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hollywood
10-21-2008, 01:14 AM
http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/football/stories/102108dnspowixon.3c75f82.html

This may have come up on one of the other threads but it was posted on HSGametime at 10:47 PM Monday.

I did not see the Allen - Plano Game this past week, but was able to attend the earlier Allen - Trinity game. I was of course impressed by Trinity. I think they have only gotten better from last year. I thought Allen gave a good showing. I was impressed as many of the Trinity posters were by Matt Brown the Allen QB. For some reason, after that loss, there were some Allen posters who were all but throwing Matt under the bus. If I am wrong please set me straight on that. It sure felt that way anyway. I can only deduce that Matt Brown is now driving the bus and not under it.

TheScout
10-21-2008, 03:50 AM
I have all the respect in the world for Allen, but just as his team has improved, so has Trinity. I never felt watching the Allen Trinity game, that Trinity would lose. they were in a hostile environment and just ran out the clock. Now, I always root for Allen, but if they play again it will be at Texas stadium....not Allen. Trinity lives for big games and would cut loose the offense that they refuse to use until the playoffs. Sure Allen has a chance, just like any other team in Texas.....but my money is on Trinity, especially at Trinity's second home away from home.

stinger
10-21-2008, 07:13 AM
I have all the respect in the world for Allen, but just as his team has improved, so has Trinity. I never felt watching the Allen Trinity game, that Trinity would lose. they were in a hostile environment and just ran out the clock. Now, I always root for Allen, but if they play again it will be at Texas stadium....not Allen. Trinity lives for big games and would cut loose the offense that they refuse to use until the playoffs. Sure Allen has a chance, just like any other team in Texas.....but my money is on Trinity, especially at Trinity's second home away from home.

You brought up a good point when you say "cut loose the offense that is being saved for the playoffs". Lineweaver has so much talent in reserve that he has been giving playing time to during the regular season. This will pay off in spades during the playoffs. ;)

trojan25
10-21-2008, 08:05 AM
I think this is a case of a sportswriter trying to drum something up. Look at the quote:

"Against Trinity, if we had shown this much heart and this much fight, I think the result would've been different."

That's really a lot different than saying, "Allen can beat Trinity."

The kid is obviously confident, and he should be, but this is nothing more than an attempt to sell newspapers. Besides, it probably can't happen until the regional finals anyway, and a lot of football has to be played between now and then.

trojanbacker
10-21-2008, 08:06 AM
I sure don't have a problem with anything Matt Brown said. He's the QB of a great team that just walloped the state's #2 team. Who'd want their team leader to say "Gee, I sure hope we don't run into Trinity in the playoffs."

I think it would be a heck of a game but Trinity has a lot of business to take care of before that matchup would happen. First up, Grapevine.

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 08:37 AM
I think this is a case of a sportswriter trying to drum something up. Look at the quote:

"Against Trinity, if we had shown this much heart and this much fight, I think the result would've been different."

That's really a lot different than saying, "Allen can beat Trinity."

The kid is obviously confident, and he should be, but this is nothing more than an attempt to sell newspapers. Besides, it probably can't happen until the regional finals anyway, and a lot of football has to be played between now and then.

Agreed, remember this quote came right after an emotional win over Plano. Players don't always say the same things after emotional wins (or losses) than what they normally would. At that point, Brown was on cloud nine.

And having been at the game myself, I have to agree, had they played that well against Trinity they very well might have won. I shall take this opportunity to apologize to Allen fans. Earlier in the year I stated I wasn't impressed. I retract that after watching the Plano game.

Allen looked a lot bigger than I remembered when I saw them against Trinity. Probably because everyone looks smaller when they play the Trojans. I've seen both teams a couple of times now and at the moment, I'd have to say Allen is playing better ball.

To an earlier poster's point, I know Lineweaver is pretty vanilla in the regular season. My guess is he's got some things in the works that he's waiting til the playoffs to unveil. Hopefully these 2 do meet again, the Allen team I saw last Friday was the best I've ever seen. If they continue to play like that, they're a legit contender.

TrojanHorse03
10-21-2008, 09:00 AM
Who cares, Trinity's not gonna fall into that trap. Trinity can't worry about other teams that aren't their opponent for the week like other teams seem to, that's the key. Trinity is only concerned about getting stronger with each week, and if they do that this...issue will take care of itself.

EaglePower
10-21-2008, 09:05 AM
I agree with an above poster, this makes for good newspaper sales. Just gossip fodder, nothing else.:notworthy

dragonpants
10-21-2008, 09:11 AM
Be careful what you wish for.

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 09:27 AM
Brown's a good kid and had a right to feel like they could beat anybody at that moment - maybe even the Cowgirls:D

TrojanHorse03
10-21-2008, 09:37 AM
Brown's a good kid and had a right to feel like they could beat anybody at that moment - maybe even the Cowgirls:D

I don't think playing Plano is the same as playing Trinity http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/CedarHillDad/iono.gif but Grapevine is the next opponent.

tjw
10-21-2008, 10:01 AM
I agree that this was about selling papers and said after whooping up on Plano nothing more.:rolleyes:

I do think Allen could have beat any team the way they played Friday night, Trinity or even possibly the cowgirls like someone said.:D

All coaches hold back some during the regular season, both Lineweaver & Westerberg.;)

Tired of the line <fill in the school name> Texas stadium is their home away from home. Every team that wins there says that corny line.:rolleyes:

Look forward to the possibility of a rematch with Trinity, which until (or big if)Allen beats them Trinity is the clear favorite. Also, like the fact that maybe we woke-up Plano and maybe they will knock off Trinity first for a rematch. Anythings possible we'll just have to see what happens.

T's UP 93
10-21-2008, 10:03 AM
Grapevine is our only worry for the present week!! To everyone else BRANG IT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR CHANCE AT THE HAKAAAAAAA!!

da hawaiian
10-21-2008, 10:05 AM
Matt Brown is a dangerous runner. It's tough to blitz him because you risk him running out of the pocket if you do and he's dangerous when he runs. One defensive player would have to account for him almost every play is my guess. You'd have to generate a serious pass rush from your 3 lineman (which is tough against that subperb Oline). The Dline must achieve superiority - or it's gamble time with blitz schemes that leave your coverage more exposed. The key for Trinity will be to continue expanding depth along the Dline and in the secondary.

Maxthedog
10-21-2008, 10:28 AM
Agreed, remember this quote came right after an emotional win over Plano. Players don't always say the same things after emotional wins (or losses) than what they normally would. At that point, Brown was on cloud nine.

And having been at the game myself, I have to agree, had they played that well against Trinity they very well might have won. I shall take this opportunity to apologize to Allen fans. Earlier in the year I stated I wasn't impressed. I retract that after watching the Plano game.

Allen looked a lot bigger than I remembered when I saw them against Trinity. Probably because everyone looks smaller when they play the Trojans. I've seen both teams a couple of times now and at the moment, I'd have to say Allen is playing better ball.

To an earlier poster's point, I know Lineweaver is pretty vanilla in the regular season. My guess is he's got some things in the works that he's waiting til the playoffs to unveil. Hopefully these 2 do meet again, the Allen team I saw last Friday was the best I've ever seen. If they continue to play like that, they're a legit contender.

I agree with you GE. I was impressed with the game Allen put together vs Plano. 2 things, Plano's D is not anywhere as good as Trinity's and I think Allen will go D2(West and Plano-D1). If Allen keeps this up, they will be a force for sure.

tjw
10-21-2008, 10:43 AM
I agree with you GE. I was impressed with the game Allen put together vs Plano. 2 things, Plano's D is not anywhere as good as Trinity's and I think Allen will go D2(West and Plano-D1). If Allen keeps this up, they will be a force for sure.

