division one or two?

[mdfootball]

what determines what division playoffs a team goes to??

[JagFan]

what determines what division playoffs a team goes to??

Enrollment. The two highest in enrollment go Div. 1 and the two with lesser enrollment go Div. 2

[AHSeagles]

Enrollment. The two highest in enrollment go Div. 1 and the two with lesser enrollment go Div. 2

Hit the nail on the head.

[Fleeman93]

Not based on team colors?


:confused:

[odessapermian.com]

Not based on team colors?


:confused:


It's based on gross sales of booster club merchandise.

[Kt`86]

Not based on team colors?


:confused:


You are soooooo bad!:p:D

[mdfootball]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting

[ruffshod]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting

Could be. Depends on who makes the playoffs.

[twcpfan1]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting


Not a factor. The 2 most dominant programs in recent times both have smallish enrolment numbers. (slc and katy)

[hollywood]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting

Yeah, but SGP could end up playing Plano East instead of Plano or Allen.

Irving really wants to play Plano.

[ftballin11]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting


UIL does it to make money, Everyone hates it because it leaves an argument between two teams as to who is the real champ. Alot of arguments to which can be avoided.

It should just be 2 teams make the playoffs with 1 division, Like it use to be.

[CCHS77]

UIL does it to make money, Everyone hates it because it leaves an argument between two teams as to who is the real champ. Alot of arguments to which can be avoided.

It should just be 2 teams make the playoffs with 1 division, Like it use to be.

Didn't "it use to be" only one playoff team per district?

[AbEagleFan]

Didn't "it use to be" only one playoff team per district?

Yep, those were the good ole days....:(

[ftballin11]

Didn't "it use to be" only one playoff team per district?

I think in the 80's it was 2, but im not old enough to go back even farther, Not that old

[caesarscott]

Yep, those were the good ole days....:(like the 40 years when Abilene didnt make the playoffs? :D

[DragonBand06]

It's based on gross sales of booster club merchandise.If it were that, SLC would be D1 every year! :D

[DrEdward]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting

Yes, it is indeed possible and has happened. Since the assignment to go D-I vs D-II is made by district according to size, it is readily possible for very large schools to end up in D-II and relatively small schools to end up in D-I. It has also been the case that the small school (D-II) state champion has had a larger enrollment that the big school (D-I) state champion.

[Bass]

I'd hate to have one team per district in the playoffs. I know you'd only get the best teams advancing, but there would be a lot of great teams left at home that could help to really stack the competition. Plus, it's a lot of fun to follow so many teams and match ups through the postseason.

[AbEagleFan]

like the 40 years when Abilene didnt make the playoffs? :D

Yep... Could care less if a 4th place team ends up winning state, bring back the ole 64 team pool.

[mojotrain]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting

Not one of the smallest but a school with 2000 could play a team with 4,500 students. We didn't invent it but must abide by it. Fact is it would not be considered a shock for a team made up from a student body of 2000 to kick the lungs in on a team made up from a student body of 4,500. It's proven.

[mojotrain]

If it were that, SLC would be D1 every year! :D
I'm thinking no, and not close.

[mojotrain]

Yes, it is indeed possible and has happened. Since the assignment to go D-! vs D-II is made by district according to size, it is readily possible for very large schools to end up in D-!! and relatively small schools to end up in D-I. It has also been the case that the small school (D-II) state champion has had a larger enrollment that the big school (D-I) state champion.

Is MD talking about Plano perhaps playing someone the size of Ft Davis or Plano playing someone the size of Lubbock High?

[mojotrain]

Yep... Could care less if a 4th place team ends up winning state, bring back the ole 64 team pool.
How about 32?

[Magellan]

If I may play devils advocate, that means potentially one of the biggest schools in the state could play one of the smallest. If all three plano schools make it, one of them would go d2. Interesting

That's one of the reasons a lot of people are for either creating a "6A", even if just for football... or redistricting for football to prevent another instance like 2006 when the Division II state finalists were larger than the Division I finalists.

[Magellan]

Yep... Could care less if a 4th place team ends up winning state, bring back the ole 64 team pool.

When did we have a 64-team pool? The UIL added the 3rd playoff team when the two divisions were created. In basketball and other sports, in 1990 when the split happened in football, the UIL started giving the district champ a bye in the 1st round.

[sgp3]

Well that was when it was less schools and less football players to around:D
Didn't "it use to be" only one playoff team per district?

[AbEagleFan]

When did we have a 64-team pool? The UIL added the 3rd playoff team when the two divisions were created. In basketball and other sports, in 1990 when the split happened in football, the UIL started giving the district champ a bye in the 1st round.

My bad, I meant to say 32 (thanks Mojo).

Took the district champ and that was it. Five post season games including the final.

[ExCOOG88]

Hey if that was the case then the mighty eagles would have watched from home last year.

[AbEagleFan]

Hey if that was the case then the mighty eagles would have watched from home last year.

Fine with me, I come from old school.

[Shamu85]

Hey if that was the case then the mighty eagles would have watched from home last year.

