Plano will be the consensus favorite in this game. Plano matches up well with Midland when it comes to defending the run. Midlands passing game relys on short routes with high percentage passes with alot of play action.

Plano's stengths is it's run defense all seniors with a good rotation nickle package on passing downs. Great DE's and strong LB core with a fast hard hitting secondary that causes turnovers (7 total in last 2 weeks alone). Watch out for Joiner he will lay a hit on you something fierce. Just ask Willams of SGP in the 4 quarter who knocked him out of game. Perfect match up against a running team like Midland which as 4 to 1 rush to pass yardage ratio.

Plano's offense has been consitent all year. Tailback Jordan gets stronger as the game goes on and showed he could get to the outside on a fast athletic SGP team. In fact last nights game was his most carries in a game all year with 23-134, he is also a threat out of the backfield. Wide Lott is the best wideout Plano has ever had. The 2 touchdowns he scored against SGP last night showed his versatility. Streaking past SGP secondary on the 58 yarder showed his speed. Then the 2nd catch for TD just before the half where he jumped up between two defenders and caught the ball with his right hand and rested the ball on his right shoulder pad as he went down. WOW!! Highligt reel material for sure. Then you have Rideaux 6-2 athletic other wideout who averages 26 yards a receipition on 23 receiptions for the year.

Finally, QB Sfikas makes the Plano option game go. Strong tough kid who is the protype Plano QB. Hard runner who runs the option well. Even though he is 5-9 180 he has a very nice arm and has over 1100 yards passing this year which is huge for Plano. Keeps team a bit more honest just ask SGP after lotts 1st touchdown catch the running game started to open up big time.

Great special teams!! Only issue is turnovers 7 the last 2 weeks. They cannot continue to turn the ball over and expect to win against better competition.

IF Plano has no turnovers against Midland on Saturday Plano will win a good hard fought game by 10. :)

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 01:48 PM
You seem to discout MHS's defense which has given up a total of 12 points in the playoffs. We are fast and hit hard also....ask North Crowley. The reason we didn't pass more in the Amarillo game was because of the 25 to 30 mph winds. Everyone we play lines up to stop our D1 back with 8 and 9 in the box. No ones done it yet. You may slow him down a little but he will break a long run and when he gets in the secondary ...say good bye. I expect a good game but in no way do I think Plano is a better team than us right now. I think they are pretty even but thats why we play the game. Good luck to thos traveling and to all our boys playing for both teams

RebDawg
11-20-2005, 02:03 PM
Midland by 14......I now have respect for them.

Oh no Scooter, I sure wish you would pick Plano. Your last 2 picks seem to have helped the Dawgs... :D

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 02:04 PM
Allowing Judson to complete a Hail Mary to win a few years back should disqualify the Midland team from the playoffs for the next 50 years.

My vote for the STUPID POST OF THE DAY award. :eek:

Tejasnole
11-20-2005, 02:15 PM
Obviously you don't know a lot about Plano's Defense. We have stopped running backs all year. Have you heard of Pierce probably not, your a fair weather fan. Stop being biased and smell the roses. Plano outmatches Midland. Our D is better than any d you faced all year. Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played. Prepare for a good game by the cats. They will not let midland get anything happening.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 02:26 PM
You seem to discout MHS's defense which has given up a total of 12 points in the playoffs. We are fast and hit hard also....ask North Crowley. The reason we didn't pass more in the Amarillo game was because of the 25 to 30 mph winds. Everyone we play lines up to stop our D1 back with 8 and 9 in the box. No ones done it yet. You may slow him down a little but he will break a long run and when he gets in the secondary ...say good bye. I expect a good game but in no way do I think Plano is a better team than us right now. I think they are pretty even but thats why we play the game. Good luck to thos traveling and to all our boys playing for both teams

You obviously know nothing about Plano to predict that Midland is the better team. Just wait, you'll find out soon enough why Plano is 12-0 going on 13!

RebDawg
11-20-2005, 02:26 PM
I think you will find Midland High players and fans don't talk a lot of smack. They just go play the game and so far "have got er done". ;)

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 02:30 PM
I think you will find Midland High players and fans don't talk a lot of smack. They just go play the game and so far "have got er done". ;)

Midland got what done? Made it to the playoffs? Keep patting yourselves on the back because while you're doing that, Plano is going to run you over on our way to SLC.

toonman
11-20-2005, 02:47 PM
I take Plano to win this. A 12-0 team always looks better than 10-2 (on paper at least). MHS 2 losses were to Abilene (expected) and Lubbock Monterey (unexpected?), but as we have seen Lubbock Monterey took Abilene in OT before losing in the play-offs. Most of MHS other regular season wins were by big margins. Plano however were also winning their regular season games by big margins, until the last game vs Flower Mound which was won by a margin of 4 points. In addition both Plano play-offs games were won by a touchdown margin or less. In fact Plano last 3 games were won by a combined margin of 15 points. I still take Plano because winning is a good habit to get into and is not easily broken.

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 02:55 PM
I take Plano to win this. A 12-0 team always looks better than 10-2 (on paper at least). MHS 2 losses were to Abilene (expected) and Lubbock Monterey (unexpected?), but as we have seen Lubbock Monterey took Abilene in OT before losing in the play-offs. Most of MHS other regular season wins were by big margins. Plano however were also winning their regular season games by big margins, until the last game vs Flower Mound which was won by a margin of 4 points. In addition both Plano play-offs games were won by a touchdown margin or less. In fact Plano last 3 games were won by a combined margin of 15 points. I still take Plano because winning is a good habit to get into and is not easily broken.

WEAK DISTRICT. Gimme a break! Midland by double digits. :)

WildcatFan
11-20-2005, 02:56 PM
I do not know much about the current Midland Bulldawgs, but as a former Arlington Lamar Viking in the late 80's early 90's I remember having to travel to play Lee and we lost to Permian twice that would have sent us to state.

Although Lee and Permian are down, I have much respect for West Texas Football and although I am rooting for Plano and think they will win we should not take this game for granted.

Midland losing a close game to Abilene itself tells me they are a skillful team that came up short...it happens. In addition at this stage of the playoffs it takes more than luck to advance to the third round.

This game will be a good one and I will hold off making any pre-game predictions I advise the same for my fellow Wildcat Fans and players. Stay focused and play your game and the scoreboard will tell the story at the end.

At least it will be a road trip and thats half the fun.

Go Cats!

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 02:59 PM
Midland got what done? Made it to the playoffs? Keep patting yourselves on the back because while you're doing that, Plano is going to run you over on our way to SLC.

Plano will never see SLC this year in the playoffs. ;)

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 03:02 PM
Obviously you don't know a lot about Plano's Defense. We have stopped running backs all year. Have you heard of Pierce probably not, your a fair weather fan. Stop being biased and smell the roses. Plano outmatches Midland. Our D is better than any d you faced all year. Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played. Prepare for a good game by the cats. They will not let midland get anything happening.


"Stop being biased and smell the roses." You first :rolleyes:

"Plano outmatches Midland" whatever makes you feel safe :p

"Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played." You don't know a damn thing about our defense :rolleyes:

You gotta be a kid because this smack is just juvenile

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 03:04 PM
You obviously know nothing about Plano to predict that Midland is the better team. Just wait, you'll find out soon enough why Plano is 12-0 going on 13!

and you know absolutely nothing about MHS....you will get your chance to find out Saturday :D

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Midland got what done? Made it to the playoffs? Keep patting yourselves on the back because while you're doing that, Plano is going to run you over on our way to SLC.

I'm sorry but what has Plano done? Made it to the playoffs? Sounds like the same to me. The funny thing is that the game after this one will be a rematch of Abilene High and Midland High :D

When was the last time Plano made it this deep in the playoffs? I don't think we are the ones breaking our arm patting ourselves on the back :rolleyes:

WildcatFan
11-20-2005, 03:08 PM
"Stop being biased and smell the roses." You first :rolleyes:

"Plano outmatches Midland" whatever makes you feel safe :p

"Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played." You don't know a damn thing about our defense :rolleyes:

You gotta be a kid because this smack is just juvenile

He is a bit juvenile I just hope he is not one of our players. As a Plano fan we are looking forward to the honor of playing Midland and my gut tells me it will be a close hard fought game.

Obviously I hope our CATS pull it out, and we look forward to seeing you in Abeline next Saturday!

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 03:11 PM
He is a bit juvenile I just hope he is not one of our players. As a Plano fan we are looking forward to the honor of playing Midland and my gut tells me it will be a close hard fought game.

Obviously I hope our CATS pull it out, and we look forward to seeing you in Abeline next Saturday!


I am with you ..except the last part ;) I know how exciting it is to watch these kids play after all the hard work. I really hope some of our juvenile posters don't come on here and try to trash talk but I won't be surprised. Have a safe trip to Abilene and heres to a packed stadium and a well played game

toonman
11-20-2005, 03:22 PM
WEAK DISTRICT. Gimme a break! Midland by double digits. :)

District 3 has one very good team - Abilene and one good team MHS - the others; Odessa Permian, Odessa High, Lee and Cooper with a combined regular season record of 20-20, are not good. District 3 cannot be considered strong with only 50% of teams with winning regular season records. (Lee with a losing record of 4-6 went to the play-offs; Odessa High had 7-3 but did not make the play-offs because of their district record) District 8, with 8 teams, of which 5 had wining records, one other went 5-5 and 2 with losing records - this gives District 8, 68.75% of district teams with winning regular season records. District 8 is stronger than District 3.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 03:30 PM
I'm sorry but what has Plano done? Made it to the playoffs? Sounds like the same to me. The funny thing is that the game after this one will be a rematch of Abilene High and Midland High :D

When was the last time Plano made it this deep in the playoffs? I don't think we are the ones breaking our arm patting ourselves on the back :rolleyes:

What has Plano done?

Plano has turned a 0-10 program into a 12-0 team.

Plano has silenced the critics numerous times during district play and during the playoffs.

Beat a team with more D-1 recruits than I can count on both hands who during district play dethrowned an undefeated Top 10 ranked school

Payed back every team who beat them in the 2003 season with a big L!!

Proved that their defense is arguably #1 in the state.

Proved that Plano is not so "overrated".

Proved that Plano is not 12-0 because of a weak scheduled.

Proved that Plano has the athletes to be a state championship team despite the size of their players and lack of D1 recruits.

Proved that their offensive attack is not so one dimensional.

And lastly, HAS PLAYED WITH MORE HEART AND DRIVE THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THIS DIVISION AND WILL NOT STOP WITH MIDLAND!!!!

lonny23
11-20-2005, 03:41 PM
District 3 has one very good team - Abilene and one good team MHS - the others; Odessa Permian, Odessa High, Lee and Cooper with a combined regular season record of 20-20, are not good. District 3 cannot be considered strong with only 50% of teams with winning regular season records. (Lee with a losing record of 4-6 went to the play-offs; Odessa High had 7-3 but did not make the play-offs because of their district record) District 8, with 8 teams, of which 5 had wining records, one other went 5-5 and 2 with losing records - this gives District 8, 68.75% of district teams with winning regular season records. District 8 is stronger than District 3.
The 3rd best district trumps the #11 district. 3 is better than 8. 3 played a better non-district schedule, too.

Bucky
11-20-2005, 03:46 PM
Could really care less about this game, if I were either Midlan or Plano I would want to lose so I did not have to play SLC, both would get whipped.

That's great that you don't care enough to make your point on this thread.
Then I guess we won't be seeing any of your intellect on these boards concerning Plano vs Midland.

By the way, someone who wants to lose in life so they can't take on a bigger challenge and shy away from opportunites is destined to have a very empty life. If that is your attitude you have I feel sorry for you.

I think I've seen this somewhere before....thats right...this has the same tone that you (Plano Wildcat Fan) posted on the Judson vs. O'Connor thread.

I found it No one really cares about 2 average teams other than those 2 teams fans. :)

Have fun with the poll. I didn't vote since i could care less. Judson should win. D1 Region 4 absoultely sucks!! Flowermound would role in that region and they finished 5th in 8-5A. :D


Good Luck to both teams...

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 03:55 PM
"Stop being biased and smell the roses." You first :rolleyes:

"Plano outmatches Midland" whatever makes you feel safe :p

"Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played." You don't know a damn thing about our defense :rolleyes:

You gotta be a kid because this smack is just juvenile

Plano outmatches Midland.

Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played.


These statements are not juvenile, they are reality. If you can't handle reality, don't play the game. Some of us don't take the "pat each other on the back and shake hands politely" approach.

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 04:00 PM
Plano outmatches Midland.

Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played.


These statements are not juvenile, they are reality. If you can't handle reality, don't play the game. Some of us don't take the "pat each other on the back and shake hands politely" approach.

Finishing the year 12-1 is nothing to sneeze at there amigo. Good luck next year. :D

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 04:07 PM
Plano outmatches Midland.

Your D is weak compared to the last 2 d's we played.


These statements are not juvenile, they are reality. If you can't handle reality, don't play the game. Some of us don't take the "pat each other on the back and shake hands politely" approach.

Ok, you are really starting to annoy me.

Plano is a GREAT team. Congrats to them on the 0-10 to 12-0 turnaround. Congrats on the big wins. Congrats on the awesome defense, blah blah blah.

Just because you have bragging rights doesnt mean the game is going to be a solid win for you. Midland is also having a great year. I wonder if you have even seen us play. You are talking about so many facts of Plano, yet none of Midland, can you prove me wrong?

