Week 8 AP Texas High School Football Polls

[WOS87]

Class 5A

Team Rec Pts Pvs

1. Euless Trinity (19) 7-0 199 1

2. Galena Park North Shore (1) 5-0 175 3

3. Abilene 7-0 153 4

4. Odessa Permian 7-0 127 5

5. Allen 6-1 110 8

6. The Woodlands 7-0 102 6

7. Copperas Cove 7-0 88 7

8. Pearland 6-0 61 9

9. Southlake Carroll 5-1 28 10

10. Plano 7-1 25 2

Others receiving votes: Fort Bend Hightower 10. Beaumont West

Brook 5. Los Fresnos 5. Colleyville Heritage 4. Arlington Bowie 3.

Austin Bowie 3. Round Rock Stony Point 1. San Antonio Madison 1.

Class 4A

Team Rec Pts Pvs

1. Lake Travis (20) 8-0 200 1

2. Everman 7-0 169 2

3. Dallas Highland Park 7-0 160 3

4. Aledo 7-0 141 4

5. Longview 7-1 93 6

6. Ennis 7-0 83 8

7. Dallas Carter 7-0 80 7

8. Port Lavaca Calhoun 5-1 55 5

9. Schertz Steele 7-0 49 9

10. Wolfforth Frenship 7-0 36 10

Others receiving votes: Kerrville Tivy 12. Edcouch-Elsa 8. Alice

2. Hewitt Midway 2. Friendswood 2. Dripping Springs 2. Fort Worth

Dunbar 2. Texarkana 2. Sulphur Springs 1. Denison 1.

Class 3A

Team Rec Pts Pvs

1. Liberty Hill (20) 8-0 200 1

2. China Spring 7-0 171 2

3. West Orange-Stark 5-0 155 3

4. Navasota 6-0 126 4

5. Waco La Vega 6-1 115 5

6. Gilmer 6-1 97 6

7. Abilene Wylie 5-2 60 7

8. Texarkana Pleasant Grove 7-0 45 10

9. Cuero 5-1 44 8

10. Bridgeport 7-0 43 -

Others receiving votes: Kennedale 14. Bellville 12. Prosper 6.

La Vernia 3. Diboll 3. Tyler Chapel Hill 3. Sweetwater 2. Giddings

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Class 2A

Team Rec Pts Pvs

1. Arp (9) 6-0 164 2

2. Refugio (2) 7-0 163 3

3. Kirbyville (3) 6-0 158 4

4. Muleshoe (3) 7-0 142 5

5. Altair Rice 6-0 88 7

6. Blanco 8-0 74 8

7. Cisco (3) 6-1 73 1

8. Daingerfield 6-1 56 9

9. Hitchcock 4-1 54 6

10. Clyde 6-1 35 -

Others receiving votes: Grandview 16. Bushland 16. Kermit 11.

Pilot Point 10. Idalou 7. Brady 5. New Waverly 5. Caddo Mills 4.

West Rusk 4. Paradise 3. Alpine 3. Littlefield 3. Kerens 2.

Corrigan-Camden 2. Pattonville Prariland 1. Salado 1.

Class 1A

Team Rec Pts Pvs

1. Maud (17) 7-0 184 2

2. Itasca 8-0 137 3

3. Iraan 7-0 135 5

4. Roscoe (1) 6-1 112 4

5. Stratford (1) 6-1 110 8

6. Bremond 7-0 99 6

7. Shiner 6-0 92 7

8. Quinlan Boles 7-0 64 9

9. Canadian 6-1 53 1

10. New Deal 7-0 36 10

Others receiving votes: Cayuga 18. Mart 10. Mason 10. Archer

City 10. Albany 10. Menard 7. Wellington 4. Tenaha 4. Clarendon 2.

Junction 2. Mount Enterprise 1.

[bowiedawgs01]

How the heck did Bowie get 3 votes and Stony Point and Madison only get 1? I don't agree with that at this point in time.

[WOS87]

How the heck did Bowie get 3 votes and Stony Point and Madison only get 1? I don't agree with that at this point in time.