Think you need to check out the standings link here:
District 8 Overall District Scoring
Team W L W L PPG PAPG
Allen (3) 6 1 3 0 35.6 12.7
Plano (2) 7 1 3 1 38.4 26.5
Wylie (5) 7 1 3 1 41.5 20.4
Plano West (4) 4 4 2 2 29.3 30.3

The numbers in ( ) is the school size in the district...this says Allen & Plano DI and Wylie & West DII. If you still don't believe this look at http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_pl...ections_08.htm it has this too. ;)

TrojanHorse03
10-21-2008, 10:55 AM
Tired of the line Texas stadium is their home away from home. Every team that wins there says that corny line.:rolleyes:


Who said that, Trinity hasn't been talking about Allen.

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 10:57 AM
I agree with you GE. I was impressed with the game Allen put together vs Plano. 2 things, Plano's D is not anywhere as good as Trinity's and I think Allen will go D2(West and Plano-D1). If Allen keeps this up, they will be a force for sure.

Allen was a couple of steps faster than Plano all night long and really dictated the tempo from beginning to end. Yes the Plano defense is pretty average but that doesn't take away from the high level that the Eagles played at.

Even Trinity's defense would have had a lot of trouble with Allen the way they performed last Friday night. #89 was playing out of his mind! He made some unbelievable catches in tight coverage.

I have no problem with Brown doin a little chest thumping after that win. He took some heat for the way he played against Trinity so turn about is fair play. Regardless of the opponent Allen put together the best 4 quarters of any team I've seen this season, they're the real deal!

Clark
10-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Be careful what you wish for.
Normally good advice, but ..... you can't lay claim to being the best unless you beat the best, and right now that is Trinity. I'm pulling for the Eagles to win it all, but I want them to do it by beating the best, not hoping for someone else to upset Trinity along the way, but to actually outscore the Trojans on the field. Here's to hoping the Trojans don't become the Dragons of past years, eliminating us every year....

tjw
10-21-2008, 11:15 AM
Who said that, Trinity hasn't been talking about Allen.

No one said anything...I was just saying I'm tired of that line "especially at Trinity's second home away from home." posted earlier by TheScout. That's all.

da hawaiian
10-21-2008, 11:33 AM
I agree with you GE. I was impressed with the game Allen put together vs Plano. 2 things, Plano's D is not anywhere as good as Trinity's and I think Allen will go D2(West and Plano-D1). If Allen keeps this up, they will be a force for sure.

I wish they were DII also but alas, Plano West is 4th largest and Allen 3rd. Plano East is largest in that district and we all know where they're going when PO's start

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 11:36 AM
Allen will have another first round exit when they meet up with South Grand Prairie.

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 11:48 AM
I understood what you're saying and yes it is annoying - a lot of teams can lay claim to Texas Stadium being home away from home. If these 2 should meet, its a neutral field. I wouldn't see either team having a "home field" advantage.

TheScout
10-21-2008, 11:53 AM
I agree that this was about selling papers and said after whooping up on Plano nothing more.:rolleyes:

I do think Allen could have beat any team the way they played Friday night, Trinity or even possibly the cowgirls like someone said.:D

All coaches hold back some during the regular season, both Lineweaver & Westerberg.;)

Tired of the line <fill in="" the="" school="" name=""> Texas stadium is their home away from home. Every team that wins there says that corny line.:rolleyes:

Look forward to the possibility of a rematch with Trinity, which until (or big if)Allen beats them Trinity is the clear favorite. Also, like the fact that maybe we woke-up Plano and maybe they will knock off Trinity first for a rematch. Anythings possible we'll just have to see what happens.

Dude grow up. How many games has Allen won there in the last couple of years. Well since just last year and including this year, Trinity has already won there 4 times. There is a chance that if Trinity plays into the final four, they will play more at Texas Stadium this year than at Pennington Field(Their own field). When I say home away from home....I mean it.
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TheScout
10-21-2008, 11:56 AM
Allen was a couple of steps faster than Plano all night long and really dictated the tempo from beginning to end. Yes the Plano defense is pretty average but that doesn't take away from the high level that the Eagles played at.

Even Trinity's defense would have had a lot of trouble with Allen the way they performed last Friday night. #89 was playing out of his mind! He made some unbelievable catches in tight coverage.

I have no problem with Brown doin a little chest thumping after that win. He took some heat for the way he played against Trinity so turn about is fair play. Regardless of the opponent Allen put together the best 4 quarters of any team I've seen this season, they're the real deal!

Don't you think Trinity kept Allen from playing out of their mind?:rolleyes:

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 12:06 PM
Props to Trinity for winning in one of the most hostile environments in Texas but Allen has shown there is life after losing to the Trojans. Both teams have improved since that time, IMHO Allen has closed the gap a little bit.

Injuries would be the X factor between these teams. Trinity's been without 2 of their better players on defense the last couple of weeks. Allen's top receiver hasn't been 100% all year.

Tray Robinson hasn't regained the form he had last year as of yet either. I'd love to see a rematch of this game.

TheScout
10-21-2008, 12:17 PM
Agreed. But IMO the best rb on Trinity isn't Trey Robinson. So that doesn't even matter.

1. Damien Hart #25 (Barry Sanders)
2. Trey Robinson #29 (Clinton Portis)
3. Tevin Williams #7 (Felix Jones)

KT2000
10-21-2008, 12:19 PM
Tray Robinson hasn't regained the form he had last year as of yet either. I'd love to see a rematch of this game.

I'd bet much of that is due to Trinity really spreading the wealth this year. It looks like they've used a number of ball carriers so far, and couple that with McGhee's ability to hit multiple receivers this season. From what I've seen, Trinity's rotated a lot of bodies in an effort to stay fresh and build depth.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 12:20 PM
If I was playing Allen, I would want to play them at Texas stadium for two reasons:

1. They have a bad history there.

2. There band isn't a factor there.


Allen wants to play in a site other than Texas stadium. I would make them flip a coin on it.

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 12:23 PM
I would go:

Williams
Hart
Robinson

What I like about Trinity is the 3 headed monster. Each back is capable of being the feature guy. If one goes down, there are still 2 left. This is important when you're trying to make a long playoff run. When Shannon Moore went down in 2006, Trinity still had Robinson and Justiss Campbell to split the load. The Trojans still almost beat Carroll w/o their leading rusher.

You can't have too much depth come playoff time. This is also why I don't see Plano being a legit contender. As great as Burkhead is, they're too dependent on him.

THSBandDad
10-21-2008, 12:23 PM
Agreed. But IMO the best rb on Trinity isn't Trey Robinson. So that doesn't even matter.

1. Damien Hart #25
2. Trey Robinson #29
3. Tevin Williams #7

That 1-2-3 could be posted in any order and you might not get an argument. I really like Williams and when you see that he's a Soph, that's even better. I heard he wasn't feeling well and that's why we didn't see him against Central.

Robinson still shows lots of power, but I think he's the slowest of the bunch. Making him this up back with either of the other two behind him is pretty awsome.

And who was that kid that played against Central late in the game? He seemed to run pretty well himself.

