Baytown Lee vs North Shore

[panamamyers]

It's that time...time for North Shore to lose their first district game since the last time Lee broke out the whoopin stick on them.

Now for my prediction,
Lee 3 North Shore 2

[Big Daddy Cool]

I know Lee is going to be pumped for this game. But let's be serious if they couldn't beat Sterling honestly what kind of chance do they have of beating a team that dominated Sterling.

[PantherStang84]

You haven't been drinking any Goose Creek funny water have you?

[panamamyers]

Well, stranger things have happened.

Look, Lee isn't that good this year. One thing Lee has on Sterling though. Lee isn't scared of NS like Sterling is.

Sterling squeezed by Lee somehow.
Lee does have a fast defense that should give NS a whole lot more resistance than Sterling gave.

While Sterling and Lee may be equally poor in the grand scheme of things. They reach their poor level of play in different ways. Sterling is just all around poor in all facets.

Lee is stellar on defense and beyond poor everywhere else.

3-2 Lee will win

[DaSho03Champs]

Well, stranger things have happened.

Look, Lee isn't that good this year. One thing Lee has on Sterling though. Lee isn't scared of NS like Sterling is.

Sterling squeezed by Lee somehow.
Lee does have a fast defense that should give NS a whole lot more resistance than Sterling gave.

While Sterling and Lee may be equally poor in the grand scheme of things. They reach their poor level of play in different ways. Sterling is just all around poor in all facets.

Lee is stellar on defense and beyond poor everywhere else.

3-2 Lee will win


ok panama.....i know that you are a loyal Baytown lee fan and follower (which is all good and i certainly have no prob with), but i just have to ask, if you had no ties to either school, what do you really think would be the outcome of the game? i would like to hear what your honest opinion would be.

[HUM398]

ok panama.....i know that you are a loyal Baytown lee fan and follower (which is all good and i certainly have no prob with), but i just have to ask, if you had no ties to either school, what do you really think would be the outcome of the game? i would like to hear what your honest opinion would be.

I have to say this about panama, if he really thought that Lee couldn't win this game...he would say so.

[NSMustangProud]

You haven't been drinking any Goose Creek funny water have you?

It's funny you say that....I work in the district and they told us last week not to be drinking the water.

[82 5A State Champs]

Sorry panama, but Lee doesn't stand a chance against that stout NS defense. Especially since the Gander offense has had such a hard time moving the ball this year. IMO, the Ganders will not be able to stop the blowout by the Mustangs.

[panamamyers]

Well, I haven't seen NS play this year, so it's hard for me to say.

I do know that WB put up more yards and points on Channelview than North Shore did and Lee was one failed 4th quarter 4th and goal play away from beating West Brook. Lee held the Bruins to 213 yards of offense. That's with 41 of the 48 plays being either a Louis pass or a Louis or Michael run, so it's not like they were without their big guns for the majority of the game or anything.

North Shore couldn't move a lick on Lufkin. The same Lufkin team that got rolled by Conroe.

I'm not here to say that Lee has a superb chance of winning.

I just think that Lee has a chance if they can limit their mistakes. Lee won't have more than 100 yards of offense probably, but if NS is like NS of year's past, then Lee will be able to stop them quite a few times and force punts. Maybe Bates can return a punt or two for touchdowns.

Just like everyone on the setx board predicted a West Brook blowout of Lee. West Brook got all they wanted.

[PantherStang84]

Well, I haven't seen NS play this year, so it's hard for me to say.

I do know that WB put up more yards and points on Channelview than North Shore did and Lee was one failed 4th quarter 4th and goal play away from beating West Brook. Lee held the Bruins to 213 yards of offense. That's with 41 of the 48 plays being either a Louis pass or a Louis or Michael run, so it's not like they were without their big guns for the majority of the game or anything.

North Shore couldn't move a lick on Lufkin. The same Lufkin team that got rolled by Conroe.

I'm not here to say that Lee has a superb chance of winning.

I just think that Lee has a chance if they can limit their mistakes. Lee won't have more than 100 yards of offense probably, but if NS is like NS of year's past, then Lee will be able to stop them quite a few times and force punts. Maybe Bates can return a punt or two for touchdowns.

Just like everyone on the setx board predicted a West Brook blowout of Lee. West Brook got all they wanted.

Be careful if you are trying to use the Lufkin game as a yard stick. Sure they are 4-4. However, Lufkin has gotten worse at the QB position instead of better as the season has progressed. College Park was on the verge of a comeback until Lufkin made a QB switch.

[t00 playa]

Well, I haven't seen NS play this year, so it's hard for me to say.

I do know that WB put up more yards and points on Channelview than North Shore did and Lee was one failed 4th quarter 4th and goal play away from beating West Brook. Lee held the Bruins to 213 yards of offense. That's with 41 of the 48 plays being either a Louis pass or a Louis or Michael run, so it's not like they were without their big guns for the majority of the game or anything.

North Shore couldn't move a lick on Lufkin. The same Lufkin team that got rolled by Conroe.

I'm not here to say that Lee has a superb chance of winning.

I just think that Lee has a chance if they can limit their mistakes. Lee won't have more than 100 yards of offense probably, but if NS is like NS of year's past, then Lee will be able to stop them quite a few times and force punts. Maybe Bates can return a punt or two for touchdowns.

Just like everyone on the setx board predicted a West Brook blowout of Lee. West Brook got all they wanted.


this is the same NS team that hadnt played in almost a month.... hadnt practiced for two weeks straight..... the offense is the first to get out sync....and they were playing at abe..... so all things considered.... i doubt that is a good measuring stick....


but lee and NS always have good games regardless....so it should be a good game nonetheless....:eek:

[panamamyers]

I'm using all of the circumstantial evidence I can get.

I just think that North Shore's defense, which is their strong suit, doesn't really matter much in this game. It matters against the Sterlings, Channelviews, etc. Not here. Why you ask? Because Channelview and their horrid defense can hold Lee to 10 points anyways, so how much better can NS really do than that? It's not like they can hold Lee to negative points.

NS is a bit iffy on offense in most years. I know WB ran ALL OVER Lufkin in the scrimmage and made Lufkin like it. A few weeks later, NS was smothered by Lufkin's defense. What happened in the meantime? Nothing changed there.

NS can intimidate the CV and Sterlings into believing that NS has a good offense. They can't intimidate the Katy and Lufkins into believing that. That's why they look so anemic when they get up against someone that isn't afraid to knock them in the mouth.

[t00 playa]

I'm using all of the circumstantial evidence I can get.

I just think that North Shore's defense, which is their strong suit, doesn't really matter much in this game. It matters against the Sterlings, Channelviews, etc. Not here. Why you ask? Because Channelview and their horrid defense can hold Lee to 10 points anyways, so how much better can NS really do than that? It's not like they can hold Lee to negative points.

NS is a bit iffy on offense in most years. I know WB ran ALL OVER Lufkin in the scrimmage and made Lufkin like it. A few weeks later, NS was smothered by Lufkin's defense. What happened in the meantime? Nothing changed there.

NS can intimidate the CV and Sterlings into believing that NS has a good offense. They can't intimidate the Katy and Lufkins into believing that. That's why they look so anemic when they get up against someone that isn't afraid to knock them in the mouth.

a scrimmage? in that case... memorial should be a top 10 in the state team because they had a lot of success against NS in the scrimmage they had against each other...in fact.. i think it was tied..:eek:

[PantherStang84]

I'm using all of the circumstantial evidence I can get.

I just think that North Shore's defense, which is their strong suit, doesn't really matter much in this game. It matters against the Sterlings, Channelviews, etc. Not here. Why you ask? Because Channelview and their horrid defense can hold Lee to 10 points anyways, so how much better can NS really do than that? It's not like they can hold Lee to negative points.

NS is a bit iffy on offense in most years. I know WB ran ALL OVER Lufkin in the scrimmage and made Lufkin like it. A few weeks later, NS was smothered by Lufkin's defense. What happened in the meantime? Nothing changed there.

NS can intimidate the CV and Sterlings into believing that NS has a good offense. They can't intimidate the Katy and Lufkins into believing that. That's why they look so anemic when they get up against someone that isn't afraid to knock them in the mouth.

And when North Shore needed a game winning drive to put the Lufkin game away late in the 4th Q they got it. The NS offense on that drive went through one of the best defenses in the state like crap through a goose (pun intended).

[t00 playa]

I'm using all of the circumstantial evidence I can get.

