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rownorserow
10-19-2008, 08:58 AM
The two best defenses in District 7-5A go at it this Friday night. The winner of this game gets the second seed in 8-5A come playoff time (Plano).

Who do you think wins this game?

I'll take DV by 4.

businesstron
10-19-2008, 09:15 AM
Who'd you rather play? Allen or Plano? I don't know too much about SGP outside of the fact they have a good and speedy defense. How's thier offense looking?

I'll take Dville in a close one because I'm a homer and I expect the team to come out thirsty for blood this week. Especially after how they lost last week.

sgp3
10-19-2008, 09:34 AM
I would not compare Dville defense to SGP defense. Here at look at the stats. You are better off comparing offense because DVille offense is a little better then SGP offense. SGP has use three different starting QB this year and there have been some struggle on offense, they have been shutout twice on the season against Richardson Berkner and Cedar HIll, but the defense has kept them in every game except Richardson Berkener 38-0. In the Cedar Hill game the defense only gave up 7 points the offense gave up the other 7. So with that being said SGP defense is the 4 rank defense in the area. And if there is any question about the stats just go to SGP thread they are posted there for the entire 7-5A district.

Team Defense
School Passing Rushing Avg.
South Grand Prairie 665 847 216.0
Duncanville 1186 1268 306.8


The two best defenses in District 7-5A go at it this Friday night. The winner of this game gets the second seed in 8-5A come playoff time (Plano).

Who do you think wins this game?

I'll take DV by 4.

hollywood
10-19-2008, 02:31 PM
Who'd you rather play? Allen or Plano? I don't know too much about SGP outside of the fact they have a good and speedy defense. How's thier offense looking?

I'll take Dville in a close one because I'm a homer and I expect the team to come out thirsty for blood this week. Especially after how they lost last week.

I thought we wanted to play Allen. Now I prefer Plano. A kick in the face or one in the nads? Tough choice. We will have to go for the block. Plano did show they can lose. I was at the Trinity vs. Allen game. Have not actually seen Plano this year. I do know Burkhead is a major load.

All this said, we take what comes. DV and SGP will be in the playoffs facing a top tier team. I hope to be able to see both games in TS. I will be cheering for 7-5A all the way.

This game is for more than seeding. Hoping this is a good hard fought and in your face game and that both teams come out healthy.

DV is at home and came off a tough loss. Both these are an advantage in this game IMHO. I am going with SGP in a close one. The only thing I am sure of is that both teams will be playing all out. It should be a very physical game.

The Warrior
10-19-2008, 04:25 PM
If we get pressure for the front 3 like last game, it's the same type of 21-7 game, but i'm hoping for more out of the SGP offense this week. If DV doesn't tighten up the punt team, we will get a couple blocks that change the game.

SGP 24
DV 17

sgp3
10-19-2008, 05:01 PM
CLASS 5A
ON THE RISE:
No. 7 Garland climbed four spots after beating then-No. 17 Rowlett, 17-10. Garland has collected 11 turnovers in four games against District 10-5A teams.

Rk. Team W-L Pts Pvs.
1. Euless Trinity (7) 7-0 140 1
2. Allen 6-1 133 3
3. Coll. Heritage 6-1 120 5
4. Plano 7-1 114 2
5. Wylie 7-1 107 4
6. Arl. Bowie 6-1 103 6
7. Garland 8-0 98 11
8. SL Carroll 5-1 95 7
9. Carr. Creekview 7-0 94 9
10. Skyline 6-1 67 10
11. Gar. N. Forest 6-2* 59 12
12. Cedar Hill 6-1 57 13
13. Coppell 5-2 54 8
14. Lake Highlands 5-2 47 16
T15. Richland 7-0 46 15
T15. Hebron 4-3 46 T19
17. Flower Mound 6-1 39 14
18. Keller 6-1 21 NR
19. S. Grand Prairie 5-2 17 18
20. Rowlett 4-3 6 17
*Naaman Forest forfeited one game for using an ineligible player.

Dropped out: No. T19 Mesquite

CedarHillDad
10-19-2008, 05:15 PM
I will take Duncanville big in this one. Great Coaches, and they have a hunger on that team. If they come out like they did last week against us it will be a long night for SGP.

sgp3
10-19-2008, 05:38 PM
WOW! I guess you think SGP is going to come out flat against Dville.:rolleyes:
Just ask the Irving QB how flat SGP defense came out on Friday evening. And belive me when say SGP defense will be very well prepare for Dville.

I will take Duncanville big in this one. Great Coaches, and they have a hunger on that team. If they come out like they did last week against us it will be a long night for SGP.

CedarHillDad
10-19-2008, 05:42 PM
WOW! I guess you think SGP is going to come out flat against Dville.:rolleyes:
Just ask the Irving QB how he felt Saturday morning after SGP defense hit him all night long on Friday evening. And belive me when say SGP defense will be very well prepare for Dville.

Did I say SGP will come out flat? I said I am taking Duncanville. I think they are the better TEAM. :cool:

sgp3
10-19-2008, 05:46 PM
But SGP is the better football team:D
QUOTE=CedarHillDad;936808]Did I say SGP will come out flat? I said I am taking Duncanville. I think they are the better TEAM. :cool:[/QUOTE]

CedarHillDad
10-19-2008, 05:50 PM
But SGP is the better football team:D

that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I disagree

sgp3
10-19-2008, 05:57 PM
And that is your as well Sir. And I disagree with you as well.
QUOTE=CedarHillDad;936827]that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I disagree[/QUOTE]

CedarHillDad
10-19-2008, 05:59 PM
And that is your as well Sir. And I disagree with you as well.

ok

The Warrior
10-19-2008, 06:49 PM
I will take Duncanville big in this one. Great Coaches, and they have a hunger on that team. If they come out like they did last week against us it will be a long night for SGP.

We have been picked to lose every game except nimitz, so it's nothing new to us. But were not 1-6, were 5-2, so here we go again. I thought you would respect our defense a little more, but maybe you don't think we can score. Irving put up 24 on CH, but only a late 7 on SGP. The defense is stout for sure.We can win this with a good defensive effort and a few big plays.

CedarHillDad
10-19-2008, 07:32 PM
We have been picked to lose every game except nimitz, so it's nothing new to us. But were not 1-6, were 5-2, so here we go again. I thought you would respect our defense a little more, but maybe you don't think we can score. Irving put up 24 on CH, but only a late 7 on SGP. The defense is stout for sure.We can win this with a good defensive effort and a few big plays.

Actually your defense is great. I just think Duncanville's offense can score quickly from numerus weapons. I know our game was a rivalry game and it does not properly correlate with the game Chill had against SGP, but D'ville had tremendous energy and I thought overall they were better in 3 phases (Coaching, Offense, and Defense) against us, they lost the game because of special teams and officiating. When we played SGP it was the worse play-calling of the year. We basically ran 5 plays all night and still overcame that.

Again my opinion of this game has nothing to do with SGP I just think if D'ville comes out like they did against Chill they will win big.

hollywood
10-19-2008, 08:55 PM
Actually your defense is great. I just think Duncanville's offense can score quickly from numerus weapons. I know our game was a rivalry game and it does not properly correlate with the game Chill had against SGP, but D'ville had tremendous energy and I thought overall they were better in 3 phases (Coaching, Offense, and Defense) against us, they lost the game because of special teams and officiating. When we played SGP it was the worse play-calling of the year. We basically ran 5 plays all night and still overcame that.

Again my opinion of this game has nothing to do with SGP I just think if D'ville comes out like they did against Chill they will win big.

I see no problems with your position or your logic. I for one take this as an honest assessment from someone who has seen both teams play their own. I hope I do not allow myself to get caught up in the hype of this game this week. I am quite ready for the game to be played already. I have stated before that I think it is best for SGP to come in as an under dog anyway. It sets the tone for a defensive team I think.

The Bear
10-19-2008, 10:20 PM
I take Duncanville in this one.
21 to 7

Robber89
10-19-2008, 10:25 PM
I could be wrong, but I am going with Duncanville in this one. I think Duncanville is a better overall team. SGP's defense is great, but the offense is not very good at all.

sgp3
10-19-2008, 11:14 PM
And why do you think Cedar Hill ran only 5 plays on SGP? Let me tell you why because nothing else you guys ran work against SGP defense. You can blame play calling are whatever SGP defense is stout this defense has a total of 9 D-1 players on it give or take so keep sleeping on it. SGP defense makes other offense turn there strong points into weakness, you have no idea about SGP defense but ask your OC at Cedar Hill he was going crazy up there in the press box trying to figure out how to just run the ball against SGP. Dville OC is going to see the same thing this week. I would not be surprise if Dville OC has some sleepness nights this week just thinking about how he going to move the ball against THE #4 RANK DEFENSE IN THE AREA!





Actually your defense is great. I just think Duncanville's offense can score quickly from numerus weapons. I know our game was a rivalry game and it does not properly correlate with the game Chill had against SGP, but D'ville had tremendous energy and I thought overall they were better in 3 phases (Coaching, Offense, and Defense) against us, they lost the game because of special teams and officiating. When we played SGP it was the worse play-calling of the year. We basically ran 5 plays all night and still overcame that.

Again my opinion of this game has nothing to do with SGP I just think if D'ville comes out like they did against Chill they will win big.

sgp3
10-19-2008, 11:17 PM
You act like SGP is not going to come out ready to play. And having a lot of engery don't win games and SGP knows that from playing Richardson Bernker in the first game. All that pre-game hype mean nothing because once you on that field you have to play the game.
Actually your defense is great. I just think Duncanville's offense can score quickly from numerus weapons. I know our game was a rivalry game and it does not properly correlate with the game Chill had against SGP, but D'ville had tremendous energy and I thought overall they were better in 3 phases (Coaching, Offense, and Defense) against us, they lost the game because of special teams and officiating. When we played SGP it was the worse play-calling of the year. We basically ran 5 plays all night and still overcame that.