Perhaps one of the voters confused Austin Bowie with Arlington Bowie

[ruffshod]

I see your boys are still playing good ball.

[bowiedawgs01]

Probably. That guy should have his vote taken from him if so.

[Lights Out]

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[svhorns]

we beat Madison... and they still have a vote...??

Austin Bowie lost to Vista Ridge... Madison lost to SV... I guess I just don't get it:confused:

[CKE]

How the heck did Bowie get 3 votes and Stony Point and Madison only get 1? I don't agree with that at this point in time.

How the heck did Madison get 1 and SV got none :rolleyes:

[caesarscott]

polls dont mean much.

Austin Bowie does have a good team, though. they rank high in both scoring offense and scoring defense. few teams do it better.

[svhorns]

polls dont mean much.

Austin Bowie does have a good team, though. they rank high in both scoring offense and scoring defense. few teams do it better.

Austin Bowie might have a god team... but have horrible losses to Vista Ridge and Westlake...

allowing 30 points to a 2-5 team in Vista Ridge and allowing 49 points to a 3-4 Westlake team isn't going to cut it... Bastrop allowed 49 points also to Westlake... I don't see any type of quality defense being played...

[caesarscott]

losing to westlake is no shame. its bad loss only b/c they were ahead and blew it. dont know how they lost to vista ridge. maybe they underestimated the new 5A team. i probably would have.

[svhorns]

losing to westlake is no shame. its bad loss only b/c they were ahead and blew it. dont know how they lost to vista ridge. maybe they underestimated the new 5A team. i probably would have.

now that I'm looking at it... only one team in 25-5a has held its opponents to under 21ppg... and thats P-ville...

thats :eek:

compared to 5 teams in 26-5a who are under the 21ppg mark...

and 6 teams in 16-5a have held their opponents under the 21ppg mark...

Westlake is a middle of the road team this year...

[TheScout]

Wow, I figured Allen much higher

[Empire strikes back]

Dang! This poll is very precise in its rankings! I like it!



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[tjw]

Wow, I figured Allen much higher

I don't mind being at #5 less pressure and a little under the radar is nice.:D

[CKE]

now that I'm looking at it... only one team in 25-5a has held its opponents to under 21ppg... and thats P-ville...

thats :eek:

compared to 5 teams in 26-5a who are under the 21ppg mark...

and 6 teams in 16-5a have held their opponents under the 21ppg mark...

Westlake is a middle of the road team this year...

4 of those teams are under the 14ppg mark and the 26-5a team that got a vote is not one of them.

[AHSeagles]

I'm surprised Clyde isn't ranked higher than 10 in 2A after beating fairly soundly then #1 Cisco.

As far as the 5A poll goes, I kinda like seeing Abilene and Permian at 3 and 4.:D

[SLC]

Cheese.......

[t00 playa]

Pearland and woodlands are very underrated and GPNS is overrated.... NS is playing well....but its hard to argue against what the oilers and highlanders have done thus far.... they have been dominant...:eek:

[- sTp -]

How the heck did Bowie get 3 votes and Stony Point and Madison only get 1? I don't agree with that at this point in time.

Thanks for the pat on the back.. :notworthy

[Oiler99]

thanks for the love too playa, but year in and year out your stangs are contenders, this year is no different... as for the woodlands i most definitely agree, pearland on the other hand probably should be a few spots down.. i want to see how we do against deer park first... and if we win the road to the regional finals wouldnt be as hard as years past, if you know what i mean.

[SaRattlerFan]

Los Fresnos with 5 votes and SA Madison gets 1 and SV none?

When is the last time a valley team beat a team from SA in the playoffs?

[fridaynightfan]

I'm wondering why SLC is there. I'm thinking Heritage could beat them now. Hebron's new kicking game might make them better now, and Coppell beat them at least once. Granted, seeded in second division they might make some noise in the playoffs, but I just don't see them ranked anymore.

[SLC]

I'm wondering why SLC is there. I'm thinking Heritage could beat them now. Hebron's new kicking game might make them better now, and Coppell beat them at least once. Granted, seeded in second division they might make some noise in the playoffs, but I just don't see them ranked anymore.

