Over-rated!!!!

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Which team is the most overrated?

[dada]

Which teams is the most overrated?
This year....or in the playoffs?

Right now....I would have to say Longview.......

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

OOps! I goofed.

Playoffs only folks! sorry about that. :D

[BigWhiteJake]

i chose plano, i think SGP will make quick work of them

[dada]

OOps! I goofed.

Playoffs only folks! sorry about that. :D
I didnt even look at the choices....Amarillo

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

i chose plano, i think SGP will make quick work of them
one of my friends graduated from there. (SGP)

[KatyTigerDad0407]

We all know that LV and SC were overated. What do you think about Lufkin, Sa Madison, Abilene?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

We all know that LV and SC were overated. What do you think about Lufkin, Sa Madison, Abilene?
Hmmm...........??? :confused:

[implacable44]

Hmmm...........??? :confused:

Katy ? Judson ?

[dragonfootballfan]

Trinity

[implacable44]

Trinity

how can trinity be overrated? - easy for you to say since you don't have to play them now.

I heard someone in Grapevine shouting that about the Dragons too -- OVER-RATED .....

[bleedgreen]

This year....or in the playoffs?

Right now....I would have to say Longview.......
well, "right now" Longview isn't in the playoffs, right?? therefore, we wouldn't be a choice for the "overrated" bracket, would we dada?? funny how you and KTTigerDad say that crap NOW---didn't hear you saying anything about us being overrated before last saturday....jumping on the bandwagon are we??? if and when your teams "bow-out", i will return the favor on being "overrated".......

[Sakatha]

how can trinity be overrated? - easy for you to say since you don't have to play them now.

I heard someone in Grapevine shouting that about the Dragons too -- OVER-RATED .....

I was looking forward to watching the Fossil Ridge / ET matchup. I came away convinced that SLC would win by 30.

It was a *real* let down.

~DnM

[bleedgreen]

We all know that LV and SC were overated. What do you think about Lufkin, Sa Madison, Abilene?
really funny that you decided to group yourself in with everyone--"we ALL know"--etc......well, who is this "all"?? has this been a secret kept by you the whole season, KTTigerDad??? first time that i have heard of this "all" crap, but yet i'm on this board every single day....should have revealed your secret a little sooner(preferably before last saturday) so that i could know that we were "overrated"....i guess i just would have sat at the house all season long rather than wasting my time following and watching an "overrated" team............doesn't take a rocket scientist or a fortune teller to say that a team is overrated, especially after they have lost....bet that took alot of time to make that assessment, huh???????

[Favpack]

Bleed's got a good point. If Katy gets beat this week - then they were over-rated? SClemens was not over-rated - they lost 80% of their offense to a broken leg - how do you rate that? Bottom line is any team can be beat on any given week - and you have to have some way to rank a Top 10.

Getting back to the list - I don't think any of those teams can be classified as over-rated. I guess if a top 10 team gets beat 38-0 this week then maybe they were over-rated -- but SG beating LV by one point? That's just an upset in my book.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Bleed.. I said "know", I didn't say "knew". I thought for sure you would have made it out of the first round. I was lookig forward to you playing Lufkin. If you go back far enough there is a thread sayin "Longview will win state". Look, it is just my opinion, nothing more.

[BigFoot]

Trinity
That is no surprise from a SLC fan

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Bleed's got a good point. If Katy gets beat this week - then they were over-rated?


Yes, If Katy gets beat by Cy Creek this week then Katy IS WAY overated.

[bleedgreen]

Bleed.. I said "know", I didn't say "knew". I thought for sure you would have made it out of the first round. I was lookig forward to you playing Lufkin. If you go back far enough there is a thread sayin "Longview will win state". Look, it is just my opinion, nothing more.
don't get me wrong, KTTigerdad--i'm not in the least bit angry or upset at your opinions...you're entitled to that...always have respected your views on this board......now, back to the subject at hand....only problem that i had with your post was that you picked us as "overrated" AFTER we had lost...brother, anyone can make that assumption...as far as Lufkin is concerned, hell yes, i agree with you...i too was waiting to play them just one more time and see if we could end that ridiculous streak that has been hanging over this town for 4 years..but, it's not going to happen this season...as for the thread that you spoke of, i tried and pleaded with other Lobo fans to quit making posts of that nature...because of this VERY reason...they(not me) have egg on their faces and a bad taste of crow in their mouths---i never once bragged or boasted about us winning a state title...i was just happy to win district again....after our performances against Rockwall, NM, and SG---Lufkin would have ripped us a new one!! i guess i'm glad that nothing more was added to the "streak"...losing to them ONE more time would have had me in Rusk State Hospital for a lengthy stay--LOL.......have always liked and respected Katy, especially after losing to you guys in the state title game in '97.....good luck the rest of the way

[thestud]

What do you think about Lufkin, Sa Madison, Abilene?

how does abilene get thrown in this? all we've done is go 11-0, spanking the crap out of everyone we've played with the exception of brownwood and belton. and if that comes into account then slc must be overrated for not kicking the crap out of grapevine? we're not one dimensional, and the first team D averages giving up 8.45 pts a game.




*disclaimer - i am in no way saying slc is overrated, just a comparison.

[nate]

A few thoughts...

I've consistently stated my opinion that Longview was overrated from the beginning of the year. This does not mean that they weren't a Top 25 team - I just thought Top 5 was too high. And just because they lost one game does not mean that they weren't a real good team this year.

Plano is a good team. DeSoto had a great defense and Plano consistently moved the ball on that team. Because the QB made several mistakes (not forced), DeSoto was able to keep it close. They have not been rated highly all year, so I have a hard time understanding how they're "overrated."

Good point about Clemens minus Henry. He was their stud and as much as their fan base tried to argue that the team was more than one player, the offense certainly proved to be lacking without him.

Trinity is overrated if you consider their defense. SLC would have a hard time stopping the Trinity running game, but Trinity would stand no chance at stopping the SLC passing game. Trinity also has a tendency to commit stupid penalties and put the ball on the ground. Really good teams don't do these things.

[Sakatha]

Trinity would get a couple td's early against SLC, but after halftime adjustments, I would be shocked to see them rush for over 50 total in the 2nd half.

~DnM

p.s. Too bad we'll never see it :(

[nate]

Trinity would get a couple td's early against SLC, but after halftime adjustments, I would be shocked to see them rush for over 50 total in the 2nd half.

Trinity could move the ball for 4 quarters on the ground against SLC if they wanted to. The problem is that mistakes and an inability to stop SLC would probably put them 14-21 points down going into the 4th and no team continues to run the ball with time running down and a large point deficit.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

how does abilene get thrown in this? all we've done is go 11-0, spanking the crap out of everyone we've played with the exception of brownwood and belton. and if that comes into account then slc must be overrated for not kicking the crap out of grapevine? we're not one dimensional, and the first team D averages giving up 8.45 pts a game.




*disclaimer - i am in no way saying slc is overrated, just a comparison.

I am just asking questions. I am looking at the possible matchups. This is not an opinion, it is a question that ask for insight into possible matchups.

[Sakatha]

Trinity could move the ball for 4 quarters on the ground against SLC if they wanted to. The problem is that mistakes and an inability to stop SLC would probably put them 14-21 points down going into the 4th and no team continues to run the ball with time running down and a large point deficit.

Okay....

:)

~DnM

[Purple Haze]

one of my friends graduated from there. (SGP)

You have a friend? :D

[dada]

well, "right now" Longview isn't in the playoffs, right?? therefore, we wouldn't be a choice for the "overrated" bracket, would we dada?? funny how you and KTTigerDad say that crap NOW---didn't hear you saying anything about us being overrated before last saturday....jumping on the bandwagon are we??? if and when your teams "bow-out", i will return the favor on being "overrated".......
It was peer pressure.....that's why I said Longview...lol. My team is any Region 3 team that makes it.

[BigArab]

Amen bleed. I still think they could beat any team in the state. Favpack is right...it was an upset. SG did what they had to do.

[PaulinPlano]

Why does this not surprise me. :D

Plano has a bad game and all of a sudden they are over-rated?

Did anyone say Southlake is over-rated when they almost lost to Grapevine? ;)

[dragonfootballfan]

That is no surprise from a SLC fan
It is my opinion that Trinity is the most overrated team in the state that is still playing. They benefitted from a weak district where the only good team they played they lost. They will benefit from a weak playoff schedule and will be put in their place by a great team from Region 3

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Did anyone say Southlake is over-rated when they almost lost to Grapevine? ;)

To answer your question...yes! But those kinds of comments always come out, when someone is played tough, and nearly loses! Just look at USC - I hate them with a passion - but I and many many others can't call them overrated just because they've played about 10 close games in the 31 or 32 they've won....straight in a row!!!

But personally, I think Plano is a very solid squad....they sure handled Allen and Rowlett! (They played Rowlett earlier in the season....I think Rowlett is much better now, and would give them one hell of a game.)

Both, Rowlett and Allen are in the second round of the playoffs!!!!

[dragonfootballfan]

Why does this not surprise me. :D

Plano has a bad game and all of a sudden they are over-rated?