Again my opinion of this game has nothing to do with SGP I just think if D'ville comes out like they did against Chill they will win big.

sgp3
10-19-2008, 11:19 PM
No the offense is not very good but the defense put the offense in position to score easy touchdown. So it a team effort just ask Irving QB how hard SGP defense hits they bring it every down there out there. So Dville QB think he going to have time roll out and throw like he did against Cedar Hill I doubt it very seriously. Dville QB might want to put a call into the Irving QB and ask him about friday night game.
I could be wrong, but I am going with Duncanville in this one. I think Duncanville is a better overall team. SGP's defense is great, but the offense is not very good at all.

hollywood
10-19-2008, 11:40 PM
And why do you think Cedar Hill ran only 5 plays on SGP? Let me tell you why because nothing else you guys ran work against SGP defense. You can blame play calling are whatever SGP defense is stout this defense has a total of 9 D-1 players on it give or take so keep sleeping on it. SGP defense makes other offense turn there strong points into weakness, you have no idea about SGP defense but ask your OC at Cedar Hill he was going crazy up there in the press box trying to figure out how to just run the ball against SGP. Dville OC is going to see the same thing this week. I would not be surprise if Dville OC has some sleepness nights this week just thinking about how he going to move the ball against THE #4 RANK DEFENSE IN THE AREA!

I think they know all of this. There comes a time when you just need to buckle up and decide things on the field. The logic I am hearing is "just because". Certainly if they are able to roll over us early like they did CHILL they should win big. duh! You are going to be even more upset when SGP does win, and one or more folks, still insist they are the better team ... just because. Folks have their opinions.

Another thing to consider is that top tier teams like Trinity can beat you in many ways. They have a great defense. But if the defense does have a bad quarter due to any number of reasons, then their offense can make up for it. One phase picks up another. They have a lot of balance this year. There is strength in that. So it can be the all else equal deal, in a tight contest go with the team that has multiple ways to win. It does not mean that they will. I am not comparing DV to Trinity. DV does show more of a balance between their offense and defense like Trinity does. That said, the SGP D is more like the Trinity D than DVs defensive unit. DVs defense has the easier job in this case.

I suggest we talk about global warming, drilling in Alaska and maybe Iraq just to keep things on an even keel.

Now if folks are still looking for bulliten board material, have at it. Again, lets load the buses up and square off.

sgp3
10-19-2008, 11:42 PM
I know that right with how bad SGP offense is we should be 0-7;) and not
5-2. :rolleyes: But oh I forgot SGP has the best defense in 7-5A and the 4 rank defense in the area and are pretty good on special team. Just ask Dville about there special team:D


We have been picked to lose every game except nimitz, so it's nothing new to us. But were not 1-6, were 5-2, so here we go again. I thought you would respect our defense a little more, but maybe you don't think we can score. Irving put up 24 on CH, but only a late 7 on SGP. The defense is stout for sure.We can win this with a good defensive effort and a few big plays.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 06:35 AM
And why do you think Cedar Hill ran only 5 plays on SGP? Let me tell you why because nothing else you guys ran work against SGP defense. You can blame play calling are whatever SGP defense is stout this defense has a total of 9 D-1 players on it give or take so keep sleeping on it. SGP defense makes other offense turn there strong points into weakness, you have no idea about SGP defense but ask your OC at Cedar Hill he was going crazy up there in the press box trying to figure out how to just run the ball against SGP. Dville OC is going to see the same thing this week. I would not be surprise if Dville OC has some sleepness nights this week just thinking about how he going to move the ball against THE #4 RANK DEFENSE IN THE AREA!

You act like SGP is not going to come out ready to play. And having a lot of engery don't win games and SGP knows that from playing Richardson Bernker in the first game. All that pre-game hype mean nothing because once you on that field you have to play the game.

you need to calm down. Someone makes a prediction and you just go nuts. It is my opinion, I have no stake in this game at all so why do you even care. btw I do know about SGP's defense I was at the game remember, and the OC was going crazy because he refused to throw the ball, again that is my opinion...

sgp3
10-20-2008, 07:59 AM
So why do you think your OC refuse to throw the ball? Because he knew what would happen. But at the end of the day Cedar Hill won. But moving on to Dville game SGP will show up ready to play against them.
you need to calm down. Someone makes a prediction and you just go nuts. It is my opinion, I have no stake in this game at all so why do you even care. btw I do know about SGP's defense I was at the game remember, and the OC was going crazy because he refused to throw the ball, again that is my opinion...

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 08:02 AM
So why do you think your OC refuse to throw the ball? Because he knew what would happen. But at the end of the day Cedar Hill won. But moving on to Dville game SGP will show up ready to play against them.

that is a question that entire fan base wants to know. your answer is incorrect.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 08:14 AM
Maybe the OC did not trust the young QB enough to throw the ball against a good defense like SGP.
QUOTE=CedarHillDad;937884]that is a question that entire fan base wants to know. your answer is incorrect.[/QUOTE]

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 08:27 AM
Maybe the OC did not trust the young QB enough to throw the ball against a good defense like SGP.

don't think so... He can throw the ball and we have a very talented group of receivers. anyway Duncanville will throw it, and they do it well

sgp3
10-20-2008, 08:48 AM
But everyone throws the ball well until they play SGP defense I thought you knew that.
don't think so... He can throw the ball and we have a very talented group of receivers. anyway Duncanville will throw it, and they do it well

Robber89
10-20-2008, 08:49 AM
don't think so... He can throw the ball and we have a very talented group of receivers. anyway Duncanville will throw it, and they do it well

But can they catch it?:rolleyes:

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 08:52 AM
But can they catch it?:rolleyes:

if you throw it more than 8 times a game they might...

Robber89
10-20-2008, 08:56 AM
if you throw it more than 8 times a game they might...

You got me. :notworthy

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 09:00 AM
back to D'ville and SGP. I think this will be a good game, I am anxious to see how coach Dicus gets his team motivated after a tough loss.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 09:03 AM
Hmm if Dville throws it I am sure SGP DB's will catch it for them:)
But can they catch it?:rolleyes:

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 09:11 AM
that is a question that entire fan base wants to know. your answer is incorrect.
Seems to me the OC doesn't throw because of last of confidence in the young QB, he just doesn't look comfortable throwing the ball in a game. CHILL will have to improve that aspect of the game if they want to make a good run in the playoffs. CHILL is very good running team:notworthy

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 09:17 AM
(1)Seems to me the OC doesn't throw because of lost of confidence in the young QB, he just doesn't look comfortable throwing the ball in a game. (2)CHILL will have to improve that aspect of the game if they want to make a good run in the playoffs. CHILL is very good running team:notworthy

(1) I will not comment b/c I do not believe that to be true
(2) spot on!! and we have to do it now or we will be done quickly in the playoffs. little known fact we averaged 120 passing yards a game during the State title run.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 09:17 AM
Hmm if Dville throws it I am sure SGP DB's will catch it for them:)

HA HA HA... we will see

The Bear
10-20-2008, 09:18 AM
Hmm if Dville throws it I am sure SGP DB's will catch it for them:)

It not if, It's when they throw the ball I hope the DB's are ready

sgp3
10-20-2008, 09:21 AM
And that was then and this is now:rolleyes: If we all could go back two years ago SGP had one of the best QB in the area.
(1) I will not comment b/c I do not believe that to be true
(2) spot on!! and we have to do it now or we will be done quickly in the playoffs. little known fact we averaged 120 passing yards a game during the State title run.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 09:23 AM
They will be ready when he throws the ball are should I say if he has time to throw the ball. Just ask the Irving QB how much time he had to throw against SGP defense.
It not if, It's when they throw the ball I hope the DB's are ready

The Bear
10-20-2008, 09:26 AM
Seems to me the OC doesn't throw because of last of confidence in the young QB, he just doesn't look comfortable throwing the ball in a game. CHILL will have to improve that aspect of the game if they want to make a good run in the playoffs. CHILL is very good running team:notworthy


He has a lot of confidence for been a young QB and he can throw the ball. The word is Trust.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 09:28 AM
Yes we will as SGP DB's say DON"T WORRY WE GOT YOU COVER!:notworthy
HA HA HA... we will see

sgp3
10-20-2008, 09:29 AM
Well until the OC TRUST him Cedar Hill will be running.
He has a lot of confidence for been a young QB and he can throw the ball. The word is Trust.

The Bear
10-20-2008, 09:31 AM
Well until the OC TRUST him Cedar Hill will be running.


Agree, You know that, I know that, Everybody Knows that!!!.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 09:46 AM
Agree, You know that, I know that, Everybody Knows that!!!.

isn't that the truth...

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 09:47 AM
Yes we will as SGP DB's say DON"T WORRY WE GOT YOU COVERED!:notworthy

fify:cool:

I can't wait to see the stats friday night.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Stats don't always tell the truth about a game, because there always going to be some hidden yardage in there. But don't worry SGP defense will show up like they always do and if we can get a solid game from our offense we will be just fine. Because if Dville special team don't improve they are in big trouble for real.
fify:cool:

I can't wait to see the stats friday night.

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 10:53 AM
(1) I will not comment b/c I do not believe that to be true
(2) spot on!! and we have to do it now or we will be done quickly in the playoffs. little known fact we averaged 120 passing yards a game during the State title run.

The QB that year was something special, he also had 15-20 TD passes didn't he, to go along with a zillion yards rushing, and many TD's.
The young QB has long way to go to reach "that" level of play. If he get to 3/4 of Cole's level, and CH has a decent Defense, you win state next year.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:14 AM
The QB that year was something special, he also had 15-20 TD passes didn't he, to go along with a zillion yards rushing, and many TD's.
The young QB has long way to go to reach "that" level of play. If he get to 3/4 of Cole's level, and CH has a decent Defense, you win state next year.

:(:mad::(

hollywood
10-20-2008, 11:39 AM
I am hearing both sides of the discussion about why CHILL did or did not pass against SGP. I will not change anybody's minds. But ... CHILL would probably have had more yardage against SGP with passing. Passing would have put the game in serious jeopardy however for them. They were confident that SGP was not going to be able to score on offense if CHILL played the field position game. I was willing to concede that SGP got outcoached and that CHILL used the two weeks of prep to do this. However, it sounds like it was the other way around. Who new?

The bottom line is that CHILL chose not to pass against SGP. It probably won them the game. Did it allow SGP to hold the CHILL offense to a single score? Likely. But again, they won the game doing this. There could have been additional CHILL turnovers or at least accept that the they would have increased the risk of such turnovers, which would have given SGP a chance to win. The CHILL offense has been throttled twice this year by very good defenses. The difference is that Trinity has a top tier offense to go with their D.

