View Full Version : Adam "Pacman" Jones
chunky79
10-08-2008, 10:06 PM
is he an idiot? he gets a second, or third chance and he is blowing it yet again. my God, seriously.
info here
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3633432
Texasfrog
10-08-2008, 11:28 PM
You cant take the "I" out of Idiot or the "T" out of Thug.
This guy is a walking time-bomb. If it wasnt for Pro Football he would be in prison somewhere. That I'm 100% sure about.
Maroondog
10-09-2008, 09:23 AM
The NFL criminal element rears its ugly head again.
slorch
10-09-2008, 09:57 AM
If I had 4 babysitters... umm, company appointed body guards, I'd probably tire of them before 5 weeks went by.
I respect PacMan Jones as much as I ever have...
Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 10:16 AM
How stupid!! Why would anyone pick a fight with a bodyguard. :eek::confused:
Favpack
10-09-2008, 10:18 AM
Jerry deserves what he get.
SLC93
10-09-2008, 10:22 AM
If I had 4 babysitters... umm, company appointed body guards, I'd probably tire of them before 5 weeks went by.
I respect PacMan Jones as much as I ever have...
Nice.:D
DragonFan0316
10-09-2008, 10:25 AM
You cant take the "I" out of Idiot or the "T" out of Thug.
This guy is a walking time-bomb. If it wasnt for Pro Football he would be in prison somewhere. That I'm 100% sure about.
Roger that. He is a criminal and sooner or later he will end up in Jail. Ask Travis Henry( dumb :Censor:)
SLC93
10-09-2008, 10:42 AM
For the record, Adam is an idiot. Not many have ever argued that. Most would also agree, he is also an inmate waiting for assignment. For the time being, however, he is a free man and eligible to play in the NFL. These days the morality required to be either doesn't add up to much but the fact remains he is a gifted athlete. We gave up nothing to get him. We'll use him up for as long as he can manage to be allowed in the game and/or society. Then we'll cut him loose and move on. Spare me the mantras about image and chemistry, ect..ect..This is professional sports and it is an ugly, predatory machine. My biggest concern is the health of TNew.(love him but I tried to tell ya to avoid that big payday for a 30 year old cb) Were that not an issue, this really becomes a who cares. Worst case, Pac is gone and were left with Jenkins & Scandrick as our 2 & 3 cb's. That definitely isn't ideal but it's still an upgrade from Reeves and N Jones last season. I trust Campo's ability to teach the young guys. As far as chemistry goes, he's never had problems when he's at the facility or in the locker room or on the field. All of his team mates get along with him. The dude just hasn't got much going on between the ears and he's got some demons on top of that. He isn't the first like this to waste untold millions and he won't be the last.
Nothing wrong with going to the scrip club.....he was just being rebellion.
SLC93
10-09-2008, 10:43 AM
Much ado about nothing.
Exactly.
DragonFan0316
10-09-2008, 10:49 AM
For the record, Adam is an idiot. Not many have ever argued that. Most would also agree, he is also an inmate waiting for assignment. For the time being, however, he is a free man and eligible to play in the NFL. These days the morality required to be either doesn't add up to much but the fact remains he is a gifted athlete. We gave up nothing to get him. We'll use him up for as long as he can manage to be allowed in the game and/or society. Then we'll cut him loose and move on. Spare me the mantras about image and chemistry, ect..ect..This is professional sports and it is an ugly, predatory machine. My biggest concern is the health of TNew.(love him but I tried to tell ya to avoid that big payday for a 30 year old cb) Were that not an issue, this really becomes a who cares. Worst case, Pac is gone and were left with Jenkins & Scandrick as our 2 & 3 cb's. That definitely isn't ideal but it's still an upgrade from Reeves and N Jones last season. I trust Campo's ability to teach the young guys. As far as chemistry goes, he's never had problems when he's at the facility or in the locker room or on the field. All of his team mates get along with him. The dude just hasn't got much going on between the ears and he's got some demons on top of that. He isn't the first like this to waste untold millions and he won't be the last.
Pac has been warned. I just hate to see guys given 1 or 2 new changes and watch them blow it. He was told if he wants to play football... no trouble. Time for a lifetime ban and let him begin his new career. Making license plates.
