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Firebird
10-09-2008, 09:43 AM
Fox is reporting the outrage over a 2nd grade teacher telling kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist. It's not news, it's Fox.

chunky79
10-09-2008, 09:47 AM
hahaha awesome

i know this picture isnt about santa being real, but it still makes me laugh
http://lh5.google.co.uk/gmefmax/R_r3w91TLII/AAAAAAAAAZU/HPWXQzoE_lg/s800/SantaGrave.jpg

slorch
10-09-2008, 09:55 AM
Fox is reporting the outrage over a 2nd grade teacher telling kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist. It's not news, it's Fox.

Personal responsibility is what truly has been MIA.

How bout we broach that subject in the schools?
(it's just a theory though;))

Firebird
10-09-2008, 10:31 AM
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Firebird
10-09-2008, 10:33 AM
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slorch
10-09-2008, 10:51 AM
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lame aggie smack is like liberals holding people accountable.

neither concept exists.

That pie chart maker that you discovered this morning must make your day home all worth it...;):D

Firebird
10-09-2008, 10:53 AM
lame aggie smack is like liberals holding people accountable.

neither concept exists.

That pie chart maker that you discovered this morning must make your day home all worth it...;):D


My head is throbbing, I can barely manage a breath, but I love my pie chart maker.

ktCarl
10-09-2008, 10:58 AM
Fox is reporting the outrage over a 2nd grade teacher telling kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist. It's not news, it's Fox.

If you're homesick then come on back home.

That was easy.

slorch
10-09-2008, 11:01 AM
My head is throbbing, I can barely manage a breath, but I love my pie chart maker.

get a helmet, and man-up.

This 5ATF!!!

Ihave had the flu, with heavy emphasis on the body aches( old age, I know) since Monday. today's the first day I have felt good since Sunday.

Hope you get to feeling better.

pied
10-09-2008, 11:01 AM
As a parent of a second grader I'd be pissed. I supect this is the year a class mate fills her in though.

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 11:08 AM
If you ask me, that's part of the problem with the world - no imagination anymore. I believed in Santa AND the tooth fairy. I even thought my dog, Tootsie, had a swollen eye one day because the tooth fairy (mine was a guy by the way:)) hit him with the quarter he brought to me in 1966!!:). I still believe in the spirit of Santa - I know he's not real but the thought and goodness of Santa still exist. My kids all believed until they got to kindergarten - I was like 8 before I found out - my dad was good with the trickery. Except that I thought Santa liked the heck out of beer instead of milk! As for Halloween - that ended for us when the Candy Man (O'Brien) struck - before that, there would be lines at doors for candy - even popcorn balls and home baked stuff - after that psycho - it has never been the same:mad:.

At any rate, this world could use more imagination rather than the cookie cutter, borderless place it has become.

TulsaHale74
10-09-2008, 11:18 AM
If you ask me, that's part of the problem with the world - no imagination anymore. I believed in Santa AND the tooth fairy. I even thought my dog, Tootsie, had a swollen eye one day because the tooth fairy (mine was a guy by the way:)) hit him with the quarter he brought to me in 1966!!:). I still believe in the spirit of Santa - I know he's not real but the thought and goodness of Santa still exist. My kids all believed until they got to kindergarten - I was like 8 before I found out - my dad was good with the trickery. Except that I thought Santa liked the heck out of beer instead of milk! As for Halloween - that ended for us when the Candy Man (O'Brien) struck - before that, there would be lines at doors for candy - even popcorn balls and home baked stuff - after that psycho - it has never been the same:mad:.

At any rate, this world could use more imagination rather than the cookie cutter, borderless place it has become.
What?:confused:

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 11:43 AM
What?:confused:

Excuse me? The piece was about how you can't mention Santa anymore - or let's go a step further, God for that matter. We live in such a society where we aren't allowed to use imagination nor are we supposed to believe in anything other than that being told to us - mainly by the media.