I am hearing that CHILL fans are just saying they would like to add a passing attack to their game. Now I do understand that. I saw Trinity adding a passing attack early last year with their new QB. They went through some roughness, hung with it and have just kept improving.

CHILL beat SGP straight up no questions. The CHILL defense outplayed the SGP offense to a greater extent than the SGP D outplayed the CHILL offense. But for sure that is what happened. The CHILL offense put up 7. The SGP offense was shut out. The CHILL D put up 7. Good win for CHILL. I am hearing a little bit of what I was talking about earlier. You know the kibitzing after a game. Like coulda, woulda, shoulda ... Or the penalty thing.

I think whether CHILL folks realizie it or not they would like to see DV roll, because that would in their minds mean that, they are somehow that much better than SGP. That they really were held back from proving that when they played SGP. It would seem like a second shot at SGP with no risk. That is for the fans to look inside for themselves and decide. This will be denied and I am fine with that. Just make sure you convince yourselves. DV could win by fifty and it would not change any of the games that have been played so far. Maybe it will make some folks feel better. A tad more superior. Good luclk with that. Whatever works.

The score comparison thing just does not work. Allen lost to Trinity and then doubled up on Plano. That does not mean that if and when Trinty plays Plano, that Trinity will put a lot of points on Plano. Does not mean they will not either. Each game is its own. This is why you don't hear me mentioning any scores for previous games other than the one SGP was in. Berkner beat SGP 38-0 in zero week. Berkner therefore is almost three times better than CHILL I guess. .... No.

I am hearing from both CHILL and DV that DV just might be a better team than CHILL. That somehow the breaks went CHILL's way and they got lucky and won. I can accept that. On that day however, CHILL was the better team. But you all have convinced me that the best team in 7-5A just might be the team that finishes second or third. Works for me. They are the best team.

I think no matter what the score is this week, and who ever wins we are going to hear, but DV is the better team. I am cool with that too. You will not hear that from the SGP folks. Now, if the SGP D plays well this week, you will hear that. We are proud of our defense.
I concede that SGP will be facing the best offense that they have faced all year. This is why I have been saying that this is indeed a big test. It is possible that DV with have one single play and have almost as many rushing yards as CHILL did.

So good luck to CHILL, ummm I mean Duncaville this week. I believe you got a great player back last week that makes you better then you were. I have no doubt that the SGP coaching staff knows what they are up against. I do expect they will make the trip just the same and do their best to beat one of the top tier teams in 5A. Win or lose it better prepares SGP for the remaining schedule and the first round. If DV wins big we can setup a poll to ask folks who really is the best team in 7-5A.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 11:41 AM
you need to calm down. Someone makes a prediction and you just go nuts. It is my opinion, I have no stake in this game at all so why do you even care. btw I do know about SGP's defense I was at the game remember, and the OC was going crazy because he refused to throw the ball, again that is my opinion...

He gets upset, because he sees it as a lack of respect. Some folks are like that.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:43 AM
I am hearing both sides of the discussion ...

If SGP wins Friday, that means they are better than D'ville. I will happily eat my plate of crow if that happens.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:45 AM
He gets upset, because he sees it as a lack of respect. Some folks are like that.
:confused:
hmmm that's funny. I never said a bad thing about SGP as a matter of fact I said nothing but positive things.(except I think they will not win friday)

sgp3
10-20-2008, 11:45 AM
I love you Hollywood!:notworthy
I am hearing both sides of the discussion about why CHILL did or did not pass against SGP. I will not change anybody's minds. But ... CHILL would probably have had more yardage against SGP with passing. Passing would have put the game in serious jeopardy however for them. They were confident that SGP was not going to be able to score on offense if CHILL played the field position game. I was willing to concede that SGP got outcoached and that CHILL used the two weeks of prep to do this. However, it sounds like it was the other way around. Who new?

The bottom line is that CHILL chose not to pass against SGP. It probably won them the game. Did it allow SGP to hold the CHILL offense to a single score? Likely. But again, they won the game doing this. There could have been additional CHILL turnovers or at least accept that the they would have increased the risk of such turnovers, which would have given SGP a chance to win. The CHILL offense has been throttled twice this year by very good defenses. The difference is that Trinity has a top tier offense to go with their D.

I am hearing that CHILL fans are just saying they would like to add a passing attack to their game. Now I do understand that. I saw Trinity adding a passing attack early last year with their new QB. They went through some roughness, hung with it and have just kept improving.

CHILL beat SGP straight up no questions. The CHILL defense outplayed the SGP offense to a greater extent than the SGP D outplayed the CHILL offense. But for sure that is what happened. The CHILL offense put up 7. The SGP offense was shut out. The CHILL D put up 7. Good win for CHILL. I am hearing a little bit of what I was talking about earlier. You know the kibitzing after a game. Like coulda, woulda, shoulda ... Or the penalty thing.

I think whether CHILL folks realizie it or not they would like to see DV roll, because that would in their minds mean that, they are somehow that much better than SGP. That they really were held back from proving that when they played SGP. It would seem like a second shot at SGP with no risk. That is for the fans to look inside for themselves and decide. This will be denied and I am fine with that. Just make sure you convince yourselves. DV could win by fifty and it would not change any of the games that have been played so far. Maybe it will make some folks feel better. A tad more superior. Good luclk with that. Whatever works.

The score comparison thing just does not work. Allen lost to Trinity and then doubled up on Plano. That does not mean that if and when Trinty plays Plano, that Trinity will put a lot of points on Plano. Does not mean they will not either. Each game is its own. This is why you don't hear me mentioning any scores for previous games other than the one SGP was in. Berkner beat SGP 38-0 in zero week. Berkner therefore is almost three times better than CHILL I guess. .... No.

I am hearing from both CHILL and DV that DV just might be a better team than CHILL. That somehow the breaks went CHILL's way and they got lucky and won. I can accept that. On that day however, CHILL was the better team. But you all have convinced me that the best team in 7-5A just might be the team that finishes second or third. Works for me. They are the best team.

I think no matter what the score is this week, and who ever wins we are going to hear, but DV is the better team. I am cool with that too. You will not hear that from the SGP folks. Now, if the SGP D plays well this week, you will hear that. We are proud of our defense.
I concede that SGP will be facing the best offense that they have faced all year. This is why I have been saying that this is indeed a big test. It is possible that DV with have one single play and have almost as many rushing yards as CHILL did.

So good luck to CHILL, ummm I mean Duncaville this week. I believe you got a great player back last week that makes you better then you were. I have no doubt that the SGP coaching staff knows what they are up against. I do expect they will make the trip just the same and do their best to beat one of the top tier teams in 5A. Win or lose it better prepares SGP for the remaining schedule and the first round. If DV wins big we can setup a poll to ask folks who really is the best team in 7-5A.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 11:45 AM
that is a question that entire fan base wants to know. your answer is incorrect.

It is because they did not want to embarass SGP. That is it. Yes, I am sure. Otherwise why would SGP be able to hang with this years eventual D2 champion. It just does not add up. I agree.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 11:46 AM
So how would you like that crow prepare for you?
If SGP wins Friday, that means they are better than D'ville. I will happily eat my plate of crow if that happens.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:46 AM
It is because they did not want to embarass SGP. That is it. Yes, I am sure. Otherwise why would SGP be able to hang with this years eventual D2 champion. It just does not add up. I agree.

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:47 AM
So how would you like that crow prepare for you?

If you win I know how to prepare my own plate. The same goes for you when you lose.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Hey I think Cedar Hill better be getting ready for Irving Mac.
:confused:
hmmm that's funny. I never said a bad thing about SGP as a matter of fact I said nothing but positive things.(except I think they will not win friday)

sgp3
10-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Well since SGP will not lose this week I don't have to worry about that.:D
If you win I know how to prepare my own plate. The same goes for you when you lose.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 11:50 AM
:confused:
hmmm that's funny. I never said a bad thing about SGP as a matter of fact I said nothing but positive things.(except I think they will not win friday)

Sometimes we offend or disrespect each other without even knowing it. From his point of view he feels that SGP should get more respect because of their defense.

I am hearing from you that while SGP was able to throttle CHILL who for whatever reasons kept it on the ground that DV has a more balanced and prolific offense and therefore can put up some numbers. I concede that myself. SGP focused on the run against CHILL. They focused on the pass against Irving. DV can run and pass. That is a bigger challenge. I agree. I don't have a son who starts on the SGP D. Otherwise I might feel the same as he. I honestly do not know what will happen this week. Could be one helluva game. SGP3 hears that the defense is great but that DV will put up some big numbers. They might. I am not betting on that, but they might. Stuff happens.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:52 AM
Sometimes we offend or disrespect each other without even knowing it. From his point of view he feels that SGP should get more respect because of their defense.

I am hearing from you that while SGP was able to throttle CHILL who for whatever reasons kept it on the ground that DV has a more balanced and prolific offense and therefore can put up some numbers. I concede that myself. SGP focused on the run against CHILL. They focused on the pass against Irving. DV can run and pass. That is a bigger challenge. I agree. I don;t have a son who starts on the SGP D. Otherwise I might feel the same as he. I honestly do not know what will happen this week. Could be one helluva game.

exactly.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:53 AM
Hey I think Cedar Hill better be getting ready for Irving Mac.


I am sure they are. I will not be there, this will be the 3rd time ever that I will miss one of his games.:(

sgp3
10-20-2008, 11:54 AM
The only numbers that mean something is the one on the score board at the end of the game:)

exactly.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 11:55 AM
Well sorry to hear that. But I hoping Mac beats Cedar Hill.
I am sure they are. I will not be there, this will be the 3rd time ever that I will miss one of his games.:(

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 11:57 AM
Well sorry to hear that. But I am hoping Mac beats Cedar Hill.

fify

I already knew that.:rolleyes:

hollywood
10-20-2008, 11:58 AM
It not if, It's when they throw the ball I hope the DB's are ready

I think that DV throwing does two things.

1) Increase greatly the possibility of DV racking up yards and points.

2) Increases the possibility of SGP winning at all.