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 04:07 PM
Finishing the year 12-1 is nothing to sneeze at there amigo. Good luck next year. :D

Heard the same thing last week buddy. 12-0 is one hell of a record. 13-0 is even better. 10-3 and turning in your pads on Monday sure sux.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 04:22 PM
Ok, you are really starting to annoy me.

Plano is a GREAT team. Congrats to them on the 0-10 to 12-0 turnaround. Congrats on the big wins. Congrats on the awesome defense, blah blah blah.

Just because you have bragging rights doesnt mean the game is going to be a solid win for you. Midland is also having a great year. I wonder if you have even seen us play. You are talking about so many facts of Plano, yet none of Midland, can you prove me wrong?

Yes, Midland is having a decent year. Losing to Abilene and LM doesn't constitute a GREAT year. Plano will beat Midland. AND if this ride is getting to you, please step off!

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 04:34 PM
Heard the same thing last week buddy. 12-0 is one hell of a record. 13-0 is even better. 10-3 and turning in your pads on Monday sure sux.

13-0 = a record you will never see. Not this year. Pirates usually wear a patch over one eye right? You might feel like covering both eyes instead of watching Plano @ Shotwell. 3-5A is way tougher than that district you play in. I hope you guys can at least score.....once.......maybe your D will get a score 4ya. :D :D :D :cool:.

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 04:36 PM
Yes, Midland is having a decent year. Losing to Abilene and LM doesn't constitute a GREAT year. Plano will beat Midland. AND if this ride is getting to you, please step off!


Saying we arent having a great year by saying we didnt beat Abilene or Lubbock Monterey is a long shot. As well all know, Abilene is a great team, and Lubbock Monterey definitely gave them a run for their money.

edit - oops, spelling

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 04:43 PM
WEAK DISTRICT. Gimme a break! Midland by double digits. :)

3-5a not that strong this year. weak pre-district against to many west texas teams.

hoo2ers
11-20-2005, 04:46 PM
Heard the same thing last week buddy. 12-0 is one hell of a record. 13-0 is even better. 10-3 and turning in your pads on Monday sure sux.
12-1 and tuneing into Judge Judy every afternoon at 3:00 while the 11-2 team that you discount so effortlessly moves on to the next round will not sit well. The bulldawgs will show ready to play. This time of the season is not the time to take any opponent for granted. Here's to a good ballgame.

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 04:46 PM
3-5a not that strong this year. weak pre-district against to many west texas teams.


Abilene, Midland, and Lee(in the end) all had formidable teams. Odessa High always wasnt that far behind. Dont let Permian and Cooper fool you

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 04:48 PM
13-0 = a record you will never see. Not this year. Pirates usually wear a patch over one eye right? You might feel like covering both eyes instead of watching Plano @ Shotwell. 3-5A is way tougher than that district you play in. I hope you guys can at least score.....once.......maybe your D will get a score 4ya. :D :D :D :cool:.

We hear the same thing every week. It's almost comical.

Your district is weak: Who cares? I would argue that district 8-5a is much stronger than 3-5a. But, that is just my opinion. District 6-5a is definately stronger than 3-5a and Plano beat SGP. Everyone thinks their district is the strongest.

Plano won't get to 13-0: We proved the last 12 teams wrong. Midland is next.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 04:53 PM
I think I've seen this somewhere before....thats right...this has the same tone that you (Plano Wildcat Fan) posted on the Judson vs. O'Connor thread.

I found it


Good Luck to both teams...

your quite a researcher. I'm busted. :eek:

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 05:01 PM
12-1 and tuneing into Judge Judy every afternoon at 3:00 while the 11-2 team that you discount so effortlessly moves on to the next round will not sit well. The bulldawgs will show ready to play. This time of the season is not the time to take any opponent for granted. Here's to a good ballgame.

Plano is not taking Midland lightly. That's for sure. The Wildcats will have to come ready to play aggressive mistake-free football on Sat. If not, they will go home. My point is that Plano is a better team than Midland. If both are playing their best games, Plano wins. Plano wants this win badly and more than you will ever realize.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 05:01 PM
I believe Plano will be the consensus favorite in this game. Plano matches up well with Midland when it comes to defending the run. Midlands passing game relys on short routes with high percentage passes with alot of play action.

Plano's stengths is it's run defense all seniors with a good rotation nickle package on passing downs. Great DE's and strong LB core with a fast hard hitting secondary that causes turnovers (7 total in last 2 weeks alone). Watch out for Joiner he will lay a hit on you something fierce. Just ask Willams of SGP in the 4 quarter who knocked him out of game. Perfect match up against a running team like Midland which as 4 to 1 rush to pass yardage ratio.

Plano's offense has been consitent all year. Tailback Jordan gets stronger as the game goes on and showed he could get to the outside on a fast athletic SGP team. In fact last nights game was his most carries in a game all year with 23-134, he is also a threat out of the backfield. Wide Lott is the best wideout Plano has ever had. The 2 touchdowns he scored against SGP last night showed his versatility. Streaking past SGP secondary on the 58 yarder showed his speed. Then the 2nd catch for TD just before the half where he jumped up between two defenders and caught the ball with his right hand and rested the ball on his right shoulder pad as he went down. WOW!! Highligt reel material for sure. Then you have Rideaux 6-2 athletic other wideout who averages 26 yards a receipition on 23 receiptions for the year.

Finally, QB Sfikas makes the Plano option game go. Strong tough kid who is the protype Plano QB. Hard runner who runs the option well. Even though he is 5-9 180 he has a very nice arm and has over 1100 yards passing this year which is huge for Plano. Keeps team a bit more honest just ask SGP after lotts 1st touchdown catch the running game started to open up big time.

Great special teams!! Only issue is turnovers 7 the last 2 weeks. They cannot continue to turn the ball over and expect to win against better competition.

IF Plano has no turnovers against Midland on Saturday Plano will win a good hard fought game by 10. :)


CAn you have some intelligent discussions. This is turning into a Highschool you said she said i'm better than you shout fest without any real content behind hit and it's only Sunday.


At least on my bost above i put something behind my prediction.

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 05:08 PM
Plano is not taking Midland lightly. That's for sure. The Wildcats will have to come ready to play aggressive mistake-free football on Sat. If not, they will go home. My point is that Plano is a better team than Midland. If both are playing their best games, Plano wins. Plano wants this win badly and more than you will ever realize.

Im pretty sure every team wants a win more than anyone realizes right now.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 05:14 PM
Im pretty sure every team wants a win more than anyone realizes right now.

Midland is a speed bump on the way to SLC. Plano has been waiting for that match up all year long.

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 05:24 PM
i play for plano and i love our fans to death... but some of them need to shut the hell because their continuous trash talk is ruining Plano's awesome tradition and class. YES we did turn around an 0-10 team to a 12-0 team in just 2 seasons, which is awesome, but theres no need to ruin the accomplishment by making plano look like jackasses.

I also completely respect the tradition of west texas football and know for a fact that midland will be no easy task and that it will be another long and hardfought game

*but basically all of the plano fans need to stop misrepresenting our school and team by talking smack and looking like jackasses

best of luck to midland next week, but i gaurentee that you will have to play your best game of the year to beat us :)

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 05:26 PM
CAn you have some intelligent discussions. This is turning into a Highschool you said she said i'm better than you shout fest without any real content behind hit and it's only Sunday.


At least on my bost above i put something behind my prediction.

Too true there my friend. Enough sophomore posting from me. Maybe Pirate can play with himself if he can't find anyone else to argue with. ;)

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 05:28 PM
i play for plano and i love our fans to death... but some of them need to shut the hell because their continuous trash talk is ruining Plano's awesome tradition and class. YES we did turn around an 0-10 team to a 12-0 team in just 2 seasons, which is awesome, but theres no need to ruin the accomplishment by making plano look like jackasses.

I also completely respect the tradition of west texas football and know for a fact that midland will be no easy task and that it will be another long and hardfought game

*but basically all of the plano fans need to stop misrepresenting our school and team by talking smack and looking like jackasses

best of luck to midland next week, but i gaurentee that you will have to play your best game of the year to beat us :)

Well said and point taken. Welcome to the board!! :cool:

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 05:28 PM
When was the last time Plano made it this deep in the playoffs? I don't think we are the ones breaking our arm patting ourselves on the back
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4 years ago when we lost to lufkin in the quarterfinals.(lufkin won the state championshap that yr)

oh and i know we really want to play southlake, but stop obsessing over it. if we get past midland and southlake gets past abiline, it will be a great match of old school vs new school

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 05:35 PM
Midland is a speed bump on the way to SLC. Plano has been waiting for that match up all year long.

Saying Midland is going to be a speed bump may be a big mistake. Yes, truth is, you are probably the better team, but to say something that would suggest a blow-out is way out of proportion for this match.

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 05:35 PM
oh and i know we really want to play southlake, but stop obsessing over it. if we get past midland and southlake gets past abilene, it will be a great match of old school vs new school

Even I have to admit that the "old school" versus "new school" is intriguing. :)

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 05:36 PM
i play for plano and i love our fans to death... but some of them need to shut the hell because their continuous trash talk is ruining Plano's awesome tradition and class. YES we did turn around an 0-10 team to a 12-0 team in just 2 seasons, which is awesome, but theres no need to ruin the accomplishment by making plano look like jackasses.

I also completely respect the tradition of west texas football and know for a fact that midland will be no easy task and that it will be another long and hardfought game

*but basically all of the plano fans need to stop misrepresenting our school and team by talking smack and looking like jackasses

best of luck to midland next week, but i gaurentee that you will have to play your best game of the year to beat us :)

Wildcat 27: We are all entitled to our opinions, and how we choose to represent those opinions is our business. If you don't like the opinions presented in the posts, don't read them. However, your contention that you are a player at Plano is highly suspect for various reasons that I will not get into. But, I will take you at your word. But don't expect me to stop expressing my opinion however I choose.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 05:40 PM
Saying Midland is going to be a speed bump may be a big mistake. Yes, truth is, you are probably the better team, but to say something that would suggest a blow-out is way out of proportion for this match.

No blow-out. Close game with Plano on top.

Butch Fifield
11-20-2005, 05:54 PM
but basically all of the plano fans need to stop misrepresenting our school and team by talking smack and looking like jackasses

Thank you.

This is exactly how I feel reading a couple of these guy's posts. All they do is make Plano look bad. Not sure why they like looking like a-holes behind their computers. It is just embarrassing. They have no people skills.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 06:14 PM
Thank you.

This is exactly how I feel reading a couple of these guy's posts. All they do is make Plano look bad. Not sure why they like looking like a-holes behind their computers. It is just embarrassing.

The message boards are open for anyone to post their opinions in the manner they choose. If you don't like the style or the message, then don't read it. My opinions don't reflect the Plano team in any way, and I do not purport to be a representative of Plano football. The opinions expressed are a representation of piratebacker only. AND I will post in any manner that I see fit.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 06:28 PM
What has Plano done?

Plano has turned a 0-10 program into a 12-0 team.

Plano has silenced the critics numerous times during district play and during the playoffs.

Beat a team with more D-1 recruits than I can count on both hands who during district play dethrowned an undefeated Top 10 ranked school

Payed back every team who beat them in the 2003 season with a big L!!

Proved that their defense is arguably #1 in the state.

Proved that Plano is not so "overrated".

Proved that Plano is not 12-0 because of a weak scheduled.

Proved that Plano has the athletes to be a state championship team despite the size of their players and lack of D1 recruits.

Proved that their offensive attack is not so one dimensional.

And lastly, HAS PLAYED WITH MORE HEART AND DRIVE THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THIS DIVISION AND WILL NOT STOP WITH MIDLAND!!!!



congrats but that still doesn't mean anything. Hell we played in the state championship game in 02 and went three rounds deep last year and are doing the same this year. We have D1 players and aren't the slighest bit intimidated with your 12-0 schedule playing metroplex teams. If you had beaten SLC or Euless Trinity, that would be something to be impressed with. Plano does not have the franchise on playing with heart and drive and you will find out Saturday.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 06:35 PM
i play for plano and i love our fans to death... but some of them need to shut the hell because their continuous trash talk is ruining Plano's awesome tradition and class. YES we did turn around an 0-10 team to a 12-0 team in just 2 seasons, which is awesome, but theres no need to ruin the accomplishment by making plano look like jackasses.

I also completely respect the tradition of west texas football and know for a fact that midland will be no easy task and that it will be another long and hardfought game

*but basically all of the plano fans need to stop misrepresenting our school and team by talking smack and looking like jackasses

best of luck to midland next week, but i gaurentee that you will have to play your best game of the year to beat us :)


well said and believe me we respect Plano very much. You guys have done an outstanding job turning the program around and bringing back the championship calibur football that Plano is known for. Until 2002 it was 51 years since we had even been to the playoffs. We look forward to every playoff opportunity and hope we give Plano a good game. If Plano wins we will wish them good luck on winning the title.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 06:43 PM
congrats but that still doesn't mean anything. Hell we played in the state championship game in 02 and went three rounds deep last year and are doing the same this year. We have D1 players and aren't the slighest bit intimidated with your 12-0 schedule playing metroplex teams. If you had beaten SLC or Euless Trinity, that would be something to be impressed with. Plano does not have the franchise on playing with heart and drive and you will find out Saturday.