Did anyone say Southlake is over-rated when they almost lost to Grapevine? ;)
people did say that Carroll was overrated, but they showed otherwise in their following games and the talk went away. As it is now Plano has played two straight where they did not look like they should. Lets see if Plano can rebound as well as Carroll did

[JagDad07]

It is my opinion that Trinity is the most overrated team in the state that is still playing. They benefitted from a weak district where the only good team they played they lost. They will benefit from a weak playoff schedule and will be put in their place by a great team from Region 3

Well, I would agree that Trinity may very well be overrated, but I wouldn't agree they have an easy path through Region I. I think Summit matches up real well with them this year. They can't double up on the tailback like last year - too many offensive weapons to deal with.

[PaulinPlano]

To answer your question...yes! But those kinds of comments always come out, when someone is played tough, and nearly loses! Just look at USC - I hate them with a passion - but I and many many others can't call them overrated just because they've played about 10 close games in the 31 or 32 they've won....straight in a row!!!



That Notre Dame game still bugs me! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[PaulinPlano]

It is my opinion that Trinity is the most overrated team in the state that is still playing. They benefitted from a weak district where the only good team they played they lost. They will benefit from a weak playoff schedule and will be put in their place by a great team from Region 3


Well, I would agree that Trinity may very well be overrated, but I wouldn't agree they have an easy path through Region I. I think Summit matches up real well with them this year. They can't double up on the tailback like last year - too many offensive weapons to deal with.

Well... I guess Plano East does not deserve any respect from you guys... Discussion on this thread is like ET has a bye this week. They (East) will have to earn it this week. But if they can move the chains, ET may not make it out of the second round.

I have not seen ET play, but I would think they would be favored.

[dragons08]

how can trinity be overrated? - easy for you to say since you don't have to play them now.

I heard someone in Grapevine shouting that about the Dragons too -- OVER-RATED .....
okay fine were overrated :rolleyes: just get your team to think were not htat good, im cool with that..

[JagDad07]

Well... I guess Plano East does not deserve any respect from you guys... Discussion on this thread is like ET has a bye this week. They (East) will have to earn it this week. But if they can move the chains, ET may not make it out of the second round.

I have not seen ET play, but I would think they would be favored.

You make a good point - I did not mean to suggest ET had a bye week, but it came across that way. I haven't seen your team, so I can't judge y'alls chances. One tends to look at records, and y'alls has few more losses than the teams that are perceived to be the favorites. I wish y'all well.

[dragonfootballfan]

Well... I guess Plano East does not deserve any respect from you guys... Discussion on this thread is like ET has a bye this week. They (East) will have to earn it this week. But if they can move the chains, ET may not make it out of the second round.

I have not seen ET play, but I would think they would be favored.
It was a prediction. People make predictions all the time on the board and are not disrespecting the team they are playing against. I am sure that you make predictions all the time. Does that mean the person or team that you pick against is being disrespected?

[dragonfootballfan]

how can trinity be overrated? - easy for you to say since you don't have to play them now.

I heard someone in Grapevine shouting that about the Dragons too -- OVER-RATED .....
People in Grapevine can say what ever they would like, but the fact is that Carroll won the game. Trinity did not beat SGP and played MacArthur close. This was after all this talk about Trinity being the best team ever. Trinity lost and thus were overrated

[PaulinPlano]

The 5-5 regular season record does not look good. But I would suggest we are the best 5-5 team in the state. ;)

Tough pre-district schedule.

Garland & Southlake - could not get offense going and defense wore down.
Played terrible game against FM Marcus.
Plano could not get offense going and defense wore down.

We blinked against Allen and our offensive play calling was bad again. TOO Predictable.

I really feel that the play calling at East could be much better. I hope the coaches can figure things out.

[gritty52]

Most of you Jimmy the Greeks best worry about your own teams!!!!!!!!!!! Keep thinking Trinity is a push over :D Overrated or whatever. It figures someone out of Southlake would have an answer. We LOST ONE FRICKING GAME BY A TD. We might not as well show up the rest of the season. GUESS WHAT WE'RE SHOWING UP THOUGH! One of the GREEN teams are gone which GREEN team is next?????

[PaulinPlano]

It was a prediction. People make predictions all the time on the board and are not disrespecting the team they are playing against. I am sure that you make predictions all the time. Does that mean the person or team that you pick against is being disrespected?

My point was that East was not even being mentioned. Everyone was talking about who ET will face later in the playoffs as if this weekend game is already decided. That in my view disrepect. But I have no problem with that. It is an opinion.

[gritty52]

Paulin, I was at Trinity's practice today and the team has the utmost respect for you folks. Us loyal Trinity fans will tell you the same thing we have great respect for you guys. To get this far yaw had to do something right. Lots of luck on Sat. :D :D :D

[BigWhiteJake]

Euless Trinity is not over rated at all. I love the make up of that team. Trinity and South Grand Prarie both have solid teams, and please stop trying to call Southlake Carroll overrated. Killeen Harker Heights was a good team, and Lufkin was probably caught off gaurd so I would cut them some slack too. I would certainly give Plano the over rated nod, and add that I would but any amount of money on Midland over Amarillo.

[Planowildcats160]

would someone please give some explination behind these overrated teams instead of just stating that they are overrated. being a plano fan, i'm going to say that plano is underrated. they don't have the talent level of other teams, and that is what people look at first. but the leadership, intensity, and will to win can overcome a slight disadvantage in talent. and plano still has tons of very capable and extraordinary players. as well as very good depth. so how are they overrated?

[dragonfootballfan]

Most of you Jimmy the Greeks best worry about your own teams!!!!!!!!!!! Keep thinking Trinity is a push over :D Overrated or whatever. It figures someone out of Southlake would have an answer. We LOST ONE FRICKING GAME BY A TD. We might not as well show up the rest of the season. GUESS WHAT WE'RE SHOWING UP THOUGH! One of the GREEN teams are gone which GREEN team is next?????
Trinity lost a game that they were not supposed to. That makes them overrated

[thecoach]

wow, is this suppose to be a bunch of adults on this board? We got lots of immature whiners. At least realize polls mean nothing unless you play college ball. IN high school, the number 20 team could beat the number 1 team any day, on any field, if the right stuff happens. That's why football is beautiful. So I'm not too game for ratings...

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

i chose plano, i think SGP will make quick work of them

I would like to place a wager on that BWJ.

Why will they make quick work of a team that is 11-0. Don't you think team that was 0-10 2 years ago has character, heart and determination to stay in any game. This team took a pounding 2 years ago got back up. Worked their F!! ***** off and are living up the tradition of Plano past. They will have over 10,000 fans at Texas Stadium rooting for them and you expect them to lay down and die and have SGP make quick work of them.

You are so target. That's OK. Plano always plays better as an underdog. That's their tradition. You better be ready to have humble pie Saturday night around 11 PM.

[BAMF cowboy]

I would like to place a wager on that BWJ.

Why will they make quick work of a team that is 11-0. Don't you think team that was 0-10 2 years ago has character, heart and determination to stay in any game. This team took a pounding 2 years ago got back up. Worked their F!! ***** off and are living up the tradition of Plano past. They will have over 10,000 fans at Texas Stadium rooting for them and you expect them to lay down and die and have SGP make quick work of them.

You are so target. That's OK. Plano always plays better as an underdog. That's their tradition. You better be ready to have humble pie Saturday night around 11 PM.

i hope for your sake you're right

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

i hope for your sake you're right


You response sounds like my life is on the line if they lose. Yes for my sake I am right.

Please keep your game with allen to under 4 hours. I would like to get home by midnight :D

[nate]

IN high school, the number 20 team could beat the number 1 team any day, on any field, if the right stuff happens. That's why football is beautiful. So I'm not too game for ratings...

I do not agree. There are only 2-3 teams in the state of Texas that could potentially beat SLC, and they are ranked nowhere near 20th in the state.

[SLCDRGN]

I also believe SGP will hammer Plano. This will be the blowout of the day!!

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I also believe SGP will hammer Plano. This will be the blowout of the day!!

It's offical Plano can't so says Dragon college kid. You got to stop smoking the weed. With those uninformed and high as akite comments you are making.

Please explain how SGP will smoke Plano more than SL or Trinity kicking the snot out of PE and Allen. This should be quite entertaining.

[SLCDRGN]

Mark my words "SGP will hammer Plano." Their team speed will whip you!!

I don't see anything entertaining about this!!

[pshsfan]

Plano is one of the only 11-0 teams listed, correct? (no clue)

if you want to have a poll on the most overrated then you have to list everyone.

obviously the most overrated of the playoffs have already exited stage left.
sounds like someone personally dislikes plano.

i know the majority of the kids on this team, they don't think they are the best in the state, they don't think that they are better than some power houses, but they know that on any given day a good team can win a game against a better one. and that is what plano is all about.

these guys have been called small, slow, weak, and overrated by alot of people this season. They have gone 11-0. I don't care if SGP blows them out 45-7 (unlikely) they have done something amazing by just getting this far. And calling them overrated (a 10-0 team in a district that isnt easy is never overrated) is just going to fuel their fire. So please by all means, tell these kids they can't do it, that will just make their success that much sweeter.

I love plano senior high, and I love the upstanding guys that are on this team. I wouldn't have cared if they had repeated a crappy season, every single one of them plays 110% every play and that is why they have yet to feel a loss this year.

go wildcats, i shall never experience more positive emotion about sports than this season at plano senior high school.