"Someone from the business called police," Dallas police spokesman Cpl. Jerry Monreal told The Associated Press. "Police arrived and spoke to the parties after they had a verbal argument. Both parties agreed to leave, and they left."
Dang... sounds pretty intense... shouting and everything I'm guessing...
chunky79
10-09-2008, 11:29 AM
Dang... sounds pretty intense... shouting and everything I'm guessing...
there's allegations that they damaged a hotel bathroom
there's allegations that they damaged a hotel bathroom
Haven't seen any allegations of the sort from NFL.com, ESPN, or CBS and frankly even if I did it would be pretty much irrelevant... who cares if he "damaged" a bathroom.
chunky79
10-09-2008, 11:53 AM
Haven't seen any allegations of the sort from NFL.com, ESPN, or CBS and frankly even if I did it would be pretty much irrelevant... who cares if he "damaged" a bathroom.
im just saying what i heard from sportscenter
Miss Kitty
10-09-2008, 12:08 PM
Haven't seen any allegations of the sort from NFL.com, ESPN, or CBS and frankly even if I did it would be pretty much irrelevant... who cares if he "damaged" a bathroom.
The person who owns the bathroom I would imagine. :D
GoOwls
10-09-2008, 12:21 PM
no charges filed....
no blood no foul.....
Play on.....no big deal.
Boys will be boys.
there's allegations that they damaged a hotel bathroom
You know how many hotel bathrooms I have destroyed during Spring Break.....doesn't make me a criminal.Just means that I had an extra 500-1000 dollars to pay on it...I'm sure Pacman can handle the extra expense of messing up a bathroom.
no charges filed....
no blood no foul.....
Play on.....no big deal.
Boys will be boys.
No charges....but let's see if The Commish sticks to his Zero Tolerance message....especially with pacman.
GoOwls
10-09-2008, 02:05 PM
No charges....but let's see if The Commish sticks to his Zero Tolerance message....especially with pacman.
Depends on what happened....we don't know the details.....maybe he was in some way justified....who knows.....we'll see.
Depends on what happened....we don't know the details.....maybe he was in some way justified....who knows.....we'll see.
According to the Jim Rome show.......Pacman said a few weeks ago that he was "Tired" of being babysat.....allegedly...since he can't go to the SCRIP club.....he decied to bring the SCRIP club to the hotel......the Babysitters that are paid by the Cowboys to keep the child...errrrr....pacman in line thought that he was in "Violation" of the "pacman rules" and pac got pissed.
Favpack
10-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Pacman is getting his "keeping it low" mentoring from OJ.
DrEdward
10-09-2008, 02:46 PM
Jerry Jones bailed this idiot out when virtually no one else in the NFL cared about him at all. All Jones asked of him was to play solid defense and to keep a low profile and to avoid negative publicity. That is not a whole lot to ask of a responsible adult being paid an NFL salary. Yet, how does this tower of responsibility respond? Gets into a fight with his bodyguard whom Jerry is paying to babysit him. In and of itself, this is not a big deal, but it is one more event in pacman's illustrious history following his stint in wvu. So what happens the next time around and who doubts there will be a next time for pac man and that it may be much more serious? Just when the Cowboys will be facing a big game, this idiot will go pull some other stunt and leave a gaping hole in the secondary. Jerry, prepare yourself and be on the lookout for a replacement now.
SLC93
10-09-2008, 03:58 PM
You know how many hotel bathrooms I have destroyed during Spring Break.....doesn't make me a criminal.Just means that I had an extra 500-1000 dollars to pay on it...I'm sure Pacman can handle the extra expense of messing up a bathroom.
Forget spring break. I destroy the bathroom at work every morning around 8:30.:eek::D
chunky79
10-09-2008, 04:38 PM
a vanity mirror was damaged. but he didnt violate his contract, so the cowboys arent punishing him and they are letting him play
info here
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3634226
DragonFan0316
10-09-2008, 04:47 PM
I love you guys but someone is missing the point. He is on tight probation. He should have considered himself so lucky to be back that he never comes close to this type of situation. He acts like a moron. I am sure he is not but he sure acts like one.
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-09-2008, 09:38 PM
They are saying that Pacman, his fiancee, and Roy Williams were at a listening party for Ludacris' upcoming album. The two men had a disagreement, and there was pushing and shoving involved...nothing more. Police questioned the bodyguard, and Pac, and both men said that everything was basically cool. The hotel was asked if they wanted to press charges, and they said no.
