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maverick#23
11-14-2005, 12:31 AM
The winner of the expected Smithson Valley vs. San Antonio Madison D2 region 4 final will beat Katy and advance to face the Dragons in the State Final. If Smithson Valley represents the 265 they will use their size and athleticism to control the clock with smashmouth football. If Madison represents their smaller faster defensive front and speedy secondary will neutralize the Carroll passing attack and the blazing speed of their skills players will permeate the Carroll defense and coverage teams. Look for the 265 to be the victor in a competitve state final. Hunger will be the ultimate difference and after years of swallowing state titles the Southlake Carroll Dragons have full stomachs.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 03:26 AM
The winner of the expected Smithson Valley vs. San Antonio Madison D2 region 4 final will beat Katy and advance to face the Dragons in the State Final. If Smithson Valley represents the 265 they will use their size and athleticism to control the clock with smashmouth football. If Madison represents their smaller faster defensive front and speedy secondary will neutralize the Carroll passing attack and the blazing speed of their skills players will permeate the Carroll defense and coverage teams. Look for the 265 to be the victor in a competitve state final. Hunger will be the ultimate difference and after years of swallowing state titles the Southlake Carroll Dragons have full stomachs.
Why don't you have hope that you guys can beat SLC? I want you guys to bring it on home. 26-5A needs to take 2 titles this year.

RATTLERS316
11-14-2005, 04:03 AM
The winner of the expected Smithson Valley vs. San Antonio Madison D2 region 4 final will beat Katy and advance to face the Dragons in the State Final. If Smithson Valley represents the 265 they will use their size and athleticism to control the clock with smashmouth football. If Madison represents their smaller faster defensive front and speedy secondary will neutralize the Carroll passing attack and the blazing speed of their skills players will permeate the Carroll defense and coverage teams. Look for the 265 to be the victor in a competitve state final. Hunger will be the ultimate difference and after years of swallowing state titles the Southlake Carroll Dragons have full stomachs.
there is absolutely no way that Madison will ever beat SLC.....Smithson Valley would have a better chance to win because of there familiarity of SLC's offense and schemes...SLC would pick Madison apart....

GoRangers
11-14-2005, 04:59 AM
waste of a thread. :o

lonny23
11-14-2005, 05:06 AM
waste of a thread. :o
They gave them a scare last year. It could happen again, but I do think SLC is better this year than last year.

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 05:56 AM
there is absolutely no way that Madison will ever beat SLC.....Smithson Valley would have a better chance to win because of there familiarity of SLC's offense and schemes...SLC would pick Madison apart....


And how many area games did you pick right last week? :D
SM has no opinion until the week of the Madison/SLC game! :p

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 05:58 AM
waste of a thread. :o

No, but definately a waste of a post. You should be penalized two posts for that! :p

lonny23
11-14-2005, 06:33 AM
No, but definately a waste of a post. You should be penalized two posts for that! :p
I'll forgive him because he just gave me and you 1 each! :p

lonny23
11-14-2005, 06:34 AM
I'll forgive him because he just gave me and you 1 each! :p
If we played baseball, me and you would lead the league in infield hits. I guess I'll be Willy Taveras! :D

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 06:37 AM
I'll forgive him because he just gave me and you 1 each! :p


You're like the Fox(es) News Channel...Fair and Balanced...

Now that's 4 four us and 1 for him. :D

lonny23
11-14-2005, 06:39 AM
And how many area games did you pick right last week? :D
SM has no opinion until the week of the Madison/SLC game! :p
I'm sure they have an opinion on Madison/SV, but we already know what they'll say.

We beat Madison.
SV beat us.
SV beats Madison again.

It doesn't always work that way. Round 1 had two repeat matchups. One team won both games, but the other series was split.

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 06:41 AM
I'm sure they have an opinion on Madison/SV, but we already know what they'll say.

We beat Madison.
SV beat us.
SV beats Madison again.

It doesn't always work that way. Round 1 had two repeat matchups. One team won both games, but the other series was split.


No it doesn't always work...