1984 - We've arrived. A world full of robots and non- thinkers. My point was that back in the day, we still were allowed, heck encouraged, to use our imaginations by teachers, adults, etc.

I don't know how old your are - maybe you are one of those internet babies who wouldn't understand to begin with. I'm not being mean - I just know that so many young people just don't get it any more.

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 11:47 AM
I like my imagination. It is a fun place to visit. :D

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 11:51 AM
I like my imagination. It is a fun place to visit. :D

Me too Miss K! Maybe I missed the point of that first post or something. I just thought it was about trying to keep down the Santa!!

chunky79
10-09-2008, 11:55 AM
Excuse me? The piece was about how you can't mention Santa anymore - or let's go a step further, God for that matter. We live in such a society where we aren't allowed to use imagination nor are we supposed to believe in anything other than that being told to us - mainly by the media.

1984 - We've arrived. A world full of robots and non- thinkers. My point was that back in the day, we still were allowed, heck encouraged, to use our imaginations by teachers, adults, etc.

I don't know how old your are - maybe you are one of those internet babies who wouldn't understand to begin with. I'm not being mean - I just know that so many young people just don't get it any more.
it was a joke. as in "what? he's not real?" ya, you fail.

Firebird
10-09-2008, 11:57 AM
Excuse me? The piece was about how you can't mention Santa anymore - or let's go a step further, God for that matter. We live in such a society where we aren't allowed to use imagination nor are we supposed to believe in anything other than that being told to us - mainly by the media.

1984 - We've arrived. A world full of robots and non- thinkers. My point was that back in the day, we still were allowed, heck encouraged, to use our imaginations by teachers, adults, etc.

I don't know how old your are - maybe you are one of those internet babies who wouldn't understand to begin with. I'm not being mean - I just know that so many young people just don't get it any more.

Funny you should mention that. The other part of the uproar was that she told her class that while Santa and the Easter Bunny were fiction, God and Creation were fact.

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 12:10 PM
it was a joke. as in "what? he's not real?" ya, you fail.

Don't get upset chunk....he is real in my house. If you don't believe, you don't receive. :D

TulsaHale74
10-09-2008, 12:19 PM
Excuse me? The piece was about how you can't mention Santa anymore - or let's go a step further, God for that matter. We live in such a society where we aren't allowed to use imagination nor are we supposed to believe in anything other than that being told to us - mainly by the media.

1984 - We've arrived. A world full of robots and non- thinkers. My point was that back in the day, we still were allowed, heck encouraged, to use our imaginations by teachers, adults, etc.

I don't know how old your are - maybe you are one of those internet babies who wouldn't understand to begin with. I'm not being mean - I just know that so many young people just don't get it any more.
Humor.

I was implying that I just learned that Santa wasn't real - thanks to you.

Previous to today, Santa has been part of my life for over 19,000 days.

I get your point. Sorry you didn't get mine. To paraphrase William Hung "you know, I have no professional training of comedy and wit."

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:24 PM
Humor.

I was implying that I just learned that Santa wasn't real - thanks to you.

Previous to today, Santa has been part of my life for over 19,000 days.

I get your point. Sorry you didn't get mine. To paraphrase William Hung "you know, I have no professional training of comedy and wit."

Actually, in retrospect, your post was quite funny!! I think I misunderstood:rolleyes:

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 12:26 PM
As a parent of a second grader I'd be pissed. I supect this is the year a class mate fills her in though.

The freakin teacher is paid to teach...not bring her moralities to the classroom....certainly not a 2nd grade classroom.

She needed to mind her own damn business and let the parents or natural 2nd grade discovery supply the answers for the kids.

TulsaHale74
10-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Actually, in retrospect, your post was quite funny!! I think I misunderstood:rolleyes:
:)

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Funny you should mention that. The other part of the uproar was that she told her class that while Santa and the Easter Bunny were fiction, God and Creation were fact.