I saw ET play last night against PESH. Not very impressive. Plano would beat them. Plano beat SGP who beat ET. Plano and Midland play similar types of football. Plano has a defense that can arguably stop any team in the state. I don't see Midland offense getting very far on this one. Besides several early turnovers last night, Plano offense looked very impressive. But Plano will have to minimize the turnovers. Overall, Plano is the better team. Definately a low scoring game with Plano winning.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Plano turns the ball over and it will be a long night for them. It may be a low scoring affair for sure. I like our offensive weapons and if our back gets one step past the line its adios to the house. We can talk on here all we want but that won't put one point on the scoreboard. If my team wins you won't see me on here gloating about it because I am just a fan. If Plano wins I will wish them luck the rest of the way. No matter what happens Saturday we have had a great season and I am proud of my beloved Dawgs :D

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 07:03 PM
Plano turns the ball over and it will be a long night for them. It may be a low scoring affair for sure. I like our offensive weapons and if our back gets one step past the line its adios to the house. We can talk on here all we want but that won't put one point on the scoreboard. If my team wins you won't see me on here gloating about it because I am just a fan. If Plano wins I will wish them luck the rest of the way. No matter what happens Saturday we have had a great season and I am proud of my beloved Dawgs :D

Plano D won't let your back get across the line. Stopped SGP dead in their tracks. Plano is peaking at just the right time. It will be a long night for Midland and a long drive home back to the dawg house.

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 07:04 PM
Plano turns the ball over and it will be a long night for them. It may be a low scoring affair for sure. I like our offensive weapons and if our back gets one step past the line its adios to the house.

i know for a fact that baron batch is an extremely talented rb and coach brence mentioned after saturdays game that the d-line will have to step it up to stop him, but if you havent seen plano play... i beleive you will be very impressed with our offensive weapon, Justin Jordan. this kid is incredibly under-rated and yall better watch out for him too bc if you dont he could end up rushing for well over 200 yards on you. but we will definately have to stop giving the ball away on turnovers if we want to win

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 07:11 PM
i know for a fact that baron batch is an extremely talented rb and coach brence mentioned after saturdays game that the d-line will have to step it up to stop him, but if you havent seen plano play... i beleive you will be very impressed with our offensive weapon, Justin Jordan. this kid is incredibly under-rated and yall better watch out for him too bc if you dont he could end up rushing for well over 200 yards on you. but we will definately have to stop giving the ball away on turnovers if we want to win

I wouldn't say that the Plano defense needs to step it up. They played phenomenally last night- no exaggeration. Would say, though, that they need to focus their attention on Batch.

graveyardpoet
11-20-2005, 07:17 PM
i know for a fact that baron batch is an extremely talented rb and coach brence mentioned after saturdays game that the d-line will have to step it up to stop him, but if you havent seen plano play... i beleive you will be very impressed with our offensive weapon, Justin Jordan. this kid is incredibly under-rated and yall better watch out for him too bc if you dont he could end up rushing for well over 200 yards on you. but we will definately have to stop giving the ball away on turnovers if we want to win

When exactly did Brence say that on Sat? on the bus, or in the locker room, or when? because I missed that.

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 07:29 PM
When exactly did Brence say that on Sat? on the bus, or in the locker room, or when? because I missed that.

bus talking to the other coaches

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 07:36 PM
Hey #27, Smack talk aside. When is the send off for the players on Sat? I want to help cheer the cats on before they leave.

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 07:40 PM
Hey #27, Smack talk aside. When is the send off for the players on Sat? I want to help cheer the cats on before they leave.

im not really sure yet but i heard that we might be leaving on friday and stay overnight. but i'll repost when i find out after practice tomarow

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 08:07 PM
im not really sure yet but i heard that we might be leaving on friday and stay overnight. but i'll repost when i find out after practice tomarow

Hmmm. OK. I'll be waiting for your post.

reed35
11-20-2005, 08:22 PM
Plano is a 3 point underdog.

graveyardpoet
11-20-2005, 08:26 PM
where did you get this info

reed35
11-20-2005, 08:29 PM
where did you get this info
texasfootballratings.com

it is good, they had Plano 2 point underdog to SGP

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 08:29 PM
Plano is a 3 point underdog.

Maybe in Midland. But, last time I checked, the undefeated Plano Wildcats were a 2 TD favorite over the two time losing Midland Dawgs.

reed35
11-20-2005, 08:30 PM
Maybe in Midland. But, last time I checked, the undefeated Plano Wildcats were a 2 TD favorite over the two time losing Midland Dawgs.


nevermind

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 08:33 PM
texasfootballratings.com

it is good, they had Plano 2 point underdog to SGP

Give me a break, man. They also have SGP beating Plano among many other errors. That is not reliable information.

PESHfan
11-20-2005, 08:40 PM
should be a great game and close.

Plano

Last night was a big crowd and i am not sure if there will room in shotwell for all the people. It looked like we would have over filled Clark. Great crowd.


Gotta remember that quite a few of the folks in the crowd last night were actually Plano East fans staying for the second game. Also saw several folks in the stands from SLC. Sizing up the team for a possible game in two weeks???

If the game was a lot closer to Dallas, we might have gone, but 200 miles to Abilene for Plano is more than I can do. The SLC folks won't be there either, because they'll be at TS watching their boys. I'm sure there will also be quite a few Plano fans that won't go that distance for the game. Shotwell Stadium should be plenty big for the game. I sure wish the game would be televised, because I'd love to see it.

Good luck Wildcats!

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 08:46 PM
[QUOTE=PESHfan]Gotta remember that quite a few of the folks in the crowd last night were actually Plano East fans staying for the second game. Also saw several folks in the stands from SLC. Sizing up the team for a possible game in two weeks???
QUOTE]


Thanks for the good wishes. But I have to say that only a handful of people were from PESH and Carroll. Plano had a huge number of fans at that game. I was at all three games and saw the number that stayed.

Eagle Hombre
11-20-2005, 08:47 PM
Gotta remember that quite a few of the folks in the crowd last night were actually Plano East fans staying for the second game. Also saw several folks in the stands from SLC. Sizing up the team for a possible game in two weeks???

If the game was a lot closer to Dallas, we might have gone, but 200 miles to Abilene for Plano is more than I can do. The SLC folks won't be there either, because they'll be at TS watching their boys. I'm sure there will also be quite a few Plano fans that won't go that distance for the game. Shotwell Stadium should be plenty big for the game. I sure wish the game would be televised, because I'd love to see it.

Good luck Wildcats!

Traditionally 3-5A schools travel very well to support their teams, even more so in the playoffs. Midland will have their side covered and keep in mind that Shotwell holds about 19K -- I wouldn't be surprised if they overflow into the Plano side. They'll also be plenty of local support for the Little Southwest Conference team. If Abilene wins Friday night, I can guarantee that they'll be about 17,000 fans screaming for Midland to beat Plano on Saturday.

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 08:50 PM
texasfootballratings.com

it is good, they had Plano 2 point underdog to SGP

i would not rely on this info. this is 5A texas highschool football. anything can happen. throw the prdictions and ratings out of the window.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 08:54 PM
i would not rely on this info. this is 5A texas highschool football. anything can happen. throw the prdictions and ratings out of the window.

Really #27. Funny coming from a Plano football team member. By the way, I found this on another thread:
With almost 25 teams still alive (24 are still out there) we only have 13 from the final list still in.

1 Southlake Carroll
2 Spring Westfield
3 Lufkin
4 Katy
5 Longview -OUT
6 North Shore -OUT
7 Copperas Cove
8 Schertz Clemens- OUT
9 Plano
10 Dallas Carter -OUT
11 Abilene
12 Smithson Valley
13 South Grand Prairie - OUT
14 Euless Trinity
15 Irving MacArthur -OUT
16 Garland
17 Leander -OUT
18 Austin Westlake - OUT
19 Hays Consolidated -OUT
20 Richardson Berkner
21 Pearland -OUT
22 San Marcos - OUT
23 Midland
24 SA Madison
25 Tyler John Tyler -OUT

I'd pick #9 Plano over #23 Midland anyday.

AHSeaglefan87
11-20-2005, 08:56 PM
Plano better be ready for a big dose of Batch. This guy is the real deal...strong runner with blazing speed. If Plano can't stop the run they are in for a long night. Go Dawgs! Roll 3-5A. AHS beat SLC!

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 08:56 PM
I'd pick #9 Plano over #23 Midland anyday.


Did you pick South Garland over Longview?

reed35
11-20-2005, 08:56 PM
i would not rely on this info. this is 5A texas highschool football. anything can happen. throw the prdictions and ratings out of the window.

no kidding??
i said it is good!!! underdog against SGP=pressure,practice,win
underdog against MHS=pressure,practice,win

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 09:00 PM
Maybe in Midland. But, last time I checked, the undefeated Plano Wildcats were a 2 TD favorite over the two time losing Midland Dawgs.

From what site did this piece of wisdom come from my man?? The piratebackersayswhathewants.com?? Give us a source for this TWO TOUCHDOWN favorite. Not that it means SQUAT. I can hardly wait for this. Yawn. :eek: :D

WILDCAT27
11-20-2005, 09:02 PM
[/QUOTE]I'd pick #9 Plano over #23 Midland anyday.[/QUOTE]

hell yea no disrespect to midland at all but plano is definately the better team this year. and i was reffering to the point that we were an underdog despite we are rated higher than midland... the ratings contradict themselves. like you said.. 13 of the top 25 teams are already out, many being beating by much lower ranked teams leading to my point that anything can happen in the playoffs.

dont misinterpret mu post.. i love plano with all my heart and i would never "expwct" them to lose a game. i whole heartedly beleive we can win the sate championship if we dont get ahead of ourselves. like brence always says... "the only team that can beat us is ourselves"

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 09:11 PM
Did you pick South Garland over Longview?

No. I picked South over Longview. Longview struggled against both Rockwall and a very weak North Mesquite team. Even though South lost a few, Garland ISD district is pretty stout. But I doubt they will get past Lufkin.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 09:17 PM
From what site did this piece of wisdom come from my man?? The piratebackersayswhathewants.com?? Give us a source for this TWO TOUCHDOWN favorite. Not that it means SQUAT. I can hardly wait for this. Yawn. :eek: :D

taken from Rivals.com

"I may go to this game - spent all night with the Midland scouts. I told them I'm taking Plano by 14. Midland and Plano play the same sort of ball. They have a Baron Batch (A Justin Jordan if you will) who will get some tough yards, and then when they lull you with the run, they try to go up top with the pass.

Matt Diggs
TexasPrepXtra.com -- Co-Host of Metroplex Minutia
DFW Head Writer
Region I & II Editor
UNLIKE THE REST -- WE ARE THERE!"

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 09:21 PM
We will just have to see what happens, wont we?

Shoot2thrill
11-20-2005, 09:27 PM
taken from Rivals.com

"I may go to this game - spent all night with the Midland scouts. I told them I'm taking Plano by 14. Midland and Plano play the same sort of ball. They have a Baron Batch (A Justin Jordan if you will) who will get some tough yards, and then when they lull you with the run, they try to go up top with the pass.

Matt Diggs
TexasPrepXtra.com -- Co-Host of Metroplex Minutia
DFW Head Writer
Region I & II Editor
UNLIKE THE REST -- WE ARE THERE!"

And that makes your source more reliable than the other guy's who said Plano was a 3 point underdog? Why? Because it says what YOU want to believe. ;)

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 09:33 PM
And that makes your source more reliable than the other guy's who said Plano was a 3 point underdog? Why? Because it says what YOU want to believe. ;)

No. Because the site the other guy quoted is not updated regularly. It has a lot of errors like picks including SGP over Plano, Rowlett over Berkner, Carter over Garland, among others. Obviously, the info is not reliable. Check it out yourself.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 09:34 PM
We will just have to see what happens, wont we?
You can wait. I know. Plano over Midland 2 TD's. Remember, you heard it here first.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 09:38 PM
Plano D won't let your back get across the line. Stopped SGP dead in their tracks. Plano is peaking at just the right time. It will be a long night for Midland and a long drive home back to the dawg house.

You seem to think we are SGP...we aren't and we are peaking at the right time also. I think we will go ahead and show up and play. Remember we can't pass so you should put 8 in the box to stop our running game. Everyone else has tried it and failed so you might as well also. Keep telling yourself that were just 10-2, we can't be as good as a 12-0 team. Just the record alone should tell you that :rolleyes:

Man you crack me up :D

reed35
11-20-2005, 09:39 PM
No. Because the site the other guy quoted is not updated regularly. It has a lot of errors like picks including SGP over Plano, Rowlett over Berkner, Carter over Garland, among others. Obviously, the info is not reliable. Check it out yourself.

big deal.............they left all the original picks there........at least they did not edit them to make theirselves look perfect. There is alot of good percentage info on there.

There is not one prediction made that is reliable. The only reliable info is when the clock has 00.00.

Mhs06
11-20-2005, 09:40 PM
No. Because the site the other guy quoted is not updated regularly. It has a lot of errors like picks including SGP over Plano, Rowlett over Berkner, Carter over Garland, among others. Obviously, the info is not reliable. Check it out yourself.

He also nailed a lot of predictions right on the dot. "Check it out yourself."

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 09:42 PM
big deal.............they left all the original picks there........at least they did not edit them to make theirselves look perfect. There is alot of good percentage info on there.

There is not one prediction made that is reliable. The only reliable info is when the clock has 00.00.

Your absolutely right! When the clock goes 00.00, Plano wins by 2 TD's and the dawg pound will be silent- officially euthenized.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Plano won't even score 2 td's :p

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Plano better be ready for a big dose of Batch. This guy is the real deal...strong runner with blazing speed. If Plano can't stop the run they are in for a long night. Go Dawgs! Roll 3-5A. AHS beat SLC!