Now, what I don't get, is the conflicting times that they say Pac left. Some say 1:30 AM, and witnesses, including a police officer, state that Pac had left the party at 11:00 PM.:confused:
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-09-2008, 09:40 PM
Forget spring break. I destroy the bathroom at work every morning around 8:30.:eek::D
WOW...now that's wrong!:D
Forget spring break. I destroy the bathroom at work every morning around 8:30.:eek::D
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
SLC93
10-09-2008, 10:36 PM
WOW...now that's wrong!:D
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
What? I'm just a regular guy.:D
GoOwls
10-10-2008, 02:55 AM
I love you guys but someone is missing the point. He is on tight probation. He should have considered himself so lucky to be back that he never comes close to this type of situation. He acts like a moron. I am sure he is not but he sure acts like one.
but he's our moron.......
Good luck Sunday, Pac.....if you last that long.....;)
slorch
10-10-2008, 08:11 AM
isn't "vanity mirror" redundant? even in Dallas?
Go Cowboys!
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-10-2008, 08:18 AM
What? I'm just a regular guy.:D
I can't lie, I'm guilty of "wreckin'" the bathroom at work also but, I don't have a set time like you do. LOL!
I guess somebody has to be the Al Bundy of 5atexasfootball.com.
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-10-2008, 08:22 AM
isn't "vanity mirror" redundant? even in Dallas?
Go Cowboys!
Hell, I know Pac's an idiot also but, looks like this one is blown out of proportion.
They are saying that Pacman, his fiancee, and Roy Williams were at a listening party for Ludacris' upcoming album. The two men had a disagreement, and there was pushing and shoving involved...nothing more. Police questioned the bodyguard, and Pac, and both men said that everything was basically cool. The hotel was asked if they wanted to press charges, and they said no.
Now, what I don't get, is the conflicting times that they say Pac left. Some say 1:30 AM, and witnesses, including a police officer, state that Pac had left the party at 11:00 PM.:confused:
Pretty sure DPD are Cowboys fans.....they were like "Come on dude....we need you Sunday........I aint seen nothing.......what about yall?.....nope...lets go"
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-10-2008, 08:45 AM
Pretty sure DPD are Cowboys fans.....they were like "Come on dude....we need you Sunday........I aint seen nothing.......what about yall?.....nope...lets go"
:D
SLC93
10-10-2008, 09:27 AM
Hell, I know Pac's an idiot also but, looks like this one is blown out of proportion.
I agree and I'll take it a few steps further. Let me state, upfront, this in not a defense of Jones. It is a total indictment on the media. Make no mistake, most journalists, especially sports journalists, are about three rungs down the ladder from the ambulance chasing lawyer. There were times yesterday, as I listened to or watched coverage of these events, I was offended or flat pissed of by questions and comments levied at the Cowboys. The sense of entitlement that these guys condemn the athletes for having is only surpassed by their very own. The questioning at Wade's conference was some of the most juvenile and immature audio I've ever been privy to hear. He's a much better man than I. I would've gone off like a Parcell/Knight love child coming down from a three day crack binge. Remember, I feel this way and I don't give a sheet about Pacman. Nor do I delude myself into thinking that all of this isn't, ultimately, his own fault. The media is going to drive this kind of stuff because they no longer answer to anyone. There are no fewer than 4 local journalists I would have laid waste to. Similar to that first summer with TO. There just wasn't anything to report on him but man did we have stories everyday. This kind of thing happens when a person has a history, I understand, but if I wanted a history lesson I'd go to the library. I pick up a paper for current events, verified and true happenings. This is not news, even given his history. It's a product of a carniverous media that convinces themselves there is blood in the water at the drop of a hat. It's reckless and needs to stop.
SLC93
10-10-2008, 09:28 AM
Pretty sure DPD are Cowboys fans.....they were like "Come on dude....we need you Sunday........I aint seen nothing.......what about yall?.....nope...lets go"
I thought the support of your community was crucial to the success of a sports franchise. No?:D
slorch
10-10-2008, 09:36 AM
Hell, I know Pac's an idiot also but, looks like this one is blown out of proportion.