I just think that North Shore's defense, which is their strong suit, doesn't really matter much in this game. It matters against the Sterlings, Channelviews, etc. Not here. Why you ask? Because Channelview and their horrid defense can hold Lee to 10 points anyways, so how much better can NS really do than that? It's not like they can hold Lee to negative points.

NS is a bit iffy on offense in most years. I know WB ran ALL OVER Lufkin in the scrimmage and made Lufkin like it. A few weeks later, NS was smothered by Lufkin's defense. What happened in the meantime? Nothing changed there.

NS can intimidate the CV and Sterlings into believing that NS has a good offense. They can't intimidate the Katy and Lufkins into believing that. That's why they look so anemic when they get up against someone that isn't afraid to knock them in the mouth.

maybe its the fact that those teams have good defenses which makes it tougher to move the ball? of course a team is gonna move the ball better against weaker teams....... katy is scoring 40 pts a game... they scored 6 against NS....i guess they were anemic because ns wasnt afraid to "knock them in the mouth"..... maybe katy is good .... but maybe its a little tougher to move the ball against better teams.......so if NS plays pearland who is averaging 60pts a game...and the score is 21-14...either way does that mean pearland offense anemic? or does it mean NS was a better team than they played previous? just trying to follow your logic...:eek:

[t00 playa]

I'm using all of the circumstantial evidence I can get.

I just think that North Shore's defense, which is their strong suit, doesn't really matter much in this game. It matters against the Sterlings, Channelviews, etc. Not here. Why you ask? Because Channelview and their horrid defense can hold Lee to 10 points anyways, so how much better can NS really do than that? It's not like they can hold Lee to negative points.

NS is a bit iffy on offense in most years. I know WB ran ALL OVER Lufkin in the scrimmage and made Lufkin like it. A few weeks later, NS was smothered by Lufkin's defense. What happened in the meantime? Nothing changed there.

NS can intimidate the CV and Sterlings into believing that NS has a good offense. They can't intimidate the Katy and Lufkins into believing that. That's why they look so anemic when they get up against someone that isn't afraid to knock them in the mouth.


but hey..if you think lee's defense is on par with lufkin, or katy then i guess we will see a low scoring game...:eek:

[KT2000]

If North Shore loses this one, I'll eat my keyboard.

[panamamyers]

In that case, West Brook doesn't have a prayer against North Shore either.

Lee had an interception return for a td called back because of penalty and then missed a 4th and goal late in the game against West Brook to lose by 7 points.

I wasn't there at the WB-Lee game, but by all account there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between the two teams.

Lee's defense did a damn sight better job against West Brook than Lufkin did. Scrimmage or no it's still 11 on 11 and it was still Christine Michael chopping them up like Do or Die.
aty Taylor got more yards of offense against Katy than they did against Lee, so yes...I do think Lee has as good of a defense as Katy and better than Lufkin.

Lee's defense is put in so many bad situations because they have the equivalent of a jv team for an offense, but there is no doubt in my mind that Lee has one of the top 4 or 5 defenses in the Houston area.

[Bruin4Life]

thats great since no one said anything about west brook having a chance against north shore...

panama you said it yourself yall are terrible everywhere but on the defensive side of the ball...wonderful if you want the real score it will go down like this

North Shore Defense - 21
Lees Defense - 0

North Shore Offense-28
Lee Offense - 3

what your not looking at panama is the fact that north shores defense has been scoring like crazy for them this season...that pluss the fact that north shore will tire your d out with all the running they will no doubt be doing equals this...

North Shore -49
Lee - 3 (maybe)

[panamamyers]

Just sayin..

I hope kt2000 comes on here and says he'll eat his keyboard if WB beats NS too.

Lee has an absolutely HORRIBLE offense, but their defense has kept them in every single game this year.

You're right. If Lee makes a bunch of turnovers, then turn out the lights. If NS has to drive the ball 70+ yards every time, then I don't think it will be quite as easy as some here may think. After 6 games, Lee is only averaging giving up 200 yards a game this year on defense despite the fact that they are on the field allllll game long.

[82 5A State Champs]

In that case, West Brook doesn't have a prayer against North Shore either.

Lee had an interception return for a td called back because of penalty and then missed a 4th and goal late in the game against West Brook to lose by 7 points.

I wasn't there at the WB-Lee game, but by all account there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between the two teams.

Lee's defense did a damn sight better job against West Brook than Lufkin did. Scrimmage or no it's still 11 on 11 and it was still Christine Michael chopping them up like Do or Die.
aty Taylor got more yards of offense against Katy than they did against Lee, so yes...I do think Lee has as good of a defense as Katy and better than Lufkin.

Lee's defense is put in so many bad situations because they have the equivalent of a jv team for an offense, but there is no doubt in my mind that Lee has one of the top 4 or 5 defenses in the Houston area.
Yeah, but keep this in mind. In the Lee game, C-Mike only played in about 50% of the offensive plays as he became injured in that game. C-Lou left the game at the beginning of the third on a stretcher and didn't return. So you see, all the cards were not in place for us in that game. We've also had some key defensive players out in the past few weeks that have made a difference in our game. I still dont think Lee has much of a chance at beating NS. For that matter, If West Brook can keep it to within two scores against NS, it will have been a good game for us.

[82 5A State Champs]

If North Shore loses this one, I'll eat my keyboard.
I got some hot sauce that might take the edge off if you want!:D

[panamamyers]

Falgout threw 2 passes and the backup running back ran 5 times. Other than that, Michael or Louis ran or threw the ball every other play of the game for West Brook.

I personally think that West Brook is a dang good team. I just think that Lee is taken a litttttle too lightly. Lee could have easily won the West Brook and Sterling games and been sitting at 3-0 in district right now. That's the way the ball bounces. We could have also lost the LP and CV games and been winless right now.

I don't think NS will be rolling all over Lee's defense. I think West Brook has a better offense than NS does.

[82 5A State Champs]

Falgout threw 2 passes and the backup running back ran 5 times. Other than that, Michael or Louis ran or threw the ball every other play of the game for West Brook.

I personally think that West Brook is a dang good team. I just think that Lee is taken a litttttle too lightly. Lee could have easily won the West Brook and Sterling games and been sitting at 3-0 in district right now. That's the way the ball bounces. We could have also lost the LP and CV games and been winless right now.

I don't think NS will be rolling all over Lee's defense. I think West Brook has a better offense than NS does.
Possibly, but their defense is world's better that ours.

[panamamyers]

Exactly, you just made my point for me.

The defense that Lee's offense is going against doesn't really factor in, because a jv defense could stop Lee. The important matchup is Lee's defense against the opposing offense.

[Squirrel88]

I need to point something out. Don't judge NS by what they did with Sterling and Channelview. Anyone that was at that game can tell you... All of the starters were out of the game by midway through the 3rd quarter. If Aymond wouldn't have pulled off the dogs, both of those games would have been a lot higher scoreing. :eek:

My guess?

NS - 49
Lee - 7

[Bruin4Life]

Exactly, you just made my point for me.

The defense that Lee's offense is going against doesn't really factor in, because a jv defense could stop Lee. The important matchup is Lee's defense against the opposing offense.


it will be a factor when fumbles and interceptions are returned for tds

[Moose Knuckles]

With Lee having a full week to prepare vs. NS coming in on a short week, and playing on the road I see the final as being:

NS-32
Lee-6

[nsmustang]

Everyone will have to remember that panamameyers says this every time NS and Lee get together. Most people expect a good game due to the history of these two teams and Olin will go all out to win it as will Aymond. I will just say that while anything can happen, the NS defense will hold Lee easily and the NS offense, as weak as panama says it is, will do just fine. My understanding from his post is that the Lee offense is better than the NS offense but both defenses are very good therefore giving Lee the edge. What's not factored in is that NS's defense is far better than he thinks. He will be very surprised at the aggresive defense NS has this year and it will prove to be more than Lee can handle. I haven't seen any defense yet that has the smell of blood like NS's this year. I also notice we are not getting hammered by all the "Weak Schedule" fanatics this year.

[Squirrel88]

Everyone will have to remember that panamameyers says this every time NS and Lee get together. Most people expect a good game due to the history of these two teams and Olin will go all out to win it as will Aymond. I will just say that while anything can happen, the NS defense will hold Lee easily and the NS offense, as weak as panama says it is, will do just fine. My understanding from his post is that the Lee offense is better than the NS offense but both defenses are very good therefore giving Lee the edge. He will be very surprised at the aggresive defense NS has this year and it will prove to be more than Lee can handle. I haven't seen any defense yet that has the smell of blood like NS's this year. I also notice we are not getting hammered by all the "Weak Schedule" fanatics this year.

