Copperas Cove: Contender or Pretender?

[CoveFan05]

IMO Copperas Cove can contend for a title. They have a tough road the rest of the way..Leander, Carter, Lufkin, SLC, SV. Its possible, but truly i think they bow out in the RF or Semis.

[FootballJunkie]

IMO Copperas Cove can contend for a title. They have a tough road the rest of the way..Leander, Carter, Lufkin, SLC, SV. Its possible, but truly i think they bow out in the RF or Semis.

I'm impressese with your confidence in your team. :rolleyes:

[Purple Haze]

BIG Pretender!

[Primetime536]

hmm, im not sure, i wont say. the way they played against hh pretender. but with their great diciplain and execution of the fundamentals i say contender

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[FootballJunkie]

hmm, im not sure, i wont say. the way they played against hh pretender. but with their great diciplain and execution of the fundamentals i say contender

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HMMMM Cove beat HH 35-20...Lufkin beat HH 31-24 in OT...interesting you would say that :D

[BAMF cowboy]

i honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cove came out of Region 2. Depends if they can get past lufkin. And even after that, you'll still have the likes of SLC, Katy, or SV

[CoveFan05]

HMMMM Cove beat HH 35-20...Lufkin beat HH 31-24 in OT...interesting you would say that :D


Ya i find it quiet funny. Heights played their best games of the year vs. both these teams. Yet Cove won by 15 and Lufkin just 7 in OT

[VB Pack Fan]

So what does that mean :rolleyes:

[Redneckn]

pretender

[FootballJunkie]

So what does that mean :rolleyes:

Means exaclty what it says ;)

[toonman]

Contender. Cove will have the benefit of last year's play-off run. I think they are looking good - I Confirm "Contender"

[BigWhiteJake]

Big Time Contender, as a matter of fact i could see cove beating lufkin, i would say beating SLC is a bit ambitious, but covefan you wont be playing SV in the finals anyways...Katy Katy Katy

[ACM Dad]

Cove's got a good team. Definite contender IMHO.

I still think Consol outplayed them in our season meeting. With the exception of 2 key defensive plays on their part, we solidly took it to them, controlled the game. We just ran out of time. :) That's one we definitely shoud have won. It would have been worth it to go "small school" just to get another shot at them.

That was one of the hardest hitting high school football games I've seen ever.

[FootballJunkie]

Cove's got a good team. Definite contender IMHO.

I still think Consol outplayed them in our season meeting. With the exception of 2 key defensive plays on their part, we solidly took it to them, controlled the game. We just ran out of time. :) That's one we definitely shoud have won. It would have been worth it to go "small school" just to get another shot at them.

That was one of the hardest hitting high school football games I've seen ever.

Was a real good game ;)

[dawgdude86]

amc dad
the tigers did out play them but the score board told the only story that matters. By no means is that ment to be a put down or trash. AMC is a very good team and gave the dawgs all they wanted in that game. Good luck vs. Pville. rep the district well

[DawgsFanForLife]

I think we are looking good and as long as we take it one game at a time we will be ok. Stay focused on the game at hand and everything will work its way out.

Cove has been out played in 2-3 games this year including the AMC game but they made the key plays that put the points on the board which allowed them to get the wins.

This is a sign of a good team when they can capitalize on some of the plays that allow them to get the win.

Cove has donw that in the close games or in the couple games that they did not play their best.

I think we will go a little deeper and get passed Leander. It gets harder every week but we have great athletes and coaches and at 11-0 they are doing something right so far.

No matter what happens, there will always be those that will say Cove or whoever is no good, they have no history but who cares. The fans are happy they are doing good and what they have done the past few years is a lot more than many other programs have been able to accomplish so:

GO DAWGS!!!


