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Tsup
10-04-2008, 09:06 AM
Ive seen the improvements and position changes Trinity's made half way through the year. Just wondering how Heriatage sees there strengths on defense and what heritage fans see as the key to the game this next friday. Mr head looks like he finally had a really substantial night running the ball. Who are the D1 prospects on heritages roster. And whatever else anyone might want to include so we can watch the small battles that make up the overall game

FeeltheHaka
10-04-2008, 11:00 AM
I'm actually worried about this one. We saw how we squeaked by against Keller. On Paper, Colleyville is better. Colleyville's coach actually had more offensive yards than Southlake at his previous job. Colleyville's wins so far have been by a wide margin. I will be interested to see how our bend, but don't break defense will hold up against their Offense. I've said this about 3 years ago. Colleyville will have a day when they are a top 3 in the state team.
We can not take this game lightly.

Tsup
10-04-2008, 11:39 AM
I saw great improvment with trey at fullback and tevin at tailback and think trinity has found a combination that will rival handy and nance. also believe time of possesion is going to play a huge part in this game keeping heritages offense of the field will play a big factor. O-line is comming around and taking heritage lightly I dont think is a concern.
This is the game of the year and turnovers time of possesion, penalty's and special teams could very well be the story. My prediction winner of this game wins district. I surely dont see heritage being any tougher than Allen or John Curtis. Trinity made the adjustment in there backfield having trey and tevin playing at the same time is a huge step forward becomming a much more deadly steady rushing team. IF Colleyville doesnt stop the run it will be a long night for heritage. If they do its a much closer game with the edge going to heritage.

da wiz
10-04-2008, 11:46 AM
I saw great improvment with trey at fullback and tevin at tailback and think trinity has found a combination that will rival handy and nance. also believe time of possesion is going to play a huge part in this game keeping heritages offense of the field will play a big factor. O-line is comming around and taking heritage lightly I dont think is a concern.
This is the game of the year and turnovers time of possesion, penalty's and special teams could very well be the story. My prediction winner of this game wins district. I surely dont see heritage being any tougher than Allen or John Curtis. Trinity made the adjustment in there backfield having trey and tevin playing at the same time is a huge step forward becomming a much more deadly steady rushing team. IF Colleyville doesnt stop the run it will be a long night for heritage. If they do its a much closer game with the edge going to heritage.
i dont think they will be able to stop the run, and mcghee is passing for
over 140 yds per game, if we get any kind of pass rush we should be okay.
herritage will be in the game but in the end the trojans prevail, imo....

rams55
10-04-2008, 11:56 AM
oh here come the big ole trinity trojans

COLLEYVILLE WIN....

Cloviskid
10-04-2008, 12:09 PM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

TrojanBandEX
10-04-2008, 12:09 PM
i dont think they will be able to stop the run, and mcghee is passing for
over 140 yds per game, if we get any kind of pass rush we should be okay.
herritage will be in the game but in the end the trojans prevail, imo....

I agree. Didn't Fossil Ridge put 400 yards up on Heritage?...145 yards on us? Basic math gives some indication of how effective the Heritage D is. Pump this game all you want...Trinity will do a number on 'em.

Cloviskid
10-04-2008, 12:13 PM
I agree. Didn't Fossil Ridge put 400 yards up on Heritage?...145 yards on us? Basic math gives some indication of how effective the Heritage D is. Pump this game all you want...Trinity will do a number on 'em.


But they have not done a Number on anyone and now roll into the best team they play this year! Trinity numbers are LOW!

mojoguy
10-04-2008, 12:16 PM
But they have not done a Number on anyone and now roll into the best team they play this year! Trinity numbers are LOW!

Trinity doesn't put up pretty numbers. They just run over everyone.

da wiz
10-04-2008, 12:17 PM
colleyville h is good, but im not ready to say they are better than allen,
maybe they will change my mind friday night........

da wiz
10-04-2008, 12:19 PM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool: i was thinking you had a clue, but you are saying that
trinity will lose at home by14-17 pts ?? anything is possible, heck i could win the lotto today, probably not though..........

mojoguy
10-04-2008, 12:22 PM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

I didn't see this prediction. You really think Colleyville will beat Trinity by the same score they beat Justin Northwest? :rolleyes:

Cloviskid
10-04-2008, 12:24 PM
i was thinking you had a clue, but you are saying that
trinity will lose at home by14-17 pts ?? anything is possible, heck i could win the lotto today, probably not though..........


I just don't see the team they where! I think its upset time!

But if I am wrong I :notworthy to you! How ever it ends it will be a good game! No Blow Out! 14 or 17 is no blow out!

da wiz
10-04-2008, 12:28 PM
I just don't see the team they where! I think its upset time!

But if I am wrong I :notworthy to you! How ever it ends it will be a good game! No Blow Out! 14 or 17 is no blow out!

agreed, trinity has lost 1 game at home in the last 3 seasons 35-28,
to south grand prarie in 05, they seem to always find away to win at home
even when they dont play at their best.......

Hitman49
10-04-2008, 12:35 PM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

Cloviskid- Hey man did you get hit on the sideline and hurt your head?

Trinity is going to beat these guys by 21 or more.

How did you guys do this week?

slcdragonfan
10-04-2008, 12:51 PM
But they have not done a Number on anyone and now roll into the best team they play this year! Trinity numbers are LOW!

No offense to CHHS, but this is NOT the best team they play or have played this year. And they won all the others.

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 12:55 PM
This game should be competetive. CH has shown the ablility to defend one dimensional run offenses (Like Clovis). If Trinity has difficulty establishing a passing game they become alot easier to defend. Can Trinity win this by being one-dimensional? It's easier if you keep the lead. but if CH get's ahead early, it's hard to recapture momentum by slugging it out on the ground.

Defensively the Trojans have adjusted the front 7. I'm sure it was to add a speed rusher off the edge, word is you can't let CH QB sit back there unharrassed. The CH QB has the patience and accuracy to pick you appart if your playing a soft zone.

I believe the Trojans are done with looking past district foes, Keller couldn't have done us a better favor (especially letting us win).

If you look at this last game against winless FR it's easy to ignore the numbers they've put up this season.

375 yds vs Arlington Lamar (2-2)
326 yds vs Flower Mound (5-0)
421 yds vs Marcus (3-2)
423 yds vs Colleyville (5-0)
145 yds vs ET (5-0)

Trinity will have a few things up its sleve as I'm sure CH will as well (Part of a close game against JNW might have been a result of utilizing only half the playbook). But Key's to the game for Trinity will be the same as every week.

1. Be physical.
2. Take care of the ball.
3. Execute
4. Be in the moment...one play at a time

chhspantherfan
10-04-2008, 01:07 PM
looking forward to it. We took care of business last night and ran the ball effectively. I will have a comment or two as the week goes by.


Congrats to both teams for their 5-0 starts. :D

toonman
10-04-2008, 01:13 PM
Colleyville never wins the big games in district. They always found a way to implode when they played the Dragons in district. Against the Trojans they will lose by a big score; as Trinity has aleady had their close game against Keller.

Cloviskid
10-04-2008, 01:35 PM
Cloviskid- Hey man did you get hit on the sideline and hurt your head?

Trinity is going to beat these guys by 21 or more.

How did you guys do this week?

HitMAN! We sucked! We won 42 19 but should have put up 60! We played all Jr.'s & Soph last night to keep from a blow out.

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 02:48 PM
Clovis kid, nobody is as good at the early part of the season as they will be at the end. So I realize Clovis is better now than they were at week0. Especially following a 2000 mile trek to Irving Texas.

That said, does anybody in Cali consider your squad an Elite team in your own state? I've heard of the Bannings and Carson squads of the late 80's, the Bakerfields and Fontana's of the same period and ofcourse the LongBeach Poly's and Delasalles but even your neighbors in California don't consider your team an Elite California program.

CH might just be that this year, especially if they win this next one. If CH wins, there will be no excuses for Trinity. Everyone associated with our program knows they're special this year, and Coach Lineweaver won't have any problems getting the team up for this game.

This defense shut down FR with a Vanilla package on thursday. A fairly simple job against an outmanned opponent. Won't be so easy against a more physical and talented CH team this coming week.

I'm anxious to see what coach T will unviel in the way of blitz scheme's next friday. One thing you can count on, Trinity will have something ready this friday when it's called for. Thankfully you can do a lot of things (or get away with a lot of things) when you've got DB's like Trinity has. I expect we'll see a ton of underneath stuff against the zone as a result. Trinity Linebackers will be extra attentive to routes over the middle which might open things up for the CH running game. But what they might lack in run support they more than make up for it in pass defense. Murphy is a highly underrated LB with great ball skills. In Norman we have the big hitter to police the run and the speed to cover sideline to sideline. I'm excited with the look of Christo Lasika our two TD runningback against Curtis and CedarHill now converted to DE.

Offensively I love the hybrid I-formation/Spread scheme. I never thought I'd see the day where Trinity runs the spread as effectively as some of the states elites who do it on an every down scenario, but with Mcghee and this group of wide-recievers we have that option when we need it. Who ever thought Trinity would ever look so comfortable running a no huddle two-minute drill. We just need to provide better protection for Mcghee when the occasion calls again.

The Oline is coming together. would like to see more big bodies downfield on toss sweeps but I can live with the line surge we're getting now.

You can never pick the right time to play an Elite opponent like CH. But there'll be no panic in Lineweaver and his staff this week. The same will be true of our neighbors to the north

jbusch
10-04-2008, 03:26 PM
i was thinking you had a clue, but you are saying that
trinity will lose at home by14-17 pts ?? anything is possible, heck i could win the lotto today, probably not though.......... don't forget - ya gotta buy a ticket before you can win the Lotto

Tsup
10-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Once again with Robinson and Williams in the backfield at the same time you have home run hitters all over the field. This combination also allowed Smith to move back out to wide reciever. Where Trinty benefited is 3 fold. Smith is a fullback blocking at reciever, Robinson is 6'2 225 blocking at fullback and has a great straigght line burst with the ability to carry several defenseman 3 to 4 yards past intial contact. Williams is the cruiser that turns the corner with a burst of speed. I have a son who is a offensive lineman and I can promise you they are tired of listening to the fact there the weak link. It takes a while for any trinity offensive line to come together because of the zone blocks they have to learn. I am pretty sure they are past that learning curve at this point and should maintain there blocks and lay the wood on most lineman or linebackers from here on out. They looked better than good against fossil ridge and actually if you watched the keller game most plays were dominated by our offensive line it was not physical but mental mistakes that casued a backer to be left free, and it wasnt a swarming defense but a individual on kellers side making the tackle. It will be interesting, but trinity's offense just got better and loads better. You stop trey here comes tevin, you stop tevin here comes trey. do you stop the trap and quick hitting dive or the sweep and counter. defenses are going to have to guess whos getting the ball no more key on the tailback.

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I have said the same thing over and over again myself. The oline is the engine that runs the Trojan Train. When they're hitting on all cylinders we're dominant. I have said many times that this O-line has the potential to be one of our best, as individual blockers they are dominating, but inexperience will demand patience from from fans like myself while they grow as a unit. However when they're on they send shivers up my back.

jbusch
10-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Once again with Robinson and Williams in the backfield at the same time you have home run hitters all over the field. This combination also allowed Smith to move back out to wide reciever. Where Trinty benefited is 3 fold. Smith is a fullback blocking at reciever, Robinson is 6'2 225 blocking at fullback and has a great straigght line burst with the ability to carry several defenseman 3 to 4 yards past intial contact. Williams is the cruiser that turns the corner with a burst of speed. I have a son who is a offensive lineman and I can promise you they are tired of listening to the fact there the weak link. It takes a while for any trinity offensive line to come together because of the zone blocks they have to learn. I am pretty sure they are past that learning curve at this point and should maintain there blocks and lay the wood on most lineman or linebackers from here on out. They looked better than good against fossil ridge and actually if you watched the keller game most plays were dominated by our offensive line it was not physical but mental mistakes that casued a backer to be left free, and it wasnt a swarming defense but a individual on kellers side making the tackle. It will be interesting, but trinity's offense just got better and loads better. You stop trey here comes tevin, you stop tevin here comes trey. do you stop the trap and quick hitting dive or the sweep and counter. defenses are going to have to guess whos getting the ball no more key on the tailback.