That's Pearland's title this year.

[nsmustang]

That's Pearland's title this year.

LOL! That is funny but as we've said about NS, you can't help the district you are in.

[Squirrel88]

I was kind of hoping that this district (21-5a) would be a little tougher than what it has turned out to be.

[panamamyers]

North Shore's offense is 10 times better than Lee's offense.

I just think that Lee's defense is at least comparable to NS's defense, which will keep Lee in the game.

And of course I say this every time Lee plays NS.
Lee could have easily won the last time we played NS and it went to overtime, and the time before that we did win.
The last time Lee beat NS, we were 4-5 I believe and had to win that game to make the playoffs. I'm sure no one gave Lee a chance that year either.

No one gave Lee a chance 2 years ago when we took NS to overtime.

[Squirrel88]

You are comparing apples to oranges. Our offense 2 years ago looks nothing like our offense this year. The QB at that time could barly hit the broad side of a barn with a football. This QB is quick and is a very accurate passer.

I believe this years defense is the closest I have seen to the 03 defense. Where the last several years we have been weak in pass coverage, this years D seems to think that you are passing to them.

But I am not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me, so we will have to wait until Thursday night.

[fbstangman]

All this Lee vs. NorthShore talk reminded me of a good memory. Last game at Dement. Baytown Lee running a potent offense directed by Drew Tate. NorthShore with an unstoppable running game featuring two 2000yrd backs, and a defense with seven starting sophomores. And Willie Gaston at QB.
Halftime score near tied somewhere in the 30's. Final score
77-34. NorthShore. Sweet Memories.

[panamamyers]

I just like to come and talk a little noise is all.

It's all in good fun.

Now, if my life depended on the outcome of the game, I would side with North Shore.

I do think Lee has a 5-10% chance, which is better than a no percent chance.

[ktCarl]

If North Shore loses this one, I'll eat my keyboard.


I'll have to see what happens in this game. Even though NS probably wins big I think for safety's sake you go out and buy you some honey or molasses. :D

[Squirrel88]

I just like to come and talk a little noise is all.

It's all in good fun.

Now, if my life depended on the outcome of the game, I would side with North Shore.

I do think Lee has a 5-10% chance, which is better than a no percent chance.

In my opinion Lee has a < 5% chance of wining of they are counting on their defense. If you still have doubts ask Katy, Ike, Lufkin or Sterling.

Your comparing a defense that let Sterling score 21 points on you and beat you to NS's? I stand behind my previous statement...

Final Score...
NS - 49
Lee - 7

[Oiler Alumni Deer Dad]

I know Lee is going to be pumped for this game. But let's be serious if they couldn't beat Sterling honestly what kind of chance do they have of beating a team that dominated Sterling.


I got to see Baytown Lee.......Beat NS???? What are you smoking?

[nsmustang]

I just like to come and talk a little noise is all.

It's all in good fun.

Now, if my life depended on the outcome of the game, I would side with North Shore.

I do think Lee has a 5-10% chance, which is better than a no percent chance.

I like your honesty pm. I do expect Lee to come out swinging. As I said before, Olin will have them fired up.

[t00 playa]

I just like to come and talk a little noise is all.

It's all in good fun.

Now, if my life depended on the outcome of the game, I would side with North Shore.

I do think Lee has a 5-10% chance, which is better than a no percent chance.


NS and lee is always a good game.... no matter what... i dont think that its the fact that lee is not afraid of NS which makes games closer between the two...but rather the fact that lee is just better coached than many of the teams that we play....even if talent is down... you guys always seem to have a well thought out game plan.... i was just giving you a hard time trying to follow your logic in earlier posts.... i expect this to be a good game.... maybe closer than people are expecting..... its a big game... on TV...so the kids will be ready to go...:eek:

[panamamyers]

Well, Sterling blocked a Lee punt and set them up at the 6 yard line for one of the td's. One other came after a 62 yard screen pass in the second quarter, which was the only first down Sterling got in the entire first half that didn't come by penalty. Sterling had 88 yards of offense in the first half, with 62 of it coming on that one screen pass.

The second half the Lee defense wears out because they are on the field all freaking day.

Sterling ended up with 243 yards of offense. Let's not pretend like they cut through Lee like a knife through warm butter now.

Sterling had 186 yards against NS.
Channelview had 142 yards against Lee and 165 against NS.

So, again, let's not act like Lee isn't in the same ballpark with NS defensively. Lee has an excellent defense this year. They just couldn't drive their way out of a paper bag on offense.

You have every right to believe that NS will roll through Lee.
Lee has a poor record right now.
Anyone can play the ifs and buts game, but just go look at Lee's scores. Three of the losses were by a combined 12 points.

These types of posts were what I heard before the WB game too, and Lee almost went to Beaumont and won the game.

[lil_cb_05]

Alex is becoming a stud right in front of our eyes. Every week he has improved his performance (stat wise) and the offense seem to be climbing up the ladder and getting even with the defense play making ability. Lee's defense should be a good test for Tillman and the offense. By no team scoring no more than 24 points on them, that's pretty impressive. I think NS will score well over 24.

[Squirrel88]

Well, Sterling blocked a Lee punt and set them up at the 6 yard line for one of the td's. One other came after a 62 yard screen pass in the second quarter, which was the only first down Sterling got in the entire first half that didn't come by penalty. Sterling had 88 yards of offense in the first half, with 62 of it coming on that one screen pass.

The second half the Lee defense wears out because they are on the field all freaking day.

Sterling ended up with 243 yards of offense. Let's not pretend like they cut through Lee like a knife through warm butter now.

Sterling had 186 yards against NS.
Channelview had 142 yards against Lee and 165 against NS.

So, again, let's not act like Lee isn't in the same ballpark with NS defensively. Lee has an excellent defense this year. They just couldn't drive their way out of a paper bag on offense.

You have every right to believe that NS will roll through Lee.
Lee has a poor record right now.
Anyone can play the ifs and buts game, but just go look at Lee's scores. Three of the losses were by a combined 12 points.

These types of posts were what I heard before the WB game too, and Lee almost went to Beaumont and won the game.

As a total NS defense vs total Lee defense team, I have to agree with you. As I said in my past post most of NS's starters were completely out of the game by the middle of the 3rd quarter. Most of the offensive yards put on NS was during the 3rd and 4th quarter.

Don't think that Lee's D will wear out NS's O... NS's O is deep.:eek:

[panamamyers]

The scenario I could see where this game gets out of hand is the same scenario I saw happen against Seven Lakes and Katy Taylor. Lee fumbles the ball around, gets some dumb late hit penalties, gets a couple punts blocked...

Next thing you know it's 28-0 with 8 minutes to go in the second quarter.

If North Shore is forced to move the ball methodically down the field for 75 yard scoring drives, I don't see it happening often.

If North Shore has a really good power running game, then I could see them moving the ball that way. Lee is a lot faster than North Shore, so the Mustangs will have to take advantage of the size factor.

[t00 playa]

The scenario I could see where this game gets out of hand is the same scenario I saw happen against Seven Lakes and Katy Taylor. Lee fumbles the ball around, gets some dumb late hit penalties, gets a couple punts blocked...

Next thing you know it's 28-0 with 8 minutes to go in the second quarter.

If North Shore is forced to move the ball methodically down the field for 75 yard scoring drives, I don't see it happening often.

If North Shore has a really good power running game, then I could see them moving the ball that way. Lee is a lot faster than North Shore, so the Mustangs will have to take advantage of the size factor.

hmmm...:eek:

[panamamyers]

I was wondering if anyone would catch that lol

[t00 playa]

I was wondering if anyone would catch that lol



so does this mean that you will be at the game?:eek:

[panamamyers]

Well, as much as I would give my left arm to be there....
Unfortunately, I work every Thursday night now until 8:15, so I won't be able to make it. I will dvr the game and watch it when I get home though.

I haven't missed a Lee game by choice since 1987.

