Cypress Bay at Katy

[rancher52]

Goodness, the ball is on the carpet several times already.

[drgnbkr]

Katy seems to be able to move but has to hold onto the ball. Weber has 2 fumbles

[rancher52]

That was a bad break for Katy early whent CB clearly fumbled by the official ruled the QB down.

[drgnbkr]

That was a bad break for Katy early whent CB clearly fumbled by the official ruled the QB down.

sometimes it is incredible the obvious calls the refs miss...

[steeler 01]

How did they call a fall start? When the Cy Bay guys hadn't even gotten on the ball?

[chunky79]

wow, cybay already used all 3 of their timeouts

[rancher52]

How did they call a fall start? When the Cy Bay guys hadn't even gotten on the ball?

I wondered that too .... the receiver had lined up in the neutral zone but had not gotten into a stance and possibly could have moved back. I have never seen that before.

[chunky79]

"webber takes it to the treasury and makes a deposit for 6 points" 43 yard run. 7-0 katy

[steeler 01]

Cy Bay's D-line sucks. Their gonna get run on all night.

[rancher52]

John Curtis 49 North Miami Beach 0 FINAL

[twcpfan1]

Cy Bay's D-line sucks. Their gonna get run on all night.

Oak Ridge might woodshed this team

[cajun]

John Curtis 49 North Miami Beach 0 FINAL


You beat me to it...

[chunky79]

katy running back mike webber has already gone over the century mark in the 1st quarter

[steeler 01]

Wow someone talked about special teams. Well Cy-Bay is one up now.

[chunky79]

katy punt blocked for those who didnt know, cybay at katy 17

[steeler 01]

Horrible tackling on that TD run for Cy Bay

[chunky79]

special teams are very special today. katy up 7-6 after katy blocks PAT attempt

[MoJoHitMan]

Maybe it was the Cy Bay D-line that was stuck in the Hotel elevator for 30 minutes??:D Katy is dominating in the trenches!

[rancher52]

But with the turnovers this is ugly so far.

[chunky79]

definitely a defensive game

[rancher52]

definitely a defensive game

The funny thing I would normally never consider a game where a back has 140+ yards rushing in a half as a Defensive game.

[chunky79]

katy scores on a 48 yard rush. 14-6 katy

[MoJoHitMan]

That was a nice play by Katy! He took that DB for a ride into to end zone! Katy representing for Texas H.S. football! Lets get some more! :)

[chunky79]

14-6 katy at half

[chunky79]

this is a reason not to piss off katy. 2007 mayde creek with the whole going to our school and then watching our pregame circle. 2007 clements by walking through our pregame, and 2008 Cybay by sending the funeral wreath

[rancher52]

Did Webber get hurt in the first half or is this normal to insert #24?

[chunky79]

i think they just put in 24 to lesson the workload on webber or because webber fumbled like 2 or 3 times

[rancher52]

Katy has two backs with over a 100 yds rushing each. 21-6 Katy with 7min+ left and Katy is knocking on the door again.

[steeler 01]

I have a hard time believing Cy Bay is a top team in Florida. The teams I've watched from Florida this season would beat them.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I have a hard time believing Cy Bay is a top team in Florida. The teams I've watched from Florida this season would beat them.

I'm stunned that you feel this way.

[rancher52]

I have a hard time believing Cy Bay is a top team in Florida. The teams I've watched from Florida this season would beat them.


I know this gets the FL posters going, but I honestly believe that FL HSFB is having a down year. Given the success last year it would have been hard to sustain that level, but most of the teams I have seen are not what we have typically seen in FL over the last decade. I think Aquinas is pretty good from what I saw on TV and I have to believe Lakeland is better than they were given credit for at the beginning of the season. Since most of the counter arguments on the lack of success of FL teams this year have been to ask "why you didn't play so and so last year?", I think that shows even the FL faithful recognize a fall off this year.

[DownSouth]

I have a hard time believing Cy Bay is a top team in Florida. The teams I've watched from Florida this season would beat them.

That's what I've been saying, which I hate too since I'm an alum.

Here's the EXACT reason why Katy is dominating: Skill wise I think they're evenly matched BUT Cypress is used to playing VERY undisciplined teams that are filled with CRAZY athletes, think about Pahokee every weak, that's essentially their two wins against Dillard and Boyd Anderson. Western blows so I won't even go there.

Katy has discipline which Cypress is not used to seeing, plus they have a crap D-line, and no safety but that's known.

The CB offense just can't fool Katy the way they do S. Fla teams that play an entirely different style of ball; essentially, no coaching, just a bunch of 6'2" 200 pound backers running around with their heads cut off. Big credit to Katy for staying home in the gaps.

That, too me is the main and maybe only difference that I hadn't thought of before the game.

[steeler 01]

I'm stunned that you feel this way.

Why are you stunned? Seriously this team has no d-line at all or defense IMO. Teams that have good O-lines and run the ball would gash this team. I'd take Lakeland, Apopka, MNW, BTW, Pahokee, Armwood, Plant, Killian and STA over this team. Those are the teams I've watched this season so far from Florida, and I'd be pretty confident that those teams would beat them.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

nm

[DownSouth]

Why are you stunned? Seriously this team has no d-line at all or defense IMO. Teams that have good O-lines and run the ball would gash this team. I'd take Lakeland, Apopka, MNW, BTW, Pahokee, Armwood, Plant, Killian and STA over this team. Those are the teams I've watched this season so far from Florida, and I'd be pretty confident that those teams would beat them.

Those are all given, most def those teams you listed would gash them, Dillard gashed them with Trabis Ward.

Give Guandolo another couple of years and he'll have a team. He needs a QB that can throw when its needed though. Had last years CD D-line been around it would be much closer, KATY still wins it 17-14 with last years CB D line there but CB still has no chance against the KATY D because it is such a stlye matchup nightmare.

CB is about 17-20th in the state.

Gordon is a beast though, that isnt hard to see. Gamble and Walker are doing what they usually do, disappear.

[MemorialMustangs]

Why are you stunned? Seriously this team has no d-line at all or defense IMO. Teams that have good O-lines and run the ball would gash this team. I'd take Lakeland, Apopka, MNW, BTW, Pahokee, Armwood, Plant, Killian and STA over this team. Those are the teams I've watched this season so far from Florida, and I'd be pretty confident that those teams would beat them.

This is the way I look at football... Discipline and coaching are the keys to success... It is rare to find that kind of stuff in Florida... But what Florida does have is just loads of talent... I say 8/10 times the Texas teams (if they are comparable in rankings and stuff) would win the game... Just because of the whole coaching advantage Texas teams have... We play the game as teams instead of really talented individuals here... That is EXTREMELY rare in Florida... And I am not trying to be offensive in any way to Florida...

[MemorialMustangs]

Those are all given, most def those teams you listed would gash them, Dillard gashed them with Trabis Ward.

Give Guandolo another couple of years and he'll have a team. He needs a QB that can throw when its needed though. Had last years CD D-line been around it would be much closer, KATY still wins it 17-14 with last years CB D line there but CB still has no chance against the KATY D because it is such a stlye matchup nightmare.

CB is about 17-20th in the state.

Gordon is a beast though, that isnt hard to see. Gamble and Walker are doing what they usually do, disappear.


Just want to make sure that u know that Katy got blown out by The Woodlands High School 47-0... And lost their first game against North Shore

[lufkindad]

It's just kinda funny to me, everyone was predicting a close game here, isn't Cy Bay ranked #5 in their classification?

Now that Katy(who has had their problems early on) took them boys behind the woodshed all of sudden Cy Bay is deemed overrated in Flordia. UHHH OK :rolleyes:

[cajun]

I know this gets the FL posters going, but I honestly believe that FL HSFB is having a down year. Given the success last year it would have been hard to sustain that level, but most of the teams I have seen are not what we have typically seen in FL over the last decade. I think Aquinas is pretty good from what I saw on TV and I have to believe Lakeland is better than they were given credit for at the beginning of the season. Since most of the counter arguments on the lack of success of FL teams this year have been to ask "why you didn't play so and so last year?", I think that shows even the FL faithful recognize a fall off this year.

I don't know...Hard to say....

I don't ever remember Florida playing this many OOS games on this level...It could be a normal year-how do we know really?...

[DownSouth]

I know this gets the FL posters going, but I honestly believe that FL HSFB is having a down year. Given the success last year it would have been hard to sustain that level, but most of the teams I have seen are not what we have typically seen in FL over the last decade. I think Aquinas is pretty good from what I saw on TV and I have to believe Lakeland is better than they were given credit for at the beginning of the season. Since most of the counter arguments on the lack of success of FL teams this year have been to ask "why you didn't play so and so last year?", I think that shows even the FL faithful recognize a fall off this year.


No no no, we admit it right away.

Booker T. and Da West simply could not reload as fast as we all thought. STA and Lakeland, as well as Armwood are fine but yes, we are def in a down year.

Miami teams will be back next year, for sure, and the power goes back to Northwestern because they're loaded for 09'.

We had sooo many teams graduate so much talent that our teams are all very young and simply not as well educated in the game yet.

Of our teams that are LEGIT LEGIT, St. Thomas, and Armwood. All other schools are weaker than last (Cypress isnt, this will be their best season yet, but Eugene Smith of Miramar is going to do somthing AWFUL to that CB D...I'm not looking forward to it.)

Look for Lakeland, STA, and Northwestern to all be Top 10 National teams next year, this year we just don't have it.

1. Texas
2. Florida (based off of how may guys we'll send to Major D1 schools)
3. California
4. Choose any team from the South that has 1 powerhouse for the state i.e. Mississippi with South Panola or South Carolina with Byrnes.

Last year, we were the best state, on almost every facet, we had a once in every 10-12 years kind of dominance in Dade County which showed the country what its all about...DownSouth, but yep, this year we just can't say that we're the best.

I am glad to see our teams go out there anyway and play the games our guys have been going into, most times as the underdog.

[Hitman49]

Why are you stunned? Seriously this team has no d-line at all or defense IMO. Teams that have good O-lines and run the ball would gash this team. I'd take Lakeland, Apopka, MNW, BTW, Pahokee, Armwood, Plant, Killian and STA over this team. Those are the teams I've watched this season so far from Florida, and I'd be pretty confident that those teams would beat them.

Yes, Steeler it is confirmed they are not that good. lol This game should have been like 50-0.

Texas High School Football Baby!! Top Quality depth in Texas stands alone!!

Can you really believe that Katy had been beat 47-0??? Depth Depth Depth!!

[jc84chill]

We might have had an Abilene/FW Paschal scenario (81-3) had this been last year's Katy team judging by how things played out.

[DownSouth]

It's just kinda funny to me, everyone was predicting a close game here, isn't Cy Bay ranked #5 in their classification?

Now that Katy(who has had their problems early on) took them boys behind the woodshed all of sudden Cy Bay is deemed overrated in Flordia. UHHH OK :rolleyes:


You can go lok back at any post in any of the huge threads that there are about thi game where both Cane and myself say enough about CB that none of you should be shocked by this.

We both said, CB is good, has their ranking due to the respect that their coach has in Florida, and that they have yet to play Miramar which likely will torch them in the air.

[steeler 01]

I don't know...Hard to say....

I don't ever remember Florida playing this many OOS games on this level...It could be a normal year-how do we know really?...

I agree. The problem is in most of these games. Florida is playing teams they shouldn't be playing. Apopka should never have played South Panola IMO. Send STA, Lakeland or Armwood. South Panola is without a doubt. The best team in Mississippi and is on a crazy win streak. To think one of your better teams will beat them is likely, but not in their favor. Now if they send their best teams. Their probability goes up, and it might even favor them. Their playing states best teams. With some of their top teams, but not their best teams.
If Texas sent a Wylie to play STA, Byrnes, Northside etc..... Would any Texan really think they should win those games? Thats the problem. That happened with Florida this year IMO.

[DownSouth]

Just want to make sure that u know that Katy got blown out by The Woodlands High School 47-0... And lost their first game against North Shore

They lost in a blowout and by what? 4?

Both of those teams are better, but I doubt Katy would lose again 47-0, everyone that said things a few months back said Katy had to go through Murderous Row before this one.

[Pool Man]

Katy has definately improved since the Woodlands game, but this should show how good the Woodlands is. IMO they are one of the most underated team in Texas. We've got alot of ball to play so it will be interesting to see how both Katy and The Woodlands finish.

[Texas Bob]

I'm proud of Katy today. We were great host. Our band played their school song for them, we gave them special seating at Rhodes, we loaned them some of our more attractive trainers to keep them watered up, fumble a couple of times to give them a chance, then we out scored them and double lined them on the after game hand shake.

I'm sure they are looking forward to coming back next year.

[Hitman49]

I agree. The problem is in most of these games. Florida is playing teams they shouldn't be playing. Apopka should never have played South Panola IMO. Send STA, Lakeland or Armwood. South Panola is without a doubt. The best team in Mississippi and is on a crazy win streak. To think one of your better teams will beat them is likely, but not in their favor. Now if they send their best teams. Their probability goes up, and it might even favor them. Their playing states best teams. With some of their top teams, but not their best teams.
If Texas sent a Wylie to play STA, Byrnes, Northside etc..... Would any Texan really think they should win those games? Thats the problem. That happened with Florida this year IMO.


The problem is that Florida does not have great top quality depth. Florida can't send STA, Lakeland to play every game..

Katy looked like a machine against Cy-Bay. The same Katy that was beat 47-0 the 2nd game of the season...

[katyfan52]

It's just kinda funny to me, everyone was predicting a close game here, isn't Cy Bay ranked #5 in their classification?

Now that Katy(who has had their problems early on) took them boys behind the woodshed all of sudden Cy Bay is deemed overrated in Flordia. UHHH OK :rolleyes:
Thanks lufkindad. Same thing happened last year until the last game. :rolleyes: We're used to it.

[ftballin11]

No no no, we admit it right away.

Booker T. and Da West simply could not reload as fast as we all thought. STA and Lakeland, as well as Armwood are fine but yes, we are def in a down year.

Miami teams will be back next year, for sure, and the power goes back to Northwestern because they're loaded for 09'.

We had sooo many teams graduate so much talent that our teams are all very young and simply not as well educated in the game yet.

Of our teams that are LEGIT LEGIT, St. Thomas, and Armwood. All other schools are weaker than last (Cypress isnt, this will be their best season yet, but Eugene Smith of Miramar is going to do somthing AWFUL to that CB D...I'm not looking forward to it.)

Look for Lakeland, STA, and Northwestern to all be Top 10 National teams next year, this year we just don't have it.

1. Texas
2. Florida (based off of how may guys we'll send to Major D1 schools)
3. California
4. Choose any team from the South that has 1 powerhouse for the state i.e. Mississippi with South Panola or South Carolina with Byrnes.

Last year, we were the best state, on almost every facet, we had a once in every 10-12 years kind of dominance in Dade County which showed the country what its all about...DownSouth, but yep, this year we just can't say that we're the best.
I am glad to see our teams go out there anyway and play the games our guys have been going into, most times as the underdog.


No way were yall the best. SLC who didnt even make it to the Semi's went toe to toe with some would consider the best team in Florida history. Not to mention that SLC team was beat up and missing several starters.

I say Katy coul have beat mnw, but there is no way you can say Florida was the best in Nation last year.

[lufkindad]

Thanks lufkindad. Same thing happened last year until the last game. :rolleyes: We're used to it.

No Prob, you guys are obviously getting better each week. Way to represent Texas!!

[twcpfan1]

Katy has definately improved since the Woodlands game, but this should show how good the Woodlands is. IMO they are one of the most underated team in Texas. We've got alot of ball to play so it will be interesting to see how both Katy and The Woodlands finish.

Katy has no competition in Region 3 D2. It's very weak. So is Region 4 D2. The Woodlands will have much stiffer competition on their half of D1. The comparisons will be extremely skewed.

[ftballin11]

Katy has no competition in Region 3 D2. It's very weak. So is Region 4 D2. The Woodlands will have much stiffer competition on their half of D1. The comparisons will be extremely skewed.