They are not mutually exclusive. It is a risk versus rewards thing. Put the ball up where SGP can get a possible turnover and they have a better chance of winning. Stay on the ground and grind out a win.
There is more control with that. Lower scoring overall for everyone. Less time in the game. Why give the SGP D a chance to win the game. Go dominate the SGP offense and don't risk field position. I do bet DV plays this game wide open. Because they can.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:11 PM
All that is true but I don't think DV will have a chance if they are passing the ball a lot against SGP defense.
I think that DV throwing does two things.

1) Increase greatly the possibility of DV racking up yards and points.

2) Increases the possibility of SGP winning at all.

They are not mutually exclusive. It is a risk versus rewards thing. Put the ball up where SGP can get a possible turnover and they have a better chance of winning. Stay on the ground and grind out a win.
There is more control with that. Lower scoring overall for everyone. Less time in the game. Why give the SGP D a chance to win the game. Go dominate the SGP offense and don't risk field position. I do bet DV plays this game wide open. Because they can.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 12:22 PM
back to D'ville and SGP. I think this will be a good game, I am anxious to see how coach Dicus gets his team motivated after a tough loss.

Hmmmm. Yes I agree that is on the table. They should be real fired up. I wonder how Davies will will respond as well to losing to CHILL and beating Irving. Ooops. No one cares. I understand the hoopla over Dicus. I am sure that he will be able to turn the DV program around. He already has. They are going to the playoffs this year. He makes $120,000 so he is one of the highest paid Coaches around. He did some great things with Lake Travis and I am sure is worth every penny and will get DV there. I do think coaching at the high school level is a huge factor. Maybe the biggest factor in a successful program. Coaches will tell you though that they need the horses to win. Parents and fans like to think when they lose that it is not the players but that all they need is a great coach. I understand that DV did not like their previous coach. Some wanted a coach that fit the culture of their team. However, they rightly should be happy that they have a top notch coach this time.

I think he needs to find the game ball for the last game and bury it. Like Texas did but for the opposite reason.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Hmmmm. Yes I agree that is on the table. They should be real fired up. I wonder how Davies will will respond as well to losing to CHILL and beating Irving. Ooops. No one cares. I understand the hoopla over Dicus. I am sure that he will be able to turn the DV program around. He already has. They are going to the playoffs this year. He makes $120,000 so he is one of the highest paid Coaches around. He did some great things with Lake Travis and I am sure is worth every penny and will get DV there. I do think coaching at the high school level is a huge factor. Maybe the biggest factor in a successful program. Coaches will tell you though that they need the horses to win. Parents and fans like to think when they lose that it is not the players but that all they need is a great coach. I understand that DV did not like their previous coach. Some wanted a coach that fit the culture of their team. However, they rightly should be happy that they have a top notch coach this time.

I think he needs to find the game ball for the last game and bury it. Like Texas did but for the opposite reason.

:eek: WOW!!! where do I sign up?!:D

tjw
10-20-2008, 12:26 PM
Can hardly wait to see who wins this one. Like to know for sure SGP is our first round opponent or not.:D

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:29 PM
No DV will be your first round opponent because SGP will be DV this week.
Can hardly wait to see who wins this one. Like to know for sure SGP is our first round opponent or not.:D

hollywood
10-20-2008, 12:29 PM
He has a lot of confidence for been a young QB and he can throw the ball. The word is Trust.

I hope it is not a trust issue as much it is about the risk. I know that sounds like the same thing, but there is a subtle difference at least. I don't know about other games, but to win district CHILL had to focus on nailing down wins against SGP and then DV. Sure other games can bite you. But you can have a bit more risk in those games. Risk where you prepare your QB for the future.

QBs are extremely important. The great ones are a rare commodity. If either CHILL or SGP had a great dual threat QB they would have a better chance at a deeper run in the playoffs. Allen has such a player. So does Trinity.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 12:32 PM
fify:cool:

I can't wait to see the stats friday night.

I can't believe he left the "D" out of covered. SGP better not leave the D out this week is all I have to say.

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:32 PM
Can hardly wait to see who wins this one. Like to know for sure SGP is our first round opponent or not.:D


Count on it. I have a friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that DV is better than both SGP and Irving. Barring another special teams breakdown, which hasn't happened but once this year, Duncanville will be playing Plano and Allen will be playing SGP.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 12:33 PM
I hope it is not a trust issue as much it is about the risk. I know that sounds like the same thing, but there is a subtle difference at least. I don't know about other games, but to win district CHILL had to focus on nailing down wins against SGP and then DV. Sure other games can bite you. But you can have a bit more risk in those games. Risk where you prepare your QB for the future.

QBs are extremely important. The great ones are a rare commodity. If either CHILL or SGP had a great dual threat QB they would have a better chance at a deeper run in the playoffs. Allen has such a player. So does Trinity.

I think we have one as well, he is just not being prepared for the future. IMHO. Ok I am done with b:Censor:ing about what we need to do. At least I got some of out, I can breathe now.

Good luck on Friday Panthers and Warriors.:D

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 12:34 PM
I can't believe he left the "D" out of covered. SGP better not leave the D out this week is all I have to say.

truer words have never been spoken..

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:35 PM
I have a close friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that SGP is better then both DV and Irving.:ninja:
Count on it. I have a friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that DV is better than both SGP and Irving. Barring another special teams breakdown, which hasn't happened but once this year, Duncanville will be playing Plano and Allen will be playing SGP.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 12:37 PM
I have a close friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that SGP is better then both DV and Irving.:ninja:

He Lied to you!!!:D

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:37 PM
I have a close friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that SGP is better then both DV and Irving.:ninja:


I'm pretty sure you don't have any friends! :D

tjw
10-20-2008, 12:37 PM
No DV will be your first round opponent because SGP will be DV this week.

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_pl...ections_08.htm has SGP but that is because DV is 3-1 and SGP is 2-1 in district so depends on who is lower in district to whom we play.

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:39 PM
Cedar Hill Dad has seen both teams play. I believe he can give an accurate assessment of both teams. You'll see for yourself Friday night. Oh...and thank you for putting a target on your son! You're not too bright....

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:40 PM
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_pl...ections_08.htm has SGP but that is because DV is 3-1 and SGP is 2-1 in district so depends on who is lower in district to whom we play.


Exactly. The loser of Friday night's game will play you in three weeks.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:40 PM
And that will be DV.
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_pl...ections_08.htm has SGP but that is because DV is 3-1 and SGP is 2-1 in district so depends on who is lower in district to whom we play.

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:41 PM
And that will be DV.

We'll see....

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:43 PM
And what target is that? Everyone that has play SGP knows where #3 line up on the field and belive me when I say he ain't scare. And oh by the way we like DV so much he workout at the DAC right there in DV.:D
Cedar Hill Dad has seen both teams play. I believe he can give an accurate assessment of both teams. You'll see for yourself Friday night. Oh...and thank you for putting a target on your son! You're not too bright....

businesstron
10-20-2008, 12:44 PM
I can understand where CedarHillDad is coming from. Duncanville is a very dangerous team. If they don't point that machine gun at they feet and let it rip friday that game would've been a closer game that could've ended with Dville winning.

I don't think SGP's offense is that good at this point to put points on Dville's defense.

Both of the teams have'nt beat anyone good. SGP's best win is against Justin Northwest(who is 4-3) and Duncanivlle's best win is against Desoto (who is 3-4).

Duncaville lost to it's two best opponents( record wise Permian and Garland) by a total of 9 points and SGP's lost to it's two best opponents(Berkner and Chill) by 52 points..and they didn't score a touchdown in either game.

So my money's with Duncanville I think they are a better team then Grand Prarie right now.

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:44 PM
And what target is that? Everyone that has play SGP knows where #3 line up on the field and belive me when I say he ain't scare. And oh by the way we like DV so much he workout at the DAC right there in DV.:D

Good for him. Does he plan on playing college ball anywhere?

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:46 PM
I can understand where CedarHillDad is coming from. Duncanville is a very dangerous team. If they don't point that machine gun at they feet and let it rip friday that game would've been a closer game that could've ended with Dville winning.

I don't think SGP's offense is that good at this point to put points on Dville's defense.

Both of the teams have'nt beat anyone good. SGP's best win is against Justin Northwest(who is 4-3) and Duncanivlle's best win is against Desoto (who is 3-4).

Duncaville lost to it's two best opponents( record wise Permian and Garland) by a total of 9 points and SGP's lost to it's two best opponents(Berkner and Chill) by 52 points..and they didn't score a touchdown in either game.

So my money's with Duncanville I think they are a better team then Grand Prarie right now.


Very good points. I'll just keep my mouth shut and let the Panthers do the talking. Also, don't forget it's Senior Night and Friday can't get here fast enough for those boys and coaching staff!

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Count on it. I have a friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that DV is better than both SGP and Irving. Barring another special teams breakdown, which hasn't happened but once this year, Duncanville will be playing Plano and Allen will be playing SGP.

It will be settled on the field, but your Irving pick over SGP and DV over CHILL didn't work out as expected, so now you need a friend to help you make up your mind:eek:

I say it again, there's still a lot of football left to play, so predicting the playoff seeds right now, will just hurt your head. Ask Plano

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Yes we will see.
We'll see....

hollywood
10-20-2008, 12:46 PM
If SGP wins Friday, that means they are better than D'ville. I will happily eat my plate of crow if that happens.

Why would you be eating crow? Your team beat both of these teams. I thought you had no dog in this fight. ;)

But you do ... It is a second shot at SGP ... right? You beat DV, I won't mention the score so as not to disrespect anyone, but that is what some folks are thinking. They will keep on thinking that because it makes them feel better about their team. Just like SGP folks feel better about their team because they have a good defense. But if DV can run all over the SGP D then that says to me that the CHILL offense is very bad. I don't believe that. Oh wait a minute. We are covering that because for some mysterious reason CHILL did not pass against SGP very much. They held back. It also was not because the CHILL coaches did not want to risk it. There must be some other reason.

