FM vs SLC predictions

[ScottS]

Ok, SLC returns from 2 weeks on the road. And what a wild 2 weeks it was. Anyway, Flower Mound comes to Dragon Stadium this week. Lets hear your thoughts/predictions for this game.

[LAHawk]

Ok, SLC returns from 2 weeks on the road. And what a wild 2 weeks it was. Anyway, Flower Mound comes to Dragon Stadium this week. Lets hear your thoughts/predictions for this game.

The Carroll defense will have to show up for this game. If the same defense shows up that played the past two weeks, it could be a long night for Carroll. FM has the offensive fire power equal to or better than Coppell and Marcus, and you saw what those two teams did to the Carroll defense.

However, I picked Carroll to win out after their loss to Coppell and I am going to stick with that. But it wouldn't shock me if the Jags win.

Carroll 35
FM 31

[FMHSJaguar]

Should be a good game. It'll be interesting if Padron is out and they have to use Piland. Granted, he played really well for a backup against Marcus last week, and FM's secondary is questionable at best. However the Jaguar offense and special teams pose a serious threat. Expect a lot of points to be scored in this one.

[DrEdward]

Does Carroll actually play varsity games at Dragon Stadium?? Seems like an awfully long time ago when that last occured. :(

[FMJags490]

Carroll 45
Flower Mound 42

[SLC]

Should be a good game. It'll be interesting if Padron is out and they have to use Piland. Granted, he played really well for a backup against Marcus last week, and FM's secondary is questionable at best. However the Jaguar offense and special teams pose a serious threat. Expect a lot of points to be scored in this one.

Padron will be out... And this for most of us proly goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway... David Piland as well as Kyle Williamson are backups in name only... Both of these boys could start for ALOT of teams here in Texas.. I feel very confident in David and in some ways feel this is a great advantage for next year for the Dragons...

As far as the game is concerened I think its a very good thing that were back home... I think our offense, as long as Hal is aggressive, is fine.. Our defense is reeling and needs to stop the bleeding... I think they will get it fixed this week and come out ready and will make a statement.. The Dragons have been resilient in the past and I have NO doubt they will be this year..

I look for the Dragons to begin to take control of this district this week and since its homecoming week, I expect alot of fire from the boys on Friday night...


Dragons 42

Jaguars 17

[FMJags490]

Good god man, that is an *** whooping. Just out of curiosity did you go to the playoff game last year when you guys played us in the 1st round? I'm curious to see if that had any effect on your score.

I can't see any of these district games being blowouts unless Lewisville is playing in them.

[HebronHawk]

I would like to echo what LA Hawk said. If the Dragon defense doesn't step up it's game, Flower Mound will win.

Flower Mound has to want this game badly. Coppell beat the Dragons, if Flower Mound doesn't, it could end up preventing a playoff berth for the Jags. Colquit and Ashley have to be firing on all cylinders. The Jag secondary will be tested as Southlake brings a vertical game to the contest.

Southlake, once thought to be a "gimme" district champion, also has a must-win game. Congrats to the Dragons for pulling out a "nail-biter" against Marcus.

Any team with 3 district losses will be "on the bubble" for the playoffs. 2 losses is the maximum, imo.

This will be a very good game.

[JagFan]

There are a lot of factors about this game would throw it to either side. Can our backups in the secondary continue to develop? Can Colquitt and Ashley get hot. Will Kelly drop more passes than he catches? Wenrick is back which really helps our offense. If they can continue to click then we have a chance to pull out an upset.

Any player for SLC that makes the Varsity team has my respect. It is one of the great programs and they have those kids ready to play any time. If we can find the crack in their defense then it will be in our favor.

Either way it will be close. I got my hopes up that we would finally beat Hebron that it was a huge letdown when we did not. (the refs calling to apologize for a blown call did not help, a loss is a loss)

Close game 35 to 28 either way.

[JagFan]

I would like to echo what LA Hawk said. If the Dragon defense doesn't step up it's game, Flower Mound will win.

Flower Mound has to want this game badly. Coppell beat the Dragons, if Flower Mound doesn't, it could end up preventing a playoff berth for the Jags. Colquit and Ashley have to be firing on all cylinders. The Jag secondary will be tested as Southlake brings a vertical game to the contest.

Southlake, once thought to be a "gimme" district champion, also has a must-win game. Congrats to the Dragons for pulling out a "nail-biter" against Marcus.

Any team with 3 district losses will be "on the bubble" for the playoffs. 2 losses is the maximum, imo.

This will be a very good game.

WE DO

[15Adragon]

There could easily be 80+ points and 1,000 yards in this game. They better have lots of oxygen on the sidelines - this will be a track meet.
Leave the punters at home.

It could take just a couple of defensive stops to win this one. Offenses will be going for it on 4th down and less than 10 after they cross mid-field. Can't wait until Friday! :eek:

[JagFan]

Good god man, that is an *** whooping. Just out of curiosity did you go to the playoff game last year when you guys played us in the 1st round? I'm curious to see if that had any effect on your score.

I can't see any of these district games being blowouts unless Lewisville is playing in them.

Do Not overlook Lewisville. We blew them out on Senior night and they were missing 5 starters. Those kids never gave up. They will get the backups ready and be a trhreat to anyone that takes them lightly.

[Shoot2thrill]

SLC-42

FM-38

Another nailbiter for the Dragons.

[TulsaHale74]

SLC-42

FMM-38

Another nailbiter for the Dragons.
No M&Ms this week.

[tmcran]

One thing about the district you guys are in; is that the teams that make make the PO's will be battle tested. Can't say the same for Abilene and the teams in 3-5A.:notworthy

[SLC13]

This game is huge for both teams, The winner is in good shape in the district at 2-1, the loser faces possibly missing the PO's. Flower Mound comes into the game with the Dragons 1-1 in district and 6-1 overall. They have beaten PESH (0-7), Keller FR (2-5), Haltom (2-6), N. Crowley (2-5), Desoto (3-4) and Lewisville(2-5); their lone loss was against Hebron (4-3).
Statistically the teams matchup this way:

Flower Mound (6-1, 1-1)
Offense avg: 36.0 ppg and 364.1 ypg
Defense avg: 13.3 ppg and 267.9 ypg
Turnovers (9) & Take aways(14 ): +5

SLC (5-1, 1-1)
Offense avg: 41.8 ppg and 459.2 ypg
Defense avg: 24.2 ppg and 323.0 ypg
Turnovers (10) & Take aways(10): 0

Offensively, FM throws the ball about 60% of the time. led by their QB Brandon Colquitt (136-228-5 for 1703yds) who Dragon fans should remember from the PO's last year. His main targets are WR Collin Ashley(57-804yds) and James Kelly (31-433yds). When FM does run the ball, the main threats are Hunter Lee (95-499yds) and Brad Kapten(52-222yds). Defensively, FM has shown the ability to slow down the offenses of most of the teams they have played. That said, there are many questions about the strength of that opposition as none of their wins have come against a team with a winning record. One other tendency is that FM has won the turnover battle in every one of their wins. In their only loss to Hebron, they turned the ball over 3 times and had no take aways.

With the Dragon's having so many question marks, I really need to think more about my prediction for this one. Later in the week, things might be clearer. Right now I'm just :confused:

[DrEdward]

Good god man, that is an *** whooping. Just out of curiosity did you go to the playoff game last year when you guys played us in the 1st round? I'm curious to see if that had any effect on your score.

I can't see any of these district games being blowouts unless Lewisville is playing in them.

I agree that it will not be a blow out. Carroll has too many players out on both sides of the ball to even consider such a possibility. Thus, I am expecting another close game.

[Drphill]

There are a lot of factors about this game would throw it to either side. Can our backups in the secondary continue to develop? Can Colquitt and Ashley get hot. Will Kelly drop more passes than he catches? Wenrick is back which really helps our offense. If they can continue to click then we have a chance to pull out an upset.

Any player for SLC that makes the Varsity team has my respect. It is one of the great programs and they have those kids ready to play any time. If we can find the crack in their defense then it will be in our favor.

Either way it will be close. I got my hopes up that we would finally beat Hebron that it was a huge letdown when we did not. (the refs calling to apologize for a blown call did not help, a loss is a loss)
Close game 35 to 28 either way.

What blown call are you talking about. And don't say the FAKE Punt!

[JagFan]

What blown call are you talking about. And don't say the FAKE Punt!

Yes, the fake punt was an illegal play with the way it was set up. That is all I know. That is the story from the people close to the coaches. The refs reviewed and saw that it should not have been allowed. ??

I will not say it cost us the game because even if that game had gone into overtime you cannot predect how it would turn out.

And the refs are part of the game. We lost and there should be no excuses. Actually them calling to say sorry made me feel worse because they should be doing their job on the field not Saturday morning.

[Drphill]

My Best friend is a Ref and has been doing High school ball for 20 years and said it is not illegal. He said 70% of Refs would not flag the play its a discretion call. The rule says No deception during subsitution. Its not deception, the kid is inside the numbers when the whistle blows then jogs to the sideline and stands there. Heck, a reverse or fake field goal its all deception. Just coach your kid to check the sideline.

[green day]

I didn't see the play but based on the descriptions, I love it. Creative stuff kids will still remember in 2040...

[toonman]

Padron will be out... And this for most of us proly goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway... David Piland as well as Kyle Williamson are backups in name only... Both of these boys could start for ALOT of teams here in Texas.. I feel very confident in David and in some ways feel this is a great advantage for next year for the Dragons...

As far as the game is concerened I think its a very good thing that were back home... I think our offense, as long as Hal is aggressive, is fine.. Our defense is reeling and needs to stop the bleeding... I think they will get it fixed this week and come out ready and will make a statement.. The Dragons have been resilient in the past and I have NO doubt they will be this year..

I look for the Dragons to begin to take control of this district this week and since its homecoming week, I expect alot of fire from the boys on Friday night...


Dragons 42

Jaguars 17

I thought David Piland did a great job last Friday and I think he adds a dimension to the QB play that had been missing. David Piland look very much like Riley Dodge in the way he plays and he certainly zing those passes.

[green day]

Great game this Friday at " THE LIBRARY", aka Dragon Stadium. Here's what those in attendance should see...

* The current economic conditions are clearly evident during the evening as several teen-agers are spotted holding small 4 foot Mums, in place of the more traditional sized versions.

* Football/ Baseball Coach Larry Hughes addresses the team prior to kick-off, just to remind them of what we do when Flower Mound HS visits our campus.

* Both head coaches share a private exchange together prior to action, reflecting on how such similar records thus far, could feel so dissimilar...

* After losing the coin,creative refs and team captains forego the traditional coin flip and decide who gets the opening kick-off by a best of 3, rocks, scissors and paper.

* Both teams put on another spectacular example of why Friday nite Football in Texas is the Greatest Show on Earth.

* The crystal ball tells me the Dragons win this one, in a game that sends out a message that the Dragons are still alive and well and dangerous, 45-21...

* ...with KP in a headset and a sling, still every bit a leader on this team

[toonman]

Great game this Friday at " THE LIBRARY", aka Dragon Stadium. Here's what those in attendance should see...

** The crystal ball tells me the Dragons win this one, in a game that is thisclose, 31-24.

Go get 'em this week, everyone!

The Dragons will score more and the Dragons will concede more. I will return with my predication.

[JagFan]

My Best friend is a Ref and has been doing High school ball for 20 years and said it is not illegal. He said 70% of Refs would not flag the play its a discretion call. The rule says No deception during subsitution. Its not deception, the kid is inside the numbers when the whistle blows then jogs to the sideline and stands there. Heck, a reverse or fake field goal its all deception. Just coach your kid to check the sideline.
Look all I know is the refs called FM and I am sure Hebron and said they should have called that play illegal. I did not say if I agreed with it or nor did I say it effected the outcome of the game.

I was told that it was an old timer play that recently had been ruled illegal.

[Drphill]

OK. But that was that crew. Each crew is different and my buddy said the coach goes over all trick plays with the Refs before the game. So, the ref had an Idea it was coming.......Must have had a change of heart.! Its all how that crew reads the rule.........Look up the rule and tell me what it means to you.

[JagFan]

OK. But that was that crew. Each crew is different and my buddy said the coach goes over all trick plays with the Refs before the game. So, the ref had an Idea it was coming.......Must have had a change of heart.! Its all how that crew reads the rule.........Look up the rule and tell me what it means to you.

I will. The refs need to figure it out because it was a great play and I am sure others will try it. I will let ya know when I find the rule.

[dragons08]

Hm, there will be many college freshman there this friday night.

[JagFan]

Does SLC allow tailgating at their stadium?

[dragons08]

Does SLC allow tailgating at their stadium?

Yes sir.

Its probably encouraged! Tailgating at Dragon Stadium is pretty crazy, especially on home side. You'll see people with their RV's, kids will have tvs hooked up playing Guitar Hero, etc.

[JagFan]

Yes sir.

Its probably encouraged! Tailgating at Dragon Stadium is pretty crazy, especially on home side. You'll see people with their RV's, kids will have tvs hooked up playing Guitar Hero, etc.