The Great Evaluator
10-21-2008, 12:25 PM
I'd bet much of that is due to Trinity really spreading the wealth this year. It looks like they've used a number of ball carriers so far, and couple that with McGhee's ability to hit multiple receivers this season. From what I've seen, Trinity's rotated a lot of bodies in an effort to stay fresh and build depth.

That's correct and an astute observation, but at the same time he just doesn't look right. It's always a red flag to me when a running back is wearing a lineman's kneebrace. It's a shame because I thought he was poised to have a big season but I don't think he ever fully recovered from the injury he sustained in the playoffs last season.

This is exactly why Lineweaver wants depth - he doesn't want to be dependent on one player and neither would I.

TheScout
10-21-2008, 12:26 PM
That 1-2-3 could be posted in any order and you might not get an argument. I really like Williams and when you see that he's a Soph, that's even better. I heard he wasn't feeling well and that's why we didn't see him against Central.

Robinson still shows lots of power, but I think he's the slowest of the bunch. Making him this up back with either of the other two behind him is pretty awsome.

And who was that kid that played against Central late in the game? He seemed to run pretty well himself.

I just love #25. He runs with a lot of "Hart":rolleyes: He never goes down on first contact, and makes cut-backs that make the defense look silly.

tjw
10-21-2008, 12:35 PM
If I was playing Allen, I would want to play them at Texas stadium for two reasons:

1. They have a bad history there.

2. There band isn't a factor there.


Allen wants to play in a site other than Texas stadium. I would make them flip a coin on it.

Apparently you do not know what you're talking about as Allen is about .500 at Texas Stadium.:p

Eagle1986
10-21-2008, 12:46 PM
If I was playing Allen, I would want to play them at Texas stadium for two reasons:

1. They have a bad history there.

2. There band isn't a factor there.


Allen wants to play in a site other than Texas stadium. I would make them flip a coin on it.

Actually the band sounds twice as loud at Texas Stadium, I guess it's the echo in there. All I want is not to play the Breakfast Bowl!:eek:

trojanbacker
10-21-2008, 12:56 PM
"And who was that kid that played against Central late in the game? He seemed to run pretty well himself."

That was #38, Shaquille Edwards....another underclassman we can look forward to seeing.

And speaking of using a lot of depth at running back, KT, Trinity used ten of them against F. Ridge. They're pretty talented and deep at that position this year.....

KT2000
10-21-2008, 01:00 PM
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And speaking of using a lot of depth at running back, KT, Trinity used ten of them against F. Ridge. They're pretty talented and deep at that position this year.....

When did Trinity hire Allen Wilson?

;)

AllenEagle06
10-21-2008, 01:01 PM
If I was playing Allen, I would want to play them at Texas stadium for two reasons:

1. They have a bad history there.

2. There band isn't a factor there.


Allen wants to play in a site other than Texas stadium. I would make them flip a coin on it.
1. We've won (8) more games there than lost (5) in last 6 years.

2. The sound of Allen's band echoing throughout Texas Stadium gives me chill bumps.

I'm completely fine with playing there.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:02 PM
1. We've won (8) more games there than lost (5) in last 6 years.

2. The sound of Allen's band echoing throughout Texas Stadium gives me chill bumps.

I'm completely fine with playing there.


Westerberg isn't.

AllenEagle06
10-21-2008, 01:06 PM
Westerberg isn't.
Westerberg isn't what?

tjw
10-21-2008, 01:06 PM
Westerberg isn't.

Oh ic, goodolboy is really PWF! thought you were band.:p

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:07 PM
Completely fine with playing at Texas Stadium. He's already made it known that they don't want to play there in the first round.

trojanbacker
10-21-2008, 01:08 PM
The band wasn't a factor in Allen and I doubt that it would be in Texas Stadium. I think Trinity had one illegal procedure in Allen, which is low for them. However, we had three holding penalties which I'm petty sure had nothing to do with the band.

If this game were to happen (big "if" and way premature) and Trinity were to lose, I think the last excuse they would use would be the band or the site.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 01:09 PM
Wow! I can't belive you said that, your where saying Dville was going to be SGP. So are you saying Dville is better then Allen?
Allen will have another first round exit when they meet up with South Grand Prairie.

tjw
10-21-2008, 01:10 PM
The band wasn't a factor in Allen and I doubt that it would be in Texas Stadium. I think Trinity had one illegal procedure in Allen, which is low for them. However, we had three holding penalties which I'm petty sure had nothing to do with the band.

If this game were to happen (big "if" and way premature) and Trinity were to lose, I think the last excuse they would use would be the band or the site.

I agree 100% :)

bigdaddydog
10-21-2008, 01:10 PM
Don't you think Trinity kept Allen from playing out of their mind?:rolleyes:

Havn't you been keeping up with the posts. Westerberg and Lineweaver were both sandbagging during that game.

It's like a slow race. No, after you. Oh, no I couldn't possibly go first, after you. Oh no, no, no I insist, you go first.


Bwaaaaaaa!! :D

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:11 PM
I don't know what you're talking about. But I can say that SGP will give Allen all they want. They have arguably the best defense in the metroplex, if not state. They can shut Allen down.

bigdaddydog
10-21-2008, 01:12 PM
Oh ic, goodolboy is really PWF! thought you were band.:p

Yup he's band for a couple more weeks! :D


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trojanbacker
10-21-2008, 01:13 PM
"When did Trinity hire Allen Wilson?"

Hey, KT, if you're going to emulate someone, why not go after the best, right?

sgp3
10-21-2008, 01:13 PM
Oh really now you say that on this thread:rolleyes: Now go back to the Dville and SGP thread say that.
I don't know what you're talking about. But I can say that SGP will give Allen all they want. They have arguably the best defense in the metroplex, if not state. They can shut Allen down.

AllenEagle06
10-21-2008, 01:13 PM
Completely fine with playing at Texas Stadium. He's already made it known that they don't want to play there in the first round.
Haven't heard him say that but regardless it won't make much of a difference whether we play there or not.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:15 PM
Haven't heard him say that but regardless it won't make much of a difference whether we play there or not.


He has said it. Ask him. Doesn't matter. Just making my opinion. You Allen folks are way too sensitive!

AllenEagle06
10-21-2008, 01:17 PM
He has said it. Ask him. Doesn't matter. Just making my opinion. You Allen folks are way too sensitive!
I'm not sensitive, I'm just trying to see what you're getting at.

tjw
10-21-2008, 01:17 PM
I don't know what you're talking about. But I can say that SGP will give Allen all they want. They have arguably the best defense in the metroplex, if not state. They can shut Allen down.

You could be right but they have to beat DV & Irv Mac to make the playoffs...figure GP is a given.:rolleyes:

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:18 PM
SGP will lose to DV and beat MAC (my opinion).

Either way...what I'm saying is that Westerberg DOES NOT want to play in Texas Stadium.

I would want to play them there.

That's all I'm saying....

tjw
10-21-2008, 01:23 PM
SGP will lose to DV and beat MAC (my opinion).

Either way...what I'm saying is that Westerberg DOES NOT want to play in Texas Stadium.

I would want to play them there.

That's all I'm saying....

Like anyone cares what you're saying.:rolleyes::p

Sure Westerberg DOES NOT mind playing the first round in Texas Stadium as more first round wins there then loses. :D:p

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Like anyone cares what you're saying.:rolleyes::p

Sure Westerberg DOES NOT mind playing the first round in Texas Stadium as more first round wins there then loses. :D:p

Feel free to ask him yourself. I know this to be a fact. You'll see ...