Well to be the best you beat the best. Think of it this way you wont have teams telling you your overrated because youve played nobody.

[TrojanHorse03]

I agree. The problem is in most of these games. Florida is playing teams they shouldn't be playing. Apopka should never have played South Panola IMO. Send STA, Lakeland or Armwood. South Panola is without a doubt. The best team in Mississippi and is on a crazy win streak. To think one of your better teams will beat them is likely, but not in their favor. Now if they send their best teams. Their probability goes up, and it might even favor them. Their playing states best teams. With some of their top teams, but not their best teams.
If Texas sent a Wylie to play STA, Byrnes, Northside etc..... Would any Texan really think they should win those games? Thats the problem. That happened with Florida this year IMO.

In regards to Florida versus the nation I think Bodyguard on another board put it best:

"So the result is not shocking, but does show Florida teams are high school teams just like everywhere else and won't dominate other state's top teams just because they are "good" Florida teams. There are some Florida fans who didn't seem to realize that previously and will remain in denial..."

[steeler 01]

In regards to Florida versus the nation I think Bodyguard on another board put it best:

"So the result is not shocking, but does show Florida teams are high school teams just like everywhere else and won't dominate other state's top teams just because they are "good" Florida teams. There are some Florida fans who didn't seem to realize that previously and will remain in denial..."

I agree 100 percent with BG. This goes for every state IMO.

[Canes0177]

No way were yall the best. SLC who didnt even make it to the Semi's went toe to toe with some would consider the best team in Florida history. Not to mention that SLC team was beat up and missing several starters.

I say Katy coul have beat mnw, but there is no way you can say Florida was the best in Nation last year.

SLC has won 89 or their last 91 games against teams from Texas.

Both loses were by 1 point.

The last time they were beaten by more than 8 points (MNW's margin) was the 2001 4A-II state semifinals.

Northwester ate teams like Katy for lunch. SLC was the best match.

[Canes0177]

The problem is that Florida does not have great top quality depth. Florida can't send STA, Lakeland to play every game..


We're 11 weeks away from having 3 straight national championships from 3 different schools.

But you're right. No depth.

[rocketgrl94]

ya'll kicked Florida's @ss...i counted ya'll out but i was wrong!...way wrong!
WAY 2 GO!!!!:notworthy

[Canes0177]

ya'll kicked Florida's @ss...i counted ya'll out but i was wrong!...way wrong!
WAY 2 GO!!!!:notworthy

Correction.

They kicked Cypress Bay's ***.

[Pool Man]

We're 11 weeks away from having 3 straight national championships from 3 different schools.

But you're right. No depth.


I don't know what national championships you're talking about? ESPN called Katy the national champion after last year. So who's right? ESPN or USA Today? The national polls are an absolute joke and there is no way to crown a champion without some sort of playoff.

[rocketgrl94]

Correction.

They kicked Cypress Bay's ***.

well same difference they represent Florida...so thats why i said Florida:rolleyes

[Malmason]

I'm proud of Katy today. We were great host. Our band played their school song for them, we gave them special seating at Rhodes, we loaned them some of our more attractive trainers to keep them watered up, fumble a couple of times to give them a chance, then we out scored them and double lined them on the after game hand shake.

I'm sure they are looking forward to coming back next year.


Wow, that is very nice of Katy, for even playing their school song for them. It must be hard for FL team to travel a long distance without the support team (band, drill team, etc.), and play against 2007 State Champion. Sure seem like you guys are being a great host. Wish I was there.

[Texas Bob]

Wow, that is very nice of Katy, for even playing their school song for them. It must be hard for FL team to travel a long distance without the support team (band, drill team, etc.), and play against 2007 State Champion. Sure seem like you guys are being a great host. Wish I was there.

This game scared me a bit. During their warm up they looked big. Then when they band played the National Anthem they stood on the sidelines like they didn't know what to do? Do they not play the National Anthem at Florida HS School games? Beyond football I wish I knew what they thought about the game as a whole; band, drill team, run through banners etc. The same? different? What.

I understand that they have agreed to come back and play Katy again next year.

[rwilleby]

This game scared me a bit. During their warm up they looked big. Then when they band played the National Anthem they stood on the sidelines like they didn't know what to do? Do they not play the National Anthem at Florida HS School games? Beyond football I wish I knew what they thought about the game as a whole; band, drill team, run through banners etc. The same? different? What.

I understand that they have agreed to come back and play Katy again next year.

They will be back... and our young guns will be one season older... That will be fun...

[HUM398]

Katy has no competition in Region 3 D2. It's very weak. So is Region 4 D2. The Woodlands will have much stiffer competition on their half of D1. The comparisons will be extremely skewed.

Um...Humble.

[dada]

SLC has won 89 or their last 91 games against teams from Texas.

Both loses were by 1 point.

The last time they were beaten by more than 8 points (MNW's margin) was the 2001 4A-II state semifinals.

Northwester ate teams like Katy for lunch. SLC was the best match.

Dude..you've been saying that all year on 3 different boards that I know of

[Falcon16]

Next year the score could be 60 for Katy. They are going to make a state run again next year. Get ready texas for the Tigers to roll again in 09:ninja:

[Texasfrog]

SLC has won 89 or their last 91 games against teams from Texas.

Both loses were by 1 point.

The last time they were beaten by more than 8 points (MNW's margin) was the 2001 4A-II state semifinals.

Northwester ate teams like Katy for lunch. SLC was the best match.

You are without any shadow of a doubt the biggest IDIOT on this board.

Now all the sudden the 2007 MNW would of tore up the 2007 Katy team. Wow, ok.:rolleyes:

If you thought todays Katy team that beat the snot out of the #3 ranked South Florida team (Cy-Bay) 31-6, was good . You should of seen last years Katy team IDIOT.

They would of gone "toe to toe' with the mighty #1 team in South Florida history.:rolleyes:

So would about 3 or 4 other Texas teams last year.

The World renownd MNW teams SLC by 8 pts and all the sudden they were a mighty World Power. :rolleyes:

All we know right now is the South Florida teams have been gettting crushed all year except the STA win against the mighty World renowned Elder team from OHio.:rolleyes:

[Texasfrog]

Next year the score could be 60 for Katy. They are going to make a state run again next year. Get ready texas for the Tigers to roll again in 09:ninja:

Next year Katy will destroy those poor kids. It wont even be funny. I almost feel sorry for them because this was suppose to be there Senior dominate team.

[Falcon16]

You are without any shadow of a doubt the biggest IDIOT on this board.

Now all the sudden the 2007 MNW would of tore up the 2007 Katy team. Wow, ok.:rolleyes:

If you thought todays Katy team that beat the snot out of the #3 ranked South Florida team (Cy-Bay) 31-6, was good . You should of seen last years Katy team IDIOT.

They would of gone "toe to toe' with the mighty #1 team in South Florida history.:rolleyes:

So would about 3 or 4 other Texas teams last year.

The World renownd MNW teams SLC by 8 pts and all the sudden they were a mighty World Power. :rolleyes:

All we know right now is the South Florida teams have been gettting crushed all year except the STA win against the mighty World renowned Elder team from OHio.:rolleyes:

the Katy team last year would have given any HS team in history a run for the money and I would not have bet against them in any game against any team. :ninja:

[Falcon16]

the team last year would have given any HS team in history a run for the money and I would not have bet against them in any game against any team. :ninja:

KATY TIGERS that is:ninja:

[Hitman49]

Dude..you've been saying that all year on 3 different boards that I know of

Besides they have not been beat by more then 8 points. MNW only won by 8 points.

[da hawaiian]

SLC has won 89 or their last 91 games against teams from Texas.

Both loses were by 1 point.

The last time they were beaten by more than 8 points (MNW's margin) was the 2001 4A-II state semifinals.

Northwester ate teams like Katy for lunch. SLC was the best match.

Praytell what is it about "teams like Katy" that you so nonchallantly dismiss them so?

Style of play? Personell? I'm not dismissing it wasn't possible but if you're going to throw our state-champ under the bus atleast come with some facts to base your opinions from.

[dada]

the 47-0 loss is probably the best thing to happen to Katy.....they realized that had to do more than just put on the red jersey with "Katy" on the front......This defense is GOOD......Sam Holl.....wow......

[Texasfrog]

This game scared me a bit. During their warm up they looked big. Then when they band played the National Anthem they stood on the sidelines like they didn't know what to do? Do they not play the National Anthem at Florida HS School games? Beyond football I wish I knew what they thought about the game as a whole; band, drill team, run through banners etc. The same? different? What.

I understand that they have agreed to come back and play Katy again next year.

Texas Bob,

Being a Texas guy in South Florida (Broward Co) I have been to about 25 HS games over a 5 year period here.

I've already had this debate with Cane (who I personanlly think is a ) about the National Athem here in South Florida.

NO, they dont kwow what to do when the National Athem is played at just about every game I've been to. Everyone just keeps walking around and BS like nothing is going on. It drives me crazy as a War-Vet that has been to several combat zones because I find it 100% and totally disrespecting to America.

PS. I went to the Cypress Bay vs Western High game a few weeks ago. The National Athem is being played and the Color Guard is on the 50 yard line and both teams are on opposite ends of the field still going through Warm-ups and running plays, then a Punter almost nails one of the Color Guard guys holding a flag with the freaking ball as he launched one into the air right at the Color Guard during the National Athem.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

It's really sad here sometimes and is one big reason I cant wait to see South Florida in my rear view mirror.;)

[rwilleby]

the 47-0 loss is probably the best thing to happen to Katy.....they realized that had to do more than just put on the red jersey with "Katy" on the front......This defense is GOOD......Sam Holl.....wow......

Sam is awesome... And we get to see him next year too... Bigger, stronger, smarter... Wow...

[cajun]

Praytell what is it about "teams like Katy" that you so nonchallantly dismiss them so?

Style of play? Personell? I'm not dismissing it wasn't possible but if you're going to throw our state-champ under the bus atleast come with some facts to base your opinions from.

Cane doesn't understand that when you play these top level teams(any state) you'd better be packing some good "line" play....Offense and Defense...I don't care how many 4.4 kids you have...

[Dynastybegan86]

Next year the score could be 60 for Katy. They are going to make a state run again next year. Get ready texas for the Tigers to roll again in 09:ninja:

pssst, this year we'll make a run at it too!;)

[chunky79]

I don't know what national championships you're talking about? ESPN called Katy the national champion after last year. So who's right? ESPN or USA Today? The national polls are an absolute joke and there is no way to crown a champion without some sort of playoff.

espn ranked us 5. usa today ranked us 4. footballpowertv.com ranked us number one. that site has no credibility though. so yeah . . .

[chunky79]

the Katy team last year would have given any HS team in history a run for the money and I would not have bet against them in any game against any team. :ninja:
why thank you

[chunky79]

Next year the score could be 60 for Katy. They are going to make a state run again next year. Get ready texas for the Tigers to roll again in 09:ninja:
i dont know, they are going to have to replace another offensive line, i say the next time you see a run at state is 2010

[twcpfan1]

Um...Humble.

Didn't think Humble was going D2. In any case, did they not lose big a few weeks ago? I know. So did Katy.

[da hawaiian]

Cane doesn't understand that when you play these top level teams(any state) you'd better be packing some good "line" play....Offense and Defense...I don't care how many 4.4 kids you have...

I always knew I liked you Cajun

[Texasfrog]

the Katy team last year would have given any HS team in history a run for the money and I would not have bet against them in any game against any team. :ninja:

100% No doubt about it. But some people just dont have a clue what their talking about.

He obviously doesnt know much about last years Katy team.

[Texasfrog]

Cane doesn't understand that when you play these top level teams(any state) you'd better be packing some good "line" play....Offense and Defense...I don't care how many 4.4 kids you have...

It's a good thing they (Cy-Bay) didnt have to play against Euless Trinity and their bulldozers on the "O & D-lines."

PS. That's another reason why Pahokee should never been mentioned as any type of National elite HS team. Not that they dont always have a handful of quality athletes but they would get beat-up with overpowering "LINE PLAY" and "DEPTH" of stronger and bigger HS teams.

[dada]

the score was 31-6....shouldnt have been that close.

[DownSouth]

No way were yall the best. SLC who didnt even make it to the Semi's went toe to toe with some would consider the best team in Florida history. Not to mention that SLC team was beat up and missing several starters.

I say Katy coul have beat mnw, but there is no way you can say Florida was the best in Nation last year.

I know, SLC was missing alot.

You still had nothing on Florida last year, NOBODY did. Katy would have never beaten MNW, SLC as it was was still a very good team and it was in Texas in front of how many of your fans? they seemed to be on the level of last year's St. Thomas team (maybe a little, little lower) when I watched the game.

MNW would not have lost last year, Booker T. neither. Pahokee was loaded last year and had an actual QB to run their offense while hey had Regis in the middle at DT (now at Miami), they would have been nearly impossible to beat.

Rankings don't mean a whole lot, but when you see 3 Florida teams in the Top 9 of the main poll then that does mean something. Our mediocre teams would have been .500 against other states middle of the pack teams (Miramar, Cypress would be in this category from last year). Our upper yet non elites such as Deerfield Beach, Naples, Lakeland (wasn't elite last year), Armwood (ran into Booker T. in the playoffs), Plant, Madison County, Apopka, Glades Central, Boone, St. Thomas (elitle this year), Nease, and Osceola would have beaten down almost any elite team from any state last year. This is really an argument I don't feel like having again though, I'm just saying look at those teams from last season and its obvious that last year was top-to-bottom one of the best years of Florida football in quite a few years.

You'll be able to look back in 6 years or so and see 20 new faces in the NFL from Florida, which is how good it was down here last year. Everyone knows last year was our year.

I'm sure Katy were monsters last year, but they don't beat MNW, maybe St. Thomas, possibly Booker T., maybe Pahokee if they had an outstanding Pass D last year. All of these teams are VERY different than last year and all except St. Thomas are nowhere near where they all were last season.

Da West gave SLC plenty of chances while SLC had returning starters at many positions, trust me I get it, they did lose ALOT. You guys still talked so much smack in the months lead up though, some of you still don't even give them credit for it even though it looks like they didn't lose another game until the 3rd round of the playoffs.

[DownSouth]

They will be back... and our young guns will be one season older... That will be fun...


And our best guys like Gordon will be at Auburn or wherever he decides to go.

Next year will be a Katy slaughter unless Cypress gets a QB that can change the dynamic when the wing-T runs fail.

I don't see the D-line being that great either, much of the O-line will be gone.

Katy will roll in the rematch...ROLL.

[chunky79]

I know, SLC was missing alot.

You still had nothing on Florida last year, NOBODY did. Katy would have never beaten MNW, SLC as it was was still a very good team and it was in Texas in front of how many of your fans? they seemed to be on the level of last year's St. Thomas team (maybe a little, little lower) when I watched the game.

MNW would not have lost last year, Booker T. neither. Pahokee was loaded last year and had an actual QB to run their offense while hey had Regis in the middle at DT (now at Miami), they would have been nearly impossible to beat.

Rankings don't mean a whole lot, but when you see 3 Florida teams in the Top 9 of the main poll then that does mean something. Our mediocre teams would have been .500 against other states middle of the pack teams (Miramar, Cypress would be in this category from last year). Our upper yet non elites such as Deerfield Beach, Naples, Lakeland (wasn't elite last year), Armwood (ran into Booker T. in the playoffs), Plant, Madison County, Apopka, Glades Central, Boone, St. Thomas (elitle this year), Nease, and Osceola would have beaten down almost any elite team from any state last year. This is really an argument I don't feel like having again though, I'm just saying look at those teams from last season and its obvious that last year was top-to-bottom one of the best years of Florida football in quite a few years.

You'll be able to look back in 6 years or so and see 20 new faces in the NFL from Florida, which is how good it was down here last year. Everyone knows last year was our year.

I'm sure Katy were monsters last year, but they don't beat MNW, maybe St. Thomas, possibly Booker T., maybe Pahokee if they had an outstanding Pass D last year. All of these teams are VERY different than last year and all except St. Thomas are nowhere near where they all were last season.