-irv

[PurpleNation]

Amarillo by a long shot

[ALLIN]

I have not seen Plano, so I cant comment on them, i just know they have had some very close and questionable games. SGP, I have seen twice and was not that inpressed either time. I saw them against Coppell and DR. Their defense is tough, offense is ok. Their attitude as a team, I cannot stand (personally). I think this game will be a good one with SGP winning
21-17. Either of these teams will lose in the 4th to EITHER Abilene or SLC in mho

[stinger]

Here we go again... ET overrated. Would it matter if they won every game by one point? Playing someone close doesn't mean JACK. I recall SLC was stumbling a little during the season. They are doing well now. Trinity makes mistakes, but can anyone stop them from scoring?...NO What would your excuse be now if Trinity peaks this week and slaughters PESH? If you have been at the games, you would have seen that Trinity is using many more weapons and is preparing to show other teams another style to contend with. How can you say the ET played in a weak district if 6-5A eliminated 2 out of three 0f the teams they played last Saturday? Does that mean that SLC plays in a REALLY REALLY weak district? I THINK NOT!! Your analogies are weak and need a lot of work and backup.

[dragonfootballfan]

Here we go again... ET overrated. Would it matter if they won every game by one point? Playing someone close doesn't mean JACK. I recall SLC was stumbling a little during the season. They are doing well now. Trinity makes mistakes, but can anyone stop them from scoring?...NO What would your excuse be now if Trinity peaks this week and slaughters PESH? If you have been at the games, you would have seen that Trinity is using many more weapons and is preparing to show other teams another style to contend with. How can you say the ET played in a weak district if 6-5A eliminated 2 out of three 0f the teams they played last Saturday? Does that mean that SLC plays in a REALLY REALLY weak district? I THINK NOT!! Your analogies are weak and need a lot of work and backup.
Carroll played a weak district and there is no doubt about it. Do you think that MacArthur was strong after Carroll completely dominated them? They dispactched MacArthur like they did all of their district opponents. SGP was as good as Denton Ryan as evidenced by an overtime game. Fossill Ridge was overmatched in their game with Trinity. Trinity is overrated because they lost a game after being ranked among the state's top 5 teams. Wouldn't a team that got beat by a lesser opponent be overrated?

[stinger]

How can you so insecure as to say that any team is overrated when they lose? Is that the same if a team wins stae and has a loss on their record? Do you think that ALL good teams should NEVER lose, or they are overrated? Did you ever have an off day? Does that mean that you are overrated? Does that specific day justify you entirely? If you play golf, and have a great game, is that the way you should ALWAYS play, or is there the possibility that the REAL game that is you will return? We have seen ET play very dominantly through the season. Rest assured it was not a fluke. I hope you are around to see when it returns. If you are not, then keep your silence unless you can justify it.

[dragonfootballfan]

How can you so insecure as to say that any team is overrated when they lose? Is that the same if a team wins stae and has a loss on their record? Do you think that ALL good teams should NEVER lose, or they are overrated? Did you ever have an off day? Does that mean that you are overrated? Does that specific day justify you entirely? If you play golf, and have a great game, is that the way you should ALWAYS play, or is there the possibility that the REAL game that is you will return? We have seen ET play very dominantly through the season. Rest assured it was not a fluke. I hope you are around to see when it returns. If you are not, then keep your silence unless you can justify it.
Look Trinity was billed as this unstoppable powerhouse that could not be defeated. They were ranked high in the state and got into many national polls. They played a team that on paper they should have blown out and they lost. Ok maybe that one was a fluke, but the next week they played a team that they should blow out again and they only beat that team by seven points but they allowed 28 points and the game was competitive.

[stinger]

Are you another fan that plays football on paper or on the field? What would you say if Trinity beats PESH by 7 because that is all they needed and put in the backups? Would you still be on the same trip and call the backups overrated? Again....games are not won on paper....they are won on the field. Get off the "shoulda...coulda...woulda" train and see that teams are playing well right now and let the brackets be determined on the field, not on paper.
Paper had a tendency to tear at it's weakest point....so do teams....on the field.

[nate]

I've seen Trinity with my own eyes. They are not a Top 5 team. Therefore, they were overrated before losing to SGP.

[dragonfootballfan]

Are you another fan that plays football on paper or on the field? What would you say if Trinity beats PESH by 7 because that is all they needed and put in the backups? Would you still be on the same trip and call the backups overrated? Again....games are not won on paper....they are won on the field. Get off the "shoulda...coulda...woulda" train and see that teams are playing well right now and let the brackets be determined on the field, not on paper.
Paper had a tendency to tear at it's weakest point....so do teams....on the field.
In order to rate a team you have to look at them on paper. That is how you rate a team. The paper rating that Trinity had earlier in the season was not as good as the physical team. If you are blowing out PESH, put the backups in, and then PESH gets within 7 points and the starters are not back in there are problems. Trinity is not a top 5 team, they were once rated that high therefore they were overrated.

[dragonfootballfan]

I've seen Trinity with my own eyes. They are not a Top 5 team. Therefore, they were overrated before losing to SGP.
yes and that loss cemented the argument. I don't know why there is any argument.

Rated top 5 + Not top 5 caliber = Overrated

[bleedgreen]

Most of you Jimmy the Greeks best worry about your own teams!!!!!!!!!!! Keep thinking Trinity is a push over :D Overrated or whatever. It figures someone out of Southlake would have an answer. We LOST ONE FRICKING GAME BY A TD. We might not as well show up the rest of the season. GUESS WHAT WE'RE SHOWING UP THOUGH! One of the GREEN teams are gone which GREEN team is next?????
how in the hell did we get thrown into your ET/SLC who's better conversation??? you sound like a little child, gritty---one of the GREEN teams are gone, which GREEN team is next?? i hope you win out tough guy, or i will be on here to let you know that one of the RED teams are gone, which RED team is next?? flat ridiculous--but, i wouldn't expect anything less from you...hope all of that bragging that you have been doing all year doesn't come back to bite you in your a$$.................................

[stevefoxsc]

i dont see how most of those teams are over rated there perfoming fair enough and i still don't see why most of you guy's call long view over rated most of you were predicting them to take state now your omg there so over rated.... i think it's a dumb poll... but if i had to say one team was over rated it wouldn't even be a high school team it be those pasty's in lub texas tech

[stinger]

Oh Man!!! If the unheard of happens and SLC loses...heaven forbid. This will be the longest and funnest thread ever!!!!

[stevefoxsc]

Oh Man!!! If the unheard of happens and SLC loses...heaven forbid. This will be the longest and funnest thread ever!!!!

thing that irritates me if you lose early even to a good team your over rated why???

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

So I take it Plano is gonna get beat this weekend? :eek:

[stinger]

Stevefoxsc...Too many "paper football" players. They gotta do it on paper cuz they don't believe that it's what happens on the field that counts.

[stevefoxsc]

Stevefoxsc...Too many "paper football" players. They gotta do it on paper cuz they don't believe that it's what happens on the field that counts.

good answer

[bullrock]

Judson Rockets...overated preseason. Not rated now. That's a good place to be.

[dragonfootballfan]

Oh Man!!! If the unheard of happens and SLC loses...heaven forbid. This will be the longest and funnest thread ever!!!!
actually I would just admit that Carroll was overrated. I think that the thread will end then.

[dragonfootballfan]

Stevefoxsc...Too many "paper football" players. They gotta do it on paper cuz they don't believe that it's what happens on the field that counts.
so why are you discussing whether a team is overrated or not? you are in fact a "paper football" player by your definition

[dragonfootballfan]

thing that irritates me if you lose early even to a good team your over rated why???
because you were not supposed to lose and followed that performance up with another showing that was about average. When you are supposed to be the best in the state and lose and then play average football the next week you are overrated

[stinger]

dragonfootballfan....do you talk to yourself a lot? You post two times before anyone gets a word in. Last time I checked, this screen wasn't made of paper...Unlike you, I have been to EVERY ET game for several years. If you think winning and paper ratings are the same....back to school for you. Like I stated earlier...if SLC loses...this site will smoke with your answers to the ratings...Will that be fair? HMMMMMM Oh yeah...when did the ratings say the ET was best in the state...you just did.

[dragonfootballfan]

dragonfootballfan....do you talk to yourself a lot? You post two times before anyone gets a word in. Last time I checked, this screen wasn't made of paper...Unlike you, I have been to EVERY ET game for several years. If you think winning and paper ratings are the same....back to school for you. Like I stated earlier...if SLC loses...this site will smoke with your answers to the ratings...Will that be fair? HMMMMMM Oh yeah...when did the ratings say the ET was best in the state...you just did.
go back and look at some of the posts your fellow Trinity fans made. They proclaimed Trinity the best in the state. I am made of paper? What does that even mean? Trinity has not won anything. They have not even won an outright district championship. So yes winning and ratings are not the same, but right now and in the past Carroll has both. Trinity has had the ratings, but never the winning. That is a shame.

[bullrock]

This is starting to get fun. I don't have a hound in this hunt, but didn't SLC play some closer games this year than usual? Maybe, just maybe it's not the good programs playing down , as some would state, but the mediocre programs playing good. You all have to know what that target on your back does to you. Everyone will have an off night or two during the season. What makes the great programs shine is thier reaction to the letdown. They can fold up thier tents and go home or they can practice and study with a little more intensity. I say all of the teams still playing today have done the latter no matter what the records say. When the play-offs started the slate was wiped clean and everyone was even. That still holds true today.