AllenEagle06
10-21-2008, 01:31 PM
Feel free to ask him yourself. I know this to be a fact. You'll see ...
Even if he doesn't want to play there, that doesn't disadvantage Allen in any way. Practice isn't going to be any different the week before Allen plays at Texas Stadium.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Even if he doesn't want to play there, that doesn't disadvantage Allen in any way. Practice isn't going to be any different the week before Allen plays at Texas Stadium.



I agree...it doesn't disadvantage Allen not to want to play at Texas Stadium during the playoffs. That's why I would want to play them there!

Wow....

Bill4par
10-21-2008, 01:36 PM
IF BOTH ALLEN & PLANO CONTINUE ON..(lots of football left to play) Both Allen and Plano will go D1. Allen has a bigger school population than Plano West and as I understand it, the top 2 go into D1?:confused:

allendad
10-21-2008, 01:37 PM
Feel free to ask him yourself. I know this to be a fact. You'll see ...



'ol boy,

If you can just post a link to that quote
then we can ALL "...know this to be a fact."

Otherwise . . . . .
we appreciate your OPINION.

Who cares WHOM or WHERE we play.
I think a playoff game would be a thrill.
I think we'll just worry about the next few games first!:p

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 01:40 PM
I can't reveal my source. You will see when you are privy to the information.

allendad
10-21-2008, 01:42 PM
I can't reveal my source. You will see when you are privy to the information.


And there you go.:rolleyes:

Eagle1986
10-21-2008, 01:43 PM
I can't reveal my source. You will see when you are privy to the information.

Here's your sign......:D

Coach J
10-21-2008, 01:58 PM
If I'm not mistaken, District 7 and 8 already have Texas Stadium reserved for the first round.

TheScout
10-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Havn't you been keeping up with the posts. Westerberg and Lineweaver were both sandbagging during that game.

It's like a slow race. No, after you. Oh, no I couldn't possibly go first, after you. Oh no, no, no I insist, you go first.


Bwaaaaaaa!! :D
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

tjw
10-21-2008, 05:05 PM
If I'm not mistaken, District 7 and 8 already have Texas Stadium reserved for the first round.

I'm sure as the likely choice for both districts.

Like parking at Texas Stadium field is so-so but like field at SMU with parking sucking.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:08 PM
If I'm not mistaken, District 7 and 8 already have Texas Stadium reserved for the first round.

Good.

One less thing. -- F. Gump

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:10 PM
I'm sure as the likely choice for both districts.

Like parking at Texas Stadium field is so-so but like field at SMU with parking sucking.

Hey, its the last year for this stuff at TS right?
I prefer watching more than one game. Not many venues could handle the multiple games like TS with all its problems.

Allen, Plano, Wylie, Plano West, SGP, Duncanville, Chill, (Irving/IMAC)

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:23 PM
I don't know what you're talking about. But I can say that SGP will give Allen all they want. They have arguably the best defense in the metroplex, if not state. They can shut Allen down.


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The comments and opinions expressed by goodolboy are not the opinions of anyone associated with SGP in any capacity equal to or greater than the janatorial level.

All trash aside, who SGP plays in the first round will be decided for all practical purposes this week when the Warriors and Panthers discuss it on the field.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Actually the band sounds twice as loud at Texas Stadium, I guess it's the echo in there. All I want is not to play the Breakfast Bowl!:eek:

YES. TS would only enhance the effect. Can't wait.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:30 PM
nm

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:33 PM
Wow! I can't belive you said that, your where saying Dville was going to be SGP. So are you saying Dville is better then Allen?

You have to watch your back with some of those good ole boys. They will be yelling squeal like a pig before you know it.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 05:46 PM
You could be right but they have to beat DV & Irv Mac to make the playoffs...figure GP is a given.:rolleyes:

Trust me, SGP is focused on one game only. This weeks game with goodolboys Panthers. One game at a time.

As I have stated before and will state again choosing between Allen and Plano for any 7-5A team is like deciding between a kick in the face and a kick in the nads.

tjw
10-21-2008, 08:17 PM
Trust me, SGP is focused on one game only. This weeks game with goodolboys Panthers. One game at a time.

As I have stated before and will state again choosing between Allen and Plano for any 7-5A team is like deciding between a kick in the face and a kick in the nads.

Best way to look at, the game at hand instead of ahead. :)

btw, which is which? ;) :laugh:laugh

hollywood
10-21-2008, 08:19 PM
Best way to look at, the game at hand instead of ahead. :)

btw, which is which? ;) :laugh:laugh

All I can say is that it changed last Friday. ;)

Truthfully it may really be a choice between the left one and the right one. We shall see.

tjw
10-21-2008, 08:32 PM
All I can say is that it changed last Friday. ;)

Truthfully if may really be a choice between the left one and the right one. We shall see.

:notworthy
:laugh:laugh:laugh

Good luck Friday night.

TrojanMom88
10-21-2008, 09:31 PM
No one said anything...I was just saying I'm tired of that line "especially at Trinity's second home away from home." posted earlier by TheScout. That's all.

I think Scout means that Trinity plays very well at Texas Stadium, just like the Dragons in the years past. They are not as subject to the lime light as other teams.

tjw
10-21-2008, 09:39 PM
I think Scout means that Trinity plays very well at Texas Stadium, just like the Dragons in the years past. They are not as subject to the lime light as other teams.

Not disagreeing with you but now that I found out Scout is aka Diggs I understand where he's coming from...nothing to do with Trinity as much as trying to poke at Allen fans like normal with him.

jbusch
10-21-2008, 10:19 PM
I agree that this was about selling papers and said after whooping up on Plano nothing more.:rolleyes:

I do think Allen could have beat any team the way they played Friday night, Trinity or even possibly the cowgirls like someone said.:D

All coaches hold back some during the regular season, both Lineweaver & Westerberg.;)

Tired of the line <fill in the school name> Texas stadium is their home away from home. Every team that wins there says that corny line.:rolleyes:

Look forward to the possibility of a rematch with Trinity, which until (or big if)Allen beats them Trinity is the clear favorite. Also, like the fact that maybe we woke-up Plano and maybe they will knock off Trinity first for a rematch. Anythings possible we'll just have to see what happens.

even if your wildest dreams comes true - my money's on Rowlett in the semi's :D

jbusch
10-21-2008, 10:29 PM
No one said anything...I was just saying I'm tired of that line "especially at Trinity's second home away from home." posted earlier by TheScout. That's all. I'm surprised somebody from Trinity said that. I thought SLC had a copyright on that phrase;) they (SLC) must not be reading this thread

TheScout
10-21-2008, 10:33 PM
Not disagreeing with you but now that I found out Scout is aka Diggs I understand where he's coming from...nothing to do with Trinity as much as trying to poke at Allen fans like normal with him.

First of all Diggs?

Second of all, I LOVE Allen. I was sitting at the 50 duriing the Rowlett game last year in the playoffs. I have many friends that grad from Allen and I travel with them to the games when Trinity doesn't play. Sorry if you think I was being harsh. Accept my apologies and I REALLY do LOVE Allen.

hollywood
10-22-2008, 01:38 AM
I'm surprised somebody from Trinity said that. I thought SLC had a copyright on that phrase;) they (SLC) must not be reading this thread

SLC receives royalties for the use so they are good to go with its usage as long as the checks do not bounce.

TheScout
10-22-2008, 03:04 AM
SLC receives royalties for the use so they are good to go with its usage as long as the checks do not bounce.
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

BigFoot
10-22-2008, 04:02 AM
Props to Trinity for winning in one of the most hostile environments in Texas but Allen has shown there is life after losing to the Trojans. Both teams have improved since that time, IMHO Allen has closed the gap a little bit.