Actually putting Tray in as fullback to Tevin does not always allow Stetson to go to the recevier slot. Trinity is now at times running a two full back system with Tevin as RB and Stetson and Tray as FB's. This does allow Stetson to catch passes but from the full back slot. Leaving Stetson in the back field as the second FB is just more confusing to the "D" and an advantage to ET you don't know if he will block receive or take the quick handoff as the first back thru.
Also Tray is not a full time FB, he is still the RB on some plays.
Tray & Stetsons multiple talents are what makes the "O" interesting ( along with about a million other things & guys)

TrojanHorse03
10-04-2008, 04:43 PM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

May be, we'll have to see....

toonman
10-04-2008, 06:12 PM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

Colleyville may keep it close for a while, but as I said in an earlier post Colleyville never wins the big games in district. They could never contain Southlake Carroll in district, while Trinity has already learned from a close game with Keller. Trinity stomps all over Colleyville and wins big.
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TulsaHale74
10-04-2008, 07:02 PM
Colleyville never wins the big games in district. They always found a way to implode when they played the Dragons in district. Against the Trojans they will lose by a big score; as Trinity has aleady had their close game against Keller.

Colleyville may keep it close for a while, but as I said in an earlier post Colleyville never wins the big games in district. They could never contain Southlake Carroll in district, while Trinity has already learned from a close game with Keller. Trinity stomps all over Colleyville and wins big.
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What you are saying is the only big district games Colleyville Heritage ever had in 12 seasons was games against Carroll. That's not true. Colleyville Heritage has never been a dominant team, so many of the district games have been big games. The goal is to get to the playoffs which they have achieved.

Has Colleyville Heritage ever been the favorite against Carroll? No. Has Colleyville Heritage ever been expected to keep it close against Carroll? Probably not. So Colleyville Heritage has never imploded. They just never over achieved against Carroll. Neither has most of the state.

Trinity is the best team in the state which always makes them the favorite. That also means they are a huge favorite in many games. This one is no different. If Trinity wins or wins big, it won't be because Colleyville Heritage implodes. It will be because Trinity is a better team.

Trojan4653
10-04-2008, 07:22 PM
Trinity doesn't put up pretty numbers. They just run over everyone.

:notworthy:notworthy I wonder when the majority will begin to see it. I invoke the spirit of FarmerFan

Cloviskid
10-04-2008, 07:22 PM
da hawaiian
Clovis kid, nobody is as good at the early part of the season as they will be at the end. So I realize Clovis is better now than they were at week0. Especially following a 2000 mile trek to Irving Texas.

That said, does anybody in Cali consider your squad an Elite team in your own state? I've heard of the Bannings and Carson squads of the late 80's, the Bakerfields and Fontana's of the same period and ofcourse the LongBeach Poly's and Delasalles but even your neighbors in California don't consider your team an Elite California program.

What the heck are you talking about? Concentrate BRO!
We are talking about the Trinity vs Colleyville game!
Not weather CE is a power in California! We are NOT never have been, but some day maybe! We are a new school!

Now back to what we are talking about! No wait beings you may have HDHD! I will tell you a little story and then back to Trinity vs Colleyville!



See some time back da hawaiian went threw this fazes of thinking at times it's good to feel Good & Bad at the same time! So he says Honey, my Wife, My Love Please tell me some thing that will make me feel Happy yet Sad AT THE SAME TIME?!?!?!

So wanting to please "da hawaiian" she thinks for a bit and Say's I can only tell what I know! Your Man Hood is Bigger then your Brother the ClovisKid! :notworthy

trinitytrojansdominate
10-04-2008, 08:59 PM
If ya'll think that CHHS can beat Trinity, ya'll must have sustained some hits to the head. It may be a close one but, my opinion, Trinity seems to shine the most in close ones....
Keller 17-10
Judson 13-10
Plano 30-27

Must I go on:)

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 09:03 PM
Slc 22
Et 21

trinitytrojansdominate
10-04-2008, 09:07 PM
Think about it... Who was the better team...... Trinity, even SLC said we were the better team, we lost because of a "questionable" fake punt, but we still lost and they still won so let's not live in the past.:)

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 09:14 PM
SLC fans who tell you that don't really believe it. If the tables were reversed would you?

I think we've got a Great team this year. But this post-season will be arguably the toughest road Trinity has faced as a defending champion. The road to this years 5A title will be murderous...especially for teams coming out of RegionI. The other regions maynot see quality opponents till the regional finals or beyond, we'll be looking at that level of competition in the 2nd round.

TrojanHorse03
10-04-2008, 09:18 PM
Think about it... Who was the better team...... Trinity, even SLC said we were the better team, we lost because of a "questionable" fake punt, but we still lost and they still won so let's not live in the past.:)

Actually they(not me) think we were the inferior team and the fake punt was the right call just sayin'. But the only thing important about that game to this weeks is it doesn't matter how much you win by, just win and you don't have to deal with what if. Hopefully we will have a good week of practice so the 2008 Trinity Trojans don't have to deal with what if questions for a week :)...oh yeah and won't be Colleyville's next victim ;).

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 09:24 PM
Actually they(not me) think we were the inferior team and the fake punt was the right call just sayin'. But the only thing important about that game to this weeks is it doesn't matter how much you win by, just win and you don't have to deal with what if. Hopefully we will have a good week of practice so the 2008 Trinity Trojans don't have to deal with what if questions for a week :)...oh yeah and won't be Colleyville's next victim ;).

Well put

da hawaiian
10-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Think about it... Who was the better team...... Trinity, even SLC said we were the better team, we lost because of a "questionable" fake punt, but we still lost and they still won so let's not live in the past.:)

Forgive my manners newest Trojan poster. Welcome to the board and hope you stick around. I didn't mean to treat you so coldly as my last couple of posts seem, now that I read them over :).

trinitytrojansdominate
10-04-2008, 10:12 PM
No prob I didnt take it like that:)

jbusch
10-04-2008, 10:35 PM
Worthless information, somebody will use in an arguement

Previous meetings

2002 ET 35 CHHS 6

2003 ET 35 CHHS 15



Is Trinity Stuck on 35????

trinitytrojansdominate
10-04-2008, 10:39 PM
I don't care if it is 35 or 5 as long as we win.....I don't care:)

TheScout
10-05-2008, 12:39 AM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

You better be glad you played Colleyville. You would not have scored against Trinity. If you think just because you lost to them, that everyone else will too, youre mistaken. Most of Texas would have beaten you.

FeeltheHaka
10-05-2008, 01:26 AM
Clovis kid, nobody is as good at the early part of the season as they will be at the end. So I realize Clovis is better now than they were at week0. Especially following a 2000 mile trek to Irving Texas.

That said, does anybody in Cali consider your squad an Elite team in your own state? I've heard of the Bannings and Carson squads of the late 80's, the Bakerfields and Fontana's of the same period and ofcourse the LongBeach Poly's and Delasalles but even your neighbors in California don't consider your team an Elite California program.

CH might just be that this year, especially if they win this next one. If CH wins, there will be no excuses for Trinity. Everyone associated with our program knows they're special this year, and Coach Lineweaver won't have any problems getting the team up for this game.

This defense shut down FR with a Vanilla package on thursday. A fairly simple job against an outmanned opponent. Won't be so easy against a more physical and talented CH team this coming week.

I'm anxious to see what coach T will unviel in the way of blitz scheme's next friday. One thing you can count on, Trinity will have something ready this friday when it's called for. Thankfully you can do a lot of things (or get away with a lot of things) when you've got DB's like Trinity has. I expect we'll see a ton of underneath stuff against the zone as a result. Trinity Linebackers will be extra attentive to routes over the middle which might open things up for the CH running game. But what they might lack in run support they more than make up for it in pass defense. Murphy is a highly underrated LB with great ball skills. In Norman we have the big hitter to police the run and the speed to cover sideline to sideline. I'm excited with the look of Christo Lasika our two TD runningback against Curtis and CedarHill now converted to DE.

Offensively I love the hybrid I-formation/Spread scheme. I never thought I'd see the day where Trinity runs the spread as effectively as some of the states elites who do it on an every down scenario, but with Mcghee and this group of wide-recievers we have that option when we need it. Who ever thought Trinity would ever look so comfortable running a no huddle two-minute drill. We just need to provide better protection for Mcghee when the occasion calls again.


The Oline is coming together. would like to see more big bodies downfield on toss sweeps but I can live with the line surge we're getting now.

You can never pick the right time to play an Elite opponent like CH. But there'll be no panic in Lineweaver and his staff this week. The same will be true of our neighbors to the north

You aren't kidding when you say, "I never thought I'd see the day where Trinity runs the spread as effectively....etc." Sometimes I think we insert those spread formation plays to mock the spread formation, or even mock the other team. Or even possibly to say, "Look, we can do that too, no big dealio!"


Hawaiian, we look at alot of the same things in the game!

TheScout
10-05-2008, 02:49 AM
I wrote a program called "2626" to help me predict scores throughout the season. All kinds of stats and info.. Scores, MOV and opp win %. This is just for fun, and I actually have been close on two of three attempts this year. I missed on the Plano/ Wylie game, but that was the old program. No kidding so far against Keller, the program predicted Trinity over Keller 16-9, (17-10 actual)but I thought it was crazy.....hmmmmm. Then it said 47-4 (45-3 actual) Trinity over Fossil Ridge, so I think I was just lucky, oh well I'll try again. This time I got 7 diff scores so I avg them to get my prediction. all scores plus/minus 5 points

2626 Predicts:

13 - 9 T
20.5 - 14 T
20.5 - 12 T
38 - 17 T
50 - 15.4 T
27 - 13.5 T
24 - 11.5 T

AVG = Trinity wins 27.6-13.2 (28-14)

jbusch
10-05-2008, 08:13 AM
I wrote a program called "2626" to help me predict scores throughout the season. All kinds of stats and info.. Scores, MOV and opp win %. This is just for fun, and I actually have been close on two of three attempts this year. I missed on the Plano/ Wylie game, but that was the old program. No kidding so far against Keller, the program predicted Trinity over Keller 16-9, (17-10 actual)but I thought it was crazy.....hmmmmm. Then it said 47-4 (45-3 actual) Trinity over Fossil Ridge, so I think I was just lucky, oh well I'll try again. This time I got 7 diff scores so I avg them to get my prediction. all scores plus/minus 5 points

2626 Predicts:

13 - 9 T
20.5 - 14 T
20.5 - 12 T
38 - 17 T
50 - 15.4 T
27 - 13.5 T
24 - 11.5 T

AVG = Trinity wins 27.6-13.2 (28-14) I'll take it, probably a good possibility

I'd rather see the 50- 15 score:D less strain on the ol' heart

stinger
10-05-2008, 08:39 AM
oh here come the big ole trinity trojans

COLLEYVILLE WIN....

And they are the "big ole" boys you"ll never forget.

stinger
10-05-2008, 08:43 AM
I stepped back and took a good look at this one. I believe it will be a very good game with Colleyville coming out on top 35, 14! Trinity may have 17 or 21 if Colleyville makes a mistake!

I looked back at who they played and how they played ( CE ) not included!

Trinity "O" just seems to get the job done and can't play at there normal high level the hole game, where Colleyville stays up the hole game and we see that in there scoring!

Just my thoughts, what say YOU?


Guy :cool:

I say you should keep your thoughts in California. Trinity has had the answer for everything they have faced thus far; be it the pass or the run. They have faced size, speed, etc. They will face a tough Colleyville team, but the factor making the difference is the quality of the teams that Trinity has faced and beaten. They have the experience of facing those that have had the "target" on their backs at all levels, including nationally. Their opponents have a total of seven losses between them. Colleyville will match well, for a little while, then Trinity will adjust and take over, controlling the game till the end.

stinger
10-05-2008, 08:46 AM
But they have not done a Number on anyone and now roll into the best team they play this year! Trinity numbers are LOW!


But, who has Colleyville faced compared to Trinity? Not even close, with the extreme edge going to Trinity. Are you pumping them because of what happened earlier this season?
Your long distance analogies are way off the mark. It shows that you are a "paper analyzer" and don't have a grasp on the picture.

chhspantherfan
10-05-2008, 08:48 AM
I say you should keep your thought in California. Trinity has had the answer for evrything they have faced thus far; be it the pas or the run. They have faced size, speed, etc. They will face a tough Colleyville team, but the factor making th difference is the quality of the teams that Trinity has faced and beaten. They have the experience of facing those that have had the "target" on their backs at all levels, including nationally. Theirs opponents have a total of seven losses between them. Colleyville will match well, for a little while, then Trinity will adjust and take over, controlling the game till the end.

well said, we just don't match up. Sorry, maybe next time.:(

stinger
10-05-2008, 08:52 AM
HitMAN! We sucked! We won 42 19 but should have put up 60! We played all Jr.'s & Soph last night to keep from a blow out.

You know that's a lie!! Your record this year proves it. Your football knowledge about Trinity proves it!! I wish you could play Trinity, and learn some real football!!
California...land of the fruits and nuts!!

jbusch
10-05-2008, 08:56 AM
You know that's a lie!! Your record this year proves it. Your football knowledge about Trinity proves it!! I wish you could play Trinity, and learn some real football!!
California...land of the fruits and nuts!!
you forgot Flakes that's why it's the Granola state

Tsup
10-05-2008, 09:28 AM
Does anyone know the stats on CHS O-Line and fromt 7 on defense ? How do they stack up as far as size and speed. I just dont know a whole lot about them at this point. Do they run a 4 man front or 3 man front on defense and who are there best players on D ?

