Permian vs Lee

[fballgirl22]

Thoughts?

[AE 8008]

not much to think about. mojo wins big

[PermianFan4Life]

not much to think about. mojo wins big

Permian by 35

[mojoguy]

Although I feel like we will be the much better team, this game could be a massive trap. Our two big rivalries lined up right next to each other seems a little dangerous. I still think we will win.

[TheVoice]

I think Permain answered a lot of questions tonight, at least until the second season starts. :notworthy

[AHSeagles]

Lee just isn't the program they used to be right now. Permian wins big. I predict all of the former LSWC making the playoffs this year with all four 2-5A spots going to the Midland's and Odessa's, Abilene in 3-5A, and Cooper in their 4A district. I also predict Cooper to make a deep playoff run, and depending on whether Abilene goes D1 or D2, that Permian and Abilene to make deep runs. If Abilene were to go D1, they'd play each other in the second round I believe.

[302w]

Lee just isn't the program they used to be right now. Permian wins big. I predict all of the former LSWC making the playoffs this year with all four 2-5A spots going to the Midland's and Odessa's, Abilene in 3-5A, and Cooper in their 4A district. I also predict Cooper to make a deep playoff run, and depending on whether Abilene goes D1 or D2, that Permian and Abilene to make deep runs. If Abilene were to go D1, they'd play each other in the second round I believe.


I would drive all the way up to Abilene/Odessa to see that game. :notworthy

[AE 8008]

I would drive all the way up to Abilene/Odessa to see that game. :notworthy

it would be one for the ages

[a-hi eagle2309]

Lee just isn't the program they used to be right now. Permian wins big. I predict all of the former LSWC making the playoffs this year with all four 2-5A spots going to the Midland's and Odessa's, Abilene in 3-5A, and Cooper in their 4A district. I also predict Cooper to make a deep playoff run, and depending on whether Abilene goes D1 or D2, that Permian and Abilene to make deep runs. If Abilene were to go D1, they'd play each other in the second round I believe.

Very good chance this might happen:cool:

[The Wiz]

Lee has the district's top defense statistically. Last year's game was 31-7 which was closer than expected.

I see this one a little tighter than MOJO fans are thinking after this week's rout. Lee's running game looks formidable, but I think Permian's defense can gear up to stop any one-dimensional team.

My pick: MOJO 39, LEE 10

[Empire strikes back]

I do wish Permian and Abilene High would meet up again. But as of MOJO vs Lee, Permian rolls in this one. Permian 47 poor webles 20.


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[KattTx]

I'm not sure I could survive another Permian/ Abilene game. But it sure would be FUN trying!! :D

As for Lee/ Permian... Permian has to avoid any after effects from this week and continue to improve. They should win - but beating Lee (in any shape) is never a foregone conclusion.

[da wiz]

i see permian going 10-0, but that schedule makes me a little nervous for
them come playoff time. i wish their schedule was a little stronger....

[tmcran]

i see permian going 10-0, but that schedule makes me a little nervous for
them come playoff time. i wish their schedule was a little stronger....

If you think OP's schedule is weak--- look at Abilene high. :D

[mojoguy]

Unless Permian or Abilene stumble during district, I think they would play in the Quarterfinals wouldn't they?

[da wiz]

If you think OP's schedule is weak--- look at Abilene high. :D they both are, but its not their fault,,
not many coaches want to travel 2 or 3 hundred miles for a non-district
game, thats unfortunate for both teams, permian and abilene. thats what i was l referring too, both teams are very good but they wont get any real test till the playoffs..............

[mojoguy]

That has also worried me a lot. I was glad that at least last night was a big-game playoff type atmosphere. Last season we had two really big games to hang our hats on as big-time wins going into the playoffs. This year, I worry that our guys might not be quite as accustomed to the hype once December rolls around.

[Cloviskid]

they both are, but its not their fault,,
not many coaches want to travel 2 or 3 hundred miles for a non-district
game, thats unfortunate for both teams, permian and abilene. thats what i was l referring too, both teams are very good but they wont get any real test till the playoffs..............


SEND CASH! WILL COME!

What's Lee's recored and who have they played?