[LPack007]

NS and lee is always a good game.... no matter what... i dont think that its the fact that lee is not afraid of NS which makes games closer between the two...but rather the fact that lee is just better coached than many of the teams that we play....even if talent is down... you guys always seem to have a well thought out game plan.... i was just giving you a hard time trying to follow your logic in earlier posts.... i expect this to be a good game.... maybe closer than people are expecting..... its a big game... on TV...so the kids will be ready to go...:eek:

what channel?:eek:

[NSMustangProud]

Is the game thursday or friday night

[Squirrel88]

Looks like it will be this Thursday night.:ninja:

[Squirrel88]

what channel?:eek:

It's going to be on Channel 55, The Tube, Thursday night at 7pm. If anyone wants to check it out.

[becomingwater]

Northshore - 49

Lee - 10

Northshore is only getting better.

[becomingwater]

Looks like it will be this Thursday night.:ninja:

So, GPNS vs Lee is Thursday night?

[Squirrel88]

So, GPNS vs Lee is Thursday night?

Yes, North Shore is playing Lee Thursday night in Baytown at 7pm.

[panamamyers]

I hate to give away the secrets klike this but...
Here is the recipe for a Lee win....
everyone feel free to write this down and use it on your own

No turnovers, less than 5 penalties

Then, we will need to score once on special teams and once on defense.

[Squirrel88]

I hate to give away the secrets klike this but...
Here is the recipe for a Lee win....
everyone feel free to write this down and use it on your own

No turnovers, less than 5 penalties

Then, we will need to score once on special teams and once on defense.

Then you can wake up from that dream.

[DaSho03Champs]

Lee is a lot faster than North Shore, so the Mustangs will have to take advantage of the size factor.


I would be willing to take that bet. maybe you have a guy or two that is faster....but overall team speed??? yeah, like i said...i would be willing to take that bet.

[panamamyers]

Pure team speed on the defense alone, I Would take a bet that Lee has more.

[Squirrel88]

Pure team speed on the defense alone, I Would take a bet that Lee has more.

That is a bet that I believe you would lose.


Anyone from an outside perspective want to chime in?

[NSHORE87]

Thursday's Game is going to be a dry run until we face Westbrook. It is what it is..
North Shore 66
Baytown Lee 6

[panamamyers]

No one else needs to chime in, we can just go to the district track meet next spring and see for ourselves.

[Big Daddy Cool]

Since they don't wear pads at the district track meet that wouldn't prove who is faster on the football field. There are a lot of kids that are fast as lightning on the track, but no so much once you put pads on them and take them off the track.

[panamamyers]

True.

Lee may not be a good football team this year, they may not have an offense to speak of, they may not be able to stop a power running game, but one thing I can say with unquestioned certainty is that they are lightning fast all across the defense.


Of course the NS defense will look faster relatively in this game, because Lee's offense plays like they are wearing concrete boots.

Have any of you that are talking even seen Lee play?
On what do you base your opinion of Lee's team speed?

[t00 playa]

No one else needs to chime in, we can just go to the district track meet next spring and see for ourselves.

thats because you have track athletes in football pads..... NS has football players in football pads.... theres a difference.... and that may explain your record....:eek:

[Bruin4Life]

thats because you have track athletes in football pads..... NS has football players in football pads.... theres a difference.... and that may explain your record....:eek:

and what happens when track athletes get hit by football players...

footballs go flying

[panamamyers]

That's why Beaumont West Brook fumbled the ball 4 times when they played Lee.

I never indicated that Lee wasn't a bunch of track guys playing football or that they were. I will leave that up to you to decide when you watch the game Thursday night.
All I said was that they were fast.

Look...we went through this same line of conversation two years ago when NS thought they were going to come into Stallworth and smash some heads. Didn't happen

[Squirrel88]

True.

Lee may not be a good football team this year, they may not have an offense to speak of, they may not be able to stop a power running game, but one thing I can say with unquestioned certainty is that they are lightning fast all across the defense.


Of course the NS defense will look faster relatively in this game, because Lee's offense plays like they are wearing concrete boots.

Have any of you that are talking even seen Lee play?
On what do you base your opinion of Lee's team speed?

This news just in (beep...beep... beep) NS has a balanced pass/run offense.

And no, I have not seen Lee's D play. I will let you know what I think after the game. They may have just as fast defense, but very few d's are as big and as fast as this years NS D.
KT2000, what's your two cents?

[t00 playa]

That's why Beaumont West Brook fumbled the ball 4 times when they played Lee.

I never indicated that Lee wasn't a bunch of track guys playing football or that they were. I will leave that up to you to decide when you watch the game Thursday night.
All I said was that they were fast.

Look...we went through this same line of conversation two years ago when NS thought they were going to come into Stallworth and smash some heads. Didn't happen

you mean two years ago when Fizer was our QB and I harped all season how our offense was horrid....and it was.... it was by far one the poorest I have seen.... remember that year we only scored what..3 points on pasadena memorial at halftime? we had a great defense...but the offense was horrible...im sure if you were to go back and look at the posts from that era, you would find the complaints about how anemic the offense was....we wouldnt find posts about how we were gonna smash some heads.... in fact..i already knew NS was in some deep trouble, long before the playoffs started.... so please be correct in your statements....dont bend the truth and hide your case behind it.....:eek:

[Bruin4Life]

That's why Beaumont West Brook fumbled the ball 4 times when they played Lee.

I never indicated that Lee wasn't a bunch of track guys playing football or that they were. I will leave that up to you to decide when you watch the game Thursday night.
All I said was that they were fast.

Look...we went through this same line of conversation two years ago when NS thought they were going to come into Stallworth and smash some heads. Didn't happen

too bad yall arent playing us...north shore and west brook are two different types of football...especially on the defensive side and the ball control side

[nsmustang]

you mean two years ago when Fizer was our QB and I harped all season how our offense was horrid....and it was.... it was by far one the poorest I have seen.... remember that year we only scored what..3 points on pasadena memorial at halftime? we had a great defense...but the offense was horrible...im sure if you were to go back and look at the posts from that era, you would find the complaints about how anemic the offense was....we wouldnt find posts about how we were gonna smash some heads.... in fact..i already knew NS was in some deep trouble, long before the playoffs started.... so please be correct in your statements....dont bend the truth and hide your case behind it.....:eek:

How well I remember that season. You were not the only one disgusted with NS's offense that year and we all could see an end coming at some point because of it. A lot of NS posters that year were right with you on that subject.

[t00 playa]

How well I remember that season. You were not the only one disgusted with NS's offense that year and we all could see an end coming at some point because of it. A lot of NS posters that year were right with you on that subject.

and while this years offense still has a long way to go... they have more weapons, and are showing glimpses of how good they can be..... the biggest difference between the two is that tillman can hit recievers...whereas fizer had trouble completing every pass he threw....but hey...it happens... im sure fizer was giving it all he had.....but it just didnt work out...cant fault him or anyone.... :eek:

[panamamyers]

Bruin, you said that track stars playing football fumble a lot, so I was just pointing out that the Bruins must have a lot of track stars. They were acting like the ball was a greased pig against the Ganders. Either that or the Ganders were latying some wood on them.

Go back and check all you want two years ago. Everyone on this forum thought that the Mustangs were going to roll all over the Ganders...much like the tone you see in this forum this week. It feels eerily similar as a matter of fact.

The Ganders had a horrendous defense that year, so the poor NS offense wasn't really going to hurt them too much. NS scored plenty7. The Ganders just cut through that great NS defense like a knife that year.

This year is a completely different matchup.

NS has a better offense, Lee has a better defense.
It won't be a high scoring affair like two years ago.

[goodolboy]

Does GPNS have a chance of making it to state this year?

[Big Daddy Cool]

They have as good of a chance as any other team in the state. As we saw last year funny things happen come playoff time. I mean after the season Converse Judson had no one other than Rocket fans thought they would end up going as far as they did.

[lil_cb_05]

Lee had a descent team that year. That one little fast receiver was giving our defense hell. Jeremiah should of started over Fizer but we know how Aymond is with his QB's. He's going to ride with them to the end. That 2nd round lost to Pearland is #2 on my top 5 sickest games list. Pearland made it pretty far so we definitely could of went to state that year.

[panamamyers]

Rashad Mohammed was the little receiver for Lee that year. He's running track at Southern University now and doing quite well.

North Shore was 10-0 coming into that game and had only given up 52 points all year. Lee laid down 33 on them that game.