RicosRevenge
10-05-2008, 09:59 AM
Are you guys seriously comparing ET/CHHS using Fossil Ridge as a measuring stick on this game? Fossil Ridge got yardage in the second half after they were already down by 35 and CHHS pulled alot of defensive starters. The final score was 49-14. Using FR as a "common thread" is about as smart as using a screen door on a submarine.

Trinity doesn't put up big scoring numbers because they don't have to... their defense in unbelievable.

Call this one what it is lining up to be... easily the game of the year in 5-5a. It should be an old-fashoined "slobber-knocker" but it has the potential to become a blow out in either direction.

THSBandDad
10-05-2008, 11:23 AM
Are you guys seriously comparing ET/CHHS using Fossil Ridge as a measuring stick on this game? Fossil Ridge got yardage in the second half after they were already down by 35 and CHHS pulled alot of defensive starters. The final score was 49-14. Using FR as a "common thread" is about as smart as using a screen door on a submarine.

Trinity doesn't put up big scoring numbers because they don't have to... their defense in unbelievable.

Call this one what it is lining up to be... easily the game of the year in 5-5a. It should be an old-fashoined "slobber-knocker" but it has the potential to become a blow out in either direction.

You don't think Trinity pulled their starters in the second half against FR? Like Randy Galloway says on the radio, "Watch the :Censor: game!"

I don't think so, but if CH were to pull off a win this game, there is no way it is a blowout.

Cloviskid
10-05-2008, 12:21 PM
You know that's a lie!! Your record this year proves it. Your football knowledge about Trinity proves it!! I wish you could play Trinity, and learn some real football!!
California...land of the fruits and nuts!!

WOW your full of insight stinger :notworthy! Fruits and Nut? I never heard that one before! I thought Texans was tough? I guess for the most part as in California most are! I am telling you how I fell about the game coming up and all I hear is, Your team this, your team that,Fruits and Nut?! I have nothing to prove about my team!

I am telling you about the way I feel that Trinity is not playing up to there potential! There "D" looks very good! But for the most part there "O" is playing at a low level as compared to other years! A team like Keller ranked 1310 with one weapon that is a Jr. named Kelo Webster and they (Trinity)can only score 17 points? "O" and Keller had 10 points on the "D"!

So my prediction stands! Colleyville will win this game! Who knows I am from Ca. so I may be wrong! But if Im wrong its only going to be the score that Colleyville WIN's by!

Also stinger, given the chance Clovis East would play Trinity! We would rather play the best this country has to offer and go down in flames then play the Dog Schedule we got stuck with this year!


Guy

Cloviskid
10-05-2008, 12:28 PM
[/B]QUOTE] JBusch
you forgot Flakes that's why it's the Granola state[/QUOTE]

JBusch DUDE! There's no Flakes in Granola!

Sorry had to Clear That UP! I do know my Cereals!

Guy

stinger
10-05-2008, 01:38 PM
WOW your full of insight stinger :notworthy! Fruits and Nut? I never heard that one before! I thought Texans was tough? I guess for the most part as in California most are! I am telling you how I fell about the game coming up and all I hear is, Your team this, your team that,Fruits and Nut?! I have nothing to prove about my team!

I am telling you about the way I feel that Trinity is not playing up to there potential! There "D" looks very good! But for the most part there "O" is playing at a low level as compared to other years! A team like Keller ranked 1310 with one weapon that is a Jr. named Kelo Webster and they (Trinity)can only score 17 points? "O" and Keller had 10 points on the "D"!

So my prediction stands! Colleyville will win this game! Who knows I am from Ca. so I may be wrong! But if Im wrong its only going to be the score that Colleyville WIN's by!


Clovis East would play Trinity! We would rather play the best this country has to offer and go down in flames then play the Dog Schedule we got stuck with this year!


Guy


Which side are you going to speak from next? First you say Trinity can't win, they don't have what is necessary to beat CHHS. Then you say you would like the opportunity to play against the best this country has to offer. Which is it? Are you that confused? Maybe you should stick to something you "might" have a :rolleyes:very little information on....that is your team and area. Your feeble attempt to analyze this matchup and Trinity is like "pissin" in the wind. It will all come back on you.

TrojanHorse03
10-05-2008, 05:02 PM
I am telling you about the way I feel that Trinity is not playing up to there potential! There "D" looks very good! But for the most part there "O" is playing at a low level as compared to other years! A team like Keller ranked 1310 with one weapon that is a Jr. named Kelo Webster and they (Trinity)can only score 17 points? "O" and Keller had 10 points on the "D"!So my prediction stands! Colleyville will win this game! Who knows I am from Ca. so I may be wrong! But if Im wrong its only going to be the score that Colleyville WIN's by!


LOL how could I forget after only one week how Trinity is overrated because they only beat Keller by 7. You're not the first to suggest it or say it on the sly...only the latest. What was it from the Allen fans...Trinity was...disappointing. Well here's to a similarly "disappointing" performance this week ;)....

Maxthedog
10-05-2008, 05:39 PM
Trinity is overrated, ugly, slow and boring,,,oh,,,I almost forgot,,all they do is win and win and win! :)
Collies make it interesting early but can't hang the whole game.
I will say, beware of the team that has a good passing game and a 'what the hell, let's go for it attitude',,,If Trinity plays sloppy, could be trouble.

da hawaiian
10-05-2008, 07:42 PM
well said, we just don't match up. Sorry, maybe next time.:(

:)

You guys got a great team. I'm nervous in anticipation over this game, but to have this guy from Cali dismiss our team after three years of earning a rep...it's agrivating. But I'm over it now

CH by 21

THSBandDad
10-05-2008, 07:55 PM
:)

You guys got a great team. I'm nervous in anticipation over this game, but to have this guy from Cali dismiss our team after three years of earning a rep...it's agrivating. But I'm over it now

CH by 21

Do what?

farmerfan
10-05-2008, 08:10 PM
So Trinity's overratedness is even seen by those in California?
Good for you ClovisKid. You my friend are a smart smart man. You have realized that Trinity does run an outdated offense and they just can't keep up with those great spread teams like Colleyville. Trinity is so thankful that they had the first game on Labor Day andthey played JC. Had the rolls been rebversed then CH would have beaten JC by a lot and Trinity would have gotten beat by CE.
Trinity is in huge trouble starting this week. It was a fluke that they actually scored in the 40's last week.

THSBandDad
10-05-2008, 08:16 PM
So Trinity's overratedness is even seen by those in California?
Good for you ClovisKid. You my friend are a smart smart man. You have realized that Trinity does run an outdated offense and they just can't keep up with those great spread teams like Colleyville. Trinity is so thankful that they had the first game on Labor Day andthey played JC. Had the rolls been rebversed then CH would have beaten JC by a lot and Trinity would have gotten beat by CE.
Trinity is in huge trouble starting this week. It was a fluke that they actually scored in the 40's last week.

Gawd, you crack me up.

farmerfan
10-05-2008, 08:18 PM
WOW your full of insight stinger :notworthy! Fruits and Nut? I never heard that one before! I thought Texans was tough? I guess for the most part as in California most are! I am telling you how I fell about the game coming up and all I hear is, Your team this, your team that,Fruits and Nut?! I have nothing to prove about my team!

I am telling you about the way I feel that Trinity is not playing up to there potential! There "D" looks very good! But for the most part there "O" is playing at a low level as compared to other years! A team like Keller ranked 1310 with one weapon that is a Jr. named Kelo Webster and they (Trinity)can only score 17 points? "O" and Keller had 10 points on the "D"!

So my prediction stands! Colleyville will win this game! Who knows I am from Ca. so I may be wrong! But if Im wrong its only going to be the score that Colleyville WIN's by!

Also stinger, given the chance Clovis East would play Trinity! We would rather play the best this country has to offer and go down in flames then play the Dog Schedule we got stuck with this year!


Guy

Way to hold your ground wit the Trinity fans who are just in denial about their overratedness. They know it but won't admit it.
I think your score prediction is a little off though. Colleyville runs the spread and spread teams can put up points fast.
Trinity mainly runs from an I formation and sometimes an offset I and very rarely will they go 4 wide. They can't score nearly as fast as Colleyville can.
Colleyville knows what its like to score 40+ on a consistent basis and you have ot think nothing will change that this week.
Trinity on the other hand will struggle to break 20. So give Colleyville another 6+ points on your original prediction and you should just about have it.

farmerfan
10-05-2008, 08:24 PM
Gawd, you crack me up.

Thanks.
Glad I could help.

Tsup
10-05-2008, 09:03 PM
heck if trinity loses it might be the best thing that ever happened to them. You learn more about yourself from one loss than a 100 wins. What SLC did hasnt been done in texas but a very few times. What matters is the playoffs Both Trinity and heritage should learn more from this game than any other they will play till the playoffs start. I was hoping to get some insight from some colleyville fans and have a thread of substance. I'll never get upset when those who believe trinity wont win post thier opinion. Id sure like to see them put thier money where there mouth is on a weekly basis. Trinity is one team I wouldnt bet against :notworthy

THSBandDad
10-05-2008, 09:20 PM
Thanks.
Glad I could help.

I think you may actually be winning me over. I sit and watch the Trojan games week after week and wonder if they're ever going to pull out the win. I know they aren't going to score 50, or even 40 on a regular basis. I also watch teams run the spread and just tear the defense apart.

But just for the guy from California, let's take a look at the history of the Trojans over the last year plus and see just how really over-rated they must be.

A review of last year's district schedule run says they won't score 50, anyway. District scores of 34-10, 38-0, 24-0, 48-10, 31-0, 43-7, and 44-0 aren't really the thrashings that a real powerhouse would pull off. You know though, if you take away those late TD's that the third string defense kept giving up late in games, the D would have averaged holding the opposition to about a point per game.

Maybe we better take a look at the 2007 playoffs to prove how bad they really are. A 31-0 first game over Arl. Martin, then that 42-17 game against an unspoken opponent, then the revenge game against Permian that was not as close as the 38-14 score looks. (That's a total score of 111-31 against playoff teams, not impressive at all.) Only through luck and the grace of God did they slip past Bowie, Plano, and Converse Judson to win the D1 Championship.

This year? Let's see. They slipped by that nationally ranked John Curtis team by a score of 28-12. Then they took on a ranked Cedar Hill team, in Cedar Hill, by a score of 37-14 (reserves gave up another late score and I seem to recall taking a knee on the one yard line instead of scoring again). Then that pesky Allen team that was ranked pretty highly fell to the Trojans 24-14 in their own house. Of course, Trinity did give up a whole 10 points to that spread offense of Keller and only outscored lowly Fossil Ridge 45-3.

Let me see. If I add up last year's district games, last year's playoff games, and the first games this year, I get a total score of 588-162 over 18 games (average of almost 33 to 9). And that isn't even throwing out the late game backup defense giving up scores or how many times they took a knee late in the game instead of running up the score. And when you consider that three of last year's playoff teams had made it to the Regional Finals, State semi-finals, and State Championship and three of this year's opponents were Nationally ranked, they just must not be a very good team.

But you and I already know they're a terrible team with an outdated offense. :D

jbusch
10-05-2008, 09:55 PM
[/B]QUOTE] JBusch
you forgot Flakes that's why it's the Granola state

JBusch DUDE! There's no Flakes in Granola!

Sorry had to Clear That UP! I do know my Cereals!

Guy[/QUOTE]
Granola contains rolled oats in flake form
smaller that corn flakes more like oatmeal sized, you:) don't know Texas HS Football or granola

RicosRevenge
10-05-2008, 10:53 PM
Good Lord... I thought the SLC attitude would be gone as they were moved out of 5-5a... but I guess no matter what, there is always a band parent right there defending "their" team.

Learn how to read band boy (or girl) dad. I never threatened Trinity's holiness. I completely realize (and hope) that ET pulled their starters as any good coach would do... all the more reason my point was valid. FR didn't face either teams full strength.

Here is another interpretation of my original message that may be easier for you to understand:

"This should be a good game. Both teams have played well so far this year. But there is a possibility of CHHS completely falling apart and getting run over; just as there is a possibility that ET falls apart and gets "passed" over."

I have no idea what that chip is on your shoulder for. CHHS has always supported ET and vice versa. As a (ex)FOOTBALL parent, I have shared stories around many beers and pizzas with ET parents at Zuroma's after games and it has always been positive.

THSBandDad
10-05-2008, 11:21 PM
Good Lord... I thought the SLC attitude would be gone as they were moved out of 5-5a... but I guess no matter what, there is always a band parent right there defending "their" team.

Learn how to read band boy (or girl) dad. I never threatened Trinity's holiness. I completely realize (and hope) that ET pulled their starters as any good coach would do... all the more reason my point was valid. FR didn't face either teams full strength.

