Where are all the Permian Threads?

[TheBigPeach]

Aren't they undefeated still?

[MOJO94]

Aren't they undefeated still?Yes, we are going under the radar.

[Empire strikes back]

Permian is 7-0 overall and 6-0 in district. In my own opinion, Permian needs to wake up and don't take any team lightly. (Ex: Permian-Trinity in the playoffs) Their preformance last night was unacceptable. Last night I was :eek: and :Censor:.


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[mojotrain]

We are in a new district and to now after 7 games, it's been chicken one quarter and feathers the next. After last night we can see that we can be outquicked by a smaller D- line. On the other hand Our big against someone elses big, we will compete very well. Overall Compared to last year. Until last night, marked improvment had been noted each game.

I'm being a little caustic in comments but they are ahead of what they did last year and we lead the district in O and D. Whatever thats worth.

I took a giant crow meal lunch hit last November. I haven't recovered yet.

[PermianFan4Life]

Mojo for the second week in a row continues to have problems on D, We just couldn't seem to find the groove. Now LHS did play well but we almost gave them the game, I am far more worried about us beating ourselves than any opponent but if we can't put pressure on the QB we will continue to give up alot of points. The refs couldn't seem to make a good call either, They marked off 20 yards on a face mask then almost didn't reset the clock when LHS called a time out and the clock ran 20 sec off before it was stopped. Numerous holding calls missed as well as #18 being horse collared right in front of a ref(he was injured on that play), I am getting sick of the refs trying to play the equalizers.

[PermianFan]

Mojo for the second week in a row continues to have problems on D, We just couldn't seem to find the groove. Now LHS did play well but we almost gave them the game, I am far more worried about us beating ourselves than any opponent but if we can't put pressure on the QB we will continue to give up alot of points. The refs couldn't seem to make a good call either, They marked off 20 yards on a face mask then almost didn't reset the clock when LHS called a time out and the clock ran 20 sec off before it was stopped. Numerous holding calls missed as well as #18 being horse collared right in front of a ref(he was injured on that play), I am getting sick of the refs trying to play the equalizers.

Before we all throw ourselves off the nearest bridge in total despair, let's remember that our defense gave up only one touchdown. I know that's a terrible thing, and I am as ashamed of them as any of you, but they are just kids and we must learn to live with this kind of poor play from our Panthers. After all, this isn't the Good Old Days when we allowed only two to three touchdowns in a whole season.;)

[BlackAttack]

Before we all throw ourselves off the nearest bridge in total despair, let's remember that our defense gave up only one touchdown. I know that's a terrible thing, and I am as ashamed of them as any of you, but they are just kids and we must learn to live with this kind of poor play from our Panthers. After all, this isn't the Good Old Days when we allowed only two to three touchdowns in a whole season.;)

I was wondering about that myself. When the offense isn't quite hitting on all cylinders and gives up 3 turnovers, 219 yards and one touchdown allowed in this day and age is a good performance in my opinion.

[PermianFan4Life]

I was wondering about that myself. When the offense isn't quite hitting on all cylinders and gives up 3 turnovers, 219 yards and one touchdown allowed in this day and age is a good performance in my opinion.


I know that LHS can play, They showed us last night that they won't give up. What concernes me is not the points shown on the score board but how well we play and are able to adjust to our opponents, We made mistakes last night and passed up on opportunities(seems like we need to learn what a tip drill is). We can't afford to get lax, We use terms like cellar dwellers to describe our fellow district 2 teams with loosing season records. Beware because these are the teams that will send you home with your tail tucked firmly between your legs, They have nothing to loose and will play from here on out at 110%. There are no gimmes at this point and forming an attitude of indifference will send you packing in post district play, Don't celebrate until the game is in the books.

[saMavsFan]

Permian is 7-0 overall and 6-0 in district. In my own opinion, Permian needs to wake up and don't take any team lightly. (Ex: Permian-Trinity in the playoffs) Their preformance last night was unacceptable. Last night I was :eek: and :Censor:.


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I saw you guys talking about the game last night in the updates thread. Seemed like the score was pretty good, a nice spread. Was the game closer than the score?