We shall see how things go this Thursday

[fbstangman]

Panameyers, Lee put 33 on NS and still LOST. Baytown Lee hasn't beaten NS in 7 years.
In the last 6 years we have lost to:Eisenhower, Pearland, Spring Westfield twice,and Converse Judson. That is it. 5 loses in 6 years. In 2003 we lost.... NOBODY.
In 2001, we lost to Vince Young and Madison 61-58.
All loses in the last 6 years have been in the playoffs.

[panamamyers]

Ok...lol
Like we've been playing every year or something...

North Shore beat Lee by one point two years ago and beat us good in 2001. Lee beat NS in 2000 and 1997, so the Ganders are 2-2 in the past 10 years against NS. The record is 4-4 if you go back the last 15 years.

[Terri Baker]

I was at the game last Friday to watch Sterling play NS. I am not a Sterling or NS fan but love good high school football and love that great stadium and the weather was just to good to pass up. I couldn't help but see that NS probably had a third more players than Sterling and it was evident after about 5 minutes that NS was more than dominant. It made me wonder if Sterling or Lee or anyone else in the district were playing 2A or 3A schools would they be that dominant. I know this has probably been discussed but it just didn't seem fair that NS has 4000+ student population about twice as most of the schools in their district. I guess there just aren't enough schools that have that large a population to make it a seperate division. It almost seems dangerous for those big guys to be playing Channelview, Lee, Sterling and maybe anyone else in their district. I know Lee has several players that have to play offense and defense because they are so thin. According to what was displayed at the stadium, NS had a state championship in 2003. So it looks like that once they get on a more even playing field they are not as dominant. Just my observation and I haven't been following high school football as much the last few years. I could be all wrong and I would like for someone to tell if I am and why.

[panamamyers]

Good point Terri.

North Shore does have twice as many students as Lee.
Plus a lot of kids transfer into North Shore for the sole purpose of playing football. At least two of Lee's kids have done just that over the last 5 years.

That's not going to be used as an excuse though.
Lee will give North Shore a game this Thursday night.

[Bruin4Life]

Bruin, you said that track stars playing football fumble a lot, so I was just pointing out that the Bruins must have a lot of track stars. They were acting like the ball was a greased pig against the Ganders. Either that or the Ganders were latying some wood on them.

Go back and check all you want two years ago. Everyone on this forum thought that the Mustangs were going to roll all over the Ganders...much like the tone you see in this forum this week. It feels eerily similar as a matter of fact.

The Ganders had a horrendous defense that year, so the poor NS offense wasn't really going to hurt them too much. NS scored plenty7. The Ganders just cut through that great NS defense like a knife that year.

This year is a completely different matchup.

NS has a better offense, Lee has a better defense.
It won't be a high scoring affair like two years ago.

c-mike used to run track:D

[t00 playa]

regardless of all the attempts at inducing trash talk.... this will be a good game..... i just hope NS is hyped up for this game.... i really dont want to see them come out like they did against channelview...with no energy, motivation or anything...... :eek:

[nsmustang]

I was at the game last Friday to watch Sterling play NS. I am not a Sterling or NS fan but love good high school football and love that great stadium and the weather was just to good to pass up. I couldn't help but see that NS probably had a third more players than Sterling and it was evident after about 5 minutes that NS was more than dominant. It made me wonder if Sterling or Lee or anyone else in the district were playing 2A or 3A schools would they be that dominant. I know this has probably been discussed but it just didn't seem fair that NS has 4000+ student population about twice as most of the schools in their district. I guess there just aren't enough schools that have that large a population to make it a seperate division. It almost seems dangerous for those big guys to be playing Channelview, Lee, Sterling and maybe anyone else in their [/B[B]]district. I know Lee has several players that have to play offense and defense because they are so thin. According to what was displayed at the stadium, NS had a state championship in 2003. So it looks like that once they get on a more even playing field they are not as dominant. Just my observation and I haven't been following high school football as much the last few years. I could be all wrong and I would like for someone to tell if I am and why.

You are kidding aren't you?

[panamamyers]

I can only imagine what type of team Baytown could field if Sterling, Lee and GCM were all one school. No doubt that it would be a state title contender in multiple sports every year.

[Big Daddy Cool]

Since you brought that up how much did the new school take from Lee and Sterling or did it rob more from one than it did the other?

[panamamyers]

I am not sure in the long run how many will come from Lee or Sterling and go to the new school. I do know that Lee is now probably under the cutoff for a 5a school, so they should be going 4A next go around.

Unfortunately Baytown couldn't grasp how much more city pride there would be if they had a combined high school that was actually competitive in sports.

They were too concerned about making sure that everyone in the city could have a starting position on a varsity team.

Go and ask those third string seniors on Katy High that never get in the game until garbage time if they would trade in their state championship ring for more playing time on a 5-5 team.

[DaSho03Champs]

I am not sure in the long run how many will come from Lee or Sterling and go to the new school. I do know that Lee is now probably under the cutoff for a 5a school, so they should be going 4A next go around.

Unfortunately Baytown couldn't grasp how much more city pride there would be if they had a combined high school that was actually competitive in sports.

They were too concerned about making sure that everyone in the city could have a starting position on a varsity team.

Go and ask those third string seniors on Katy High that never get in the game until garbage time if they would trade in their state championship ring for more playing time on a 5-5 team.


finally you and i agree on something....lol! this is why North Shore has two seperate campuses (9th/10th) and (11th/12th). As long as Mr. Aymond is the head coach and Mr. Warken is the AD....there will be no building of new high schools in the area, thus no splitting of the talent.

[lil_cb_05]

finally you and i agree on something....lol! this is why North Shore has two seperate campuses (9th/10th) and (11th/12th). As long as Mr. Aymond is the head coach and Mr. Warken is the AD....there will be no building of new high schools in the area, thus no splitting of the talent.

I know right. Each class will have their on campus before they build another school in our area with a different name.

[HUM398]

finally you and i agree on something....lol! this is why North Shore has two seperate campuses (9th/10th) and (11th/12th). As long as Mr. Aymond is the head coach and Mr. Warken is the AD....there will be no building of new high schools in the area, thus no splitting of the talent.

Sorry to say. that Mr. Aymond nor Mr. Warken have any say in the matter....

Humble didn't want to split and make Atascocita...in fact, they originally wanted a 9th and 10th HS, and a senior HS....like NS. They intention was to have over 5,000 kids attending one High School, two separate locations. Atascocita and Summer Creek came to be because the population north of the river didn't want such thing. They voted No against the proposition in 02.

NS has the advantage because their population center is in NS...and people will vote to keep just 1 HS on those sides of the tracks. Humble lived in the smaller populated side, and lost out at an opportunity to be completely STACKED at ever sport. Humble will always thrive at football, and basketball...but the days of Swimming, Water Polo, Cross country, soccer, and baseball are pretty much done.

If the school board decides to split the schools...they will.

[Bruin4Life]

I can only imagine what type of team Baytown could field if Sterling, Lee and GCM were all one school. No doubt that it would be a state title contender in multiple sports every year.

thats what they thought in port arthur...and look where they are at now...i know its different cause its baytown but im just sayin

[ruffshod]

I was at the game last Friday to watch Sterling play NS. I am not a Sterling or NS fan but love good high school football and love that great stadium and the weather was just to good to pass up. I couldn't help but see that NS probably had a third more players than Sterling and it was evident after about 5 minutes that NS was more than dominant. It made me wonder if Sterling or Lee or anyone else in the district were playing 2A or 3A schools would they be that dominant. I know this has probably been discussed but it just didn't seem fair that NS has 4000+ student population about twice as most of the schools in their district. I guess there just aren't enough schools that have that large a population to make it a seperate division. It almost seems dangerous for those big guys to be playing Channelview, Lee, Sterling and maybe anyone else in their district. I know Lee has several players that have to play offense and defense because they are so thin. According to what was displayed at the stadium, NS had a state championship in 2003. So it looks like that once they get on a more even playing field they are not as dominant. Just my observation and I haven't been following high school football as much the last few years. I could be all wrong and I would like for someone to tell if I am and why.

Katy, LaMarque, Lufkin and a few others have similar enrollment numbers to the other schools in our district, but have just as many if not more kids come out for football as we do. Yates and Lamar do too as well just to name a few.

[ruffshod]

thats what they thought in port arthur...and look where they are at now...i know its different cause its baytown but im just sayin

Baytown would be a bit different as there aren't too many private schools in the near vicinity.