Here is another interpretation of my original message that may be easier for you to understand:

"This should be a good game. Both teams have played well so far this year. But there is a possibility of CHHS completely falling apart and getting run over; just as there is a possibility that ET falls apart and gets "passed" over."

I have no idea what that chip is on your shoulder for. CHHS has always supported ET and vice versa. As a (ex)FOOTBALL parent, I have shared stories around many beers and pizzas with ET parents at Zuroma's after games and it has always been positive.

I apologize if I misunderstood the intent of your post. After re-reading it, and my response, I did. You were right that FR cannot be used as a yardstick for how this game will come out.

The main point of my reply was just a question about how you figured a blowout either way. I see it as a tough game for both sides and a close one. Trinity seldom has a blow-out win. And the defense is probably going to prevent one against them. So, having said that, I see this as a 27-24 or 24-21 game, winner to be decided on Friday at Pennington.

No chip. And I don't believe in ET's "holiness". They're a team that can be beat and CHHS might be one to do it. It just won't be a blowout (my point!).

By the way, I'm actually less comfortable "expecting" an ET win this year than I felt last year. They scare me occasionally on defense when they "bend" and the offense puts the ball on the ground a little too often. And my other rant/post was really pointed at clovis.

As far as your statement about a parent defending "their" team, you'll notice that I don't ever refer to them as "we" or "our". That should be resolved to coaches, players, and probably even the other students. I don't recall ever seeing a parent make a tackle or catch a pass.

Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. I expect an exciting game on Friday.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 06:56 AM
Farmer and Cloviskid do not represent CHHS and therefore their comments should be stricken from the record. The CHHS family would like to thank ET for hosting the game this week, as we know that it is your homecoming. As such, you have scheduled an opponent typical of Homecoming opponents. Our hope is that we come through this game healthy as we are much smaller, slower, and less physical than ET. You deserve all of the praise that you are getting as you have proven yourself on the ultimate stage, THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. We have not proven anything. So it is really not even close as to the outcome. Please go easy on us in the 4th quarter as even your 2s and 3s are in a class by themselves. Thank you.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 07:00 AM
Colleyville Heritage vs. Euless Trinity

05:40 PM CDT on Sunday, October 5, 2008
http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/content/gameweek/stories/100608dnspospotlightgame.e3a7a0bc.html


Area 5A No. 7 Coll. Heritage (5-0) vs. No. 1 Euless Trinity (5-0) , 7:30 p.m. Friday at Bedford's Pennington Field.

These teams have not met since the 2003 season. Colleyville Heritage senior quarterback Steven Hill leads an offense averaging 393.8 yards and 43.2 points per game. Trinity is currently the third-ranked team in the country and has five players in Rivals.com's top 100 state recruiting rankings, including defensive backs Eryon Barnett (a Texas recruit) and Prinz Kande (a Kansas recruit).
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see what I mean! Wow!

stinger
10-06-2008, 07:05 AM
Farmer and Cloviskid do not represent CHHS and therefore their comments should be stricken from the record. The CHHS family would like to thank ET for hosting the game this week, as we know that it is your homecoming. As such, you have scheduled an opponent typical of Homecoming opponents. Our hope is that we come through this game healthy as we are much smaller, slower, and less physical than ET. You deserve all of the praise that you are getting as you have proven yourself on the ultimate stage, THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. We have not proven anything. So it is really not even close as to the outcome. Please go easy on us in the 4th quarter as even your 2s and 3s are in a class by themselves. Thank you.


Ain't gonna work. Many have tried your reverse psychology, and all have failed. Trinity will prepare well as usual. Maybe I shoild have someone I know post this on the CHHS lockerroom so the boys can see the support they have from their own. Is that a good psychological strategy?:D

stinger
10-06-2008, 07:09 AM
Farmer and Cloviskid do not represent CHHS and therefore their comments should be stricken from the record. The CHHS family would like to thank ET for hosting the game this week, as we know that it is your homecoming. As such, you have scheduled an opponent typical of Homecoming opponents. Our hope is that we come through this game healthy as we are much smaller, slower, and less physical than ET. You deserve all of the praise that you are getting as you have proven yourself on the ultimate stage, THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. We have not proven anything. So it is really not even close as to the outcome. Please go easy on us in the 4th quarter as even your 2s and 3s are in a class by themselves. Thank you.



In addition, Trinity is third in ONE poll. They are ranked first in THREE or FOUR other polls. Which one do you believe? That is personal preference.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 07:09 AM
Ain't gonna work. Many have tried your reverse psychology, and all have failed. Trinity will prepare well as usual. Maybe I shoild have someone I know post this on the CHHS lockerroom so the boys can see the support they have from their own. Is that a good psychological strategy?:D

They are smart enough to know not to read bulletin board material.......;)

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 07:12 AM
Heritage stats to date

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/schoolinfo.htm?propertyId=1&sportId=3&schoolId=1089&infoType=teamStats


Trinity stats to date

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/schoolinfo.htm?propertyId=1&sportId=3&schoolId=1222&infoType=teamStats

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 07:13 AM
In addition, Trinity is third in ONE poll. They are ranked first in THREE or FOUR other polls. Which one do you believe? That is personal preference.

I believe they are #1 in the country. You?

I also believe they are tied with Bell and Heritage for the district lead.

stinger
10-06-2008, 08:28 AM
I believe they are #1 in the country. You?

I also believe they are tied with Bell and Heritage for the district lead.



You don't really know WHERE I live (not in Colleyvile)....I use Colleyville "just because"....and it works. The tie will be broken with CHHS Friday. Bring plenty of ice and bandages for your boys. This will be a new definition of smash mouth. You can bring up all the offensive stats you want. But remember that Trinity doesn't let the opposition have the ball very long. If you check the defensive stats, that is where the story lies. They can stop the run, intercept the pass, etc.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 08:32 AM
The tie will be broken with CHHS Friday.

yes, it will. And I expect the Panthers to be undefeated come Saturday morning. :D

dragonpants
10-06-2008, 08:37 AM
Ive seen the improvements and position changes Trinity's made half way through the year. Just wondering how Heriatage sees there strengths on defense and what heritage fans see as the key to the game this next friday. Mr head looks like he finally had a really substantial night running the ball. Who are the D1 prospects on heritages roster. And whatever else anyone might want to include so we can watch the small battles that make up the overall game

Colleyville will have to find a way to rest their defense, which is always difficult running the spread but if Trinity is too far ahead in time of possession they will probably win. They are so big and the Colleyville front 7-8 depending on the scheme Friday night can be worn down by the middle of the 3rd quarter by that huge offensive line leaning on them.
I do not know enough about the depth of CH's defense to know if they have enough talent to sub in and out to keep guys fresh.
So the question of how to play ball control and have reasonably long drives in the spread is not something I can answer, probably why no one is beating down my door to coach.:D
If Colleyville can get a few stops they have the talent to win this game.

stinger
10-06-2008, 08:44 AM
Colleyville will have to find a way to rest their defense, which is always difficult running the spread but if Trinity is too far ahead in time of possession they will probably win. They are so big and the Colleyville front 7-8 depending on the scheme Friday night can be worn down by the middle of the 3rd quarter by that huge offensive line leaning on them.
I do not know enough about the depth of CH's defense to know if they have enough talent to sub in and out to keep guys fresh.
So the question of how to play ball control and have reasonably long drives in the spread is not something I can answer, probably why no one is beating down my door to coach.:D
If Colleyville can get a few stops they have the talent to win this game.

Good points. However, They don't have the depth, talent, ball control ability, stamina, etc. They will not be there in the end, when it counts.
Trinity beat teams that would beat Colleyville: John Curtis, Allen, Cedar Hill, and maybe others.:D

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Colleyville will have to find a way to rest their defense, which is always difficult running the spread but if Trinity is too far ahead in time of possession they will probably win. They are so big and the Colleyville front 7-8 depending on the scheme Friday night can be worn down by the middle of the 3rd quarter by that huge offensive line leaning on them.
I do not know enough about the depth of CH's defense to know if they have enough talent to sub in and out to keep guys fresh.
So the question of how to play ball control and have reasonably long drives in the spread is not something I can answer, probably why no one is beating down my door to coach.:D
If Colleyville can get a few stops they have the talent to win this game.

i would be real surprised if we put more than 7 in the box. I think trinity is good enough in the passing game to take advantage of that. As you say, it will be won in the trenches. Our bigs are pretty good in their own right, as are Trinity's. This won't be our first game against a reigning state champion, so i do not think we have that to deal with. ought to be pretty electric atmosphere :D

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 08:51 AM
Good points. However, They don't have the depth, talent, ball control ability, stamina, etc. They will not be there in the end, when it counts.
Trinity beat teams that would beat Colleyville: John Curtis, Allen, Cedar Hill, and maybe others.:D

source?:rolleyes:

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 09:00 AM
While Trinity is small, slow and easily distracted by shiny objects, I believe they have a slight edge over CHHS based on these two reasons:

(I preface my remarks by stating the obvious: I am not a football expert; just a fan for 20 years or so. My opinions on football should be ranked along with those of Catherine de Medici, who died in the 1500's.)

1. The senior core of this team has been in more "big games" than CHHS. Going back to last year's playoff run they have won close games against Plano, Bowie, Judson and Permian (Ok, that one was not so close). This year they have gone to Cedar Hill and Allen -- both very difficult places to play -- and come away with wins. This group has been through the wars and will not panic if they fall behind. It's a very special, veteran group of leaders.

2. I believe that because Trinity sees a spread team every week, they will be prepared for whatever CHHS throws at them, literally. The Trinity defense has become pretty good at defending the spread because it is just about all they have seen for the past two years -- with the exception of John Curtis and Judson. On the other hand, CHHS doesn't face a power running team every week (especially not one with a dangerous passing game to compliment it) and they have five days to prepare for something they just haven't seen much of. Yes, there was Clovis......but, they are not the same animal as Trinity. Not by a long shot.

I think absent of a flurry of turnovers, this game will be close. But, in the end, I think Trinity will pull off the win.

Yes, I'm a homer.

Tsup
10-06-2008, 09:03 AM
We just watched ball control with the spread offense when we played keller. It's failry easy to do, short passes and dont call your play till 10 seconds is left on the play clock. Its not real hard to control the clock with a spread. The big danger with the spread is turnovers. Colleyville stays turnover free and this will be a dog fight.:eek:

dragonpants
10-06-2008, 09:04 AM
well said, we just don't match up. Sorry, maybe next time.:(

You guys just going to forfeit?

stinger
10-06-2008, 09:15 AM
source?:rolleyes:

I was there...I have seen all three, and CHHS.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 09:29 AM
(I preface my remarks by stating the obvious: I am not a football expert; just a fan for 20 years or so. My opinions on football should be ranked along with those of Catherine de Medici, who died in the 1500's.)



Brilliant:D

Fleeman93
10-06-2008, 09:30 AM
Trinity wins.

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 09:49 AM
I'm not a big believer in time of possession. Fossil Ridge had the edge in time of possession (at least in the first half) last Thursday...and they lost by 42. What matters IMO is the efficiency with which you score on those posessions. If you have the ball 10 times, own the TOP and only score once, you probably lose.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 09:54 AM
I'm not a big believer in time of possession. Fossil Ridge had the edge in time of possession (at least in the first half) last Thursday...and they lost by 42. What matters IMO is the efficiency with which you score on those posessions. If you have the ball 10 times, own the TOP and only score once, you probably lose.

yep.

dragonpants
10-06-2008, 10:12 AM
I'm not a big believer in time of possession. Fossil Ridge had the edge in time of possession (at least in the first half) last Thursday...and they lost by 42. What matters IMO is the efficiency with which you score on those posessions. If you have the ball 10 times, own the TOP and only score once, you probably lose.

While this is true, you must take everything into account. FR offense is not in the same league as CH. Look at the other side of the score. How much would ya'll have won by had you controlled TOP?

stinger
10-06-2008, 10:12 AM
I'm not a big believer in time of possession. Fossil Ridge had the edge in time of possession (at least in the first half) last Thursday...and they lost by 42. What matters IMO is the efficiency with which you score on those posessions. If you have the ball 10 times, own the TOP and only score once, you probably lose.

That supports what I have been saying. Trinity has been very efficient at both possessions, and scoring. They have also been very good at stopping the other team when needed. CHHS may have the ball more often than Trinity, but they will be stopped, whereas Trinity will score more often. That has been the story time and again for Trinity. They usually rule the clock, but when they score quickly, they hold the other team. Lineweaver is very proficient at preparing the players for the opposition. It will show Friday.

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 10:18 AM
Mr. Pants.....I absolutely agree with you. I didn't mean to imply that FR = CHHS. Just was talking about TOP in general.