Back in the day, in PUBLIC school, we started out with the Pledge of Allegiance, then we sang My Country Tis of Thee and then we had a prayer to start the day. At football games, we had pre-game prayers over the loud speaker. We covered all the bases. Now you have a "moment of silence" that lasts 20 seconds. A "moment" is 60 seconds. If someone didn't want to pray back then, they didn't have to but now it's completely taken away. You see how this world got screwed up!!

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:30 PM
The freakin teacher is paid to teach...not bring her moralities to the classroom....certainly not a 2nd grade classroom.

She needed to mind her own damn business and let the parents or natural 2nd grade discovery supply the answers for the kids.

Agreed - being married to a teacher - they are, many times, babysitters on top of everything else. They are hired to "teach". However, your last part of what you say is what I'm talking about - the parents need to teach them and so many don't do it any more - parenting has become a job, not a passion or a natural part of life. I see everyday that people are using the new law somewhere to abandon their kids - teens even - at hospitals.

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:31 PM
it was a joke. as in "what? he's not real?" ya, you fail.

Oh go back to your tinkertoys and hot wheel set with the action garage.:rolleyes:

pied
10-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Agreed - being married to a teacher - they are, many times, babysitters on top of everything else. They are hired to "teach". However, your last part it what I'm talking about - the parents need to teach them and so many don't do it any more - parenting has become a job, not a passion or a natural part of life. I see everyday that people are using the new law somewhere to abandon their kids - teens even - at hospitals.

Kind of funny, on one hand we want them "to teach" and on the other we want God in the classroom:

Back in the day, in PUBLIC school, we started out with the Pledge of Allegiance, then we sang My Country Tis of Thee and then we had a prayer to start the day. At football games, we had pre-game prayers over the loud speaker. We covered all the bases. Now you have a "moment of silence" that lasts 20 seconds. A "moment" is 60 seconds. If someone didn't want to pray back then, they didn't have to but now it's completely taken away. You see how this world got screwed up!!

Firebird
10-09-2008, 12:33 PM
So we don't want our teachers telling kids the truth?

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 12:36 PM
The freakin teacher is paid to teach...not bring her moralities to the classroom....certainly not a 2nd grade classroom.

She needed to mind her own damn business and let the parents or natural 2nd grade discovery supply the answers for the kids.

AMEN!!!

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 12:38 PM
So we don't want our teachers telling kids the truth?

what truth exatly?

Firebird
10-09-2008, 12:40 PM
what truth exatly?

Well, she told the kids that although God was real and created the world, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were fun stories. I reckon that if I polled this site, most of us would agree with that statement if we were being honest with ourselves.:)

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:41 PM
So we don't want our teachers telling kids the truth?

When it comes to something like religion - what is the truth? Do you think a Catholic would agree 100% with a Jew or with a Muslim? Everyone has their own "truth" and that is why that sort of thing should fall on the family.

However, I do think that if an organization wants to offer prayer as part of its meetings/festivities, etc, it should be offered - Muslim, Jewish, protestant, all religions. - someone doesn't want to join in, they don't. Taking that sort of thing completely out of the equation just seems wrong.

It should not fall on an individual teacher though to teach right from wrong or morals nor should they take it upon themselves...they can suggest as many do but they shouldn't teach it. It's simply not what they are hired for.

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:41 PM
Well, she told the kids that although God was real and created the world, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were fun stories. I reckon that if I polled this site, most of us would agree with that statement if we were being honest with ourselves.:)

Some out there are raised to believe Darwin though.

Firebird
10-09-2008, 12:43 PM
When it comes to something like religion - what is the truth? Do you think a Catholic would agree 100% with a Jew or with a Muslim? Everyone has their own "truth" and that is why that sort of thing should fall on the family.
However, I do think that if an organization wants to offer prayer as part of its meetings/festivities, etc, it should be offered - Muslim, Jewish, protestant, all religions. - someone doesn't want to join in, they don't. Taking that sort of thing completely out of the equation just seems wrong.