Every team this far in the playoffs is going to be good and have a star go to player. Midland has Batch, Plano has Jordan. Midland has a good defense, Plano has a good defense. Midland is physical smash mouth running team. Plano is a physical smash mouth running team.

Its all relative. Team who makes the least mistakes and doesn't turn the ball over will win. It's simple. I believe Plano will be that team.

GO SLC !! 3-5A WILL BE SWEPT AWAY!! :D

reed35
11-20-2005, 09:47 PM
Your absolutely right! When the clock goes 00.00, Plano wins by 2 TD's and the dawg pound will be silent- officially euthenized.

Plano will win i believe, i just do not know if by 14 points.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 09:50 PM
He also nailed a lot of predictions right on the dot. "Check it out yourself."
Yea. but he has Plano out of the race already. How can you accurately make a prediction between two teams when you have one team out of the race before it starts? Come on now. I know this sounds good to you, but you're going to have to think beyond that Midland education of yours. It's not accurate information.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 09:52 PM
Every team this far in the playoffs is going to be good and have a star go to player. Midland has Batch, Plano has Jordan. Midland has a good defense, Plano has a good defense. Midland is physical smash mouth running team. Plano is a physical smash mouth running team.

Its all relative. Team who makes the least mistakes and doesn't turn the ball over will win. It's simple.


I agree with this part 100% but I am a homer and expect 3-5A to sweep ;)

planocat05
11-20-2005, 09:55 PM
Plano won't even score 2 td's :p

why wont Plano score on yall? give me some info to back up a statement like that? honestly im curious good d line good secondary wut? be specific why is ur d so good. i asume it cant be a problem with our offense because im not sure your such an expert on the plano team

reed35
11-20-2005, 09:59 PM
Yea. but he has Plano out of the race already. How can you accurately make a prediction between two teams when you have one team out of the race before it starts? Come on now. I know this sounds good to you, but you're going to have to think beyond that Midland education of yours. It's not accurate information.

because they predict using percentages. The percentage had SGP 2 points above. Never said it made it happen or fool proof.

Dawg Fan
11-20-2005, 10:03 PM
why wont Plano score on yall? give me some info to back up a statement like that? honestly im curious good d line good secondary wut? be specific why is ur d so good. i asume it cant be a problem with our offense because im not sure your such an expert on the plano team

Our defense is very good and its been getting better as the games go on. North Crowley had a high powered offense and they scored one field goal as the game ended. Amarillo was scoring a bunch of points and we gave up 10 to them. I was responding to the to the prediction by another poster that Plano would win by 2 td's. I am positive you guys aren't an expert on MHS. Respect has to be earned.

planocat05
11-20-2005, 10:07 PM
Our defense is very good and its been getting better as the games go on. North Crowley had a high powered offense and they scored one field goal as the game ended. Amarillo was scoring a bunch of points and we gave up 10 to them. I was responding to the to the prediction by another poster that Plano would win by 2 td's. I am positive you guys aren't an expert on MHS. Respect has to be earned.

ur right i dont know anything bout midland thats why i didnt make any comments regarding them and thats why i asked you about your defense. i have no idea who the better team is sounds like we are evenly matched im not goin to make any predictions cuz i dont kno anything bout midland. obviously i want plano to win so we will see saterday at 2. may the better team win and props to both for making it this far

WildcatFan
11-20-2005, 10:28 PM
How to get to Shotwell from 20 West.

Us city folks know how to get on 20 but beyond that where do we go with out taking the wrong trun to Lubbock.

Is the stadium in town or on the outskits!

When I was in college at Tech I used to a girl from Abilene Christian and would drive down from Lubbock, but I don't know if Shotwell is close to that school!

Tejasnole
11-20-2005, 10:35 PM
Hey dawg stop the smack. Come with some intelligent info like, points scored and how many points your d gives up. Here is a nice little stat from a reliable Massey Ranking:(A computer which is unbiased)

Plano's Ranked Defense: 3rd in State
Midland's Ranked Defense: 43rd in State
Plano's Ranked Offense: 5th in State
Midland's Ranked Offense: 38th in State

Sure sounds like Midland is an overpowering team that will take Plano to the house. Wow I might as well pack my bags now.

Plano's D is giving up less than 12 points per game
Give me some stats on midland if you have any. Which I doubt because of your lack of info behind your comments.

piratebacker
11-20-2005, 10:45 PM
Our defense is very good and its been getting better as the games go on. North Crowley had a high powered offense and they scored one field goal as the game ended. Amarillo was scoring a bunch of points and we gave up 10 to them. I was responding to the to the prediction by another poster that Plano would win by 2 td's. I am positive you guys aren't an expert on MHS. Respect has to be earned.

With that powerful defense of yours, what happened against Abilene and LM?

Maroon Cathead
11-21-2005, 02:20 AM
If Plano has the same or fewer turnovers than Midland, then Plano will win.

Hopefully, Plano will focus more on its running game (fewer pass plays), reduce the turnovers, and not put itself in difficult situations.

Don't envy Midland; they have a tough mountain to climb. This matchup is analogous to if Plano had to play Southlake Carroll. Plano would have a small chance but be a heavy underdog.

Midland has a chance but is a definite underdog.

Purple Haze
11-21-2005, 08:25 AM
How to get to Shotwell from 20 West.

Us city folks know how to get on 20 but beyond that where do we go with out taking the wrong trun to Lubbock.

Is the stadium in town or on the outskits!

When I was in college at Tech I used to a girl from Abilene Christian and would drive down from Lubbock, but I don't know if Shotwell is close to that school!

Use mapquest and find your own directions. Or better yet, stay home so some more Midland fans will have seats. ;)

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 09:56 AM
When I was in college at Tech I used to a girl from Abilene Christian and would drive down from Lubbock, but I don't know if Shotwell is close to that school!

Wow classy post :rolleyes: I am sure the Plano fans are very proud of you

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 10:01 AM
With that powerful defense of yours, what happened against Abilene and LM?


And what football powerhouses have you played? Give me a break :rolleyes:

Ya'lls arrogance will cost you the game. You have an undefeated record against weak competition. Doesn't intimidate us in the least. We have beaten every team that has had some sort of cat for a mascot this year and we will do it again. Dog always beat cats :p

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 10:03 AM
Hey dawg stop the smack. Come with some intelligent info like, points scored and how many points your d gives up. Here is a nice little stat from a reliable Massey Ranking:(A computer which is unbiased)

Plano's Ranked Defense: 3rd in State
Midland's Ranked Defense: 43rd in State
Plano's Ranked Offense: 5th in State
Midland's Ranked Offense: 38th in State

Sure sounds like Midland is an overpowering team that will take Plano to the house. Wow I might as well pack my bags now.

Plano's D is giving up less than 12 points per game
Give me some stats on midland if you have any. Which I doubt because of your lack of info behind your comments.


Last I checked the computer doesn't play football :rolleyes:

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:12 AM
And what football powerhouses have you played? Give me a break :rolleyes:

Ya'lls arrogance will cost you the game. You have an undefeated record against weak competition. Doesn't intimidate us in the least. We have beaten every team that has had some sort of cat for a mascot this year and we will do it again. Dog always beat cats :p

Weak argument. We heard that every week. We will hear it again next week when we play Carroll. Your 10-2 record isn't exactly intimidating either.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:15 AM
And what football powerhouses have you played? Give me a break :rolleyes:

Ya'lls arrogance will cost you the game. You have an undefeated record against weak competition. Doesn't intimidate us in the least. We have beaten every team that has had some sort of cat for a mascot this year and we will do it again. Dog always beat cats :p

AND if you have to resort to attacking mascots, Midland obviously has no game.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 10:16 AM
Weak argument. We heard that every week. We will hear it again next week when we play Carroll. Your 10-2 record isn't exactly intimidating either.

Yada Yada Yada :rolleyes: Your guys can play Carrol in basketball after Saturday because you won't see them on the field unless you go to Waco to watch them play Abilene :D

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 10:17 AM
AND if you have to resort to attacking mascots, Midland obviously has no game.


Wow strong comeback...you always this quick on your feet :rolleyes: :D

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:26 AM
Yada Yada Yada :rolleyes: Your guys can play Carrol in basketball after Saturday because you won't see them on the field unless you go to Waco to watch them play Abilene :D

Do you have anything good to say about Midland? I heard about Batch. But, Plano has the defense to stop him- seen better than that. What else?

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-21-2005, 10:53 AM
How about Dawgfan1 and Piratebacker start their own tread and they can trash talk back and forth to each other so the other fans on here can actually have a discussion.

Both of you please bring something else to the table other than insults.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 11:10 AM
How about Dawgfan1 and Piratebacker start their own tread and they can trash talk back and forth to each other so the other fans on here can actually have a discussion.

Both of you please bring something else to the table other than insults.

I'll post what I want. Anything else?

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-21-2005, 11:35 AM
I'll post what I want. Anything else?

Since your asking.
Why don't you go to the 4A message board and talk trash about Wylie's opponent and do us a favor.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 11:47 AM
Since your asking.
Why don't you go to the 4A message board and talk trash about Wylie's opponent and do us a favor.

I'm already on the 4A message board trash talking about Killeen Ellison. AND I don't do favors for anyone. Anything else?

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 11:50 AM
I read this on a thread on another website? Just wondering if there were any comments from the Midland fans.

"Plano should be able to beat Midland and here is why. When I went up to Lubbock to visit my brother who is at Tech, we decided to go see a high school game. It was Lubbock Monterrey v. Midland. Monterrey ended up coming from behind and beating Midland in the 4th quarter. They are a spread team that mainly operates from the Shotgun. The quarterback can throw the short balls, but can't really throw far when I saw them play. On defense Monterrey was able to run all over them and that's how they beat them. This is also the same team 3 years ago that choked in the State finals against Converse Judson. They were up 5 points with 25 seconds left and were on defense. They played there regular defense and Judson threw a long pass and the secondary got beat. I was at the game waiting for another game later on at the Alamodome. I laughed and Midland after I saw that. They deserved to lose after I saw that. Other than that, for Plano to beat them just do what they always do on offense. Run the ball with the same 4 running plays: pitch,dive,option,counter."

mhsfan
11-21-2005, 12:36 PM
Hey dawg stop the smack. Come with some intelligent info like, points scored and how many points your d gives up. Here is a nice little stat from a reliable Massey Ranking:(A computer which is unbiased)

Plano's Ranked Defense: 3rd in State
Midland's Ranked Defense: 43rd in State
Plano's Ranked Offense: 5th in State
Midland's Ranked Offense: 38th in State

Sure sounds like Midland is an overpowering team that will take Plano to the house. Wow I might as well pack my bags now.

Plano's D is giving up less than 12 points per game
Give me some stats on midland if you have any. Which I doubt because of your lack of info behind your comments.


Try this link that gives the stats(which is just the FACTS)

http://coach.thsca.com/StandingsStats.asp?nav=Pressbox&menu=03&category=totals

TEAM TOTAL OFFENSE
Midland High 6th
Plano 11th

RUSHING OFFENSE
Midland High 2nd
Plano 6th

INDIVIDUAL RUSHING
Mhs - Baron Batch 3rd
Plano - (no one in top 25)

INDIVIDUAL TACKLES
Mhs - 15th
Mhs - 17th
Plano - (no one on the list)

INDIVIDUAL SACKS
Mhs - 12th
Plano - (no one on the list)

INDIVIDUAL SCORING
Mhs - Baron Batch 2nd
Plano - Justin Jordan 15th

JUST THE FACTS! Read'em for yourself.

I expect a close game. Plano will be the toughest team we've faced (beside's Abilene ;) ).

mhsfan
11-21-2005, 12:49 PM
I read this on a thread on another website? Just wondering if there were any comments from the Midland fans.

"Plano should be able to beat Midland and here is why. When I went up to Lubbock to visit my brother who is at Tech, we decided to go see a high school game. It was Lubbock Monterrey v. Midland. Monterrey ended up coming from behind and beating Midland in the 4th quarter. They are a spread team that mainly operates from the Shotgun. The quarterback can throw the short balls, but can't really throw far when I saw them play. On defense Monterrey was able to run all over them and that's how they beat them. This is also the same team 3 years ago that choked in the State finals against Converse Judson. They were up 5 points with 25 seconds left and were on defense. They played there regular defense and Judson threw a long pass and the secondary got beat. I was at the game waiting for another game later on at the Alamodome. I laughed and Midland after I saw that. They deserved to lose after I saw that. Other than that, for Plano to beat them just do what they always do on offense. Run the ball with the same 4 running plays: pitch,dive,option,counter."