I am thinking this is about feeeling good about CHILL's chances to win state "this year". Maybe? Ok, CHILL will not have to face Trinity again this year. So that is covered. The only blemish, well I don't see it as a blemish, but the only part that needs fixing is explain why CHILL did not run all over SGP. I thought it was a dominating win by CHILL's defense. But that is not good enough. If DV can only put it on SGP, then it will be easy to erase that game from our minds because CHILL decisively beat DV and then DV decisively beat SGP and that invaildates the previous game as a bad showing and unwillingness to throw by the OC. If CHILL threw the ball against SGP they surely would have put that game away early. This logic prepares us now to expect a deep CHILL run this year to state. Hey, maybe they will. They don't have to face DV or SGP again. If they did however, they would put away SGP early. Also, it would be very cool for the two "new teams" to come over to 7-5A and go one two. Yeah, that is there too. Cool. I dig it. Good thing for all of us Trinity and Bell left, instead of the Irving teams. There was no Bowie team to contend with this year either. Cool, its kind of a twin cities thing. Again, I am glad to see teams in the Southern part of DFW playing better ball these days.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Oh that even better the last game the Senior will play at home will be a lost to SGP!:D
Very good points. I'll just keep my mouth shut and let the Panthers do the talking. Also, don't forget it's Senior Night and Friday can't get here fast enough for those boys and coaching staff!

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:51 PM
Yes
Good for him. Does he plan on playing college ball anywhere?

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 12:52 PM
Why would you be eating crow? Your team beat both of these teams. I thought you had no dog in this fight. ;)... I dig it.

I don't but I did make a prediction...

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:53 PM
Yes


Good luck to him! If he's as dumb as you sound, he'll need all the luck he can get!!!

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 12:53 PM
Good luck to him! If he's as dumb as you sound, he'll need all the luck he can get!!!

that is over the line.:mad:

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:54 PM
:Music
Good luck to him! If he's as dumb as you sound, he'll need all the luck he can get!!!

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 12:57 PM
that is over the line.:mad:


You're correct. I apologize. I'm sure he's smarter than his Dad. I just get so tired of trying to read his poor grammar. Good luck to Wills and his Dad and his Mommy and all the other Warriors this week. It should be a good game. Duncanville will allow SGP to stay in the game, but DV will win! Have a great week gentlemen!

sgp3
10-20-2008, 12:59 PM
No need to apologize we all know you are:Censor:hole!
You're correct. I apologize. I'm sure he's smarter than his Dad. I just get so tired of trying to read his poor grammar. Good luck to Wills and his Dad and his Mommy and all the other Warriors this week. It should be a good game. Duncanville will allow SGP to stay in the game, but DV will win! Have a great week gentlemen!

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 01:00 PM
No need to apologize we all know you are:Censor:hole!


;)

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 01:01 PM
Good luck to him! If he's as dumb as you sound, he'll need all the luck he can get!!!

Way out of line.

Support your team, give you reasons why you think they will win, debate it, but NO Personal attacks!

Thank you!

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 01:06 PM
It goes both ways doesn't it?

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:07 PM
:eek: WOW!!! where do I sign up?!:D

I bet a bunch of coaches are saying that. I don't know how other schools are in Texas, but at SGP the HC and Althletic director is not required to teach regular classes. I am betting it depends on the schools size and maybe more importantly their pocket size.

Up until this year Coach Davies has been teaching as a regular teacher. This was for sure his primary role. I know he loves it and was not really wanting to give it up this year. Not sure if Dicus and some of the other higher profile coaches do much of that. I am in no way taking a shot at them. My assumption is that they paid their dues and rose to the top due to their capabilities. Anyway, teachers don't pull in the big bucks. I know they get a stipend (spelling?), which is additional monies for collateral duties like coaching. I am thinking this may vary wildly from ISD to ISD and person to person. Idunno. I am also thinking that it is not a whole lot of money. So I have huge respect for teachers and teacher coaches and those that came up through the ranks to be HC. One reason, I may be less critical of coaches than other folks. Also, I am sure because I see things more for the coaches side of things. Ok, I am biased, but at least I know it.

The $120,000 that was mentioned stated "salary and benefits" so who knows what that means. Benifits could be like 17% of that.

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 01:07 PM
Two Soph QB's battle in this one. Now there are 4 soph QB's starting in 7-5a.:D

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:09 PM
I bet a bunch of coaches are saying that....The $120,000 that was mentioned stated "salary and benefits" so who knows what that means. Benifits could be like 17% of that.

was this from an article? if so could you provide a link? I remember the DMN did a story on Coaching salaries a few years ago it was a great read.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:10 PM
Two Soph QB's battle in this one. Now there are 4 soph QB's starting in 7-5a.:D

Wow! so who is going to get the newcomer of the year? District MVP?

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:11 PM
It should be a fun game.
Two Soph QB's battle in this one. Now there are 4 soph QB's starting in 7-5a.:D

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 01:13 PM
It goes both ways doesn't it?

You started talking down a kid you don't know. A fine young man, who plays hard, gets excellent grades, and is respectful to adults. When you did that you were out of line. You can get on SGP's writing skills all you want. He can take it!:D

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:14 PM
You started talking down a kid you don't know. A fine young man, who plays hard, gets excellent grades, and is respectful to adults. When you did that you were out of line. You can get on SGP's writing skills all you want. He can take it!:D

+1

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:17 PM
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08_pl...ections_08.htm has SGP but that is because DV is 3-1 and SGP is 2-1 in district so depends on who is lower in district to whom we play.

Correct, but this head to head meeting is likley the tie breaker. SGP must win this week to get the number 1 D1 seed for 7-5A. Tis true of DV as well. I suppose SGP could beat DV and lose the last two games and DV could back in. SGP finishes the last two games virtually at home.

IMAC at the Bowl. No one is saying that IMAC cannot jump up and take this game, but if SGP is good enough to beat DV, they are plenty good enough to beat IMAC. Does not mean that it will play out that way.

GP at the Bowl (visitors side). Always a tough game. BUT, GP is 0-7. They may not win this year. Breaks could fall their way but first things first.

We are not coaches or players so we can have some fun putting some extra meaning in this week's game as fans. It is all in fun.

If SGP wins this week, they likely finish 5-1 in district.
DV would then be 4-2. If both teams finish 4-2, then the tie breaker is the head to head.

rownorserow
10-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Some of you need to get some thicker skin. I was putting down SGP's ebonics. I wasn't putting down his kid. However, I would have to say as much crap as he talks, I would be embarassed if I was his kid. I also wouldn't want that target on my head that his dad has put there. Oh well....it's all good. May the best team win Friday night.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Thanks for those such kind words:notworthy And yes I can take it. :Music
You started talking down a kid you don't know. A fine young man, who plays hard, gets excellent grades, and is respectful to adults. When you did that you were out of line. You can get on SGP's writing skills all you want. He can take it!:D

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:23 PM
You are to funny to me. Warrior told you I don't let this stuff get to me. Just tell DV QB throw #3 way friday night.
Some of you need to get some thicker skin. I was putting down SGP's ebonics. I wasn't putting down his kid. However, I would have to say as much crap as he talks, I would be embarassed if I was his kid. I also wouldn't want that target on my head that his dad has put there. Oh well....it's all good. May the best team win Friday night.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Can hardly wait to see who wins this one. Like to know for sure SGP is our first round opponent or not.:D

SGP gets Allen or Plano. All I can say is that I was at the Trintiy vs. Allen game and I was impressed with Allen's QB. I could not understand some of the Allen fans throwing him under the bus. If SGP had him we they would be in pretty good shape. But they don't ... :(

I think Allen proved this week, SGP prefers Plano. That said, it is like a kick in the face or a kick in the nads. Pick your poison. I also would like to face Plano at Texas Stadium to have another shot at the folks who beat us in the playoffs in 2005. Either way I intend to have fun with it. I have some Allen friends. There will be some good offline trash going around.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Some of you need to get some thicker skin. I was putting down SGP's ebonics. I wasn't putting down his kid. However, I would have to say as much crap as he talks, I would be embarassed if I was his kid. I also wouldn't want that target on my head that his dad has put there. Oh well....it's all good. May the best team win Friday night.


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- No personal attacks against other posters are acceptable (that includes attacks on players and coaches). If you see that happening, please notify one of the moderators (KT2000, ktchamp97, jc84chill) and we'll take care of it. We can't stress that enough.

I personally care less what you say about SGP3, as poster's the rule about personal attacks regularly cross that line. BUT you "implied" certain things about a player and that should not and will not be tolerated. These young men play a game we all love with passion and selflessness(is that a word?:confused:). They should always be treated with respect

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 01:25 PM
Wow! so who is going to get the newcomer of the year? District MVP?


Right now:

MVP

Ben Malena, Cedar Hill 7 129 1012 7.8 12

With a couple big games, maybe:

DeWayne Peace, South Grand Prairie 7 38 542 14.3 7

Maybe someone one this Defense

South Grand Prairie 665 847 216.0

NCOTY:
Jercolby Bradley, Irving 8 119-219-7 1376 6.3 15

Divian Ealy, Duncanville 6 70-146-4 840 5.8 9

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:27 PM
Right now:

MVP

Ben Malena, Cedar Hill 7 129 1012 7.8 12

With a couple big games, maybe:

DeWayne Peace, South Grand Prairie 7 38 542 14.3 7

Maybe someone one this Defense

South Grand Prairie 665 847 216.0

NCOTY:
Jercolby Bradley, Irving 8 119-219-7 1376 6.3 15

Divian Ealy, Duncanville 6 70-146-4 840 5.8 9

I would give you mine but I am not being a Homer this week!!!:)

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 01:35 PM
I would give you mine but I am not being a Homer this week!!!:)

The CHILL kid who picked up the fumble for a score, and put the game out of reach might be the one.:notworthy. 14-0 was too much for the O to handle.:mad:

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Cedar Hill Dad has seen both teams play. I believe he can give an accurate assessment of both teams. You'll see for yourself Friday night. Oh...and thank you for putting a target on your son! You're not too bright....

Edited, because CedarHillDad said it best. We support all the players and coaches no matter what team they represent. It is a game. We don't want to see players get hurt. But what you are suggesting may actually be criminal in nature and certainly has no place here.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:37 PM
The CHILL kid who picked up the fumble for a score, and put the game out of reach might be the one.:notworthy. 14-0 was too much for the O to handle.:mad:

oh you mean the NEXT UT COMMIT from CHILL? (well I hope so anyway:))

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:42 PM
Benson, he should go to LSU:D
oh you mean the NEXT UT COMMIT from CHILL? (well I hope so anyway:))

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:43 PM
Benson, he should go to LSU:D
In your DREAMS!!!