Da West gave SLC plenty of chances while SLC had returning starters at many positions, trust me I get it, they did lose ALOT. You guys still talked so much smack in the months lead up though, some of you still don't even give them credit for it even though it looks like they didn't lose another game until the 3rd round of the playoffs.

you sir, fail. katy2007 would have murdered all florida teams

[DownSouth]

You are without any shadow of a doubt the biggest IDIOT on this board.

Now all the sudden the 2007 MNW would of tore up the 2007 Katy team. Wow, ok.:rolleyes:

If you thought todays Katy team that beat the snot out of the #3 ranked South Florida team (Cy-Bay) 31-6, was good . You should of seen last years Katy team IDIOT.

They would of gone "toe to toe' with the mighty #1 team in South Florida history.:rolleyes:

So would about 3 or 4 other Texas teams last year.

The World renownd MNW teams SLC by 8 pts and all the sudden they were a mighty World Power. :rolleyes:

All we know right now is the South Florida teams have been gettting crushed all year except the STA win against the mighty World renowned Elder team from OHio.:rolleyes:


Where do you grab that number?

We've been saying that CB was average and now you want to start up with this "Katy would have beat MNW" hypotheticals? Seriously?

Katy is very disciplined but wasn't that much of a talent overmatch for CB, style wise it was the worst possible front CB could have seen

You hanging your assumption on this Katy over a decent at best Cypress team (that will probably get torched next week) is the lamest way to say Katy of last year would take MNW. MNW would have put 70 on CB of this year (this being CB's best team ever) and 80 on last years team.

Cypress had a nice ranking in a VERY down 6A due to respect from their coach, Dillard and Boyd Anderson are 2 of the most idiotic teams you will ever see that combined had about 300 penalty yard against CB and still was close in the case of BA and Dillard gashed the D and put up 23.

Once again, it was alot of Texas fans that were the ones talking for months prior to MNW-SLC, when they lost it was "well they lost all of this" which I'm sure was true but to think that a win over CB (whose best season ever was last year's 10-2 which they were a 2nd round playoff loss 32-20, or something like that, to a North Miami Beach team that got smoked 49-0 today by John Curtis) means that MNW is somehow weaker is so beyond grasping for anything.

[TrojanHorse03]

I know, SLC was missing alot.

You still had nothing on Florida last year, NOBODY did. Katy would have never beaten MNW, SLC as it was was still a very good team and it was in Texas in front of how many of your fans? they seemed to be on the level of last year's St. Thomas team (maybe a little, little lower) when I watched the game.

MNW would not have lost last year, Booker T. neither. Pahokee was loaded last year and had an actual QB to run their offense while hey had Regis in the middle at DT (now at Miami), they would have been nearly impossible to beat.

Rankings don't mean a whole lot, but when you see 3 Florida teams in the Top 9 of the main poll then that does mean something. Our mediocre teams would have been .500 against other states middle of the pack teams (Miramar, Cypress would be in this category from last year). Our upper yet non elites such as Deerfield Beach, Naples, Lakeland (wasn't elite last year), Armwood (ran into Booker T. in the playoffs), Plant, Madison County, Apopka, Glades Central, Boone, St. Thomas (elitle this year), Nease, and Osceola would have beaten down almost any elite team from any state last year. This is really an argument I don't feel like having again though, I'm just saying look at those teams from last season and its obvious that last year was top-to-bottom one of the best years of Florida football in quite a few years.

You'll be able to look back in 6 years or so and see 20 new faces in the NFL from Florida, which is how good it was down here last year. Everyone knows last year was our year.

I'm sure Katy were monsters last year, but they don't beat MNW, maybe St. Thomas, possibly Booker T., maybe Pahokee if they had an outstanding Pass D last year. All of these teams are VERY different than last year and all except St. Thomas are nowhere near where they all were last season.

Da West gave SLC plenty of chances while SLC had returning starters at many positions, trust me I get it, they did lose ALOT. You guys still talked so much smack in the months lead up though, some of you still don't even give them credit for it even though it looks like they didn't lose another game until the 3rd round of the playoffs.

LOL, please Florida fans need to quit with that. Anybody who did buy that bull outside of Florida doesn't anymore buy it anymore. Just because no worse than the 2nd best Florida team of all time(after only maybe the 2006 version) beat a Southlake team that had to replace 9 starters on D, 3 offensive linemen, and it's head coach by a measly 8 points clearly doesn't make Florida better than everyone else. Sorryhttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/CedarHillDad/iono.gif, the jig is up :laugh!

[DownSouth]

you sir, fail. katy2007 would have murdered all florida teams


Maybe, but not Northwestern.

Not Booker T.

Other than those two, I'll actually agree with you. I'm sure they were freaks, they did finish #4 in the country so I believe much of what you say about them.

[Texasfrog]

I know, SLC was missing alot.

You still had nothing on Florida last year, NOBODY did. Katy would have never beaten MNW, How in the World do you know this ? Plus, sorry Downsouth but there is a Hell of alot more then just SLC & MNW from 2007. If you think the mighty MNW and BTW of last year would of just rolled up and over the 2007 Katy or Euless Trinity team well... just well.


SLC as it was was still a very good team and it was in Texas in front of how many of your fans? they seemed to be on the level of last year's St. Thomas team (maybe a little, little lower) when I watched the game.

MNW would not have lost last year, Booker T. neither. Pahokee was loaded last year and had an actual QB to run their offense while hey had Regis in the middle at DT (now at Miami), they would have been nearly impossible to beat. Please dont mention Pahokee. I've seen them in the past and I saw them last night. Nice athletes at several of the skill spots but weak in the Big-Boys and "DEPTH."

Rankings don't mean a whole lot, but when you see 3 Florida teams in the Top 9 o National Polls are a joke. I've seen STA in person this year against a very weak South Plantation team. STA has a nice team but there is many 5A teams in Texas that are just as good and some are probably better. I would put any of the Texas Top 10 (5A's) up there with them today.

f the main poll then that does mean something. Our mediocre teams would have been .500 against other states middle of the pack teams (Miramar, Cypress would be in this category from last year). Our upper yet non elites such as Deerfield Beach, Naples, Lakeland (wasn't elite last year), Armwood (ran into Booker T. in the playoffs), Plant, Madison County, Apopka, Glades Central, Boone, St. Thomas (elitle this year), Nease, and Osceola would have beaten down almost any elite team from any state last year.

Now you've really lost your mind and lost just about any creditablity that you once had. That comment right there is a JOKE. BOONE ??? Osceola ??? much less a couple of others. PLEASSEEEEE.

This is really an argument I don't feel like having again though, I'm just saying look at those teams from last season and its obvious that last year was top-to-bottom one of the best years of Florida football in quite a few years.

You'll be able to look back in 6 years or so and see 20 new faces in the NFL from Florida, which is how good it was down here last year. Everyone knows last year was our year.

I'm sure Katy were monsters last year, but they don't beat MNW, You have NO clue either way. Katy and Euless Trintiy could of gone toe to toe with MNW. Just like SLC did for 48 minutes.


maybe St. Thomas, possibly Booker T., maybe Pahokee if they had an outstanding Pass D last year. All of these teams are VERY different than last year and all except St. Thomas are nowhere near where they all were last season.

Da West gave SLC plenty of chances while SLC had returning starters at many positions, trust me I get it, they did lose ALOT.

SLC was replacing almost their entire defense except 2 returning starters. Plus, they were without two starting O-lineman which were returners. Plus, SLC played almost an entire offensive series without Dodge at QB. With all of that they still lost to the World Dominate All-Almighty All-South Florida Team by freaking 8 pts. "WOOOOOO." 8 big whopping points, they were just way dominate DownSouth.

You guys still talked so much smack in the months lead up though, some of you still don't even give them credit for it even though it looks like they didn't lose another game until the 3rd round of the playoffs.

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[dada]

Kyle Hershfielder(sp) had perhaps one of the best Defensive plays of the game...after a katy score...the tigers kick off...speedy guy straight up he middle...then bounces to the outside....Kyle didnt run downfield...stayed back with kicker(Raul) as a saftey....Runner out in the open...Kyle is the last line of defense.....I'm thinking...oh no...if he get's past Kyle he's gone...Raul won't make the tackle....Hershfielder lays him OUT forcing a fumble....and Kyle is what? 5'5" 145 pounds?:notworthy

#2 for Cy Bay is a Stud on defense. Also...he had their longest play from scrimmage on offense...on 4th and 24....he had a 23 yard run.....Katy's run defense is pretty good......

[chunky79]

katy2007 was a legitimit team, no one could or would have beaten us. it just would not have happend

[dada]

katy2007 was a legitimit team, no one could or would have beaten us. it just would not have happend

I agree.....and everyone pulls the "they didnt play anyone" excuse...the 07 team didnt have a weakness...they were a threat to score on Offense, Defense and special teams.

[chunky79]

Kyle Hershfielder(sp) had perhaps one of the best Defensive plays of the game...after a katy score...the tigers kick off...speedy guy straight up he middle...then bounces to the outside....Kyle didnt run downfield...stayed back with kicker(Raul) as a saftey....Runner out in the open...Kyle is the last line of defense.....I'm thinking...oh no...if he get's past Kyle he's gone...Raul won't make the tackle....Hershfielder lays him OUT forcing a fumble....and Kyle is what? 5'5" 145 pounds?:notworthy

#2 for Cy Bay is a Stud on defense. Also...he had their longest play from scrimmage on offense...on 4th and 24....he had a 23 yard run.....Katy's run defense is pretty good......
im guessing yall cant wait til monday night

[chunky79]

I agree.....and everyone pulls the "they didnt play anyone" excuse...the 07 team didnt have a weakness...they were a threat to score on Offense, Defense and special teams.
1st play of the season basically tells it all. kickoff return for a TD, after that, we were unstoppable

[DownSouth]

LOL, please Florida fans need to quit with that. Anybody who did buy that bull outside of Florida doesn't anymore buy it anymore. Just because no worse than the 2nd best Florida team of all time(after only maybe the 2006 version) beat a Southlake team that had to replace 9 starters on D, 3 offensive linemen, and it's head coach by a measly 8 points clearly doesn't make Florida better than everyone else. Sorryhttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/CedarHillDad/iono.gif, the jig is up :laugh!

Riiiight, SLC was SO horrible. I'm sure they were the absolute WORST team that Texas has ever seen.

I'm surprised they found their way to the stadium and could dress themselves. I'm sure that QB that everybody would not shut up about has an extra chromosome which was a main reason for the loss.

Like Northwestern didn't have to replace starters on their end either, like their All-State running back.

Nope nothing like that.

[ftballin11]

Where do you grab that number?

We've been saying that CB was average and now you want to start up with this "Katy would have beat MNW" hypotheticals? Seriously?

Katy is very disciplined but wasn't that much of a talent overmatch for CB, style wise it was the worst possible front CB could have seen

You hanging your assumption on this Katy over a decent at best Cypress team (that will probably get torched next week) is the lamest way to say Katy of last year would take MNW. MNW would have put 70 on CB of this year (this being CB's best team ever) and 80 on last years team.

Cypress had a nice ranking in a VERY down 6A due to respect from their coach, Dillard and Boyd Anderson are 2 of the most idiotic teams you will ever see that combined had about 300 penalty yard against CB and still was close in the case of BA and Dillard gashed the D and put up 23.

Once again, it was alot of Texas fans that were the ones talking for months prior to MNW-SLC, when they lost it was "well they lost all of this" which I'm sure was true but to think that a win over CB (whose best season ever was last year's 10-2 which they were a 2nd round playoff loss 32-20, or something like that, to a North Miami Beach team that got smoked 49-0 today by John Curtis) means that MNW is somehow weaker is so beyond grasping for anything.

WOW, that with out a doubt is the biggest bunch of bull ive ever seen. I honestly think If the same SLC team that lost toMNW played them again later down the road, SLC woulda rolled them. They were Not a top team at the beginning of the year, which is why they had a close matchup with the Rockwall who is a decent team. But couldnt come close to a usual SLC team.

As for Katy? You said, they killed teams like Katy Last year. What kind of team is that. How would yall have beaten them? Passing it? Not likely since they had the best secondary in the nation if not the nation. A deffense that talented and that well coached would have sut MNW down. I honestly think it would have been a route. I would have bet my salary and felt very comfortable from what i saw in the game against SLC.

[Texasfrog]

LOL, please Florida fans need to quit with that. Anybody who did buy that bull outside of Florida doesn't anymore buy it anymore. Just because no worse than the 2nd best Florida team of all time(after only maybe the 2006 version) beat a Southlake team that had to replace 9 starters on D, 3 offensive linemen, and it's head coach by a measly 8 points clearly doesn't make Florida better than everyone else. Sorryhttp://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l107/CedarHillDad/iono.gif, the jig is up :laugh!

Trojan, You finally see the light with me huh.;)

I love all this crap on how All-World dominate the 2007 MNW team was and no one could play with them and they were the most dominate team ever and blah blah blah blah and all they did was beat SLC by a big whopping 8 pts. Wow, they were just crazy dominate werent they ??

I mean lets not talk about the fact they SLC had to replace almost their entire defense with Juniors and Somps. Let's not talk about the fact that SLC had to replace 2 starting O-line guys days before that game with the All-World Dominate MNW team.

A big whooping 8 pt victory over SLC and they believe that game proves how All-World dominate that MNW team was. All it really proves is they honestly dont know Jack-s about Texas football.

Of coarse we know that the 2007 Texas State Champs (Katy and ET) couldnt play with them.:rolleyes:

The Katy and ET team didnt have the athletes, talent, Depth, Size or Speed to compete with the 2007 MNW & BTW team.:rolleyes:

[ftballin11]

i dont know, they are going to have to replace another offensive line, i say the next time you see a run at state is 2010


I say this year. Would be a battle but definately feasable. I see them getting there, But i dont think they would have what it takes to hand with a passing attack like Caroll, it would have to be a run heavy.

[TrojanHorse03]

Riiiight, SLC was SO horrible. I'm sure they were the absolute WORST team that Texas has ever seen.

I'm surprised they found their way to the stadium and could dress themselves. I'm sure that QB that everybody would not shut up about has an extra chromosome which was a main reason for the loss.

Like Northwestern didn't have to replace starters on their end either, like their All-State running back.

Nope nothing like that.

I'm not disputing Miami Northwestern being a better team than Southlake at all. What I'm saying is contrary to the beliefs of some Floridians an all time team in 2007 Miami Northwestern's 8 point win over a 2007 Southlake who didn't win state in Texas does NOT equal Florida being better than Texas.

[HUM398]

Didn't think Humble was going D2. In any case, did they not lose big a few weeks ago? I know. So did Katy.

Yeah...we slipped up pretty badly, but we had 4 of our starters out. We are at 100% now, and ready to roll.

[DownSouth]

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I don't disagree with anything you said.

On one note, I made a point to say Boone and Osceola were NOT elite, just good to abover average.

I'm sure Euless and Katy and maybe even one more team would have been great and could have gone down to the final minute. I'm just saying I saw that MNW team play, and nobody would have had a an easy time with them.

I'm sure Euless, etc were on the same level, and that they'd be a #1 team in Fl THIS YEAR. Last year, no.

Try being MNW of last year and coming in ranked #2, going to another state against a team that was #1 (I know, they lost ALOT of guys) and see both sides turn it over 5 times each or so. Nobody except SLC fans thought it would be a blowouut, I sure didn't.

A note on Pahokee last year: That team was MUCH different, don't discount that. Regis plugged the middle as good as anyone, and they had a natural QB.

That teams depth last year was the guys you saw last night. They were legit.

[chunky79]

I don't disagree with anything you said.

On one note, I made a point to say Boone and Osceola were NOT elite, just good to abover average.

I'm sure Euless and Katy and maybe even one more team would have been great and could have gone down to the final minute. I'm just saying I saw that MNW team play, and nobody would have had a an easy time with them.

I'm sure Euless, etc were on the same level, and that they'd be a #1 team in Fl THIS YEAR. Last year, no.

Try being MNW of last year and coming in ranked #2, going to another state against a team that was #1 (I know, they lost ALOT of guys) and see both sides turn it over 5 times each or so. Nobody except SLC fans thought it would be a blowouut, I sure didn't.