It should not fall on an individual teacher though to teach right from wrong or morals nor should they take it upon themselves...they can suggest as many do but they shouldn't teach it. It's simply not what they are hired for.

I think that the existence or non-existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny is pretty well settled. Not too many versions of "truth" when it comes to that. But that's just me.

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:43 PM
Kind of funny, on one hand we want them "to teach" and on the other we want God in the classroom:

I think it should be an "option" that is offered, not only in schools but all over. The option is quickly being taken away and it is even seen as evil in many quarters. NO, a teacher, unless they are a religious teacher, should not be teaching these things - but why not let the kids have a silent prayer in the morning if they are so inclined?

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 12:44 PM
I think that the existence or non-existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny is pretty well settled. Not too many versions of "truth" when it comes to that. But that's just me.


I wasn't talking about Santa.;)

Firebird
10-09-2008, 12:44 PM
I think it should be an "option" that is offered, not only in schools but all over. The option is quickly being taken away and it is even seen as evil in many quarters. NO, a teacher, unless they are a religious teacher, should not be teaching these things - but why not let the kids have a silent prayer in the morning if they are so inclined?

If a kid is inclined, I don't think anyone would put a stop to his silent prayer. Who is taking that option away from you?

Firebird
10-09-2008, 12:47 PM
The freakin teacher is paid to teach...not bring her moralities to the classroom....certainly not a 2nd grade classroom.

She needed to mind her own damn business and let the parents or natural 2nd grade discovery supply the answers for the kids.

What morality is involved in addressing a mass delusion held by children all over the nation? How is it not teaching to correct false ideas?

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 12:50 PM
Well, she told the kids that although God was real and created the world, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were fun stories. I reckon that if I polled this site, most of us would agree with that statement if we were being honest with ourselves.:)

I agree with it. But, some teachers have enough trouble teaching the truth when it comes to school subjects. They need to leave Santa alone. :) When my daughter was in 4th grade she got a bad for doing a presentation that was a point-counter point to the teachers subject choice which was evolution. She simply stated that while some believe in evolution, she believes the Bible and the Bible says that God created man in his own image. Then she went on with her presentation, including everything the teacher was trying to teach them, and each time stating what she (my daughter) believed. The teacher's "truth" was different than my daughter's "truth" yet she had no problem giving her a D on her presentation. I was pissed and went to the school.

If I had a second grader in that class, I would be pissed and I would go to the school.

If they want truth, they need to worry about teaching the facts of history and forget the PC crap. TEACHERS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! :D

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 12:56 PM
What morality is involved in addressing a mass delusion held by children all over the nation? How is it not teaching to correct false ideas?

The truth is, there was a St. Nicholas who came to be known as Santa Claus. His works were much like that of the Santa we know today, in that he was a giver of gifts, but minus a few details like flying deer. :) But did she bother to go into that and deliver that part of the truth?

Pinion
10-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Back in the day, in PUBLIC school, we started out with the Pledge of Allegiance, then we sang My Country Tis of Thee and then we had a prayer to start the day. At football games, we had pre-game prayers over the loud speaker. We covered all the bases. Now you have a "moment of silence" that lasts 20 seconds. A "moment" is 60 seconds. If someone didn't want to pray back then, they didn't have to but now it's completely taken away. You see how this world got screwed up!!

Back in the day we heard about someone that didnt have their head bowed during the prayer, they got their a:Censor:s kicked later on by their peers. But we were at a private school and could get away with it. :D

pied
10-09-2008, 01:01 PM
What morality is involved in addressing a mass delusion held by children all over the nation? How is it not teaching to correct false ideas?

You are correct.

That being said, if my second grader's teacher tells her he is not real, I'll fire her.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:02 PM
So we don't want our teachers telling kids the truth?

Teaching the three R's and other approved curriculum....the existance of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, etc., is not approved curriculum.......go have a baby and see how you feel or shut the hell up and quit instigating........:mad:

This "I'm 25 years old I've got all the answers, you stupid old people" thing....real or kidding....is getting old.