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:43 PM
I can understand where CedarHillDad is coming from. Duncanville is a very dangerous team. If they don't point that machine gun at they feet and let it rip friday that game would've been a closer game that could've ended with Dville winning.

I don't think SGP's offense is that good at this point to put points on Dville's defense.

Both of the teams have'nt beat anyone good. SGP's best win is against Justin Northwest(who is 4-3) and Duncanivlle's best win is against Desoto (who is 3-4).

Duncaville lost to it's two best opponents( record wise Permian and Garland) by a total of 9 points and SGP's lost to it's two best opponents(Berkner and Chill) by 52 points..and they didn't score a touchdown in either game.

So my money's with Duncanville I think they are a better team then Grand Prarie right now.

These are good points. Hoping SGP can help them aim that machine gun at their feet.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:43 PM
:D This should be a fun game on friday night. You know I will let #3 read this for real :D
Again spoken like a "man". BTW that is three times I have challenged your manhood Billy Bob. Please throw towards number three. Please run the ball towards number three. Please do not block him on punts. Promise? The problem with all of this is that the SGP D is so very deep, feel free to pick on someone. Hard to do that when one is scrambling around. I am sure the DV QB is going to be saying, "where is that #3, I am going to light him up". Please throw his way. It increases SGP's chance of winning by a big margin. You have really got my hopes up now. Seriously, please think through your comments. They really seem like someone hiding on the web and trying to be a bad@ss. Billy Bob Bad@ss. Big Balls Billy Bob Bad@ss. Biyochin Big Balls Billy Bob Bad@ss. Hey, you just put a target on your son. Nice. I am saving this post, you should too.

Bulliten Board Byochin Big Balls Billy Bob Bad@ss.

The Man.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:44 PM
He should want to play for the 2003, 2007 National Champs:notworthy
In your DREAMS!!!

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:46 PM
double post

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:46 PM
Sounds like SGP should not even show up for this week game again.:rolleyes:
Agreed, but 38 of those points were in the first game of the year with a different QB and Center and on and on. A lot of water under the bridge. The loss was by 14 to CHILL. I do think DV is dangerous and really do want folks to pick with them. It is important that SGP get that message for them to perform well this week.

But cool. I hope DV prepares for the team that Berkner beat in week zero.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 01:47 PM
He should want to play for the 2003, 2007 National Champs:notworthy

How about the 2008 NationaL CHAMPS!!!!!?:D


No way is he going to the tiggers.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:47 PM
Very good points. I'll just keep my mouth shut and let the Panthers do the talking. Also, don't forget it's Senior Night and Friday can't get here fast enough for those boys and coaching staff!

Not possible.

Lets give those boys a nice send off.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:48 PM
Never say never!
How about the 2008 NationaL CHAMPS!!!!!?:D


No way is he going to the tiggers.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 01:49 PM
That sounds like a plan to me:D
Not possible.

Lets give those boys a nice send off.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:49 PM
nm

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:50 PM
I don't but I did make a prediction...

;) Only you will ever know for sure.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:52 PM
It goes both ways doesn't it?

That's what she said.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:54 PM
was this from an article? if so could you provide a link? I remember the DMN did a story on Coaching salaries a few years ago it was a great read.

http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:xvcAfiIq2eEJ:texasprepxtra.rivals.c om/content.asp%3FCID%3D761570+coach+dicus&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

It was cached up. When I googled for the coach, I had to pick the cached version.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:57 PM
nm

hollywood
10-20-2008, 01:59 PM
You are to funny to me. Warrior told you I don't let this stuff get to me. Just tell DV QB throw #3 way friday night.

I think Joey should wear #3 this week. That way the DV QB can see it close up and personal.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:03 PM
nm

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:06 PM
How about the 2008 NationaL CHAMPS!!!!!?:D


No way is he going to the tiggers.

Texas. No doubt.

The Bear
10-20-2008, 02:12 PM
I have a close friend that coaches at Cedar Hill and he said that SGP is better then both DV and Irving.:ninja:


WOW!!!!

The Bear
10-20-2008, 02:13 PM
In your DREAMS!!!

Why :D

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:22 PM
nm

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:23 PM
WOW!!!!

I think they are both full of it. If not it is the same friend ...

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 02:25 PM
I think Joey should wear #3 this week. That way the DV QB can see it close up and personal.

#32 has a three on his jersey, and has said hello to a QB in his day(last week)

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:29 PM
#32 has a three on his jersey, and has said hello to a QB in his day(last week)

Too bad everyone could not wear #3 this week.

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 02:34 PM
Too bad everyone could now wear #3 this week.

#75 could be #333 this week, and he's been itchin' to chase a QB all year, no tellin' what he would do if he caught one!:D

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 02:38 PM
This is the game #10 holds on to the ball for a long score! The third time is a charm!:)

Oh yeah, maybe this is the game we see #3 lined up with single coverage and takes one to the house.

trainin' the game
10-20-2008, 02:40 PM
ok boys; the rb for d'ville didn't play against ch due to some problems with getting needed equiment in. however he was suited up and even was warming up before the game. he will most likely play friday. any comments?

DPS!

good luck to both of you this weekend!

The Bear
10-20-2008, 02:46 PM
ok boys; the rb for d'ville didn't play against ch due to some problems with getting needed equiment in. however he was suited up and even was warming up before the game. he will most likely play friday. any comments?

DPS!

good luck to both of you this weekend!


Look out, If so they may not have to pass...

sgp3
10-20-2008, 02:47 PM
Now that would be real nice for sure:notworthy
This is the game #10 holds on to the ball for a long score! The third time is a charm!:)

Oh yeah, maybe this is the game we see #3 lined up with single coverage and takes one to the house.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:51 PM
This is the game #10 holds on to the ball for a long score! The third time is a charm!:)

Oh yeah, maybe this is the game we see #3 lined up with single coverage and takes one to the house.

The first one should have earned him a tube of super glue. That last one was a bit tougher and he almost made a great catch on it. #19 would have had it because he seems to be just that much quciker and of course has great hands. An RCH more touch on that pass and it was a score.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:55 PM
ok boys; the rb for d'ville didn't play against ch due to some problems with getting needed equiment in. however he was suited up and even was warming up before the game. he will most likely play friday. any comments?

DPS!

good luck to both of you this weekend!

Too bad they were missing some needed equipment for him to play when they really could have used him last week.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 02:56 PM
Look out, If so they may not have to pass...

Ok, so how much better is he than Malena?

sgp3
10-20-2008, 02:59 PM
I would like to know the answer to that one as well.
Ok, so how much better is he than Malena?

The Bear
10-20-2008, 03:14 PM
Ok, so how much better is he than Malena?


He's a very good Back that will take some pressure off the QB. Not saying that the other backs are not good. It's just an addition.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:15 PM
He's a very good Back that will take some pressure off the QB. Not saying that the other backs are not good. It's just an addition.

We can all use that. I hope he gets to play and is at full strength.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:16 PM
Why :D

I am not telling you anything!!!:D

:ninja::ninja::ninja:

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:18 PM
ok boys; the rb for d'ville didn't play against ch due to some problems with getting needed equiment in. however he was suited up and even was warming up before the game. he will most likely play friday. any comments?

DPS!

good luck to both of you this weekend!

He's a very good Back that will take some pressure off the QB. Not saying that the other backs are not good. It's just an addition.

wow 1 more weapon they can use. Eat your Wheaties SGP:eek:

The Warrior
10-20-2008, 03:19 PM
Look out, If so they may not have to pass...

If #34 shows up like he did last week. We won't need to pass either. The game will be over in 90 minutes;)

The Bear
10-20-2008, 03:19 PM
I am not telling you anything!!!:D

:ninja::ninja::ninja:


Come on :D

The Bear
10-20-2008, 03:20 PM
We can all use that. I hope he gets to play and is at full strength.

Me too

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:23 PM
If #34 shows up like he did last week. We won't need to pass either. The game will be over in 90 minutes;)

HEY! I thought High School games were 60 minutes?!:confused::D

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:23 PM
wow 1 more weapon they can use. Eat your Wheaties SGP:eek:

Roasted Panther.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Come on :D

NOPE NOPE NOPE...:D

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:24 PM
HEY! I thought High School games were 60 minutes?!:confused::D

48 Minutes clock time. Counting the half I think it is around six hours.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:24 PM
48 Minutes clock time. Counting the half I think it is around six hours.

HA HA HA!!!

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:28 PM
Duncanville Coaching Staff (http://duncanvillefootball.com/coaches/)

The DV RB coach is the baddest in the state of Texas.
That is saying a lot.

Duncanville Football (http://duncanvillefootball.com/)

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:30 PM
Me too

Good luck to Josh Harris #1. Fear the Onesie.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 03:37 PM
All those weapons and just one football:)
wow 1 more weapon they can use. Eat your Wheaties SGP:eek:

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:44 PM
All those weapons and just one football:)

by the 4th quarter those weapons are still fresh...

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:47 PM
Come on :D

seriously, I am just going on an article I read somewhere that said Texas and Georgia are his top 2.

Yuo know if I had any inside info I would tell you personally. (well maybe, you are an LSU fan;))

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:49 PM
Wow I almost nailed the % of benefits for Dicus.

They say $104,000. So it was a little over 15% in benefits.

Dicus (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=764358) on Rivals

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:55 PM
Wow I almost nailed the % of benefits for Dicus.

They say $104,000. So it was a little over 15% in benefits.

Dicus (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=764358) on Rivals

I am glad I am a private citizen, if my business was out there like that I would be pissed.

I do not need to sign up to be a coach, thx but no thx....:D

hollywood
10-20-2008, 03:55 PM
Zavain Handy is a little guy with big play ability. He can cause some trouble.

CedarHillDad
10-20-2008, 03:57 PM
Zavain Handy is a little guy with big play ability. He can cause some trouble.

for REAL!!! he is tough too. he got pounded by our defense but always popped up.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 04:42 PM
I am glad I am a private citizen, if my business was out there like that I would be pissed.