A note on Pahokee last year: That team was MUCH different, don't discount that. Regis plugged the middle as good as anyone, and they had a natural QB.

That teams depth last year was the guys you saw last night. They were legit.

katy2007 would have beaten mnw. get over yourself. texas football is better than florida football

[DownSouth]

I'm not disputing Miami Northwestern being a better team than Southlake at all. What I'm saying is contrary to the beliefs of some Floridians an all time team in 2007 Miami Northwestern's 8 point win over a 2007 Southlake who didn't win state in Texas does NOT equal Florida being better than Texas.


I'm also saying that MNW was not our only good teams last year.

Just because they were the well known one does not mean they were the list.

That's all. Last year the team depth was there, alot of guys graduated and now its not, nor will it be until next year.

It happened statewide but hit the South the hardest which is why the best teams are found in the Tampa area and in Polk county.

Dade/Broward with the exception of STA is down moreso than I have seen in the last 7-8 years.

There is much more to that MNW game than to just say an "8 point win" and you know that so I won't even reignite that topic as this lame question of "Whose state is best" already seems to be brough tback from the dead since most of our B and C as well as some D level schools have all gone around the country and gotten their as#es handed to them.

Pahokee was our 1 legit good school even though they do play 2B. They are not within a country mile of last years team but do have athletes. Other than that we've sent a bunch of Cypress Bay's and even lesser to go against the OOS top schools (with the exception of Katy who is not ranked...yet).

[ftballin11]

I don't disagree with anything you said.

On one note, I made a point to say Boone and Osceola were NOT elite, just good to abover average.

I'm sure Euless and Katy and maybe even one more team would have been great and could have gone down to the final minute. I'm just saying I saw that MNW team play, and nobody would have had a an easy time with them.

I'm sure Euless, etc were on the same level, and that they'd be a #1 team in Fl THIS YEAR. Last year, no.

Try being MNW of last year and coming in ranked #2, going to another state against a team that was #1 (I know, they lost ALOT of guys) and see both sides turn it over 5 times each or so. Nobody except SLC fans thought it would be a blowouut, I sure didn't.

A note on Pahokee last year: That team was MUCH different, don't discount that. Regis plugged the middle as good as anyone, and they had a natural QB.

That teams depth last year was the guys you saw last night. They were legit.

Thats the thing on D-line youve gotta have depth when your playing a team like Katy or Trinity. They will wear you down. What if that stud Gets hurt or need a break?

You do know i think the Closest a team got to beating Katy was 17pts right. Against the the depth of Texas.

Even last year If you take the Top 50 from each state against Florida. Katy win 40 atleast.

[DownSouth]

katy2007 would have beaten mnw. get over yourself. texas football is better than florida football


If you refer to an earlier post you will see that I credit Texas as being the best state this year.

Sorry though, 07' Katy still loses to MNW. Maybe nobody else, but they def fall to Da West: neutral site, in Miami, in Texas.

This year's MNW though against Katy 07'? Yeah, that'd be bad...bad...bad. 41-14 Katy, but that's all that I can concede.

Rhode Island football is actually the best IMO.

[chunky79]

Thats the thing on D-line youve gotta have depth when your playing a team like Katy or Trinity. They will wear you down. What if that stud Gets hurt or need a break?

You do know i think the Closest a team got to beating Katy was 17pts right. Against the the depth of Texas.

Even last year If you take the Top 50 from each state against Florida. Katy win 40 atleast.
it was 11 points

[ftballin11]

it was 11 points

Oh yea was Hastings that close.

[DownSouth]

Thats the thing on D-line youve gotta have depth when your playing a team like Katy or Trinity. They will wear you down. What if that stud Gets hurt or need a break?

You do know i think the Closest a team got to beating Katy was 17pts right. Against the the depth of Texas.

Even last year If you take the Top 50 from each state against Florida. Katy win 40 atleast.


I could not agree with you more.

If you guys say (and defend) tht Katy was THAT good last year, then I take you at your word.

They sound like they were the best team in Texas last year.

I'll just let you know though, that I'll defend that Northwestern team as you guys do for that Katy team, its just state pride (even though I can't stand my state for almost everything else, LMAO).

Katy may have been the #2 team in Florida last year, I just don't think they were better than last years' MNW.

Only 3 teams came within 10 of them, 1 was SLC, the other was the 2nd game of the year 28-18, then in the regional final they won by 5 in what was essentially the title game as they won 41-0 in the ACTUAL state title game. Nothing else was below 20 something, most were 40 point differences.

Central came within 12, they were very talented and are rivals that also share the area's talent with MNW and Booker T.

I don't doubt 2007 Katy, I just trust 2007 MNW more.

[Texasfrog]

I'm also saying that MNW was not our only good teams last year.

MNW, BTW, Deerfield Beach and few others from around the State of Florida were good teams last year (2007). But, Katy, Euless Trinity, SLC, Abilene, Judson, Plano, Arlington Bowie and few others were top notch Texas teams that I promise you could of gone toe-toe with them. They would of lost some and they would of won some. That's a fact and the MNW vs SLC does nothing but reinforce that fact.;)

Just because they were the well known one does not mean they were the list.

That's all. Last year the team depth was there, alot of guys graduated and now its not, nor will it be until next year.

It happened statewide but hit the South the hardest which is why the best teams are found in the Tampa area and in Polk county. Texas doesnt seem to get hit hard like that. We play teams from Ohio, California, Louisiana and others and have done very well over the past 10 years for the most part. There has been a lot more Texas teams beat up Florida teams then vice versa over the past 10 years.;)

Also, Lakeland is still considered a top #10 Florida team and they've just had two tough wins against Boyd Anderson and Miami Killian. Boyd Anderson was beat by Cypress Bay and Miami Killian beat North Miami Beach by like 14 pts. Did you see what John Curtis did to North Miami Beach today ? 47-0 !!

Dade/Broward with the exception of STA is down moreso than I have seen in the last 7-8 years.

There is much more to that MNW game than to just say an "8 point win" and you know that so I won't even reignite that topic as this lame question of "Whose state is best" already seems to be brough tback from the dead since most of our B and C as well as some D level schools have all gone around the country and gotten their as#es handed to them.

Pahokee was our 1 legit good school even though they do play 2B. They are not within a country mile of last years team but do have athletes. Time well tell how Pahokee does this year. If I had to bet my money I would say they pretty walk to the State Titel game and win it this year


Other than that we've sent a bunch of Cypress Bay's and even lesser to go against the OOS top schools (with the exception of Katy who is not ranked...yet).

How do you think the Woodlands would do against St.Thomas Aquinas ? I mean STA is suppose to be like the #1, #2 or #3 team in the nation. Do you think the Woodlands could play with them DownSouth ? Much less North Shore and about 10 other Texas 5A teams like Plano, Euless Trinity.

Heck, how do you think this Katy team would do against St.Thomas Aquinas ?

[chunky79]

I could not agree with you more.

If you guys say (and defend) tht Katy was THAT good last year, then I take you at your word.

They sound like they were the best team in Texas last year.

I'll just let you know though, that I'll defend that Northwestern team as you guys do for that Katy team, its just state pride (even though I can't stand my state for almost everything else, LMAO).

Katy may have been the #2 team in Florida last year, I just don't think they were better than last years' MNW.

Only 3 teams came within 10 of them, 1 was SLC, the other was the 2nd game of the year 28-18, then in the regional final they won by 5 in what was essentially the title game as they won 41-0 in the state title game. Nothing else was below 20 something, most were 40 point differences.

Central came within 12, they were very talented and are rivals that also share the area's talent with MNW and Booker T.

I don't doubt 2007 Katy, I just trust 2007 MNW more.

trust me, katy 2007 was unstoppable. we would have beaten mnw

[DownSouth]

How do you think the Woodlands would do against St.Thomas Aquinas ? I mean STA is suppose to be like the #1, #2 or #3 team in the nation. Do you think the Woodlands could play with them DownSouth ? Much less North Shore and about 10 other Texas 5A teams like Plano, Euless Trinity.

Heck, how do you think this Katy team would do against St.Thomas Aquinas ?

Assuming on a neutral site.

Tell me a little bit about The Woodlands. Basics like what type of O and D scheme. I haven't heard about them before this year.

Right now Aquinas is ranked lower than Trinity so I'd say that would be a last minute winner type of game. I'd even give Trinity the edge. They sound like a college team from what I've read, same as STA.

Katy and North shore would be in over their heads. No doubt for me.

The Woodlands would possibly be in trouble too, STA has the depth, coaching, talent, and speed to be an ACTUAL top Texas team.

I'd say STA beats all of those except for Trinity which would be close if not a STA win.

Plano would be close but I think it would be in STA favor. North Shore and Katy would lose by 20+, ecspecially if Katy were to shoot themselves in the foot like they did today. STA isnt Cypress Bay, they make you pay for fumbles and sloppy play such as letting guys come in unblocked on punts, they have the guys to handle assignments and not get caught. Smith is the only coach who I would put above Guandolo down here.

STA is as legit as Trinity is. If there was a real tite game I'd say its honestly too close to call between those two.

[katytrain08]

Hey yall. 07 is over. Doesn't do anygood arguing who would win. There isn't any way wed find out because the game will never be played. Of course id say katy, my senior class, gotta go for em :). But its thhe 08 season now. Most teams graduated a lot of key players. Stats from each team only get us so far. People voting for who would win only gets us so far. All of us know the only way to know who would win is if the game was played. And it won't be. Though I wish it had been...

[DownSouth]

trust me, katy 2007 was unstoppable. we would have beaten mnw


I could say the same about Da West being unstoppable.

Well, they were.

Deerfield Beach was the only team to have them on the ropes, a last minute drive orchestrated by Jacory Harris in the final minute of the Regional Final pulled it out for them 19-14.

Deerfield was the only team to beat Aquinas last year.

[chunky79]

ok well our closest oppenent was 24-13.

[ftballin11]

ok well our closest oppenent was 24-13.

And not 1 game was in question going into the 4th quarter.

[chunky79]

66-21 semifinal game? seriously.

[Texasfrog]

Assuming on a neutral site.

Tell me a little bit about The Woodlands. Basics like what type of O and D scheme. I haven't heard about them before this year.

Right now Aquinas is ranked lower than Trinity so I'd say that would be a last minute winner type of game. I'd even give Trinity the edge. They sound like a college team from what I've read, same as STA.

Katy and North shore would be in over their heads. No doubt for me.

The Woodlands would possibly be in trouble too, STA has the depth, coaching, talent, and speed to be an ACTUAL top Texas team.

No disrespect, But I can tell you've havent seen the 2008 Woodlands team play. I've seen the Woodlands and STA this year in person and honestly I think the Woodlands would roll STA. Woodlands has a huge powerful O-line and a QB, RB, WR's that are all D-1A recruits.

There defense is big, strong , powerful and fast. Depth... Woodlands has much more DEPTH.

I'd say STA beats all of those except for Trinity which would be close if not a STA win. Trinity has already been tested here in Texas and will be tested several times before the State Titel game which they will have to fight like dogs to reach.

Plano would be close but I think it would be in STA favor. North Shore and Katy would lose by 20+, ecspecially if Katy were to shoot themselves in the foot like they did today. STA isnt Cypress Bay, they make you pay for fumbles and sloppy play such as letting guys come in unblocked on punts, they have the guys to handle assignments and not get caught. Smith is the only coach who I would put above Guandolo down here.

No way STA beats Katy by 20+. Not the Katy team that played against Cypress Bay today. Just like you say, Katy shot themselves in the foot several times today and still blew out Cypress Bay by 25 pts. Also, when I saw STA against a weak South Plantation team that I know Katy would of destroyed worse then they did Cypress Bay today. Katy would of beat that South Plantation team much like STA did. Plus, STA had a few turnovers against a weak South Plantation team. NOT LIKE THERE PERFECT

STA is as legit as Trinity is. If there was a real tite game I'd say its honestly too close to call between those two.
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[ftballin11]

I could not agree with you more.

If you guys say (and defend) tht Katy was THAT good last year, then I take you at your word.

They sound like they were the best team in Texas last year.

I'll just let you know though, that I'll defend that Northwestern team as you guys do for that Katy team, its just state pride (even though I can't stand my state for almost everything else, LMAO).

Katy may have been the #2 team in Florida last year, I just don't think they were better than last years' MNW.

Only 3 teams came within 10 of them, 1 was SLC, the other was the 2nd game of the year 28-18, then in the regional final they won by 5 in what was essentially the title game as they won 41-0 in the state title game. Nothing else was below 20 something, most were 40 point differences.

Central came within 12, they were very talented and are rivals that also share the area's talent with MNW and Booker T.

I don't doubt 2007 Katy, I just trust 2007 MNW more.

That was a good post. It is a pride thing and unfortunately we will never happen. In the words of Ron Burgandy, Agree to disagree.

[twcpfan1]

I can't believe some of you are revisiting MNW v SLC. MNW won. End of story. While some of you homers are whining that SLC had a new coach and had to replace players, MNW were the visiting team and had to replace their coaches as well under adverse circumstances. Let's face it. They played one one of the best Texas had to offer at their place and they won. And nobody knows whether Trinity or Katy could have beaten them. It can be argued that SLC was a tougher opponent than what ET and Katy faced all year. Stop trying to save face because of the arrogant predictions some of you made before the game. Just makes you look like ******s

[DownSouth]

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1. No disrespect, But I can tell you've havent seen the 2008 Woodlands team play. I've seen the Woodlands and STA this year in person and honestly I think the Woodlands would roll STA. Woodlands has a huge powerful O-line and a QB, RB, WR's that are all D-1A recruits.

2. There defense is big, strong , powerful and fast. Depth... Woodlands has much more DEPTH.



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3. No way STA beats Katy by 20+. Not the Katy team that played against Cypress Bay today. Just like you say, Katy shot themselves in the foot several times today and still blew out Cypress Bay by 25 pts. Also, when I saw STA against a weak South Plantation team that I know Katy would of destroyed worse then they did Cypress Bay today. Katy would of beat that South Plantation team much like STA did. Plus, STA had a few turnovers against a weak South Plantation team. NOT LIKE THERE PERFECT



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1. Like I said, I'd never heard of The Woodlands before they smoked Katy 47-0, but everything you said is an EXACT description of STA. Becker sat out against S. Plantation just to make sure there's no confusion there.

STA has Difton and Duron Carter at WR, D1, fast, strog, Duron is 6'3". STA goes 3 deep at tailbcak so much so that a couple guys transferred to other schools because they just weren't going to make the rotation, top guys not scrubs. Gio Bernard will be a national Top 15 back next year. They ALWAYS have a monster O-line, this year they have Brandon Linder who will be a Top center next year, the kid is an animal.

2. Nobody has more depth than St. Thomas, and you have no idea how much I hate complimenting these guys, but I won't BS, they are everything tht Cane says they are.

Their D might be a little soft up front, but they have the depth to keep guys fresh while they have D1 guys at corner and linebacker.

This sounds very even to me. High scoring and hard hitting. I'll still take STA because I know whatthey have done and will always do. That does clear up The Woodlans a bit though, STA plays great no matter what but put them against a Top team and tell them they're the underdog and you're looking for trouble.

3. Frog, STA IS NOT Cypress. You know that man, and you know that CB would lose to STA by about a 40-10 score. As a CB alum I'll concede that. Like I already said though, Becker sat out against South Plantation, that was the backup QB so they ran the entire time.

Trust me on this if this only, Aquinas is far superior to the Katy team we saw today. STA would not be running sideline-sideline, they go straight ahead and they HIT, that O-line of theirs is the strongest physically and cohesively in South Florida.

Trust, Aquinas would be too much.

[Texasfrog]

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1. No disrespect, But I can tell you've havent seen the 2008 Woodlands team play. I've seen the Woodlands and STA this year in person and honestly I think the Woodlands would roll STA. Woodlands has a huge powerful O-line and a QB, RB, WR's that are all D-1A recruits.