Injuries would be the X factor between these teams. Trinity's been without 2 of their better players on defense the last couple of weeks. Allen's top receiver hasn't been 100% all year.

Tray Robinson hasn't regained the form he had last year as of yet either. I'd love to see a rematch of this game.

Don't believe Robinson even played against Allen. I could be wrong but I know he missed one game.

stinger
10-22-2008, 06:53 AM
Don't believe Robinson even played against Allen. I could be wrong but I know he missed one game.



You are right. He took the week off to rest his shoulder. He is being given the green light to let it go and get ready for the playoffs. The rest of the backs are really stepping up to help. Robinson will definitely be a factor come playoff time. Teame haven't seen what he has to offer this year because they haven't had to play that card.

The Great Evaluator
10-22-2008, 08:16 AM
I just hope for Tray's sake he's 100% (or close to it) come playoff time. If he is and runs hard it will give the Trojans a lift.

stinger
10-22-2008, 08:38 AM
I just hope for Tray's sake he's 100% (or close to it) come playoff time. If he is and runs hard it will give the Trojans a lift.


I firmly believe that Tray was told to do what it takes to stay healthy. He will be ready come playoff time. He has performed well thus far; I feel that he has kept his "tank" full by doing what is necessary to help the team. His importance is great, but the "other" backs will make him that much better as they can take over at any time. Just wait and see. Last year in the playoffs he was his own "superman" in the playoffs, running, catching, and scoring whenever needed. Look how well he did against John Curtis, a run defense. He is hiding and waiting for the coming out in the playoffs.;)

trojanbacker
10-22-2008, 08:44 AM
I believe he played in a portion of only one playoff game last year and was injured again. He hasn't been himself since the injury, in my opinion. Still, he's a nice weapon to have when he's healthy.

da hawaiian
10-22-2008, 10:27 AM
You see glimpses of the old Robinson. I was really encouraged with his form this past game.

All my favorite runningbacks run with great body-lean and aggression. And Trey looked like his best this past friday.

I think FB is his position. On the Toss sweeps he's not as natural as Williams or Hart or even Edwards AKA Michael Vick. But give him the ball on a trap or inside zone and he's right at home. Running him sideways takes away his best asset which is his size and linear power.

However he's the best back running the wheel route.

The Great Evaluator
10-22-2008, 11:03 AM
As always great observations Hawaiian:notworthy I think Lineweaver realized this a few weeks ago and moved him back to fullback.

TulsaHale74
10-22-2008, 11:25 AM
I'm surprised somebody from Trinity said that. I thought SLC had a copyright on that phrase;) they (SLC) must not be reading this thread
Two years ago Carroll and Colleyville Heritage played in the 500th high school game at Texas Stadium. We discussed then who had played there the most and it was Plano I believe.

No doubt Carroll copyrighted the phrase though.:notworthy

TrojanMom28
10-22-2008, 11:26 AM
I believe Tray asked to be moved to fullback as he felt it was better position for him since that was his position in 8th, 9th grade and Tevin has done a great job at RB. But lets not forget Stetson......He can play any position and does well at them all...
Overall we are just loaded with LOTS of talent and not a single player has gotten to Shine and be the only Star. We don't have just one SUPERMAN we have 90+ SUPERMEN!

SLC
10-22-2008, 11:53 AM
I'm surprised somebody from Trinity said that. I thought SLC had a copyright on that phrase;) they (SLC) must not be reading this thread


We do have copyright on that phrase at Texas Stadium... And it is ours... :D


And to the point of Matt saying what he said... First he is a student and had just beat their rival Plano... I cant blame him for being pumped about that.. Football is an emotional game, especially for a 16-18 yr old... And honestlt I wouldnt want him to think or say anything other than what he did..

And to add another comment... I believe if Allen and Trinity were to play today it would be a push as to who would win... Allen is playing really good football right now and I wouldnt want to face them on a neutral field, let alone in Allen...

TheScout
10-22-2008, 12:20 PM
We do have copyright on that phrase at Texas Stadium... And it is ours... :D


And to the point of Matt saying what he said... First he is a student and had just beat their rival Plano... I cant blame him for being pumped about that.. Football is an emotional game, especially for a 16-18 yr old... And honestlt I wouldnt want him to think or say anything other than what he did..

And to add another comment... I believe if Allen and Trinity were to play today it would be a push as to who would win... Allen is playing really good football right now and I wouldnt want to face them on a neutral field, let alone in Allen...

fans of Trinity are SO used to hearing this. Especially from SLC fans. every time Trinity has a successful season, everyone questions every game they win because they don't play like everyone else thinks they should. But Trinity just keeps on winning. And people need to remember, Allen has played excellent ball ALL year. they have high scoring offense and great defense; Trinity just made them play out of character, and they beat them IN ALLEN. So to say all of a sudden they are unstoppable, is just a little uninformed. But yes, any team can beat any other team on any given night.

THSBandDad
10-22-2008, 12:31 PM
I believe he played in a portion of only one playoff game last year and was injured again. He hasn't been himself since the injury, in my opinion. Still, he's a nice weapon to have when he's healthy.

I thought that he got hurt at the Bell game last year and missed most of the playoffs. I know he came in during a game at Texas Stadium, but re-injured it.

I think he didn't play much in the Cedar Hill game due to the shoulder injury, then didn't play against Allen at all (but I could be wrong here).

But boy, does he look good as a fullback this year. And with Tevin Williams behind him at RB, watch out! (Or Hart, or ...) :D

SLC
10-22-2008, 12:32 PM
fans of Trinity are SO used to hearing this. Especially from SLC fans. every time Trinity has a successful season, everyone questions every game they win because they don't play like everyone else thinks they should. But Trinity just keeps on winning. And people need to remember, Allen has played excellent ball ALL year. they have high scoring offense and great defense; Trinity just made them play out of character, and they beat them IN ALLEN. So to say all of a sudden they are unstoppable, is just a little uninformed. But yes, any team can beat any other team on any given night.


I dont believe I said Allen was unstoppable, in fact I know I didnt... What I said was they are playing very well.. And I think that if they were to play today it would be a push... I think Trinity is playing lights out football and have proved thus far to be the best team in the country, let alone the state..

Dont see it as a slight to Trinity that I give my opinion on whether or not I think either team could win if they played tomorrow... Cause like I said i think it would be a PUSH... meaning either could win... Never said Allen would or Trinity would... Your being a little hyper sensitive on the matter...

DragonFan0316
10-22-2008, 12:32 PM
fans of Trinity are SO used to hearing this. Especially from SLC fans. every time Trinity has a successful season, everyone questions every game they win because they don't play like everyone else thinks they should. But Trinity just keeps on winning. And people need to remember, Allen has played excellent ball ALL year. they have high scoring offense and great defense; Trinity just made them play out of character, and they beat them IN ALLEN. So to say all of a sudden they are unstoppable, is just a little uninformed. But yes, any team can beat any other team on any given night.

They keep on winning all but 1 game. :D SLC fans respect Trinity and their fans. I frankly think Trinity will beat the snot out of Allen and anyone else they play.

TheScout
10-22-2008, 12:41 PM
They keep on winning all but 1 game. :D SLC fans respect Trinity and their fans. I frankly think Trinity will beat the snot out of Allen and anyone else they play.