I do not need to sign up to be a coach, thx but no thx....:D

Yeah, tough business. It must be a love hate thing. Their success is based on how well teenagers play football. Hoe they get consistency of any kind is tough to say. the really good ones can. Beyond the kids dealing with parents, the given ISD and no pass no play, must be a nightmare. Then again, to be paid doing what you love to do is worth it.

sgp3
10-20-2008, 06:04 PM
Yeah they will be fresh for the 1st quarter for the next game.
by the 4th quarter those weapons are still fresh...

sgp3
10-20-2008, 06:05 PM
He look like he a tough little running back on film.
Zavain Handy is a little guy with big play ability. He can cause some trouble.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 06:32 PM
He look like he a tough little running back on film.

Yeah he looks like one of those guys who they can get big plays out of, here and there. He will be pesky for sure. He is probably very hard to see until he pops out somewhere.

hollywood
10-20-2008, 08:08 PM
nm

The Bear
10-20-2008, 08:27 PM
seriously, I am just going on an article I read somewhere that said Texas and Georgia are his top 2.

Yuo know if I had any inside info I would tell you personally. (well maybe, you are an LSU fan;))


Okay, I read the same article, But you know that I am

The Bear
10-20-2008, 08:32 PM
Good luck to Josh Harris #1. Fear the Onesie.

Yea, I hope he's back

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 08:40 AM
He's DEFINITELY going to be playing this Friday. And...just announced....Duncanville is DEFINITELY in the playoffs. South Grand Prairie needs to win one of the next three I think.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 10:15 AM
How is Dville in the playoff allready?
He's DEFINITELY going to be playing this Friday. And...just announced....Duncanville is DEFINITELY in the playoffs. South Grand Prairie needs to win one of the next three I think.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:24 AM
How is Dville in the playoff allready?


Doesn't matter what they do the next two games, other than seeding. They have already won 3 district games and they are in. Mathematically, it is impossible for anybody to knock them out.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 10:36 AM
Oh so you arleady know they are going to lose to SGP?:D
Doesn't matter what they do the next two games, other than seeding. They have already won 3 district games and they are in. Mathematically, it is impossible for anybody to knock them out.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:37 AM
Oh so you arleady know they are going to lose to SGP?:D


I didn't say that. I said it doesn't matter what happens...they are in.

You like to start ****, then get mad when somebody throws it back at you don't you?

sgp3
10-21-2008, 10:42 AM
I will have to check to see if what you are saying is true.
I didn't say that. I said it doesn't matter what happens...they are in.

You like to start ****, then get mad when somebody throws it back at you don't you?

hollywood
10-21-2008, 10:47 AM
How is Dville in the playoff already? Because they might just lose there next two games.

Duncanville is (3-1) in district.
SGP is (2-1) in district.

Well, lets do this by elimination.

Grand Prairie is (0-3) in district and has lost to Duncaville, so even if they win out they would only be (3-3) and have lost the head to head to Duncanville. SGP has not played them yet.

Irving MacArthur is (2-1) in district and has lost to Duncanville. If they win out they could be (5-1).
So they are still in it and in theory could still be ahead of Duncanville. However, they would be beating SGP in the process and Irving. IMAC would be (4-1) and have the tie breaker against SGP (4-1). That would leave Irving at (3-3). Irving and DV have not played yet. So we would still have five teams in the mix.

Irving is (2-2) in district and has lost to SGP. If they win out they would be (4-2) and would have won against DV and IMAC to do it.


So mathematically I am saying not yet. What have I missed? We are not talking likely, we are talking clinched.

Irving and IMAC play each other in the last game. Maybe that is the kicker. So only one of them can win. Yes, that is it.
If Irving loses they are out period. If IMAC loses DV has the tie breaker. So good for goodolboy, I am there.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 10:51 AM
Hollywood I agree with you. I think if Irving wins out that could eliminate Duncanville.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:51 AM
Irving only has two games left. They are off this week.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:53 AM
Irving has lost two district games. IF they win out, they would be 4-2.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 10:55 AM
Irving has lost two district games. IF they win out, they would be 4-2.

and D'ville would be 4-2 and Irving wins on head to head...

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:56 AM
Actually, if Duncanville loses out, they would be 3-3. Who does Irving play the final week?

hollywood
10-21-2008, 10:57 AM
The key seems to be that both Irving and IMAC cannot win out and DV has the tie breaker with IMAC. Pretty sweet logic actually. Its in the remaining possible combinations. No?

hollywood
10-21-2008, 10:58 AM
Actually, if Duncanville loses out, they would be 3-3. Who does Irving play the final week?

IMAC. This is why you are correct. They both cannot win.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:59 AM
Irving plays Mac the last week?

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 10:59 AM
There you go. That's the clincher. Duncanville is in for sure!

hollywood
10-21-2008, 11:01 AM
There you go. That's the clincher. Duncanville is in for sure!

Yep. Its not obvious at first glance but I concede this. :notworthy

Forgive me if I do not even look at the SGP combinations. Its just win baby.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Yep. Its not obvious at first glance but I concede this. :notworthy

Forgive me if I do not even look at the SGP combinations. Its just win baby.


It's all good. Believe me...this isn't going to change the attitude of the players, if the coaches have even told them....because I'm sure they are still ticked off at being screwed by the refs last week and are going to take it out on some Warriors! I can't wait to see it!!!

hollywood
10-21-2008, 11:12 AM
It's all good. Believe me...this isn't going to change the attitude of the players, if the coaches have even told them....because I'm sure they are still ticked off at being screwed by the refs last week and are going to take it out on some Warriors! I can't wait to see it!!!

I think teams are even more dangerous coming off games like that. The rebound effect is pretty powerful.
Maybe it takes some of the pressure off and they will not mind opening up their offense. They don't have to be as cautious. They can be a little more risky and have fun with it. Coach Dicus can move into lets prep for the playoffs mode. DV already has the last week as the bye week. SGP and Irving to prepare. SGP is the key game for the seeding.

Yep. Heading in hostile country for the Warriors this week. Add one more reason.

Congrats to Coach Dicus, his staff and the Panthers for getting back to the show.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 11:15 AM
I think teams are even more dangerous coming off games like that. The rebound effect is pretty powerful.
Maybe it takes some of the pressure off and they will not mind opening up their offense. They don't have to be as cautious. They can be a little more risky and have fun with it. Coach Dicus can move into lets prep for the playoffs mode. DV already has the last week as the bye week. SGP and Irving to prepare. SGP is the key game for the seeding.

Yep. Heading in hostile country for the Warriors this week. Add one more reason.

Yep. It's going to be a great environment for both teams.

lastguyontheright
10-21-2008, 11:17 AM
Stats don't always tell the truth about a game, because there always going to be some hidden yardage in there. But don't worry SGP defense will show up like they always do and if we can get a solid game from our offense we will be just fine. Because if Dville special team don't improve they are in big trouble for real.

A solid game from the offense would be asking a lot. SGP just looks lost on offense at times. And I don't understand why they don't get the ball to Peace a lot more. He's a stud.

I honestly believe that if SGP could score three touchdowns every game, their D would win them a lot more games. I've seen a lot of football this year and SGP has one of the worst offenses I've seen, so give me D'ville in a close one.

D'ville 17, SGP 14

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:09 PM
The refs did not make Dville drops those wide open passes by #2 and #22. And those drops came when Dville could have change the entire outcome of the game. So don't blame the refs on Dville losing to Cedar Hill. There always going to be some blown calls or some questionable calls at the high school level, Dville had many chances to win on last friday.
It's all good. Believe me...this isn't going to change the attitude of the players, if the coaches have even told them....because I'm sure they are still ticked off at being screwed by the refs last week and are going to take it out on some Warriors! I can't wait to see it!!!

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:14 PM
SGP plays better on the road then at home anyway. I can't way to see my man with the defense and offense signs in the stand as the sounds of the drums is being played in the background.:notworthy
I think teams are even more dangerous coming off games like that. The rebound effect is pretty powerful.
Maybe it takes some of the pressure off and they will not mind opening up their offense. They don't have to be as cautious. They can be a little more risky and have fun with it. Coach Dicus can move into lets prep for the playoffs mode. DV already has the last week as the bye week. SGP and Irving to prepare. SGP is the key game for the seeding.

Yep. Heading in hostile country for the Warriors this week. Add one more reason.

Congrats to Coach Dicus, his staff and the Panthers for getting back to the show.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:17 PM
Well the offense is starting to turn the corner some.:D
A solid game from the offense would be asking a lot. SGP just looks lost on offense at times. And I don't understand why they don't get the ball to Peace a lot more. He's a stud.

I honestly believe that if SGP could score three touchdowns every game, their D would win them a lot more games. I've seen a lot of football this year and SGP has one of the worst offenses I've seen, so give me D'ville in a close one.

D'ville 17, SGP 14

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:19 PM
Well the offense is starting to turn the corner some.:D

:rolleyes: yeah right...

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:21 PM
Well SGP has more passing yards then Cedar Hill does:D

:rolleyes: yeah right...

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 12:23 PM
The refs did not make Dville drops those wide open passes by #2 and #22. And those drops came when Dville could have change the entire outcome of the game. So don't blame the refs on Dville losing to Cedar Hill. There always going to be some blown calls or some questionable calls at the high school level, Dville had many chances to win on last friday.


When a high school football team doesn't have a penalty until the fourth quarter...something is up. Especially when the other team has 9!

You weren't at the game, so you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:25 PM
Well SGP has more passing yards than Cedar Hill.:D
fify

Very true and a good and valid point. Chill runs the ball better than SGP:p

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:25 PM
When a high school football team doesn't have a penalty until the fourth quarter...something is up. Especially when the other team has 9!

You weren't at the game, so you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

:eek::ninja::Music

trainin' the game
10-21-2008, 12:27 PM
There you go. That's the clincher. Duncanville is in for sure!

all those posts; and they will be one and done anyway;)

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:28 PM
all those posts; and they will be one and done anyway;)

HA HA HA

hollywood
10-21-2008, 12:29 PM
A solid game from the offense would be asking a lot. SGP just looks lost on offense at times. And I don't understand why they don't get the ball to Peace a lot more. He's a stud.

I honestly believe that if SGP could score three touchdowns every game, their D would win them a lot more games. I've seen a lot of football this year and SGP has one of the worst offenses I've seen, so give me D'ville in a close one.