1. Were the Southlake Carroll Dragaons

2. We could at any time come to life and start killin folk



Also you tie Division 2 to being a weaker division and thats simply not the case...

[DrEdward]

I'm wondering why SLC is there. I'm thinking Heritage could beat them now. Hebron's new kicking game might make them better now, and Coppell beat them at least once. Granted, seeded in second division they might make some noise in the playoffs, but I just don't see them ranked anymore.

Carroll is still there due to the astute observation by the voters that it has lost but one game this season and that by a narrow margin in overtime. As we have discussed previously, most of the voters in these polls will never see the teams they are voting on, so reputation does matter among voters. hertitage might be able to take down the Dragons this season, especially given the current banged up condition of the defese, but once again reputation matters in the voting, if not on the field. In all previous meeting between the two, CHHS has never managed a win and those voting know that. That may change in the palyoffs should the two meet and heritage manage to pick up its first win. So it should not at all be that much of a surprise that Carroll is still ranked. Carroll, should it succeed in making the playoffs, will decidedly be in D-II, as it is the second smallest school in 6-5A. I would agree that unlike many, if not most, previous seasons, more of the state's power 5A teams will find themselves in D-I.

[AllenEagle06]

Wow, I figured Allen much higher
No no, we're fine with #5! :D Gives us something to work for.

[tjw]

These polls are simply amazing how silly they work...a few years back Allen got no respect no matter who they beat...#1, #2, or any top 5 in the state they could not break into the top ten. It still took a few years of making the playoffs to start #2 in the state like last year...but still no National respect never lower then #40 or so. So now that Allen is finally getting some recognition in the national polls...this week #19 in the national poll http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/content/topstories/stories/102108dnsponationalpoll.13225b8f9.html they'll enjoy it and play next weeks game without consideration of the polls. I know the polls really mean nothing but always good to get some respect. I see a few teams this year getting the same lack of respect...Garland, Carrollton Creekview, Richland, etc. all undefeated but not in the Top Ten teams in the state? Keep winning and playing well and it eventually comes around.

[TEAMFALCON]

Los Fresnos with 5 votes and SA Madison gets 1 and SV none?

When is the last time a valley team beat a team from SA in the playoffs?

You're right.

Don't sweat it, these polls don't mean much.


As far as your question, when was the last time a 5A RGV team beat a SA team, I think it was in 1999, Edinburg beating SA Taft.

But come on, when Los Fresnos scored 14 points in the 1st quarter last year against your Rattlers(3rd round), you weren't a little nervous? And just as an FYI, the QB LF was playing with in the playoff was a backup.

[SLC]

Carroll is still there due to the astute observation by the voters that it has lost but one game this season and that by a narrow margin in overtime. As we have discussed previously, most of the voters in these polls will never see the teams they are voting on, so reputation does matter among voters. hertitage might be able to take down the Dragons this season, especially given the current banged up condition of the defese, but once again reputation matters in the voting, if not on the field. In all previous meeting between the two, CHHS has never managed a win and those voting know that. That may change in the palyoffs should the two meet and heritage manage to pick up its first win. So it should not at all be that much of a surprise that Carroll is still ranked. Carroll, should it succeed in making the playoffs, will decidedly be in D-II, as it is the second smallest school in 6-5A. I would agree that unlike many, if not most, previous seasons, more of the state's power 5A teams will find themselves in D-I.


I'll say again its not a forgone conclusion that D1 is a stronger division... This has been a myth of sorts among fans of teams that typically play in D1.... In fact it may have to do with the fact that its the bigger schools that play in D1.. So therefore you think because its bigger that it somehow translates to better... In fact you could actually argue that the D2 division tournament has actually had the better teams in it.... With actually more teams in that division tournament... I went back to the most recent history listed on this site which includes 2000-2006 and just look at some of the name teams that were in each division and you tell me... The only year I could say definitively that D1 was proly better would have been 2006, when its recent past got turned on its head for a season and alot of the D2 teams were in D1... There were several times that teams flip floped between divisions as well.. And most I think would say that sometimes the 2 best teams in the state were in D2.....