DFFL

[caesarscott]

pretender. there's a half dozen or more teams in D2 better than Cove

[CoveFan05]

pretender. there's a half dozen or more teams in D2 better than Cove

Whatever...Friday or Saturday, Yall will findout that there are 8 teams better than you in D1 including AMC. The only teams I beleive that are better than Cove are SLC and Katy. Were at the same level with Lufkin and Abilene

[caesarscott]

What Pflugerville does or doesn't do against Consolidated on Friday night has nothing to do with the status of Copperas Cove as a pretender.

Y'all will have your hands full with Leander. Who'll win? i dont have a clue. but it'll be a good game

[CoveFan05]

Ya and you coming outta D1 has nothing to do with D2

[Covedawg]

My buddies and I will be there Friday sitting with the AMC croud routing on a fellow 13-5A school, so don't get upset when you see some Cove colors and one guy in Temple attire, we will be routing for the Tigers to take it to P-Ville..

Contender....Pretender.....who the hell knows, Cove just keeps playing and winning and it really does'nt matter what any one thinks..Anyone that plays in 13-5A knows going 7-0 is one helluva feat. I think it's really quit funny that everyone thinks Lufkin must of had a "down" game against Heights........it couldn't possible have had anything to do with Heights boys taken it to them... plz

Ask Klein Forest what happened......ask The Woodlands what happened

You can't make a call like contender/pretender by reading newpaper stories ...If you have'nt seen Cove play then you opinions are just a bunch of Horse sh... ah.. hocky

Leander is next and late Saturday or Sunday you can ask them what happened....

[ACM Dad]

Covedawg, be sure to say hello. I'll be the tall goofy looking guy in the maroon shirt, camo hat and a huge *** camera hanging off my neck! ;)

The way Waco stadium is, with the field being up close, i"ll be shooting some from the sidelines and a lot from the lower rows of the stands. That's an excellent place to take pictures, especially since very few fans want to sit in the first few rows.



on the Cove/Consol game, my son played right guard all game. He said he came out of it with what he can only assume was close to being a concussion, just from hard htting every single play. It was a freaking war out there. He said it was definitely the toughest game of the year. I walked away from that game so incredibly proud of our team, even though we lost. We showed we had what it took to play well in the big game. That confidence came in handy against Woodlands...

Good luck Cove, take it to them.

[Ailani]

Absolute contender. I think the Dawgs have a chance to go deeper than they've gone before. I think this year is different. In past years, they've never been in a bunch of close games against quality opponents. If they were, they usually came out on the short end. This time they've been in three and game out on top against Judson, Waco and Consol. That experience will go a long way when they get challenged in the playoffs, which will start happening this weekend. When it happened in years past, they didn't have that experience in the season to pull them through. I'm cautiously optimistic, but it looks good for Cove.

[DawgDave]

Cove is a definite contender.
On another post, someone from Leander thought Dawg fans were trash talking and figured this game was a done deal.
I haven't read one trashy post from a Cove fan, and we know Leander is the real deal and it will be a tough game.
But Cove has speed, speed and more speed. The defense, while small up front, is also fast. If they get penetration into Leander's backfield it will be a long night for the Lions.
Good luck to all. I look forward to a good, hard hitting game and a shot to move on.

[rdhnd]

Is this the same team that played Ceder Park last year and was down 28-0 in the first quarter and totally gave up... kind of like the Woodz game?

[Ailani]

Its not the same team. That was the 2004 team, this is the 2005 team. LOL I know people will always judge you by the past, its a part of life. One thing I take issue with is the claim that Cove quit. I don't buy that for a second. But we'll see on Friday. I think the case has been made that this team is different from years past. I guess time will tell.

[CCDawgs05]

Is this the same team that played Ceder Park last year and was down 28-0 in the first quarter and totally gave up... kind of like the Woodz game?

even though it doesnt matter right now, if we would have given up, would the score have been alot worse....w/o 1st Q 7-7...wow....and there is alot of people off that team and they have learned never to take anyone lightly agian.....i say big time contender to cove....