Tsup
10-06-2008, 10:23 AM
Time of possesion matters if you dont have the ball you cant score, penalties, turnovers, and keeping the offense off the field and the D on the field all matters. Thats how Lineweaver wins close games. It's a time tested formula. First win the turnover battle by running the ball and balancing your offense. Second win the time of possesion battle by again running the ball. Third dont kill yourself with penalties which is and has always been the weak link with Trinity. The defense gets a few 3 and out and this time of posession stat will become very evident in it's n benefit.

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 10:29 AM
TOP is only important if you score at the end of the drive. I doubt if SLC has paid much attention to TOP in years.

dragonpants
10-06-2008, 10:33 AM
Mr. Pants.....I absolutely agree with you. I didn't mean to imply that FR = CHHS. Just was talking about TOP in general.

Yes in most instances in High School Football can be irrelevant. From the Carroll perspective we have had many huge wins where the opponent had a larger TOP.
I think it is important in this game because your bigs are bigger than theirs and you have more depth so if this game is close going into the 4th quarter, CH D-line could be worn out. Not saying the CH is not in good shape but have all the stamina you want when you have that line and their size pounding on you, it is going to wear you down.

Tsup
10-06-2008, 10:37 AM
very true and the only way anyone beats SLC then or now is to dominate the clock. You dont keep SLC's offense off the field or Trinity's for that matter you are most surely going to get your :Censor: kicked :)

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 10:42 AM
Yep, very few teams are going to win in a shoot-out against SLC. That's why they're what.....95 - 3 since moving up?

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 10:45 AM
very true and the only way anyone beats SLC then or now is to dominate the clock.

I have to disagree with you, that's a myth that's untrue. The really good teams don't even really think about T.O.P or holding the ball, they just try to do what they do to win every game score and play defense. Southlake has been one of the best offensive teams in the country since 2002 but they weren't/aren't unstoppable.

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 10:51 AM
No one is unstoppable. However, I'd take the 95 - 3 record as a pretty good indication that it is hard to do.

slcdragonfan
10-06-2008, 10:56 AM
So, in looking at who Trinity has played, I would say maybe Allen is the most comparable to CHHS, anybody disagree? Trinity seemed to handle Allen pretty well. Not sure what CHHS has for a D. Any feedback there?
:ninja:

Tsup
10-06-2008, 11:02 AM
This is the point, though SLC might not depend on time of possesion any team trying to beat them will not win without dominating the time of possesion.
It doesnt matter to the teams that can score at will, it matters to the teams that are trying to stay in the game and win it in the 4th quarter.
You wont beat Trinity or SLC without winning the TOP, turnovers and penalty battle

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 11:02 AM
We are bigger across the front than in years past. Our defensive strength, IMO, is the linebacking corp. Very athletic and smart. This is by far our toughest test, but we are up to the challenge and ready to go. Speaking for the fans of course. Coach Fuller will have the team ready and it will be a great game.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 11:03 AM
This is the point, though SLC might not depend on time of possesion any team trying to beat them will not win without dominating the time of possesion.
It doesnt matter to the teams that can score at will, it matters to the teams that are trying to stay in the game and win it in the 4th quarter.
You wont beat Trinity or SLC without winning the TOP, turnovers and penalty battle

unless of course, you outscore them:cool:

Tsup
10-06-2008, 11:04 AM
how well does chhs qb run ? that was close to all of allens running game ?

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 11:05 AM
how well does chhs qb run ? that was close to all of allens running game ?

His strength is his accuracy.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-06-2008, 11:06 AM
It's only Monday and this is getting good!!!

GO TROJANS!!!

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 11:09 AM
No one is unstoppable. However, I'd take the 95 - 3 record as a pretty good indication that it is hard to do.

Agreed but let's give those teams who beat them credit by not just chalking it up to playing keep away. They had defenses that were as skilled as those Southlake offenses and were good enough to deny them enough to win regardless of how much they're offenses had the ball. There have been defenses that as a unit were as good as the mythical Southlake offense.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 11:12 AM
It's on Monday and this is getting good!!!

GO TROJANS!!!

I've got a busy next few days, thought i would get mine in early;)


Look forward to Friday night!!!!

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 11:14 AM
So, in looking at who Trinity has played, I would say maybe Allen is the most comparable to CHHS, anybody disagree? Trinity seemed to handle Allen pretty well. Not sure what CHHS has for a D. Any feedback there?
:ninja:

I think Colleyville may be better offensively than Allen this year.

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 11:34 AM
Can't believe nobody has posted about uniforms yet.
One of the areas Trinity always win is in the uniform department. Teams are always very terrified of playing a team wearing black and red. Well that lucky factor for Trinity ends this week. The Colleyville Red and Black color scheme is scarier than Trinity's since they tend to use a darker shade of black and a sharper shade of red and it will play a major part as Colleyville exposes Trinity's overratedness once and for all.

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 11:35 AM
I think Colleyville may be better offensively than Allen this year.

Duh.

Remember, Allen isn't that good anyways.

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 11:36 AM
Duh.

Remember, Allen isn't that good anyways.

Yeah you're right and we're not that good either.

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 11:44 AM
Yeah you're right and we're not that good either.

That's why I've always liked you TrojanHorse03, you call it like it is and never put homer glasses on. You knew too after only beating Keller by 7 and scoring 17 that you guys were/are overrated.

stinger
10-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Can't believe nobody has posted about uniforms yet.
One of the areas Trinity always win is in the uniform department. Teams are always very terrified of playing a team wearing black and red. Well that lucky factor for Trinity ends this week. The Colleyville Red and Black color scheme is scarier than Trinity's since they tend to use a darker shade of black and a sharper shade of red and it will play a major part as Colleyville exposes Trinity's overratedness once and for all.



Problem is that Colleyvill will be wearing their white uni's. OOOPPPSSS!!

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Problem is that Colleyvill will be wearing their white uni's. OOOPPPSSS!!

So their uniforms areall white?
Even numbers and lettering? The stripes?
Even the helmets?

I'll see your ooopppsss and raise ya a DOOOOHHHH!!!!

stinger
10-06-2008, 12:07 PM
So their uniforms areall white?
Even numbers and lettering? The stripes?
Even the helmets?

I'll see your ooopppsss and raise ya a DOOOOHHHH!!!!

Pretty much all white. The numbers don't have enough black to really notice. Besides, the black is the traditional Trinity Beast color. Good guys wear black.
Call your doh!!

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:30 PM
While this is true, you must take everything into account. FR offense is not in the same league as CH. Look at the other side of the score. How much would ya'll have won by had you controlled TOP?

Fossil ridge also averages about 400 yds a game....until they got about 140 against Trinity

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:34 PM
We are bigger across the front than in years past. Our defensive strength, IMO, is the linebacking corp. Very athletic and smart. This is by far our toughest test, but we are up to the challenge and ready to go. Speaking for the fans of course. Coach Fuller will have the team ready and it will be a great game.

Your linebackers and db's ARE the key. Trinity's linemen will be down field punching them in the mouth. Trinity USUALLY is tackled in the 2nd to 3rd level of the def.

Tsup
10-06-2008, 12:34 PM
hmm must be a slow year in Farmer land ;o)

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:36 PM
Can't believe nobody has posted about uniforms yet.
One of the areas Trinity always win is in the uniform department. Teams are always very terrified of playing a team wearing black and red. Well that lucky factor for Trinity ends this week. The Colleyville Red and Black color scheme is scarier than Trinity's since they tend to use a darker shade of black and a sharper shade of red and it will play a major part as Colleyville exposes Trinity's overratedness once and for all.

The red is not as noticeable at home, since the new Black NIKE uniforms doesn't use as much red shadow, and the numbers are smaller.

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 12:40 PM
Trinity USUALLY is tackled in the 2nd to 3rd level of the def.

Not versus Keller.

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:48 PM
Not versus Keller.

Maybe you missed the big USUALLY in that post.:D

Tantal
10-06-2008, 12:49 PM
Why is it that ever time Trinity plays a halfway decent team, it gets labeled the "week of the upset" by the internet prognosticators? There are some who predicted a 0-3 start for the Trojans.

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:50 PM
Not versus Keller.

I also think if they played again, Trinity would not have the big let-down they did against them the first time. Just my opinion, but I think Trinity would win by a lot more this time.

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 12:52 PM
hmm must be a slow year in Farmer land ;o)

We lacked the rainfall we needed so yes it has been slower than we would have liked on our land.

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:52 PM
Why is it that ever time Trinity plays a halfway decent team, it gets labeled the "week of the upset" by the internet prognosticators? There are some who predicted a 0-3 start for the Trojans.

When you don't blow people out you get mocked, even though the ones they faced that usually avg 40 points a game,.....don't. That is better than scoring 40 points any day,

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 12:53 PM
Pretty much all white. The numbers don't have enough black to really notice. Besides, the black is the traditional Trinity Beast color. Good guys wear black.
Call your doh!!

Good guys wear may wear black but not good teams that run the ball.
So my Doh tops your opps and I am right yet again.

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:54 PM
We lacked the rainfall we needed so yes it has been slower than we would have liked on our land.

What are you growing? More schools?:eek: I remember when it was just Lewisville. then came FM Marcus, then Marcus and FM, then Hebron......geez.

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 12:55 PM
When you don't blow people out you get mocked, even though everyone they faced, that usually avgs 40 points a game,.....didn't. That is better than scoring 40 points any day,

Thats funny.
He actually thinks it can be classified as a good win without the 40 involved.:notworthy

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:56 PM
Thats funny.
He actually thinks it can be classified as a good win without the 40 involved.:notworthy

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 12:57 PM
What are you growing? More schools?:eek: I remember when it was just Lewisville. then came FM Marcus, then Marcus and FM, then Hebron......geez.

Thats a good question as to what we're growing. I dont even thinkthe people enchage know.

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 12:57 PM
Maybe you missed the big USUALLY in that post.:D

I know, I just think this is a week where we should completely disregard what Trinity has done in the past(something we should do every week now that I think about it). Colleyville is not those teams. I hope Trinity will play a better game this week then they have so far as part of their goal to get better each week as a opposed to worse. Looking back instead of at the NEXT is how programs and communities become complacent.

TheScout
10-06-2008, 12:58 PM
I know, I just think this is a week where we should completely disregard what Trinity has done in the past(something we should do every week now that I think about it). Colleyville is not those teams. I hope Trinity will play a better game this week then they have so far as part of their goal to get better each week as a opposed to worse. Looking back instead of at the NEXT is how programs and communities become complacent.

agreed

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 01:26 PM
Does anyone know the stats on CHS O-Line and fromt 7 on defense ? How do they stack up as far as size and speed. I just dont know a whole lot about them at this point. Do they run a 4 man front or 3 man front on defense and who are there best players on D ?

In addition to known defensive playmakers in LB Bobby Schneider (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=83320&sport=1)(136 tackles 8 sacks, and District 5-5A defensive MVP last year and 5atxfb 1st team this year), speedy CB/WR Eddie Foster (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=69868&sport=1), and defensive tackle Matt Hornbuckle (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=83321&sport=1) Scout lists 4 other possible D1 prospects(2 more on both sides of the ball) for Colleyville Heritage so far http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=2&nid=5575&yr=2008 . I believe Colleyville has 6 starters on defense and 5 on offense who started last year as well.

Here's some highlights of Schneider from 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AoWCKT5tM&feature=related . Here's also some Texasprep.net video on underrated RB Bryan head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0NmkxnJ4vU .

stinger
10-06-2008, 02:38 PM
Good guys wear may wear black but not good teams that run the ball.
So my Doh tops your opps and I am right yet again.


In this case the black hat will ride off into the sunset with the victory.

farmerfan
10-06-2008, 02:44 PM
In this case the black hat will ride off into the sunset with the victory.

:eek::notworthy

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 03:15 PM
"Look forward to Friday night!!!!"

It's homecoming so don't forget to wear a mum. That reminds me; get ready for the never ending halftime. I usually just run home and take a nap.

stinger
10-06-2008, 03:21 PM
Hey FARMER!!!!
I wanna see you in a BIG RED MUM at the T:D:notworthyrinity game!!!

TheScout
10-06-2008, 03:22 PM
"Look forward to Friday night!!!!"

It's homecoming so don't forget to wear a mum. That reminds me; get ready for the never ending halftime. I usually just run home and take a nap.
:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 03:32 PM
Your linebackers and db's ARE the key. Trinity's linemen will be down field punching them in the mouth. Trinity USUALLY is tackled in the 2nd to 3rd level of the def.

In addition to known defensive playmakers in LB Bobby Schneider (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk51IrHx6CM)(136 tackles 8 sacks, and District 5-5A defensive MVP last year and 5atxfb 1st team this year), speedy CB/WR Eddie Foster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk51IrHx6CM), and defensive tackle Matt Hornbuckle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk51IrHx6CM) Scout lists 4 other possible D1 prospects(2 more on both sides of the ball) for Colleyville Heritage so far http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=2&nid=5575&yr=2008 . I believe Colleyville has 6 starters on defense and 5 on offense who started last year as well.