2. There defense is big, strong , powerful and fast. Depth... Woodlands has much more DEPTH.



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3. No way STA beats Katy by 20+. Not the Katy team that played against Cypress Bay today. Just like you say, Katy shot themselves in the foot several times today and still blew out Cypress Bay by 25 pts. Also, when I saw STA against a weak South Plantation team that I know Katy would of destroyed worse then they did Cypress Bay today. Katy would of beat that South Plantation team much like STA did. Plus, STA had a few turnovers against a weak South Plantation team. NOT LIKE THERE PERFECT



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1. Like I said, I'd never heard of The Woodlands before they smoked Katy 47-0, but everything you said is an EXACT description of STA. Becker sat out against S. Plantation just to make sure there's no confusion there.

STA has Difton and Duron Carter at WR, D1, fast, strog, Duron is 6'3". STA goes 3 deep at tailbcak so much so that a couple guys transferred to other schools because they just weren't going to make the rotation, top guys not scrubs. Gio Bernard will be a national Top 15 back next year. They ALWAYS have a monster O-line, this year they have Brandon Linder who will be a Top center next year, the kid is an animal.

2. Nobody has more depth than St. Thomas, and you have no idea how much I hate complimenting these guys, but I won't BS, they are everything tht Cane says they are.

Their D might be a little soft up front, but they have the depth to keep guys fresh while they have D1 guys at corner and linebacker.

This sounds very even to me. High scoring and hard hitting. I'll still take STA because I know whatthey have done and will always do. That does clear up The Woodlans a bit though, STA plays great no matter what but put them against a Top team and tell them they're the underdog and you're looking for trouble.

3. Frog, STA IS NOT Cypress. You know that man, and you know that CB would lose to STA by about a 40-10 score. As a CB alum I'll concede that. Like I already said though, Becker sat out against South Plantation, that was the backup QB so they ran the entire time.

Trust me on this if this only, Aquinas is far superior to the Katy team we saw today. STA would not be running sideline-sideline, they go straight ahead and they HIT, that O-line of theirs is the strongest physically and cohesively in South Florida.

Trust, Aquinas would be too much.

DSouth,

I know what STA has. I've seen them play (IN PERSON) this year. I know what kind of kids they have and I know what kind of DEPTH they have.

First, Becker didnt sat out againt South Plantation. You know how I know this ? I was at the game. He got hurt on the last play of the half and sat out the 2nd half. The backup QB wasnt very good.

South Plantaton isnt very good. Your kidding yourself if you think they are. katy would of destroyed that team every bit as much as STA did. 100% No Doubt about it.

South Plantation has "ZERO PASSING GAME" and a weak O-line and really not very good RB's or QB. There defense is "AVERAGE" at best.

If you dont think Katy wouldnt rock South Plantation's World that crazy.

STA might beat Katy. But, no way, no how do they just push Katy off the field. Katy has the O-line and RB's to move the ball on STA and Katy's defense is pretty stout. You can spin-it all you want but Cypress Bay was averaging 35 pts a game and almost 350 yards a game in Broward Co.

Katy kept them to 6 pts and 140 yards of offense.;) DONT TELL ME HOW STA WOULD DOMINATE KATY ,,,PLEASE.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Next, The Woodlands has a very powerful team this year. STA has nothing on the DEPTH of the Woodlands. The Woodlands has a roster of almost a 100 kids on Varsity and have a QB, RB, WR's and several O-line kids that are D-1A prospects. They have a few kids on their defense that will sign D-1A ships.

The Woodlands has the Depth, Size, Speed and Skill from Top too Bottom that STA has and maybe honestly more. Honeslty you just dont know much about the Woodlands... "no disrespect to ya."

I'll tell you this much... Katy is just as good as the OHio (Elder team) that gave STA a pretty stiff game.;)

[Canes0177]

you sir, fail. katy2007 would have murdered all florida teams

Please!

LOL.

Northwestern feasted on teams like Katy.

[Texasfrog]

DownSouth,

In case you doubt me. This is off of STA site. I cut it out.

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St. Thomas (3-0) led 24-3 at halftime, and even thought it played without senior quarterback Ryan Becker in the second half, it generated 176 yards of offense and extended its to 38-10.


Becker, who completed 9 of 13 passes for 94 yards and a touchdown, sustained an ankle injury in the first half(Last Play of the half, I was there)[/B] and was replaced by sophomore Jacob Rudock.

Aquinas' passing game stalled, and Rudock finished with two completions for 9 yards on five attempts. Becker is expected back for next week's game against District 16-5A rival Hollywood Hills.
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Yes, I think Katy would beat South Plantation by a score very similiar to STA 38-10 score.

Cypress Bay is a better team then South Plantation.;);) Katy dominated them.

[Canes0177]

Dude..you've been saying that all year on 3 different boards that I know of

And it's been true every time I've said it.

You people act like SLC was just some team that went 11-2.

The facts will always be in disagreement with the majority of people on this board.

[Canes0177]

You are without any shadow of a doubt the biggest IDIOT on this board.

Now all the sudden the 2007 MNW would of tore up the 2007 Katy team. Wow, ok.:rolleyes:

If you thought todays Katy team that beat the snot out of the #3 ranked South Florida team (Cy-Bay) 31-6, was good . You should of seen last years Katy team IDIOT.

They would of gone "toe to toe' with the mighty #1 team in South Florida history.:rolleyes:

So would about 3 or 4 other Texas teams last year.

The World renownd MNW teams SLC by 8 pts and all the sudden they were a mighty World Power. :rolleyes:

All we know right now is the South Florida teams have been gettting crushed all year except the STA win against the mighty World renowned Elder team from OHio.:rolleyes:

They certainly raise em' dumber in Texas.

Northwestern playing against an I-form team? Are you kidding? Forston, Spence and company would have walked to Texas to play somebody like Katy.

Again, the 2006 Northwestern team was better by every measure. Only you and others on this board refuse to see that.

Elder is 6-0 against teams not named STA.

[Texasfrog]

Katy shocks Lightning

By Sam Khan Jr. | Special Correspondent
October 5, 2008


KATY, Texas - Cypress Bay rolled into Katy looking to continue its early-season success with a fourth straight win. Instead, the Lightning ran into a brick wall.

The Lightning offense, which was dominant in a win over Western last week, could only manage 134 yards of offense on Saturday as it fell to the Katy (Texas) Tigers 31-6 at Rhodes Stadium.

"We didn't come to play today," Lightning coach Mark Guandolo said. "We don't have any excuses. We got outplayed, outcoached, the whole deal."

The only touchdown the Lightning (3-1) managed came on a 10-yard run by senior running back Craig Dee, after a blocked punt by C.J. Ullysse set the Lightning up with great field position at the Katy 19-yard line.

Luke Bray's extra-point attempt, however, was blocked, and with 9:40 left in the second quarter, Cypress Bay trailed 7-6, as close as it would be for the remainder of the game.

Katy fullback Chris Roberson rolled for a 48-yard touchdown run later in the quarter to give the Tigers a 14-6 lead with 1:49 left in the first half.

The game remained that way until the fourth quarter, when Katy (3-2) blew it open with a 55-yard touchdown pass from Parker Ray to Taylor Brandt, a 21-yard field goal by Raul Balbuena and a 1-yard run by Jonathan Barnette that was set up by a 24-yard interception return by defensive back Sam Holl.

The Lightning only converted 20 percent of its third-down conversion attempts (3 for 15) and averaged just 2.2 yards per run.

It only picked up one first down in the second and third quarters and had only seven for the game.

"In our offense you have to get some first downs and you have to set things up," Guandolo said.

"We just couldn't get it going. When you go three-and-out, you can't set anything up. [Katy] was defeating their blocks — we weren't staying on our blocks enough."

[Canes0177]

Praytell what is it about "teams like Katy" that you so nonchallantly dismiss them so?

Style of play? Personell? I'm not dismissing it wasn't possible but if you're going to throw our state-champ under the bus atleast come with some facts to base your opinions from.

Plain, I-form, Big running back.

Katy can push around somebody like Cypress Bay or Pflugerville but against Northwestern they would've had a mighty task.

And I saw the schedule Katy played last year.

Not exactly Murderers Row.

[Canes0177]

Cane doesn't understand that when you play these top level teams(any state) you'd better be packing some good "line" play....Offense and Defense...I don't care how many 4.4 kids you have...

I certainly do understand.

Do you know who Northwestern had on their lines that year?

[katyfan52]

Plain, I-form, Big running back.

Katy can push around somebody like Cypress Bay or Pflugerville but against Northwestern they would've had a mighty task.

And I saw the schedule Katy played last year.

Not exactly Murderers Row.

But did you see Katy play last year?

[RidgePride]

And it's been true every time I've said it.

You people act like SLC was just some team that went 11-2.

The facts will always be in disagreement with the majority of people on this board.

IMO SLC was a top 5 team in TX last year. I think they were either number 4 or 5.

If MNW played in TX last year there would have been 3 teams that would have had their chances to beat them. I am not saying they would have beaten them, just that the games would be undecided until the last 5 minutes.

I think Katy and MNW would have been a toss up. Like Deion and Micheal Irvin both said, Florida has the greatest athletes, but TX has the best football programs.

MNW was a rare breed in High school football last year.

[Canes0177]

Quote from Frog:

National Polls are a joke. I've seen STA in person this year against a very weak South Plantation team. STA has a nice team but there is many 5A teams in Texas that are just as good and some are probably better. I would put any of the Texas Top 10 (5A's) up there with them today.

South Plantation is 3-0 against teams not named STA.

STA also played the entire second half with a sophomore QB who had never started a game before.

If stupidity was currency Frog would be a rich man.

[Canes0177]

IMO SLC was a top 5 team in TX last year. I think they were either number 4 or 5.

If MNW played in TX last year there would have been 3 teams that would have had their chances to beat them. I am not saying they would have beaten them, just that the games would be undecided until the last 5 minutes.

I think Katy and MNW would have been a toss up. Like Deion and Micheal Irvin both said, Florida has the greatest athletes, but TX has the best football programs.

MNW was a rare breed in High school football.

A rare breed that wouldn't under any circumstance have lost to Katy.

One of the most prolific offenses in Texas history was held to 14 points and as shut out in the 2nd half by that MNW defense.

[Canes0177]

WOW, that with out a doubt is the biggest bunch of bull ive ever seen. I honestly think If the same SLC team that lost toMNW played them again later down the road, SLC woulda rolled them. They were Not a top team at the beginning of the year, which is why they had a close matchup with the Rockwall who is a decent team. But couldnt come close to a usual SLC team.

As for Katy? You said, they killed teams like Katy Last year. What kind of team is that. How would yall have beaten them? Passing it? Not likely since they had the best secondary in the nation if not the nation. A deffense that talented and that well coached would have sut MNW down. I honestly think it would have been a route. I would have bet my salary and felt very comfortable from what i saw in the game against SLC.

I'd feel bad taking food off your family's table.

That's the dumbest bet I've ever heard somebody say they'd make.

[Canes0177]

Trojan, You finally see the light with me huh.;)

I love all this crap on how All-World dominate the 2007 MNW team was and no one could play with them and they were the most dominate team ever and blah blah blah blah and all they did was beat SLC by a big whopping 8 pts. Wow, they were just crazy dominate werent they ??

I mean lets not talk about the fact they SLC had to replace almost their entire defense with Juniors and Somps. Let's not talk about the fact that SLC had to replace 2 starting O-line guys days before that game with the All-World Dominate MNW team.

A big whooping 8 pt victory over SLC and they believe that game proves how All-World dominate that MNW team was. All it really proves is they honestly dont know Jack-s about Texas football.

Of coarse we know that the 2007 Texas State Champs (Katy and ET) couldnt play with them.:rolleyes:

The Katy and ET team didnt have the athletes, talent, Depth, Size or Speed to compete with the 2007 MNW & BTW team.:rolleyes:

That's hilarious.

You're the ones who have been talking about how amazing that MNW team was and how they were the best team, like, EVER!

But now they're just a normal team that would've lost to Katy.

Sound logic.

8 points being the biggest margin of victory over an SLC team since 2001.

How about this. When somebody from Texas beats SLC by more than 8 points give me a call, OK?

Deal?

[Texasfrog]

Downsouth,

South Plantaton- 26
Western - 14

Cypress Bay - 35
Western - 3

Yes, I think Cypress Bay is a better team then South Plantation.;)

PS. Cypress Bay would of beaten Western much worse but rested Jason Douglass for most of the second half.

So yes, I think Katy would of destroyed South Plantation much like STA did (38-10).

[Canes0177]

I don't disagree with anything you said.

On one note, I made a point to say Boone and Osceola were NOT elite, just good to abover average.

I'm sure Euless and Katy and maybe even one more team would have been great and could have gone down to the final minute. I'm just saying I saw that MNW team play, and nobody would have had a an easy time with them.

I'm sure Euless, etc were on the same level, and that they'd be a #1 team in Fl THIS YEAR. Last year, no.

Try being MNW of last year and coming in ranked #2, going to another state against a team that was #1 (I know, they lost ALOT of guys) and see both sides turn it over 5 times each or so. Nobody except SLC fans thought it would be a blowouut, I sure didn't.

A note on Pahokee last year: That team was MUCH different, don't discount that. Regis plugged the middle as good as anyone, and they had a natural QB.

That teams depth last year was the guys you saw last night. They were legit.

Play the same game with Katy's schedule.

Who did they beat that was elite?

STA beat undefeated teams in both the state semifinals and state championship.

Katy beat a 4-loss Pflugerville team.

[chunky79]

I can't believe some of you are revisiting MNW v SLC. MNW won. End of story. While some of you homers are whining that SLC had a new coach and had to replace players, MNW were the visiting team and had to replace their coaches as well under adverse circumstances. Let's face it. They played one one of the best Texas had to offer at their place and they won. And nobody knows whether Trinity or Katy could have beaten them. It can be argued that SLC was a tougher opponent than what ET and Katy faced all year. Stop trying to save face because of the arrogant predictions some of you made before the game. Just makes you look like ******s
no, katy2007 would have won

[Canes0177]

I could not agree with you more.

If you guys say (and defend) tht Katy was THAT good last year, then I take you at your word.

They sound like they were the best team in Texas last year.

I'll just let you know though, that I'll defend that Northwestern team as you guys do for that Katy team, its just state pride (even though I can't stand my state for almost everything else, LMAO).

Katy may have been the #2 team in Florida last year, I just don't think they were better than last years' MNW.

Only 3 teams came within 10 of them, 1 was SLC, the other was the 2nd game of the year 28-18, then in the regional final they won by 5 in what was essentially the title game as they won 41-0 in the ACTUAL state title game. Nothing else was below 20 something, most were 40 point differences.

Central came within 12, they were very talented and are rivals that also share the area's talent with MNW and Booker T.

I don't doubt 2007 Katy, I just trust 2007 MNW more.

You take these people at their word?

LOL.

My sister lives in Austin. I've been through Katy. I have friends who live in Katy.

Their district is awful. Their schedule last year was ho-hum.

They didn't play anybody that would be any different than who STA or MNW played.

[chunky79]

You take these people at their word?

LOL.

My sister lives in Austin. I've been through Katy. I have friends who live in Katy.

Their district is awful. Their schedule last year was ho-hum.

They didn't play anybody that would be any different than who STA or MNW played.
ive been harping all along how 17-5a sucks. katy is the only bright spot, blah blah blah. it's true. but cmon, thats not our fault. its not our fault who we played. we just went out there and beat the living crap outta everyone. our district sucks, yes. but look at our non district scores
45-0
48-7
42-0
51-18
42-7
30-14
42-0
66-21
28-7

[chunky79]

MNW, BTW, Deerfield Beach and few others from around the State of Florida were good teams last year (2007). But, Katy, Euless Trinity, SLC, Abilene, Judson, Plano, Arlington Bowie and few others were top notch Texas teams that I promise you could of gone toe-toe with them. They would of lost some and they would of won some. That's a fact and the MNW vs SLC does nothing but reinforce that fact.

Also, I'm sick of the Euless Trinity bit.

They lost by 4 touchdowns to phucking Permian last year.