[mojoman21]

i agree,if they play like last night next week they will get beat bad.

[BackNBlack97]

I saw you guys talking about the game last night in the updates thread. Seemed like the score was pretty good, a nice spread. Was the game closer than the score?

Permian should have been much further ahead... Lubbock High was within 1 score in the third quarter, and are an 0-7 team... Permian threw 3 interceptions and didn't get much offensive continuity until the drive that ran out a bunch of clock in the 4th quarter...

[mojoman21]

it was closer than the score. they made some bad plays that could have cost us the game. i've never seen a team be so dominent play a game like this. they better have learned a lesson from this or they won't go as far as there capable of going.

[BlackAttack]

it was closer than the score. they made some bad plays that could have cost us the game. i've never seen a team be so dominent play a game like this. they better have learned a lesson from this or they won't go as far as there capable of going.

1985, Permian 7 Abilene 7. That might have been the only game Abilene didn't lose that year.

last night should be a wake up call.

[BlackAttack]

I know that LHS can play, They showed us last night that they won't give up. What concernes me is not the points shown on the score board but how well we play and are able to adjust to our opponents, We made mistakes last night and passed up on opportunities(seems like we need to learn what a tip drill is). We can't afford to get lax, We use terms like cellar dwellers to describe our fellow district 2 teams with loosing season records. Beware because these are the teams that will send you home with your tail tucked firmly between your legs, They have nothing to loose and will play from here on out at 110%. There are no gimmes at this point and forming an attitude of indifference will send you packing in post district play, Don't celebrate until the game is in the books.


I agree with a lot of that. It just didn't seem like defense was the problem.

[Shoot2thrill]

1985, Permian 7 Abilene 7. That might have been the only game Abilene didn't lose that year.

last night should be a wake up call.

Actually we were 3-0 when we played you in the opening game of district play back in 1985. One of the victories was over Longview.:eek: I do think we finished only 5-5 for the season. :cool:

[PermianFan4Life]

I agree with a lot of that. It just didn't seem like defense was the problem.

2 of the turnovers were because Trevor's arm got slapped due to our right OT allowing penetration into the back field.

[BlackAttack]

Actually we were 3-0 when we played you in the opening game of district play back in 1985. One of the victories was over Longview.:eek: I do think we finished only 5-5 for the season. :cool:
Ah-ha. A little research reveals you were 2-4-1 in district. I just remember being heavy favorites in that game.

[BlackAttack]

2 of the turnovers were because Trevor's arm got slapped due to our right OT allowing penetration into the back field.

That is true. 3 turnovers and only give up 1 touchdown, I'll take that kind of defense any night.

[cyfallsbooster2]

They are good and have self confidence so they don't need to have 10 threads about themselves unlike Katy?!!:eek:

[PermianFan4Life]

They are good and have self confidence so they don't need to have 10 threads about themselves unlike Katy?!!:eek:


LOL:notworthy

[cyfallsbooster2]

LOL:notworthy

;)

[PermianFan]

Actually there were a lot of things going on in that game, including a Lubbock team that was playing above it's normal level, players having to protect their knees, one of the mainstays of our defense being in street clothes, and so forth and so on. Don't think the team or the coaches are unaware of all of these things. They know we're going to get everyone's best game, they know the refs are probably going to make a couple of totally boneheaded calls that benefit the opponent, they know there will be some cheap shots taken in an effort to hobble them. It doesn't matter. They still pulled together on an off night and won the game handily. So don't be critical of them. Instead, be proud of them that they did what was necessary even when nothing seemed to be going right. This is not an indication that they are uncommitted or undisciplined or poorly coached in some aspect of the game. They don't lack some essential quality that "championship teams" have. How many great NFL teams have there been that were undefeated? How many great Permian teams?
The point is, last night Permian did what GOOD TEAMS do. They won, despite everything. There have been years in recent memory when they wouldn't have.
I have great faith in this team. The glass is not half empty - and it's way more than half full! All of them are giving it their best effort. The coaches will address whatever problems there are, the boys will work hard to correct them, and we will all show up next week to cheer them on.