Here's some highlights of Schneider from 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk51IrHx6CM . Here's also some Texasprep.net video on underrated RB Bryan head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk51IrHx6CM .

As you can see from the above clips, we have much to learn.;)

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 03:39 PM
According to some Trinity will be going up against 5-5A's best defense Friday night.

The 2007 5A Division I state champions are loaded with great talent, especially along the offensive and defensive lines. They’re the pre-season No. 1 team in the National Prep Poll.

Really, the best choice to make a run at them is going to be Colleyville Heritage. The Panthers arguably have the best defense in the district, and with a year of learning Mike Fuller’s philosophy, the offense may be more productive. http://www.kellercitizen.com/103/story/10657.html

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 03:44 PM
I don't argue that CHHS is going to be a huge challenge. And, there's no question that this may be the best offense Trinity has faced, but I'm not sure about them having the best defense in 5-5A. They gave up 400+ yards to Fossil Ridge which seemed to not have much firepower Thursday night.

I guess we'll just see.

TheScout
10-06-2008, 03:51 PM
I don't argue that CHHS is going to be a huge challenge. And, there's no question that this may be the best offense Trinity has faced, but I'm not sure about them having the best defense in 5-5A. They gave up 400+ yards to Fossil Ridge which seemed to not have much firepower Thursday night.

I guess we'll just see.

I agree. Trinity has played tough teams all year, except FR. CHHS has not faced a tough team yet. MAYBE Clovis was.:confused:

da hawaiian
10-06-2008, 04:06 PM
His strength is his accuracy.

Undoubtedly. If the Trojans can't get to him back there, it will be a long night.

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Undoubtedly. If the Trojans can't get to him back there, it will be a long night.

hey, there you are. I am anxious to see that battle. Will be one of the keys. 99 hours and 20 minutes until kickoff:D

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 04:32 PM
How did you think #26 looked last week playing defense? Looked like he has some nice quickness coming off the edge.

TrojanBandEX
10-06-2008, 04:57 PM
I know, I just think this is a week where we should completely disregard what Trinity has done in the past(something we should do every week now that I think about it).

Naahh!! Haven't you heard the phrase "We've done it before, we can do it again"? Past accomplishments help fuel future ones. I guarantee you the team looks to their successes in past games...they wouldn't be human if they didn't. Fans should think the same way. We don't need superstitions.

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 05:09 PM
Naahh!! Haven't you heard the phrase "We've done it before, we can do it again"? Past accomplishments help fuel future ones. I guarantee you the team looks to their successes in past games...they wouldn't be human if they didn't. Fans should think the same way. We don't need superstitions.

So I guess all that stuff Coach Lineweaver preaches about NEXT is all BS and superstition just cause you say so, huh?

Tsup
10-06-2008, 05:22 PM
How did you think #26 looked last week playing defense? Looked like he has some nice quickness coming off the edge.
cristo has great speed 4.5 and has played some linebacker last year, hes a fullback thats converting and will add real depth to the line rotation. one thing is for sure he can run down most any qb who decide they want to take off

da hawaiian
10-06-2008, 05:24 PM
hey, there you are. I am anxious to see that battle. Will be one of the keys. 99 hours and 20 minutes until kickoff:D

I was hoping to make the BBQ at NMAIN, but my boys Peewee practice will be goin on

chhspantherfan
10-06-2008, 05:25 PM
cristo has great speed 4.5 and has played some linebacker last year, hes a fullback thats converting and will add real depth to the line rotation. one thing is for sure he can run down most any qb who decide they want to take off

note to self, watch #26 Cristo.....he is a player. 4.5 and all........









:D

trojanbacker
10-06-2008, 06:07 PM
He'll be in the rotation. He was a pretty good running back but with the depth Trinity has there, they're using his speed on the other side of the ball. Not a huge guy (listed at 6'2, 208).

Cloviskid
10-06-2008, 06:17 PM
:)

You guys got a great team. I'm nervous in anticipation over this game, but to have this guy from Cali dismiss our team after three years of earning a rep...it's agrivating. But I'm over it now

CH by 21

Who "dismiss" your team? da hawaiian if it was me? Im sorry im not disrespecting your team, just trying get in some knew blood!

Here Ya Go, this song for you DaHawaiian!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HzXI_ApY4dY

TrojanBandEX
10-06-2008, 09:16 PM
So I guess all that stuff Coach Lineweaver preaches about NEXT is all BS and superstition just cause you say so, huh?

Because I say so? Of course not. I am saying we should be real. Telling ones self that a critical piece of their past success should be ignored so as not to cause a lack of focus for a future success is a way of giving credence and power to the idea of a "jinx", and is a fearful or abject state of mind resulting from such irrational thoughts. It is superstition. I don't think Coach Lineweaver is going that far with it; but it is clear that many of the fans and parents connected to Trinity are. You're constantly afraid that if you think the wrong thought or say the wrong thing that the team's success will falter and collapse.

You think Coach told the team to put last year's first Permian game out of their thoughts, or the sting of the SLC game, or the SGP game in '05? I'll bet he wanted them to remember. In the same way, their victories need to be revisited, not squelched, as if they would really be expected to do that!

Winning is contagious...and Trinity is a very "sick" team. That is for real!

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 09:45 PM
Because I say so? Of course not. I am saying we should be real. Telling ones self that a critical piece of their past success should be ignored so as not to cause a lack of focus for a future success is a way of giving credence and power to the idea of a "jinx", and is a fearful or abject state of mind resulting from such irrational thoughts. It is superstition. I don't think Coach Lineweaver is going that far with it; but it is clear that many of the fans and parents connected to Trinity are. You're constantly afraid that if you think the wrong thought or say the wrong thing that the team's success will falter and collapse.

You think Coach told the team to put last year's first Permian game out of their thoughts, or the sting of the SLC game, or the SGP game in '05? I'll bet he wanted them to remember. In the same way, their victories need to be revisited, not squelched, as if they would really be expected to do that!

Winning is contagious...and Trinity is a very "sick" team. That is for real!

Where our you getting this being about a jinx? I guess that's the danger you fall into when you copy and paste one sentence from my post and make an assumption.

I said to disregard what Trinity has done in the past not forget what Trinity has done. No week or opponent is like the previous, even from year to year(example Permian from 2006 to 2007, SGP from 2004 to 2005, and countless other examples I guess you forgot about) in this case Colleyville is our opponent this week and will provide it's own challenges.

Perhaps for a band ex it may seem like Trinity has its success based on what its done before or because it has a sick team. But what you may have forgotten(if you ever knew) that success is due to a process that has to be done all over again(regardless of what you did even last week) each week focusing on the opponent not yet defeated not dwelling on outcomes that have already been determined.

In not sure what they do in discussions at band camp but if you're gonna reference the past in a football discussion it's usually a good idea to explain how it's relevant to the results on this week's scoreboard.

TrojanMom88
10-06-2008, 11:04 PM
Where our you getting this being about a jinx? I guess that's the danger you fall into when you copy and paste one sentence from my post and make an assumption.

I said to disregard what Trinity has done in the past not forget what Trinity has done. No week or opponent is like the previous, even from year to year(example Permian from 2006 to 2007, SGP from 2004 to 2005, and countless other examples I guess you forgot about) in this case Colleyville is our opponent this week and will provide it's own challenges.

Perhaps for a band ex it may seem like Trinity has its success based on what its done before or because it has a sick team. But what you may have forgotten(if you ever knew) that success is due to a process that has to be done all over again(regardless of what you did even last week) each week focusing on the opponent not yet defeated not dwelling on outcomes that have already been determined.

In not sure what they do in discussions at band camp but if you're gonna reference the past in a football discussion it's usually a good idea to explain how it's relevant to the results on this week's scoreboard.

:notworthy:notworthy I wonder where some of this comes from.

Who's next? Is about moving on to a common goal.... This week CHHS...Then Keller Central, Then Grapevine, Then Justin Northwest, Then Bell an so on... It is not a supersition...It is a work ethic...simple, plan and true!!!!

TrojanBandEX
10-06-2008, 11:09 PM
Where our you getting this being about a jinx? I guess that's the danger you fall into when you copy and paste one sentence from my post and make an assumption.
OK... I know, I just think this is a week where we should completely disregard what Trinity has done in the past(something we should do every week now that I think about it). Colleyville is not those teams. I hope Trinity will play a better game this week then they have so far as part of their goal to get better each week as a opposed to worse. Looking back instead of at the NEXT is how programs and communities become complacent.There...feel better? I saw no clarification in the remaining text. I was observing the mindgame you and others here play whenever an assumption is made regarding the possible outcome of a game; it's a "jinx" mentality.

I said to disregard what Trinity has done in the past not forget what Trinity has done.
Ummm..."disregard" and "forget" are synonyms!

No week or opponent is like the previous, even from year to year(example Permian from 2006 to 2007, SGP from 2004 to 2005, and countless other examples I guess you forgot about) in the case Colleyville is our opponent this week and will provide it's own challenges.
You've never been in the military, have you? Your opponents are always out to beat you, to sniff out your weaknesses and attack them, to hurt you. Their techniques may differ, but they're always the same.

Perhaps for a band ex it may seem like Trinity has its success based on what its done before or because it has a sick team. But what you may have forgotten(if you ever knew) that success is due to a process that has to be done all over again(regardless of what you did even last week) each week focusing on the opponent not yet defeated not dwelling on outcomes that have already been determined.

In not sure what they do in discussions at band camp but if you're gonna reference the past in a football discussion it's usually a good idea to explain how it's relevant to the results on this week's scoreboard.

I'm guessing that you think that my screenname is an indicator that I have limited knowledge of the subject at hand...that being football, so I'll humor your shallow thought processes and let you keep believing that.
Perhaps I should rephrase one of the thoughts I previously tried to make..."dwelling on outcomes that have already been determined" in addition to intense focus on the next opponent--the next game--is an integral part of confidence building...and winning.

THSBandDad
10-06-2008, 11:16 PM
Ummm..."disregard" and "forget" are synonyms!


I don't think that is exactly correct. Without checking it out on dictionary.com or anything, here's my take on that:

Disregard: to know something, but give it no weight or importance.

Forget: to eliminate something from memory altogether.

TrojanBandEX
10-06-2008, 11:22 PM
I don't think that is exactly correct. Without checking it out on dictionary.com or anything, here's my take on that:

Disregard: to know something, but give it no weight or importance.

Forget: to eliminate something from memory altogether.

They are synonyms
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/disregard

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 11:29 PM
:notworthy:notworthy I wonder where some of this comes from.

Who's next? Is about moving on to a common goal.... This week CHHS...Then Keller Central, Then Grapevine, Then Justin Northwest, Then Bell an so on... It is not a supersition...It is a work ethic...simple, plan and true!!!!

I don't think that is exactly correct. Without checking it out on dictionary.com or anything, here's my take on that:

Disregard: to know something, but give it no weight or importance.

Forget: to eliminate something from memory altogether.

Bingo.
You've never been in the military, have you? Your opponents are always out to beat you, to sniff out your weaknesses and attack them, to hurt you. Their techniques may differ, but they're always the same.


Obviously you haven't been either because the technique your opponent uses to attack you definitely makes a difference lol. Yeah I'm sure soldiers don't care about the difference between a enemy carrying a rocket launcher or a pocket knife :rolleyes:.

TrojanBandEX
10-06-2008, 11:52 PM
Bingo.


Obviously you haven't been either because the technique your opponent uses to attack you definitely makes a difference lol. Yeah I'm sure soldiers don't care about the difference between a enemy carrying a rocket launcher or a pocket knife :rolleyes:.

I thought for a minute I was conversing with an adult. Guess I was mistaken.

TrojanHorse03
10-06-2008, 11:57 PM
I thought for a minute I was conversing with an adult. Guess I was mistaken.

Your condescension poorly hides or make up for your lack of football knowledge or common sense. Thanks, but no thanks for contributing that to this discussion.

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 12:01 AM
Prehaps, as adults we could get back on topic and stop making Trojan Fans look as if we have nothing better to do than argue amongst ourselves.

Just a thought!!!

da hawaiian
10-07-2008, 02:35 AM
Back to Topic now that all that is settled.

This game has allready got me nervous.

TheScout
10-07-2008, 02:55 AM
Back to Topic now that all that is settled.

This game has allready got me nervous.

And it's only Monday. We all need to remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We can look ahead, back, up, down, sideways.....it doesn't matter. We can look past opponents, and disregard others if we choose. We are not the ones playing the game, therefore we have no way of changing the outcome. But me.....it's all about CHHS

steeler 01
10-07-2008, 03:34 AM
da hawaiian


What the heck are you talking about? Concentrate BRO!
We are talking about the Trinity vs Colleyville game!
Not weather CE is a power in California! We are NOT never have been, but some day maybe! We are a new school!