[Bruin4Life]

Baytown would be a bit different as there aren't too many private schools in the near vicinity.

theres only one significant private school and they arent that big at all...all the kids from port arthur go to port arthur

[ruffshod]

theres only one significant private school and they arent that big at all...all the kids from port arthur go to port arthur

Were all those kids from Lincoln? Because that's what makes up the bulk of Memorial's enrollment.

[Bruin4Life]

Were all those kids from Lincoln? Because that's what makes up the bulk of Memorial's enrollment.

lincoln, tj, and sfa combined to make memorial

[HUM398]

theres only one significant private school and they arent that big at all...all the kids from port arthur go to port arthur

Port Arthur is very talented....they just have a crappy coach.


PA is on par with Ike, Westfield, Lamarque, etc. etc. talent wise....

[panamamyers]

I can't say much for PAM. I know that Baytown would be loaded if you just combined Lee and Sterling this year.

[lil_cb_05]

I can't say much for PAM. I know that Baytown would be loaded if you just combined Lee and Sterling this year.

How far are the two school apart?

[NSHORE87]

i remember in the 80's when i was playing Sterling they looked like the Dallas Cowboys. Some of the old school guys will remember the Star on the helmet and the way the OL would break out of the huddle and run to the line and on DOWN they would stand up and go into the 3 point stance like the old Cowboys...

[DaSho03Champs]

Sorry to say. that Mr. Aymond nor Mr. Warken have any say in the matter....

Humble didn't want to split and make Atascocita...in fact, they originally wanted a 9th and 10th HS, and a senior HS....like NS. They intention was to have over 5,000 kids attending one High School, two separate locations. Atascocita and Summer Creek came to be because the population north of the river didn't want such thing. They voted No against the proposition in 02.

NS has the advantage because their population center is in NS...and people will vote to keep just 1 HS on those sides of the tracks. Humble lived in the smaller populated side, and lost out at an opportunity to be completely STACKED at ever sport. Humble will always thrive at football, and basketball...but the days of Swimming, Water Polo, Cross country, soccer, and baseball are pretty much done.

If the school board decides to split the schools...they will.


Don't underestimate the power (or should i say influence) those two gentleman have. Not saying that the final word or decision will come from them, but their opinions/thoughts will strongly be taken into consideration. Dont forget that before Coach Aymond arrived, North Shore was a basketball school (under Coach Weisinger) and the football program was in total disarray. Yes, there was talent on campus but the coaching was, in a very nice way to put it, very subpar. 3-7 and 2-8 records inlcuding going winless in district play was the norm. Plus, it seemed that every away game was the other school's "HOMECOMING"...and u know what that means.

Coach Aymond came in 1994 and turned it around instantly which gave him "savior" status in these parts. He did what mack brown did for texas, reviving their program back to national prominence. The 2003 championship he brought to NS (similar to UT's NC in 2005) pretty much cemented his legacy.

So, like i said dont underestimate Coach Aymond and Mr. Warken.

[HUM398]

Don't underestimate the power (or should i say influence) those two gentleman have. Not saying that the final word or decision will come from them, but their opinions/thoughts will strongly be taken into consideration. Dont forget that before Coach Aymond arrived, North Shore was a basketball school (under Coach Weisinger) and the football program was in total disarray. Yes, there was talent on campus but the coaching was, in a very nice way to put it, very subpar. 3-7 and 2-8 records inlcuding going winless in district play was the norm. Plus, it seemed that every away game was the other school's "HOMECOMING"...and u know what that means.

Coach Aymond came in 1994 and turned it around instantly which gave him "savior" status in these parts. He did what mack brown did for texas, reviving their program back to national prominence. The 2003 championship he brought to NS (similar to UT's NC in 2005) pretty much cemented his legacy.

So, like i said dont underestimate Coach Aymond and Mr. Warken.


Don't underestimate a Government entity either...they will screw you when they get a shot.

[NSHORE87]

Don't underestimate the power (or should i say influence) those two gentleman have. Not saying that the final word or decision will come from them, but their opinions/thoughts will strongly be taken into consideration. Dont forget that before Coach Aymond arrived, North Shore was a basketball school (under Coach Weisinger) and the football program was in total disarray. Yes, there was talent on campus but the coaching was, in a very nice way to put it, very subpar. 3-7 and 2-8 records inlcuding going winless in district play was the norm. Plus, it seemed that every away game was the other school's "HOMECOMING"...and u know what that means.

Coach Aymond came in 1994 and turned it around instantly which gave him "savior" status in these parts. He did what mack brown did for texas, reviving their program back to national prominence. The 2003 championship he brought to NS (similar to UT's NC in 2005) pretty much cemented his legacy.

So, like i said dont underestimate Coach Aymond and Mr. Warken.


I was part of the wonderful 86 Team (1-9) and the 87 Team (6-3-1)
Good Times

[DaSho03Champs]

Port Arthur is very talented....they just have a crappy coach.


PA is on par with Ike, Westfield, Lamarque, etc. etc. talent wise....


i actually lived in the PA area for a year and this is my opinion on them:

- the area does have some talent and with the right coaching, they COULD BE dangerous. their situation is comparable to what's going on in HISD, Aldine ISD, and North Forest ID.

- consider that this area was affected by Hurricane Rita and to this day, some parts of town still haven't been renovated. lots of families moved away also.

- the fact that there are lots of other high schools in the general area (West Brook, Central, Ozen, Port Neches Groves, Nederland) gives kids other options to where they wanna go to school. and yes, let's not kid ourselves, this is taken into consideration by some and does happen from time to time.

- and let's not forget before the merger, Lincoln was a powerhouse at the 4A level and most of their success came on the hardcourt not on the gridiron and Jefferson wasn't exactly known for their athletic prowess.

- but overall the area's potential for success is intriguing. all it needs is the right coach to get it there.

[DaSho03Champs]

I was part of the wonderful 86 Team (1-9) and the 87 Team (6-3-1)
Good Times

LANCE GUNN baby! For those that dont know, he was probably the first major recruit ever at North Shore. He played at UT and even played 1 or 2 seasons in the NFL with the Cincinnati Bengals. i was like in middle school at the time and i was in awe of this guy. I swore i was watching Ronnie Lott...lol!

by the way, the 87 team was the last team to have a winning record until Aymond arrived in 1994.

[becomingwater]

Is there a website that is streaming the game on TV?

[anotherNS]

No, only on broadcast.

[ruffshod]

i remember in the 80's when i was playing Sterling they looked like the Dallas Cowboys. Some of the old school guys will remember the Star on the helmet and the way the OL would break out of the huddle and run to the line and on DOWN they would stand up and go into the 3 point stance like the old Cowboys...

You're showing your age.:D

[ruffshod]

LANCE GUNN baby! For those that dont know, he was probably the first major recruit ever at North Shore. He played at UT and even played 1 or 2 seasons in the NFL with the Cincinnati Bengals. i was like in middle school at the time and i was in awe of this guy. I swore i was watching Ronnie Lott...lol!

by the way, the 87 team was the last team to have a winning record until Aymond arrived in 1994.

Actually Tommy Woods was the first major recruit. He also went to Texas.

[NSMustangProud]

You're showing your age.:D


Darn, if he's showing his age I'm really showing mine. I remember when they had the stars on the helmets as well. My ninth grade year 74-75....Sterling beat NS who was 9 and 1.....Sterling was their only loss.

Tommy Woods? Are we talking the Tommy Woods that graduated in 79? I believe he was a tailback because he and the guy I dated fought over that position.

[NSMustangProud]

Don't underestimate a Government entity either...they will screw you when they get a shot.


I think you'd be surprised at the influence these two men have.....esp. when you have a superintendent that truly supports sports and has alot of respect for these two men. NS also brings in a ton of money for football alone, so I don't think they are going to do anything to mess up those funds.

[NSmustang98]

Wow, this one is already over!

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Wow, this one is already over!

That's nutz. You get down to the 10 yard line on a huge KR, then have a mis-snap and DE-White returns the ball 70 yds. 1 offensive play = 1 td, later! Yes, this one is over. NS looks like they'll hang about 60 on'em. Aymond doesn't like to run up the score, though.

Btw... would yah look at the stands. That's pathetic. Looks like about 5 families in attendance. LMAO!

[dada]

That's nutz. You get down to the 10 yard line on a huge KR, then have a mis-snap and DE-White returns the ball 70 yds. 1 offensive play = 1 td, later! Yes, this one is over. NS looks like they'll hang about 60 on'em. Aymond doesn't like to run up the score, though.