2000
D1- Midland Lee, Pearland, Westlake, Judson, The Woodlands, Copperas Cove, Duncanville, Mesquite, Lewisville.
Winner- Midland Lee over Westlake

D2- Plano, Tyler, Lufkin, Allen, Garland, Spring Westfield, Katy, Abilene, North Shore, Pflugerville.
Winner- Katy over Tyler

2001
D1- Midland Lee, Tyler Lee, Pearland, Judson, The Woodlands, Lewisville, Copperas Cove, Duncanville, Mesquite.
Winner- Mesquite over Taft

D2- Trinity, Allen, Longview, Spring Westfield, Plano, Lufkin, Katy, North Shore, Westlake, Leander, Pflugerville, Abilene, Cooper, Carter.
Winner- Lufkin over Westlake

2002
D1- Trinity, Tyler Lee, Judson, The Woodlands, Mesquite, Duncanville, North Shore.
Winner- Judson over Midland

D2- Carroll, Abilene, Allen, Lufkin, Pflugerville, Longview, Leander, Garland, Pearland, Copperas Cove, Smithson Valley, Katy, Cooper, Carter.
Winner- Carroll over Smithson Valley

2003
D1- Midland Lee, Duncanville, Trinity, Tyler Lee, Westlake, North Shore.
Winner- North Shore over The Woodlands

D2- Cooper, Carroll, Abilene, Allen, Garland, Lufkin, Pflugerville, Leander, Pearland, Katy, Smithson Valley, Carter.
Winner- Katy over Carroll

2004
D1- Midland Lee, Trinity, Duncanville, Spring Westfield, North Shore, Pearland, Judson, Tyler Lee, Garland, The Woodlands.
Winner- Tyler Lee over Spring Westfield

D2- Abilene, Carroll, Allen, Mesquite, Copperas Cove, Katy, Lufkin, Pflugerville, Smithson Valley, Westlake, Longview.
Winner- Carroll over Smithson Valley

2005
D1- Midland Lee, Trinity, Mesquite, The Woodlans, Pflugerville, North Shore, Judson, Spring Westfield, Westlake.
Winner- Trinity over Judson

D2- Carroll, Katy, Allen, Plano, Garland, Copperas Cove, Leander, Lufkin, Smithson Valley, Longview, Carter.
Winner- Carroll over Katy

2006
D1- Permian, Carroll, Trinity, Midland Lee, Allen, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, Spring Westfield, Westlake, North Shore, Pearland, The Woodlands.
Winner- Carroll over Westlake

D2- Abilene, Cedar Hill, Garland, longview, Leander, Smithson Valley, Katy, Carter, Cy Falls.
Winner- Chill over Cy Falls

[tjw]

I think your points are all well taken...just think everyone is saying this year more top teams are DI and very few in DII is the piont everyone is making this year.;)

[DrEdward]

I'll say again its not a forgone conclusion that D1 is a stronger division... This has been a myth of sorts among fans of teams that typically play in D1.... In fact it may have to do with the fact that its the bigger schools that play in D1.. So therefore you think because its bigger that it somehow translates to better... In fact you could actually argue that the D2 division tournament has actually had the better teams in it....

If you're aiming at me on this one, I don't disagree. As I pointed out in the quote you cite, in many, if not most past seasons, the D-II segment has proved to be the tougher division. That does not appear to be the case this season.

[SLC]

If you're aiming at me on this one, I don't disagree. As I pointed out in the quote you cite, in many, if not most past seasons, the D-II segment has proved to be the tougher division. That does not appear to be the case this season.


Gotcha Doc.... Had to reread it.. I read to quickly the first time... My bad..:)

Still a guy posted on another thread, the same crap thats thrown out every year.. That the D1 is the only real state champ and all the other stuff... And with my horrible memory and without looking I almost forget the list of outstanding teams that perinialy play in D2... Pretty impressive...

Again, sorry for missreading what you said...;)

[tmcran]

As an Eagle fan I just can't see Abilene as #3. I'm not going to cry about 3-5A teams but ya got play somebody.