[odessapermian.com]

SEND CASH! WILL COME!

What's Lee's recored and who have they played?

Lee is 3-1 in district (3-2 overall). They have losses to Rockwall and Midland High, wins over Lubbock Coronado, Lubbock High, and Amarillo Tascosa.

[SanAngeloBobcat]

Permian will roll

[da wiz]

Permian will roll

you speak the truth, tonto.....

[odessapermian.com]

IMHO for Lee to win this game they need to slow it down, grind it out on offense. Play impeccable defense, and make Permian have to grind it out when we have the ball. Problem is, so far Permian is showing they are capable of grinding it out if necessary. I expect a game similar to last year's game.

[PermianFan]

Unless Permian or Abilene stumble during district, I think they would play in the Quarterfinals wouldn't they?

We would meet in the quarterfinals if they got past OHS :) in the second round and Euless Trinity in the third and we got past Plano/Allen in the third.

However, the odds are against them being in Division1. Not impossible, but unlikely.

[MoJoHitMan]

Permian 42
Midland Lee 14

Coach Allman will take his foot of the gas and let the 2nd and 3rd stringers play the 4th quarter. Allman is a class act and wont run up the score like he could have done many times...including last night! :)

[MOJO94]

MOJO 49
LEE 17
This could be a trap game, but I think we will find out alot about this years team.

[Weber]

Midland Lee has nothing on this Permian Team
56-0 butt whoopin comin for lee

[Redhoss]

The rebs will need their crying towels bigtime. Back 2 the drawing boards.

Mojo cruises through district. This could be the year.

[eaglefan87]

Lee just isn't the program they used to be right now. Permian wins big. I predict all of the former LSWC making the playoffs this year with all four 2-5A spots going to the Midland's and Odessa's, Abilene in 3-5A, and Cooper in their 4A district. I also predict Cooper to make a deep playoff run, and depending on whether Abilene goes D1 or D2, that Permian and Abilene to make deep runs. If Abilene were to go D1, they'd play each other in the second round I believe.

AHS will more than likely go D2....i beleive they r mid pack as far as enrollment

[eaglefan87]

That has also worried me a lot. I was glad that at least last night was a big-game playoff type atmosphere. Last season we had two really big games to hang our hats on as big-time wins going into the playoffs. This year, I worry that our guys might not be quite as accustomed to the hype once December rolls around.

at least u guys r still playing teams that were in our old district, Monty has a strong tradition our district is pathetic as far as fball goes....

[eaglefan87]

they both are, but its not their fault,,
not many coaches want to travel 2 or 3 hundred miles for a non-district
game, thats unfortunate for both teams, permian and abilene. thats what i was l referring too, both teams are very good but they wont get any real test till the playoffs..............

at least u only had to schedule one non district game:confused::D

[mojo61]

Lee will try extra hard against Per., but Mojo by alot.

[MOJO94]

Where are all the Lee fans?

[MOJO94]

I hear they don't have many fans at the game this year. If this is the case, I bet the stands will be real empty this week.

[mojo61]

Ordinarily, this game would draw a big crowd since Mid. & Od. are only 20 mi. apart, but I think this time there won't be many Lee fans, esp. since Per.'s going to beat the stuffings out of Lee in the 1st half. If the Lee def. wants to make Per. grind it out, the Per. off. is very capable of playing grind-it-out fb (Per. can also pass pretty well, too). Plus, the towns of Mid. & Od. pretty much hate ea. other anyway. That'll be motivation enough for Per. even though these 2 teams are completely unmatched: Per. has pretty much everything & Mid. Lee doesn't have much. It'll be pretty boring in the 2nd half.

[MOJO94]

Any Lee fans on today?

[toonman]

I would drive all the way up to Abilene/Odessa to see that game. :notworthy

I agree and the way District 3 is shaping up Abilene could very well go D1.

[AHSeagles]

Any Lee fans on today?

The only person on this site that I even think is a Lee fan is WESTEXREBEL that always posts his own top 10 every week. But, I don't actually know if thats true.

[mojoman21]

remember when these two teams play you can throw out the records.

[mojoguy]

remember when these two teams play you can throw out the records.