Get back to talking about things you have life experience about...living in foreign countries and knowing which way the dogs are buried....:mad:

Firebird
10-09-2008, 01:04 PM
The truth is, there was a St. Nicholas who came to be known as Santa Claus. His works were much like that of the Santa we know today, in that he was a giver of gifts, but minus a few details like flying deer. :) But did she bother to go into that and deliver that part of the truth?

1. Saint sound pretty Catholic to me, and we don't cotton to Catholics on this site.

2. I'm not sure I want my second grader hearing about young girls being delivered from a future life of prostitution thanks to sacks of gold so they could have a dowry. A little age inappropriate.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:06 PM
I think that the existence or non-existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny is pretty well settled. Not too many versions of "truth" when it comes to that. But that's just me.

Sorry if the little Birdie was robbed of his childhood by someone....bad old person.

You're 25, or 26, whatever......the kids are 7.....we expect you to have a grasp of Santa Claus......butt out on the kids...who the hell do you think you are.....:mad:

ktCarl
10-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Well, she told the kids that although God was real and created the world, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny were fun stories. I reckon that if I polled this site, most of us would agree with that statement if we were being honest with ourselves.:)

I still believe in the Easter Bunny.

Pinion
10-09-2008, 01:09 PM
I see this discussion is going to get out of hand pretty soon. Ima say it'll be a locked thread by 8pm tonite. It's just after 1 now. :eek:

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 01:12 PM
1. Saint sound pretty Catholic to me, and we don't cotton to Catholics on this site.

2. I'm not sure I want my second grader hearing about young girls being delivered from a future life of prostitution thanks to sacks of gold so they could have a dowry. A little age inappropriate.

Ahhhh, but it is truth, yes? So now it okay for to choose which truth to teach and which not to teach? When before it wasn't.

You see, while you wouldn't want your second grader to learn that, many other's don't want their second grader to give up the idea of Santa Claus. I mean it is also true that we don't see to many snowmen down in South/Southeast Texas but they still hang pictures of them in the classrooms. :D Funny how we didn't have these issuse when I was in second grade. You colored your pictures of santa, and pumpkins, and it was just someting your mom acted like she loved and hung on the frig. Now it is some moral issue or religious issue or whatever if you do these simple little childhood things. Sad, sad, sad.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:12 PM
I see this discussion is going to get out of hand pretty soon. Ima say it'll be a locked thread by 8pm tonite. It's just after 1 now. :eek:

Let 'em lock it.....he'll just go be an elitist on another thread.

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 01:14 PM
I still believe in the Easter Bunny.

No, no, no, you are thinking about Playboy Bunnies, KC. Different than the easter bunny. :D

Firebird
10-09-2008, 01:15 PM
Ahhhh, but it is truth, yes? So now it okay for to choose which truth to teach and which not to teach? When before it wasn't.

You see, while you wouldn't want your second grader to learn that, many other's don't want their second grader to give up the idea of Santa Claus. I mean it is also true that we don't see to many snowmen down in South/Southeast Texas but they still hang pictures of them in the classrooms. :D Funny how we didn't have these issuse when I was in second grade. You colored your pictures of santa, and pumpkins, and it was just someting your mom acted like she loved and hung on the frig. Now it is some moral issue or religious issue or whatever if you do these simple little childhood things. Sad, sad, sad.

If many others didn't want their kids to learn that the earth orbited the sun, would we need to discipline a teacher that taught that, too?

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:16 PM
If the public scholls are going to insist on teaching my kids THEIRvalues instead of the curriculum that they are mandated to teach, then give me a voucher for my tax dollars spent and let me put my kid in a school that won't impose their ideals on my kids....unless I chose those ideals to be imposed.