[LeanderLions3033]

I'm sorry but any team that is 11-0 at this time is a contender. From Lufkin, to Copperas Cove, to Richardson Berkner. If you took care of buisness in your district, you are a contender. From the way that game played out it did seem like Cove kinda gave up after the 1st quarter (even though i'm sure they didnt), but it seemed like both teams quit after that. Like CP knew they were gonna win so they just stopped playing, and Cove knew they were gonna lose so they stopped playing. The good thing is that just about everybody on that team is back and they have obviously improved. I hope it warms up a little for the game because i am more of a warm weather person. I havent seen too many (even though i have seen some) Cove fans that think its a done deal and yall will be playing carter next round (i wouldnt even say that game is a done deal), but if you are out there and you do think that you will be sorely mistaken. It will be a good no matter who wins IMO.

[CoveFan05]

Cove is a definite contender.
On another post, someone from Leander thought Dawg fans were trash talking and figured this game was a done deal.
I haven't read one trashy post from a Cove fan, and we know Leander is the real deal and it will be a tough game.
But Cove has speed, speed and more speed. The defense, while small up front, is also fast. If they get penetration into Leander's backfield it will be a long night for the Lions.
Good luck to all. I look forward to a good, hard hitting game and a shot to move on.

Cove really isnt that small up front. Although s. johnson is like 5'4" 160, C. Wood is 6'4" 240 (tight end in college size), J. Porter is like 6' 200 and D. Wilkens-Thomas is like 6' 200. Not real small, but in fact our probably the fastest D-Line in 5A. Everyone runs sub 5 40's. I beleive C.Wood is the slowest at 4.9

[CCDawgs05]

Cove really isnt that small up front. Although s. johnson is like 5'4" 160, C. Wood is 6'4" 240 (tight end in college size), J. Porter is like 6' 200 and D. Wilkens-Thomas is like 6' 200. Not real small, but in fact our probably the fastest D-Line in 5A. Everyone runs sub 5 40's. I beleive C.Wood is the slowest at 4.9

ya....sascha may be small though but he benches 350, squats 500+ and deadlifts 600+....hes a machine....and he runs a 4.6

[leanderdad]

Leander's defensive line is T. Darnell/6'/190/4.7 R. Douglass/6'3"/225/4.7 and
A. Weaver/6'1"/215/4.6

[CoveFan05]

Can Leander's D matchup with the running abilities of Buckram and Garner?

[leanderdad]

Ask Bastrop and Pflugerville. :)

[dawgdude86]

Ask Bastrop and Pflugerville. :)

I doubt they could either. LOL. But since we dont play them we wont know. I guess the question is who does Leander try to stop? BuckRAM, General Garner, FB Billy, Milsap, Hawk, Powell, Armstead, ect. Point is no one has been able to shut the "team" down, you may stop one, and next play is goes to someone else for a long gain.
Good Luck to the Lions. No matter what, it will be a good game.........

[Brant_Scott_76]

ya....sascha may be small though but he benches 350, squats 500+ and deadlifts 600+....hes a machine....and he runs a 4.6

when there is a squat rack or a bench press on the field, haha but yea sascha did pretty awsome agiasnt us good luck to cove this week

[leanderdad]

I doubt they could either. LOL. But since we dont play them we wont know. I guess the question is who does Leander try to stop? BuckRAM, General Garner, FB Billy, Milsap, Hawk, Powell, Armstead, ect. Point is no one has been able to shut the "team" down, you may stop one, and next play is goes to someone else for a long gain.
Good Luck to the Lions. No matter what, it will be a good game.........

Whichever one of them has the ball :) :) :)

[LeanderLions3033]

Im gettin tired of hearing all this about coppers cove. Leander has lost one game all season and it was against their rival, CP came to play while leander was plagued with injuries. Every other game the entire season besides mcneil and cedar park, leander outplayed their opponent entirely. I have a couple of questions as far as cove's defense is concerned. Do yall have 3 DBs with under 4.7 speed and the ability to lock down a WR one on one. I dont think so, because i doubt there is any team in the state with that, and i really doubt that yalls secondary can shut down our passing offense. When it is clicking, its like an offense i haven't seen in high school football. Atleast the past couple years that i've been watching. We dont run the ball well but we have alot of short passes and we have such good WR's we can always break one. I do not know much about cove's team so im not hear to bash them but if you had follow leanders season, i think yall would be a little bit more scared to our team. Its not often that a high school team passes as well as we do. OUR defense really does bend but does not break, we have been able to hold alot of dynamic backs under what they're game avg is. All in all i think leander will be a much more formidable opponent than many of the cove fans think.