As far as the Monterrey game, Midland gave that one away. The Abilene game- Midland had a blocked Field goal and an interception in the endzone that would have tied the game. Midland (as well as Plano) has improved since those games. Besides, I don't think Plano could take Abilene High either.

planocat05
11-21-2005, 01:04 PM
who cares how many rushing yards baron batch has vs justin jordan. the important number is the rushing average 7.6 vs. 8.7 look how many attempts batch has 260 (1923) then look how many J.J. has 146 (1263). thats all the info u need to kno that jordan is the better runner. Plus he shares the load with our QB who has 900 rushing yards and our fullbacks who have 400 yrds. try stopin all three threats

mhsfan
11-21-2005, 01:25 PM
who cares how many rushing yards baron batch has vs justin jordan. the important number is the rushing average 7.6 vs. 8.7 look how many attempts batch has 260 (1923) then look how many J.J. has 146 (1263). thats all the info u need to kno that jordan is the better runner. Plus he shares the load with our QB who has 900 rushing yards and our fullbacks who have 400 yrds. try stopin all three threats

Ok, let's talk averages

MHS Team offense avg = 382.5
Plano Team offense avg = 352.7

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 01:32 PM
Plano's D will shut the running attack down from Roseberry and Batch. Plano has arguably the best D in the state. Not much gets by them. Plano suprised SGP last week with their offensive prowess despite an extremely strong SGP defense. Sfikas, Jordan, Lott, Riddeaux, and the rest of the Plano offense are peaking at just the right time. Sfikas had one of the best games I've ever seen him play last week. Plano has a lot of momentum going into this game.

ktchamp97
11-21-2005, 01:55 PM
Do you have anything good to say about Midland? I heard about Batch. But, Plano has the defense to stop him- seen better than that. What else?

The only back that Plano has faced who is comparable to Baron Batch is Andre Pierce from Rowlett and Plano didn't exactly "stop" him...20 carries for 102 yards isn't bad at all, even if it was way, way below his average. Batch is the real deal and he will be every bit as good as Pierce was.

Midland has a better defense than Rowlett, but they aren't as good in the passing game. Rowlett's main problem was the 5 turnovers...it's hard to beat anyone doing that.

I expect this to be a very close game unless one of the teams has 3 or more turnovers. Both teams are strong in the running game and in stopping the run and both teams are inconsistent in the passing game.

To me, this is a coin-flip game, but I give a slight edge to Plano because they've played a tougher schedule. I know that's not much to go off of, but these teams seem to match up really well with one another and there doesn't seem to be much that separates them other than the schedule. Allen, Rowlett, Desoto, and SGP are better than any four team grouping that Midland has played and Plano won all of those games.

planocat05
11-21-2005, 02:19 PM
The only back that Plano has faced who is comparable to Baron Batch is Andre Pierce from Rowlett and Plano didn't exactly "stop" him...20 carries for 102 yards isn't bad at all, even if it was way, way below his average. Batch is the real deal and he will be every bit as good as Pierce was.

Midland has a better defense than Rowlett, but they aren't as good in the passing game. Rowlett's main problem was the 5 turnovers...it's hard to beat anyone doing that.

I expect this to be a very close game unless one of the teams has 3 or more turnovers. Both teams are strong in the running game and in stopping the run and both teams are inconsistent in the passing game.

To me, this is a coin-flip game, but I give a slight edge to Plano because they've played a tougher schedule. I know that's not much to go off of, but these teams seem to match up really well with one another and there doesn't seem to be much that separates them other than the schedule. Allen, Rowlett, Desoto, and SGP are better than any four team grouping that Midland has played and Plano won all of those games.

Kt,
how would u compare Justin Jordan to Baron Batch. Justin does not have as many yards but he has a better rushing average. Is justin not just as good. J.J. has had to share his rushing with a very good running quaterback. I honeslty dont know this is why i am asking but how does midlands D comapre to Plano East's? I kno East's is up there.

ktchamp97
11-21-2005, 02:31 PM
Kt,
how would u compare Justin Jordan to Baron Batch. Justin does not have as many yards but he has a better rushing average. Is justin not just as good. J.J. has had to share his rushing with a very good running quaterback. I honeslty dont know this is why i am asking but how does midlands D comapre to Plano East's? I kno East's is up there.

I haven't seen JJ play, but, based on the numbers and the competition he's faced, I think its safe to say that he compares very favorably to Batch. Batch hits the hole at blinding speed and he runs very tough...if he gets the corner, he's gone. Midland's QB, Roseberry, also does his share of running so Batch also splits carries. Defensively, Midland and PESH are probably about equal, with Midland maybe having a slight edge.

Nv8der
11-21-2005, 02:35 PM
I read this on a thread on another website? Just wondering if there were any comments from the Midland fans.

"Plano should be able to beat Midland and here is why. When I went up to Lubbock to visit my brother who is at Tech, we decided to go see a high school game. It was Lubbock Monterrey v. Midland. Monterrey ended up coming from behind and beating Midland in the 4th quarter. They are a spread team that mainly operates from the Shotgun. The quarterback can throw the short balls, but can't really throw far when I saw them play. On defense Monterrey was able to run all over them and that's how they beat them. This is also the same team 3 years ago that choked in the State finals against Converse Judson. They were up 5 points with 25 seconds left and were on defense. They played there regular defense and Judson threw a long pass and the secondary got beat. I was at the game waiting for another game later on at the Alamodome. I laughed and Midland after I saw that. They deserved to lose after I saw that. Other than that, for Plano to beat them just do what they always do on offense. Run the ball with the same 4 running plays: pitch,dive,option,counter."


I would have to disagree.... Midland does not mainly run the spread offense, they also switch up and run a 2 back formation. Most of our passing touchdowns this year have been thrown longer than 20 yards. The mistake made in the State game was a coaches decision more than a anything else, Midland ran one defense formation and that was it from start of the season to the end, no NICKLE package so to speak and if you go back to that season the only two loses before the state game. Midland had that year were to passing teams (Abilene and Cooper). Since then they have incorporated a nickel defense. The base defense that midland uses is setup for the run and is not designed for the pass with only 3 true DBs and one cover LB in the package. Just a clarification to that post.

bullrock
11-21-2005, 03:05 PM
Midland 42
plano 2

muffed punt attempt travels through the end zone to svae the shut-out. Batch will prevail.

Plano is better 'cause the wildcat said so. Losing is something they can relate to. See 2004. Go dawgs!

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 03:13 PM
Midland 42
plano 2

muffed punt attempt travels through the end zone to svae the shut-out. Batch will prevail.

Plano is better 'cause the wildcat said so. Losing is something they can relate to. See 2004. Go dawgs!
51 year playoff drought for Midland and a botched 2002 attempted at a state championship against Judson. Looks like Midland has a tradition of losing.

mhsfan
11-21-2005, 03:16 PM
51 year playoff drought for Midland and a botched 2002 attempted at a state championship against Judson. Looks like Midland has a tradition of losing.

Not recently. We've been in the playoff's 3 out of the last 4 years going at least 3 deep each time. Yes, we were there in 2002. I don't remember Plano being on the field???

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 03:33 PM
Not recently. We've been in the playoff's 3 out of the last 4 years going at least 3 deep each time. Yes, we were there in 2002. I don't remember Plano being on the field???

Wow. Midland has been in the playoffs 3 years. I doubt Plano can top that. Let's see:

Year1934 Class/RoundClass B (bi-district) (regional) OpponentFW Trimble TechCrowell ResultW 26-0L 34-0
1935 Class B (bi-district) (regional) FW HandleyNewcastle W 7-0L 33-0
1936 Class B (bi-district) (regional) CommerceIrving W 20-0L 14-7
1939 Class A (bi-district) (regional) CooperMineola W 31-6L 29-6
1940 Class A (bi-district) (regional) Honey GroveMt. Pleasant W 46-6L 19-6
1946 Class A (bi-district) Irving L 34-14
1947 Class A (bi-district) Irving L 27-0
1951 Class A (bi-district) Farmersville T 7-7
1961 Class 2A (bi-district) (regional) DuncanvilleJacksboro W 28-20L 20-12
1964 Class 2A (bi-district) Marlin L 13-6
1965 Class 2A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) (semifinal) (championship) WestLake WorthDeKalbIowa ParkEdna W 6-0W 44-6W 22-0W 40-8W 20-17
1966 Class 2A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) MexiaDecaturDaingerfield W 41-7W 14-6L 21-15
1967 Class 2A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) (semifinal) (championship) MexiaDecaturDaingerfieldPhillipsUniversal City W 35-7W 28-0W 14-7W 16-13W 27-8
1968 Class 3A (bi-district) (regional) AzleHenderson W 62-20L 21-7
1970 Class 3A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinals) Saginaw BoswellJacksonvilleBrownwood W 42-6W 23-16L 35-21
1971 Class 3A (bi-district) (quarterfinal) (semifinal) (championship) AzleJacksonvilleBrownwoodGregory-Portland W 40-7W 18-17W 10-8W 21-20
1972 Class 4A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) LongviewKilleenDallas Skyline W 27-0W 13-8L 8-30
1973 Class 4A (bi-district) John Tyler L 34-0
1974 Class 4A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) LongviewBryanDallas Carter W 28-21W 40-23L 19-7
1975 Class 4A (bi-district) Longview L 27-0
1977 Class 4A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) (semifinal) (championship) LufkinConroeHighland ParkOdessa PermianPt. Neches-Grove W 17-7W 28-9W 29-28W 3-0W 13-10
1978 Class 4A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) (semifinal) (championship) John TylerTempleDallas CarterOdessa PermianHouston Stratford T 13-13W 15-14W 30-0W 6-3L 29-13
1979 Class 4A (bi-district) (regional) LufkinTemple W 25-21L 19-16
1980 Class 5A (bi-district) (regional) (quarterfinal) LongviewTempleHighland Park W 23-7W 16-10L 23-21
1982 Class 5A (bi-district) (area) (regional semi) (regional final) Dallas KimballDallas South Oak CliffConroe McCulloughDallas Carter W 28-20W 14-0W 14-8L 10-0
1983 Class 5A (bi-district) (area) (regional semi) (regional final) (semifinal) Dallas PinkstonMesquiteTempleKleinMidland Lee W 35-6W 28-3W 20-14W 21-0L 35-21
1984 Class 5A (bi-district) (area) Dallas KimballHighland Park W 21-8L 17-7
1986 Class 5A (bi-district) (area) (regional semi) (regional final) (semifinal) (championship) Dallas KimballNorth MesquiteBryanLongviewHurst L.D. BellLaMarque W 33-14W 37-21W 31-0W 17-12W 28-21W 24-7
1987 Class 5A (bi-district) (area) (regional semi) (regional final) (semifinal) (championship) Dallas W.T. WhiteDallas RooseveltLangham CreekCypress-FairbanksOdessa PermianHouston Stratford W 35-14W 21-12W 21-14W 24-21W 29-21W 28-21
1988 Class 5A (bi-district) (area) DuncanvilleGarland Lakeview Centennial W 38-33L 12-23
1990 Class 5A-I (bi-district) (regional semi) (regional final) (semifinal) Dallas SpruceTyler LeeConroe McCulloughMarshall W 28-13W 14-6W 21-2L 24-19
1991 Class 5A-I (bi-district) (regional semi) Dallas KimballTyler Lee W 7-6L 14-8
1992 Class 5A-I (bi-district) (regional semi) Garland Lakeview CentennialArlington W 13-10L 17-7
1993 Class 5A-I (bi-district) (regional semi) (regional final) (semifinal) (championship) GarlandArlingtonSpring WestfieldEuless TrinityConverse Judson W 17-0W 45-10W 20-0W 12-0L 36-13
1994 Class 5A-I (bi-district) (regional semi) (regional final) (semifinal) (championship) MesquiteDuncanvilleLufkinOdessa PermianKaty W 29-19W 28-14W 38-14W 10-0W 28-7
1995 Class 5A-I (bi-district) Garland L 23-7
1996 Class 5A-I (bi-district) Allen L 28-21
1998 Class 5A-I (bi-district) (regional semi) (regional final) MesquiteTyler LeeJersey Village W 28-7W 31-14L 35-20
1999 Class 5A-I (bi-district) Mesquite L 38-7
2000 Class 5A-II (bi-district) (area) North GarlandJohn Tyler W 35-28L 21-13
2001 Class 5A-II (bi-district) (area) North MesquiteLufkin W 9-6L 24-19
2005 Class 5A-II (bi-district) (area) DeSoto W 17-14 S Grand Prairie W31-24

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 04:36 PM
Plano has had a very storied past and they are one of the winningest programs in the state. We respect that but it doesn't mean that we are intimidated. Your arrogance makes it very easy to root against them. The last few years have been our rise to the playoffs and went to the championship game our first try. I don't know how many schools have done that besides SLC.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 04:46 PM
How about Dawgfan1 and Piratebacker start their own tread and they can trash talk back and forth to each other so the other fans on here can actually have a discussion.

Both of you please bring something else to the table other than insults.

Excuse me but what have I said that is out of line? Are you the forum police? I was having fun with an over the top fan. Have you actually read any of the threads on this forum? This stuff is childs play compared to some of the stuff I have read. :rolleyes:

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 04:51 PM
Plano has had a very storied past and they are one of the winningest programs in the state. We respect that but it doesn't mean that we are intimidated. Your arrogance makes it very easy to root against them. The last few years have been our rise to the playoffs and went to the championship game our first try. I don't know how many schools have done that besides SLC.

Actually, I don't put much stock in history. I was just answering the prior post. I believe the only thing that matters is how you play on game day. In my opinion, the better team on Saturday will be Plano. In your opinion, the better team will be Midland. I'm not going to convice you otherwise. And you won't change my mind, either. The message boards are just a forum for some good old pregame entertainment. I think that it is comical that some individuals take these posts so seriously, like gospel. The posts are for entertainment purposes only. They have no bearing on the actual game. You won't hurt my feelings by calling me names or picking apart my team. And I wont think any less of you or the Midland program for it. It will all be settled on Sat. May the best team win.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 04:55 PM
Actually, I don't put much stock in history. I was just answering the prior post. I believe the only thing that matters is how you play on game day. In my opinion, the better team on Saturday will be Plano. In your opinion, the better team will be Midland. I'm not going to convice you otherwise. And you won't change my mind, either. The message boards are just a forum for some good old pregame entertainment. I think that it is comical that some individuals take these posts so seriously, like gospel. The posts are for entertainment purposes only. They have no bearing on the actual game. You won't hurt my feelings by calling me names or picking apart my team. And I wont think any less of you or the Midland program for it. It will all be settled on Sat. May the best team win.