Pinion
10-09-2008, 01:17 PM
If the public scholls are going to insist on teaching my kids THEIRvalues instead of the curriculum that they are mandated to teach, then give me a voucher for my tax dollars spent and let me put my kid in a school that won't impose their ideals on my kids....unless I chose those ideals to be imposed.

Private school. or home school. those are you 2 options.

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 01:18 PM
If many others didn't want their kids to learn that the earth orbited the sun, would we need to discipline a teacher that taught that, too?

And what does that have to do with Santa Claus?

Firebird
10-09-2008, 01:22 PM
And what does that have to do with Santa Claus?

Both are beliefs that at one time or another are/were taught as truth. Both are not true. :)

C'mon, Kitty. You're being too rational here. I'm hoping to get more responses like GoOwls'.;)

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 01:24 PM
Both are beliefs that at one time or another are/were taught as truth. Both are not true. :)

C'mon, Kitty. You're being too rational here. I'm hoping to get more responses like GoOwls'.;)

It's Thursday. I am much more irrational on Fridays. :D

KatySwarm
10-09-2008, 01:26 PM
Both are beliefs that at one time or another are/were taught as truth. Both are not true. :)

C'mon, Kitty. You're being too rational here. I'm hoping to get more responses like GoOwls'.;)

You're such an elitist.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:27 PM
Private school. or home school. those are you 2 options.

Then the ISD needs to quit taxing me....taxation without representation

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:31 PM
You're such an elitist.

Swarm this....:D

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 01:32 PM
Bottom line for me, this teacher needs to teach the three R's and not about Santa. Teachers have it rough I know, because they have to babysit, but I am so tired of having to teach my child the three R's when she gets home because the teacher has not had time in class to teach. One because they spend less time in each class, two because the little bratty kids who need to be yanked out of class get all of the teacher's attention. So knowing this, why is a teacher using precious academic time talking about Santa Claus?

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:34 PM
Bottom line for me, this teacher needs to teach the three R's and not about Santa. Teachers have it rough I know, because they have to babysit, but I am so tired of having to teach my child the three R's when she gets home because the teacher has not had time in class to teach. One because they spend less time in each class, two because the little bratty kids who need to be yanked out of class get all of the teacher's attention. So knowing this, why is a teacher using precious academic time talking about Santa Claus?

From someone here to another who has actually raised kids, 6 in my case......

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

Pinion
10-09-2008, 01:34 PM
Then the ISD needs to quit taxing me....taxation without representation

That, I agree with. 100%. If I send my kids to a non-public school, I should not have to pay taxes that support (directly) a public school.

Taxation without representation comment is spot on. :notworthy

Lights Out
10-09-2008, 01:35 PM
From someone here to another who has actually raised kids, 6 in my case......

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

Someone didn't know what a condom was. :eek::ninja:

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 01:43 PM
Someone didn't know what a condom was. :eek::ninja:


I bet you know what one is....:eek: ;) :D

pied
10-09-2008, 01:43 PM
That, I agree with. 100%. If I send my kids to a non-public school, I should not have to pay taxes that support (directly) a public school.

Taxation without representation comment is spot on. :notworthy

It's hardly wthout representation, it may be without attendance, but certainly you can vote in every school board election, right? That's kind of your representation. You can also attend any school board meeting.

That would be a fun question to ask. How many of us on here have attended their kids school board meetings or can name the baord? We seem to have a lot of hot opinions regarding them, but I want to know how many have done something.

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 01:55 PM
Bottom line for me, this teacher needs to teach the three R's and not about Santa. Teachers have it rough I know, because they have to babysit, but I am so tired of having to teach my child the three R's when she gets home because the teacher has not had time in class to teach. One because they spend less time in each class, two because the little bratty kids who need to be yanked out of class get all of the teacher's attention. So knowing this, why is a teacher using precious academic time talking about Santa Claus?

OMG, I so agree with you! I'm glad we are past all that "reteaching" that we had to do just about every night. One of my daughter's teachers got a headache all the time and she would just shut down. Another one told jokes the entire class period. Amazing. I'm married to a teacher who does just that - he teaches.

Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 02:12 PM
It's hardly wthout representation, it may be without attendance, but certainly you can vote in every school board election, right? That's kind of your representation. You can also attend any school board meeting.

That would be a fun question to ask. How many of us on here have attended their kids school board meetings or can name the baord? We seem to have a lot of hot opinions regarding them, but I want to know how many have done something.


Me and I am giving some serious thought to running for our school board.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 02:13 PM
It's hardly wthout representation, it may be without attendance, but certainly you can vote in every school board election, right? That's kind of your representation. You can also attend any school board meeting.

That would be a fun question to ask. How many of us on here have attended their kids school board meetings or can name the baord? We seem to have a lot of hot opinions regarding them, but I want to know how many have done something.

If I live in an ISD and they change the rules on me years later, then my one vote don't mean diddly, and in effect, I have no representation.

Teach the kids approved curriculum or give me my money back to spend as I wish.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 02:18 PM
OMG, I so agree with you! I'm glad we are past all that "reteaching" that we had to do just about every night. One of my daughter's teachers got a headache all the time and she would just shut down. Another one told jokes the entire class period. Amazing. I'm married to a teacher who does just that - he teaches.

My G-daughter in 2nd grade brought home her math homework a few weeks back......it was totally incomprehensible how they are teaching kids math now.

I'm no dummy and good in math and my wife is an accountant...and we just looked at the paper and sent it back to the teacher with question marks on it.

We went to the "meet the teacher night" about a week ago and the teacher said they don't get it either....they just told the kids to leave it blank......:mad:

Give me my money back so I can get my kid a decent education.....:mad:

Favpack
10-09-2008, 02:19 PM
how about a jtk pie chart - or a pied pie chart?

pied
10-09-2008, 02:21 PM
If I live in an ISD and they change the rules on me years later, then my one vote don't mean diddly, and in effect, I have no representation.

Teach the kids approved curriculum or give me my money back to spend as I wish.

So that would be a no?

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 02:21 PM
how about a jtk pie chart - or a pied pie chart?

As long as they stick it in the "pie hole"....:D

pied
10-09-2008, 02:22 PM
I was at the Fair yesterday. Are you talking about a Fried Pie chart?

If so, I'm all in.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 02:36 PM
I was at the Fair yesterday. Are you talking about a Fried Pie chart?

If so, I'm all in.

What fried stuff did you try?

What of it was good?

What of it was bad?

What fried stuff did you not try but looked good?

What fried stuff did you not try because it looked bad?

I don't know if they had it at the Fair, but I really like fried green beans with ranch dressing.

CyFallsMom
10-09-2008, 02:59 PM
My G-daughter in 2nd grade brought home her math homework a few weeks back......it was totally incomprehensible how they are teaching kids math now.

I'm no dummy and good in math and my wife is an accountant...and we just looked at the paper and sent it back to the teacher with question marks on it.

We went to the "meet the teacher night" about a week ago and the teacher said they don't get it either....they just told the kids to leave it blank......:mad:

Give me my money back so I can get my kid a decent education.....:mad:

I know - it's ridiculous not only WHAT they teach but HOW they teach...especially math teachers. Even at the college level...and I, too am good at math and I just get stumped on some of these things. A few times I would show them how to do it easier (i.e. the way we did it back then - same problems) and then they would take the test using my methods, get the correct answer and be taken off for the method that was used.

pied
10-09-2008, 03:02 PM
What fried stuff did you try?-Fried Green Tomatoes(Gloria Campos was right in front of me and scored a free water), Chicken Fried Bacon, Fried S'more

What of it was good?-Fried Green Tomatoes are a staple and awesome every year, the S'more was good, but really hard to tell it was a S'more

What of it was bad?-The bacon was ok, not bad but I wouldn't get it again.