I couldn't tell you the last time a Florida state champion lost a game by 4 touchdowns.

Again, when somebody beats SLC by more than 8 let me know.

thats why katy07 is better than ET07. ET did improve and went on to win the state championship, but if texas had a super champion, katy would have won. we(katy) wanted to play SLC. we wanted it so bad. but they lost to abiliene who then lost to pflugerville. MNW didnt play the best team from texas last year, the best team from texas last year was katy

[Canes0177]

There has been a lot more Texas teams beat up Florida teams then vice versa over the past 10 years.

1997
Southridge 19, Carter 0

1998
Southridge 32, Carter 13
Lamar 24, Rutherford 21

1999
Aledo 24, South Fork 0

2000
Bridgeport 27, Niceville 16

2001
Niceville 51, Bridgeport 7

2002
Mosley 37, Gulf Shores 7
Rutherford 45, Gulf Shores 34

2003
Palatka 32, Gulf Shores 12

2004
Gulf Shores 38, Palatka 10

2005
Lee 31, Chaminade 28

2007
Northwestern 29, Carroll 21

2008
Katy 31, Cypress Bay 6

7-6 in favor of Florida.

Are there any that I'm missing?

If not I have a serious question for Frog.

Is there anything that you won't lie about? Or do you honestly not know anything that you speak about?

[Canes0177]

ive been harping all along how 17-5a sucks. katy is the only bright spot, blah blah blah. it's true. but cmon, thats not our fault. its not our fault who we played. we just went out there and beat the living crap outta everyone. our district sucks, yes. but look at our non district scores
45-0
48-7
42-0
51-18
42-7
30-14
42-0
66-21
28-7

I'm not blaming Katy for their bad schedule.

I'm just pointing out that it wasn't that good.

Klein (7-4)
The Woodlands (3-7)
A&M Consolidated (5-5)
------
Strake Jesuit (8-2)
Houston Madison (7-4)
Pasadena Memorial (9-2)
Fort Bend Clements (13-0)
San Antonio Madison (13-1)
Pflugerville (12-3)

It took them 13 games to play a team that won 10 or more games.

[chunky79]

I'm not blaming Katy for their bad schedule.

I'm just pointing out that it wasn't that good.

Klein (7-4)
The Woodlands (3-7)
A&M Consolidated (5-5)
------
Strake Jesuit (8-2)
Houston Madison (7-4)
Pasadena Memorial (9-2)
Fort Bend Clements (13-0)
San Antonio Madison (13-1)
Pflugerville (12-3)

It took them 13 games to play a team that won 10 or more games.

well thats why i like the playoff system, because the team that has the better record doesnt make them the best team. whoever wins the game that day is the better team. and at the end of the day, we won all of our games. so i think that would make us the better team. so it's not our fault we didnt play anyone worthy. i honestly think we would not have lost to anyone. MNW, or any florida team. i honestly think we were a very special team

[DownSouth]

DSouth,

I know what STA has. I've seen them play (IN PERSON) this year. I know what kind of kids they have and I know what kind of DEPTH they have.

First, Becker didnt sat out againt South Plantation. You know how I know this ? I was at the game. He got hurt on the last play of the half and sat out the 2nd half. The backup QB wasnt very good.

South Plantaton isnt very good. Your kidding yourself if you think they are. katy would of destroyed that team every bit as much as STA did. 100% No Doubt about it.

South Plantation has "ZERO PASSING GAME" and a weak O-line and really not very good RB's or QB. There defense is "AVERAGE" at best.

If you dont think Katy wouldnt rock South Plantation's World that crazy.

STA might beat Katy. But, no way, no how do they just push Katy off the field. Katy has the O-line and RB's to move the ball on STA and Katy's defense is pretty stout. You can spin-it all you want but Cypress Bay was averaging 35 pts a game and almost 350 yards a game in Broward Co.

Katy kept them to 6 pts and 140 yards of offense.;) DONT TELL ME HOW STA WOULD DOMINATE KATY ,,,PLEASE.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Next, The Woodlands has a very powerful team this year. STA has nothing on the DEPTH of the Woodlands. The Woodlands has a roster of almost a 100 kids on Varsity and have a QB, RB, WR's and several O-line kids that are D-1A prospects. They have a few kids on their defense that will sign D-1A ships.

The Woodlands has the Depth, Size, Speed and Skill from Top too Bottom that STA has and maybe honestly more. Honeslty you just dont know much about the Woodlands... "no disrespect to ya."

I'll tell you this much... Katy is just as good as the OHio (Elder team) that gave STA a pretty stiff game.;)


My mistake about Becker. Half of a game is a big deal though. You know thought that they were going to play on coast anyway as yes, S. Plan. is bad, I'd put them as slightly "better" than Western. Well, not that bad, they just haven't played anybody good except for Aquinas.

I never said South Plantation was good, ever, they play horrible competition. We'll see more of what they really can do against DB, BA, and CB.

I said Katy wouldn't beat STA, of course they'd kill S. Plan. Cypress Bay will kill S. Plan. when they play in Novemeber, they'll win 27-7 or around that.

About Elder though, that was STA's opener against a team that had already played I think 3 games, they weren't clicking at all until the second half, and you saw what happened there with Difton going 90 yards at the start of the third.

The Woodlands can't possbly play 100 kids every game can they?:cool:

Aquinas must have about 80, Cane probably knows more there than I do.

I won't spin the CB loss as there's no point, Katy is more complete.

Although, the reason Katy was able to stop the run so well is discipline. Very simple. I typed this somewhere on another thread, maybe this one.

In Broward and Dade as you know, a defense is usually a bunch of 6'2" 200 pound 4.4. running linebackers with some jacked D ends and quick darting corners...that have ZERO discipline.

Look at their 2 wins (I think we can agree to not even bother to factor the Western game)

Against Dillard, CRAZY athletes that ALL SELL OUT on every play, no team concept. Very easy to catch off guard and they did. All Dillard wanted to do was knock someone's helmet off and lay big hits, NOBODY stay home unlike Katy who does EXACTLY what they are assigned to do. Very smart, near impossible to fool.

Look at Boyd Anderson, you know how many penalties get thrown against them so you know how me first they all are. See Dillard and multiply by 3.

The Cypress game plan fell apart to Katy being far superior mentally to any team they've seen this year. Not having a quality QB hurt CB as well, had they had a QB capable of delivering a throw on a line then they make the adjustment and its much, much closer.

All the credit to Katy for staying home and not beating themselves, well, on defense at least, they left alot of points on the field due to the offense.

When you only face teams that don't understand team play then you are walking into a buzz saw. That's why CB got crushed, Katy was able to surprise them not with talent level or overwhelming skill but with maturity and not going for personal glory, something CB has not seen at all this year.

The only overt mismatch that I saw in skill was the Katy D line over the CB O line. That was nowhere close. The CB QB is awful, always has been.

The Katy D line slightly outmatched the CB O line and looked great due to their patience in waiting for the play to develop before attacking, once again, something that line has not expierienced.

Katy is an entirely different style of team that CB has every played. Classic Texas against a Florida team that is still searching for its identity.

It may turn out that the biggest loss for Cypress may in fact be their D coordinator going over to Killian at the end of last season. There's a reason why the current D coord. is no longer the headcoach at Western...yes, THAT Western (in all fairness they were pretty good for a couple of years 2001-2004, lots of big mean rednecks on that O and D line...before he drove them into the ground that is).

[chunky79]

and what a long journey home

[Canes0177]

DSouth,

I know what STA has. I've seen them play (IN PERSON) this year. I know what kind of kids they have and I know what kind of DEPTH they have.

First, Becker didnt sat out againt South Plantation. You know how I know this ? I was at the game. He got hurt on the last play of the half and sat out the 2nd half. The backup QB wasnt very good.

South Plantaton isnt very good. Your kidding yourself if you think they are. katy would of destroyed that team every bit as much as STA did. 100% No Doubt about it.

South Plantation has "ZERO PASSING GAME" and a weak O-line and really not very good RB's or QB. There defense is "AVERAGE" at best.

If you dont think Katy wouldnt rock South Plantation's World that crazy.

STA might beat Katy. But, no way, no how do they just push Katy off the field. Katy has the O-line and RB's to move the ball on STA and Katy's defense is pretty stout. You can spin-it all you want but Cypress Bay was averaging 35 pts a game and almost 350 yards a game in Broward Co.

Katy kept them to 6 pts and 140 yards of offense.;) DONT TELL ME HOW STA WOULD DOMINATE KATY ,,,PLEASE.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Next, The Woodlands has a very powerful team this year. STA has nothing on the DEPTH of the Woodlands. The Woodlands has a roster of almost a 100 kids on Varsity and have a QB, RB, WR's and several O-line kids that are D-1A prospects. They have a few kids on their defense that will sign D-1A ships.

The Woodlands has the Depth, Size, Speed and Skill from Top too Bottom that STA has and maybe honestly more. Honeslty you just dont know much about the Woodlands... "no disrespect to ya."

I'll tell you this much... Katy is just as good as the OHio (Elder team) that gave STA a pretty stiff game.;)

Now I know you're just lost.

South Plantation's RB Marcus Thompson was a beast. He left the game with an injury but he was every bit as good as they said he was.

A 3-7 team from last year has more depth than STA?

There might not be a person in this country knowledgeable about high school football who would agree with you.

Do you even know how many D1 kids we have every year? Do you understand how many kids we dress on varsity? Do you know how much talent Broward County puts out every year?

[Canes0177]

1. No disrespect, But I can tell you've havent seen the 2008 Woodlands team play. I've seen the Woodlands and STA this year in person and honestly I think the Woodlands would roll STA. Woodlands has a huge powerful O-line and a QB, RB, WR's that are all D-1A recruits.

These are the guys you think are D1 recruits?

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=2&nid=9176&yr=2008

I don't think you want to compare athlete to athlete and lineman to lineman.

[RidgePride]

A rare breed that wouldn't under any circumstance have lost to Katy.

One of the most prolific offenses in Texas history was held to 14 points and as shut out in the 2nd half by that MNW defense.

MNW was better than SLC no question at all. In my opinion so was Katy, Trinity, and Plano.
Big Whoop! There is a chance MNW would have beaten every team in TX last year. So What? They were the freakin mini Hurricanes and not at all indicative of the NORM in Florida football. Every so often that special team rolls through and Florida was lucky to be able to showcase that team last year. Having said that, I think Katy would have had their chances and it would have been a closer game than the SLC game. Plano and Trinity also would have had a nail biter game against MNW.

[cyfallsbooster2]

Well, I was going to congratulate the Katy Tigers for their well deserved win over the OOS team, but from reading this page of the thread I am too late and no one would care.

(Congrats, Katy! Great job!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy)

[Miss Kitty]

Well, I was going to congratulate the Katy Tigers for their well deserved win over the OOS team, but from reading this page of the thread I am too late and no one would care.

(Congrats, Katy! Great job!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy)

I care, and thank you. :)

[rwilleby]

Well, I was going to congratulate the Katy Tigers for their well deserved win over the OOS team, but from reading this page of the thread I am too late and no one would care.

(Congrats, Katy! Great job!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy)

Thanks... and I'll be glad when your November avatar gets here...

[Hitman49]

MNW, BTW, Deerfield Beach and few others from around the State of Florida were good teams last year (2007). But, Katy, Euless Trinity, SLC, Abilene, Judson, Plano, Arlington Bowie and few others were top notch Texas teams that I promise you could of gone toe-toe with them. They would of lost some and they would of won some. That's a fact and the MNW vs SLC does nothing but reinforce that fact.

Also, I'm sick of the Euless Trinity bit.

They lost by 4 touchdowns to phucking Permian last year.

I couldn't tell you the last time a Florida state champion lost a game by 4 touchdowns.

Again, when somebody beats SLC by more than 8 let me know.

1 point or 8 points it is still just a one position game. Also, that same Trinity team came back in the playoffs and basically reversed that score against Permian.

You need to show your respect to Permian, they have had many teams over the years that would smoke any Phucking team from Florida.

[BayouBoy34]

Well - I awake this morning to read 8 pages of people predictiing who would have won the 2007 Florida/Texas State Championship Challenge. OMG. There is no such game - never will be. If there ever was such a game - YOU NEVER NEVER KNOW THE OUTCOME UNTIL YOU PLAY THE GAME. Who would have thought Oregon State would have beaten USC this year or Stanford beating USC last year or...........

YOu guys can argue this until the 2nd Coming. No one knows who will win a game until the game is played. Jeez. I get dizzy just reading this stuff.

[Texasfrog]

My mistake about Becker. Half of a game is a big deal though. You know thought that they were going to play on coast anyway as yes, S. Plan. is bad, No problem, everyone makes mistakes on here. Yes, S. Plantation is bad. They would get smoked by every team in Katy's District and so would Western HS. That's why I laugh when someone like Canie tries to "spin-it" that Katy's District sucks. I want to laugh because 90% of the teams STA plays against suck much worse.

I'd put them as slightly "better" than Western. Well, not that bad, they just haven't played anybody good except for Aquinas. South Plantation is better then Western, but not by much. They have a few more athletes.

I never said South Plantation was good, ever, they play horrible competition. We'll see more of what they really can do against DB, BA, and CB. Their going to get beat bigtime. DB, BA and CB are much better teams then South Plantation. But, DB, BA and CB are also 3 of the strongest teams in South Florida.

I said Katy wouldn't beat STA, of course they'd kill S. Plan. Cypress Bay will kill S. Plan. when they play in Novemeber, they'll win 27-7 or around that. Again, STA might beat Katy this year. My point is they wouldnt smoke Katy by a damn site. That game would go deep into the 4th QT and probably wins the turnover war wins the game. It would be a dogfight game because both teams have size, speed, skill and coaching. STA has more Bluechip athletes then Katy but so did Cypress Bay.;)

About Elder though, that was STA's opener against a team that had already played I think 3 games, they weren't clicking at all until the second half, and you saw what happened there with Difton going 90 yards at the start of the third. Agree, samething with Katy in many regards. Their clicking better now then in Week #1 or #2. But, that Elder (Ohio team) doenst have anything on Katy. Katy has the size, depth, speed, skill and coaching.


The Woodlands can't possbly play 100 kids every game can they?:cool: No they cant, only 11 kids just like STA. My point is they have a lot of great depth and they have the skill, speed and athletes, depth, talent and coaching that is just as good as STA. STA has many D-1A prospects and guess what... So does the Woodlands. They (Woodlands) are the best team that I've seen (In person) this year.

Aquinas must have about 80, Cane probably knows more there than I do. Dont worry about him, I'll tell you right from the game Programs that I got.

Woodlands= 86 Varsity Players ( 42 Sr, 38 Jr, 6 So).
St.Thomas= 81 Varsity Players ( 38 Sr, 32 Jr, 11 So).

I won't spin the CB loss as there's no point, Katy is more complete.

Although, the reason Katy was able to stop the run so well is discipline. Very simple. I typed this somewhere on another thread, maybe this one.

In Broward and Dade as you know, a defense is usually a bunch of 6'2" 200 pound 4.4. running linebackers with some jacked D ends and quick darting corners...that have ZERO discipline. Agreed 100% ! I said this last year and got blasted almost off this board because I was a Texas guy saying it. The discipline is lacking and I blame much of it on the caliber of coaching in South Florida. It's not the lack of athletes.;)

Look at their 2 wins (I think we can agree to not even bother to factor the Western game) Yes, and I'm not knocking Western but they wouldnt even be a strong Texas 3A team. I'm also guessing that a few of the STA kids live in Western Zone.

Against Dillard, CRAZY athletes that ALL SELL OUT on every play, no team concept. Very easy to catch off guard and they did. All Dillard wanted to do was knock someone's helmet off and lay big hits, NOBODY stay home unlike Katy who does EXACTLY what they are assigned to do. Very smart, near impossible to fool.

Look at Boyd Anderson, you know how many penalties get thrown against them so you know how me first they all are. See Dillard and multiply by 3.

The Cypress game plan fell apart to Katy being far superior mentally to any team they've seen this year. Not having a quality QB hurt CB as well, had they had a QB capable of delivering a throw on a line then they make the adjustment and its much, much closer.