Good Love a good tailgate. Some of our boosters tailgate at all the away games. So Dragon stadium should be rockin on both sides of the stadium.
And then hopefully a great game on the field. Hope both sides have safe and injury free game. :)

[slcdragonfan]

Good Love a good tailgate. Some of our boosters tailgate at all the away games. So Dragon stadium should be rockin on both sides of the stadium.
And then hopefully a great game on the field. Hope both sides have safe and injury free game. :)

I suggest you come early. The visitor side fills fast. Also, there is no tail-gating in the bus barn area, so if you want to tail-gate don't come in the south gate if the ticket takers are out, come in the SE gate (on the visitor side closest to the stands).

[slcdragonfan]

I thought David Piland did a great job last Friday and I think he adds a dimension to the QB play that had been missing. David Piland look very much like Riley Dodge in the way he plays and he certainly zing those passes.

One thing I did see when he came in is the tempo of the game picked up considerably. It was palpable. They were ready and waiting for the whistle. Also the refs got it going pretty quickly. In the Coppell game, seemed we were always waiting on the refs, and for quite a while. I think that is what many of the folks commenting have been looking for, the 'uptempo' feel of our spread.

[JagFan]

I suggest you come early. The visitor side fills fast. Also, there is no tail-gating in the bus barn area, so if you want to tail-gate don't come in the south gate if the ticket takers are out, come in the SE gate (on the visitor side closest to the stands).


Thanks for the info. I will get it into the right hands.

[slcdragonfan]

Thanks for the info. I will get it into the right hands.

And, I'm gonna charge you per parking space consumed,,,,:):o

[DrEdward]

I suggest you come early. The visitor side fills fast. Also, there is no tail-gating in the bus barn area, so if you want to tail-gate don't come in the south gate if the ticket takers are out, come in the SE gate (on the visitor side closest to the stands).

Yes, for some reason, the administration is a bit skiddish about allowing flames in the area of large gasoline and diesel storage tanks. :rolleyes:

[JagFan]

And, I'm gonna charge you per parking space consumed,,,,:):o

Then it will be a lot. FM always travels well. Like some from SLC had posted earlier the true blue fans travel and the home crowd is a lot of wanting to be seen. Very frustrating last Friday when the crowd had a hard time standing up on 3rd downs and really getting into the game.

We will bring our wallets. We do not eat a lot of bait though. We like our beef and chicken:)

[JagFan]

Yes, for some reason, the administration is a bit skiddish about allowing flames in the area of large gasoline and diesel storage tanks. :rolleyes:

Always careful and try our best to be good guests.

[ScopeUp]

I look for this to be a dog fight, FM in a must win situation and SLC coming off a big emotional victory last week. All things that could go wrong for the Dragons indeed did last Friday night, and we were still able to overcome and prevail. This Friday, welcome the Jags to the Dragon's Den. Looking forward to a great battle.

SLC 38
FM 24

[JagFan]

I look for this to be a dog fight, FM in a must win situation and SLC coming off a big emotional victory last week. All things that could go wrong for the Dragons indeed did last Friday night, and we were still able to overcome and prevail. This Friday, welcome the Jags to the Dragon's Den. Looking forward to a great battle.

SLC 38
FM 24

I too think it will be a dogfight. Both teams want it. All I can do is hope that maybe finally we will get there. I have watched FM grow from scratch and I'm getting impatient for it finally to all come together. We made great strides last year and this year we should make more. Will have to wait and see. I do no think I can predict a FM win because we have never beat SLC before. But I can hope and pray.

[FMJags490]

What does parking run for nowadays at Dragon Stadium?

[dragons08]

What does parking run for nowadays at Dragon Stadium?

Your right arm and first born.



...but for reals, its like $3

[FMJags490]

Cool, I thought it was $5, thanks.

[slcdragonfan]

What does parking run for nowadays at Dragon Stadium?

yep, $3/spot. So, if you tow a smoker behind your truck, that would probably be two spots. If you bring a honkin' RV that covers 5 spots, there ya' go. If you put up a table etc but take it down in time for us to get more parking in there, we won't charge. But like to have it coming down by 20-30 minutes before the game so everybody gets parking. This will be homecoming for us, so it will get full fast.

[Pinion]

This is the week. The game. No, THE GAME. I have eaten my crow about being wrong on the game last Friday.

But this week? This is the week. This is the game, the game that SLC loses. SLC loses 2 games before the playoffs and this is it. I thought it was the game last week, but I was more worried about what ECA was going to do in Louisiana. That's settled now. So I can focus back on my SLC prediction.

Ima go ahead and say SLC loses by <13.

Then SLC wont lose again until the 3rd round of playoffs.
Mark it on your calendars and take it to the bank.

Pinon has spoken on the subject.

Ima go play WoW now.

[dragons08]

This is the week. The game. No, THE GAME. I have eaten my crow about being wrong on the game last Friday.

But this week? This is the week. This is the game, the game that SLC loses. SLC loses 2 games before the playoffs and this is it. I thought it was the game last week, but I was more worried about what ECA was going to do in Louisiana. That's settled now. So I can focus back on my SLC prediction.

Ima go ahead and say SLC loses by <13.

Then SLC wont lose again until the 3rd round of playoffs.
Mark it on your calendars and take it to the bank.

Pinon has spoken on the subject.

Ima go play WoW now.

Yes sir wide!

Ah, i should of stopped by, I drove through Waco earlier today!

[SLC]

Good god man, that is an *** whooping. Just out of curiosity did you go to the playoff game last year when you guys played us in the 1st round? I'm curious to see if that had any effect on your score.

I can't see any of these district games being blowouts unless Lewisville is playing in them.

I dont know if this is for me..... I will assume it is... Normally people quote something they are answering...ummm...but anyway, to answer one question. Yes, I was at the playoff game last year... And each year is different, so it has no effect what so ever on my prediction for this game... My prediction is based on the fact that I havent seen the Dragons struggle like this in a loooong time and I must believe it wont continue for 3 weeks in a row... Also they are in the comfortable confines of Dragon stadium on home coming week... I know it proly upsets you because I'm predicting a big final score against your team.... I can only say that its just a prediction man.. Thats all it is, its a fan saying he thinks the team he roots for is gonna win big... Sorry it upsets you, but I dont worry about feelings of other posters and opposing fans when I'm deciding why I'm picking my team's score... And if you know anything about me at all, then you will also know that I always come back on here and eat my crow when I'm wrong... So calm down, pick your teams score and lets talk after its over...;)

[dragons08]

Long gone are the days of predictions like

SC- Pick your Score
Opponent- 7

[SLC]

This is the week. The game. No, THE GAME. I have eaten my crow about being wrong on the game last Friday.

But this week? This is the week. This is the game, the game that SLC loses. SLC loses 2 games before the playoffs and this is it. I thought it was the game last week, but I was more worried about what ECA was going to do in Louisiana. That's settled now. So I can focus back on my SLC prediction.

Ima go ahead and say SLC loses by <13.

Then SLC wont lose again until the 3rd round of playoffs.
Mark it on your calendars and take it to the bank.

Pinon has spoken on the subject.

Ima go play WoW now.

I'll just take a wild guess and say that you will do this every week from here on out.. And each time we dont lose you will say it'll be the next week and so on... Thats not really a prognostication at all... Its just throwing :Censor:it at the wall and hoping some of it sticks... I could just as easilly say this about EC and when it finally happens, claim I was right all along.....:rolleyes:

Anyways pinion... You know how I feel about you.. So its all in fun.. Good luck to Evangel the rest of the season... :)

And btw... Maybe EC will come back to Texas and take another beat down at the hands of Carroll...:D

[SLC]

Long gone are the days of predictions like

SC- Pick your Score
Opponent- 7

Na... I dont think so... It'll return my dragon friend... Not to worry.. It may be this year or next, but it will return...:cool:

[dragonbuck]

I too think it will be a dogfight. Both teams want it. All I can do is hope that maybe finally we will get there. I have watched FM grow from scratch and I'm getting impatient for it finally to all come together. We made great strides last year and this year we should make more. Will have to wait and see. I do no think I can predict a FM win because we have never beat SLC before. But I can hope and pray.

You know what they say? "thank God for unswered prayers!" :D

[dragons08]

Na... I dont think so... It'll return my dragon friend... Not to worry.. It may be this year or next, but it will return...:cool:

I sure hope you are right sir.

[ftballin11]

Na... I dont think so... It'll return my dragon friend... Not to worry.. It may be this year or next, but it will return...:cool:

Im sorry but as long as wasson is the coach it'll never be the same. It will slowly decline. Like all great programs. When the builder is gone the program falls unless you can find a replacement. Which i dont think wasson is it. Hes good but not what dodge was.

You might want to look in getting dodge back. I think he will be availible in a couple years lol:D

[Fleeman93]

I am curious how SLC gave up so many rushing yards to Marcus. Katy shut the Marcus running game down and I assumed SLC would have done the same. Was all because of the one LB being out? Any of the Marcus posters care to compare SLC's defense with Katy's defense?

[HebronHawk]

This game is huge for both teams, The winner is in good shape in the district at 2-1, the loser faces possibly missing the PO's. Flower Mound comes into the game with the Dragons 1-1 in district and 6-1 overall. They have beaten PESH (0-7), Keller FR (2-5), Haltom (2-6), N. Crowley (2-5), Desoto (3-4) and Lewisville(2-5); their lone loss was against Hebron (4-3).
Statistically the teams matchup this way:

Flower Mound (6-1, 1-1)
Offense avg: 36.0 ppg and 364.1 ypg
Defense avg: 13.3 ppg and 267.9 ypg
Turnovers (9) & Take aways(14 ): +5

SLC (5-1, 1-1)
Offense avg: 41.8 ppg and 459.2 ypg
Defense avg: 24.2 ppg and 323.0 ypg
Turnovers (10) & Take aways(10): 0

Offensively, FM throws the ball about 60% of the time. led by their QB Brandon Colquitt (136-228-5 for 1703yds) who Dragon fans should remember from the PO's last year. His main targets are WR Collin Ashley(57-804yds) and James Kelly (31-433yds). When FM does run the ball, the main threats are Hunter Lee (95-499yds) and Brad Kapten(52-222yds). Defensively, FM has shown the ability to slow down the offenses of most of the teams they have played. That said, there are many questions about the strength of that opposition as none of their wins have come against a team with a winning record. One other tendency is that FM has won the turnover battle in every one of their wins. In their only loss to Hebron, they turned the ball over 3 times and had no take aways.

With the Dragon's having so many question marks, I really need to think more about my prediction for this one. Later in the week, things might be clearer. Right now I'm just :confused:


Don't forget the 8 sacks on Colquitt in that game by the Hawks to slow the Flower Mound offense down.

[HebronHawk]

I dont know if this is for me..... I will assume it is... Normally people quote something they are answering...ummm...but anyway, to answer one question. Yes, I was at the playoff game last year... And each year is different, so it has no effect what so ever on my prediction for this game... My prediction is based on the fact that I havent seen the Dragons struggle like this in a loooong time and I must believe it wont continue for 3 weeks in a row... Also they are in the comfortable confines of Dragon stadium on home coming week... I know it proly upsets you because I'm predicting a big final score against your team.... I can only say that its just a prediction man.. Thats all it is, its a fan saying he thinks the team he roots for is gonna win big... Sorry it upsets you, but I dont worry about feelings of other posters and opposing fans when I'm deciding why I'm picking my team's score... And if you know anything about me at all, then you will also know that I always come back on here and eat my crow when I'm wrong... So calm down, pick your teams score and lets talk after its over...;)

Hebron had Flower Mound over for homecoming and now so do the Dragons. What is it about the Jags that makes them a good homecoming opponent?

[HebronHawk]

Yes, the fake punt was an illegal play with the way it was set up. That is all I know. That is the story from the people close to the coaches. The refs reviewed and saw that it should not have been allowed. ??

I will not say it cost us the game because even if that game had gone into overtime you cannot predect how it would turn out.

And the refs are part of the game. We lost and there should be no excuses. Actually them calling to say sorry made me feel worse because they should be doing their job on the field not Saturday morning.

Hard to say what's illegal about it. The receiver did not leave early. The ball was snapped and the punter passed it.

It turned out to be a fourth down pass play just like any other except the punter was a QB.

[SLC]

Hebron had Flower Mound over for homecoming and now so do the Dragons. What is it about the Jags that makes them a good homecoming opponent?

I dont know... I think you just pick someone and play em....