[stinger]

I repeat...when did the ratings say ET was best in the state. YOU DID in your post today. Where does it say YOU are paper? I said the SCREEN is not paper. Slow down and read. Read your earlier posts. I never said ET was best in the state. I said they are good enough to go all the way, their defense may not be the best, but they bend but don't break. They are well trained to make up for mistakes. Whether they win by 30 or 3, it is still a win and they move on. That day they are better than the other team. I think that could apply to anybody. Look at the upsets so far. A lot of highly touted teams have had to step aside and turn in their gear. If it happens to ET, so be it. That day may or may not arrive; that also applies to your boys. Hope you can handle the "paper" chase. Many talk about District strength. Two from 6-5A beat two from 5-5A. Should that be a ratings of districts thing....you tell me. Sounds like it COULD be said that your district is overrated. I don't operate that way. These kids ALL earned where they are. Lets all enjoy watching it happen.

[stinger]

WELL STATED BULLROCK. The shoe doesn't fit in his case.

[dragonfootballfan]

The last statement that you made had a lot of points and I will address everyone that I think needs to be.

1. I repeat...when did the ratings say ET was best in the state. YOU DID in your post today.
I have reread all of my posts that I made today and never once did I say that they were ranked number one. I have said that they made it to the top 5 in some rankings and that is a fact. I stated that many Trinity fans thought that Trinity was the best. I never stated that the rankings said that Trinity was supposed to be the best.

2. Where does it say YOU are paper? I said the SCREEN is not paper. Slow down and read. Read your earlier posts.
I will use a quote of yours to prove this point. It is in post 77. I don't think that you can argue that you did not call me paper. It is pretty clear. It looks like you are the one that is comprehending properly. Maybe it is just selective reading.
....Last time I checked, this screen wasn't made of paper...Unlike you,....
As you can see. You called me paper.

3. I never said ET was best in the state. I said they are good enough to go all the way
What is the difference between best in the state and good enough to go all the way. If you are good enough to go all the way, you are the best in the state and vice versa.

4.their defense may not be the best, but they bend but don't break. They are well trained to make up for mistakes.
Just like in the game against Trinity. Did the defense break then or were they not trained enough to make up for mistakes

5. Whether they win by 30 or 3, it is still a win and they move on.
Trinity lost by seven to SGP. Whether they win or lose does matter

6. Look at the upsets so far. A lot of highly touted teams have had to step aside and turn in their gear. If it happens to ET, so be it. That day may or may not arrive; that also applies to your boys. Hope you can handle the "paper" chase.
I know that I will be able to be man enough to say that Carroll was overrated when they lose, unlike some people on this board that are still not ready to say that their team was overrated.

7. Many talk about District strength. Two from 6-5A beat two from 5-5A. Should that be a ratings of districts thing....you tell me. Sounds like it COULD be said that your district is overrated
Mac was 9-1 and got totally destroyed. They were beat worse than anyone in the district beat them. SGP and Denton Ryan went to overtime with the 6-5A team winning. Trinity beat Fossill Ridge pretty good. Everyone was talking about how if Trinity and Carroll were to meet Trinity would be better prepared, because they play in a much tougher district. 5-5A was supposed to be way worse than 6-5A were I think they held their own. One of your district Champions got dominated and another one got taken to overtime by a team that was tied for second, with a team that beat them. 5-5A may have been underrated by the talk from the people on this site, but 6-5A was definitely overrated since one of their champions got dominated so bad.

7.I don't operate that way. These kids ALL earned where they are. Lets all enjoy watching it happen.
Why are you arguing then. If you do not operated that way why do you keep posting? Don't have a holier than thou attitude when you are doing the exact same thing that I am doing.

[dragonfootballfan]

WELL STATED BULLROCK. The shoe doesn't fit in his case.
you agree with him yet you argued with me for about a page. This does not make any sense

[TrojanFan4Life]

2.
I will use a quote of yours to prove this point. It is in post 77. I don't think that you can argue that you did not call me paper. It is pretty clear. It looks like you are the one that is comprehending properly. Maybe it is just selective reading.

As you can see. You called me paper.


Actually - he didn't call you paper - you miss quoted him. The "Unlike you," was the start of a new sentence = NOT the end of the one.

You do have comprehension problems!!!!!

[dragonfootballfan]

2.
I will use a quote of yours to prove this point. It is in post 77. I don't think that you can argue that you did not call me paper. It is pretty clear. It looks like you are the one that is comprehending properly. Maybe it is just selective reading.

As you can see. You called me paper.


Actually - he didn't call you paper - you miss quoted him. The "Unlike you," was the start of a new sentence = NOT the end of the one.

You do have comprehension problems!!!!!
There were three periods, then two words, then a comma. Can you tell me what that punctuation means? I could not follow it and it looked to me that he was calling me paper. If the proper punctuation were used, I would have been able to figure it out. It is very hard to figure out what is going on in a sentence, much less when one begins and ends, when people use whatever punctuation that they want. Now that you have said what you said, it seems a lot more logical that he meant that.

[gritty52]

Hey bleedgreen what rock did come out from under out there in greentown, there's people on here said they missed you???? You accused me of really being hard on you if you lost a couple of weeks ago. I haven't said a word about your 1st round LOSS!! All I have said is 1 green team down and 1 to go. But as usual you come on here with your out of line assanine uncalled for remarks. We may lose tommorrow I don't know, but you can bet we won't be on here complaining about the ref's and whining like yaw do better than anyone on here. Believe me Trinity is one of if not the most penalized teams in 5A. They find ways of winning even after the ref's have their fun. When you get outplayed take it like a man and talk about next year. HAKA!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

[lonny23]

A few thoughts...

I've consistently stated my opinion that Longview was overrated from the beginning of the year. This does not mean that they weren't a Top 25 team - I just thought Top 5 was too high. And just because they lost one game does not mean that they weren't a real good team this year.

Plano is a good team. DeSoto had a great defense and Plano consistently moved the ball on that team. Because the QB made several mistakes (not forced), DeSoto was able to keep it close. They have not been rated highly all year, so I have a hard time understanding how they're "overrated."

Good point about Clemens minus Henry. He was their stud and as much as their fan base tried to argue that the team was more than one player, the offense certainly proved to be lacking without him.

Trinity is overrated if you consider their defense. SLC would have a hard time stopping the Trinity running game, but Trinity would stand no chance at stopping the SLC passing game. Trinity also has a tendency to commit stupid penalties and put the ball on the ground. Really good teams don't do these things.
Clemens was destined to get beat with or without Henry. He made a difference in their offense, but don't believe for a minute that he was worth 28 points. At best, he might be worth 7 points and Clemens would've still lost by 3 TD's.

[lonny23]

Why does this not surprise me. :D

Plano has a bad game and all of a sudden they are over-rated?

Did anyone say Southlake is over-rated when they almost lost to Grapevine? ;)
No, because they've played in the last 3 title games. I think Plano has a real good team, but they're the most overrated of the teams listed.

[lonny23]

It is my opinion that Trinity is the most overrated team in the state that is still playing. They benefitted from a weak district where the only good team they played they lost. They will benefit from a weak playoff schedule and will be put in their place by a great team from Region 3
District 6 is better than 5. Talk about somebody else being in a weak district.

[lonny23]

how in the hell did we get thrown into your ET/SLC who's better conversation??? you sound like a little child, gritty---one of the GREEN teams are gone, which GREEN team is next?? i hope you win out tough guy, or i will be on here to let you know that one of the RED teams are gone, which RED team is next?? flat ridiculous--but, i wouldn't expect anything less from you...hope all of that bragging that you have been doing all year doesn't come back to bite you in your a$$.................................
I don't care which red team exits stage left as long as the one with the J on the helmet sticks around. :D

GENERAL THREAD STATEMENT: It's sad that we have adults who post like they're still kids to go with the kids who act like kids. It's nothing to get upset about. Please disagree without letting your emotions get invloved.

[lonny23]

Judson Rockets...overated preseason. Not rated now. That's a good place to be.
I think the boys will be back to where they were last year in the semis or maybe a little better going into the game this year.

[lonny23]

This is starting to get fun. I don't have a hound in this hunt, but didn't SLC play some closer games this year than usual? Maybe, just maybe it's not the good programs playing down , as some would state, but the mediocre programs playing good. You all have to know what that target on your back does to you. Everyone will have an off night or two during the season. What makes the great programs shine is thier reaction to the letdown. They can fold up thier tents and go home or they can practice and study with a little more intensity. I say all of the teams still playing today have done the latter no matter what the records say. When the play-offs started the slate was wiped clean and everyone was even. That still holds true today.
The playoffs are a meat grinder. Only a few teams get respect statewide, but there are many good to great teams that don't get the pub. When you lose to a real good team, the state bashes you when there is no great shame in the loss. Some team will lose a game this weekend to a team with a worse record, but that doesn't mean the losing team choked. There are many top teams in Texas that would dominate in other states.