D'ville 17, SGP 14

SGP needs to be able to make those FGs. It has cost them in a couple of games where the offense did make the long drive down the field and could have been rewarded. FGs are very big for SGP. Having a stout defense makes them that much more meaningful.

In a game this close turnovers become the big key.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 12:31 PM
SGP plays better on the road then at home anyway. I can't way to see my man with the defense and offense signs in the stand as the sounds of the drums is being played in the background.:notworthy

LOL. Does he travel? I only noticed him this past week. He is a key player for sure now. I had to promise my wife I would not ever do that.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 12:32 PM
all those posts; and they will be one and done anyway;)


I'll take one and done. It's a start in the right direction...with a sophomore QB.

Far cry from 3-7.

I would love to see how Cedar Hill does in Div. I.

:D

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:32 PM
I watch #2 and #22 drop those for sure TD passes which would have been game changing plays. So you telling me those drop passes where not huge plays in that game? Also those blown blocking assignment on special teams where huge.

When a high school football team doesn't have a penalty until the fourth quarter...something is up. Especially when the other team has 9!

You weren't at the game, so you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:33 PM
I hope he does travel:D And I thought that was you Hollywood, I guess I was wrong;)
LOL. Does he travel? I only noticed him this past week. He is a key player for sure now. I had to promise my wife I would not ever do that.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:39 PM
I would like to see all these sophomore QB when they become seniors.
I'll take one and done. It's a start in the right direction...with a sophomore QB.

Far cry from 3-7.

I would love to see how Cedar Hill does in Div. I.

:D

hollywood
10-21-2008, 12:40 PM
When a high school football team doesn't have a penalty until the fourth quarter...something is up. Especially when the other team has 9!

You weren't at the game, so you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

I usually do not post about refs. I like the games where they let the players decide the game for the most part. I guess that depends on the teams. I really hate the phantom calls. They do need to protect the players and keep an illusion of control of the game. They do need to ensure that one team is not cheating the rules. It does seem sometimes as if things are "less than fair" at times. It has run the gammit for SGP this year. It has not cost them any games and I don't think it has them any either. The potential is there.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:43 PM
Well that is true but SGP has a better defense:p
fify

Very true and a good and valid point. Chill runs the ball better than SGP:p

hollywood
10-21-2008, 12:44 PM
all those posts; and they will be one and done anyway;)

If you are in it, you can win it. Well, anyway there are always surprises in the playoffs. Teams like Duncanville have the potential to put things together and make a game with anyone if the breaks fall just right. Rowlett has proven that.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:45 PM
Well that may be true but SGP has a better defense:p
fify
not when you played CHILL!:cool:

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:45 PM
That is true SGP have had some questionable calls go against them this year. But at the end of the day teams have to learn how to keep playing hard and not make the mental mistake.
I usually do not post about refs. I like the games where they let the players decide the game for the most part. I guess that depends on the teams. I really hate the phantom calls. They do need to protect the players and keep an illusion of control of the game. They do need to ensure that one team is not cheating the rules. It does seem sometimes as if things are "less than fair" at times. It has run the gammit for SGP this year. It has not cost them any games and I don't think it has them any either. The potential is there.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 12:49 PM
It doesn't matter how hard you play when the refs call back every big play you make.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:49 PM
Our defense was better that night if you look back at the stats. The offense just not give us nothing that night. Because if we go back to the 4th and 6 play on that first drive where the so call late hit to place on the QB.:rolleyes: But hey you guys won. It all good but overall SGP defenese is the best in the 7-5A but our offense is dead last.:rolleyes:
fify
not when you played CHILL!:cool:

hollywood
10-21-2008, 12:50 PM
fify
not when you played CHILL!:cool:

Yes we did. I get your point, but the CHILL defense had an easier task at hand. I do contend that the CHILL defense dominated the SGP offense by shutting them out AND scoring. The SGP D gave up a score and did not score themselves.

Hypothetically I think CHILL would be a better team if they had the SGP D to go along with their offense. Not that that this could ever be proved.

It is very tough on a defense when their offense turns the ball over often, does not run down the clock and does not improve field position as much as some other teams.

Hence the reason folks pick against SGP.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 12:51 PM
I watch #2 and #22 drop those for sure TD passes which would have been game changing plays. So you telling me those drop passes where not huge plays in that game? Also those blown blocking assignment on special teams where huge.


If they would have caught the ball, the ref. would have thrown a flag for holding. They did it several times.

It will be nice to play a team this week that the refs. hate just as much, if not more, than Duncanville.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 12:52 PM
I guess like you said I was not there, but Dville did have a chance to make plays in that game from what I have seen on film.
It doesn't matter how hard you play when the refs call back every big play you make.

goodolboy
10-21-2008, 12:54 PM
They made plenty of plays...but they were negated by that yellow rag.

It's over....nothing can be done about it now.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 12:56 PM
I'll take one and done. It's a start in the right direction...with a sophomore QB.

Far cry from 3-7.

I would love to see how Cedar Hill does in Div. I.

:D

Good point. D1 is stacked. Not saying there are not some great teams in D2, but especially for 7-5A there is a tough road ahead.

Allen, Plano, Coppell, Trinity, Permian. Sure some of them may knock off one another but it is darwinian. You get the winner if you move on.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:56 PM
If they would have caught the ball, the ref. would have thrown a flag for holding. They did it several times.

It will be nice to play a team this week that the refs. hate just as much, if not more, than Duncanville.

Dude. Quit WHINING!! sorry you had to drive all that way for nothing

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 12:59 PM
Yes we did. I get your point, but the CHILL defense had an easier task at hand. I do contend that the CHILL defense dominated the SGP offense by shutting them out AND scoring. The SGP D gave up a score and did not score themselves.

Hypothetically I think CHILL would be a better team if they had the SGP D to go along with their offense. Not that that this could ever be proved.

It is very tough on a defense when their offense turns the ball over often, does not run down the clock and does not improve field position as much as some other teams.

Hence the reason folks pick against SGP.

I talked with someone I trust implicitly the other day, and he was floored by the defensive alignment and how we did not fix the defensive backfield throughout the game.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 01:00 PM
I hope he does travel:D And I thought that was you Hollywood, I guess I was wrong;)

LOL. I love that guy, but that was not me. I wear a Fear The Spear shirt. What throws people off about me is that while I am 53, I look very very young. That dude may have been my age but he looked to be in his 60s.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 01:04 PM
Oh alright whoever he is I hope he there on friday night with his signs.
LOL. I love that guy, but that was not me. I wear a Fear The Spear shirt. What throws people off about me is that while I am 53, I look very very young. That dude may have been my age but he looked to be in his 60s.

sgp3
10-21-2008, 01:06 PM
Yeah I was saying the same thing when I watch film. I was wondering how Dville wideouts kept getting behind Cedar Hill DB's all night long.
I talked with someone I trust implicitly the other day, and he was floored by the defensive alignment and how we did not fix the defensive backfield throughout the game.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 01:08 PM
It doesn't matter how hard you play when the refs call back every big play you make.

We had two TDs called back against Summit. Ticky Tacky at best. On one of those the very next play Summit returned an interception back to the SGP one.

Essentially a 21 point swing. Dang.

From one veiw it was three big mistakes on the offense. Maybe so.

hollywood
10-21-2008, 01:12 PM
I talked with someone I trust implicitly the other day, and he was floored by the defensive alignment and how we did not fix the defensive backfield throughout the game.

Basically if you can play defense in the offenses backfield good things happen.

Oh wait, which game are you talking about? DV or SGP. In the SGP game it was about pressure. That said there were receivers that appeared to be open. The ball did not get to them on target. They may not have been where they were supposed to be, but I am betting the QB was rattled. He did his best, he was not the most mobile and did not have a lot of reps even though he was a senior. I am likeing what I see out of the Sophmore with what little exposure there has been. At the very least he is more mobile, has more athletic ability and throws a better pass. Under pressure he seems to have more composure and can tuck and run for positive or at least less negative yardage to keep the next down in control. I think it is now up to our offensive line and RBs to step it up.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 01:14 PM
Basically if you can play defense in the offenses backfield good things happen.

this is true. That is a saving Grace for CHILL..

sgp3
10-21-2008, 01:15 PM
That is so true I remember that.
We had two TDs called back against Summit. Ticky Tacky at best. On one of those the very next play Summit returned an interception back to the SGP one.

Essentially a 21 point swing. Dang.

From one veiw it was three big mistakes on the offense. Maybe so.

The Bear
10-21-2008, 01:27 PM
I talked with someone I trust implicitly the other day, and he was floored by the defensive alignment and how we did not fix the defensive backfield throughout the game.

Once again here is this word TRUST!!!!. It 's such a small word but with a BIG meaning.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 01:29 PM
Once again here is this word TRUST!!!!. It 's such a small word but with a BIG meaning.

I do trust what this man's says. Without Question.

The Bear
10-21-2008, 01:32 PM
I do trust what this man's says. Without Question.


It he say he does then he needs to show it.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 01:32 PM
It you say you do then do it. Because you are not showing it.

what:confused:

The Warrior
10-21-2008, 02:17 PM
:rolleyes: yeah right...

We inserted a Soph QB(a la CHILL) and the mobility factor showed up early. Some confidence and we can improve quickly.

The Warrior
10-21-2008, 02:19 PM
When a high school football team doesn't have a penalty until the fourth quarter...something is up. Especially when the other team has 9!

You weren't at the game, so you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

We have that every week, Mansfield Summit was phantom calls glalore. We feel your pain:mad:

sgp3
10-21-2008, 03:31 PM
You just have to learn to play through all that:eek:
We have that every week, Mansfield Summit was phantom calls glalore. We feel your pain:mad:

hollywood
10-21-2008, 04:08 PM
If they would have caught the ball, the ref. would have thrown a flag for holding. They did it several times.

It will be nice to play a team this week that the refs. hate just as much, if not more, than Duncanville.

LOL, true that.

CedarHillDad
10-21-2008, 05:46 PM
Dear Duncanville and SGP fans please forgive me for inserting myself into your thread and having a B:Censor:fest about our program. I am a little frustrated and have no outlet. Have a good game this week and may the Best Team Win.

cough D'ville cough cough:D