[FMHSJaguar]

DeSoto also had us over for homecoming, and yall remember how that one turned out...:D

[SLC]

DeSoto also had us over for homecoming, and yall remember how that one turned out...:D


We aint Desoto though... But anyway it should be a good game...;)

[FMJags490]

I dont know if this is for me..... I will assume it is... Normally people quote something they are answering...ummm...but anyway, to answer one question. Yes, I was at the playoff game last year... And each year is different, so it has no effect what so ever on my prediction for this game... My prediction is based on the fact that I havent seen the Dragons struggle like this in a loooong time and I must believe it wont continue for 3 weeks in a row... Also they are in the comfortable confines of Dragon stadium on home coming week... I know it proly upsets you because I'm predicting a big final score against your team.... I can only say that its just a prediction man.. Thats all it is, its a fan saying he thinks the team he roots for is gonna win big... Sorry it upsets you, but I dont worry about feelings of other posters and opposing fans when I'm deciding why I'm picking my team's score... And if you know anything about me at all, then you will also know that I always come back on here and eat my crow when I'm wrong... So calm down, pick your teams score and lets talk after its over...;)


1st of all, yes, it was clearly meant for you.

2nd of all, like it or not, from a mental aspect last years result does mean a lot for both teams. Maybe not as much for you guys since y'all are so used to being the big fish in the pond, but after last years playoff game we know that we can play with anyone.

3rd of all, way to overreact and take offense to a simple question. All I wanted to know was why you predicted such a one sided game. Where the hell did I say I was butt hurt over what you said? Good god, maybe you should learn read what the messages actually say rather than assume things from them. You completely took this out of proportion. I asked you a freaking question about why you think we're gonna get killed, and apparently that hurts my feelings? You must be pretty insecure with yourself and your team if you're gonna respond with something as ridiculous as that.

[SLC]

1st of all, yes, it was clearly meant for you.

2nd of all, like it or not, from a mental aspect last years result does mean a lot for both teams. Maybe not as much for you guys since y'all are so used to being the big fish in the pond, but after last years playoff game we know that we can play with anyone.

3rd of all, way to overreact and take offense to a simple question. All I wanted to know was why you predicted such a one sided game. Where the hell did I say I was butt hurt over what you said? Good god, maybe you should learn read what the messages actually say rather than assume things from them. You completely took this out of proportion. I asked you a freaking question about why you think we're gonna get killed, and apparently that hurts my feelings? You must be pretty insecure with yourself and your team if you're gonna respond with something as ridiculous as that.

On your 3rd... You seemed to me to take a defensive position after reading my post.... Maybe it was the "good god man" or something to that effect... I'm not sure... Maybe it was the tone of your post with the " thats an :Censor:ss whipping" or whatever it was.... As if to say, How can you say that"... To me thats a defensive position... Anyway I dont mean to offend.. I just dont think Carroll struggles 3 games in a row... Sorry I upset you and I look forward to a great game.... Until proven otherwise, my position will be that that the Dragons roll the Jaguars...

[slcdragonfan]

I am curious how SLC gave up so many rushing yards to Marcus. Katy shut the Marcus running game down and I assumed SLC would have done the same. Was all because of the one LB being out? Any of the Marcus posters care to compare SLC's defense with Katy's defense?

That is actually a very good question. I think you should post it in the 6-5A thread where Marcus might be reading more closely. I am curious as well.

To answer your question, no LB being out is not the whole answer, and yes, it is a part of the answer. Was Hopkins in when you played them? I thought someone was hurt? Anyway, Hopkins got 308 yards, with TD runs of 58, 71, and 64. I don't have how many rushes. So 193 of those yards came on 3 plays. The rest of the game 115 yards, seems like there was at least one big run in there too. I don't recall if all those were up the middle where Cade would be, but many were. So I am guessing here, but it seems like it made a big difference. Should a backup be able to come in and handle it? Yes. But that is the Defensive field general position, not easy to replace. Bigger problem was why couldn't we catch him when he broke free? No excuses, just what I can tell from now. Again, I would be very interested in Marcus fans take on it.

[DrEdward]

I am curious how SLC gave up so many rushing yards to Marcus. Katy shut the Marcus running game down and I assumed SLC would have done the same. Was all because of the one LB being out? Any of the Marcus posters care to compare SLC's defense with Katy's defense?

Certainly none of us can answer with certainty, but it was decidedly more than simply our starting middle linebacker being out with an injury. Also missing was a starting defensive tackle and a starting cornerback. So that is about 27% of Carroll's defensive starters missing from the lineup. That would seem to decidedly weaken Carroll's defense, especially up the middle where the big runs took place.

[dragonpants]

I am not waiting until Friday the way the defense is playing Carroll wins 73-72 :D

[JagFan]

Hard to say what's illegal about it. The receiver did not leave early. The ball was snapped and the punter passed it.

It turned out to be a fourth down pass play just like any other except the punter was a QB.

I didn't the refs that reviewed it did. I would not have known there was a problem until our Freshman game when I heard they had reviewed it and apologized. My advise is that it was a great play and someone will try it and they need to make sure it is not deemed illegal by the refs now.

[JagFan]

1st of all, yes, it was clearly meant for you.

2nd of all, like it or not, from a mental aspect last years result does mean a lot for both teams. Maybe not as much for you guys since y'all are so used to being the big fish in the pond, but after last years playoff game we know that we can play with anyone.

3rd of all, way to overreact and take offense to a simple question. All I wanted to know was why you predicted such a one sided game. Where the hell did I say I was butt hurt over what you said? Good god, maybe you should learn read what the messages actually say rather than assume things from them. You completely took this out of proportion. I asked you a freaking question about why you think we're gonna get killed, and apparently that hurts my feelings? You must be pretty insecure with yourself and your team if you're gonna respond with something as ridiculous as that.

Hey brother I know and feel your pain and frustration. FM has struggled and fought hard to earn any type of respect. SLC does respect FM to a certain point. The cold hard facts are that until we manage to beat a Hebron or SLC we will be picked to loose. They want a blow out for their own reasons not that we are bad. Hang in there and continue to fight for the Jags but against SLC we must let them have their predictions and quietly hope and pray that this is the year finally!! :)

[dragonpants]

This game is huge for both teams, The winner is in good shape in the district at 2-1, the loser faces possibly missing the PO's. Flower Mound comes into the game with the Dragons 1-1 in district and 6-1 overall. They have beaten PESH (0-7), Keller FR (2-5), Haltom (2-6), N. Crowley (2-5), Desoto (3-4) and Lewisville(2-5); their lone loss was against Hebron (4-3).
Statistically the teams matchup this way:

Flower Mound (6-1, 1-1)
Offense avg: 36.0 ppg and 364.1 ypg
Defense avg: 13.3 ppg and 267.9 ypg
Turnovers (9) & Take aways(14 ): +5

SLC (5-1, 1-1)
Offense avg: 41.8 ppg and 459.2 ypg
Defense avg: 24.2 ppg and 323.0 ypg
Turnovers (10) & Take aways(10): 0

Offensively, FM throws the ball about 60% of the time. led by their QB Brandon Colquitt (136-228-5 for 1703yds) who Dragon fans should remember from the PO's last year. His main targets are WR Collin Ashley(57-804yds) and James Kelly (31-433yds). When FM does run the ball, the main threats are Hunter Lee (95-499yds) and Brad Kapten(52-222yds). Defensively, FM has shown the ability to slow down the offenses of most of the teams they have played. That said, there are many questions about the strength of that opposition as none of their wins have come against a team with a winning record. One other tendency is that FM has won the turnover battle in every one of their wins. In their only loss to Hebron, they turned the ball over 3 times and had no take aways.

With the Dragon's having so many question marks, I really need to think more about my prediction for this one. Later in the week, things might be clearer. Right now I'm just :confused:

Keep in mind that Coppell had not beaten anyone either, that was our battle cry that week.
The Dragons will be fine as long as we have a kick butt week of practice which I understand they did last week.
That kind of preparation is what is necessary.
2 tough games in a row, I hope they do not lighten up this week because of injuries.

[Marcus Fan]

That is actually a very good question. I think you should post it in the 6-5A thread where Marcus might be reading more closely. I am curious as well.

To answer your question, no LB being out is not the whole answer, and yes, it is a part of the answer. Was Hopkins in when you played them? I thought someone was hurt? Anyway, Hopkins got 308 yards, with TD runs of 58, 71, and 64. I don't have how many rushes. So 193 of those yards came on 3 plays. The rest of the game 115 yards, seems like there was at least one big run in there too. I don't recall if all those were up the middle where Cade would be, but many were. So I am guessing here, but it seems like it made a big difference. Should a backup be able to come in and handle it? Yes. But that is the Defensive field general position, not easy to replace. Bigger problem was why couldn't we catch him when he broke free? No excuses, just what I can tell from now. Again, I would be very interested in Marcus fans take on it.

I thought the Marcus offensive line played better against Carroll then they played against Katy. I thought the defenses were close to the same with the exception that Carroll gave up the long run and Katy did not. I do believe that Katy was faster defensively which helped string out runs and minimized yardage. I thought the Carroll corners did a very nice job defending long passes..

[15Adragon]

Weather looks great again for Friday nights game between SLC and FM. Conditions and circumstances are pointing to lots of scoring.

Fri (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/wxdetail/76034?dayNum=4)
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[DragonFan0316]

Dragons have played irratically this year. Hard to predict. Based on last years playoff game and this years performance, FM looks tough. I look for another nail bitter and hope the Dragons win.

[slcdragonfan]

I thought the Marcus offensive line played better against Carroll then they played against Katy. I thought the defenses were close to the same with the exception that Carroll gave up the long run and Katy did not. I do believe that Katy was faster defensively which helped string out runs and minimized yardage. I thought the Carroll corners did a very nice job defending long passes..

Thanks, good feedback.

[JagFan]

Weather looks great again for Friday nights game between SLC and FM. Conditions and circumstances are pointing to lots of scoring.

Fri (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/wxdetail/76034?dayNum=4)
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PERFECT!!!

[HSFanatic]

And, I'm gonna charge you per parking space consumed,,,,:):o
They will be charged for every parking space occupied whether they eat them or not! :D

[Southlake Carroll Dragons]

Southlake will do good this friday. The defense just needs to wrap up and tackle. With the players getting injured and the ones who will be replacing that spot for the time being. That will make southlake better and stronger. Southlake is reloading this year. I predict this game to be 45-17. Southlake may score more than 45 points.:)

[SLC]

Southlake will do good this friday. The defense just needs to wrap up and tackle. With the players getting injured and the ones who will be replacing that spot for the time being. That will make southlake better and stronger. Southlake is reloading this year. I predict this game to be 45-17. Southlake may score more than 45 points.:)


Thats what I'm talking about... I just cant see us slumping 3 weeks in a row...

[Pinion]

I'll just take a wild guess and say that you will do this every week from here on out.. And each time we dont lose you will say it'll be the next week and so on... Thats not really a prognostication at all... Its just throwing :Censor:it at the wall and hoping some of it sticks... I could just as easilly say this about EC and when it finally happens, claim I was right all along.....:rolleyes:

Anyways pinion... You know how I feel about you.. So its all in fun.. Good luck to Evangel the rest of the season... :)

And btw... Maybe EC will come back to Texas and take another beat down at the hands of Carroll...:D


No, not every week. I need to look at who y'all have left to play. I mean, if y'all were playing that team that Abilene beat down I wouldnt suggest a loss. So, no. It's not throwing :Censor: at the wall and hoping it sticks... but thats a disgustingly funny thought.

I think ECA will do well on up into the playoffs. Depends on which side of the bracket JohnCurtis falls on.

ECA coming back to SLC.. uh, I dunno about that.. The last outing over there didnt go so well. That showing made me more sick than ECA going to play DLS in Ca and getting their arse kicked. But, it's better to get beat down by any team in Texas than anywhere else.
On a for real note, I feel like ECA did as good as they did against Bastrop this weekend because of the losses they suffered to the 2 Texas teams they played.

And, lemme not forget, today is Monday. The countdown to the next SLC loss in on.

[yankee]

for those dragon fans who think the reason we gave up 300+ yards to a running back because we were missing our starting middle linebacker are wrong...sorry, ain't gonna buy it. it's ok to admit we get manhandled in certain things...and no matter how you slice it, that's a beatdown. if marcus had any resemblance of a passing game, carroll would be sitting at 0-2 in district.

[toonman]

..........I predict this game to be 45-17. Southlake may score more than 45 points.:)

Unless there is a dramatic improvement in the Carroll run defense, FM will score more than 17 points. I think we can expect another high scoring game and I am not sure which way this will go. The winner will be by one TD.

[SLC]

for those dragon fans who think the reason we gave up 300+ yards to a running back because we were missing our starting middle linebacker are wrong...sorry, ain't gonna buy it. it's ok to admit we get manhandled in certain things...and no matter how you slice it, that's a beatdown. if marcus had any resemblance of a passing game, carroll would be sitting at 0-2 in district.

It was partly missing Cade and partly missing a D lineman... And MOSTLY not making a tackle... If we can tackle, this defense is one of the best in the state... If we cant... forget it, were mediocre at best...

[DragonFan0316]

Southlake will do good this friday. The defense just needs to wrap up and tackle. With the players getting injured and the ones who will be replacing that spot for the time being. That will make southlake better and stronger. Southlake is reloading this year. I predict this game to be 45-17. Southlake may score more than 45 points.:)

From your mouth to the football god's ears!!