[SLC]

As an Eagle fan I just can't see Abilene as #3. I'm not going to cry about 3-5A teams but ya got play somebody.

Typically their competition comes in pre-district and playoff games.. At which they do quite well in both... it's not their fault the other district teams arent that good... Abilene is a quality team year in year out..

[tmcran]

Typically their competition comes in pre-district and playoff games.. At which they do quite well in both... it's not their fault the other district teams arent that good... Abilene is a quality team year in year out..

I agree AHS is a quality team.The coachs and kids do a great job with what they have. But ;3rd just seems high to me. I hope I am proved wrong. We will know a bit more in a couple of weeks.

[AE 8008]

I agree AHS is a quality team.The coachs and kids do a great job with what they have. But ;3rd just seems high to me. I hope I am proved wrong. We will know a bit more in a couple of weeks.

think its been a while since we've been this high...usually stay right around 5-8

[Warbird]

think its been a while since we've been this high...usually stay right around 5-8

We got to #2 in 2004. I think we finished at #6 last year.

[farmerfan]

1. Were the Southlake Carroll Dragaons

2. We could at any time come to life and start killin folk



Also you tie Division 2 to being a weaker division and thats simply not the case...

For this year yes it is. Just by going on the information you listed as to why D2 was stronger from 200-2006, this year shows D1 to be the stronger of the 2
Shore
Trinity
Allen
Plano
Permian
Pearland
The Woodlands and others seem to be stronger than the list of teams you would find in D2.
This will mark the 3rd straight year that the better division will be D1.

[SLC]

For this year yes it is. Just by going on the information you listed as to why D2 was stronger from 200-2006, this year shows D1 to be the stronger of the 2
Shore
Trinity
Allen
Plano
Permian
Pearland
The Woodlands and others seem to be stronger than the list of teams you would find in D2.
This will mark the 3rd straight year that the better division will be D1.


I certainly agree this year is, as well as the last 2... My arguement though misguided at the Doc, was that almost year in and year out you here D1 fans say that the real champ is in D1, they had the tougher tournament, when that has simply not been the case... But there are so many teams that go back and forth between the 2 that alot of times like pre 2000, that the divisions are fairly evenly matched...

[farmerfan]

I certainly agree this year is, as well as the last 2... My arguement though misguided at the Doc, was that almost year in and year out you here D1 fans say that the real champ is in D1, they had the tougher tournament, when that has simply not been the case... But there are so many teams that go back and forth between the 2 that alot of times like pre 2000, that the divisions are fairly evenly matched...

Not since I've been on the board.
When Tyler Lee won in 04 nobody was making that claim as they weren't in 05 when Trinity and its fans had to defend like no team I've ever seen being called champions since the whole state outside of HEB was knocking that title due to the "lack of competition" faced in the playoffs.
In fairness to Katy, they had to hear it last year too in regards to D1 just like Cedar Hill did in 06.
So I strongly disagree with the statement that every year you have fans saying because its D1 that its tougher because that simply has not been the case on a every year basis.

[SLC]

Not since I've been on the board.
When Tyler Lee won in 04 nobody was making that claim as they weren't in 05 when Trinity and its fans had to defend like no team I've ever seen being called champions since the whole state outside of HEB was knocking that title due to the "lack of competition" faced in the playoffs.
In fairness to Katy, they had to hear it last year too in regards to D1 just like Cedar Hill did in 06.
So I strongly disagree with the statement that every year you have fans saying because its D1 that its tougher because that simply has not been the case on a every year basis.

Well maybe its back and forth then... Which is ridiculous in itself because neither is easy... This is the system we have and BOTH teams earn their way to a state championship, that simple...

[tmcran]

Humm, some seem to want to bury the Draggons already. Well, what is that saying about the about the sleeping dogs? I for one don't think pulling the Draggons tail is a good idea.:D

[TheDarkSide15]

D1 was stronger last year, IMO

[trojanbacker]

I'd move Allen up to #1.

And, Arlington Bowie should be in the top 10.

Nice to see Idalou getting some votes....