No matter whether you have 1 team or 4 teams in the playoffs, there will always be "better" teams that don't make the playoffs. With 4 teams making it, you have a lot of teams that don't deserve the playoffs.

I guess I am "Old School", too, since I don't see it as a positive that more kids get to participate in the playoffs. What's the big deal of making the playoffs when there are 4 or 5 3-7 teams there, too. Seems to me like it would mean more if you make the playoffs when it is more exclusive. I am good with 2 teams making it. There are a lot of us on this board who played sports in high school when only 1 or 2 teams made the playoffs, and plenty of us didn't get to participate in a post season game. Pretty sure that it didn't "scar" us emotionally or mentally.

[the_phoenix612]

Yes, it is indeed possible and has happened. Since the assignment to go D-I vs D-II is made by district according to size, it is readily possible for very large schools to end up in D-II and relatively small schools to end up in D-I. It has also been the case that the small school (D-II) state champion has had a larger enrollment that the big school (D-I) state champion.

didn't that happen the year SLC won division 1?

[mojotrain]

Well that was when it was less schools and less football players to around:D

Nope, always 32 districts w/6 to 8 0r 9 teams in each district.

[Favpack]

One team per district has to be purple.

[KT2000]

didn't that happen the year SLC won division 1?

I don't remember the exact numbers, but it would have been close with Cedar Hill. I think both schools had right about the same number (around 2400, give or take 100).

[rownorserow]

The Div. I champ should play the Div. II champ for the REAL state championship. Either that or go to 10-A districting.

[Jayhawker]

Didn't "it use to be" only one playoff team per district?

..it used to be that there were alot less schools in Texas as well.

[slcdragonfan]

I'd hate to have one team per district in the playoffs. I know you'd only get the best teams advancing, but there would be a lot of great teams left at home that could help to really stack the competition. Plus, it's a lot of fun to follow so many teams and match ups through the postseason.

+1

[Favpack]

..it used to be that there were alot less schools in Texas as well.

Houston Yates used to be a dominant "big" school - long ago. There was hardly such thing as a valley school, on and on.

[saMavsFan]

That's one of the reasons a lot of people are for either creating a "6A", even if just for football... or redistricting for football to prevent another instance like 2006 when the Division II state finalists were larger than the Division I finalists.

I get it and all, this seems silly. But what's the big deal? When I saw this, I kinda went "imagine that." Was anyone out there truly offended by the oddity of it. Now you could make a case that the DII champ had an advantage over all the other teams, but I've seen countless examples of teams performing above their enrollment expectations. Can't think of any at the moment, but they're there, I just know it.:D

[mojotrain]

Hey if that was the case then the mighty eagles would have watched from home last year.
Its easy for Mojo fans to remember one team per district going to the playoff. Heres why.

1961- Permian@ 9-1 lost one district game to San Angelo and stayed home.

1966- Permian @ 7-2-1 A tie with the Eagles and a loss to Cooper kept Permian at home.

1967- Permian @ 9-1 a loss to Cooper kept Permian at home.

1969- Permian @ 8-1-1 a loss to Cooper kept Permian at home.

1971- Permian @ 9-1 a loss to Cooper kept Permian at Home.

1979- Permian @ 8-2 but 6-1 in district a loss to Cooper kept them at home.

See why we consider Abilene a pain in the neck?

[mojotrain]

..it used to be that there were alot less schools in Texas as well.

There were a lot less schools but not less large class schools, again in the 60s there were 32 big class districts and each district had 6 to 9 teams. Same as now.
Complicated but someone else can explain the way new schools were absorbed.

People! A four team playoff system WAS NOT devised to accommodate more schools.

[ExCOOG88]

There were a lot less schools but not less large class schools, again in the 60s there were 32 big class districts and each district had 6 to 9 teams. Same as now.
Complicated but someone else can explain the way new schools were absorbed.

People! A four team playoff system WAS NOT devised to accommodate more schools.

You are right, it was done to generate revenue.

[ExCOOG88]

They can keep the relative size on the classifications/districts the same by raising the number of student you needed to be in that classification. Back when I was coaching 5A was 1800 or bigger, now it is up to 2100 i believe.

[caesarscott]

Its easy for Mojo fans to remember one team per district going to the playoff. Heres why.

1961- Permian@ 9-1 lost one district game to San Angelo and stayed home.

1966- Permian @ 7-2-1 A tie with the Eagles and a loss to Cooper kept Permian at home.

1967- Permian @ 9-1 a loss to Cooper kept Permian at home.

1969- Permian @ 8-1-1 a loss to Cooper kept Permian at home.

1971- Permian @ 9-1 a loss to Cooper kept Permian at Home.

1979- Permian @ 8-2 but 6-1 in district a loss to Cooper kept them at home.

See why we consider Abilene a pain in the neck?
the Reagan Raiders had the same problem. Won state in 1967, 1968. Went 9-1 with no playoffs in 1969, Won state in 1970.

[AbEagleFan]

here here!!

The Div. I champ should play the Div. II champ for the REAL state championship. Either that or go to 10-A districting.