[DragonFan0316]

for those dragon fans who think the reason we gave up 300+ yards to a running back because we were missing our starting middle linebacker are wrong...sorry, ain't gonna buy it. it's ok to admit we get manhandled in certain things...and no matter how you slice it, that's a beatdown. if marcus had any resemblance of a passing game, carroll would be sitting at 0-2 in district.

We got smacked down no question. We were missing two starting defensive tackles as well though. Hey Hopkins had a career day but if Marcus was better at passing he may not have gotten as many opportunities. Don't think you can assume we would have lost. IMO

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

for those dragon fans who think the reason we gave up 300+ yards to a running back because we were missing our starting middle linebacker are wrong...sorry, ain't gonna buy it. it's ok to admit we get manhandled in certain things...and no matter how you slice it, that's a beatdown. if marcus had any resemblance of a passing game, carroll would be sitting at 0-2 in district.

Could not agree more sir.

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

It was partly missing Cade and partly missing a D lineman... And MOSTLY not making a tackle... If we can tackle, this defense is one of the best in the state... If we cant... forget it, were mediocre at best...


Not sure how to digest that statement. The most basic tenant of defense is tackling. I guess you are saying that fundamentaly SLC does everything right in a schematic sense. They usually have the right D called, they are usually in the right spot etc. etc. but if they could just tackle they would be really good. I would probably argue against the statement "with good tackling SLC is a top defense", but I think I see your point.

Just seems like I am hearing "that woman is hot, except for her face". The classic butter face of defensive prowess.

[dragonpants]

Not sure how to digest that statement. The most basic tenant of defense is tackling. I guess you are saying that fundamentaly SLC does everything right in a schematic sense. They usually have the right D called, they are usually in the right spot etc. etc. but if they could just tackle they would be really good. I would probably argue against the statement "with good tackling SLC is a top defense", but I think I see your point.

Just seems like I am hearing "that woman is hot, except for her face". The classic butter face of defensive prowess.

The team that blocks and tackles the best wins 80% of the time, at any level.

[SLC]

Not sure how to digest that statement. The most basic tenant of defense is tackling. I guess you are saying that fundamentaly SLC does everything right in a schematic sense. They usually have the right D called, they are usually in the right spot etc. etc. but if they could just tackle they would be really good. I would probably argue against the statement "with good tackling SLC is a top defense", but I think I see your point.

Just seems like I am hearing "that woman is hot, except for her face". The classic butter face of defensive prowess.

Very simple... We have been in position to make tackles and have come up with either arm tackles, throwing the body at the guy or simply tackled air.. We need to wrap up and this defense can be the defense we saw the first 4 games of the year... I see ALOT of missed tackles... Get real... to a man we all thought our strong suit this season would be the defense and it can be if they would make the tackles their in position to make..

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

The team that blocks and tackles the best wins 80% of the time, at any level.

Very simple... We have been in position to make tackles and have come up with either arm tackles, throwing the body at the guy or simply tackled air.. We need to wrap up and this defense can be the defense we saw the first 4 games of the year... I see ALOT of missed tackles... Get real... to a man we all thought our strong suit this season would be the defense and it can be if they would make the tackles their in position to make..

You guys might be making my point for me. Or at the very least we are saying the same thing from different perspectives. I am simply saying that if you can not tackle you are not a "Top Defense", pure and simple. Furthermore, I think you can not make a statement like "if only we could tackle, we would be 1 of the best defenses". On one hand you admit that your chosen team can not do the one thing that defenses MUST do, yet in the same breath you try to justify that you could be one of the best defenses. Up to this point, we have witnessed that SLC does not tackle well, and to that end they are a bad defense. It's that simple.

[SLC]

You guys might be making my point for me. Or at the very least we are saying the same thing from different perspectives. I am simply saying that if you can not tackle you are not a "Top Defense", pure and simple. Furthermore, I think you can not make a statement like "if only we could tackle, we would be 1 of the best defenses". On one hand you admit that your chosen team can not do the one thing that defenses MUST do, yet in the same breath you try to justify that you could be one of the best defenses. Up to this point, we have witnessed that SLC does not tackle well, and to that end they are a bad defense. It's that simple.

Call it what you want... Apples to Oranges... I'm telling you if these kids would work on the fundamentals of tackling, they could be as good as they want to be... If they dont tackle well, they are mediocre at best...

[slcdragonfan]

for those dragon fans who think the reason we gave up 300+ yards to a running back because we were missing our starting middle linebacker are wrong...sorry, ain't gonna buy it. it's ok to admit we get manhandled in certain things...and no matter how you slice it, that's a beatdown. if marcus had any resemblance of a passing game, carroll would be sitting at 0-2 in district.

Did you see DrEdwards "27%" post?

And 193 yards were runs of 58, 71, and 64 yards for a TD's, leaving 115 yards. Seems like there were a couple other long gainers as well. Not sure how many rushes there were. Not minimizing it though.

I expect the next two games to be epic battles at this point.

[slcdragonfan]

You guys might be making my point for me. Or at the very least we are saying the same thing from different perspectives. I am simply saying that if you can not tackle you are not a "Top Defense", pure and simple. Furthermore, I think you can not make a statement like "if only we could tackle, we would be 1 of the best defenses". On one hand you admit that your chosen team can not do the one thing that defenses MUST do, yet in the same breath you try to justify that you could be one of the best defenses. Up to this point, we have witnessed that SLC does not tackle well, and to that end they are a bad defense. It's that simple.

OK, we are a bad defense. :rolleyes: Have you seen us play? You are a Lewisville fan? You will get to see it up close and personal in about 3 weeks. Then tell us what is wrong with it.;)

[farmerfan]

Did you see DrEdwards "27%" post?

And 193 yards were runs of 58, 71, and 64 yards for a TD's, leaving 115 yards. Seems like there were a couple other long gainers as well. Not sure how many rushes there were. Not minimizing it though.

I expect the next two games to be epic battles at this point.

It does sound like you are minimizing it though.
What abouT the QB who throws for 300+ when 5-6 of his completions went for 50+?
It just sounds like the justification for him having the game he did was becaue of 5 runs only when in reality a power running team like Marcus will tire out a defense and the fatigue caussed by all that pouding is what generates those long runs. It's like the defense that tries to take a moral victory for giving up 40 points because the TD's were scored on one play being a big play, other than that they shut down the opposing offense.

[dragonpants]

OK I am officially off the thread from last week.
There is no way our defense is going to have 3 mediocre games in a row.
Flower Mound has proven to be a great team this year and our secondary will need to step up this week.
Jameson is going to be busy helping out on both sides. I understand they have 2 good receivers so I am assuming they will put them on opposite sides of the ball most of the time.
I have faith that our D-line can put enough pressure on the QB to help out the secondary.
It is a new week, we won and I have vented and moved forward.
A great game to look forward to. My earlier prediction was a joke and hope it was taken that way.
I will reserve my prognostication until the end of the week.

I have not heard anything about the FM defense anyone know or hear anything?

[farmerfan]

OK, we are a bad defense. :rolleyes: Have you seen us play? You are a Lewisville fan? You will get to see it up close and personal in about 3 weeks. Then tell us what is wrong with it.;)

are you now painting with a maroon brush?;)
he's not a lewisville fan:eek:

[drgnbkr]

It does sound like you are minimizing it though.
What abouT the QB who throws for 300+ when 5-6 of his completions went for 50+?
It just sounds like the justification for him having the game he did was becaue of 5 runs only when in reality a power running team like Marcus will tire out a defense and the fatigue caussed by all that pouding is what generates those long runs. It's like the defense that tries to take a moral victory for giving up 40 points because the TD's were scored on one play being a big play, other than that they shut down the opposing offense.

Our defense the past two games has been mystifying at the very least, but there are no excuses, just poor execution, which hopefully will be improved upon from here on out.

[slcdragonfan]

It does sound like you are minimizing it though.
What abouT the QB who throws for 300+ when 5-6 of his completions went for 50+?
It just sounds like the justification for him having the game he did was becaue of 5 runs only when in reality a power running team like Marcus will tire out a defense and the fatigue caussed by all that pouding is what generates those long runs. It's like the defense that tries to take a moral victory for giving up 40 points because the TD's were scored on one play being a big play, other than that they shut down the opposing offense.

This is such a trap. One poster came on here and said we were claiming Hopkins was a great back to disguise that we have a bad defense. We turn around and review the issues with our defense and now we are making excuses and not giving Hopkins credit.

You are right. He is a great back and his line did what they were supposed to do. No excuses. But it is legit to review what happened.

[the_phoenix612]

It was partly missing Cade and partly missing a D lineman... And MOSTLY not making a tackle... If we can tackle, this defense is one of the best in the state... If we cant... forget it, were mediocre at best...

Yeah, well if I was three feet taller and could play basketball, I'd be the best center in the world...

[slcdragonfan]

are you now painting with a maroon brush?;)
he's not a lewisville fan:eek:

Couldn't tell, his location says Lewisville. So, if he is a Hebron, Flower Mound, or Lewisville fan, he can see for himself in the next 3 weeks. Otherwise, he should have already seen it and doesn't need to ask.

[farmerfan]

This is such a trap. One poster came on here and said we were claiming Hopkins was a great back to disguise that we have a bad defense. We turn around and review the issues with our defense and now we are making excuses and not giving Hopkins credit.

You are right. He is a great back and his line did what they were supposed to do. No excuses. But it is legit to review what happened.

It is legit to review but you also have to realize that in football there are about 7-10 plays over the course of a game that could have changed the outcome or the results earned from one team or another. Thsoe 5 runs were just as crucial as the other 25 or so he had.

[farmerfan]

Couldn't tell, his location says Lewisville. So, if he is a Hebron, Flower Mound, or Lewisville fan, he can see for himself in the next 3 weeks. Otherwise, he should have already seen it and doesn't need to ask.

I understand. He has said he is a Freindswood fan I believe that has family who goes to Carroll. He just happens to live in Lewisville.
You are now paiting him with the same brush I was accused of doing for the few posters on here that have caused my outburst of late ;)

[slcdragonfan]

It is legit to review but you also have to realize that in football there are about 7-10 plays over the course of a game that could have changed the outcome or the results earned from one team or another. Thsoe 5 runs were just as crucial as the other 25 or so he had.

I recognize that. Don't think it is much different that saying that if Marcus has a good punt at the end, they win, if Marcus stops us at 4th and 1, they win, etc. Legitimate thoughts, but key plays that went our way. I watched the Cy Ridge/Cy Falls game, and up until Cy Falls was 14 points behind, they had played a better game. But a few plays went Cy Ridge's way, and from there on it was light's out.

If it comes across as minimizing their game it was never intended that way. Right now I have the utmost respect for every team in this District.:notworthy

[slcdragonfan]

I understand. He has said he is a Freindswood fan I believe that has family who goes to Carroll. He just happens to live in Lewisville.
You are now paiting him with the same brush I was accused of doing for the few posters on here that have caused my outburst of late ;)

Well, there I go.;)

Maybe we can exchange brushes.

[drgnbkr]

I understand. He has said he is a Freindswood fan I believe that has family who goes to Carroll. He just happens to live in Lewisville.
You are now paiting him with the same brush I was accused of doing for the few posters on here that have caused my outburst of late ;)

I'm still trying to get this damn weedeater started...now I broke the %^&# pull rope...

[farmerfan]

I'm still trying to get this damn weedeater started...now I broke the %^&# pull rope...

HAHAHA
Totally forgot about the weedeater and dry grass and fence post.
Thank God for Boats.

[SLC13]

OK I am officially off the thread from last week.
There is no way our defense is going to have 3 mediocre games in a row.
Flower Mound has proven to be a great team this year and our secondary will need to step up this week.
Jameson is going to be busy helping out on both sides. I understand they have 2 good receivers so I am assuming they will put them on opposite sides of the ball most of the time.
I have faith that our D-line can put enough pressure on the QB to help out the secondary.
It is a new week, we won and I have vented and moved forward.
A great game to look forward to. My earlier prediction was a joke and hope it was taken that way.
I will reserve my prognostication until the end of the week.

I have not heard anything about the FM defense anyone know or hear anything?
I'm hearing that they will be missing two starting DB's from when they played Hebron 2 weeks ago and that they could have their top WR play both ways. Hopefully that bodes well for us.........

[drgnbkr]

I understand that we are South of the lake, but is there really a flower mound?

[DragonFan0316]

I understand that we are South of the lake, but is there really a flower mound?


Yes. I have seen it. It is fenced off and has a sign that declares "Flower Mound".

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

OK, we are a bad defense. :rolleyes: Have you seen us play? You are a Lewisville fan? You will get to see it up close and personal in about 3 weeks. Then tell us what is wrong with it.;)

I do live in Lewisville. Love the Farmer program for not running the Spread plague. As I have stated before, that might be due to lack of talent/coaching but regardless of the reason I like it all the same. As my screen name implies though, I am stuck in the middle of Lewisville High and Marcus. I love good Texas HS Football and over the years I have seen my fair share of good (and bad!) from those 2 schools.