[tmcran]

After a long day, I'm going to have to read what I type before hitting the submit button. dragon,dragon

[tjw]

I'd move Allen up to #1.
And, Arlington Bowie should be in the top 10.

Nice to see Idalou getting some votes....

Only way that happens if Trinity loses...so do you want to do that?:D

[SLC]

Only way that happens if Trinity loses...so do you want to do that?:D


Seriously... And normally its TT's fans saying be carefull whatcha wish for...:D

[tjw]

Seriously... And normally its TT's fans saying be carefull whatcha wish for...:D

Well had to pull his chain.:D

[tjw]

Wow...Allen makes the National Polls:

USA Today:Allen, Texas, crashed the rankings at No. 16 with a 56-23 rout of then-No. 18 Plano. Allen's only loss was Sept. 19 to No. 2 Trinity (Euless, Texas).
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/poll/2008-super25.htm

19 Allen Allen TX 6-1 33 vs Dallas Jesuit
Stock Rising The Allen Eagles are flying high following their 56-23 win at Plano.
http://highschool.rivals.com/viewrankhs.asp?ra_key=457

I know nothing new for Trinity, SLC and others but a first for Allen breaking the top 20 in both National polls.

[SLC]

Wow...Allen makes the National Polls:

USA Today:Allen, Texas, crashed the rankings at No. 16 with a 56-23 rout of then-No. 18 Plano. Allen's only loss was Sept. 19 to No. 2 Trinity (Euless, Texas).
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/poll/2008-super25.htm

19 Allen Allen TX 6-1 33 vs Dallas Jesuit
Stock Rising The Allen Eagles are flying high following their 56-23 win at Plano.
http://highschool.rivals.com/viewrankhs.asp?ra_key=457

I know nothing new for Trinity, SLC and others but a first for Allen breaking the top 20 in both National polls.


Thats great for them... A well deserved nod to the Allen Football program..;)

[TheScout]

I'll say again its not a forgone conclusion that D1 is a stronger division... This has been a myth of sorts among fans of teams that typically play in D1.... In fact it may have to do with the fact that its the bigger schools that play in D1.. So therefore you think because its bigger that it somehow translates to better... In fact you could actually argue that the D2 division tournament has actually had the better teams in it.... With actually more teams in that division tournament... I went back to the most recent history listed on this site which includes 2000-2006 and just look at some of the name teams that were in each division and you tell me... The only year I could say definitively that D1 was proly better would have been 2006, when its recent past got turned on its head for a season and alot of the D2 teams were in D1... There were several times that teams flip floped between divisions as well.. And most I think would say that sometimes the 2 best teams in the state were in D2.....


2000
D1- Midland Lee, Pearland, Westlake, Judson, The Woodlands, Copperas Cove, Duncanville, Mesquite, Lewisville.
Winner- Midland Lee over Westlake

D2- Plano, Tyler, Lufkin, Allen, Garland, Spring Westfield, Katy, Abilene, North Shore, Pflugerville.
Winner- Katy over Tyler

2001
D1- Midland Lee, Tyler Lee, Pearland, Judson, The Woodlands, Lewisville, Copperas Cove, Duncanville, Mesquite.
Winner- Mesquite over Taft

D2- Trinity, Allen, Longview, Spring Westfield, Plano, Lufkin, Katy, North Shore, Westlake, Leander, Pflugerville, Abilene, Cooper, Carter.
Winner- Lufkin over Westlake

2002
D1- Trinity, Tyler Lee, Judson, The Woodlands, Mesquite, Duncanville, North Shore.
Winner- Judson over Midland

D2- Carroll, Abilene, Allen, Lufkin, Pflugerville, Longview, Leander, Garland, Pearland, Copperas Cove, Smithson Valley, Katy, Cooper, Carter.
Winner- Carroll over Smithson Valley

2003
D1- Midland Lee, Duncanville, Trinity, Tyler Lee, Westlake, North Shore.
Winner- North Shore over The Woodlands

D2- Cooper, Carroll, Abilene, Allen, Garland, Lufkin, Pflugerville, Leander, Pearland, Katy, Smithson Valley, Carter.
Winner- Katy over Carroll