How many fights have you been in while in a public place as an adult?
zero for me. I don't think it's being blown out of proportion if they damaged the bathroom. Have we becomed so calloused to just write it off as "blowing off a little steam"
The sad thing is that his other behavior has been so extremely outlandish, that we as society are willing to let real infractions like these just slide.
A fight in a restroom is still unnacceptable, and if I did so with one of my co-workers, I'd be unemployed today.
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-10-2008, 10:37 AM
I agree and I'll take it a few steps further. Let me state, upfront, this in not a defense of Jones. It is a total indictment on the media. Make no mistake, most journalist, especially sports journalist, are about three rungs down the ladder from the ambulance chasing lawyer. There were times yesterday, as I listened to or watched coverage of these event, I was offended or flat pissed of by questions and comments levied at the Cowboys. The sense of entitlement that these guys condemn the athletes for having is only surpassed by their vey own. The questioning at Wade's conference was some of the most juvenile and immature audio I've ever been privy to hear. He's a much better man than I. I would've gone off like a Parcell/Knight love child coming down from a three day crack binge. Remember, I feel this way and I don't give a sheet about Pacman. Nor do I delude myself into thinking that all of this is, ultimately, his own fault. The media is going to drive this kind of stuff because they no longer answer to anyone. There are no fewer than 4 local journalists I would have laid waste to. Similar to that first summer with TO. There just wasn't anything to report on him but man did we have stories everyday. This kind of thing happens when a person has a history, I understand, but if I wanted a history lesson I'd go to the library. I pick up a paper for current events, verified and true happenings. This is not news, even given his history. It's a product of a carniverous media that convinces themselves there is blood in the water at the drop of a hat. It's reckless and needs to stop.
:notworthyWhen it comes to speaking the truth, you never fail!
And, as for Goodell's no tolerance policy, after Chris Henry completed his 8 game suspension, he actually got arrested again for assaulting an 18 year old, and breaking his windows. He's still playing!
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-10-2008, 10:40 AM
How many fights have you been in while in a public place as an adult?
zero for me. I don't think it's being blown out of proportion if they damaged the bathroom. Have we becomed so calloused to just write it off as "blowing off a little steam"
The sad thing is that his other behavior has been so extremely outlandish, that we as society are willing to let real infractions like these just slide.
A fight in a restroom is still unnacceptable, and if I did so with one of my co-workers, I'd be unemployed today.
I haven't been in any in public. But, I do know, that if you do get into a fight in public, and the police is called, you either, go to jail, or get a ticket, or both. Neither one happened! Like I said, I know Pac is an idiot, but, if it were really that serious, somebody should've been locked up.
How many fights have you been in while in a public place as an adult?
zero for me. I don't think it's being blown out of proportion if they damaged the bathroom. Have we becomed so calloused to just write it off as "blowing off a little steam"
The sad thing is that his other behavior has been so extremely outlandish, that we as society are willing to let real infractions like these just slide.
A fight in a restroom is still unnacceptable, and if I did so with one of my co-workers, I'd be unemployed today.
What fight? There was no fight. There was a shouting match.
What damage? Read the article. Minor damage to ONE mirror. Not destroyed, not shattered, but MINOR damage.
I am sure glad none of you guys have ever argued with anyone or caused damage to a hotel room that you were staying in because if so, you are a dirty thug.
This isn't even a story but the media has made it one.
What fight? There was no fight. There was a shouting match.
What damage? Read the article. Minor damage to ONE mirror. Not destroyed, not shattered, but MINOR damage.
I am sure glad none of you guys have ever argued with anyone or caused damage to a hotel room that you were staying in because if so, you are a dirty thug.
This isn't even a story but the media has made it one.
The simple fact that a grown a@@ man has hired babysitters is enough to think that anything he does will make the news....especially since cops have been called 13 times since you've been in the league.
chunky79
10-12-2008, 01:09 PM
and now he apologizes
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3639586
TEXREB
10-12-2008, 02:50 PM
When Pacman's playing days are over, no one will protect him from himself or give a damn what happens to him. That is a fact.
He will end up broke and/or in jail. 5 years after he retires or is run out of the league, we'll see ESPN doing one of those "Where are they now?" segments on NFL countdown with the commentators talking about what a waste of talent and what a moron he was for wasting his opportunities.
He is lucky he is even in the league again. You would think he would not even put himself in situations where something bad could happen.
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