All the credit to Katy for staying home and not beating themselves, well, on defense at least, they left alot of points on the field due to the offense.

When you only face teams that don't understand team play then you are walking into a buzz saw. That's why CB got crushed, Katy was able to surprise them not with talent level or overwhelming skill but with maturity and not going for personal glory, something CB has not seen at all this year.

The only overt mismatch that I saw in skill was the Katy D line over the CB O line. That was nowhere close. The CB QB is awful, always has been. Well, I personally think Katy's WR's, OL, DL and QB were much better then Cypress Bay. Katy's RB's were better in their system. I do think if you put Jason Douglass on Katy's team he would be a 1,500 yard rusher in 10 games. He is cat quick but katy put the clamps on him.

The Katy D line slightly outmatched the CB O line and looked great due to their patience in waiting for the play to develop before attacking, once again, something that line has not expierienced.

Katy is an entirely different style of team that CB has every played. Classic Texas against a Florida team that is still searching for its identity. I believe CB has played against STA.

It may turn out that the biggest loss for Cypress may in fact be their D coordinator going over to Killian at the end of last season. There's a reason why the current D coord. is no longer the headcoach at Western...yes, THAT Western (in all fairness they were pretty good for a couple of years 2001-2004, lots of big mean rednecks on that O and D line...before he drove them into the ground that is).

..

[Redhoss]

I'm proud of Katy today. We were great host. Our band played their school song for them, we gave them special seating at Rhodes, we loaned them some of our more attractive trainers to keep them watered up, fumble a couple of times to give them a chance, then we out scored them and double lined them on the after game hand shake.

I'm sure they are looking forward to coming back next year.

ROFL :notworthy

[Redhoss]

ya'll kicked Florida's @ss...i counted ya'll out but i was wrong!...way wrong!
WAY 2 GO!!!!:notworthy

You've been wrong a lot of times which I've nicely pointed out.

But, I like you anyway. :D

[Redhoss]

Correction.

They kicked Cypress Bay's ***.

Send your best up next year. You can arrange it. We're not worried. :D

[Redhoss]

Please!

LOL.

Northwestern feasted on teams like Katy.

In 2007, there were no teams like Katy. :eek:

[Hitman49]

MNW was better than SLC no question at all. In my opinion so was Katy, Trinity, and Plano.
Big Whoop! There is a chance MNW would have beaten every team in TX last year. So What? They were the freakin mini Hurricanes and not at all indicative of the NORM in Florida football. Every so often that special team rolls through and Florida was lucky to be able to showcase that team last year. Having said that, I think Katy would have had their chances and it would have been a closer game than the SLC game. Plano and Trinity also would have had a nail biter game against MNW.

The bottom line is cane is a bonafied fool!

All this stuff that Cane points out only proves the Depth of Texas Football. Most Friday nights you better bring your "A" game!!

Cane go back to your hole!

[Dynastybegan86]

I'm not blaming Katy for their bad schedule.

I'm just pointing out that it wasn't that good.

Klein (7-4)
The Woodlands (3-7)
A&M Consolidated (5-5)
------
Strake Jesuit (8-2)
Houston Madison (7-4)
Pasadena Memorial (9-2)
Fort Bend Clements (13-0)
San Antonio Madison (13-1)
Pflugerville (12-3)

It took them 13 games to play a team that won 10 or more games.

Canes, is it? Let me explain something.....to play a team that has won 10 or more games, THEY HAVE TO PLAY 10 or more games! Of course it took 13 weeks, sorry we didn't play a 10-0 team in week 10:rolleyes: How many teams has your FL team played that in week 5 had 10 wins already so that you can claim superiority over Texas schools???? Oh that's right you don't count them in FL, there just scrimmages for nothing. Katy whipped your FL team, and Katy would have whipped your MNW boys last year. Go back to your FL boards, we're talking football in Texas not imaginary National Championships. We know you have talent in FL, no one denies that. They just don't play the team concept in FL.

Oh and BTW, ET would have put the smack down on MNW last year as well.

[Hitman49]

There has been a lot more Texas teams beat up Florida teams then vice versa over the past 10 years.

1997
Southridge 19, Carter 0

1998
Southridge 32, Carter 13
Lamar 24, Rutherford 21

1999
Aledo 24, South Fork 0

2000
Bridgeport 27, Niceville 16

2001
Niceville 51, Bridgeport 7

2002
Mosley 37, Gulf Shores 7
Rutherford 45, Gulf Shores 34

2003
Palatka 32, Gulf Shores 12

2004
Gulf Shores 38, Palatka 10

2005
Lee 31, Chaminade 28

2007
Northwestern 29, Carroll 21

2008
Katy 31, Cypress Bay 6

7-6 in favor of Florida.

Are there any that I'm missing?

If not I have a serious question for Frog.

Is there anything that you won't lie about? Or do you honestly not know anything that you speak about?


Can someone tell me who the hell is Gulf Shores? I remember Spring killed some team in Florida like C. Beach??,, really bad in Florida and the next year Spring lost a close game to Rutherford in Houston.

[slcdragonfan]

Congrats to Katy on a nice win. Awesome D, just big hitting all ov er the place. It is obvious that those kids haven't given up, lot's of character in that program (as if we didn't know that). For offense, a number of the passes were very crisp, and I love Webber. Nice O-Line as well. However (let me tell you what you already know), gotta stop with the mistakes already. Just way too many at this point in the season. You get those cleared up, and you'll be fine in District.

[Dynastybegan86]

Congrats to Katy on a nice win. Awesome D, just big hitting all ov er the place. It is obvious that those kids haven't given up, lot's of character in that program (as if we didn't know that). For offense, a number of the passes were very crisp, and I love Webber. Nice O-Line as well. However (let me tell you what you already know), gotta stop with the mistakes already. Just way too many at this point in the season. You get those cleared up, and you'll be fine in District.

Ask Miss Kitty, we bought an elephant :eek::D

[DownSouth]

You take these people at their word?

LOL.

My sister lives in Austin. I've been through Katy. I have friends who live in Katy.

Their district is awful. Their schedule last year was ho-hum.

They didn't play anybody that would be any different than who STA or MNW played.


I wasn't aware of the week schedule or that The Woodlands is coming off of a 3-7 season.

Honestly guys, I respect Texas football more than I respect the ball in my own state, your coaching is tops inthe country and so are your fans. They had an average 2nd round team but the rest were all top teams.

BUT,

MNW ran through the gauntlet last year against some of the most dangerous teams around and came out on top, they never had an opponent that deep into the playoffs that had 3 losses, plus they smoked a team 41-0 in the state title game. They did give DB their 3 rd loss in the regional final though.

I'm sure your guys were good last year, maybe even special as some of you say, but NO way they come close to MNW. That team was special, are you guys seeing what those freshman are doing at Miami right now?

Good luck to Katy the rest of the way, hopefuuly they make a nice run once the playoffs start.

[ftballin11]

I wasn't aware of the week schedule or that The Woodlands is coming off of a 3-7 season.

Honestly guys, I respect Texas football more than I respect the ball in my own state, your coaching is tops inthe country and so are your fans. They had an average 2nd round team but the rest were all top teams.

BUT,

MNW ran through the gauntlet last year against some of the most dangerous teams around and came out on top, they never had an opponent that deep into the playoffs that had 3 losses, plus they smoked a team 41-0 in the state title game. They did give DB their 3 rd loss in the regional final though.

I'm sure your guys were good last year, maybe even special as some of you say, but NO way they come close to MNW. That team was special, are you guys seeing what those freshman are doing at Miami right now?

Good luck to Katy the rest of the way, hopefuuly they make a nice run once the playoffs start.

He fails to mention that in the quarter finals we beat a undefeated clements team, 47-0, the following weak beat a 1 loss, madison team 66-14. Then won 28-7 in the finals whan it could have been alot worse.

[chunky79]

I wasn't aware of the week schedule or that The Woodlands is coming off of a 3-7 season.

Honestly guys, I respect Texas football more than I respect the ball in my own state, your coaching is tops inthe country and so are your fans. They had an average 2nd round team but the rest were all top teams.

BUT,

MNW ran through the gauntlet last year against some of the most dangerous teams around and came out on top, they never had an opponent that deep into the playoffs that had 3 losses, plus they smoked a team 41-0 in the state title game. They did give DB their 3 rd loss in the regional final though.

I'm sure your guys were good last year, maybe even special as some of you say, but NO way they come close to MNW. That team was special, are you guys seeing what those freshman are doing at Miami right now?

Good luck to Katy the rest of the way, hopefuuly they make a nice run once the playoffs start.

did you ever see katy play? ever? i never saw mnw play, so im just going to drop the argument on who would have won. but you cant say a game against katy would not have been close. 2007 katy was a special team too. i honestly think we would not have been beaten by anyone in the nation. but it would never happen so oh well.

[Texasfrog]

Can someone tell me who the hell is Gulf Shores? I remember Spring killed some team in Florida like C. Beach??,, really bad in Florida and the next year Spring lost a close game to Rutherford in Houston.

Gulf Shores Academy played football for like 5 years. It was basically a charter school in the LaMarque area. They played several OOS games between Florida and Ohio schools over that time period.

Basically their football was on a Texas 3A or lower quality.

I dont believe they even play football anymore.

Hitman, this is how much of a Texas powerhouse program Gulf Shores Academy was... They were never mentioned in Texas Dave Campbells Mag. The Bible of Texas HS football.

[Texasfrog]

I wasn't aware of the week schedule or that The Woodlands is coming off of a 3-7 season.

Honestly guys, I respect Texas football more than I respect the ball in my own state, your coaching is tops inthe country and so are your fans. They had an average 2nd round team but the rest were all top teams.

BUT,

MNW ran through the gauntlet last year against some of the most dangerous teams around and came out on top, they never had an opponent that deep into the playoffs that had 3 losses, plus they smoked a team 41-0 in the state title game. They did give DB their 3 rd loss in the regional final though.

I'm sure your guys were good last year, maybe even special as some of you say, but NO way they come close to MNW. That team was special, are you guys seeing what those freshman are doing at Miami right now?

Good luck to Katy the rest of the way, hopefuuly they make a nice run once the playoffs start.

MNW played against top Miami-Dade teams like yesterdays North Miami Beach team that got smoked by John Curtis, La 48-0.;)

A North Miami Beach team that is suppose to be a top quality South Florida team.

Again DownSouth, dont want to get into the 2007 MNW vs the World debate. But you obviously didnt see Katy play last year either. Much less Euless Trinity, Plano, Arlington Bowie and a few other teams.

I'm sure you watched the MNW vs SLC game and the big 8 pt victory and that game proved MNW was better then everyone in Texas.:rolleyes:

If you look at last years Katy team (Sr & JR). They have a QB, RB, a few OL dudes, WR, DB's and several other kids that either are or will play College football on the D-1A or D-1AA level. Were they the elite National Blue-Chips that the 2007 MNW team had,, "NO." But, they were pretty salty group and as a team alone more talented then last years SLC team that MNW played.

Again, it would of been fun to see the MNW vs Katy or Euless Trinity last year. I think both of those games would of been 4qt barn-burners.

I think this years Woodlands team is the sleeper team in Texas. They have the Depth, Team speed, Team skill, Blue-chip players and coaching to be mentioned in the same breath as any so called National Elite team. My darkhorse team to win the Texas 5A State Title this year.

[Texasfrog]

I wasn't aware of the week schedule or that The Woodlands is coming off of a 3-7 season.

Honestly guys, I respect Texas football more than I respect the ball in my own state, your coaching is tops inthe country and so are your fans. They had an average 2nd round team but the rest were all top teams.

BUT,

MNW ran through the gauntlet last year against some of the most dangerous teams around and came out on top, they never had an opponent that deep into the playoffs that had 3 losses, plus they (MNW) smoked a team 41-0 in the state title game. That Boone team that MNW smoked 41-0 in the State Title game probably isnt any better then this years Cypress Bay team. That Boone team was "NO POWER" at all. Neither was Lake Brantley from 2006.

They did give DB their 3 rd loss in the regional final though.

I'm sure your guys were good last year, maybe even special as some of you say, but NO way they come close to MNW. That team was special, are you guys seeing what those freshman are doing at Miami right now?

Good luck to Katy the rest of the way, hopefuuly they make a nice run once the playoffs start...

[ftballin11]

MNW played against top Miami-Dade teams like yesterdays North Miami Beach team that got smoked by John Curtis, La 48-0.;)

A North Miami Beach team that is suppose to be a top quality South Florida team.

Again DownSouth, dont want to get into the 2007 MNW vs the World debate. But you obviously didnt see Katy play last year either. Much less Euless Trinity, Plano, Arlington Bowie and a few other teams.

I'm sure you watched the MNW vs SLC game and the big 8 pt victory and that game proved MNW was better then everyone in Texas.:rolleyes:

If you look at last years Katy team (Sr & JR). They have a QB, RB, a few OL dudes, WR, DB's and several other kids that either are or will play College football on the D-1A or D-1AA level. Were they the elite National Blue-Chips that the 2007 MNW team had,, "NO." But, they were pretty salty group and as a team alone more talented then last years SLC team that MNW played.

Again, it would of been fun to see the MNW vs Katy or Euless Trinity last year. I think both of those games would of been 4qt barn-burners.

I think this years Woodlands team is the sleeper team in Texas. They have the Depth, Team speed, Team skill, Blue-chip players and coaching to be mentioned in the same breath as any so called National Elite team. My darkhorse team to win the Texas 5A State Title this year.

Katy is mine:D

[caveman]

Write up from Miami Herald this morning...KT's come a long way since TWHS game.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2008/10/katy-proves-to.html

Some things remain the same...one week at a time.;)

[ftballin11]

Write up from Miami Herald this morning...KT's come a long way since TWHS game.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2008/10/katy-proves-to.html

Some things remain the same...one week at a time.;)

Katy is loaded with Talent? The only ones i can see possibly doing D1 are Sam Holl and Brandt. Maybe Jefferies further down the road

[chunky79]

i think that any college could use a FG like raul, be that d1, d2 or d3

[dada]

Katy is loaded with Talent? The only ones i can see possibly doing D1 are Sam Holl and Brandt. Maybe Jefferies further down the road

Katy is loaded with sophomores and JR's who are making an impact right now....Holl(jr) Narcisse(soph) Jeffry and Jeffries(soph's)...also....does anyone have Taylor Brandt's numbers after 3 games?

[ftballin11]

i think that any college could use a FG like raul, be that d1, d2 or d3

True, hes good but im not sure bout D1, he be kickin somewhere though thats for sure.

[chunky79]

True, hes good but im not sure bout D1, he be kickin somewhere though thats for sure.
unt could use him:D

[ftballin11]

Katy is loaded with sophomores and JR's who are making an impact right now....Holl(jr) Narcisse(soph) Jeffry and Jeffries(soph's)...also....does anyone have Taylor Brandt's numbers after 3 games?


No dought i know they have some talented underclassmen. But i dont see any one coming out this year D1.

[chunky79]

Katy is loaded with sophomores and JR's who are making an impact right now....Holl(jr) Narcisse(soph) Jeffry and Jeffries(soph's)...also....does anyone have Taylor Brandt's numbers after 3 games?
i dont have official numbers, but going yard 3 times in all seperate games each going over 40 yards is pretty nice

[chunky79]

No dought i know they have some talented underclassmen. But i dont see any one coming out this year D1.
cameron travis OL #75

[dada]

No dought i know they have some talented underclassmen. But i dont see any one coming out this year D1.

Tapong is a possibility, if he stays on track...next year...Scouts will be camping out in Sam Holl's front yard.....why is this a suprise, before last year katy had 4 state titles without having teams loaded with D1 players.......the 2007 team seems to have made people think that...Katy was NEVER a program that relied on talent and athletes.

[dada]

cameron travis OL #75

Oh...Austin Summrall also....I beleive he's commited to Okla. St.

[ftballin11]

i dont have official numbers, but going yard 3 times in all seperate games each going over 40 yards is pretty nice

He adds an extra deminsion to the offense that we desperatly needed in the first two game, have you notice hes got kinda a funky form on catching the ball.