[lonny23]

Hey bleedgreen what rock did come out from under out there in greentown, there's people on here said they missed you???? You accused me of really being hard on you if you lost a couple of weeks ago. I haven't said a word about your 1st round LOSS!! All I have said is 1 green team down and 1 to go. But as usual you come on here with your out of line assanine uncalled for remarks. We may lose tommorrow I don't know, but you can bet we won't be on here complaining about the ref's and whining like yaw do better than anyone on here. Believe me Trinity is one of if not the most penalized teams in 5A. They find ways of winning even after the ref's have their fun. When you get outplayed take it like a man and talk about next year. HAKA!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
C'mon dude. You're trying to flame the fire in the thread. Let's just talk about football.

[PaulinPlano]

GENERAL THREAD STATEMENT: It's sad that we have adults who post like they're still kids to go with the kids who act like kids. It's nothing to get upset about. Please disagree without letting your emotions get invloved.

AMEN.

[dragonfootballfan]

District 6 is better than 5. Talk about somebody else being in a weak district.
did I say that district 5 was better than 6? Just because district 5 was weak, it does not mean that I cannot say that district 6 is weak. Just to show you how weak district 6 is, MacArthur, one of the district champions of 6, got dominated by the champion of district 5 in the playoffs. No strong district should ever have their champion get dominated like that.

[bullrock]

Add 20 to those district numbers and the same thing happened down here.

[lonny23]

did I say that district 5 was better than 6? Just because district 5 was weak, it does not mean that I cannot say that district 6 is weak. Just to show you how weak district 6 is, MacArthur, one of the district champions of 6, got dominated by the champion of district 5 in the playoffs. No strong district should ever have their champion get dominated like that.
Those things do happen when the weaker district has the best team in the state. All I'm saying is that you're wrong about 6. It's a real good district and they took 2 of 3 last week. IMac was a co-champion, but I said about 5 weeks ago that they were worse than SGP and Trinity.

[lonny23]

Add 20 to those district numbers and the same thing happened down here.
In Centex, we have 15 being better than 16.

[dragonfootballfan]

Those things do happen when the weaker district has the best team in the state. All I'm saying is that you're wrong about 6. It's a real good district and they took 2 of 3 last week. IMac was a co-champion, but I said about 5 weeks ago that they were worse than SGP and Trinity.
Lets Analyze this
Carroll > Trinity or SGP
Denton Ryan <= Trinity or SGP
Fossill Ridge <= Irving Macarthur
Grapevine >= Coppell
Colleyville Heritage > Irving Nimitz
Haltom > LD Bell
Keller <= Irving
Richland = Grand Prairie

I know that these are opinions but I think that I came to the conclusions logically. As you can see, in the top three teams 6-5A has a slight advantage but in the bottom of the district 5-5A is as strong if not stronger.

[gritty52]

I'm talking football!! I'm just defending our kids like every swinging soul on here does! I know just about everyone on here wants Trinity to lose. Just look at the post. Every time theres a (next one to lose,overrated, etc.) thread Trinity is always mentioned. OUR DEFENSE HAS SOME HOLES!!!!! That's all you folks talk about!! We are not as perfect as some of these teams, but good grief get off of us. PEACE! :mad: :mad:

[lonny23]

Lets Analyze this
Carroll > Trinity or SGP
Denton Ryan <= Trinity or SGP
Fossill Ridge <= Irving Macarthur
Grapevine >= Coppell
Colleyville Heritage > Irving Nimitz
Haltom > LD Bell
Keller <= Irving
Richland = Grand Prairie

I know that these are opinions but I think that I came to the conclusions logically. As you can see, in the top three teams 6-5A has a slight advantage but in the bottom of the district 5-5A is as strong if not stronger.
There are 32 districts in Texas. You can't just take 5 and 6 and draw your conclusions about the teams. Try comparing them to 4, 9, or 10 in the Dallas area. Look at some of the other districts outside of Dallas. 5 and 6 are both pretty good districts in the grand scheme of things.

[mad_fan]

There are 32 districts in Texas. You can't just take 5 and 6 and draw your conclusions about the teams. Try comparing them to 4, 9, or 10 in the Dallas area. Look at some of the other districts outside of Dallas. 5 and 6 are both pretty good districts in the grand scheme of things.


Sure you can, I've done it before.

[lonny23]

Sure you can, I've done it before.
I know we make conclusions like that on the board, but it doesn't make it much fun when we read somebody that does that.

[Phoenixrising05]

ANYWAYs all this bickering gets on my nerves...the real question is:

who the heck is West Brook? I picked Plano because their fans annoy me...but I would like to repick West Brook since i've never even heard of them. They must be from El Paso. ;)

[bleedgreen]

Hey bleedgreen what rock did come out from under out there in greentown, there's people on here said they missed you???? You accused me of really being hard on you if you lost a couple of weeks ago. I haven't said a word about your 1st round LOSS!! All I have said is 1 green team down and 1 to go. But as usual you come on here with your out of line assanine uncalled for remarks. We may lose tommorrow I don't know, but you can bet we won't be on here complaining about the ref's and whining like yaw do better than anyone on here. Believe me Trinity is one of if not the most penalized teams in 5A. They find ways of winning even after the ref's have their fun. When you get outplayed take it like a man and talk about next year. HAKA!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
hey gritty...i got your "rock" buddy!! have you ONCE seen or heard me complain about the "ref" situation in our loss?? i don't think you have smart-guy..."take it like a man", you said?? i believe that i have handled it pretty well....no excuses from me---you may want to direct that useless oxygen of yours to the other Lobo posters who were bragging...you need to get your crap straight before you open that mouth of yours again......AGAIN i'll ask how in the hell did the green team(and i know which one you were referring to)that has already "gone down" get involved in your childish arguing and bickering between your fellow ET posters and SLC posters....are we going to avoid the question yet one more time??? probably so, huh??? if you can't answer my question, then don't answer at all--i'll understand...you brought us up, so i asked you the question, TWICE!! oh, and can you believe that people actually missed me??? and even started a thread about me wondering where i was and how i was?? that's right, gritty---those are TRUE fans and friends that i have been discussing football with for 4 years on this board...jealous are we?? don't worry, when you build up the respect, you MAY have a thread about you someday...then again, don't hold your breath........"haka"?? man, go ahead and get that thing up or head to the ER and they can help you out with that problem..............

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Carter is overrated!!!!!


Garland good job tonite.

[Butch Fifield]

..

[wide-e-wide]

I'm the only one that is sick of hearing about the "haka"?

[drgnbkr]

I'm the only one that is sick of hearing about the "haka"?

Is'nt that something you do when you have a cold?

[wide-e-wide]

Is'nt that something you do when you have a cold?


I thought it was that game Gretzky was good at?

[drgnbkr]

I thought it was that game Gretzky was good at?

I thought he was best at finding hot wives....

[wide-e-wide]

I thought he was best at finding hot wives....


that too...hahahaha

Isn't haka what the QB says when he wants the ball?

[drgnbkr]

that too...hahahaha

Isn't haka what the QB says when he wants the ball?

I thought he said hup....or in the spread..the center snaps it when he is damn good & ready....

[wide-e-wide]

I thought he said hup....or in the spread..the center snaps it when he is damn good & ready....


LMAO drgnbkr...

I almost forgot how funny you are...ahahaha

If it's Adrian McPherson he tells the left guard hup...hahahaha

Did you see him in preseason when he lined up under the wrong guy?
Not exactly how you want to start your NFL career.

[drgnbkr]

LMAO drgnbkr...

I almost forgot how funny you are...ahahaha

If it's Adrian McPherson he tells the left guard hup...hahahaha

Did you see him in preseason when he lined up under the wrong guy?
Not exactly how you want to start your NFL career.

Yeah..occasionally our center snaps the rock when the QB is'nt looking..& hits him somewhere, usually in the helmet...all hell breaks loose while McElroy & Newton start looking for the ball..hate it when that happens..so does Dodge...

[gritty52]

Now that I got your attention there bleedgreen I'll really let you know something. You are nothing but a big old baby that are as confused as the rest of your green bunch. I can care less about you and your greenwave. People like you are what really make this stuff interesting. ANYTHING and EVERYTHING gets to you. Trinity might lose tommorrow hell I don't know!! Do you know?? If you do let's play some lotto numbers. In closing it will be nice to go a game tommorrow and root my team on than have to sit at HOME!!! and ONE LAST TIME :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: HAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

[stinger]

Dragonfan...(oops, three periods) Here are some replies to some of your statemenst:
2- Three periods is a pause, usuallly start of a thought.
3-Many teams are good enough to go all the way. What stops them can be anything, such as fumbles, breaks, etc. Does that make them a bad team?
4- How did Trinity play Trinity? You said; "When they played Trinity" Explain how that is possible.
5. Who really wrote a page? I think you went a lot closer to a page than I.
Just a few of the items I found before I started some honeydoes around the house.

[drgnbkr]

Now that I got your attention there bleedgreen I'll really let you know something. You are nothing but a big old baby that are as confused as the rest of your green bunch. I can care less about you and your greenwave. People like you are what really make this stuff interesting. ANYTHING and EVERYTHING gets to you. Trinity might lose tommorrow hell I don't know!! Do you know?? If you do let's play some lotto numbers. In closing it will be nice to go a game tommorrow and root my team on than have to sit at HOME!!! and ONE LAST TIME :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: HAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

Dang..here we are having fun & you come on here all hard and stuff...your serious about this football stuff are'nt you?