Btw... would yah look at the stands. That's pathetic. Looks like about 5 families in attendance. LMAO!

late arriving crowd?...wow

[dada]

nm

[ThEgReAtOnE]

North Shore's O-line might gain another 15 lbs before the end of the game. They are executing better than the first of the year vs Katy, but they just hit the redzone and should've scored.

Btw, their Kicker wont be winning any games for NS, any time soon.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

North Shore's defense is a beast. Plain and simple. EASILY the most physical defense I've seen all year. (And I just saw The Woodlands, last week.)

We'll see what the Pearland "D" is looking like, tomorrow, as TGO will be in attendance.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Get I get a coach to PLEASE teach someone how to hold onto the ball?? This is pathetic. And what's with this "White Team", stuff, ref?? Just say, "Holding on North Shore!" This is one ugly game.

[LPack007]

North Shore's defense is a beast. Plain and simple. EASILY the most physical defense I've seen all year. (And I just saw The Woodlands, last week.)

We'll see what the Pearland "D" is looking like, tomorrow, as TGO will be in attendance.

Ditto.

[dada]

I think NS' Defense and Special teams have about as many points as the offense

[NSMustangProud]

OMG, I know my eyes are bad now. Most times I can't see on the field because my eyes are so bad....love watching this on tv.....just bought my bigscreen and it's awesome!

The defense is just awesome.....poor Ganders....they are trying!

[The Original]

North Shore's defense is a beast. Plain and simple. EASILY the most physical defense I've seen all year. (And I just saw The Woodlands, last week.)

We'll see what the Pearland "D" is looking like, tomorrow, as TGO will be in attendance.



TGO ?

[ThEgReAtOnE]

OMG, I know my eyes are bad now. Most times I can't see on the field because my eyes are so bad....lov watching this on tv.....just bought my bigscreen and it's awesome!

The defense is just awesome.....poor Ganders....they are trying!

Did you just sell us on your big screen tv?? LMAO!! You remind me of the commercial where the guy goes and buys a big screen tv and his son says, "Daddy, I can see the people, now!"

[dada]

TGO ?

The Great One

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Tillman has grown by LEAPS and BOUNDS since I saw him vs Katy. The kid even seems faster. So much for pegging him not the starting QB not to lead NS to the promise land.

Then again, this is against a so-so Lee team.

[NSMustangProud]

Offense is making too many mistakes! We still have some things to work on!

[lil_cb_05]

I love seeing the passing attack but they need to get at least one more td before they start playing.

[lil_cb_05]

Tillman has grown by LEAPS and BOUNDS since I saw him vs Katy. The kid even seems faster. So much for pegging him not the starting QB not to lead NS to the promise land.

Then again, this is against a so-so Lee team.

Same thing I said.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Offense is making too many mistakes! We still have some things to work on!

No doubt. And.. there's only two weeks until the playoffs.

[lil_cb_05]

Offense is making too many mistakes! We still have some things to work on!

They're just trying to keep the score low so they can play the whole game.

[NSMustangProud]

Same thing I said.

I'm proud of Tillman....he's improved and I've noticed great improvement just in the last two games. I feel bad for what I was feeling at the beginning of the year.

[NSMustangProud]

Okay, now that it's halftime and I'm seeing the stands I'm feeling guilty.....we've never had no fans in the stands like we have tonight.......not good!

[dada]

Okay, now that it's halftime and I'm seeing the stands I'm feeling guilty.....we've never had no fans in the stands like we have tonight.......not good!

Thursday night.....on TV.....Baytown Lee 2 wins.....small crowd expected.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

If Tillman is truly becoming a complete dual threat, NS's offense could become scary good. And it still wont be as good as its' defense! :D

If only they don't choke it all away!

[lil_cb_05]

:D @ that pass.

[NSMustangProud]

Thursday night.....on TV.....Baytown Lee 2 wins.....small crowd expected.

That is still unlike our fans and even I'm guilty tonight!

[lil_cb_05]

Nice td pass by Lee. Trust me, if this game would of been against a team with a better record (no offense to baytown lee) the community would of been there in full effect.

[82 5A State Champs]

Geez.....NS is gonna kill us next week!:(

[NSMustangProud]

Geez.....NS is gonna kill us next week!:(

I don't know...the commentators sure were talking about how dangerous ya'll will be!

[NSmustang98]

Geez.....NS is gonna kill us next week!:(

Our defense is going to be tough, offense needs to get it together and cut back on the turnovers.

[82 5A State Champs]

Our defense is going to be tough, offense needs to get it together and cut back on the turnovers.

If we get all our offensive weapons back and playing healthy, we should give ya'll a good game. I still think NS is a 12 point favorite!

[DaSho03Champs]

wow....what a boring game!!! Baytown Lee's program is nowhere near where it was the last time they were in our district. I guess the days of "QB High" are over for the Ganders. what i saw from the get-go was a team that tried to run clock and shorten the game...meaning they really felt as if they had no shot so why not just chew up as much as time as possible.

our crowd was pathetic and my friends and i contributed to that by staying at home, but were glad we did on this one. we had two tv's going tonite....the NS game and the Rockets game (and so happy to say that the good guys were victorious in both).

def looking forward to the West Brook game next week!

[panamamyers]

No doubt Lee doesn't have an offense to speak of this year.

I tried to warn everyone....
I don't just mean the offense is down for Lee's standards. I mean the offense has got to be about the worst in the state.

The game went about as I expected.
As much as I like to talk noise, Lee just doesn't have an offense this year. It would have had to have been a perfect game for Lee to have a chance and that went out the window with the punt returns for td's and particularly the snap over the qb's head lol
That was a back breaker when Lee was trying to make a game of it early. Lee just doesn't have an offense capable of coming back from a shot to the foot like that.

[DaSho03Champs]

I need to point something out. Don't judge NS by what they did with Sterling and Channelview. Anyone that was at that game can tell you... All of the starters were out of the game by midway through the 3rd quarter. If Aymond wouldn't have pulled off the dogs, both of those games would have been a lot higher scoreing. :eek:

My guess?

NS - 49
Lee - 7


nice call...only one point off!!!

[DaSho03Champs]

ive been waiting all week for this so here it goes:

It's that time...time for North Shore to lose their first district game since the last time Lee broke out the whoopin stick on them.

first off, yes you did beat us...but whooping stick? then what would you call the 77-34 game the year after?

I just think that Lee's defense is at least comparable to NS's defense, which will keep Lee in the game.

you still feel this way after watching the game?

Lee is a lot faster than North Shore

what about this one?

It won't be a high scoring affair like two years ago.

well...at least u got one 1/2 correct.

thanks for playing though. see you next year at our house!

[ruffshod]

Okay, now that it's halftime and I'm seeing the stands I'm feeling guilty.....we've never had no fans in the stands like we have tonight.......not good!

traffic was horrendous from construction at the river. Alot of people didn't make it 'til halftime or so. Plus, the game was on tv. Lee's crowd was even more pathetic. Also, maybe many fans din't realize the game was on Thursday. alot of factors to consider.

[ruffshod]

No doubt Lee doesn't have an offense to speak of this year.

I tried to warn everyone....
The game went about as I expected.

I thought you said Lee's defense and team speed would keep it close.:eek::eek:

[DaSho03Champs]

I thought you said Lee's defense and team speed would keep it close.:eek::eek:

he said a lot of things that didnt come to fruition. let's just be glad that he's not a weatherman.

[NSMustangProud]

Baytown really surprised me when I began working in GCCISD. I travel the district and pretty much hit all the schools as a specialist.

I thought they were a big football town and would have lots of spirit within the community.

I live in LaPorte and we aren't good in football, but the community is awesome as far as football goes. There is a banner that hangs on Spencer that says Welcome to Bulldog country and all the businesses support a player and have lots of things painted on their business.

LP also packs a good crowd on Friday night. I assumed Baytown would be like this as well, but it was not. They do get pepped up for the Lee/Sterling rival, but I've not witnessed anymore than that.

I will admit I have enjoyed working in GCCISD and our pay and benefits are much much better than GPISD, but I do miss home now and then!

[NSMustangProud]

Ok NS faithful, lets give Panama a break.....he's just someone that supports his team!


I hope our offense gets to clickin' a little more or we might be on the losing side quicker than we want to be.....I sure don't want another Judson experience like last year!

[ruffshod]

Proud....
What is the breakdown of kids that Lee and Sterling lost to Memorial.