FYI - telling me you are going to beat the Farmers and use that as proof of a good defense is not much of a statement :( Tell me you are going to play the Farmers with just 8 players on defense and that you will give a 5 Mississippi count before rushing and as a result you will still only give up 10 points.......then I will be impressed. Point being....SLC SHOULD kick the crap out of Lewisville, everyone else does these days.

Sorry for getting off topic. Go Jags :D

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

I understand. He has said he is a Freindswood fan I believe that has family who goes to Carroll. He just happens to live in Lewisville.
You are now paiting him with the same brush I was accused of doing for the few posters on here that have caused my outburst of late ;)


You are correct on all fronts Mr. Fan. I graduated from Friendswood HS. Live in between Lewisville and Marcus HS's. I declare no allegances but I do enjoy and respect good HS football of which I have seen from Lewisville (past) SLC (present) and Marcus (future).

[DragonFan0316]

Unless our defense comes back around to the beginning of the year every game will be a risk. Poor execution can be habit forming. Needs to end soon or it will be a short season(no practice Thanksgiving).

[15Adragon]

I'm hearing that they will be missing two starting DB's from when they played Hebron 2 weeks ago and that they could have their top WR play both ways. Hopefully that bodes well for us.........

There could be so much scoring in this one that the game will last until midnight. They will need to get some refs that are in really good shape. Lots of runnin and gunnin.

[slcdragonfan]

I do live in Lewisville. Love the Farmer program for not running the Spread plague. As I have stated before, that might be due to lack of talent/coaching but regardless of the reason I like it all the same. As my screen name implies though, I am stuck in the middle of Lewisville High and Marcus. I love good Texas HS Football and over the years I have seen my fair share of good (and bad!) from those 2 schools.

FYI - telling me you are going to beat the Farmers and use that as proof of a good defense is not much of a statement :( Tell me you are going to play the Farmers with just 8 players on defense and that you will give a 5 Mississippi count before rushing and as a result you will still only give up 10 points.......then I will be impressed. Point being....SLC SHOULD kick the crap out of Lewisville, everyone else does these days.

Sorry for getting off topic. Go Jags :D

Perhaps I implied that, but right now I have carpet burns from this District dragging us around all over the place, so I am not into predictions that far out. If you see the game, then you tell us is what I would really like, give us an outside opine on what ails us.:D

[green day]

There could be so much scoring in this one that the game will last until midnight. They will need to get some refs that are in really good shape. Lots of runnin and gunnin.

I've got a hunch the defense might show up again. Maybe we re-gained a little of that swagger by making those last two possession stops late in last week's game. We've got to get back to that attitude that bunch displayed in those first 3 games...

[Stuck_In_The_Middle]

Perhaps I implied that, but right now I have carpet burns from this District dragging us around all over the place, so I am not into predictions that far out. If you see the game, then you tell us is what I would really like, give us an outside opine on what ails us.:D


I will get the niece to get my tickets early. I will take notes. I will give you my honest opinion. That and $5.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

[15Adragon]

I've got a hunch the defense might show up again. Maybe we re-gained a little of that swagger by making those last two possession stops late in last week's game. We've got to get back to that attitude that bunch displayed in those first 3 games...

I agree. We may be nicked up a little and losing our QB in the regular season is new for us, but so was beating Lufkin in East Texas and Trinity and all of the other firsts for us.... So things could be linining up for a showdown with H and both of H and SLC could be playing on for a while. But yes, we do need to see the D return to form. A couple of early stops and we will not look back in this one!

[JagFan]

I'm hearing that they will be missing two starting DB's from when they played Hebron 2 weeks ago and that they could have their top WR play both ways. Hopefully that bodes well for us.........

We were missing one sarting DB and 2nd string went down during the Hebron game. Don't think they will start Ashley both ways again. Not a smart move IMO. He played a little on D against Lewisville. Not sure of the status of the origianl DB but he might be back this Friday. It would help. Linebackers will hit and hit hard, D line is quick. All corners and safties are very fast. Speed speed speed. Just hopes it shows up this Friday. :D

[JagFan]

I understand that we are South of the lake, but is there really a flower mound?

We are named after a big mound that has wildflowers growing on it. It is fenced off and was a meeting place for Indians a long time ago. We mainly use it for sunrise services on Easter Sunday. When you come visit next year you can come early and see it. Just east of 2499 and 3040 intersection. Beside the Tom Thumb shopping center.

[drgnbkr]

We are named after a big mound that has wildflowers growing on it. It is fenced off and was a meeting place for Indians a long time ago. We mainly use it for sunrise services on Easter Sunday. When you come visit next year you can come early and see it. Just east of 2499 and 3040 intersection. Beside the Tom Thumb shopping center.

Thanks! I'm a curious guy. One time my son and I drove to Big Bend and stopped at every historic marker we saw...very interesting.

[SLC]

Yeah, well if I was three feet taller and could play basketball, I'd be the best center in the world...

Not even close.....:rolleyes:

[Drag Goon]

We were missing one sarting DB and 2nd string went down during the Hebron game. Don't think they will start Ashley both ways again. Not a smart move IMO. He played a little on D against Lewisville. Not sure of the status of the origianl DB but he might be back this Friday. It would help. Linebackers will hit and hit hard, D line is quick. All corners and safties are very fast. Speed speed speed. Just hopes it shows up this Friday. :D

If I remember correctly, SLC used to scrimmage (or maybe regular game) FM a few years ago. SLC's current senior class (don't remember if they were Fresh or Soph at the time) did not fare well. FM was too fast for SLC.

I expect FM to be well prepared and give SLC all they can handle. SLC will be fortunate to pull out a win. SLC will need to improve on both sided of the ball, especially defense. I don't think we can say they are going to do well just because they are due to have a good game. Hopefully, the coaches can make the necessary changes to improve their technique or find the right players to make a difference.

Plan on a long night at the stadium. Lots of scoring and a Homecoming spectacle to boot. May have to set up two tailgate times.

[JagFan]

Thanks! I'm a curious guy. One time my son and I drove to Big Bend and stopped at every historic marker we saw...very interesting.

You are welcome.

[SLC13]

We were missing one sarting DB and 2nd string went down during the Hebron game. Don't think they will start Ashley both ways again. Not a smart move IMO. He played a little on D against Lewisville. Not sure of the status of the origianl DB but he might be back this Friday. It would help. Linebackers will hit and hit hard, D line is quick. All corners and safties are very fast. Speed speed speed. Just hopes it shows up this Friday. :D
I work with a couple FM fans and figured they were poor-mouthing a bit. :eek::D

I would agree with you about about playing Ashley both ways, but the guys I work with think it has to be done. It would also seem that the coach is considering it by giving him some plays in your game with Lewisville. Guess we'll see for sure on Friday.......:D

[ScopeUp]

Just been tracking the district stats, appears that FM has the #1 ranked defense. With Piland's first start coming up in a huge venue (homecoming) and a win pretty much solidifies a playoff spot, how much of a factor do you think that the FM defense will present problems for the Carroll Offense?
I agree with what most are saying on the board that the Carroll D will get the swagger back this week and play like they were early in the year. Football is a game of emotions, ups and downs and I look for emotions to run high this Friday night. Wasson and Company will have his troops ready for another battle in the Dragon Den. Looking forward to watching Piland in action

[dragons08]

What worries me is with Wasson being rather conservative with RD and KP at the reins, is that he'll be even more conservative with Piland getting his first start.

But, from what I heard apparently Wasson got aggresive with Piland in there, so I don't know, we'll see.

[HebronHawk]

OK I am officially off the thread from last week.
There is no way our defense is going to have 3 mediocre games in a row.
Flower Mound has proven to be a great team this year and our secondary will need to step up this week.
Jameson is going to be busy helping out on both sides. I understand they have 2 good receivers so I am assuming they will put them on opposite sides of the ball most of the time.
I have faith that our D-line can put enough pressure on the QB to help out the secondary.
It is a new week, we won and I have vented and moved forward.
A great game to look forward to. My earlier prediction was a joke and hope it was taken that way.
I will reserve my prognostication until the end of the week.

I have not heard anything about the FM defense anyone know or hear anything?

The FM defense is pretty salty. We had trouble moving the ball consistently on them. Fortunately, we got them to break a few times and that resulted in scores.

[JagFan]

I work with a couple FM fans and figured they were poor-mouthing a bit. :eek::D

I would agree with you about about playing Ashley both ways, but the guys I work with think it has to be done. It would also seem that the coach is considering it by giving him some plays in your game with Lewisville. Guess we'll see for sure on Friday.......:D

The coaches would play Ashley every down on both sides of the ball plus special teams if they could.. I am sure they will use him on some defensive plays but not full time. No, it does not have to be done, but putting him in on some pass protection does limit them throwing that way. We will see what they decide Friday. We need him full speed ahead on offense.

[sportstud288]

If SLC secondary can double team Ashley or linebackers can knock him off his routes then SLC beats Jags like a drum....Jags defense must pressure Piland to flush him out of the pocket but better watch the QB draw cause he can run too.

[ScopeUp]

One X Factor could be Piland's ability to run, however hope he looks to throw once he gets outside the pocket bc that is where big plays can occcur. Plus, we can't afford to get him hurt. Williamson is behind him, and from the JV games I've seen, he is not the answer. Should be a great chess match

[SLC]

What worries me is with Wasson being rather conservative with RD and KP at the reins, is that he'll be even more conservative with Piland getting his first start.

But, from what I heard apparently Wasson got aggresive with Piland in there, so I don't know, we'll see.

I would agree with this premise.. except for the fact that at this point we can ill afford to hold back anything... I say he lets David play and we will see Riley esque plays from here on out... I could be wrong but I've seen him alot and believe this will be the case...

[dragons08]

I would agree with this premise.. except for the fact that at this point we can ill afford to hold back anything... I say he lets David play and we will see Riley esque plays from here on out... I could be wrong but I've seen him alot and believe this will be the case...

I hope you are right....

[Joseph McCabe]

One X Factor could be Piland's ability to run, however hope he looks to throw once he gets outside the pocket bc that is where big plays can occcur. Plus, we can't afford to get him hurt. Williamson is behind him, and from the JV games I've seen, he is not the answer. Should be a great chess match

Who are SLC two best o-linemen what positions do they they play ?

[JagFan]

If SLC secondary can double team Ashley or linebackers can knock him off his routes then SLC beats Jags like a drum....Jags defense must pressure Piland to flush him out of the pocket but better watch the QB draw cause he can run too.

:D

[15Adragon]

One X Factor could be Piland's ability to run, however hope he looks to throw once he gets outside the pocket bc that is where big plays can occcur. Plus, we can't afford to get him hurt. Williamson is behind him, and from the JV games I've seen, he is not the answer. Should be a great chess match

I was at the JV game last week and KW was throwing some sweet deep balls. His accuracy was impressive.

[DragonFan0316]

I was at the JV game last week and KW was throwing some sweet deep balls. His accuracy was impressive.

Williamson can do the job. He is as accurate as Padron and a strong arm. Piland can run though. Should be interesting.

[15Adragon]

Williamson can do the job. He is as accurate as Padron and a strong arm. Piland can run though. Should be interesting.

It sure is fun to watch! All you have to do is watch a few minutes of the Cowboy game to realize how much we appreciate HS Football. :cool:

[toonman]

Call it what you want... Apples to Oranges... I'm telling you if these kids would work on the fundamentals of tackling, they could be as good as they want to be... If they dont tackle well, they are mediocre at best...

..and all this comes down to coaching.

[slcdragonfan]

Williamson can do the job. He is as accurate as Padron and a strong arm. Piland can run though. Should be interesting.

I sure like the deep pass, it opens up quite a few things. But I like that quick QB run up the middle as well, both keep the opposing team off balance. I guess that begs the question, who will we use as QB on Friday? Piland certainly earned his spot, did a nice job of going uptempo almost immediately, you felt the palpable change in the speed of the offense. However, I think Kyle would probably have done the same given the opportunity. Nice to have such choices.:)

[toonman]

Thanks! I'm a curious guy. One time my son and I drove to Big Bend and stopped at every historic marker we saw...very interesting.

Big Bend is awesome! (Sorry about the non-football comment)

[toonman]

I... I say he lets David play and we will see Riley esque plays from here on out..

That is what I saw last week and I am hoping for more of the same this week.

[DragonFan0316]

It sure is fun to watch! All you have to do is watch a few minutes of the Cowboy game to realize how much we appreciate HS Football. :cool:


Roger that!!

[SLCFan]

I sure like the deep pass, it opens up quite a few things. But I like that quick QB run up the middle as well, both keep the opposing team off balance. I guess that begs the question, who will we use as QB on Friday? Piland certainly earned his spot, did a nice job of going uptempo almost immediately, you felt the palpable change in the speed of the offense. However, I think Kyle would probably have done the same given the opportunity. Nice to have such choices.:)

Piland looked real good last week, but I also like Williamson... Piland proved he can get it done last week, I'd say give another shot at it.