Thank You, I was just having some fun blowing off a little steam the week of the game. I think we can both agree we love our teams and believe they will win. We always pick at each other on our littleswc forum during the season.

Tejasnole
11-21-2005, 05:00 PM
Ok enough with the yardage crap. Post up real stats to show how big midland is as far as #'s. PPG Schedule Strength, PA per Game. Those are reasonable stats to show Midland is an overrated team from west texas. Go look it up might suprise some of you "Dawgs". I get a kick out of that name. Dawgs what a name.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 05:01 PM
Thank You, I was just having some fun blowing off a little steam the week of the game. I think we can both agree we love our teams and believe they will win. We always pick at each other on our littleswc forum during the season.

Yes. Some people just don't get it. Just a little pregame fun. Check out the Garland vs. Cove posts for some really angry posters.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 05:05 PM
Ok enough with the yardage crap. Post up real stats to show how big midland is as far as #'s. PPG Schedule Strength, PA per Game. Those are reasonable stats to show Midland is an overrated team from west texas. Go look it up might suprise some of you "Dawgs". I get a kick out of that name. Dawgs what a name.

:rolleyes:

someone with the profile name tejasnole making fun of the name Dawgs
how ironic ROTFL

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 05:07 PM
Yes. Some people just don't get it. Just a little pregame fun. Check out the Garland vs. Cove posts for some really angry posters.

Maybe we should all just have a big group hug and worry about the environment together and forget all the violent football stuff ;)

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 05:09 PM
Maybe we should all just have a big group hug and worry about the environment together and forget all the violent football stuff ;)
NOOOOOOO!!!!!! And stop picking on Tejasnole. I like him. He keeps things interesting.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 05:11 PM
NOOOOOOO!!!!!! And stop picking on Tejasnole. I like him. He keeps things interesting.

I was just giving him a hard time. Seriously isn't it great we get to talk smack about our teams playing each other in the third round of the playoffs. Much more fun than talking basketball :D

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 05:18 PM
Hey #27, Smack talk aside. When is the send off for the players on Sat? I want to help cheer the cats on before they leave.


we are leaving around 2:00 on FRIDAY

planocat05
11-21-2005, 05:27 PM
Plano has had a very storied past and they are one of the winningest programs in the state. We respect that but it doesn't mean that we are intimidated. Your arrogance makes it very easy to root against them. The last few years have been our rise to the playoffs and went to the championship game our first try. I don't know how many schools have done that besides SLC.

dont let the arrogance of a few fans on this forum misrepresent the majority of the Plano fans and especially the team. i garantee the teams arent talkin smack.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 05:32 PM
dont let the arrogance of a few fans on this forum misrepresent the majority of the Plano fans and especially the team. i garantee the team isnt talkin smack.

I think both teams would be foolish to talk smack before such a big game. I have to tell you that we have always respected Plano and watched them many times. They are the type of program we strive to be. I knew it would be tough for them when they started adding schools in Plano some years back but they have worked their way back to being a powerhouse team. I hope you didn't think I was being disrespectful because that is not my intention.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 05:35 PM
I think both teams would be foolish to talk smack before such a big game. I have to tell you that we have always respected Plano and watched them many times. They are the type of program we strive to be. I knew it would be tough for them when they started adding schools in Plano some years back but they have worked their way back to being a powerhouse team. I hope you didn't think I was being disrespectful because that is not my intention.

No. You have pride in Midland and a passion for their program. That is admirable. I honestly don't see any harm in a little smack talk, but just my opinion. All in good fun. Some people think it is arrogant. Personally, I don't.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 05:36 PM
No. You have pride in Midland and a passion for their program. That is admirable. I honestly don't see any harm in a little smack talk, but just my opinion. All in good fun. Some people think it is arrogant. Personally, I don't.

true dat ;)

Tejasnole
11-21-2005, 05:39 PM
Yes Yes just good fun. I like some smack. Makes the game that much more inter RESTING! Both programs are good, but you know with the nickname Dawgs, I just have to say Plano by 35 because of lack of IQ on the ******* who put that name on their jersey.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 05:47 PM
I agree with the post that said because of the bad coaching call in the 2002 state championship loss to Judson after a 50 year playoff drought, Midland should be banished from the playoffs for 50 more years. :D

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 05:48 PM
Yes Yes just good fun. I like some smack. Makes the game that much more inter RESTING! Both programs are good, but you know with the nickname Dawgs, I just have to say Plano by 35 because of lack of IQ on the ******* who put that name on their jersey.

I guess you are saying that about all the teams that use name that such as Copperas Cove and the University of Georgia. A mind is a terrible thing to waste :rolleyes: Man you need to actually have an IQ to talk about someone elses LOL

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Plano is a 3 point underdog.
I would'nt say that. We have an extremely incredible kicker when he's on....AND HE HAS BEEN ON BABY! Look to be fighting your way from your own 5 yard line alot.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 05:58 PM
I would'nt say that. We have an extremely incredible kicker when he's on....AND HE HAS BEEN ON BABY! Look to be fighting your way from your own 5 yard line alot.
Sheffield is awesome. The best HS kicker I have ever seen.

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 06:07 PM
And what football powerhouses have you played? Give me a break :rolleyes:

Ya'lls arrogance will cost you the game. You have an undefeated record against weak competition. Doesn't intimidate us in the least. We have beaten every team that has had some sort of cat for a mascot this year and we will do it again. Dog always beat cats :p

There is no arrogance on this football team. Every starter on the team got the butts handed to them by everyone they played 2 years ago and half of last year. They know what it is like to be on the loosing end. They have been respectful on and off the field. The stuff said on this site in no way represents this football team. They will show the same respect to Midland. There is something that this team has alot of and that is HEART. Look up Rowlett's rb. Check out his yearly stats and then look what happened in there very 1st game.

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 06:11 PM
Try this link that gives the stats(which is just the FACTS)

http://coach.thsca.com/StandingsStats.asp?nav=Pressbox&menu=03&category=totals

TEAM TOTAL OFFENSE
Midland High 6th
Plano 11th

RUSHING OFFENSE
Midland High 2nd
Plano 6th

INDIVIDUAL RUSHING
Mhs - Baron Batch 3rd
Plano - (no one in top 25)

INDIVIDUAL TACKLES
Mhs - 15th
Mhs - 17th
Plano - (no one on the list)

INDIVIDUAL SACKS
Mhs - 12th
Plano - (no one on the list)

INDIVIDUAL SCORING
Mhs - Baron Batch 2nd
Plano - Justin Jordan 15th

JUST THE FACTS! Read'em for yourself.

I expect a close game. Plano will be the toughest team we've faced (beside's Abilene ;) ).

No individual stars on this team. They are of One Heart, One Mind, and One Goal. Tons of Talent

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 06:17 PM
No individual stars on this team. They are of One Heart, One Mind, and One Goal. Tons of Talent

I like Sfikas, too. I think people underestimate him because of his size. But, he's a tough, tremendous athlete and doesn't let the pressure get to him. Definately a big reason Plano has made it this far.

Planowildcats160
11-21-2005, 06:19 PM
This is a game in which plano is very capable of winning. They match up well against midland, and midland does not have the team speed of SGP. Everyone said plano couldn't handle SGP's speed, yet they still put up 200 rushing yards and averaged a little over 4 yards per carry. I expect plano to be able to run at will on midland. Plano's defense will contain midland's offense like they have to everyone else all year. batch is good, but he's not the best plano has seen. Rowlette's andre pierce is a better runner, and plano's defense held him to minimun games. midland's qb is good, but FM's nick stephens is better. Plano has beat better running backs and better qb's, and they will beat midland's. plano is well equiped to win this game, and they should. No disrespect to midland, but plano is clearly capable of winning by 2 or 3 touchdowns. it could easly be the easiest game they've faced in the playoffs matchup wise. on the other hand, if plano fails to execute, midland is more than capable of upseting them. however, i cannot see plano losing this game. they've beaten far better teams with far better talent (once again, no disrespect to midland-i respect your team very much-you are in many ways very similar to plano). and don't expect as many plano turnovers, the ones last week were the result of playing an extraordinary defense

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 06:23 PM
I like Sfikas, too. I think people underestimate him because of his size. But, he's a tough, tremendous athlete and doesn't let the pressure get to him. Definately a big reason Plano has made it this far.

Did you see what the lineman for SGP said in the paper about him? It was really cool.

Planowildcats160
11-21-2005, 06:23 PM
No individual stars on this team. They are of One Heart, One Mind, and One Goal. Tons of Talent

the exact same thing can be said of plano. individual stats are meaningless in a game like this-plano does not rely on any one player. tackles are made by the whole defense. out qb runs the ball more as much as jordan-thats why he has the numbers. how many yards per carry does batch average? justin jordan averages 8 yards per carry. and thats against defenses better than any midlands faced. we've racked up rushing yards on plano east, desoto, and SGP-all very, very good defenses.

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 06:28 PM
the exact same thing can be said of plano. individual stats are meaningless in a game like this-plano does not rely on any one player. tackles are made by the whole defense. out qb runs the ball more as much as jordan-thats why he has the numbers. how many yards per carry does batch average? justin jordan averages 8 yards per carry. and thats against defenses better than any midlands faced. we've racked up rushing yards on plano east, desoto, and SGP-all very, very good defenses.

I was speaking of plano. That saying came from the cover of the program. I'm not really that good.

Planowildcats160
11-21-2005, 06:31 PM
my bad...should have read the post better.
go plano!

planocat05
11-21-2005, 06:32 PM
I was speaking of plano. That saying came from the cover of the program. I'm not really that good.

im out in lubbock wut the paper say bout sfikas.

btw J.J. avg's 8.7 ypc and Batch avg's 7.6

pshsfan
11-21-2005, 06:34 PM
Just ask Willams of SGP in the 4 quarter who knocked him out of game. Perfect match up against a running team like Midland which as 4 to 1 rush to pass yardage ratio.


im almost certain that was maxim dinka.

pshsfan
11-21-2005, 06:37 PM
You seem to discout MHS's defense which has given up a total of 12 points in the playoffs. We are fast and hit hard also....ask North Crowley. The reason we didn't pass more in the Amarillo game was because of the 25 to 30 mph winds. Everyone we play lines up to stop our D1 back with 8 and 9 in the box. No ones done it yet. You may slow him down a little but he will break a long run and when he gets in the secondary ...say good bye. I expect a good game but in no way do I think Plano is a better team than us right now. I think they are pretty even but thats why we play the game. Good luck to thos traveling and to all our boys playing for both teams

i suppose youve never heard of andre pierce? or charlie o?

you didn't when we played them thats for sure.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 06:38 PM
I was speaking of plano. That saying came from the cover of the program. I'm not really that good.

Back in the 2003 Plano 0-10 season, I remember the programs saying "We Believe" on the cover. AND every week, the players came out and gave it their all trying for just one win. I think the players in 2005 who were on that team remember each and every loss that season and play every game today for one more win. The players on this 2005 team play with the most HEART and DETERMINATION I have ever seen. If they lost tomorrow, no one could say that they were not all champions.

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 06:45 PM
Back in the 2003 Plano 0-10 season, I remember the programs saying "We Believe" on the cover. AND every week, the players came out and gave it their all trying for just one win. I think the players in 2005 who were on that team remember each and every loss that season and play every game today for one more win. The players on this 2005 team play with the most HEART and DETERMINATION I have every seen. If they lost tomorrow, no one could say that they were not all champions.

I agree, and when wh FINALLY trailed in the game against Flower Mound you saw more heart than I think I have ever seen on the Grid Iron. I wondered how we would do in that situation and to see the way they played against SGP was truly a thrill. My nephew plays on the team and it has been a blast of a season. Especially watching them live up to all of the hype that was there before the season started.

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:02 PM
i also think that plano has an advantage this week bc of the different ways both teams are traveling. plano is leaving for abiline on friday at 2:00 and will go to the stadium and check it out and get a feel for it and sleep in a hotel. midland is gonna wake their players up at 7 in the morning to bus out there and will spend almost all pre-game on a bus ride over there while plano is relaxing and probably watching more film

reed35
11-21-2005, 07:05 PM
I would'nt say that. We have an extremely incredible kicker when he's on....AND HE HAS BEEN ON BABY! Look to be fighting your way from your own 5 yard line alot.

I'm glad you think i am from Midland!!!!!!!!! and i did not say that, it is one websites prediction.

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 07:06 PM
im out in lubbock wut the paper say bout sfikas.

btw J.J. avg's 8.7 ypc and Batch avg's 7.6

He said, "don't let his size fool you he has a lot of heart. He is a true athelete."

This was said by a SGP definsive lineman. I don't know which one. It was either the 8' 500 lb. one or the 9' 700 lb. one. :)

reed35
11-21-2005, 07:07 PM
i also think that plano has an advantage this week bc of the different ways both teams are traveling. plano is leaving for abiline on friday at 2:00 and will go to the stadium and check it out and get a feel for it and sleep in a hotel. midland is gonna wake their players up at 7 in the morning to bus out there and will spend almost all pre-game on a bus ride over there while plano is relaxing and probably watching more film
Midland plays on this field every year.