Of the receivers the most sure handed is Hirchfelder, the most explosive Brandt. They need to get more consistent as a unit. Ive seen to many first down balls dropped on 3rd down.

[dada]

He adds an extra deminsion to the offense that we desperatly needed in the first two game, have you notice hes got kinda a funky form on catching the ball.

Of the receivers the most sure handed is Hirchfelder, the most explosive Brandt. They need to get more consistent as a unit. Ive seen to many first down balls dropped on 3rd down.

Sebi Carbajal is back also....I still think Jones #8 is a threat if he gets the ball in his hands.

[ftballin11]

Tapong is a possibility, if he stays on track...next year...Scouts will be camping out in Sam Holl's front yard.....why is this a suprise, before last year katy had 4 state titles without having teams loaded with D1 players.......the 2007 team seems to have made people think that...Katy was NEVER a program that relied on talent and athletes.

thats what im getting at. Usually we'll have olineman or two go. Im just saying we dont have any blue chippers that will go to big schools like we did last year.

But im with you Sam Holl is a beast.

[chunky79]

ok so possible college players from this senior class

K raul balbuena 13
OL cameron travis 75
OL austin sumrall 76
WR taylor brandt 84
DL elvin tapong 94

out of those i say that only cameron and austin have a shot at d1
i think elvin would either go d2 or juco
i think raul could go to a crappy d1 school or any d2 or d3
and i dont think taylor will be playing football in college

[Texasfrog]

Sebi Carbajal is back also....I still think Jones #8 is a threat if he gets the ball in his hands.

I was impressed with the LB-Clifton who is a JR. Very active LB and seemed to be everywhere when he was in the game.

I know Katy is going through some rebuilding this year but looking at all the JR's and So. Man, next year could be a special season.

[dada]

ok so possible college players from this senior class

K raul balbuena 13
OL cameron travis 75
OL austin sumrall 76
WR taylor brandt 84
DL elvin tapong 94

out of those i say that only cameron and austin have a shot at d1
i think elvin would either go d2 or juco
i think raul could go to a crappy d1 school or any d2 or d3
and i dont think taylor will be playing football in college

Last year Amobi Okoye was on the sidelines a lot...does he have a brother at Katy?

[dada]

I was impressed with the LB-Clifton who is a JR. Very active LB and seemed to be everywhere when he was in the game.

I know Katy is going through some rebuilding this year but looking at all the JR's and So. Man, next year could be a special season.

There is another JR LB...can't think of his name right now....#40

[chunky79]

i have no idea, maybe he is scouting players for 2nd worst team in the nfl

[Texasfrog]

Some of the College teams on the D-1A and D-1AA level that still have a more balanced Pro-Style offense could use a FB like Chris Roberson.

Good size kid that is Old School.

[chunky79]

There is another JR LB...can't think of his name right now....#40
terrance barley

[chunky79]

Some of the College teams on the D-1A and D-1AA level that still have a more balanced Pro-Style offense could use a FB like Chris Roberson.

Good size kid that is Old School.
i thought i heard from somewhere he was going to Tech to deepsnap

[dada]

i thought i heard from somewhere he was going to Tech to deepsnap

Correct...

[chunky79]

Correct...
which is sad cuz tech doesnt use a fb and i think he could better be used as a deep snapper and a fb

[Texasfrog]

i thought i heard from somewhere he was going to Tech to deepsnap

I saw something else that also said Roberson was going to Tx Tech.

I think a couple of the O-line kids are sure fire D-1A or D-1AA caliber.

Wr-Brandt will get some offer. Hard to overlook a 6-5 kid that can run well and catch.

[Dynastybegan86]

Katy is loaded with sophomores and JR's who are making an impact right now....Holl(jr) Narcisse(soph) Jeffry and Jeffries(soph's)...also....does anyone have Taylor Brandt's numbers after 3 games?

dada, you know we love those sophomores and jr's! Jeffery is a Jr. Brandt had to have close to a 100 yds yesterday. His production numbers are HUGE!

[dada]

which is sad cuz tech doesnt use a fb and i think he could better be used as a deep snapper and a fb

maybe they will use him as a LB.....going into the spring...we all thought he was a threat with the ball in his hand.....Katy really hasn't used him until this past game....maybe coach J WAS being conservative...they really opened it up.....the last 3 games shouldnt have been close...Katy has been stopping themselves....once they play a full 4 quarters....it will be scary.

[chunky79]

I saw something else that also said Roberson was going to Tx Tech.

I think a couple of the O-line kids are sure fire D-1A or D-1AA caliber.

Wr-Brandt will get some offer. Hard to overlook a 6-5 kid that can run well and catch.
brandt is good but given his history, no

[dada]

dada, you know we love those sophomores and jr's! Jeffery is a Jr. Brandt had to have close to a 100 yds yesterday. His production numbers are HUGE!

He's went over 100 yards in every game he's played in.....I'm pretty sure.

[Texasfrog]

brandt is good but given his history, no

Ya, I dont know all those details. But if I get your drift, then YES you're right.;)

[chunky79]

maybe they will use him as a LB.....going into the spring...we all thought he was a threat with the ball in his hand.....Katy really hasn't used him until this past game....maybe coach J WAS being conservative...they really opened it up.....the last 3 games shouldnt have been close...Katy has been stopping themselves....once they play a full 4 quarters....it will be scary.
he used to be a LB, i remember the clements game when he broke one. i think everyone was happy for him because he had broken some before but had never scored. chris is good and i dont know why he hasnt been getting the ball

[dada]

he used to be a LB, i remember the clements game when he broke one. i think everyone was happy for him because he had broken some before but had never scored. chris is good and i dont know why he hasnt been getting the ball

It was the Strake game when they accused Katy of running up the score after a third string linebacker broke a 55 yarder to the house.

[Texasfrog]

Katy is loaded with Talent? The only ones i can see possibly doing D1 are Sam Holl and Brandt. Maybe Jefferies further down the road

Larry Blustein does most of the Prep Football stuff down here in the South Florida area. He is one of the leading writers for a Sports Mag down here (South Florida) called Unrestricted.

He would be alright but in 50% of the stuff he writes he always makes many comments about how far superior the HS Football is in South Florida and how it's the toughest Region in the Country for HS Football.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm sure he is a little shell-shocked right now seeing many of the South Florida teams gettting SMOKED by OOS teams.;)

[Bass]

It was the Strake game when they accused Katy of running up the score after a third string linebacker broke a 55 yarder to the house.

I hate Strake so much.

[chunky79]

i knew it was one of those, it was a 50-50 toss-up. i picked the wrong one of course. oh well. and the funny thing is we were just running our offense. that was a typical base or trap play

[ftballin11]

I was impressed with the LB-Clifton who is a JR. Very active LB and seemed to be everywhere when he was in the game.

I know Katy is going through some rebuilding this year but looking at all the JR's and So. Man, next year could be a special season.

From what i hear the freshman and sophs are loaded as well, could be a long run coming for katy;)

[dada]

Larry Blustein does most of the Prep Football stuff down here in the South Florida area. He is one of the leading writers for a Sports Mag down here (South Florida) called Unrestricted.

He would be alright but in 50% of the stuff he writes he always makes many comments about how far superior the HS Football is in South Florida and how it's the toughest Region in the Country for HS Football.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm sure he is a little shell-shocked right now seeing many of the South Florida teams gettting SMOKED by OOS teams.;)

It's all about COACHING....Florida by far has the most TALENT in the country...but the best FOOTBALL is played in Texas. A guy that runs a 4.7 40 and knows his assignmets, knows what to do...where he's supposed to be...is faster than a 4.3 guy who doesn't.

[Dynastybegan86]

i knew it was one of those, it was a 50-50 toss-up. i picked the wrong one of course. oh well. and the funny thing is we were just running our offense. that was a typical base or trap play

Yeah 33 base maybe?

[ftballin11]

when is film night

[ftballin11]

Yeah 33 base maybe?

34 trap

[Dynastybegan86]

when is film night

Monday

[chunky79]

34 trap
no to 34 trap. if anything it was 33 base or 31 trap

[rwilleby]

when is film night

Monday's at 7:00...

[ftballin11]

no to 34 trap. if anything it was 33 base or 31 trap

they ran both 31 and 34, 31 was there base run. They ran 34 on that long 3rd down that picked up a big gain the only difference is we cut it up under the tackle

[chunky79]

i really dont remember running 34 trap. 31 trap and 33 base are the only ones i could remember that we ran with the fb

[dada]

How many Sr's besides Tapong were on Defense yesterday.

[ftballin11]

i really dont remember running 34 trap. 31 trap and 33 base are the only ones i could remember that we ran with the fb

The last time i remeber seeing it ran at the varsity level was 02' against hightower. Ive been away for awhile so maybe the new OC Discountinued it.

It was called 34 tackle trap.

[ftballin11]

How many Sr's besides Tapong were on Defense yesterday.

I think all the linebacker are underclassmen and i know Sam Holl

[Texasfrog]

It's all about COACHING....Florida by far has the most TALENT in the country...but the best FOOTBALL is played in Texas. A guy that runs a 4.7 40 and knows his assignmets, knows what to do...where he's supposed to be...is faster than a 4.3 guy who doesn't.

I totally agree with the point that a 6-0/200/4.7 guy is more dangerous then a 6-2/210/4.5 guy when the physical inferior guys knows his assignments.

Especially when you have a team full of those guys that all know their assignments and the other team has 3 or 4 blue-chips but doesnt have the depth.

As far as Florida having way more talent then Texas. I've always stated there is some great Talent in Florida. But Texas has a ton of great talent also. The difference between the two States (Fla and Tx) in regards to top end talent is very slight at best. Both States are loaded with top end Blue-chips.

I'll be breaking down the rosters of the the Final AP #25 college teams again for like the 6 year in a row. Texas has lead every year on those rosters except once when California edged out Texas by like 12 players.

[dada]

I think all the linebacker are underclassmen and i know Sam Holl

Two of the DLinemen are also..Bray and Narcisse

[Texasfrog]

Two of the DLinemen are also..Bray and Narcisse

Narcisse is a good looking player. He should be a good one before his Katy days are over. Dont let him leave to go do UFC.

[ftballin11]

Two of the DLinemen are also..Bray and Narcisse

Wow what about the rest of the secondary.

[ftballin11]

Narcisse is a good looking player. He should be a good one before his Katy days are over. Dont let him leave to go do UFC.

man you know how good this defense would be if they werent missing the best player micah Marks coming into the season.

[dada]

Narcisse is a good looking player. He should be a good one before his Katy days are over. Dont let him leave to go do UFC.

I call him Rodman(#91).....during the spring game and the scrimmage he was just disruptive....lots of energy, The coaches have seemed to harness that wildness....a SOPHOMORE.....off the top of my head...he may lead the team in sacks....I hope he dosent leave for the UFC.....lol...imagine what this defense would look like if Yacoub and Marks were still on the team.

[chunky79]

The last time i remeber seeing it ran at the varsity level was 02' against hightower. Ive been away for awhile so maybe the new OC Discountinued it.

It was called 34 tackle trap.
im almost certain that we didnt run tackle trap that play. i could be wrong. but i just dont remember it and i was in lol

[dada]

Wow what about the rest of the secondary.

from the Katy site:
dl:
#91 so
#99 so
#95 jr

lb:
#40 jr
#41 so
#42 jr
#48 so
#36 jr

db:
#25 jr
#31 jr
#23 jr
#33 jr

[chunky79]

Wow what about the rest of the secondary.
zach griffin wasnt in?

[chunky79]

I call him Rodman(#91).....during the spring game and the scrimmage he was just disruptive....lots of energy, The coaches have seemed to harness that wildness....a SOPHOMORE.....off the top of my head...he may lead the team in sacks....I hope he dosent leave for the UFC.....lol...imagine what this defense would look like if Yacoub and Marks were still on the team.
i just dont understand the whole leave for ufc stuff. football is way better:D

[ftballin11]

from the Katy site:
dl:
#91 so
#99 so
#95 jr

lb:
#40 jr
#41 so
#42 jr
#48 so
#36 jr

db:
#25 jr
#31 jr
#23 jr
#33 jr

are all those Dbs starters, or which ones are.

[dada]

are all those Dbs starters

Being that Katy was exposed in the Woodz game...the secondary has changed game to game....depending on the match ups...all have seen loads of playing time.

[ftballin11]

im almost certain that we didnt run tackle trap that play. i could be wrong. but i just dont remember it and i was in lol


We didnt run it yesterday.

[Texasfrog]

man you know how good this defense would be if they werent missing the best player micah Marks coming into the season.

Ya, I still dont get that one but it's a free World. I just cant see passing up your Senior Year of football. Especially from a youngman that I thought had a chance to get several D-1A offers.

[Texasfrog]

from the Katy site:
dl:
#91 so
#99 so
#95 jr

lb:
#40 jr
#41 so
#42 jr
#48 so
#36 jr

db:
#25 jr
#31 jr
#23 jr
#33 jr

Cy-Bay might want to reconsider next years game. It's going to get ugly really fast.

[ftballin11]

Ya, I still dont get that one but it's a free World. I just cant see passing up your Senior Year of football. Especially from a youngman that I thought had a chance to get several D-1A offers.

Yep, im not sure what happened, but this could be on helluva defense

[chunky79]

We didnt run it yesterday.
i was talking about strake

[Katy Band 2010]

How many Sr's besides Tapong were on Defense yesterday.


Srs. DL-Matt Wiens
DL-Elvin Tapong
CB-Van Atwood
CB-Zac Griffin
OLB-Caleb Chandler

thats who i seem to have remembered...

Jrs. DL-Bray
LB-Mattney
LB-Barley
DB-Ryan Rose
DB-Sam Holl

So.'s DL-Narscieese
DL-Sampa
LB-Clifton


A few may be wrong but i believe those for the most part are correct

[chunky79]

defense will return next year, but what about the offense?

[dada]

Srs. DL-Matt Wiens
DL-Elvin Tapong
CB-Van Atwood
CB-Zac Griffin
OLB-Caleb Chandler

thats who i seem to have remembered...

Jrs. DL-Bray
LB-Mattney
LB-Barley
DB-Ryan Rose
DB-Sam Holl

So.'s DL-Narscieese
DL-Sampa
LB-Clifton


A few may be wrong but i believe those for the most part are correct

I forgot about Sampa and Clifton......wow

[Katy Band 2010]

We didnt run it yesterday.

Ok, it was 30 draw....
its not that hard....geeez

[C-DUB]

How many Sr's besides Tapong were on Defense yesterday.

Where is Tapong going to College?

[dada]

defense will return next year, but what about the offense?

Jeffry, Jeffries, Ryan Jones...Stojakavic(sp)...Swanson........that's all I can think of.....plus I hear the second coming of Bo Levi Mitchell is getting a lot of attention on the freshman team.

[Katy Band 2010]

I forgot about Sampa and Clifton......wow

Also add to that list

So. LB-Chapman
JR LB-Fisher , was injured
JR LB-Zach Okrilick (sp.)

[Texasfrog]

Jeffry, Jeffries, Ryan Jones...Stojakavic(sp)...Swanson........that's all I can think of.....plus I hear the second coming of Bo Levi Mitchell is getting a lot of attention on the freshman team.

There is a couple of good looking underclass O-lineman kids also. The Junior O-line kid that is about (6-5/255) looks like he has a lot of upside.

[ftballin11]

Ok, it was 30 draw....
its not that hard....geeez

No we know that one:D. I just was talking bout something completely different that chuncky, i missed the convo.

[dada]

There is a couple of good looking underclass O-lineman kids also. The Junior O-line kid that is about (6-5/255) looks like he has a lot of upside.

#75?

[ftballin11]

Jeffry, Jeffries, Ryan Jones...Stojakavic(sp)...Swanson........that's all I can think of.....plus I hear the second coming of Bo Levi Mitchell is getting a lot of attention on the freshman team.

I dont remember ever having a sophmore QB. That would be a first for me. Plus it would be the second coming of Kaspar.