[15Adragon]

Main thing for these young QB's will be turnovers. KP was really good at protecting the football. We are in the heart of our district schedule and we need a good balance of risk-reward decisions and those are tough choices in the heat of the battle. We can't expect these boys to always handle all of this, but we can hope for the best.

I have been an advocate for aggressive play offensively, but I can understand that it would make sense to tighten things up just a little and play to the strengths of the kids on the field and put them in the best possible situations. These next 2 weeks will be fun to watch. We could see anything - a defensive battle could break out (based on some of the posts this week) or we could have a track meet with 80 or 90 pts. Enjoy!

[slcdragonfan]

Main thing for these young QB's will be turnovers. KP was really good at protecting the football. We are in the heart of our district schedule and we need a good balance of risk-reward decisions and those are tough choices in the heat of the battle. We can't expect these boys to always handle all of this, but we can hope for the best.

I have been an advocate for aggressive play offensively, but I can understand that it would make sense to tighten things up just a little and play to the strengths of the kids on the field and put them in the best possible situations. These next 2 weeks will be fun to watch. We could see anything - a defensive battle could break out (based on some of the posts this week) or we could have a track meet with 80 or 90 pts. Enjoy!

One good thing; the game film is limited on Piland and probably non-existent on Williamson. So, from a preparation standpoint, we can keep the other team guessing a bit.;)

[yankee]

Did you see DrEdwards "27%" post?

And 193 yards were runs of 58, 71, and 64 yards for a TD's, leaving 115 yards. Seems like there were a couple other long gainers as well. Not sure how many rushes there were. Not minimizing it though.

I expect the next two games to be epic battles at this point.

last time i checked, preventing big plays is part of playing defense...the defense needs to be in a "bend not break" mode, and giving up 3 runs of 58+ yards would seem to qualify as breaking...

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

For the last couple of years on here people from SLC have really talked up Williamson. I'm somewhat surprised that Piland is being spoken of so highly and seems to be the fan favorite at this point. I guess his recent performance earned that praise. Hope it works out well for both of them.

[dragonpants]

BKR and I, well mainly BKR are organizing a tailgate for the FM game this Friday.
We will set up in the East side of the parking lot.
BKR says he will set up a large American Flag so everyone will be able to find us.
PM if you are planning on coming so we can try to save as much space as possible.

[slcdragonfan]

last time i checked, preventing big plays is part of playing defense...the defense needs to be in a "bend not break" mode, and giving up 3 runs of 58+ yards would seem to qualify as breaking...

Hey, guess what, same here!:rolleyes:

My point was that the bus isn't completely in the ditch and burning, it has a flat and needs repairing. And, of course (this is for you FF), we played a top-notch RB. Don't want to minimize his role at all.

However, we had that flat two week running, because the hurdling RB from Coppell also had a good night as well if I recall, don't know the numbers for him.

[DragonFan0316]

For the last couple of years on here people from SLC have really talked up Williamson. I'm somewhat surprised that Piland is being spoken of so highly and seems to be the fan favorite at this point. I guess his recent performance earned that praise. Hope it works out well for both of them.

We have been alternating Piland and Williamson on JV Green(A team). David benefited from the luck of the draw. Williamson was the JV QB last week thus Piland got the opportunity. We knew he had potential but he really shined when he got in. That 4th and 1 run is what really won me over. That took guts and effort.

[drgnbkr]

For the last couple of years on here people from SLC have really talked up Williamson. I'm somewhat surprised that Piland is being spoken of so highly and seems to be the fan favorite at this point. I guess his recent performance earned that praise. Hope it works out well for both of them.

Clear your PM box..it's full!

[Maxthedog]

Hey, guess what, same here!:rolleyes:

My point was that the bus isn't completely in the ditch and burning, it has a flat and needs repairing. And, of course (this is for you FF), we played a top-notch RB. Don't want to minimize his role at all.

However, we had that flat two week running, because the hurdling RB from Coppell also had a good night as well if I recall, don't know the numbers for him.

Flat,,,,,like the picture of the run-over Armadillo, with yellow stripes painted over it FLAT!
FM can light it up, LET's GIT that flat fixed before Friday!

[Pinion]

Is it Friday yet?

SLC.. #2 loss on it's way.

[15Adragon]

Is it Friday yet?

SLC.. #2 loss on it's way.

Now that prediction is a shocker! My wife is from N Louisiana and I don't hold that against her, but maybe I need to reconsider.:rolleyes:

[SLC]

We have been alternating Piland and Williamson on JV Green(A team). David benefited from the luck of the draw. Williamson was the JV QB last week thus Piland got the opportunity. We knew he had potential but he really shined when he got in. That 4th and 1 run is what really won me over. That took guts and effort.

I've seen both and like both... I just think David can make the same throws Kyle can, but David is more of a threat when he decides to run... He's got alot of Riley traits about him... Its not a knock on Kyle Williamson either. As I said, I like both alot... And either could be starters for other teams.. Hey after all the crap thats gone on, Having a slew of QB's to choose from is a welcome problem...

[SLC]

Is it Friday yet?

SLC.. #2 loss on it's way.


You clown.... BWAHAAHHAHAHA......:D

[Pinion]

Now that prediction is a shocker! My wife is from N Louisiana and I don't hold that against her, but maybe I need to reconsider.:rolleyes:

Where in N_La is she from?

[We Are FM]

Play off question
OK I have figured out that divisions are based on enrollment with in your district. Got that one. What is the determining factor for a team to be in the top of the regional playoff bracket or the bottom of the regional bracket? Is that also based on enrollment or record of play for the season?

We will also be tailgating – no fish bait either. Beef and chicken only, Fajitas I think!

[15Adragon]

I've seen both and like both... I just think David can make the same throws Kyle can, but David is more of a threat when he decides to run... He's got alot of Riley traits about him... Its not a knock on Kyle Williamson either. As I said, I like both alot... And either could be starters for other teams.. Hey after all the crap thats gone on, Having a slew of QB's to choose from is a welcome problem...

HC said in the ST blog that DP would start this week. This is what we expected based on last week.

[15Adragon]

Where in N_La is she from?
Ruston. Not sure if the Football is any good ovur thar, but the peaches are excellent.

[Pinion]

Ruston. Not sure if the Football is any good ovur thar, but the peaches are excellent.

Ruston. The football is mediocre usually, this year, not so much. Ruston is usually in a pretty tough district for 5A Louisiana.

yes, the peaches there are remarkable.

[DragonFan0316]

Ruston. The football is mediocre usually, this year, not so much. Ruston is usually in a pretty tough district for 5A Louisiana.

yes, the peaches there are remarkable.

Didn't Burt Jones play there many moons ago?

[SLC]

HC said in the ST blog that DP would start this week. This is what we expected based on last week.

Excellent......:cool:

[15Adragon]

Didn't Burt Jones play there many moons ago?
I am impressed DragonFan0316! You really know your Ruston Football. Yes, he was nicknamed "The Ruston Rifle". Also, Terry Bradshaw played at La tech in Ruston ... I think he was from Shreveport. Enough of this I don't know nuthin bout Ruston Football only Dragon Football.

[LAHawk]

Play off question
OK I have figured out that divisions are based on enrollment with in your district. Got that one. What is the determining factor for a team to be in the top of the regional playoff bracket or the bottom of the regional bracket? Is that also based on enrollment or record of play for the season?

We will also be tailgating – no fish bait either. Beef and chicken only, Fajitas I think!

The two teams in each division are seeded based on their respective district standings.

Let's say FM and Coppell are the D1 reps for 6-5A. If FM is 4-1 and Coppell is 3-2 in district play, FM would be in the "top" of the bracket and play the second place D1 team from 5-5A. Coppell would be in the "bottom" half and play the first place D1 team from 5-5A.

Above scenerio is hyperthetical only, and not intended to suggest a prediction. :)

[SLC]

The two teams in each division are seeded based on their respective district standings.

Let's say FM and Coppell are the D1 reps for 6-5A. If FM is 4-1 and Coppell is 3-2 in district play, FM would be in the "top" of the bracket and play the second place D1 team from 5-5A. Coppell would be in the "bottom" half and play the first place D1 team from 5-5A.

Above scenerio is hyperthetical only, and not intended to suggest a prediction. :)



:D:D

[LAHawk]

Didn't Burt Jones play there many moons ago?

One of the best qb's to don the Purple & Gold.:notworthy

[Grapeguy]

That is actually a very good question. I think you should post it in the 6-5A thread where Marcus might be reading more closely. I am curious as well.

To answer your question, no LB being out is not the whole answer, and yes, it is a part of the answer. Was Hopkins in when you played them? I thought someone was hurt? Anyway, Hopkins got 308 yards, with TD runs of 58, 71, and 64. I don't have how many rushes. So 193 of those yards came on 3 plays. The rest of the game 115 yards, seems like there was at least one big run in there too. I don't recall if all those were up the middle where Cade would be, but many were. So I am guessing here, but it seems like it made a big difference. Should a backup be able to come in and handle it? Yes. But that is the Defensive field general position, not easy to replace. Bigger problem was why couldn't we catch him when he broke free? No excuses, just what I can tell from now. Again, I would be very interested in Marcus fans take on it.

His first long run (not for a TD) was 57 yards. If you do the math he averaged pretty much at 3 yards for most of his carries (19 for 58) and 62.5 for the others :eek:(4 for 250yds.)

[green day]

His first long run (not for a TD) was 57 yards. If you do the math he averaged pretty much at 3 yards for most of his carries (19 for 58) and 62.5 for the others :eek:(4 for 250yds.)

I'm no DC but too many of these breakout yards probably occur when safeties think they're linebackers...watch the film... it can be fixed

[HebronHawk]

One good thing; the game film is limited on Piland and probably non-existent on Williamson. So, from a preparation standpoint, we can keep the other team guessing a bit.;)

A lot of teams will do the same things regardless of personnel so you can prepare based on the team trends. Shouldn't matter a whole lot who the QB is.

[HebronHawk]

Play off question
OK I have figured out that divisions are based on enrollment with in your district. Got that one. What is the determining factor for a team to be in the top of the regional playoff bracket or the bottom of the regional bracket? Is that also based on enrollment or record of play for the season?

We will also be tailgating – no fish bait either. Beef and chicken only, Fajitas I think!

How they finish in the district determines the seeding.

[SLC]

A lot of teams will do the same things regardless of personnel so you can prepare based on the team trends. Shouldn't matter a whole lot who the QB is.

Agree 100%....

[ScopeUp]

Big plays are part of the game, limiting explosive plays and being in the positive on the turnover margin is usually the stat that coorelates best to a win.

[SLC]

Big plays are part of the game, limiting explosive plays and being in the positive on the turnover margin is usually the stat that coorelates best to a win.

Turnovers can kill even the best of teams....

[green day]

Big plays are part of the game, limiting explosive plays and being in the positive on the turnover margin is usually the stat that coorelates best to a win.

Help. Need difference between big play and explosive play. Thanks, I'll hang up and listen for the answer

[slcdragonfan]

I'm no DC but too many of these breakout yards probably occur when safeties think they're linebackers...watch the film... it can be fixed

That's kind of what I was thinking, but the deeper concern is why can't our DB's outrun an RB? Is he really that fast? They have caught up with other backs this year. Heck, I even remember #77 in the Plano West game going out and running down an RB.:eek:

[SLCbacker]

I'm no DC but too many of these breakout yards probably occur when safeties think they're linebackers...watch the film... it can be fixed

You are exactly right GD. The safeties were in the box all night. I kept waiting for an adjustment to drop one, but it never came. Dropping a safety would have stopped the long runs.

[dragonbuck]

BKR and I, well mainly BKR are organizing a tailgate for the FM game this Friday.
We will set up in the East side of the parking lot.
BKR says he will set up a large American Flag so everyone will be able to find us.
PM if you are planning on coming so we can try to save as much space as possible.

I will look for the large American Flag. I will be the idiot in the Obama shirt. Never mind, that is redundant, and something I would never do.

[dragons08]

I will look for the large American Flag. I will be the idiot in the Obama shirt. Never mind, that is redundant, and something I would never do.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :notworthy

[dragonbuck]

You are exactly right GD. The safeties were in the box all night. I kept waiting for an adjustment to drop one, but it never came. Dropping a safety would have stopped the long runs.

That's what I kept saying. "where are the safeties?" I can understand getting by stunting/blitzing LB's, but why were the safeties within 2-3 yards of the L.O.S.? Too many in the box against a running team, and the adjustment wasn't made until the late drives. Then guess what? we stopped them twice.

[HebronHawk]

That's kind of what I was thinking, but the deeper concern is why can't our DB's outrun an RB? Is he really that fast? They have caught up with other backs this year. Heck, I even remember #77 in the Plano West game going out and running down an RB.:eek:

Darius Staten from Hebron is very fast. :D

[drgnbkr]

I will look for the large American Flag. I will be the idiot in the Obama shirt. Never mind, that is redundant, and something I would never do.