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:12 PM
i realize this, and also that none of this years plano players have played at shotwell. just pointing out the fact that they have to make a 3 hour bus trip on game day, and plano will already be there

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 07:13 PM
Midland plays on this field every year.

Put us on any field. WE WILL PLAY!

reed35
11-21-2005, 07:16 PM
i realize this, and also that none of this years plano players have played at shotwell. just pointing out the fact that they have to make a 3 hour bus trip on game day, and plano will already be there
true....They said it was 2 hours for MHS...I do not know, but i think they travel shorter than Plano does to Shotwell.
I got my tickets today and am ready!!!!!!!!

Red Raiders
11-21-2005, 07:16 PM
Plano should win this but Midland had a harder district so I am not completly sure.

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:23 PM
Plano should win this but Midland had a harder district so I am not completly sure.

i wouldnt say midland has a harder district.. more like a more historic district with more tradition w/ 1 amazing team this year (abiline)
however both districts are very competitive

Red Raiders
11-21-2005, 07:24 PM
i wouldnt say midland has a harder district.. more like a more historic district with more tradition w/ 1 amazing team this year (abiline)
however both districts are very competitive

True, but I think Midland has harder district than Plano did, don't say that it is your team. :D

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:33 PM
True, but I think Midland has harder district than Plano did, don't say that it is your team. :D

hahaha yes... plano is my team and i say it proudly :)
like i said, both districts are very competitive and are pretty evenly matched, and all three 8 5a teams made it to the 2nd round to play some very tough football teams (slc, euless, and sgp) and 3 5a had a 4-6 midland lee team make the playoffs.
this is no disrespect at all to any of the 3 5a teams and most of those teams(permian, odessa, midland lee, abiline) share the same type of rich tradition program that plano has
hell... they even made a movie about them :)

chickenheart
11-21-2005, 07:39 PM
Gotta remember that quite a few of the folks in the crowd last night were actually Plano East fans staying for the second game. Also saw several folks in the stands from SLC. Sizing up the team for a possible game in two weeks???

If the game was a lot closer to Dallas, we might have gone, but 200 miles to Abilene for Plano is more than I can do. The SLC folks won't be there either, because they'll be at TS watching their boys. I'm sure there will also be quite a few Plano fans that won't go that distance for the game. Shotwell Stadium should be plenty big for the game. I sure wish the game would be televised, because I'd love to see it.

Good luck Wildcats!
Obviously you have'nt been to too many Plano Wildcat games this year. I plan to see a long line of cars on I-20. We will at least match the number of fans they bring. There are still a lot of people living here that are true Wildcat die hards.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 07:42 PM
This is a game in which plano is very capable of winning. They match up well against midland, and midland does not have the team speed of SGP. Everyone said plano couldn't handle SGP's speed, yet they still put up 200 rushing yards and averaged a little over 4 yards per carry. I expect plano to be able to run at will on midland. Plano's defense will contain midland's offense like they have to everyone else all year. batch is good, but he's not the best plano has seen. Rowlette's andre pierce is a better runner, and plano's defense held him to minimun games. midland's qb is good, but FM's nick stephens is better. Plano has beat better running backs and better qb's, and they will beat midland's. plano is well equiped to win this game, and they should. No disrespect to midland, but plano is clearly capable of winning by 2 or 3 touchdowns. it could easly be the easiest game they've faced in the playoffs matchup wise. on the other hand, if plano fails to execute, midland is more than capable of upseting them. however, i cannot see plano losing this game. they've beaten far better teams with far better talent (once again, no disrespect to midland-i respect your team very much-you are in many ways very similar to plano). and don't expect as many plano turnovers, the ones last week were the result of playing an extraordinary defense

Ok lets start with this:"They match up well against midland, and midland does not have the team speed of SGP"
You know nothing of our speed you are just speculating

2."Plano's defense will contain midland's offense like they have to everyone else all year. batch is good, but he's not the best plano has seen" stupid remark...you haven't seen Batch this year but you will get to know what the backside of his jersey looks like


3. "Plano has beat better running backs and better qb's, and they will beat midland's" You wish

4. another stupid statement "No disrespect to midland, but " or maybe I should say...No disrespect to you,but you don't have a clue

5." they've beaten far better teams with far better talent" Name one because I have seen who you have played and I don't agree one bit


you keep saying no disrespect then use the word BUT :rolleyes: sorry when you use that word it nullifies the word no before disrespect

Look I don't have a problem with you but I am gonna fire back when I read this kind of stuff

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:48 PM
5." they've beaten far better teams with far better talent" Name one because I have seen who you have played and I don't agree one bit


he said we have beaten teams with better talent (south grand prarie for one)
yes you have played a tougher team (abiline) but did not beat them

no disrespect or "but" haha

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 07:48 PM
i suppose youve never heard of andre pierce? or charlie o?

you didn't when we played them thats for sure.

I hate to burst your bubble but I could care less about those two names you mentioned. Stop Batch and then you can talk.

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:49 PM
5." they've beaten far better teams with far better talent" Name one because I have seen who you have played and I don't agree one bit


he said we have beaten teams with better talent (south grand prarie for one)
yes you have played a tougher team (abiline) but did not beat them

no disrespect and no "but" haha

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 07:50 PM
he said we have beaten teams with better talent (south grand prarie for one)
yes you have played a tougher team (abiline) but did not beat them

no disrespect or "but" haha

sorry but SGP doesn't have more talent :rolleyes: Maybe more than Plano but not us.

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 07:52 PM
sorry but SGP doesn't have more talent :rolleyes: Maybe more than Plano but not us.

ouch :(

you will find that plano football players dont talk much smack off the feild, we do it with our helmets ;)
good luck on saturday... you will need it

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 07:57 PM
ouch :(

you will find that plano football players dont talk much smack off the feild, we do it with our helmets ;)
good luck on saturday... you will need it

Do you think I am a player? Son I was out of high school before you were born. Our boys are no different than you and will bring it. We have knocked our share of heads and they won't shy away from ya'lls.

The majority of the smack thrown out on here is from the Plano fans, maybe you should read the whole thread. I never disrespected the Wildcats but have seen plenty directed towards MHS. I won't run away from it.

You better bring a horseshoe yourself. ;)

reed35
11-21-2005, 07:58 PM
27, is Plano home or visitor?

reed35
11-21-2005, 08:01 PM
Do you think I am a player? Son I was out of high school before you were born. Our boys are no different than you and will bring it. We have knocked our share of heads and they won't shy away from ya'lls.

The majority of the smack thrown out on here is from the Plano fans, maybe you should read the whole thread. I never disrespected the Wildcats but have seen plenty directed towards MHS. I won't run away from it.

You better bring a horseshoe yourself. ;)
Don't worry about it#1. I was around John Clark and played for Kimbrough before they were born and they think i am from MHS....go figure. I love the playffs for the great games like this one!!!!!

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 08:07 PM
Do you think I am a player? Son I was out of high school before you were born. Our boys are no different than you and will bring it. We have knocked our share of heads and they won't shy away from ya'lls.

The majority of the smack thrown out on here is from the Plano fans, maybe you should read the whole thread. I never disrespected the Wildcats but have seen plenty directed towards MHS. I won't run away from it.

You better bring a horseshoe yourself. ;)

hahaha nooo i definately could tell you werent a player by the fact ur name has 'fan' in it. i wasnt being disrespectful and some of these plano fans do talk alot of trash, their just making up for the last 3 years.

and ill be sure to bring that horseshoe for you ;) haha

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 08:08 PM
27, is Plano home or visitor?

not sure yet, brence hasnt said anything
but im sure we'll be away bc midland is much closer to shotwell than us

pshs1
11-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Hey Cole do you know if they are charting buses out for the fans?

Tejasnole
11-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Dawg, man you need some support. Where are your facts? Still havn't seen a meaningful fact yet except your biased opinion.

1) Backs Plano has beaten: Charles O(JR) and Andre Pierce, Thermilius
Chalk that one for plano because they will contain Batch

2) Midland is definately not a top team in defensive or offensive catagories according to reliable unbiased computer polls which account for sheer #'s.
Chalk that one for plano also

3) Your D is good ,we have faced better (SGP, East, Desoto) Your should be a warm up for SLC.

4) You don't talk crap. Please state your facts then I will listen to your bs.

5) IS Wildcat 27, Cole MEAGER!!!!!!!

reed35
11-21-2005, 08:23 PM
we are home team

WILDCAT27
11-21-2005, 08:23 PM
5) IS Wildcat 27, Cole MEAGER!!!!!!!
hahaah yea buddy :) whos this?
and nope... wer not chartering fans :( haha

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 08:46 PM
Plano is the home team?

reed35
11-21-2005, 08:48 PM
Plano is home team according to Mrs. Rollins at the ticket office

Tejasnole
11-21-2005, 08:51 PM
Would you guys suggest driving from Houston to Abiliene to see the game. I am very sad I am going to miss it and need support.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 08:54 PM
Would you guys suggest driving from Houston to Abiliene to see the game. I am very sad I am going to miss it and need support.

Yes. Make the drive. You'll end up regretting it later if you don't.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 08:56 PM
Midland is now 10-2 - Their 2 losses came against Abilene 31-20 and Lub. Monterey 28-24 (which just gave Abilene a big scare).............west texas teams traditionally aren't that strong, but seeing as Midland lost close to Abilene, I think this could be another nail biter.................but I don't think Plano can have 3+ turnovers AGAIN and win

I'm glad Midland chose to make us go west.............Plano has a mystique of playing out there Midland has no clue about (Permian can tell them about it!) I look forward to making the trip!!!!! Let's put paws all along I-20 and pack Shotwell endzone to endzone!!!!


You dont have a clue do you? You can say our district is down this year, which for us still puts us in the top 10 of Texas districts, but to bring in tradition?? You must know about as much about Texas football as the average Alaskian citizen. There is NO OTHER district with more tradition from top to bottom of winning. It wasnt but a few years ago, our Lee friends from Midland (who sometimes didnt get out of district with a spotless record) whipped your metroplex teams up down and sideways. Wanna go back a few years further? Well then lets bring up Mojo, which before the season started had the highest overall winning percentage of any team in the state, yes higher then Southlake, Ennis, Highland Park, and even Plano. And if you still think we have no tradition then look who your own Dallas Morning News labeled the Team of the Century.

Midland is a very good team and I think you guys how dont realise that are looking to end up a lot like your neighbors from North Crowly.

reed35
11-21-2005, 09:04 PM
Well then lets bring up Mojo, which before the season started had the highest overall winning percentage of any team in the state, yes higher then Southlake, Ennis, Highland Park, and even Plano. And if you still think we have no tradition then look who your own Dallas Morning News labeled the Team of the Century.

Midland is a very good team and I think you guys how dont realise that are looking to end up a lot like your neighbors from North Crowly.


Don't bring up Permian as they have never beat Plano......
and sorry, NC is not good / no comparison
Midland is good and Plano is good.......just one more great game that makes Texas football the best

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 09:07 PM
North Crowley is far from being the calibur of Plano. Not sure why the Midland folks think that their district is so strong? Just because it is in West Texas with the tradition of Lee and MOJO. Midland isn't either of these two programs. Abilene barely pulled off wins against two weak teams, Brownwood (4-7) and Lubbock Monterey (6-6). Midland lost to both Abilene and Lubbock Monterey. Midland may be good for West Texas and spank Odessa Permian, but that doesn't mean very much.

Tejasnole
11-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Mojo this Mojo that ain't going to help you win the game. Your Midland not them. They have had down years. All of the fabled teams. Doesn't prepare you for the kicking that is about to take place in a few days. I believe that history does not dictate the future. It what your going to do on saturday that dictates who wins. My good ol pals from Plano are going to show the midland fans what fun football looks like. It's going to be a partaay in Abiliene come the tick tock of the 4th quarter. :) ;) :o :rolleyes: :cool:

warbird00
11-21-2005, 09:16 PM
My response was for him talking about the "typically weak teams from west texas" im glad you guys left that out of your replys... :rolleyes:

I agree both teams are good, and actually I think Plano is overall a little better then Midland. The advantage for MHS is the fact that they are used to traveling long distances on a regular basis, and playing in a place they are very accustomed to .

Shoot2thrill
11-21-2005, 09:22 PM
Mojo this Mojo that ain't going to help you win the game. Your Midland not them. They have had down years. All of the fabled teams. Doesn't prepare you for the kicking that is about to take place in a few days. I believe that history does not dictate the future. It what your going to do on saturday that dictates who wins. My good ol pals from Plano are going to show the midland fans what fun football looks like. It's going to be a partaay in Abiliene come the tick tock of the 4th quarter.


LMAO. Wow you are really smart. You should be a coach or the lead fry man at Burger King with analysis like that. Yawn. ;)

Planowildcats160
11-21-2005, 09:28 PM
Ok lets start with this:"They match up well against midland, and midland does not have the team speed of SGP"
You know nothing of our speed you are just speculating

2."Plano's defense will contain midland's offense like they have to everyone else all year. batch is good, but he's not the best plano has seen" stupid remark...you haven't seen Batch this year but you will get to know what the backside of his jersey looks like


3. "Plano has beat better running backs and better qb's, and they will beat midland's" You wish

4. another stupid statement "No disrespect to midland, but " or maybe I should say...No disrespect to you,but you don't have a clue

5." they've beaten far better teams with far better talent" Name one because I have seen who you have played and I don't agree one bit


you keep saying no disrespect then use the word BUT :rolleyes: sorry when you use that word it nullifies the word no before disrespect

Look I don't have a problem with you but I am gonna fire back when I read this kind of stuff


well hrm...exactly how much of plano have you seen buddy? been watching any film?? well i have. and i have seen midland in action. what college is your qb commited to? just wondering, because nick stephens of FM is commited to ole miss. and he's one heck of a player. and yes, batch is good-but he's not the best. why don't you wake up and look at reality instead of letting your love for midland blind you. i don't fault you supporting your team. but look at the stats. pierce is better. and besides- justin jordan averages more yards per carry. and if you think your team is as fast as SGP...we'll then you're just delusional.