Please don't bring up the Christmas present fake.:D

SLC
10-22-2008, 12:42 PM
They keep on winning all but 1 game. :D SLC fans respect Trinity and their fans. I frankly think Trinity will beat the snot out of Allen and anyone else they play.

Exactly... And I dont know any Dragon fan that doesnt...

They didnt beat the snot out of them to begin with, so no reason to think it would happen if they played again...

The Great Evaluator
10-22-2008, 12:49 PM
fans of Trinity are SO used to hearing this. Especially from SLC fans. every time Trinity has a successful season, everyone questions every game they win because they don't play like everyone else thinks they should. But Trinity just keeps on winning. And people need to remember, Allen has played excellent ball ALL year. they have high scoring offense and great defense; Trinity just made them play out of character, and they beat them IN ALLEN. So to say all of a sudden they are unstoppable, is just a little uninformed. But yes, any team can beat any other team on any given night.

I disagree, from what I've read on this board, there's a great mutual respect between fans from both schools. I think they have both set a great example for everyone else. Of course if they had to play each other every year things might not be quite so friendly:D

TrojanHorse03
10-22-2008, 01:07 PM
It's important to remember Trinity would possibly be playing Plano before Allen and Trinity would not get to play the same Plano team Allen played. While Allen was the better team on Friday, Plano won't play any worse than they did last Friday. Just like there were some things overlooked in the first Trinity/Permain game, it shouldn't be overlooked that while yes Plano didn't match Allen in points, Meger still had over 300 yards passing and Burkhead had 124 yards rushing. 5 turnovers were the reason for the large margin of victory just like it was for Trinity against Permian. The things people say and talk about in the regular season will not be the things people talk about and say in hindsight of the season. And every bit like Trinity last year Plano will be nothing short of hell bent on redeeming itself.

As for Allen, people are right Allen has gotten a lot better just like Trinity did after the first Permian game. Trinity's not perfect, there's always things they can do better. And then there's this, Matt Brown and Allen are not the only ones who believe they smell Trinity's blood in the water. Plano, Permian, The Woodlands, Bell, fans, poll, media outlets, pundits, and others believe they smell it too. But Trinity can't focus on them untill they get those respective days in courts so to speak :mad:. All Trinity has is the NEXT, Trinity has a lot of games they would have to win over good teams before they can even earn the honor of another shot at Allen so they only thing Trinity is focused on is whether or not they as a team too are getting better instead of worse and that starts with the next game which is Grapevine. Things will be revealed 1 game at a time ;).

DragonFan0316
10-22-2008, 01:10 PM
I disagree, from what I've read on this board, there's a great mutual respect between fans from both schools. I think they have both set a great example for everyone else. Of course if they had to play each other every year things might not be quite so friendly:D

Bite your tongue! They occasional play off meeting is plenty.:D

c-lisle
10-22-2008, 01:49 PM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.

trojanbacker
10-22-2008, 01:56 PM
And, by weak district opponent, I guess you mean Keller who is 6 - 1? They are good and deserve that record. And, as far as close wins go..... a ten point win week after week will get you another state title.

Every team can be beaten, including Trinity. They've never said otherwise that I'm aware of.

THSBandDad
10-22-2008, 01:57 PM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.

Did they win the game? Would you and your team take/accept a 16-0 season and a state championship if your total point differential for the year was only 16 or 17 points? HELL yes you would!! Points mean diddly, W's matter.

I don't see very many people bowing down to Trinity. In fact, I see a lot of fans that realize anyone, including ET, is beatable. That includes ET fans. Would Allen beat ET next time? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe we'll get to see in week 12 or 13.

It's just funny how many people want another shot at Trinity, they wouldn't have to say that if they'd won the first game. :D Trinity obviously wanted another shot at Permian last year and are thankful that the got it.

TrojanHorse03
10-22-2008, 01:58 PM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.

1) Few if any have been critical of Matt Brown's comments
2) A lot of people actually predicted an Allen upset at Allen's house.
3) People have been anything but bowing down to Trinity, but instead have criticised the way they win every week.
4) That nameless "weak" district opponent is Keller, who is 6-1.

Anything else?

stinger
10-22-2008, 02:06 PM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.


You stuck your foot in your mouth there, bud. To say you saw a score, not a game, where it was close is a bad thing to do. The score didn't reveal the game....Trinity ran up 28 un-answered points (Ithink) and then went into the prevent defense. It might have been a little too early to do this, but it turned out okay. What is the strength or your team, district, schedule? Probably nothing to brag about, eh? Be careful what you say before you run out of foot to chew on.

Maroondog
10-22-2008, 02:09 PM
I've been saying for months that until PROVEN otherwise, Trinity is still the champs.
Everybody likes to take shots if they don't win by 50. What is so often forgotten is that win is the key word and they've done that. Until and unless you can paste an 'L' on them the final margin of victory is irrelevant.
When someone actually BEATS Trinity, then there will room to talk, not before.

slcdragonfan
10-22-2008, 02:14 PM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.

Uh-Oh. Now you got it going....I was hoping we were past all that...:D

bigdaddydog
10-22-2008, 02:24 PM
It's important to remember Trinity would possibly be playing Plano before Allen and Trinity would not get to play the same Plano team Allen played. While Allen was the better team on Friday, Plano won't play any worse than they did last Friday. Just like there were some things overlooked in the first Trinity/Permain game, it shouldn't be overlooked that while yes Plano didn't match Allen in points, Meger still had over 300 yards passing and Burkhead had 124 yards rushing. 5 turnovers were the reason for the large margin of victory just like it was for Trinity against Permian. The things people say and talk about in the regular season will not be the things people talk about and say in hindsight of the season. And every bit like Trinity last year Plano will be nothing short of hell bent on redeeming itself.

As for Allen, people are right Allen has gotten a lot better just like Trinity did after the first Permian game. Trinity's not perfect, there's always things they can do better. And then there's this, Matt Brown and Allen are not the only ones who believe they smell Trinity's blood in the water. Plano, Permian, The Woodlands, Bell, fans, poll, media outlets, pundits, and others believe they smell it too. But Trinity can't focus on them untill they get those respective days in courts so to speak :mad:. All Trinity has is the NEXT, Trinity has a lot of games they would have to win over good teams before they can even earn the honor of another shot at Allen so they only thing Trinity is focused on is whether or not they as a team too are getting better instead of worse and that starts with the next game which is Grapevine. Things will be revealed 1 game at a time ;).

Very Well said!! :notworthy

I love the way Wixon has spun Brown's comments into all this "rematch" talk. Brown was talking about the way they played Friday and applying it the the trinity game they already played. Brown knows better than anyone on the Allen team what it means to stay focused and take it one game at a time.

Good luck on Friday.


~

Maroondog
10-22-2008, 02:36 PM
Very Well said!! :notworthy

I love the way Wixon has spun Brown's comments into all this "rematch" talk. Brown was talking about the way they played Friday and applying it the the trinity game they already played. Brown knows better than anyone on the Allen team what it means to stay focused and take it one game at a time.

Good luck on Friday.