Exactly. Even though this year's game shouldn't be close, it might be. This game is still one of the biggest rivalries at this level of football. The Lee crowd will be the biggest visiting crowd at Ratliff all year except for our own crowd at the OHS game. Make no mistake, the Rebels will give it a shot. I just don't anticipate that their shot is better than OHS's was. The key for this week is to continue to improve, and we'll be fine.

[biggolfdad]

Mojo rolls..

;)

[Mojo89]

Mojo...0ne fiddy

Lee...negative tree

[The Wiz]

Exactly. Even though this year's game shouldn't be close, it might be. This game is still one of the biggest rivalries at this level of football. The Lee crowd will be the biggest visiting crowd at Ratliff all year except for our own crowd at the OHS game. Make no mistake, the Rebels will give it a shot. I just don't anticipate that their shot is better than OHS's was. The key for this week is to continue to improve, and we'll be fine.

The reason Lee has a better shot than OHS did is simple: Lee has a defense. The Bronchos on the other hand...

[MOJO94]

The reason Lee has a better shot than OHS did is simple: Lee has a defense. The Bronchos on the other hand...We will find out how good they are in just a few hours. They also have a great running game.

[mojoguy]

Good game Rebels. Yall fought hard and out-executed us the entire first half. Good luck from here on out, and our thoughts are with the young man that was injured in the third quarter.

[PermianFan4Life]

Well our D fell flat in the first half and our O couldn't get rolling either, Now Lee did play very well on both sides of the ball but the game looked like zero week against Dville. We will not go past the second round if we can't get some consistancy on both sides of the ball as well as stepping up our pass coverage and closing the gaps.

[MOJO94]

Well our D fell flat in the first half and our O couldn't get rolling either, Now Lee did play very well on both sides of the ball but the game looked like zero week against Dville. We will not go past the second round if we can't get some consistancy on both sides of the ball as well as stepping up our pass coverage and closing the gaps.Dont take any thing away from that lee team. They are a good team and they showed that tonight. You are right about stepping up the pass coverage, I said this would be the weak part of this years team. Not that they are bad, they just have not got to where they need to be to win state.

[PermianFan4Life]

Dont take any thing away from that lee team. They are a good team and they showed that tonight. You are right about stepping up the pass coverage, I said this would be the weak part of this years team. Not that they are bad, they just have not got to where they need to be to win state.

I do agree that Lee has a good team this year, I think they are the 2nd place team in our district.

I just wish for once we could play equally as well both directions, I agree that state is out of the question with the current state of our D.

[mojoguy]

Well our D fell flat in the first half and our O couldn't get rolling either, Now Lee did play very well on both sides of the ball but the game looked like zero week against Dville. We will not go past the second round if we can't get some consistancy on both sides of the ball as well as stepping up our pass coverage and closing the gaps.

I think our problems defensively tonight start and end with our ability to stop the run without having to blitz every play. Really, our pass defense this season has not been too bad. Some games we do seem to get into a relaxed zone coverage that is easy to exploit though. I don't think anyone has connected on a deep ball against us yet this year.

[MOJO94]

I do agree that Lee has a good team this year, I think they are the 2nd place team in our district.

I just wish for once we could play equally as well both directions, I agree that state is out of the question with the current state of our D.They will get better. This game is hard to base anything on b/c we had ohs last week. I think the boys might have still been drained from that game.

[mojoguy]

They will get better. This game is hard to base anything on b/c we had ohs last week. I think the boys might have still been drained from that game.

Good point. Someone scheduled our two big rivals in back to back weeks. This was definitely a trap game. Look at how we played once we settled down in the second half. There was obvious improvement.

[MOJO94]

I think our problems defensively tonight start and end with our ability to stop the run without having to blitz every play. Really, our pass defense this season has not been too bad. Some games we do seem to get into a relaxed zone coverage that is easy to exploit though. I don't think anyone has connected on a deep ball against us yet this year.Lee could have had a couple of deep balls tonight, but the QB was a little long. The MOJO DB was way behind, and on one the safety bailed him out.

[MOJO94]

Good point. Someone scheduled our two big rivals in back to back weeks. This was definitely a trap game. Look at how we played once we settled down in the second half. There was obvious improvement.Very true, plus Quis made a couple of tweaks to his team this week. Any clue why Roberson did not play for lee toight?