[adcwalker]

Cove fans know that the game against Leander will be tough. But your question about Cove's DB's, yes they have three DB's that can match up man on man with most receivers. All run 4.7 or better. They are Powell, Goins, and Leary. You can ask anyone they have played about Cove's DB's and you will hear how tough they are. They hit hard and have often seperated receivers and balls with their hitting. The question to ask is Leanders QB going to get enough time to throw the ball? That is where this game will be won or loss. If Cove's defensive line can get penetration and sack and hurry Leanders QB they will win this game. If Leander is capable of giving the QB time it could go down to the wire. If Cove's offense continues to play like they have the last couple of weeks they will score. If Leanders defense bends, like stated by another poster, Cove's offense will take advantage of it. Cove has a lot of team speed. Speed is something that is deceptive on film. Things are always faster on the field.

I'm looking forward to a good game on Saturday.

[Covedawg]

Im gettin tired of hearing all this about coppers cove. Leander has lost one game all season and it was against their rival, CP came to play while leander was plagued with injuries. Every other game the entire season besides mcneil and cedar park, leander outplayed their opponent entirely. I have a couple of questions as far as cove's defense is concerned. Do yall have 3 DBs with under 4.7 speed and the ability to lock down a WR one on one. I dont think so, because i doubt there is any team in the state with that, and i really doubt that yalls secondary can shut down our passing offense. When it is clicking, its like an offense i haven't seen in high school football. Atleast the past couple years that i've been watching. We dont run the ball well but we have alot of short passes and we have such good WR's we can always break one. I do not know much about cove's team so im not hear to bash them but if you had follow leanders season, i think yall would be a little bit more scared to our team. Its not often that a high school team passes as well as we do. OUR defense really does bend but does not break, we have been able to hold alot of dynamic backs under what they're game avg is. All in all i think leander will be a much more formidable opponent than many of the cove fans think.



Klein Forest had a QB with over 2000 yrds passing coming into the game, Cove's secondary did have to work to hard to stop him, manly because the QB never had time to get off a good pass, the pass rush was all over him all night.......This is gonna be a great game !!! I'm revising my prediction or 35-27 to Cove winning 44-21 !!!

Time now to crank up the talk a little.......

[LeanderLions3033]

i dont see the cove secondary being able to stop the passing attack, playing man to man with our WR's is just asking for a fade and it being a touchdown. Dunn really has a nice touch when the throws the ball. I am worried about the pressure the D-line will get. But i think if we stay disciplined and to our game things will start to open up even if the pressure is there, thats not new to leander. Most teams get good pressure, Dunn just really is very good at making descisions fast and his arm is exceptional, look at the stats. They dont lie. Also our TE and RB are X factors that no one talks about because they have had below avg seasons due to alot of reasons. Like not getting the ball and our o-line not being as good as it has been in the past. They are both extremely good and both can make plays.

[leanderdad]

Alright Cove here are a few stats and 40 times of our wide receivers.
B. Allen- 38 catches,639 yards,4.5 40
C. Gilleylen- 37 catches, 662 yards, 4.4 40
T. Njoku - 32 catches, 442 yards, 4.6 40
J. Tidmore - 23 catches, 307 yards, 4.6 40
This does not include stats against Bastrop. Drew Dunn can read defenses very well(not perfect) but better than any team Cove has faced. Oh, lets not forget J. Barnes(RB) 500+ running yards, 4.4 speed, squats 650 pounds.

Yes it will come down to who controls the line of scrimmage, just like all good games do.