2004
D1- Midland Lee, Trinity, Duncanville, Spring Westfield, North Shore, Pearland, Judson, Tyler Lee, Garland, The Woodlands.
Winner- Tyler Lee over Spring Westfield

D2- Abilene, Carroll, Allen, Mesquite, Copperas Cove, Katy, Lufkin, Pflugerville, Smithson Valley, Westlake, Longview.
Winner- Carroll over Smithson Valley

2005
D1- Midland Lee, Trinity, Mesquite, The Woodlans, Pflugerville, North Shore, Judson, Spring Westfield, Westlake.
Winner- Trinity over Judson

D2- Carroll, Katy, Allen, Plano, Garland, Copperas Cove, Leander, Lufkin, Smithson Valley, Longview, Carter.
Winner- Carroll over Katy

2006
D1- Permian, Carroll, Trinity, Midland Lee, Allen, Lufkin, Tyler Lee, Spring Westfield, Westlake, North Shore, Pearland, The Woodlands.
Winner- Carroll over Westlake

D2- Abilene, Cedar Hill, Garland, longview, Leander, Smithson Valley, Katy, Carter, Cy Falls.
Winner- Chill over Cy Falls

It's funny you say that DIV II is better the years SLC was there, but the one year SLC was in DIV I, you said that it was better....hmm:rolleyes:

[SLC]

It's funny you say that DIV II is better the years SLC was there, but the one year SLC was in DIV I, you said that it was better....hmm:rolleyes:

Not just because Carroll was there that year, but several of the usual suspects that had been in D2, were in D1 that season... I said that in my comments when I wrote the post.... I dont think many will disagree that from 2002 to 2006 Carroll was pretty much the best team in the state those years, though that had nothing to do with my statements.. Just look at the teams I listed for those seasons and you can clearly see that D2 had them covered for 6 years... And D1 the last 2 and now this year..

[farmerfan]

Not just because Carroll was there that year, but several of the usual suspects that had been in D2, were in D1 that season... I said that in my comments when I wrote the post.... I dont think many will disagree that from 2002 to 2006 Carroll was pretty much the best team in the state those years, though that had nothing to do with my statements.. Just look at the teams I listed for those seasons and you can clearly see that D2 had them covered for 6 years... And D1 the last 2 and now this year..

2003 D1 was stronger IMO.

Since 02 I would break it down like this

02 - D2
03 - D1
04 - D2
05 - D2
06 - D1
07 - D1
08 - Most likely D1

[TheScout]

2003 D1 was stronger IMO.

Since 02 I would break it down like this

02 - D2
03 - D1
04 - D2
05 - D2
06 - D1
07 - D1
08 - Most likely D1

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[SLC]

2003 D1 was stronger IMO.

Since 02 I would break it down like this

02 - D2
03 - D1
04 - D2
05 - D2
06 - D1
07 - D1
08 - Most likely D1

I would disagree since to my fuzzy recolection D2 had 6 of the top 10 in the state go D2 that year and it was something like 15 of the top 25...

[DrEdward]

2003 D1 was stronger IMO.

Since 02 I would break it down like this

02 - D2
03 - D1
04 - D2
05 - D2
06 - D1
07 - D1
08 - Most likely D1

That looks about right.

[SaRattlerFan]

You're right.

Don't sweat it, these polls don't mean much.


As far as your question, when was the last time a 5A RGV team beat a SA team, I think it was in 1999, Edinburg beating SA Taft.

But come on, when Los Fresnos scored 14 points in the 1st quarter last year against your Rattlers(3rd round), you weren't a little nervous? And just as an FYI, the QB LF was playing with in the playoff was a backup.

I'll admit that I was a little nervous, but when Reagan scored 7 of the next 8 TD's, my nerves settled down. That game blew Reagan's chances the next week since Marcus Wright tweaked an ankle and then did it again in practice for Judson. He played against Judson, but he wasn't himself.