[mojoguy]

Yeah I saw one on the Lee sideline like that, but like I said, it didn't connect for one reason or another. I felt like the pass rush was better tonight than it has been most of this season.

[mojoguy]

Very true, plus Quis made a couple of tweaks to his team this week. Any clue why Roberson did not play for lee toight?

No clue. All I know is that they ran more Wing-T looks and 18-pitch/39 pitch than I have seen in a long long time. They executed it really well too. Contain was usually there, but they would turn back into the rest of our defense which was getting chopped to the ground. I was impressed.

[MOJO94]

Yeah I saw one on the Lee sideline like that, but like I said, it didn't connect for one reason or another. I felt like the pass rush was better tonight than it has been most of this season.It was and if lee would have spread it out the panthers would of had some big sacks.

[MOJO94]

No clue. All I know is that they ran more Wing-T looks and 18-pitch/39 pitch than I have seen in a long long time. They executed it really well too. Contain was usually there, but they would turn back into the rest of our defense which was getting chopped to the ground. I was impressed.My son is at Abell and they started that wing-t again this year in 8th grade.

[odessapermian.com]

Stats and stuff- http://www.hometeamsonline.com/teams/default.asp?u=ODESSAPERMIAN&t=c&s=football&p=custom&pagename=MOJO%20Football

[fballgirl22]

My son is at Abell and they started that wing-t again this year in 8th grade.

At times ran the double wing-t as well(Lee). Have they been running it all year? I guess they took a page out of Clovis East's playbook from 2005. Either way it was pretty effective for a while.

[mojoguy]

I'm glad someone is willing to run the Wing-T still. If executed properly, it's impossible to stop. The ol' 18 pitch was our bread and butter for a long, long, long time. Seeing it again last night warmed my heart. lol

[mojoguy]

I would also like to point out that our coaching staff did a bang up job of making adjustments at halftime again. These things are encouraging.

[PermianFan4Life]

I would also like to point out that our coaching staff did a bang up job of making adjustments at halftime again. These things are encouraging.

I agree, We came out and did a much better job in the 3rd qtr. What I am worried about is playing this flat against people like Plano or ET, You dont get second chances against certain opponents.

[odessapermian.com]

I would also like to point out that our coaching staff did a bang up job of making adjustments at halftime again. These things are encouraging.

Yep. A lot of fans freak out when the opponent scores on their opening drive. Remember all the hue and cry when we "allowed" SA Central to score? :rolleyes:

A well coached team, which IMO Lee is, will come out on offense and do something they haven't shown much of on film. A good coaching staff, which IMO we have, also makes adjustments to those new wrinkles. So far, our staff has made adjustments well.

[odessapermian.com]

MOJO 35 Lee 17 VIDEO. Be sure to select "watch in high quality"- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj56J9NSgRw

[mojoguy]

I tell ya what, Rumbaugh has turned into a very legit deep threat. I never would have thought that after last season, but he totally evolved his game this season. Those throws were right on the money as well.

[jdlewallen]

Yep. A lot of fans freak out when the opponent scores on their opening drive. Remember all the hue and cry when we "allowed" SA Central to score? :rolleyes:

A well coached team, which IMO Lee is, will come out on offense and do something they haven't shown much of on film. A good coaching staff, which IMO we have, also makes adjustments to those new wrinkles. So far, our staff has made adjustments well.

I NEVER like going up against a team coached by Quis...he seems to know too much about Mojo football and always comes ready to play....This Lee team has some legitimate talent and could easily be a playoff team...

[mojotrain]

Lee was tough as they usually are. This was by far the hardest hitting game I've seen this year. Ouiz was running what Perrmian ran for 40 years. He played in it and now has coached it. It just had our lads confused for a while. I think Lee will win out and finish second in this district.

This crowd was sparse compared to the 20,000 plus last week. Lee may have had 3-4000 there but it's hard to say. A lot of Permian fans who don't have season tickets sit over there. 4000 Lee fans are = to anyone elses 6000 so I didn't notice a lack of support at all. They are a loud bunch.