What fried stuff did you not try but looked good?-Fried Strawberry waffle balls

What fried stuff did you not try because it looked bad?-Wasn't fried, but the SPAM quesadilla seems revolting

I don't know if they had it at the Fair, but I really like fried green beans with ranch dressing.


I added some red beans and rice. That crap is way expensive, and really pretty crappy. It's fun though.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 03:17 PM
Speaking of home watching Fox News, it was fun entertainment watching the market crash yet another day........Dow 550 down, 600 down, 650 down, 675 down.....all in a matter of minutes...below 8700

The S&P headed below 900.....I got out at 1530 almost a year ago today....lucky me.....;)

DrEdward
10-09-2008, 03:41 PM
I don't know about most of you, but I am just stunned to hear about Santa and the Easter Bunny. :rolleyes: And leave the little kids alone.

chunky79
10-09-2008, 04:40 PM
whah whah whah whaaaaaaaah
go tend to your garden

mad_fan
10-09-2008, 06:51 PM
Fox is reporting the outrage over a 2nd grade teacher telling kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist. It's not news, it's Fox.

There must have been a soap or something on at 9:30...
Don't you get the History Channel???

Pinion
10-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Oddly enough, my phone rang just now. I answer it and pull up the given information. The guy was calling from NorthPole. Swear to gawd.

slorch
10-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Back in the day, in PUBLIC school, we started out with the Pledge of Allegiance, then we sang My Country Tis of Thee and then we had a prayer to start the day. At football games, we had pre-game prayers over the loud speaker. We covered all the bases. Now you have a "moment of silence" that lasts 20 seconds. A "moment" is 60 seconds. If someone didn't want to pray back then, they didn't have to but now it's completely taken away. You see how this world got screwed up!!

then the wheel was invented and it was all downhill from there...:D;)

Jesus is Lord!

slorch
10-09-2008, 07:12 PM
So we don't want our teachers telling kids the truth?

we differ on what the truth is on certain subjects, remember?

Slim-Rob
10-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Teaching the three R's and other approved curriculum....the existance of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, etc., is not approved curriculum.......go have a baby and see how you feel or shut the hell up and quit instigating........:mad:

This "I'm 25 years old I've got all the answers, you stupid old people" thing....real or kidding....is getting old.

Get back to talking about things you have life experience about...living in foreign countries and knowing which way the dogs are buried....:mad:

Reese's Really Rocks?

Firebird
10-09-2008, 09:00 PM
we differ on what the truth is on certain subjects, remember?

I'm sorry, but a tenet of my Christian belief is that absolute truth does exist. Sorry that's not a tenet of yours, that must be rough.

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 09:09 PM
Reese's Really Rocks?

I see you went to "modern" public schools.....:D

Slim-Rob
10-09-2008, 09:10 PM
I see you went to "modern" public schools.....:D

i don't think u saw my reeses thread

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 09:11 PM
I'm sorry, but a tenet of my Christian belief is that absolute truth does exist. Sorry that's not a tenet of yours, that must be rough.

Your definitions of absolute truth differ...nothing new...been going on for about 2000 years......;)

slorch
10-09-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm sorry, but a tenet of my Christian belief is that absolute truth does exist. Sorry that's not a tenet of yours, that must be rough.

then you are not a Christian. thanks for playing.

jakerz
10-09-2008, 09:15 PM
If you ask me, that's part of the problem with the world - no imagination anymore.

Couldn't have said it any better...the imagination is looked down upon these days. "Focus on the real world"...F' That I think both worlds deserve an equal amount of attention.
+1

jakerz
10-09-2008, 09:16 PM
Someone please tell me something that is absolutely true with proof please

slorch
10-09-2008, 09:18 PM
Someone please tell me something that is absolutely true with proof please

just going by a couple posts I've read...

OU sucks?


(did I say it right?):confused::o:)

GoOwls
10-09-2008, 09:30 PM
i don't think u saw my reeses thread

Got it now.....doesn't matter though...based on your body of work, I can tell you went to "modern" public schools.....:D