[wide-e-wide]

Can I borrow that one?

wide: what the hell are you talking about?

wife: You know what I am talking about...

wide: what do you mean no more beer tonight?

wife: You heard me...no more!

wide: hey.....HAAAAKKKKAAAAAAAAAAA!

It just might work.

[gritty52]

I don't see this having to do anything with you there drgnbkr or whatever! Looks like you green folks stick together. I'm just as serious as you are! Alot of you folks are having fun with the HAKA! Why don't you and your cronies leave well enough alone, and quit downgrading something that has our fans, students, and team excited! Go blow fire somewhere else!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[wide-e-wide]

Me and drgnbkr are cronies?

Hell yeah...I'm in with the in-crowd now...

Now if I could just be as cool as Lonny.

[drgnbkr]

I don't see this having to do anything with you there drgnbkr or whatever! Looks like you green folks stick together. I'm just as serious as you are! Alot of you folks are having fun with the HAKA! Why don't you and your cronies leave well enough alone, and quit downgrading something that has our fans, students, and team excited! Go blow fire somewhere else!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

It has nothing to do with downgrading you guys..just having fun..you should see some of the signs at our games....puff the majic dragon, flame the dragons, etc.....good luck this weekend......

[drgnbkr]

Me and drgnbkr are cronies?

Hell yeah...I'm in with the in-crowd now...

Now if I could just be as cool as Lonny.

Hey..us HOF'ers gotta stick together....

[wide-e-wide]

Hey..us HOF'ers gotta stick together....


At least I have the approval of a few of the HOF'ers...
'preciate that shipmate.

[BigArab]

I thought he said hup....or in the spread..the center snaps it when he is damn good & ready....

Family Guy quote: "Well Phinneaus, what a nice day to be lifting these triangular weights, HUP HUP HUP!"

[drgnbkr]

At least I have the approval of a few of the HOF'ers...
'preciate that shipmate.

I guess we oughta think about gettin a real life now that we're discharged....

[wide-e-wide]

I guess we oughta think about gettin a real life now that we're discharged....


I'm trying...but it's doubtful...hahaha

Still got the drinking part down pat...so I guess I'm some-what active duty.

[drgnbkr]

I'm trying...but it's doubtful...hahaha

Still got the drinking part down pat...so I guess I'm some-what active duty.

"You boys be good on liberty..you hear? Leave a little bit of the town for the natives"....canned speach from bosuns mate school of hard knocks...

[Primetime536]

I'm trying...but it's doubtful...hahaha

Still got the drinking part down pat...so I guess I'm some-what active duty.
say, wide what time would i need to get to the game, to get a seat tom.

[wide-e-wide]

"You boys be good on liberty..you hear? Leave a little bit of the town for the natives"....canned speach from bosuns mate school of hard knocks...


Leave it to the resident squids to hijack a thread and turn it into liberty call..hahahaha

My favorite one...

DOGS AND SAILORS STAY OFF OF LAWN!

[BigWhiteJake]

well looks like dallas carter gets the overrated award

[drgnbkr]

Leave it to the resident squids to hijack a thread and turn it into liberty call..hahahaha

My favorite one...

DOGS AND SAILORS STAY OFF OF LAWN!

You've been to Norfolk..or as we use to say Nof-ck

[wide-e-wide]

You've been to Norfolk..or as we use to say Nof-ck


Yeah...I was on the Ike for a year...and worked at PSD for two...lived off Laskin Rd. in Va. Beach...never saw the signs...but had BMCS tell me all about the old days.

[drgnbkr]

Yeah...I was on the Ike for a year...and worked at PSD for two...lived off Laskin Rd. in Va. Beach...never saw the signs...but had BMCS tell me all about the old days.

I was on an LST based at Little Creek..lived right by the Cheaspeake Bay Bridge...

[wide-e-wide]

I was on an LST based at Little Creek..lived right by the Cheaspeake Bay Bridge...


You mean the freakin' $10 to cross bridge?
Yeah...I used to pay that crap all the time going to New Jersey for the weekend...
My step-brother was on the "new" Iwo Jima out of Little Creek...horrible base...Dam Neck is by far the nicest base out there.

[stinger]

Whoa....ex-sailors...I was on minesweepers back in the early 70's. Homeported first out of Guam, then e reserve boat in Seattle. Many tours in Nam and Wespac cruises. Didn't have the opportunity to base on the east coast. Small world.

[StormingCowboy]

well looks like dallas carter gets the overrated award

I disagree. Garland is underrated!!!

[lonny23]

Carter is overrated!!!!!


Garland good job tonite.
I'm through with Carter. They can't win in the playoffs and it doesn't matter that they have a 2-time title winning coach on their side. I almost picked them to lose this game, but didn't. I thought they might get another win over Garland, but I was foolish. Carter isn't tested and Garland is.

[lonny23]

I don't see this having to do anything with you there drgnbkr or whatever! Looks like you green folks stick together. I'm just as serious as you are! Alot of you folks are having fun with the HAKA! Why don't you and your cronies leave well enough alone, and quit downgrading something that has our fans, students, and team excited! Go blow fire somewhere else!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
We let the SLC fans blow fire! :p

[lonny23]

Me and drgnbkr are cronies?

Hell yeah...I'm in with the in-crowd now...

Now if I could just be as cool as Lonny.
Keep working at it! :D

[StormingCowboy]

I'm through with Carter. They can't win in the playoffs and it doesn't matter that they have a 2-time title winning coach on their side. I almost picked them to lose this game, but didn't. I thought they might get another win over Garland, but I was foolish. Carter isn't tested and Garland is.

What can you do when you're stuck in DISD??

[lonny23]

What can you do when you're stuck in DISD??
You guys could do 2 things.

Drop down to 4A since you have had the numbers in the past, but maybe not in 2006.

Get a killer non-district schedule. You get credit for Garland and A Lamr is OK because they've been good in the past. A Sam Houston doesn't help you and neither does playing Kimball. I like tradition, but you have to take a look at tradition getting in the way of later playoff wins.

[dragonfootballfan]

What can you do when you're stuck in DISD??
you guys had a good season. Non district and district strength of schedule does not matter. GP North Shore and Houston Westfield have some of the weakest schedules and they still manage a deep run. SOS prior to the playoffs is one of the most overrated things in all of high school football.

[BigDaddy]

dada4w how can u say that Amarillo is overrated? I don't see how they made this poll for that matter. They havent been rated or even given a chance all season. All they do is win. The one loss had alot of variable that could have been factored in the loss, but I will not discredit Midlands win. Todays game3 will be tough, no doubt. But if Amarillo wins, perhaps some of the peanut gallery might hush their mouths and start giving a little respect.Go Sandies! :mad:

[lonny23]

dada4w how can u say that Amarillo is overrated? I don't see how they made this poll for that matter. They havent been rated or even given a chance all season. All they do is win. The one loss had alot of variable that could have been factored in the loss, but I will not discredit Midlands win. Todays game3 will be tough, no doubt. But if Amarillo wins, perhaps some of the peanut gallery might hush their mouths and start giving a little respect.Go Sandies! :mad:
I like Amarillo, but you don't have 23 points of variables very often, but you do usually have the better team winning if it's a 23 point margin.

[lonny23]

you guys had a good season. Non district and district strength of schedule does not matter. GP North Shore and Houston Westfield have some of the weakest schedules and they still manage a deep run. SOS prior to the playoffs is one of the most overrated things in all of high school football.
No it's not. The better districts typically win more playoff games. Westfield has a decent district and North Shore has a lot better district than Carter, too.

[dragonfootballfan]

SOS does not matter. The best team will win no matter who they play. It does not make a team any better by playing in a tough district rather than a soft one.

[bleedgreen]

I don't see this having to do anything with you there drgnbkr or whatever! Looks like you green folks stick together. I'm just as serious as you are! Alot of you folks are having fun with the HAKA! Why don't you and your cronies leave well enough alone, and quit downgrading something that has our fans, students, and team excited! Go blow fire somewhere else!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
did you say "blow"??? i bet that you are good at that gritty......again, i say--i hope that you win it all so that you aren't eating any crow for all of the sh*t that you have been bragging about.....who cares how far you go in the playoffs?? do people remember how far a team went or who actually won the title?? you don't get awards for going far in the playoffs, only the trophy at the end of the title game.....i hope ET goes all the way..they sound like a really great program...but, as far as YOU are concerned, i hope you fall flat on your face....................

[dragonfootballfan]

you don't get awards for going far in the playoffs, only the trophy at the end of the title game.....
you do get awards for each playoff game you win and if you make it to the semifinals the players and coaches get medals, but really who cares about those. I don't care how many bi-district championships my team has won. Does anyone else?

[bleedgreen]

you do get awards for each playoff game you win and if you make it to the semifinals the players and coaches get medals, but really who cares about those. I don't care how many bi-district championships my team has won. Does anyone else?
exactly my point, Dragonfootballfan...i'm with you brother.....this guy just like to listen to himself talk...mild case of multiple personality disorder---i see it everyday at nursing homes, hospitals, and insane asylums......gritty is definitely a candidate--LOL.....................