[TEAMFALCON]

I'll admit that I was a little nervous, but when Reagan scored 7 of the next 8 TD's, my nerves settled down. That game blew Reagan's chances the next week since Marcus Wright tweaked an ankle and then did it again in practice for Judson. He played against Judson, but he wasn't himself.


What an atmosphere last year. December, cool weather, any chance we face each other again?

Falcons will be in the DII bracket this year as opposed to DI like last year.

I doubt we play in Victoria again. We've played there 2 years in a row, in 2006 against Westlake and last year against you all. Coach will say FLIP it.

Here's a pic from the Reagan side looking at the Los Fresnos side.
http://www.teamfalcon.net/sitebuilder/images/Picture_223-442x397.jpg


http://www.teamfalcon.net/2007/Reagan.html

[Kt`86]

What an atmosphere last year. December, cool weather, any chance we face each other again?

Falcons will be in the DII bracket this year as opposed to DI like last year.

I doubt we play in Victoria again. We've played there 2 years in a row, in 2006 against Westlake and last year against you all. Coach will say FLIP it.

Here's a pic from the Reagan side looking at the Los Fresnos side.
http://www.teamfalcon.net/sitebuilder/images/Picture_223-442x397.jpg


http://www.teamfalcon.net/2007/Reagan.html


Are those wooden bleachers? Wow!

[ftballin11]

2003 D1 was stronger IMO.

Since 02 I would break it down like this

02 - D2
03 - D1
04 - D2
05 - D2
06 - D1
07 - D1
08 - Most likely D1

I think it was pretty even in 03' SLC Lufkin and Katy were in D2, I think SLC and Lufkin were Both top 3 at the end of the year and Katy won it.

[SaRattlerFan]

What an atmosphere last year. December, cool weather, any chance we face each other again?

Falcons will be in the DII bracket this year as opposed to DI like last year.

I doubt we play in Victoria again. We've played there 2 years in a row, in 2006 against Westlake and last year against you all. Coach will say FLIP it.

Here's a pic from the Reagan side looking at the Los Fresnos side.
http://www.teamfalcon.net/sitebuilder/images/Picture_223-442x397.jpg


http://www.teamfalcon.net/2007/Reagan.html

Reagan will be DII this year. There is a chance, but getting out of the 1st round may be tough if we draw P-ville.

[ftballin11]

What an atmosphere last year. December, cool weather, any chance we face each other again?

Falcons will be in the DII bracket this year as opposed to DI like last year.

I doubt we play in Victoria again. We've played there 2 years in a row, in 2006 against Westlake and last year against you all. Coach will say FLIP it.

Here's a pic from the Reagan side looking at the Los Fresnos side.
http://www.teamfalcon.net/sitebuilder/images/Picture_223-442x397.jpg


http://www.teamfalcon.net/2007/Reagan.html

Thats not very many fans 2k at most.

[The Original]

Thats at least 1/4th of Pearland's usual home crowd.

[farmerfan]

I think it was pretty even in 03' SLC Lufkin and Katy were in D2, I think SLC and Lufkin were Both top 3 at the end of the year and Katy won it.

Depending on the polls you use. North Shore was number 1 on this site and number 2 in the AP I believe. The Woodlands was top 5 in just about every poll including number 1 in the AP and Arlington Lamar was ranked pretty high too.
Can't remember what Westlake was ranked or even if they were.
SA Central also had a pretty good team that year too.

[TEAMFALCON]

Thats not very many fans 2k at most.

You're kidding me right?

[Tsup]

coppell lost to 4a highland park earlier in the year in another shoot out they need to find some defense before they hit the top tenI'm wondering why SLC is there. I'm thinking Heritage could beat them now. Hebron's new kicking game might make them better now, and Coppell beat them at least once. Granted, seeded in second division they might make some noise in the playoffs, but I just don't see them ranked anymore.

[TEAMFALCON]

Are those wooden bleachers? Wow!


Capacity is 14,000

http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/simages/405.jpg

[TEAMFALCON]

Here is the visitors side for the Falcons in 2006, vs Westlake.

http://www.teamfalcon.net/sitebuilder/images/Picture_0154-593x481.jpg