Eagle Hombre
11-21-2005, 09:30 PM
i also think that plano has an advantage this week bc of the different ways both teams are traveling. plano is leaving for abiline on friday at 2:00 and will go to the stadium and check it out and get a feel for it and sleep in a hotel. midland is gonna wake their players up at 7 in the morning to bus out there and will spend almost all pre-game on a bus ride over there while plano is relaxing and probably watching more film


The teams in 3-5A have been doing the same routine for the past 50+ years. Some years Midland does it twice in the same season on a Friday during the regular season. Traveling 2.5 hours east on I-20 is a walk in the park for MHS. Its a non-issue. What will happen though is when they arrive in Abilene's Shotwell Stadium. They will be in the friendly confines of a fellow Little Southwest Conference crowd and stadium. -- Welcome to West Texas -- :D :D :D

warbird00
11-21-2005, 09:34 PM
Mojo this Mojo that ain't going to help you win the game. Your Midland not them. They have had down years. All of the fabled teams. Doesn't prepare you for the kicking that is about to take place in a few days. I believe that history does not dictate the future. It what your going to do on saturday that dictates who wins. My good ol pals from Plano are going to show the midland fans what fun football looks like. It's going to be a partaay in Abiliene come the tick tock of the 4th quarter. :) ;) :o :rolleyes: :cool:


Wow you guys are twice as arrogent as SLC fans (no disrespect to the great fans from Southlake) with less then a fourth of the reason to be. Plano is a good team, and I think fans like you guys dont do them justice.

Planowildcats160
11-21-2005, 09:37 PM
#1DawgFan-i'd like to hear what you'd have to say-if you could say something intelligent. you have yet to present any stats, key matchups, or advantages your team has going into this game. so do us all a favor and say something intelligent , instead of 'proving' me wrong with lovely litte things likt this "You know nothing of our speed you are just speculating" and "you haven't seen Batch this year but you will get to know what the backside of his jersey looks like" ohh thats a good one. "You wish''....getting even better "No disrespect to you,but you don't have a clue" (and btw, i really DONT disrespect midland-they have a stout, motivated team-alot like plano) so do us all a favor and add to this forum with some intelligence- i'd really like to see why midland is better than plano

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 09:39 PM
My response was for him talking about the "typically weak teams from west texas" im glad you guys left that out of your replys... :rolleyes:

I agree both teams are good, and actually I think Plano is overall a little better then Midland. The advantage for MHS is the fact that they are used to traveling long distances on a regular basis, and playing in a place they are very accustomed to .


West Texas is dead. No longer the oil boom years of the 80's/90's. Judging from the looks of the towns, West Texas has closed up shop and moved elsewhere. The powerhouse teams of Odessa and Midland are gone, and the West Texas teams are weak. The dawgs will get euthenized by Plano and Abilene murdered by SLC. AND after the long drive to Waco for a Friday night game at 7:30P and getting slaughtered by SLC, who from Abilene is going to want to come out and watch Midland play? Plano fans will be packing the house baby!!

warbird00
11-21-2005, 09:40 PM
well hrm...exactly how much of plano have you seen buddy? been watching any film?? well i have. and i have seen midland in action. what college is your qb commited to? just wondering, because nick stephens of FM is commited to ole miss. and he's one heck of a player. and yes, batch is good-but he's not the best. why don't you wake up and look at reality instead of letting your love for midland blind you. i don't fault you supporting your team. but look at the stats. pierce is better. and besides- justin jordan averages more yards per carry. and if you think your team is as fast as SGP...we'll then you're just delusional.


Dont know about as a team...SGP is quick...but Batch will be the fastest and most elusive RB you guys have seen all year. I never seen one that does things like him...and i watched Cedric Benson play more then four times, and also Luna last year. Im not saying he is better then them overall; but fast and elusive are what he does best. You will think the play is over and then you'll see him jet past your line--and your entire defense in seconds.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 09:46 PM
West Texas is dead. No longer the oil boom years of the 80's/90's. Judging from the looks of the towns, West Texas has closed up shop and moved elsewhere. The powerhouse teams of Odessa and Midland are gone, and the West Texas teams are weak. The dawgs will get euthenized by Plano and Abilene murdered by SLC. AND after the long drive to Waco for a Friday night game at 7:30P and getting slaughtered by SLC, who from Abilene is going to want to come out and watch Midland play? Plano fans will be packing the house baby!!

You've got to be kidding me. What metroplex team came close to what we did vs. SLC last year? Abilene may not win vs. SLC, but you can bet the farm no one will be murdering Abilene.

And dont worry about us filling up our stadium... we have less then half the students you do yet Shotwell holds more. If you're expecting to outnumber the Midland fans, you're really going to be in for quite a shock...

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 09:46 PM
Dont know about as a team...SGP is quick...but Batch will be the fastest and most elusive RB you guys have seen all year. I never seen one that does things like him...and i watched Cedric Benson play more then four times, and also Luna last year. Im not saying he is better then them overall; but fast and elusive are what he does best. You will think the play is over and then you'll see him jet past your line--and your entire defense in seconds.

Heard it before, been there before, and done that before. Same comments heard last week from SGP fans, but they had actually beaten a good team, Euless Trinity, to make the point. Still didn't happen. Plano D stopped SGP dead in their tracks.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 09:50 PM
Dont worry about us filling up our stadium... we have less then half the students you do yet Shotwell holds more. If you're expecting to outnumber the Midland fans, you're really going to be in for quite a shock...

Doesn't matter how many fans you have anyway. The Midland fans won't be making a sound as Plano whips up on their daugz.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 09:54 PM
Heard it before, been there before, and done that before. Same comments heard last week from SGP fans, but they had actually beaten a good team, Euless Trinity, to make the point. Still didn't happen. Plano D stopped SGP dead in their tracks.


You're kidding right?? 31-24 IS STOPPING A TEAM DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS! i just realised Im having a debate with freaking idiots not knowledgable football fans. I give props to Plano as a good team, and all you can do is put down another good playoff team.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 09:59 PM
You're kidding right?? 31-24 IS STOPPING A TEAM DEAD IN THEIR TRACKS! i just realised Im having a debate with freaking idiots not knowledgable football fans. I give props to Plano as a good team, and all you can do is put down another good playoff team.

Midland maybe good in your book. But Midland will not better than their opponent come this Saturday.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
Excuse me but what have I said that is out of line? Are you the forum police? I was having fun with an over the top fan. Have you actually read any of the threads on this forum? This stuff is childs play compared to some of the stuff I have read. :rolleyes:

Yes I have. Yes its ok to have fun but at least back up your comments with some intelligient comments and analysis. You and pirate boy are hoggin the thread and its a little childish how you banter endlessly back in forth.

Plano Wildcat Fan
11-21-2005, 10:01 PM
im almost certain that was maxim dinka.


I thought it was joiner. It was on the far side of the field and I couldn't see the number. Either way they both hit hard and fast.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:02 PM
Yes I have. Yes its ok to have fun but at least back up your comments with some intelligient comments and analysis. You and pirate boy are hoggin the thread and its a little childish how you banter endlessly back in forth.

I've never been called a thread hog before. Pirate boy kind of likes it!!!

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:05 PM
I thought it was joiner. It was on the far side of the field and I couldn't see the number. Either way they both hit hard and fast.

It was Dinka.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 10:09 PM
Midland maybe good in your book. But Midland will not better than their opponent come this Saturday.

I seriously would like you to explain how 31-24 is stopping a team dead in their tracks... And responding to your statement (i dont know why i am even bothering) if Midland plays you close--say within 10, since you say they arent good, then what would that make Plano? A little better then a not so good team? Please forgive me if I dont hold my breath waiting for you to start that thread.

Dawg Fan
11-21-2005, 10:14 PM
Here is a little info from another forum about Plano

Football Freak wrote:
So who is the stud for Plano? What do they do on offense? Run alot spread team? Just curious Smile


"I spoke with a friend of mine at work today regarding Plano. He went to the Plano-SGP game. He said SGP gave that game away with costly mistakes. The Wildcats ran the same pass play three times which killed the Warriors. A deep pass where the SGP DB had position on the ball and simply let it slip through his hands - two went for scores and one led to another score. Plano has very little team speed and the QB was just average at best. The QB turned the ball over three times in this game.

If Midland plays their best they should have no problem winning this game. Just don't let their WR get open in the secondary and put lots of pressure on the QB - he isn't that fast."

Sounds to me like you guys are pretty full of yourselves and all the sabre rattling your doing is just an attempt to make you feel superior. Plano hasn't beat anyone that I would consider impressive. You guys are a legend in your own mind. I like our chances.

Planowildcats160
11-21-2005, 10:17 PM
plano's defense did stop SGP dead in its tracks. scores don't always tell you much about the game. 7 of those points were off of a kickoff returned for a touchdown in one of the most athletic plays i've ever seen. plano held SGP to 179 total yards-and that is shutting a team down. SGP really only scored one offensive touchdown on plano in which they drove the ball for a period of time- and it still required two amazing catches by SGP as they got the hell knocked out of them by plano's secondary. Plano forced SGP to go for it on 2 4th downs-they managed to convert, but required 4 tries to get in the endzone from 1st and goal from the 1. 10 of SGP's 17 offensive points came off of short fields from turnovers

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:19 PM
I seriously would like you to explain how 31-24 is stopping a team dead in their tracks... And responding to your statement (i dont know why i am even bothering) if Midland plays you close--say within 10, since you say they arent good, then what would that make Plano? A little better then a not so good team? Please forgive me if I dont hold my breath waiting for you to start that thread.

SGP is dead, gone, history. If Midland is behind by less than 10 at the end of the game, that makes Plano a 13-0 Regional Semifinalist and Midland a 10-3 loser.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 10:23 PM
plano's defense did stop SGP dead in its tracks. scores don't always tell you much about the game. 7 of those points were off of a kickoff returned for a touchdown in one of the most athletic plays i've ever seen. plano held SGP to 179 total yards-and that is shutting a team down. SGP really only scored one offensive touchdown on plano in which they drove the ball for a period of time- and it still required two amazing catches by SGP as they got the hell knocked out of them by plano's secondary. Plano forced SGP to go for it on 2 4th downs-they managed to convert, but required 4 tries to get in the endzone from 1st and goal from the 1. 10 of SGP's 17 offensive points came off of short fields from turnovers


You're right 160, scores dont always tell the entire story, but they tell part of it. Saying you stopped a team dead in their tracks is a big statment, and in all reality an overstatement. If you let them hang around because of your own mistakes, then you didnt exactly stop them in their tracks, did you? I hate to be so satirical about it but you have fans saying all kinds of things, making bold statements that have little reality to them.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:23 PM
Here is a little info from another forum about Plano

Football Freak wrote:
So who is the stud for Plano? What do they do on offense? Run alot spread team? Just curious Smile


"I spoke with a friend of mine at work today regarding Plano. He went to the Plano-SGP game. He said SGP gave that game away with costly mistakes. The Wildcats ran the same pass play three times which killed the Warriors. A deep pass where the SGP DB had position on the ball and simply let it slip through his hands - two went for scores and one led to another score. Plano has very little team speed and the QB was just average at best. The QB turned the ball over three times in this game.

If Midland plays their best they should have no problem winning this game. Just don't let their WR get open in the secondary and put lots of pressure on the QB - he isn't that fast."

Sounds to me like you guys are pretty full of yourselves and all the sabre rattling your doing is just an attempt to make you feel superior. Plano hasn't beat anyone that I would consider impressive. You guys are a legend in your own mind. I like our chances.


Very little team speed? With a Midland education, I wouldn't be surprised if your coworker got the two Plano teams mixed up.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:25 PM
You're right 160, scores dont always tell the entire story, but they tell part of it. Saying you stopped a team dead in their tracks is a big statment, and in all reality an overstatement. If you let them hang around because of your own mistakes, then you didnt exactly stop them in their tracks, did you? I hate to be so satirical about it but you have fans saying all kinds of things, making bold statements that have little reality to them.

The D stopped them, man. I mean dead in their tracks. Just no other way to describe it. It was awesome.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 10:26 PM
Very little team speed? With a Midland education, I wouldn't be suprised if your coworker got the two Plano teams mixed up.

LOL i just dont know what to say. Talk about someone making a complete fool of themselves and not realising it. You're responses are so lacking, even you are ignoring half of them.

piratebacker
11-21-2005, 10:28 PM
LOL i just dont know what to say. Talk about someone making a complete fool of themselves and not realising it. You're responces are so lacking, even you are ignoring half of them.

Don't say anything man. Just congratulations to the winning team on Saturday. That's all.

warbird00
11-21-2005, 10:28 PM
The D stopped them, man. I mean dead in their tracks. Just no other way to describe it. It was awesome.

Then that would be "the defense steped up in this game" or perhaps even "our defense dominated" ...judging from the stats, a more accurate statement(im sure you arent very worried about accuracy) would be: "our defense kept us in the game and allowed us to win"