[PermianFan4Life]

Actually there were a lot of things going on in that game, including a Lubbock team that was playing above it's normal level, players having to protect their knees, one of the mainstays of our defense being in street clothes, and so forth and so on. Don't think the team or the coaches are unaware of all of these things. They know we're going to get everyone's best game, they know the refs are probably going to make a couple of totally boneheaded calls that benefit the opponent, they know there will be some cheap shots taken in an effort to hobble them. It doesn't matter. They still pulled together on an off night and won the game handily. So don't be critical of them. Instead, be proud of them that they did what was necessary even when nothing seemed to be going right. This is not an indication that they are uncommitted or undisciplined or poorly coached in some aspect of the game. They don't lack some essential quality that "championship teams" have. How many great NFL teams have there been that were undefeated? How many great Permian teams?
The point is, last night Permian did what GOOD TEAMS do. They won, despite everything. There have been years in recent memory when they wouldn't have.
I have great faith in this team. The glass is not half empty - and it's way more than half full! All of them are giving it their best effort. The coaches will address whatever problems there are, the boys will work hard to correct them, and we will all show up next week to cheer them on.


Well said!

[OJOM]

Actually there were a lot of things going on in that game, including a Lubbock team that was playing above it's normal level, players having to protect their knees, one of the mainstays of our defense being in street clothes, and so forth and so on. Don't think the team or the coaches are unaware of all of these things. They know we're going to get everyone's best game, they know the refs are probably going to make a couple of totally boneheaded calls that benefit the opponent, they know there will be some cheap shots taken in an effort to hobble them. It doesn't matter. They still pulled together on an off night and won the game handily. So don't be critical of them. Instead, be proud of them that they did what was necessary even when nothing seemed to be going right. This is not an indication that they are uncommitted or undisciplined or poorly coached in some aspect of the game. They don't lack some essential quality that "championship teams" have. How many great NFL teams have there been that were undefeated? How many great Permian teams?
The point is, last night Permian did what GOOD TEAMS do. They won, despite everything. There have been years in recent memory when they wouldn't have.
I have great faith in this team. The glass is not half empty - and it's way more than half full! All of them are giving it their best effort. The coaches will address whatever problems there are, the boys will work hard to correct them, and we will all show up next week to cheer them on.

They should also have learned from the play of the other team last night that even in a game everyone thinks you should loose, a big heart, teamwork and determination will go a long way. It'll be good to remember that when the Trogens come calling in the playoffs.

[mojotrain]

I saw you guys talking about the game last night in the updates thread. Seemed like the score was pretty good, a nice spread. Was the game closer than the score?

I don't think it was closer than the score. That was a comment I said about the Permian Midland Lee game last week. It was more like watching a man on the wrong train.

[sa panther]

To answer the question posed in the thread starter, I won't try to speak for every Permian fan, but I bet there a lot that think the same way.

Even though we are in the midst of of our third successful season in a row, we really have not done anything special yet. Fans like me that grew up through the 70's 80's and 90's don't measure success by district championships. Don't get me wrong. I could not be happier with what coach Allman has done with our beloved program. We did not get crappy overnight and we will not become dominate (statewide) again overnight either, but I like where we are heading.

I like the fact that Permian is somewhat under the radar. The only thing that really matters is what happens on the field.

Mojo!

[PermianFan4Life]

To answer the question posed in the thread starter, I won't try to speak for every Permian fan, but I bet there a lot that think the same way.

Even though we are in the midst of of our third successful season in a row, we really have not done anything special yet. Fans like me that grew up through the 70's 80's and 90's don't measure success by district championships. Don't get me wrong. I could not be happier with what coach Allman has done with our beloved program. We did not get crappy overnight and we will not become dominate (statewide) again overnight either, but I like where we are heading.

I like the fact that Permian is somewhat under the radar. The only thing that really matters is what happens on the field.

Mojo!

+1

[Permian_Fan]

+1

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Yep, I still try to compare to the old days too. I remember playing football at Nimitz Junior High. They had an extremely successfull football program (42+ game win streak)...and were a feeder school to Permian. Anyway, there was a saying posting in the locker room:

"If your team scores you may win...If the other team NEVER scores you will NEVER lose. DEFENSE WINS GAMES"

Back in those days, Permian lived by the defense...but usually had a good offense to back them up.