[NSMustangProud]

Proud....
What is the breakdown of kids that Lee and Sterling lost to Memorial.

You know I am not sure, but I am going to ask admin and find out. Memorial is not one of my campuses...just Lee and Sterling. I do know the new campus is absolutely gorgeous and the district is proud of it, but haven't learned that much about it. I'll find out though.

[panamamyers]

lol

You don't have to give me any breaks. Pile on as much as you like.
I would be talking mucho trash if Lee had somehow pulled off the miracle and won.

I simply stated that Lee had as much team speed as North Shore, which they do.

Just so happens that North Shore's fast guys are a lot bigger and stronger than Lee's.

It's pretty evident from the tone of my posts in the past few days that I thought it would take a miracle when I was really pressed to give my honest opinion.

The wheels came off early. Lee never had a chance after the snap over the qb's head that changed it from a possible tie game to down 14-0 5 minutes into the game. The game was as good as over at that point.

Most of the kids that went to Memorial are from Sterling, but then they probably pulled a few from Lee and sent them to Sterling now. I can't imagine too many that were going to Lee are now going to Memorial, simply because of the distance factor.

You're right. Lee doesn't get excited much about losing football teams. If you were there in the third round of the playoffs against Alief Hastings in 1997, then you can see what Baytown brings to the table when they have a winner. Lee filled up our side of Tully stadium and half of Hastings' side too. Just like my Houston area teams, they are mostly fair weathered fans though.

That's ok. I'll be there 0-10 or 16-0. UI only wonder how many of these NS fa ns were so strong about their support back in the 80's when they weren't doing as well. Give me some sttendance figures from that era, then we can talk.

[t00 playa]

lol

You don't have to give me any breaks. Pile on as much as you like.
I would be talking mucho trash if Lee had somehow pulled off the miracle and won.

I simply stated that Lee had as much team speed as North Shore, which they do.

Just so happens that North Shore's fast guys are a lot bigger and stronger than Lee's.

It's pretty evident from the tone of my posts in the past few days that I thought it would take a miracle when I was really pressed to give my honest opinion.

The wheels came off early. Lee never had a chance after the snap over the qb's head that changed it from a possible tie game to down 14-0 5 minutes into the game. The game was as good as over at that point.

Most of the kids that went to Memorial are from Sterling, but then they probably pulled a few from Lee and sent them to Sterling now. I can't imagine too many that were going to Lee are now going to Memorial, simply because of the distance factor.

You're right. Lee doesn't get excited much about losing football teams. If you were there in the third round of the playoffs against Alief Hastings in 1997, then you can see what Baytown brings to the table when they have a winner. Lee filled up our side of Tully stadium and half of Hastings' side too. Just like my Houston area teams, they are mostly fair weathered fans though.

That's ok. I'll be there 0-10 or 16-0. UI only wonder how many of these NS fa ns were so strong about their support back in the 80's when they weren't doing as well. Give me some sttendance figures from that era, then we can talk.



wow.... "well you are doing well....but what about the 80's?"

again...wow..i though you were better than that........ yes lee has team speed...but as you can tell... NS has some too.... :eek:

[t00 playa]

and btw... NS was 3yds short of 400 yards of offense last night....and we arent even that good on offense...... it was surprising since you said we would not be able to move the ball up and down the field with ease.....:eek:

[t00 playa]

Its all good panama... you support your team and with good reason..... :eek:

[nsmustang]

No doubt Lee doesn't have an offense to speak of this year.

I tried to warn everyone....
I don't just mean the offense is down for Lee's standards. I mean the offense has got to be about the worst in the state.

The game went about as I expected.
As much as I like to talk noise, Lee just doesn't have an offense this year. It would have had to have been a perfect game for Lee to have a chance and that went out the window with the punt returns for td's and particularly the snap over the qb's head lol
That was a back breaker when Lee was trying to make a game of it early. Lee just doesn't have an offense capable of coming back from a shot to the foot like that.

I was at the game and you were right about one thing. I thought Lee had some speed to be reckoned with. Yes, we had the power and the defense was smothering but there were some glimpses from Lee showing that if they had some missing pieces filled in they would have made it a game. Anyone that can catch one of our receivers or D. Jones from behind in the open field has done something. The kickoff return for 70-80 yards shows the speed potential. I'm happy with the win no doubt, but I think NS's offense needs to dominate like its defense. We drove 95 yards and came away with a field goal at one point (not griping! Just making an observation). NS special teams was awesome. The defense can smell the ball and the end zone and they are going for it. Like TGO says, they are the most physical defense in the area and will bring it to you. Tillman is getting better each game. He has a superb arm and a very fast release. District showdown next week.

[panamamyers]

Cmon too playa
I'm not trying to down NS or anything like that.
Trust me when I say I will be rooting for them to win every single game from here on out and win state.
I always pull for North Shore, because of their proximity to Baytown, except when they are playing Lee.

Having said that, something was said about Baytown's lack of fan support, so I was simply asking how many showed up at NS games in the 80's when they were not very good.

It's easy to show up for a #2 ranked team that is in the state title hunt year after year. Honestly, I thought the NS turnout was quite low at the game last night from what I could see on tv.

And about Lee's speed and defense. North Shore was able to control the second half, when the game was all over but the crying.

As for the first half, NS was up 24-0. 21 of those 24 points came basically on 2 punt returns for td and a fumble return that setup NS at the 8 yard line. If you watched the first half of that game, it's pretty safe to say that Lee's defense didn't get the opportunity to even try and stop NS. Whether they could have stopped them is a question all to itself. The game was sloppy in the second half. Lee knew the game was over, and you could see the lack of effort.

I don't think NS should have any trouble at all with West Brook.
West Brook and Lee were on a pretty level playing field. NS was 4 or 5 levels above where Lee was last night.

[t00 playa]

Cmon too playa
I'm not trying to down NS or anything like that.
Trust me when I say I will be rooting for them to win every single game from here on out and win state.
I always pull for North Shore, because of their proximity to Baytown, except when they are playing Lee.

Having said that, something was said about Baytown's lack of fan support, so I was simply asking how many showed up at NS games in the 80's when they were not very good.

It's easy to show up for a #2 ranked team that is in the state title hunt year after year. Honestly, I thought the NS turnout was quite low at the game last night from what I could see on tv.

And about Lee's speed and defense. North Shore was able to control the second half, when the game was all over but the crying.

As for the first half, NS was up 24-0. 21 of those 24 points came basically on 2 punt returns for td and a fumble return that setup NS at the 8 yard line. If you watched the first half of that game, it's pretty safe to say that Lee's defense didn't get the opportunity to even try and stop NS. Whether they could have stopped them is a question all to itself. The game was sloppy in the second half. Lee knew the game was over, and you could see the lack of effort.

I don't think NS should have any trouble at all with West Brook.
West Brook and Lee were on a pretty level playing field. NS was 4 or 5 levels above where Lee was last night.


panama..

im just giving you a hard time.... thats all...... you were right...that lee offense is horrid.....i was surprised...and like mustang said...there were glimpses of how good lee can be.......but all in all... good luck the rest of the way...:eek:

[North Shore Mustang]

traffic was horrendous from construction at the river. Alot of people didn't make it 'til halftime or so. Plus, the game was on tv. Lee's crowd was even more pathetic. Also, maybe many fans din't realize the game was on Thursday. alot of factors to consider.

Yeah, I agree with Ruffshod. It was a Thursday night, traffic was terrible, the game is on TV, why not stay home and watch an NS game from your couch?

I like this team. Hopefully we'll take it all the way.

Go Mustangs!

[Statman/NS]

TV or no TV that was embarrassing crowd (lack of)!!!!!!!!!!!! There are communities across the state that would kill to have the number #2 team in the state...Now the entire viewing area can say noone in North Shore cares about football. I understand about traffic and stuff but to me that is just excuses....It is called DVR or record and watch it after you go and support the team!! Sorry but just had to vent and get that off my chest..........

[lil_cb_05]

TV or no TV that was embarrassing crowd (lack of)!!!!!!!!!!!! There are communities across the state that would kill to have the number #2 team in the state...Now the entire viewing area can say noone in North Shore cares about football. I understand about traffic and stuff but to me that is just excuses....It is called DVR or record and watch it after you go and support the team!! Sorry but just had to vent and get that off my chest..........

The crowd was embarrassing but I bet the tv ratings from our area weren't.