:notworthy

[dragonpants]

That's kind of what I was thinking, but the deeper concern is why can't our DB's outrun an RB? Is he really that fast? They have caught up with other backs this year. Heck, I even remember #77 in the Plano West game going out and running down an RB.:eek:

Hopkins is fast, but the other thing is that by the time he got to DB's he was at full speed and the DB's had to turn and chase him from a dead stop.

[dragonpants]

That's kind of what I was thinking, but the deeper concern is why can't our DB's outrun an RB? Is he really that fast? They have caught up with other backs this year. Heck, I even remember #77 in the Plano West game going out and running down an RB.:eek:

I understand big plays happen, but IMO it is a tackling issue, there was one run where he was untouched but 2 others he broke arm tackles and we just did not wrap him up.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Clear your PM box..it's full!

bkr - sorry about that... it's cleared now

[DragonFan0316]

Hopkins is fast, but the other thing is that by the time he got to DB's he was at full speed and the DB's had to turn and chase him from a dead stop.

This happens because everyone is so close to the line of scrimmage. If they were covering receivers down field like they are against a spread (which the see 90% of the time) they would have had a shorter distance and better angles. Hopkins is good but the system is built around him. Big lineman, 2 tight ends and a lead blocker. We just don't see this type of offense often and it took us until late in the game to adjust.

[Maxthedog]

This happens because everyone is so close to the line of scrimmage. If they were covering receivers down field like they are against a spread (which the see 90% of the time) they would have had a shorter distance and better angles. Hopkins is good but the system is built around him. Big lineman, 2 tight ends and a lead blocker. We just don't see this type of offense often and it took us until late in the game to adjust.

If we play make the PO's and play Allen, we had better learn how to deal with a BIG O line!!!!!!!

[drgnbkr]

If we play make the PO's and play Allen, we had better learn how to deal with a BIG O line!!!!!!!

Allen will not be available for their semi-annual beat-down, they are D-1.:D Just having fun..they are having a good year, if they can figure out how to compete with Trinity.

[slcdragonfan]

Allen will not be available for their semi-annual beat-down, they are D-1.:D Just having fun..they are having a good year, if they can figure out how to compete with Trinity.

They look quite a bit different this year, and so do we.

[SLC]

Allen will not be available for their semi-annual beat-down, they are D-1.:D Just having fun..they are having a good year, if they can figure out how to compete with Trinity.


They sure are... Allen has came a long way with there program.... Ia m impressed with them alot... I tend to think if they were to play Trinity again it would be a toss up....

[dragonpants]

If we play make the PO's and play Allen, we had better learn how to deal with a BIG O line!!!!!!!

They will go Div 1 since PE is not going to make the playoffs but they run the spread so totally different look.

Their O line was not pushing around and we had Hopkins bottled up on two of those runs just did not tackle well.

The Marcus O line is far superior to Allen's. These guys were huge, not fat, huge, the Allen boys are pudgy and do not move well.

[slcdragonfan]

They will go Div 1 since PE is not going to make the playoffs but they run the spread so totally different look.

Their O line was not pushing around and we had Hopkins bottled up on two of those runs just did not tackle well.

The Marcus O line is far superior to Allen's. These guys were huge, no fat huge, the Allen boys are pudgy and do not move well.

Watch out, the 'respect your opponent' police are out making sure you are politically correct.;)

[dragonpants]

Watch out, the 'respect your opponent' police are out making sure you are politically correct.;)

They are not our opponent nor will they be this year, so no violations here.

Bring on the Po po.

[SLC]

They will go Div 1 since PE is not going to make the playoffs but they run the spread so totally different look.

Their O line was not pushing around and we had Hopkins bottled up on two of those runs just did not tackle well.

The Marcus O line is far superior to Allen's. These guys were huge, not fat, huge, the Allen boys are pudgy and do not move well.


But they have been running the ball down peoples throat... I believe over 300 yards rushing against Plano...

[farmerfan]

Watch out, the 'respect your opponent' police are out making sure you are politically correct.;)

The irony in a Carroll fan mocking me for doing the exact thing they have done to other fans that have suggested over the last 6 years that their teams were only 2-3 plays away from beating Carroll.;)

[SLC]

The irony in a Carroll fan mocking me for doing the exact thing they have done to other fans that have suggested over the last 6 years that their teams were only 2-3 plays away from beating Carroll.;)

:laugh:laugh

[slcdragonfan]

The irony in a Carroll fan mocking me for doing the exact thing they have done to other fans that have suggested over the last 6 years that their teams were only 2-3 plays away from beating Carroll.;)

;)....but not me. Of course, we can continue to use that brush of green paint.

And it is all in good fun. Seems to me Coppell got those 2-3 plays. and I don't think anyone would argue that but for a bad punt, great pass, 4th and 1, and another great run?, we would be in a deep hole and Marcus might have rushed the field. But then again, that is 3-4 plays, not 2-3.

[DragonFan0316]

If we play make the PO's and play Allen, we had better learn how to deal with a BIG O line!!!!!!!

Agreed. D Tackles are patch work right now. One is former O-Line. They will work it out.

[DragonFan0316]

They sure are... Allen has came a long way with there program.... Ia m impressed with them alot... I tend to think if they were to play Trinity again it would be a toss up....

I disagree my SLC brother. Trinity will finish the season unscathed unless they get hit with a lot of key injuries. It would need to be a lot too because they are deep. Aleen is a good team but this year there is Trinity and then everyone else. IMO.:notworthy

[DragonFan0316]

Back to this weeks game with FM. Not that this will rock anyones world but I am finally ready to guess at an outcome.

SLC 42
FM 31

[SLCbacker]

That's what I kept saying. "where are the safeties?" I can understand getting by stunting/blitzing LB's, but why were the safeties within 2-3 yards of the L.O.S.? Too many in the box against a running team, and the adjustment wasn't made until the late drives. Then guess what? we stopped them twice.

See previous posts re "slow processor" :) Can't wait til Friday!!!

[SLC13]

Back to this weeks game with FM. Not that this will rock anyones world but I am finally ready to guess at an outcome.

SLC 42
FM 31

Just the predicition I 'd waiting on........:D

SLC 37
FM 24

[green day]

First, the first one to summarize everyone's score predictions and re-cap with one post gets the prize!

Second, I predict the catbirds to be plentiful Friday nite the minute something goes wrong. This is our first game at the "Library" since that dastardly district loss at Coppell and the armchair QB's will be out, mark my word. My guess is many will be found in the seats with the backs. I, for one, will laugh at them and keep my comments to myself. I also plan on standing more than sitting so avoid sitting behind me if you like to sit and gripe...

[SLCfan2407]

They will go Div 1 since PE is not going to make the playoffs but they run the spread so totally different look.

Their O line was not pushing around and we had Hopkins bottled up on two of those runs just did not tackle well.

The Marcus O line is far superior to Allen's. These guys were huge, not fat, huge, the Allen boys are pudgy and do not move well.

Huge Oline?? ill give it to you that their tackles were large but our DE's are supposed to be our studs. Their center, and both Guards were tiny and that is where their back took off for 2 or 3 of his long TD runs. Allens line is large, and they are very sound in their technique! If you think Marcus' oline is superior you are in for a rude awakening

[BlameNoOne]

why do you call it "The Library"?

[dragonpants]

First, the first one to summarize everyone's score predictions and re-cap with one post gets the prize!

Second, I predict the catbirds to be plentiful Friday nite the minute something goes wrong. This is our first game at the "Library" since that dastardly district loss at Coppell and the armchair QB's will be out, mark my word. My guess is many will be found in the seats with the backs. I, for one, will laugh at them and keep my comments to myself. I also plan on standing more than sitting so avoid sitting behind me if you like to sit and gripe...

My seat has a back and we stand, much to the chagrin of the lady in front of me who prefers to talk about redecorating her house I got her to leave before half time the last game so maybe she will not show, but no bother the rest of the folks sitting around me are solid fans

[DragonFan0316]

First, the first one to summarize everyone's score predictions and re-cap with one post gets the prize!

Second, I predict the catbirds to be plentiful Friday nite the minute something goes wrong. This is our first game at the "Library" since that dastardly district loss at Coppell and the armchair QB's will be out, mark my word. My guess is many will be found in the seats with the backs. I, for one, will laugh at them and keep my comments to myself. I also plan on standing more than sitting so avoid sitting behind me if you like to sit and gripe...

That makes two of us! You will hear me no matter where you sit. Our fans are great and all but they don't know how to cheer or chant. Most are there to see or be seen and don't watch the game. Some others only come out because we have won big the last few years. This year it is down and dirty and we need hearty fans to pump the team up. Count me in win or lose. Ask the Coppell fans that sttod behind me on the Dragon side 2 weeks ago. Gooooo Dragonsssssssss!

[slcdragonfan]

why do you call it "The Library"?

...its as quiet as....

[drgnbkr]

...its as quiet as....

Again, Nacogdoches of 2 years ago notwithstanding, our road crowds are our best. The home decorating conversations take place at Cheesecake Factory, or Trulucks, when the boys are on the road...

[dragonpants]

Again, Nacogdoches of 2 years ago notwithstanding, our road crowds are our best. The home decorating conversations take place at Cheesecake Factory, or Trulucks, when the boys are on the road...

I think my comment" you know there is an F...ing football game going on don't you" let her know why I am there, I did feel bad about the language after but I am there to cheer for my beloved Dragons period. Her husband did not have a problem with my comment or did not say anything.
If you have to be seen then go walk around and eat the damn bait and certainly do not get poed at me on third down when I am screaming.
She is not attractive either.

[CCCSportsFan]

I'm real fortunate with the location of my seats... In front of me is one of the backup, possible starting QB's, parents and behind me are the parents of one of last years very celebrated O-linemen... Lot's of screaming and great Dragon football talk all game :)

[drgnbkr]

I think my comment" you know there is an F...ing football game going on don't you" let her know why I am there, I did feel bad about the language after but I am there to cheer for my beloved Dragons period. Her husband did not have a problem with my comment or did not say anything.
If you have to be seen then go walk around and eat the damn bait and certainly do not get poed at me on third down when I am screaming.
She is not attractive either.

My wife doesn't travel well..even to home games..:p I give her credit for staying out of the fray...Why do these women go to the games if it is for social reasons?

[SLC]

That makes two of us! You will hear me no matter where you sit. Our fans are great and all but they don't know how to cheer or chant. Most are there to see or be seen and don't watch the game. Some others only come out because we have won big the last few years. This year it is down and dirty and we need hearty fans to pump the team up. Count me in win or lose. Ask the Coppell fans that sttod behind me on the Dragon side 2 weeks ago. Gooooo Dragonsssssssss!


There were a few standing behind me as well.... I wanted to punch them in the face...:D

[SLC]

I think my comment" you know there is an F...ing football game going on don't you" let her know why I am there, I did feel bad about the language after but I am there to cheer for my beloved Dragons period. Her husband did not have a problem with my comment or did not say anything.
If you have to be seen then go walk around and eat the damn bait and certainly do not get poed at me on third down when I am screaming.
She is not attractive either.


:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

[SLC]

My wife doesn't travel well..even to home games..:p I give her credit for staying out of the fray...Why do these women go to the games if it is for social reasons?


I dont know... But so many of them stare at you when you scream and yell and get pumped up.... Its like they have no clue that your there to cheer for the team...

[dragonpants]

My wife doesn't travel well..even to home games..:p I give her credit for staying out of the fray...Why do these women go to the games if it is for social reasons?

My significant other is traveling better each week. Last week was weird for her because she is Marcus grad....lol
She was decked out in green and black, dragon earrings to match.
Her loyalty has changed now that she has 2 younger Dragons to cheer for.
Funny how that works.
She is rapidly grasping how all of this works.
She understands that she will be doing some traveling in November and December if she wants to spend time with me.

[toonman]

Back to this weeks game with FM. Not that this will rock anyones world but I am finally ready to guess at an outcome.

SLC 42
FM 31

You are right. It is Wednesday and I need to make a prediction. I nailed it last week with an exact score prediction; so this week :-

SC - 42
FM - 38

[toonman]

...She understands that she will be doing some traveling in November and December if she wants to spend time with me.

Let's hope that you will have 6 weekends of travelling after November 8th 2008.

[DragonFan0316]

My significant other is traveling better each week. Last week was weird for her because she is Marcus grad....lol
She was decked out in green and black, dragon earrings to match.
Her loyalty has changed now that she has 2 younger Dragons to cheer for.
Funny how that works.
She is rapidly grasping how all of this works.
She understands that she will be doing some traveling in November and December if she wants to spend time with me.

I am the luckiest man in the world. My wife loves the games and knows more about them than most men.:)

[DragonFan0316]

There were a few standing behind me as well.... I wanted to punch them in the face...:D

I was thinking more like a baseball bat but you are much kinder and gentler than I. It is the sicilian in me.:D

[SLC]

I am the luckiest man in the world. My wife loves the games and knows more about them than most men.:)

Mine doesnt... But then again she doesnt come to the games and pretend she does, or paint her nails or such....