~

Wixon, a media person has put a spin on something? Surely you jest!
(And no, I will not stop calling you Shirley) :D

ASH1157
10-22-2008, 04:16 PM
I'm sure this was covered after the Allen/Trinity game, but one thing Trinity did a masterful job of was ball control. In other words, the opportunities Allen had in that game to score were limited...so when you make a mistake or two (as Allen did), it's hard to get ahead. As long as Trinity can run the ball as effectively as it did in the Allen game, I'd still think Trinity would have to be favored in a rematch.

c-lisle
10-22-2008, 04:25 PM
QUOTE=TrojanHorse03;942613]1) Few if any have been critical of Matt Brown's comments
havent read this whole thread so you may be right but obviously something is being made of it
2) A lot of people actually predicted an Allen upset at Allen's house.
I followed the game thread and I saw alot of Allen ppl bowing down and didnt seem to me like many gave Allen a chance
3) People have been anything but bowing down to Trinity, but instead have criticised the way they win every week.
4) That nameless "weak" district opponent is Keller, who is 6-1.
come on man....they are weak team look at who they have played. if trinity was so big and bad they should have beaten them much worse than 17-10

Anything else?[/QUOTE].

my comments in orange

trojanbacker
10-22-2008, 04:37 PM
You're confusing a couple of things. You seem to think showing respect for another team is bowing down to them. Trinity shows respect for the teams they play and tend to get respect in return. If this is your interpretation of "bowing down," so be it. Most of us look at it another way.

Keller is 6 - 1. They narrowly lost to Trinity. What exactly about those two true statements prove that they are weak?

I know there are those who feel that a team has to beat another team by 40 to prove a point. I've always felt that as long as you win, it doesn't matter whether it is 1 point or 50. Last year Trinity beat Judson by 3 in the state championship game. In your view of things, I suppose that wasn't "really" a big win since it wasn't a blowout. I'll take the championship any day.

TrojanHorse03
10-22-2008, 04:51 PM
Bowing down to Trinity? All I'll say is wow. If one didn't know better they would of thought Trinity lost to Allen, Colleyville, and Keller they way some people tell it, just based on somethings that have been said and can be found just within the last 24 hours....you know what nvm.

Texcat
10-22-2008, 04:54 PM
I don't know about all the Trinity versus Allen or the world stuff, but the chick in the "earnmydegree.com" add at the bottom of the page is hot!

TrojanMom88
10-22-2008, 05:05 PM
QUOTE=TrojanHorse03;942613]1) Few if any have been critical of Matt Brown's comments
havent read this whole thread so you may be right but obviously something is being made of it
2) A lot of people actually predicted an Allen upset at Allen's house.
I followed the game thread and I saw alot of Allen ppl bowing down and didnt seem to me like many gave Allen a chance
3) People have been anything but bowing down to Trinity, but instead have criticised the way they win every week.
4) That nameless "weak" district opponent is Keller, who is 6-1.
come on man....they are weak team look at who they have played. if trinity was so big and bad they should have beaten them much worse than 17-10

Anything else?.


YOU SIMIPLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRINITY TROJAN FOOTBALL....

THEY DON'T PUT UP 50-7 NUMBERS UNLESS THEIR 3-4 STRING DO IT!! WHICH THEY CAN BUT AREN'T GIVEN A CHANCE VERY OFTEN!!

IF AND WHEN WE MEET ALLEN AGAIN THEY WILL BE MET WITH THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE... THEN THEY WILL HAVE PLAYED WELL ENOUGH TO DESERVE A REMATCH... JUST AS TRINITY WILL HAVE.

UNTIL THEN, WHO WOULD BE WITH ME, THAT THE BOYS ON BOTH TEAMS ARE ONLY WORRIED WITH THIS WEEKS GAME AND WISH THE MEDIA WOULD KEEP THEIR:Censor:MOUTHS SHUT!!!!

THSBandDad
10-22-2008, 05:07 PM
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YOU SIMIPLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRINITY TROJAN FOOTBALL....

THEY DON'T PUT UP 50-7 NUMBERS UNLESS THEIR 3-4 STRING DO IT!! WHICH THEY CAN BUT AREN'T GIVEN A CHANCE VERY OFTEN!!

IF AND WHEN WE MEET ALLEN AGAIN THEY WILL BE MET WITH THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE... THEN THEY WILL HAVE PLAYED WELL ENOUGH TO DESERVE A REMATCH... JUST AS TRINITY WILL HAVE.

UNTIL THEN, WHO WOULD BE WITH ME, THAT THE BOYS ON BOTH TEAMS ARE ONLY WORRIED WITH THIS WEEKS GAME AND WISH THE MEDIA WOULD KEEP THEIR:Censor:MOUTHS SHUT!!!!

WORD! (or is that too "old school"?) Ok, THIS!

jbusch
10-22-2008, 08:14 PM
1) Few if any have been critical of Matt Brown's comments2) A lot of people actually predicted an Allen upset at Allen's house.
3) People have been anything but bowing down to Trinity, but instead have criticised the way they win every week.
4) That nameless "weak" district opponent is Keller, who is 6-1.

Anything else? if you go back to the threads after the ET - Allen game you'll see more support from ET fans Matt Brown than the several Allen fans that raked him over pretty good.

Pssst - Hey Allen your stadium still vacuums

Eagle1986
10-22-2008, 08:20 PM
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YOU SIMIPLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRINITY TROJAN FOOTBALL....

THEY DON'T PUT UP 50-7 NUMBERS UNLESS THEIR 3-4 STRING DO IT!! WHICH THEY CAN BUT AREN'T GIVEN A CHANCE VERY OFTEN!!

IF AND WHEN WE MEET ALLEN AGAIN THEY WILL BE MET WITH THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE... THEN THEY WILL HAVE PLAYED WELL ENOUGH TO DESERVE A REMATCH... JUST AS TRINITY WILL HAVE.

UNTIL THEN, WHO WOULD BE WITH ME, THAT THE BOYS ON BOTH TEAMS ARE ONLY WORRIED WITH THIS WEEKS GAME AND WISH THE MEDIA WOULD KEEP THEIR:Censor:MOUTHS SHUT!!!!


Amen!:notworthy

Trojan4653
10-22-2008, 08:25 PM
I've been saying for months that until PROVEN otherwise, Trinity is still the champs.
Everybody likes to take shots if they don't win by 50. What is so often forgotten is that win is the key word and they've done that. Until and unless you can paste an 'L' on them the final margin of victory is irrelevant.
When someone actually BEATS Trinity, then there will room to talk, not before.

:notworthy

TheScout
10-23-2008, 12:20 AM
I don't know about all the Trinity versus Allen or the world stuff, but the chick in the "earnmydegree.com" add at the bottom of the page is hot!

:notworthyPreach it!!!!! Preach it!!!!!:notworthy

stinger
10-23-2008, 07:02 AM
I've been saying for months that until PROVEN otherwise, Trinity is still the champs.
Everybody likes to take shots if they don't win by 50. What is so often forgotten is that win is the key word and they've done that. Until and unless you can paste an 'L' on them the final margin of victory is irrelevant.
When someone actually BEATS Trinity, then there will room to talk, not before.



EXACTLY!!!
THANK YOU MAROONDOG:D:D

Bill4par
10-23-2008, 07:58 AM
TrojanMom....Great post!!! My sentiments exactly! Good luck to your son!

Gazelle
10-23-2008, 08:06 AM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.

And I saw where last year, a team got pounded in week 3 by a score of 30 - 3, won out, came back and rolled that same team in a 3rd round playoff game 38 - 14 and wound up winning state.

Clark
10-23-2008, 09:58 AM
I've been saying for months that until PROVEN otherwise, Trinity is still the champs.
Everybody likes to take shots if they don't win by 50. What is so often forgotten is that win is the key word and they've done that. Until and unless you can paste an 'L' on them the final margin of victory is irrelevant.
When someone actually BEATS Trinity, then there will room to talk, not before.
Exactly right. Trinity deserves all the credit they get, and none of the criticism. A win is a win; it hurts nothing to leave your opponent with some dignity after the final gun. 49-7 is worth one win; 10-7 is the same.