Now back to what we are talking about! No wait beings you may have HDHD! I will tell you a little story and then back to Trinity vs Colleyville!



See some time back da hawaiian went threw this fazes of thinking at times it's good to feel Good & Bad at the same time! So he says Honey, my Wife, My Love Please tell me some thing that will make me feel Happy yet Sad AT THE SAME TIME?!?!?!

So wanting to please "da hawaiian" she thinks for a bit and Say's I can only tell what I know! Your Man Hood is Bigger then your Brother the ClovisKid! :notworthy
Trinity by 14+. Clovis kid. Da Hawaiian meant no disrespect. I think he asked you a serious question. Hes one of the few posters. That is very knowledgeable about other states football, and football in general. From what I have seen of his posts.

stinger
10-07-2008, 06:55 AM
OK... There...feel better? I saw no clarification in the remaining text. I was observing the mindgame you and others here play whenever an assumption is made regarding the possible outcome of a game; it's a "jinx" mentality.


Ummm..."disregard" and "forget" are synonyms!


You've never been in the military, have you? Your opponents are always out to beat you, to sniff out your weaknesses and attack them, to hurt you. Their techniques may differ, but they're always the same.



I'm guessing that you think that my screenname is an indicator that I have limited knowledge of the subject at hand...that being football, so I'll humor your shallow thought processes and let you keep believing that.
Perhaps I should rephrase one of the thoughts I previously tried to make..."dwelling on outcomes that have already been determined" in addition to intense focus on the next opponent--the next game--is an integral part of confidence building...and winning.


THis is the wrong place to play word games with fellow fans. First of all, disregard and forget are not synonyms. Disregard is as if it is happening, forget is as if it has happened already.
Why battle with somebody on the same boat? Big deal about the military, I could discuss that all day with you. I am a vet who can talk the talk too. It has nothing to do with football. This is not a killing game, it is a sport and sportsmanship should be a key.

You can call this whatever you want, and mind game might be okay. However, it all is in the field of good taste and staying away from being too personal. If this does not meet your expectations, needs, or personality, then it is not for you. Maybe another site would meet your need to battle your own team.

stinger
10-07-2008, 06:57 AM
I thought for a minute I was conversing with an adult. Guess I was mistaken.


There you go...belittling a common fan from the same camp...again!:mad:

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 06:59 AM
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trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 08:29 AM
Whoah, we're trailing badly in that one. The one over at the Startlegram is a bit closer. Maybe we have a chance on that one.

WeRunIt
10-07-2008, 10:19 AM
So can someone please tell me why the Trintiy Trojans do the Haka Dance when it is not even a tongan dance. It originated in New Zealand. Why don't they do the Kialao Dance? Just wondering!!

dragonpants
10-07-2008, 10:44 AM
So can someone please tell me why the Trintiy Trojans do the Haka Dance when it is not even a tongan dance. It originated in New Zealand. Why don't they do the Kialao Dance? Just wondering!!

They see Allen do the chicken dance in the post season every year even though you have chosen the symbol of our country and decided on something a lot more cool. :D

Who cares, it is worth the price of admission just to see it.

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 10:50 AM
So, you have to actually be from a certain country in order to do a dance from that country? I saw some people doing a waltz last night on TV and I'm pretty sure there were not from Vienna. I'm sure someone on this thread will weigh in on this although it's been discussed ad nauseam for the past three years.

T's UP 93
10-07-2008, 10:50 AM
So can someone please tell me why the Trintiy Trojans do the Haka Dance when it is not even a tongan dance. It originated in New Zealand. Why don't they do the Kialao Dance? Just wondering!!

Please look for prior post. Don't open this can of freaking worms please!!There's enough said on here that I think will give you an answer. People like to make fun of it(the haka). Thanks! HAKAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

WeRunIt
10-07-2008, 11:31 AM
I wasn't making fun of it, If I was then I would have said, Haka is Kaka!! I was asking a simple question. Didn't mean to get you all worked up.

stinger
10-07-2008, 11:55 AM
I wasn't making fun of it, If I was then I would have said, Haka is Kaka!! I was asking a simple question. Didn't mean to get you all worked up.

Just another Allen poster with an attitude. There ARE Tongans in New Zealand, Australia, Tonga, among other places. How many Tongans play on the New Zealand All Blacks? They do the Haka as part of their pre and post game celebration. (I have played against them) There is absolutely NO reason to bring up the Haka as it has been beat to death previously.
Of course we can go back and start talking about things at Allen, but that has been done and let go. It is time you did the same.
You might also want to learn a little culture regarding the Tongans and the Haka before you step out with comments. Better to be safe than sorry. You really don't want to get into a shouting match with the wrong people on here.

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 11:55 AM
(looks around) No one's worked up here. It's just old, old news.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-07-2008, 12:33 PM
This will explain the Haka:
http://www.trinitytrojanfootball.com/SB116364486631624627.html

TheScout
10-07-2008, 12:47 PM
One excerpt from the article sums up why the HAKA is performed:

"Ilaiasi Ofa, executive director of the Voice of Tonga, the organization that serves as a local advocate for Tongan immigrants, said the haka has become a source of pride for a community that hasn't always been sure of its place in Texas. Shortly after the team first began performing it, Mr. Ofa showed a videotape of it to a group of older Tongan residents. Their attention immediately gravitated to the white players standing in the front row, performing the war dance alongside their Tongan teammates.
"I had two older men with tears in their eyes tell me afterward, 'After seeing that, we know that our future generations will be accepted here,' " Mr. Ofa said."

WeRunIt
10-07-2008, 12:59 PM
You might also want to learn a little culture regarding the Tongans and the Haka before you step out with comments. Better to be safe than sorry. You really don't want to get into a shouting match with the wrong people on here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW9nLK5PHqg

We can talk culture... and who is wrong.... and im not shouting.... YET! I'LL SAVE THAT FOR FRIDAY NIGHT.... enjoy the video!:D

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 01:01 PM
You are the 2,467 person to post that video on this site. Got anything else original?

T's UP 93
10-07-2008, 01:26 PM
I wasn't making fun of it, If I was then I would have said, Haka is Kaka!! I was asking a simple question. Didn't mean to get you all worked up.

Are you an out of work comedian or something???

WeRunIt
10-07-2008, 01:30 PM
You are the 2,467 person to post that video on this site. Got anything else original?

Whatever... I’m not getting in a pissing match with you. I just asked a question, and it could of answered it nicely, but it wasn't.

So, Go Panthers!

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 01:36 PM
The views of "werunit" are not endorsed by any accredited agency, nor are representative of the views of panthernation.

All due respect, where respect is due. :)

Fleeman93
10-07-2008, 01:41 PM
Colleyville will win because they have great fans.

Signed,
Cy Falls Mom

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 01:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW9nLK5PHqg

We can talk culture... and who is wrong.... and im not shouting.... YET! I'LL SAVE THAT FOR FRIDAY NIGHT.... enjoy the video!:D

We are in trouble now... youtube is teaching culture.....

HAKA is a TROJAN thing... the others just don't get it and most likely never will!!!

YOU KNOW WHAT???

The boys don't care if you get it!!!!!

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 01:46 PM
Actually, it was answered above. It's just that it is very old news that has been rehashed over and over...here and other sites. We're more interested in discussing the CHHS vs. Trinity game than an old topic that has been covered several times before. The thread is called "Trinity vs. Colleyville".

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 01:47 PM
Colleyville will win because they have great fans.

Signed,
Cy Falls Mom

We are in for an excellant game on friday night!!! Our communities our looking forward to the match up.

The teams will play hard.... The Team with the FEWEST mistakes wins....

No way to predict mistakes so I guess we will all find out on Friday!!!

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 01:50 PM
Actually, it was answered above. It's just that it is very old news that has been rehashed over and over...here and other sites. We're more interested in discussing the CHHS vs. Trinity game than an old topic that has been covered several times before. The thread is called "Trinity vs. Colleyville".

that would be nice if the two band exes could follow the rules:rolleyes:

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 01:54 PM
ever heard of the statement, "you don't know what you don't know?"

Well, while it may be old news to you. It might be new news to others. Where is your patience and understanding?

I was reading along and decided to find translations into english, may i share?


Ka mate, ka mate
The words of Te Rauparaha's haka (1810):


Ka mate, ka mate
Ka ora, ka ora
Tenei te tangata puhuruhuru
Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
Upane, upane
Upane kaupane
Whiti te ra.


These words are translated as:

It is death, it is death
It is life, it is life
This is the hairy man
Who caused the sun to shine again for me
Up the ladder, up the ladder
Up to the top
The sun shines.


----------------------------------------

For those of us that didn't know, now we do. Thanks for your patience. :)

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 01:59 PM
ever heard of the statement, "you don't know what you don't know?"

Well, while it may be old news to you. It might be new news to others. Where is your patience and understanding?

I was reading along and decided to find translations into english, may i share?


Ka mate, ka mate
The words of Te Rauparaha's haka (1810):


Ka mate, ka mate
Ka ora, ka ora
Tenei te tangata puhuruhuru
Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
Upane, upane
Upane kaupane
Whiti te ra.


These words are translated as:

It is death, it is death
It is life, it is life
This is the hairy man
Who caused the sun to shine again for me
Up the ladder, up the ladder
Up to the top
The sun shines.


----------------------------------------

For those of us that didn't know, now we do. Thanks for your patience. :)


:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Very well said! chhspantherfan

dragonpants
10-07-2008, 02:02 PM
ever heard of the statement, "you don't know what you don't know?"

Well, while it may be old news to you. It might be new news to others. Where is your patience and understanding?

I was reading along and decided to find translations into english, may i share?


Ka mate, ka mate
The words of Te Rauparaha's haka (1810):


Ka mate, ka mate
Ka ora, ka ora
Tenei te tangata puhuruhuru
Nana i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
Upane, upane
Upane kaupane
Whiti te ra.


These words are translated as:

It is death, it is death
It is life, it is life
This is the hairy man
Who caused the sun to shine again for me
Up the ladder, up the ladder
Up to the top
The sun shines.


----------------------------------------

For those of us that didn't know, now we do. Thanks for your patience. :)

Forget it I am speechless, Panther did it.

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 02:31 PM
Once again, with feeling.

stinger
10-07-2008, 02:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW9nLK5PHqg

We can talk culture... and who is wrong.... and im not shouting.... YET! I'LL SAVE THAT FOR FRIDAY NIGHT.... enjoy the video!:D


Put it on the line. What do you know about the Haka, Tongan culture, the New Zealand All Blacks, Maori tribes?:D

slcdragonfan
10-07-2008, 02:54 PM
Put it on the line. What do you know about the Haka, Tongan culture, the New Zealand All Blacks, Maori tribes?

a. it's a fun "dance" to watch;:)

b. overwhelms the discussion of a great Trinity team and program to the point of beyond annoyance;:mad:

c. Every time I hear it the word 'Haka' now, I think of "Do the Haka..." to the tune of "Do the Hustle...":D

d. Is treated by some as an almost mystical, sacred religious ceremony requiring special deference;:confused:

e. Is treated by others as a chance to act in an ill-mannered, boorish way, reflecting poorly on themselves and their community;:Censor:

Now don't come beating down my virtual door about this, please? IS CHHS for real this year? As I read about them, I am beginning to think they are the team that is really 'under the radar'.

stinger
10-07-2008, 02:55 PM
You are the 2,467 person to post that video on this site. Got anything else original?

If she would only get it the first time ,or second, or third that she has posted OLD news and needs to move on. Hello...anybody home???

stinger
10-07-2008, 02:56 PM
Whatever... I’m not getting in a pissing match with you. I just asked a question, and it could of answered it nicely, but it wasn't.

So, Go Panthers!


WOW!!! I think she is trying to put the fear into Trinity>>>>I think I'll try it too...GO TROJANS!!!! Now we're even...so there....You're mother is calling,,,time for bed.

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 03:04 PM
Now don't come beating down my virtual door about this, please? IS CHHS for real this year? As I read about them, I am beginning to think they are the team that is really 'under the radar'.

Finally, we are back to the topic at hand!

I know that Trinity isn't going to let them continue to fly under the radar.

If there is something to be concerned about, our boys will get the chance to see it. I fall goes well they will be able to answer it with a WIN!

I still believe it goes to the team who makes the fewest mistakes!

I am sure it is the start of what will be many difficult games on the road to State.

slcdragonfan
10-07-2008, 03:09 PM
Finally, we are back to the topic at hand!

I know that Trinity isn't going to let them continue to fly under the radar.

If there is something to be concerned about, our boys will get the chance to see it. I fall goes well they will be able to answer it with a WIN!

I still believe it goes to the team who makes the fewest mistakes!