[SLC]

I was thinking more like a baseball bat but you are much kinder and gentler than I. It is the sicilian in me.:D

Whats funny is they didnt show up there till right before over time... And they wouldnt shut up...

[Drgnlady]

I am the luckiest man in the world. My wife loves the games and knows more about them than most men.:)

I'd like to meet your wife. Tell her to come join the board. We need a few more of us girls on here.;)

[DragonFan0316]

Whats funny is they didnt show up there till right before over time... And they wouldnt shut up...

We must have been sitting close together. Oooooh they still make me mad.:mad: If you want to root for the other team please sit on your side. Booing our school song and the 2 FU's we got in the parking lot didn't endear me to Coppell fans in general. Love there team though. Spunky little guys.

[SLC]

We must have been sitting close together. Oooooh they still make me mad.:mad: If you want to root for the other team please sit on your side. Booing our school song and the 2 FU's we got in the parking lot didn't endear me to Coppell fans in general. Love there team though. Spunky little guys.

I was sitting at the 50 yd line... first row at the top...

[BlameNoOne]

Whats funny is they didnt show up there till right before over time... And they wouldnt shut up...

Well... were they talking about football or house decorating? My guess is they probaly just left Anemia's with a few margaritas in them, saw the lights still on and came out to cheer. Since there was no parking they ended up on your side because it was a shorter walk.:D

[DragonFan0316]

I was sitting at the 50 yd line... first row at the top...

I was last row as well but I was lucky enough to see the winng catch just to my right. Guess there were a lot more Coppell fans behind us than I thought.

[SLC]

I was last row as well but I was lucky enough to see the winng catch just to my right. Guess there were a lot more Coppell fans behind us than I thought.


I guess so..

[the_phoenix612]

Whats funny is they didnt show up there till right before over time... And they wouldnt shut up...
nvm

[DragonFan0316]

I'd like to meet your wife. Tell her to come join the board. We need a few more of us girls on here.;)

Good idea. I think I'll do that. Glad to see the ladies get involved here as well as at the game.:)

[Drgnlady]

Good idea. I think I'll do that. Glad to see the ladies get involved here as well as at the game.:)

Just a handful of us but always glad to dispel the idea that the only reason women go to the game is to talk about decorating! But I have to admit, my biggest problem is getting most of my female friends to let me really watch the game.:mad:

[DragonFan0316]

Just a handful of us but always glad to dispel the idea that the only reason women go to the game is to talk about decorating! But I have to admit, my biggest problem is getting most of my female friends to let me really watch the game.:mad:

You are way more polite than I. I put the binos up and ignore them. Sorry but there is an order to things. We talk between plays and time outs. :D

[drgnbkr]

Just a handful of us but always glad to dispel the idea that the only reason women go to the game is to talk about decorating! But I have to admit, my biggest problem is getting most of my female friends to let me really watch the game.:mad:

You know I didn't paint you and your cowbell with the same brush as the re-modelers! :p You are a true fan..on the board and at the games!

[15Adragon]

Looks like most folks are seeing about 70-80 points in this one. I still can't decide. Anyone think it will be a defensive battle. I saw a few posts that FM has a salty D with lots of speed. I want to go high scoring but I'm not sure yet.

[drgnbkr]

Looks like most folks are seeing about 70-80 points in this one. I still can't decide. Anyone think it will be a defensive battle. I saw a few posts that FM has a salty D with lots of speed. I want to go high scoring but I'm not sure yet.

I'm thinking the Defense finds it's lost mojo and Carroll wins 35-7

[15Adragon]

I'm thinking the Defense finds it's lost mojo and Carroll wins 35-7
You are encouraging me in that direction... that D looked pretty solid for the first 3 weeks and I think we are do for a pleasant suprise. :)

[JagFan]

Looks like most folks are seeing about 70-80 points in this one. I still can't decide. Anyone think it will be a defensive battle. I saw a few posts that FM has a salty D with lots of speed. I want to go high scoring but I'm not sure yet.

Hard to say. I thought the Hebron game would be a high scoring affair and both defenses held pretty well.

[Drgnlady]

You know I didn't paint you and your cowbell with the same brush as the re-modelers! :p You are a true fan..on the board and at the games!

Oh, Backer - I know you have my back!!

[green day]

...its as quiet as....

:) it's kinda catchy, isn't it?

:mad: It ticks me off actually. Players have told me how much an adrenaline rush they get from our roadies when we make noise. Why can't we have that same effect at our place?

What to do: Go out of your way to teach your neighbors. If they don't get it, use the "everybody get up" motion and see how they respond. If everyone on this board gets two people to get off their tush, we might get somewhere. Eventually it could become as chic as showing off your wares...

[15Adragon]

Here is how it will go down.

After a couple of long days of staring at game film looking for something, but not quite sure what, Coach Wasson got an idea. He was looking for a new wrinkle for his runnning QB and with this being homecoming he thought he would watch some old film. The next thing he knew he was calling the equipment mgr in to change Avers facemask to one of those old Earl Campbell ones with the veritcal bar down the middle. He called his O-coaches and and told them his plan.

Coach decided to open the game with his new running QB in the wishbone. He pictured DP as a hybrid (Mantooth/Brown) and Rake as Dane Johnson (since he played DB too). Walker was moved to the other tailback opposite Rake (seems there was another TB named Walker on that first SLC Championship team). With the plan in place a few days to practice they were ready.

FM had no idea what to do with all of their extra DB's. They were no match for the no-huddle 'bone. SLC scored on their first three posessions and the rest is history.

SLC 38
FM 17

[drgnbkr]

Here is how it will go down.

After a couple of long days of staring at game film looking for something, but not quite sure what, Coach Wasson got an idea. He was looking for a new wrinkle for his runnning QB and with this being homecoming he thought he would watch some old film. The next thing he knew he was calling the equipment mgr in to change Avers facemask to one of those old Earl Campbell ones with the veritcal bar down the middle. He called his O-coaches and and told them his plan.

Coach decided to open the game with his new running QB in the wishbone. He pictured DP as a hybrid (Mantooth/Brown) and Rake as Dane Johnson (since he played DB too). Walker was moved to the other tailback opposite Rake (seems there was another TB named Walker on that first SLC Championship team). With the plan in place a few days to practice they were ready.

FM had no idea what to do with all of their extra DB's. They were no match for the no-huddle 'bone. SLC scored on their first three posessions and the rest is history.

SLC 38
FM 17

Sounds good to me!

[DrEdward]

There has been a decided change in the Dragons fans over the years. Much more reserved now than they once were, at least during the regular season. Also, the faithful do not travel as well en mass as they once did. I suspect the demographics have a good deal to do with this. But I have heard way too often that "it is just too far to go" argument and that was to SMU on a Saturday. Good grief. :( Same problem with heading over to SFA a couple of years ago. When a team is like the '92 or '05 Dragon bunch, fans aren't really all that important; they could just steamroller folks. When the team is not as solid as those or banged up like the current one, the crowd can help. Carroll has no tradition of organized cheers and the ones by the cheerleaders don't really help much, as those seem more to highlight them than actually to whip up the crowd. While I do not really want to go to aggie like lengths, it would decidedly be an imporvement in the crowd atmosphere. That has to start in the school or with organized groups in the stnads.

[colormecrazy]

My seat has a back and we stand, much to the chagrin of the lady in front of me who prefers to talk about redecorating her house I got her to leave before half time the last game so maybe she will not show, but no bother the rest of the folks sitting around me are solid fans

HOOO-RAW for the FANS!:notworthy
At least you guys have many winning sasons in the past. The spectators seem to learn as you go over the years. At Keller it's like teaching people who never saw a football game how to be a 12th man! Soccer moms giving me dirty looks for sceaming a nice loud 'DDD..FENCE' on a big third downs! So, I've started letting the folks in front of me know before the game, "I'm loud. If that's a problem you'll need to move. It's a FOOTBALL GAME!" WAKE-UP! Keller we don't get the chance to be this excited every year! At the Thursday night game last week against Northwest, I had a loud group with me. We finally started getting some folks to figure out what's going on.

We need the Indian's season to be as long as possible for more fan training!:D

[drgnbkr]

There has been a decided change in the Dragons fans over the years. Much more reserved now than they once were, at least during the regular season. Also, the faithful do not travel as well en mass as they once did. I suspect the demographics have a good deal to do with this. But I have heard way too often that "it is just too far to go" argument and that was to SMU on a Saturday. Good grief. :( Same problem with heading over to SFA a couple of years ago. When a team is like the '92 or '05 Dragon bunch, fans aren't really all that important; they could just steamroller folks. When the team is not as solid as those or banged up like the current one, the crowd can help. Carroll has no tradition of organized cheers and the ones by the cheerleaders don't really help much, as those seem more to highlight them than actually to whip up the crowd. While I do not really want to go to aggie like lengths, it would decidedly be an imporvement in the crowd atmosphere. That has to start in the school or with organized groups in the stnads.

I remember Junior doing a pretty good job in the cheer department!:D

[dragons08]

There has been a decided change in the Dragons fans over the years. Much more reserved now than they once were, at least during the regular season. Also, the faithful do not travel as well en mass as they once did. I suspect the demographics have a good deal to do with this. But I have heard way too often that "it is just too far to go" argument and that was to SMU on a Saturday. Good grief. :( Same problem with heading over to SFA a couple of years ago. When a team is like the '92 or '05 Dragon bunch, fans aren't really all that important; they could just steamroller folks. When the team is not as solid as those or banged up like the current one, the crowd can help. Carroll has no tradition of organized cheers and the ones by the cheerleaders don't really help much, as those seem more to highlight them than actually to whip up the crowd. While I do not really want to go to aggie like lengths, it would decidedly be an imporvement in the crowd atmosphere. That has to start in the school or with organized groups in the stnads.

Throughout my 4 years at Carroll yankee and I started "lets go dragons" chants, in key parts of the game. We got the band to do it, belles, cheerleaders, crew, and then the fans around us.

When cheerleaders start it, nobody listens....

Obviously yankee and i were the heart and soul of carroll ;)

[JagFan]

As always I hope for an injury free game on both sides.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

There has been a decided change in the Dragons fans over the years. Much more reserved now than they once were, at least during the regular season. Also, the faithful do not travel as well en mass as they once did. I suspect the demographics have a good deal to do with this. But I have heard way too often that "it is just too far to go" argument and that was to SMU on a Saturday. Good grief. :( Same problem with heading over to SFA a couple of years ago. When a team is like the '92 or '05 Dragon bunch, fans aren't really all that important; they could just steamroller folks. When the team is not as solid as those or banged up like the current one, the crowd can help. Carroll has no tradition of organized cheers and the ones by the cheerleaders don't really help much, as those seem more to highlight them than actually to whip up the crowd. While I do not really want to go to aggie like lengths, it would decidedly be an imporvement in the crowd atmosphere. That has to start in the school or with organized groups in the stnads.

This is really unfortunate. So many would love to live in a place with that much tradition & commitment from the kids. Sounds like some there don't know what they have.

[DrEdward]

I remember Junior doing a pretty good job in the cheer department!:D

Yep and if the cheerleaders really want to get the fans involved, they need do start more along the lines of what Junior used to do in the playoffs. Plus they don't even need the umbrella hat. However, for the most part, Carroll seems to be sufficiently loud during the playoffs when lots more folks show up.

[SLC]

There has been a decided change in the Dragons fans over the years. Much more reserved now than they once were, at least during the regular season. Also, the faithful do not travel as well en mass as they once did. I suspect the demographics have a good deal to do with this. But I have heard way too often that "it is just too far to go" argument and that was to SMU on a Saturday. Good grief. :( Same problem with heading over to SFA a couple of years ago. When a team is like the '92 or '05 Dragon bunch, fans aren't really all that important; they could just steamroller folks. When the team is not as solid as those or banged up like the current one, the crowd can help. Carroll has no tradition of organized cheers and the ones by the cheerleaders don't really help much, as those seem more to highlight them than actually to whip up the crowd. While I do not really want to go to aggie like lengths, it would decidedly be an imporvement in the crowd atmosphere. That has to start in the school or with organized groups in the stnads.

I do like the "First Down" chant though... Seems to always get participation..

[SLC]

As always I hope for an injury free game on both sides.


As do we, kind sir....:)

[dragonpants]

Ok it is Thursday and after many hours plugging numbers into my complex algorithm I am ready to make my prediction for tomorrow night's game.

There will be lot's of fun at the pregame tailgate with all the excessive Dragon fans. There may be an adult beverage consumed by one of the said fans.

I will make the lady in front of me mad again. My throat will be sore so I will need to "medicate" it after the game and Panther has volunteered to participate in this treatment plan.

[FMHSJaguar]

I hope Ashley is okay or the team shouldn't risk him. Is he a wide-out? Sorry I don't remember where he plays.

They will risk him. And yes, He is the team's leading WR and kick/punt returner.

[farmerfan]

They will risk him. And yes, He is the team's leading WR and kick/punt returner.

One has to ask, why would they risk him?