[CoveBullDawgFB]

ive seen your recievers they are not fast. But i will give them credit on catching the ball. They seem to grab everything but wont be able to while covered by the best secondary in the state, You say your running back has 500 + yards we have three players that blows that stat away buckram has 1200 yards. while our QB has more than him at about 800. Whats Up!!!!!

[CoveFan05]

Im gettin tired of hearing all this about coppers cove. Leander has lost one game all season and it was against their rival, CP came to play while leander was plagued with injuries. Every other game the entire season besides mcneil and cedar park, leander outplayed their opponent entirely. I have a couple of questions as far as cove's defense is concerned. Do yall have 3 DBs with under 4.7 speed and the ability to lock down a WR one on one. I dont think so, because i doubt there is any team in the state with that, and i really doubt that yalls secondary can shut down our passing offense. When it is clicking, its like an offense i haven't seen in high school football. Atleast the past couple years that i've been watching. We dont run the ball well but we have alot of short passes and we have such good WR's we can always break one. I do not know much about cove's team so im not hear to bash them but if you had follow leanders season, i think yall would be a little bit more scared to our team. Its not often that a high school team passes as well as we do. OUR defense really does bend but does not break, we have been able to hold alot of dynamic backs under what they're game avg is. All in all i think leander will be a much more formidable opponent than many of the cove fans think.

Ya our DB's can lock down any reciever in the state. Thats why all four of them are D1 players

[insidetrap]

Alright Cove here are a few stats and 40 times of our wide receivers.
B. Allen- 38 catches,639 yards,4.5 40
C. Gilleylen- 37 catches, 662 yards, 4.4 40
T. Njoku - 32 catches, 442 yards, 4.6 40
J. Tidmore - 23 catches, 307 yards, 4.6 40
This does not include stats against Bastrop. Drew Dunn can read defenses very well(not perfect) but better than any team Cove has faced. Oh, lets not forget J. Barnes(RB) 500+ running yards, 4.4 speed, squats 650 pounds.

Yes it will come down to who controls the line of scrimmage, just like all good games do.


Wow with all of that speed you would think that Leander would have a relay at the state track meet, like cove did. Good luck leander, but not this year.

[cc06football1]

Well let me tell you about our DB's

Tim Atchinson 6'2 185 4.5 D-1 all the Way SR
Alphonso Powell 5'10-5'11 180 4.4 D-1 all the Way SR
Mario Gowins 6'0 185 4.5 Junior already hearing from D-1
Joseph Leary 5'11 180 4.5 Junior Last years District 13-5a newcomer of the year. D-1 hear he comes.

Your recievers can be as good as the want, but none of them are as good as Perrish Cox and he didnt do much on the offense side of the ball.

The only kind of 40 time your team needs to worry about is Donald Buckram with 4.32 last year.

[leanderdad]

Thats fast. We will be lucky to score against you. Now i know why Cove is a 2 touchdown favorite. Sorry we do not have any superstars. We surrender. :eek:

[Favpack]

Thats fast. We will be lucky to score against you. Now i know why Cove is a 2 touchdown favorite. Sorry we do not have any superstars. We surrender. :eek:

There's really no reason for Leander to show up with those 40 times of the Dawgs. We all know nothing else matters. Save the gas money Leander. Gimmee a break.

[BleedinBlueNGold]

There's really no reason for Leander to show up with those 40 times of the Dawgs. We all know nothing else matters. Save the gas money Leander. Gimmee a break.

The Leander Dad was the one that posted the 40 times. No one said don't show up. Should be a good game. Rematch from last meeting.

[CoveFan05]

Ya he said that but lets throw some more 40 times at them. Buckram 4.32, Garner 4.6 and Millsap 4.4. Thats the Cove backfield for you

[YuccaRoot]

Cove is a very quick and fast team with big-play capability...offensively, defensively. and on special teams.

[leanderdad]

Cove is a very quick and fast team with big-play capability...offensively, defensively. and on special teams.


What do you think Leander is?