Times have changed! Offenses are very potent and defenses seem to have a "bend but don't break" philosophy...giving up quite a few points. So to win, you must truly "outscore" the opponent.

After following Permian football for 30+ years, it is an adjustment not to completely dominate teams like the old days. When a team can dominate on defense they are incredibly hard to beat, such as reigning state champs Euless Trinity last year. However, this year, ET seem to be less dominant on defense. So, I think this ET team in much more "beatable" than last years team. Only time will tell.

Having said that, I can say I am very happy with Permian's performance the last few years. I like what I have been seeing with the program!! No real complaints at all :)

[AE 8008]

it seems to me like a few people are still caught up about trinity. forget last year, and make it about this year. op cant control what trinity does, op can only control what op does, so i say forget them and concern yourselves with op only, then give it to em when ya play em

[Permian_Fan]

it seems to me like a few people are still caught up about trinity. forget last year, and make it about this year. op cant control what trinity does, op can only control what op does, so i say forget them and concern yourselves with op only, then give it to em when ya play em

If you are referring to my post. You are reading something into it that I never intetended. I was making no reference to MOJO vs ET. Only pointing out a recent example of a team with a very strong defense...which led to their state title. So, I was simply giving credit to that team which will surely be remembered for many years for its defensive dominance.

When I stated ET looked "beatable" and "only time will tell"...I meant by ANY team they face...not a potential rematch with MOJO.

To me it seems there may a few people who want to bury a bad memory...and get irratated when they are reminded :)

I am a Permian alumni and MOJO fan through and through...but I also give credit where credit is due. I have no sore spot about getting beat by ET, they were a much better team than Permian during the second go round.

As you say, this year is a new year. I certainly look at it as a "fresh set of downs". Anything can happen. It is far too early to make any speculation about a ET vs. OP matchup.

[AE 8008]

If you are referring to my post. You are reading something into it that I never intetended. I was making no reference to MOJO vs ET. Only pointing out a recent example of a team with a very strong defense...which led to their state title. So, I was simply giving credit to that team which will surely be remembered for many years for its defensive dominance.

When I stated ET looked "beatable" and "only time will tell"...I meant by ANY team they face...not a potential rematch with MOJO.

To me it seems there may a few people who want to bury a bad memory...and get irratated when they are reminded :)

I am a Permian alumni and MOJO fan through and through...but I also give credit where credit is due. I have no sore spot about getting beat by ET, they were a much better team than Permian during the second go round.

As you say, this year is a new year. I certainly look at it as a "fresh set of downs". Anything can happen. It is far too early to make any speculation about a ET vs. OP matchup.




haha alright, well i wasnt speaking to you in particular, or anyone for that matter, just anyone in permiania still potentially hung up on last year. it happens. i know it happened to abilene after playing slc in 05. probably good that we didnt have to play them in 06, gave us time to recoup for winning in 07. granted that was a much different situation....but it happens

[AHSeagles]

haha alright, well i wasnt speaking to you in particular, or anyone for that matter, just anyone in permiania still potentially hung up on last year. it happens. i know it happened to abilene after playing slc in 05. probably good that we didnt have to play them in 06, gave us time to recoup for winning in 07. granted that was a much different situation....but it happens

Enter the 900 people who will say Abilene shouldn't have won this game if (insert excuse here).:rolleyes:

[AE 8008]

Enter the 900 people who will say Abilene shouldn't have won this game if (insert excuse here).:rolleyes:

:notworthy:rolleyes:

[mojotrain]

:notworthy:rolleyes:

Now 8008, you know I can't post without reference to all the yesterdays. I know a lot more about yesterdays than I do about tomorrow.:)

[PermianFan4Life]

Now 8008, you know I can't post without reference to all the yesterdays. I know a lot more about yesterdays than I do about tomorrow.:)

Very wise words.

[AE 8008]

Now 8008, you know I can't post without reference to all the yesterdays. I know a lot more about yesterdays than I do about tomorrow.:)

;)

im about to catch you on post count:D

[mojotrain]

;)

im about to catch you on post count:D

Yeah and you have a lot of years left.