I am sure it is the start of what will be many difficult games on the road to State.

If they get swatted bad, then that will mean that they are the same CHHS they have been in the past; a good team, but not championship. i don't say that in a mean way for you CHHS fans. If they play close, to me it means they are finally becoming a real threat and will be a fun team to watch the rest of the way. If they win, then they are going to have a huge radar signature, everybody will know their name. I would like to see this game bigtime, but Coppell calls.

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 03:15 PM
If they get swatted bad, then that will mean that they are the same CHHS they have been in the past; a good team, but not championship. i don't say that in a mean way for you CHHS fans. If they play close, to me it means they are finally becoming a real threat and will be a fun team to watch the rest of the way. If they win, then they are going to have a huge radar signature, everybody will know their name. I would like to see this game bigtime, but Coppell calls.

I agree fully...

That Carroll/ Coppell Game has some history! Amazing how both teams have come from old country schools to big 5A Football!

May both teams play well and stay healthy!:)

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 03:18 PM
If they get swatted bad, then that will mean that they are the same CHHS they have been in the past; a good team, but not championship. i don't say that in a mean way for you CHHS fans. If they play close, to me it means they are finally becoming a real threat and will be a fun team to watch the rest of the way. If they win, then they are going to have a huge radar signature, everybody will know their name. I would like to see this game bigtime, but Coppell calls.

no offense taken......now, SSSShhhhhhh.......;)

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 03:43 PM
CHHS is no longer under the radar. AP has them ranked #1 as part of a swap out with Trinity. Well deserved.

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 03:45 PM
No, No, No........Stop this right now, Trojanbacker. You know as well as I that Trinity leads the series 2-0, they are the favorite and deservedly so. thanks for allowing us to be your Homeconing opponent:)

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 04:04 PM
No, No, No........Stop this right now, Trojanbacker. You know as well as I that Trinity leads the series 2-0, they are the favorite and deservedly so. thanks for allowing us to be your Homeconing opponent:)

I know the formalities of Homecoming is a distraction we wish were not apart of this week.

chhspantherfan
10-07-2008, 04:06 PM
Gives us more halftime to rest:cool:

WeRunIt
10-07-2008, 04:16 PM
Thank you Trojan Mom for your email of explaining!! That is all I wanted and was asking for.
I see that Trinity has some big DB's!!!

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 04:18 PM
Gives us more halftime to rest:cool:

very funny but true never the less!!

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 04:19 PM
Thank you Trojan Mom for your email of explaining!! That is all I wanted and was asking for.
I see that Trinity has some big DB's!!!




No prob...Trinty is big all over! Didn't you get the memo?:)

trojanbacker
10-07-2008, 04:26 PM
With the parade, fireworks, crowning of respective kings/queens, bands, dancing girls, flyover by the F-15s, Fall festival celebration, choirs and political speeches, the halftime should be over in no more than two hours. I'm heading across the street to Duke's for a frosty adult beverage or six......

TrojanMom88
10-07-2008, 04:31 PM
With the parade, fireworks, crowning of respective kings/queens, bands, dancing girls, flyover by the F-15s, Fall festival celebration, choirs and political speeches, the halftime should be over in no more than two hours. I'm heading across the street to Duke's for a frosty adult beverage or six......

Oh now don't forget about the Dancing Dads....

Colleyville will have no excuses about not being able to keep up! I just hope we can run on the excitement of it all...maybe the boys should do the HAKA in the locker room during half time to stay pumped up!!

I'm sorry...I had to bring it back up!! PLEAZE don't start arguing about it!!!:D

da hawaiian
10-07-2008, 04:48 PM
I'll be back when the discussion is back to football :)

Here's a start

How about a personell breakdown by Pantherfan of CHHS Offensive line.
One only has to look at past stats to know who the skill guys are, but what about the Panther Engine room.

I'm watching them on DVD as we speak but what's your detailed opinion of them? I think they're VERY GOOD.

da hawaiian
10-08-2008, 12:03 AM
Where'd everybody go?

TheScout
10-08-2008, 12:42 AM
Where'd everybody go?

I guess they all went to bed, I can't sleep, still thinking of this Friday.

AllenTAMU
10-08-2008, 02:15 AM
I just got up a new video of Bryan Head, Colleyville's RB. It's a pretty short clip that was thrown together but it's from games this season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A_FZo6OTQ&fmt=18

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 07:06 AM
I'll be back when the discussion is back to football :)

Here's a start

How about a personell breakdown by Pantherfan of CHHS Offensive line.
One only has to look at past stats to know who the skill guys are, but what about the Panther Engine room.

I'm watching them on DVD as we speak but what's your detailed opinion of them? I think they're VERY GOOD.

slow, small, unathletic, disinterested.......you know the drill;)

stinger
10-08-2008, 07:28 AM
slow, small, unathletic, disinterested.......you know the drill;)


From what I hear from tghe inside....SKEERED>>>>and I don't live in Colleyville.

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 07:41 AM
One thing that we will never be, is scared. Don't know you and you don't know me, but I can assure you that you are very far from the truth.

And by the way, there is a huge % of the students at Heritage that do not live in Colleyville, either. There is a large area of Euless and Grapevine in the attendance zone.

trojanbacker
10-08-2008, 07:50 AM
That's just Stinger. He likes to say things like that.

stinger
10-08-2008, 08:08 AM
That's just Stinger. He likes to say things like that.


SSSHHH, Darn, it's out of the bag.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-08-2008, 07:10 PM
FWST's article on the game:
http://www.star-telegram.com/358/story/958741.html

Check out the TALE OF THE TAPE - either click on TALE OF THE TAPE or scroll to the bottom of the page.

TheScout
10-08-2008, 09:00 PM
I'm thinking of an actual Tailgate grilling in the VIP parking area this friday for all of those not going to North main. But still not sure. Anybody? Heritage fans welcome too.

Trojanman96
10-08-2008, 09:06 PM
Sweet, I am already hungry.

TheScout
10-08-2008, 09:21 PM
Sweet, I am already hungry.

beef, brats, and beer....uh "root" that is.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-08-2008, 09:47 PM
North Main BBQ will be there in the parking lot to serve up chopped beef sandwiches. Mr. Green with North Main BBQ has OK'ed it but is still in need of some details. If all goes well, they'll start serving at 6:00 PM in the VIP parking lot.

All Trinity and Colleyville Heritage fans WELCOME!!!

TheScout
10-08-2008, 09:51 PM
North Main BBQ will be there in the parking lot to serve up chopped beef sandwiches. Mr. Green with North Main BBQ has OK'ed it but is still in need of some details. If all goes well, they'll start serving at 6:00 PM in the VIP parking lot.

All Trinity and Colleyville Heritage fans WELCOME!!!


:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Even better. but BYORB

powerofthehaka
10-08-2008, 10:13 PM
North Main BBQ will be there in the parking lot to serve up chopped beef sandwiches. Mr. Green with North Main BBQ has OK'ed it but is still in need of some details. If all goes well, they'll start serving at 6:00 PM in the VIP parking lot.

All Trinity and Colleyville Heritage fans WELCOME!!!

It's a homecoming BBQ. Same as last year, he can't sell but donations are accepted.:notworthy

AllenTAMU
10-08-2008, 10:37 PM
Lets get some score predictions started.

ONLY ACTUAL COLLEYVILLE AND TRINITY FANS PLEASE or those who are actually familiar with both programs this year

powerofthehaka
10-08-2008, 10:49 PM
Lets get some score predictions started.

ONLY ACTUAL COLLEYVILLE AND TRINITY FANS PLEASE or those who are actually familiar with both programs this year

CH 42
ET 10

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 10:51 PM
CH 42
ET 10

nice try, but if I am ineligble for sarcasm so are you!:D

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 10:53 PM
North Main BBQ will be there in the parking lot to serve up chopped beef sandwiches. Mr. Green with North Main BBQ has OK'ed it but is still in need of some details. If all goes well, they'll start serving at 6:00 PM in the VIP parking lot.

All Trinity and Colleyville Heritage fans WELCOME!!!

where is the VIP parking lot and what time do the parking lot gates open?

AllenTAMU
10-08-2008, 11:03 PM
CH 42
ET 10

sounds good to me but i predict the score to at least be within 10 points

powerofthehaka
10-08-2008, 11:03 PM
where is the VIP parking lot and what time do the parking lot gates open?

West end. Parking lots are always open. And free!:D

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-08-2008, 11:04 PM
where is the VIP parking lot and what time do the parking lot gates open?
The VIP parking lot is the northwest lot directly to the right of the stadium looking straight at the stadium front. You have to have a parking permit to park your car there but anyone can walk over from the free parking lots.
Just look for all the BBQ smoke and follow your nose.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-08-2008, 11:06 PM
West end. Parking lots are always open. And free!:D
The VIP parking lot requires a permit unless you sneak in before they start monitoring the entrances.

TrojanHorse03
10-08-2008, 11:06 PM
Lets get some score predictions started.

ONLY ACTUAL COLLEYVILLE AND TRINITY FANS PLEASE or those who are actually familiar with both programs this year

Colleyville Heritage 56
Trinity 0

TrojanMom88
10-08-2008, 11:09 PM
where is the VIP parking lot and what time do the parking lot gates open?

VIP parking is the parking lot at the far end of the home side. Parking lot is always open.

AllenTAMU
10-08-2008, 11:11 PM
Colleyville Heritage 56
Trinity 0

alright guys cmon lets get realistic i think trinity -7

TrojanHorse03
10-08-2008, 11:16 PM
Lets get some score predictions started.

ONLY ACTUAL COLLEYVILLE AND TRINITY FANS PLEASE or those who are actually familiar with both programs this year

For the most part that's not are style, we'd prefer to let the boys do the talking on the field and sit back and enjoy the ride. You could say we trust the boys.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
10-08-2008, 11:18 PM
For the most part that's not are style, we'd prefer to let the boys do the talking on the field and sit back and enjoy the ride. You could say we trust the boys.
So true!

I don't make predictions on Trinity games.

TrojanMom88
10-08-2008, 11:23 PM
Our boys know what they have to do... We as fans believe this.

Our boys have been taught HUMBLE is the best policy... To do their talking on the field and they do.

What else is there to talk about????

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 11:26 PM
West end. Parking lots are always open. And free!:D




The VIP parking lot is the northwest lot directly to the right of the stadium looking straight at the stadium front. You have to have a parking permit to park your car there but anyone can walk over from the free parking lots.
Just look for all the BBQ smoke and follow your nose.

I will be bringing large portions of meat, who's grill do i go to?

http://nochildleft.com/Images/butcher.jpg

AllenTAMU
10-08-2008, 11:36 PM
Yall Trinity fans are too nice! I'm glad to have yall in our district now even if you are the main competition. How about predictions with this as the basis instead of both teams fighting tooth and nail (these arent predictions just hypotheticals so feel free to join in):

Trinity hits on all cylinders - Colleyville falters

Both teams play flat

Colleyville hits on all cylinders - Trinity falters

TrojanHorse03
10-08-2008, 11:39 PM
Yall Trinity fans are too nice! I'm glad to have yall in our district now even if you are the main competition. How about predictions with this as the basis instead of both teams fighting tooth and nail (these arent predictions just hypotheticals so feel free to join in):

Trinity hits on all cylinders - Colleyville falters

Both teams play flat

Colleyville hits on all cylinders - Trinity falters

Hmmm...how about we trust our boys and may both teams come out healthy :D!

TrojanMom88
10-08-2008, 11:41 PM
Hmmm...how about we trust our boys and may both teams come out healthy :D!

+1 I don't think you will find any takers!!!!

Winner of Friday's game will be the team with the fewest mistakes or who will capitalize on the others mistakes!!!

THSBandDad
10-08-2008, 11:43 PM
Yall Trinity fans are too nice! I'm glad to have yall in our district now even if you are the main competition. How about predictions with this as the basis instead of both teams fighting tooth and nail (these arent predictions just hypotheticals so feel free to join in):

Trinity hits on all cylinders - Colleyville falters

Both teams play flat

Colleyville hits on all cylinders - Trinity falters

35-6, THS
14-10, THS
28-7, CHS
plus, don't see any way that BOTH teams can hit on all cylinders since CHS O playing well won't happen if THS D playing well.

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 11:46 PM
back to the subject....


recognize this guy?



http://www.northmainbbq.com/images/Img21.jpg

TrojanMom88
10-08-2008, 11:49 PM
Being cooked or doing the cooking?:eek:

chhspantherfan
10-08-2008, 11:58 PM
thought he was donating the BBQ..........I will donate!!!!!!



See you there!!!!!!

TheScout
10-09-2008, 12:03 AM
The VIP parking lot requires a permit unless you sneak in before they start monitoring the entrances.

Just tell Roy(the guy who monitors the north side of the VIP) that Zane sent ya. It's cool.:D