[dragonfootballfan]

exactly my point, Dragonfootballfan...i'm with you brother.....this guy just like to listen to himself talk...mild case of multiple personality disorder---i see it everyday at nursing homes, hospitals, and insane asylums......gritty is definitely a candidate--LOL.....................
I am sure Gritty will bring some smack about how Trinity killed PESH. I am ready, in my book Trinity is still overrated.

[DirtyHarry01]

For the last three going on four years, people on every board published have said SLC is overrated. Until someone knocks them off, they aren't. So why keep beating that dead horse?

[RidgePride]

In order to rate a team you have to look at them on paper. That is how you rate a team. The paper rating that Trinity had earlier in the season was not as good as the physical team. If you are blowing out PESH, put the backups in, and then PESH gets within 7 points and the starters are not back in there are problems. Trinity is not a top 5 team, they were once rated that high therefore they were overrated.

Trinity's Offense (in my opinion) earned 21 points against Fossil Ridge.

One of their touchdowns was from an interception that was taken to the Ridge 1 Yard line.

Another TD came when the ball went right through a Fossil Ridge Defenders hands for a long TD pass. (Just a fluke play)

Final score was Trinity 35 Ridge 20

[drgnbkr]

For the last three going on four years, people on every board published have said SLC is overrated. Until someone knocks them off, they aren't. So why keep beating that dead horse?

Boy, I've seen lots of envy and bitterness..but have'nt seen anyone saying Carroll was overrated...59-1 in 5-A in the state with the highest quality football..?

[RidgePride]

Boy, I've seen lots of envy and bitterness..but have'nt seen anyone saying Carroll was overrated...59-1 in 5-A in the state with the highest quality football..?
Carroll is not overrated - I think everyone knows that.

Even if they lose this year.

[bleedgreen]

I am sure Gritty will bring some smack about how Trinity killed PESH. I am ready, in my book Trinity is still overrated.
they beat Plano East...WOW?? that was some accomplishment, huh??? if it would have been Plano, then maybe i would think that was something...PESH?? nah, not impressed............anyone who says SLC is overrated are fools!! i've said it many, many, times....they are the "kings" until someone knocks them off.....let 'em talk....i will definitely be at the SLC/Lufkin game, no matter where it is..................

[drgnbkr]

they beat Plano East...WOW?? that was some accomplishment, huh??? if it would have been Plano, then maybe i would think that was something...PESH?? nah, not impressed............anyone who says SLC is overrated are fools!! i've said it many, many, times....they are the "kings" until someone knocks them off.....let 'em talk....i will definitely be at the SLC/Lufkin game, no matter where it is..................

In all honesty, PESH was probably the weakest offensive team we played this year. They had no offensive threats whatsoever..yet they hung 20 on Trinity..go figure...

[bleedgreen]

In all honesty, PESH was probably the weakest offensive team we played this year. They had no offensive threats whatsoever..yet they hung 20 on Trinity..go figure...
i'm not surprised a bit......if they hung 20 on Trinity, how much do you think Westfield will hang on them?? man, that might get ugly!! and Westfield has a defense to stop the run...i see that they have an EP team next...that should be a hard one, huh???

[farmerfan]

In all honesty, PESH was probably the weakest offensive team we played this year. They had no offensive threats whatsoever..yet they hung 20 on Trinity..go figure...


The 20 scored on Trinty came on the second and third teamers. The halftime score was 42-0 Trinity. Lineweaver came out at the start of the second half and did not have the starters in the game. The 20 that PESH hung on Trinity is a lot like the 21 that I-Mac hung on Carroll last week.

[WildcatFan]

It's no surprise that Plano gets so many votes for this...Haters.

Actually I think Plano was one of the most underrated teams all season never cracking the State Top 10.

You may not like them but they are 12-0 on their way meet Midland, then on to SLC.

[drgnbkr]

The 20 scored on Trinty came on the second and third teamers. The halftime score was 42-0 Trinity. Lineweaver came out at the start of the second half and did not have the starters in the game. The 20 that PESH hung on Trinity is a lot like the 21 that I-Mac hung on Carroll last week.

Farmerfan, my point was that PESH's offense was pretty weak..Carroll had subs in for the second half too..they never had a sniff of the red zone...this spun out from the subject of the thread..sorry

[gritty52]

You folks are really hung on yourselves aren't you?? Bleedgreen you blow pretty good yourself at home with nothing to do! I feel the suction coming from East Texas. Another luck victory today for ET. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHO WE PLAY CALL UP THE UIL AND HAVE OUR SCHEDULE CHANGED! The 20 scored on us there ultimate *** hole dragon or whoever was scored on our 2 and 3 string. I know yaw gave up 15 to a pretty dismal Allen bunch with benoit and the 1st unit. Bleed we will still be playing next week where will you be at home in a closet playing with yourself?? PEACE!!!

[drgnbkr]

You folks are really hung on yourselves aren't you?? Bleedgreen you blow pretty good yourself at home with nothing to do! I feel the suction coming from East Texas. Another luck victory today for ET. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHO WE PLAY CALL UP THE UIL AND HAVE OUR SCHEDULE CHANGED! The 20 scored on us there ultimate *** hole dragon or whoever was scored on our 2 and 3 string. I know yaw gave up 15 to a pretty dismal Allen bunch with benoit and the 1st unit. Bleed we will still be playing next week where will you be at home in a closet playing with yourself?? PEACE!!!

Your envy is showing there bud..get a grip..or better yet, put the beer down..you'll be slobbering pretty soon...

[wide-e-wide]

Your envy is showing there bud..get a grip..or better yet, put the beer down..you'll be slobbering pretty soon...


In my humble opinion drgnbkr is obviously the most overrated HOF'er...the dude is just mediocre at best... :D

[farmerfan]

Farmerfan, my point was that PESH's offense was pretty weak..Carroll had subs in for the second half too..they never had a sniff of the red zone...this spun out from the subject of the thread..sorry


i just saw where yall were laughing at Trinity for giving up 20 to PESH. Well they shut them out in the first half and had they kept the starters in the whole game most likely would have continued the shutout. When you are up 42-0 at the break their is no need to play the starters and points will be given up.

I also dont think it is right to say a team is overrated when they are still playing. If Trinity wins state will they still be overrated?

By the way dgbkr, yalls defense was once again dominate. I dont know if my memory serves me right, but I dont recall a single Allen first down in the 1st half. At one point in the 2nd quarter I also had if figured to where they were in the negatives in total yards.
Benoist is a beast and one heck of a LB, seems that I have been hearing his name called since 93, he has been around a while. Good luck against the Eagles.

[Butch Fifield]

believe it or not but PESH has a pretty dang good defense.

Carroll had only 17 points against them thru 3 quarters, and that takes some doing. Trinity ran thru PESH's defense like nobody has come close to all year. Trinity-Carroll would be a great game.

[farmerfan]

You folks are really hung on yourselves aren't you?? Bleedgreen you blow pretty good yourself at home with nothing to do! I feel the suction coming from East Texas. Another luck victory today for ET. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHO WE PLAY CALL UP THE UIL AND HAVE OUR SCHEDULE CHANGED! The 20 scored on us there ultimate *** hole dragon or whoever was scored on our 2 and 3 string. I know yaw gave up 15 to a pretty dismal Allen bunch with benoit and the 1st unit. Bleed we will still be playing next week where will you be at home in a closet playing with yourself?? PEACE!!!


whoa buddy, calm down. This post gives your team a bad name and will continue to have people talk about Trinity the way they are in this thread.
You are also wrong about the dragon D today. Like Trinity they had subs in during the second half. The Carroll first team defense has been nothing short of dominating during the first two weeks of the playoffs.
I suggest you back off Gritty. Those remarks are uncalled for and flat out wrong.

[drgnbkr]

i just saw where yall were laughing at Trinity for giving up 20 to PESH. Well they shut them out in the first half and had they kept the starters in the whole game most likely would have continued the shutout. When you are up 42-0 at the break their is no need to play the starters and points will be given up.

I also dont think it is right to say a team is overrated when they are still playing. If Trinity wins state will they still be overrated?

By the way dgbkr, yalls defense was once again dominate. I dont know if my memory serves me right, but I dont recall a single Allen first down in the 1st half. At one point in the 2nd quarter I also had if figured to where they were in the negatives in total yards.
Benoist is a beast and one heck of a LB, seems that I have been hearing his name called since 93, he has been around a while. Good luck against the Eagles.

Dang, like I said the thread spun out of control there so I apologized..The Carroll D is as good as I've ever seen & I've been living in southlake for 13 years..Benoit is a leader and plays like he's been around for years...Boydston was in the Allen backfield all night too..he played like a beast..

[drgnbkr]

In my humble opinion drgnbkr is obviously the most overrated HOF'er...the dude is just mediocre at best... :D

WTF did I do? C'mon bud gimme a break..I'm tired from getting up & down the whole game...I'm tired

[wide-e-wide]

WTF did I do? C'mon bud gimme a break..I'm tired from getting up & down the whole game...I'm tired


Maybe I was too harsh with my criticism...You are the Karl Malone of the board...solid...dependable..but you get none of the glory...

Hey it could be worse...you could be the John Stockton of the board...and have to wear booty shorts.

[drgnbkr]

Maybe I was too harsh with my criticism...You are the Karl Malone of the board...solid...dependable..but you get none of the glory...