[trooper82d]

BIG Pretender!
Purple Haze are you a Lufkin fan? If so we are no more a pretender than Lufkin. HH is overtime.

[trooper82d]

What do you think Leander is?
A much of whimps for outside of Austin.

[leanderdad]

A much of whimps for outside of Austin.
:) :) :)

[trooper82d]

Alright Cove here are a few stats and 40 times of our wide receivers.
B. Allen- 38 catches,639 yards,4.5 40
C. Gilleylen- 37 catches, 662 yards, 4.4 40
T. Njoku - 32 catches, 442 yards, 4.6 40
J. Tidmore - 23 catches, 307 yards, 4.6 40
This does not include stats against Bastrop. Drew Dunn can read defenses very well(not perfect) but better than any team Cove has faced. Oh, lets not forget J. Barnes(RB) 500+ running yards, 4.4 speed, squats 650 pounds.

Yes it will come down to who controls the line of scrimmage, just like all good games do.
Put the stats in the closet. Who cares what the run times are and how many yards and catches these receivers had. Who is Bastrop? I would be a shame to talk about that sorry team. Our DB's are good and the D line is also good. Look out Leander Kittens your Daddy is coming to down. Make sure all the elderly and kids are in the house when Jack lets the DAWGS out. GO DAWGS GO

[panthergrad]

Purple Haze are you a Lufkin fan? If so we are no more a pretender than Lufkin. HH is overtime.
Trooper82d seems to have a big hang up with Lufkin. Some guy from Lufkin must have run off with his boyfriend. He needs to worry about Leander and Dallas Carter. IF Lufkin and Cove both make it to a game against each other they will both have proved they deserve to be there. That far into the playoffs all the pretenders will be gone.

[leanderdad]

Put the stats in the closet. Who cares what the run times are and how many yards and catches these receivers had. Who is Bastrop? I would be a shame to talk about that sorry team. Our DB's are good and the D line is also good. Look out Leander Kittens your Daddy is coming to down. Make sure all the elderly and kids are in the house when Jack lets the DAWGS out. GO DAWGS GO

are you a player?

[Leander 6136]

are you a player?

Purty sure that guy ain't a player. A couple of Cove players do post here and they are the complete opposite of this guy. While they have confidence that they will win they respect Leanders talent.

[leanderdad]

A much of whimps for outside of Austin.
well im sorry u feel that way......we'll c wut ur talkin when yall r puttin ur pads up and payin to come c us go further and further.........then u can tell every1 how u got stomped by "a MUCH of whimps" ......none of yall can spell by the way ive seen like 15 typos from u cove peeps
once again urs truly
lion player 06

[g-town07]

looks like you got them owls coming at ya now imo
get ready

[ACM Dad]

Okay, Cove, we did our part, now it's your turn to represent 13-5A.

[DawgsFanForLife]

Damn AMC dad, put a little pressure on us, LOL :)

Should be a tough game but i am confident the DAWGS can prevail.

DFFL

[FootballJunkie]

Im gettin tired of hearing all this about coppers cove. Leander has lost one game all season and it was against their rival, CP came to play while leander was plagued with injuries. Every other game the entire season besides mcneil and cedar park, leander outplayed their opponent entirely. I have a couple of questions as far as cove's defense is concerned. Do yall have 3 DBs with under 4.7 speed and the ability to lock down a WR one on one. I dont think so, because i doubt there is any team in the state with that, and i really doubt that yalls secondary can shut down our passing offense. When it is clicking, its like an offense i haven't seen in high school football. Atleast the past couple years that i've been watching. We dont run the ball well but we have alot of short passes and we have such good WR's we can always break one. I do not know much about cove's team so im not hear to bash them but if you had follow leanders season, i think yall would be a little bit more scared to our team. Its not often that a high school team passes as well as we do. OUR defense really does bend but does not break, we have been able to hold alot of dynamic backs under what they're game avg is. All in all i think leander will be a much more formidable opponent than many of the cove fans think.


Anyway...good game Leander and the better team did win.