TrojanMom88
10-23-2008, 11:19 AM
TrojanMom....Great post!!! My sentiments exactly! Good luck to your son!

Thank you! I can only pray that this week's game will allow him a little more play time.

Last week he was thrown in at the last minute as defensive end, then as TE and then again as DE. Coach told him this week he would try to work him in again on Defense.

My son perfers offense, but I saw a totally different young man on defense, in a good way!

Thanks again!

Welcome to the board!!!:):)

tjw
10-23-2008, 11:35 AM
And I saw where last year, a team got pounded in week 3 by a score of 30 - 3, won out, came back and rolled that same team in a 3rd round playoff game 38 - 14 and wound up winning state.

Well I don't think we'll see a repeat this year.:D

TrojanMom88
10-23-2008, 11:47 AM
Well I don't think we'll see a repeat this year.:D

Nope, you wont! We don't intend to have a revenge match this year as we did with Odessa. When the time comes we will take care of business.

But please do come out and give it your best shot, after all it will be Allen who will have something to try to prove.:D

Trinity will treat the match up the same way they do every game.
One game at a time!!!

tjw
10-23-2008, 11:52 AM
Nope, you wont! We don't intend to have a revenge match this year as we did with Odessa. When the time comes we will take care of business.

But please do come out and give it your best shot, after all it will be Allen who will have something to try to prove.:D

Trinity will treat the match up the same way they do every game.
One game at a time!!!

Hey TrojanMom88 this was meant as a repsonse to Gazelle as he was indicating Plano would do what Trinity did last year when they lost to Periman.

But it will be like every Playoff game that is different then non-district games

btw I can use those big letters with colors too!:D

:laugh

TrojanMom88
10-23-2008, 12:15 PM
Hey TrojanMom88 this was meant as a repsonse to Gazelle as he was indicating Plano would do what Trinity did last year when they lost to Periman.

But it will be like every Playoff game that is different then non-district games

btw I can use those big letters with colors too!:D

:laugh

With out being able to fully read your mind, one might have thought it was indicated that Allen, week 3 opponent to Trinity Trojans who are the defending 5A D1 state champions, was going to be seeking revenge.

After all it wouldn't be the first time that someone from ALLEN had pointed out the similarities.

Sorry if my response rubbed you the wrong way!:rolleyes:

THSBandDad
10-23-2008, 12:27 PM
Well I don't think we'll see a repeat this year.:D

Assuming Trinity does indeed make it to the regional finals, maybe they'll meet Allen again. It would be a very good game indeed. But, that is still quite a few weeks away. It's all about Grapevine this week.

That is assuming that Allen gets past SGP, Coppell, and Permian (my guesses of Allen's opponents are based upon this week's 5ATF projected brackets, http://www.5atexasfootball.com/5ad1proj08_week8.pdf).

trojanbacker
10-23-2008, 12:31 PM
7 pages of comments about an offhand remark made by a quarterback after an emotional win? Wow, imagine how many pages we could have filled if he had said something that was actually controversial.....

da hawaiian
10-23-2008, 12:34 PM
dont know what all the fuss is about here. This kid has every right to want another shot at Trinity. From what I saw very few ppl gave Allen any shot of the first game being close and then Trinity only beat them by 10 points. I would feel like I had shot at beating them a second time also.

And another thing it is like everyone is bowing down to Trinity like they are unbeatable....i saw a score where they only beat a weak district opponent by 7 points.

Who'd have thought the Allen Football team and community would like their chances in a rematch?

Imagine the nerve of these people. :D:D:D

bigdaddydog
10-23-2008, 12:49 PM
7 pages of comments about an offhand remark made by a quarterback after an emotional win? Wow, imagine how many pages we could have filled if he had said something that was actually controversial.....

It just shows how starved folks are for something to sink their teeth into.

This week we sink our teeth into The Jesuit Rangers. :)

So if I start a Jesuit vs Allen game thread what are the odds we get 7 posts much less 7 pages? :rolleyes:


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tjw
10-23-2008, 12:53 PM
With out being able to fully read your mind, one might have thought it was indicated that Allen, week 3 opponent to Trinity Trojans who are the defending 5A D1 state champions, was going to be seeking revenge.

After all it wouldn't be the first time that someone from ALLEN had pointed out the similarities.

Sorry if my response rubbed you the wrong way!:rolleyes:

All in fun TrojanMom88.:D

TheScout
10-23-2008, 01:11 PM
It just shows how starved folks are for something to sink their teeth into.

This week we sink our talons into The Jesuit Rangers. :)

So if I start a Jesuit vs Allen game thread what are the odds we get 7 posts much less 7 pages? :rolleyes:


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FIFY:D

bigdaddydog
10-23-2008, 02:50 PM
FIFY:D

Yes You Did! LOL :D

Gazelle
10-23-2008, 03:18 PM
Hey TrojanMom88 this was meant as a repsonse to Gazelle as he was indicating Plano would do what Trinity did last year when they lost to Periman....


Nope -

TrojanMom is right.

I was actually saying Allen is in the same position as Trinity was at this time last year.

Let'sl see what happens in the next 7 weeks.

TrojanMom88
10-23-2008, 03:23 PM
Nope -

TrojanMom is right.

I was actually saying Allen is in the same position as Trinity was at this time last year.

Let'sl see what happens in the next 7 weeks.

Thanks Gazelle, I was begining to think that I had lost my mind. I am usually right on when following the posts.

I couldn't agree more, we have a long ways to go before we cross that bridge!!

dragonpants
10-23-2008, 03:28 PM
7 pages of comments about an offhand remark made by a quarterback after an emotional win? Wow, imagine how many pages we could have filled if he had said something that was actually controversial.....

What was he supposed to say? Oh they are too big and too good, I do not want to play them again.

I am sure he wants another shot at Trinity, it would be in the playoffs,,,,, duh.

TrojanHorse03
10-23-2008, 05:38 PM
I don't think there's really much if any criticism that can be found of Brown in this thread. Everybody is calling out Trinity for a shot...Trinity wouldn't want it any other way. What some people don't realize is just how much our boys love competition, they love to compete against the very best. IF Trinity can take it one game time, and is good enough to meet Allen, they would love that opportunity to prove themselves again.

tjw
10-23-2008, 05:50 PM
Nope -

TrojanMom is right.

I was actually saying Allen is in the same position as Trinity was at this time last year.

Let'sl see what happens in the next 7 weeks.

Yeah right :rolleyes:, you already posted that before the Allen-Plano game saying no big deal if Allen beats Plano (like they did:D) it did not stop them from winning state and referred to Trinity losing to Periman last year to still win state.

TrojanHorse03
10-23-2008, 05:55 PM
Yeah right :rolleyes:, you already posted that before the Allen-Plano game saying no big deal if Allen beats Plano (like they did:D) it did not stop them from winning state and referred to Trinity losing to Periman last year to still win state.

Even if that's what he meant, he's right. Allen beating Plano does nothing to stop Plano from winning state. Rex Burkhead and Co. shouldn't be underestimated, dismissed, or counted out until someone actually knocks them off in the postseason. There's not many teams as good as Allen is playing right now, Plano will still be a tough out for anybody as Trinity found out last year after Plano lost to Allen too. This wouldn't be the first time Plano has come back from a loss to Allen to exceed some's expectations.