Hey it could be worse...you could be the John Stockton of the board...and have to wear booty shorts.

Yeah, there ya go..how did you know I was buffed like the mailman? Those shorts of Stocktons give me a wedgie just looking at him..he singlehandedly started the droopy drawers craze... :D

[wide-e-wide]

Yeah, there ya go..how did you know I was buffed like the mailman? Those shorts of Stocktons give me a wedgie just looking at him..he singlehandedly started the droopy drawers craze... :D


LMAO...yeah he did...
What's crazy is if you see early footage of Jordan...he used to wear the booty shorts...and he had hair :eek: ...hahaha

[drgnbkr]

LMAO...yeah he did...
What's crazy is if you see early footage of Jordan...he used to wear the booty shorts...and he had hair :eek: ...hahaha

I know..for a while he had a short fro...man he could fly....I miss him..like Gretzky, Montana, Ali, and Tiger..he transcended his sport...

[wide-e-wide]

I know..for a while he had a short fro...man he could fly....I miss him..like Gretzky, Montana, Ali, and Tiger..he transcended his sport...


What happened to posters?
Remember...every kid in America used to have posters of NBA stars...now that fad is gone and forgotten...

Myself...I had a George Gervin "Iceman" poster with him sitting on the blocks of ice...awesome poster..

I also had one with Jordan dunking in Ewings grill back in the early 80's...

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I PERSONALLY like being overated. We are the most overrated team in the state. I guess we proved it tonight against a faster more athletic SGP team and we still won. WOW!! :) :D

[drgnbkr]

I PERSONALLY like being overated. We are the most overrated team in the state. I guess we proved it tonight against a faster more athletic SGP team and we still won. WOW!! :) :D

Yeah, that surprised me, but I think you guys had too much TEAM for SGP...they look like a lot of individual talents to me..IMO

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Yeah, that surprised me, but I think you guys had too much TEAM for SGP...they look like a lot of individual talents to me..IMO

I agree. Their offense was not to impressive. Dewberry the QB was not to impressive. Wish I had a dollar for every duck he threw of a pass.

Overall Plano was better coached and prepared and executed a whole lot better than SGP. Need to stop those darn turnovers to continue to win though.

Saw Mr. Dodge hanging around watching the game tonight. Why would he be doing that? :rolleyes:

[drgnbkr]

I agree. Their offense was not to impressive. Dewberry the QB was not to impressive. Wish I had a dollar for every duck he threw of a pass.

Overall Plano was better coached and prepared and executed a whole lot better than SGP. Need to stop those darn turnovers to continue to win though.

Saw Mr. Dodge hanging around watching the game tonight. Why would he be doing that? :rolleyes:

He respects the Plano tradition.....looking for ways to stop the option...forgot where he parked his car..decided to stay.. :D

[dragonfootballfan]

What happened to posters?
Remember...every kid in America used to have posters of NBA stars...now that fad is gone and forgotten...

Myself...I had a George Gervin "Iceman" poster with him sitting on the blocks of ice...awesome poster..

I also had one with Jordan dunking in Ewings grill back in the early 80's...
The last poster that I got was the one of John Starks Dunking over Jordan and Pippen. It was awesome

[RidgePride]

It's no surprise that Plano gets so many votes for this...Haters.

Actually I think Plano was one of the most underrated teams all season never cracking the State Top 10.

You may not like them but they are 12-0 on their way meet Midland, then on to SLC.
I agree - -

[reed35]

Overall Plano was better coached and prepared and executed a whole lot better than SGP. Need to stop those darn turnovers to continue to win though.

Saw Mr. Dodge hanging around watching the game tonight. Why would he be doing that? :rolleyes:

Hpefully Dodge did not pay attention to Brence to much, or Dodge will forget how to bring the team on the field. That was very embarassing.

[wildcatforever]

Reed 35,
you obviously have a dislike for Brence as thats what you have been posting about the last three weeks. You must have been that backup that thought he should have been starting. Grow Up

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Hpefully Dodge did not pay attention to Brence to much, or Dodge will forget how to bring the team on the field. That was very embarassing.

Thats Ok. He can do that every game if they continue to win. :)

[reed35]

Thats Ok. He can do that every game if they continue to win. :)

That is true......

[reed35]

Reed 35,
you obviously have a dislike for Brence as thats what you have been posting about the last three weeks. You must have been that backup that thought he should have been starting. Grow Up

No, i played before Brence and have known him since he started. I have never liked his attitude toward the tradition started long before him. I seriously hope he keeps this going, as last night they looked more prepared than they have in a few weeks.

[bleedgreen]

Your envy is showing there bud..get a grip..or better yet, put the beer down..you'll be slobbering pretty soon...
yea, i said it earlier--border line MPD(multiple personality disorder)....did he just call dragon an a-hole?? that's a combination of beer and xanax...i recognize this anywhere...this was me 2 saturdays ago--LOL......hope your not stripped of your title gritty for cussing at someone...other than you are concerned, congrats to ET......................

[BayouBoy34]

Bleed's got a good point. If Katy gets beat this week - then they were over-rated? SClemens was not over-rated - they lost 80% of their offense to a broken leg - how do you rate that? Bottom line is any team can be beat on any given week - and you have to have some way to rank a Top 10.

Getting back to the list - I don't think any of those teams can be classified as over-rated. I guess if a top 10 team gets beat 38-0 this week then maybe they were over-rated -- but SG beating LV by one point? That's just an upset in my book.

Excellant points. Any team can be beaten in any week. %$*@ happens. Key players get hurt, players make uncharacteristic mistakes, etc.

[TrojanHorse03]

Farmerfan, my point was that PESH's offense was pretty weak..Carroll had subs in for the second half too..they never had a sniff of the red zone...this spun out from the subject of the thread..sorry

Where u at that game :confused: ????

[TrojanFan4Life]

Farmerfan, my point was that PESH's offense was pretty weak..Carroll had subs in for the second half too..they never had a sniff of the red zone...this spun out from the subject of the thread..sorry


And didn't ya'll play them in preseason - I guess only the teams you didn't destroy that you should have like Grapevine are the ones that improved from preseason to the last game - WE scored more points than you and their first team scored on our 2nd and 3rd teamers - we weren't looking for a shut out - we were looking for a win - didn't know you had to shut out opponents to be dominant in a game - and if that theory is the one you present then SLC wasn't dominant - which is stupid because unfortunately they were!

[TrojanFan4Life]

I am sure Gritty will bring some smack about how Trinity killed PESH. I am ready, in my book Trinity is still overrated.


in your book everyone is overrated except SLC - I don't approve of Gritty or his behavior - but stop bashing ET every time you post - get over it!

[wide-e-wide]

And didn't ya'll play them in preseason - I guess only the teams you didn't destroy that you should have like Grapevine are the ones that improved from preseason to the last game - WE scored more points than you and their first team scored on our 2nd and 3rd teamers - we weren't looking for a shut out - we were looking for a win - didn't know you had to shut out opponents to be dominant in a game - and if that theory is the one you present then SLC wasn't dominant - which is stupid because unfortunately they were!


If you are going to argue about scrimmages...we are going to have to turn you into the board police...
Only Longview fans are allowed to argue about scrimmages...AND they have dibs on making t-shirts about thme too....so find your own trademark...and leave their's alone.

[bleedgreen]

If you are going to argue about scrimmages...we are going to have to turn you into the board police...
Only Longview fans are allowed to argue about scrimmages...AND they have dibs on making t-shirts about thme too....so find your own trademark...and leave their's alone.
yea, what he said--LOL............

[TrojanFan4Life]

If you are going to argue about scrimmages...we are going to have to turn you into the board police...
Only Longview fans are allowed to argue about scrimmages...AND they have dibs on making t-shirts about thme too....so find your own trademark...and leave their's alone.


not a scrimmage you dummy - maybe I need to be a little more specific - NON DISTRICT games at the beginning of the year - I think it was the 3 game of the season.

Who cares about scrimmages - no one!!!!!

[dragonfootballfan]

not a scrimmage you dummy - maybe I need to be a little more specific - NON DISTRICT games at the beginning of the year - I think it was the 3 game of the season.

Who cares about scrimmages - no one!!!!!
no need for name calling.

[wide-e-wide]

Who cares about scrimmages - no one!!!!!

I beg to differ...

[gritty52]

Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm Going To Be Friendly To Everyone!! I've Quit Drinking, Cussing And Everyone Is My Bud! If I Ruffled You Folks Feathers, Peace!! I Have A Big Game Vs. El Paso To Get Ready For!
Trojan For Life Sure Am Glad Your With Me, And I Did Not Cuss One Time That They Didn't Bash Us Or The Haka. Officially I Am A Changed Man. My Trojans Are Still Close To Me Even If They Are O'rated, Fat , Out Of Shape, And Slow. Nance Still Has A Chance At 3000 Yds. And 37 Td's. They Are Very Few In The State That Can Match That!!! So Peace To Everyone And Please Let Your Feathers Rest! :d :d

[gldneagles]

Yes, If Katy gets beat by Cy Creek this week then Katy IS WAY overated.
ouch! that hurts us 175a backers! you are stepping on everyone's toes in here!

just kidding. ya'll looked real good last saturday (against creek). looks like you might be just about warmed up now.