Everybody beat Judson :p
SM beat everybody :D
SM is at home :eek:

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 06:44 AM
I'm sure they have an opinion on Madison/SV, but we already know what they'll say.

We beat Madison.
SV beat us.
SV beats Madison again.

It doesn't always work that way. Round 1 had two repeat matchups. One team won both games, but the other series was split.



What about
We beat Madison
SC beat us
Madison knocked off the 25's only hope
Madison could go all the way! :eek:

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 06:46 AM
I'm sure they have an opinion on Madison/SV, but we already know what they'll say.

We beat Madison.
SV beat us.
SV beats Madison again.

It doesn't always work that way. Round 1 had two repeat matchups. One team won both games, but the other series was split.

Or maybe
If we had beaten Madison by more than 3
And if we had beaten SC
We'd still be at home pulling for SV

lonny23
11-14-2005, 07:01 AM
You're like the Fox(es) News Channel...Fair and Balanced...

Now that's 4 four us and 1 for him. :D
I must say times are better now than before. You just had women doing the news when I was a kid. I mean they didn't look bad, but you practically have models on TV now. CNN and Fox are in a constant war to see who has the prettier women.

Today, I was looking at a Chadwick's catalog that came in the mail for a girl that already left. You know the only reason I was looking at it was to see the women. There wasn't one bad looking woman in the whole catalog. It's just clothes, with no bras, swimsuits, or lingerie. The women aren't professional models that you always hear about, but they're just regular women from their 20's to their 40's that really take care of themselves. I told one guy that it didn't used to be that way. The Sears catalog had some decent looking women in it, but some weren't that great and the women in bras weren't what you hoped for! :mad: I told him that women used to reach a point where they just got old and looked old, but they take better care of themselves now and hide their age. It's like that 50 year old woman in the Bowflex commercial on TV! :eek:

I have a disclaimer for the girls and women on the board. Men talk less than women, but some men talk a lot. We talk about women and all kinds of stuff amongst ourselves. This board is a good place to get a feel for how men are if you happen to catch our random conversations. We are different from you and we welcome your input into what makes you tick, too. There is a happy medium between the sexes that we don't do a good enough job finding.

Men are visual and if you have a man in your life, he wants to see you look good. That's not all he cares about, but it's important. He needs to get in tune with you emotionally, but that's going to take you communicating with him. He's not going to be able to read your mind, but if you tell him how you feel, he will do a lot better job.

We need to stop all these games between the sexes. This dishonest crap needs to stop. Stop using men for money and guys need to stop using girls for sex. It's not cool to lead people on and cut them off at the last minute. Girls, you need to give up on trying to rehabilitate guys. You'll get your heart broken by a jerk everytime. The good guys that none of the women want to go for are the better one's. Both sides need to watch the other party because most people are sneaky and you need to know what they're really like. There's almost always some good in the worst people, but in the game of love, very few people are as good as they appear.

Since this is a football post, I must say:

GO JUDSON!
GO MADISON!
GO SMITHSON VALLEY!

lonny23
11-14-2005, 07:03 AM
We need our own forum! :p

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:07 AM
We've come a long way from National Geographic!!! :eek:

MadisonMaverickChick
11-14-2005, 07:08 AM
since that wasnt completely off topic at all Lonny....

anyways,as for Madison being able to stop the dragons? Dont count your marbles too soon. We have a great team,but once we get behind in a game(not including the Mac game) we get frustrated and give up real fast. And you better believe the dragons would run the score up on us.

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:09 AM
We need our own forum! :p


We have our own thread. :D

BigArab
11-14-2005, 07:46 AM
I hope so...I want to hear some excuses.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 07:48 AM
We have our own thread. :D
Yeah, it's called "All of them!" :p

lonny23
11-14-2005, 07:55 AM
since that wasnt completely off topic at all Lonny....

anyways,as for Madison being able to stop the dragons? Dont count your marbles too soon. We have a great team,but once we get behind in a game(not including the Mac game) we get frustrated and give up real fast. And you better believe the dragons would run the score up on us.
You have a lot of insight. My biggest complaint for Streety's teams are that they are frontrunners. They are very good about running off a lot of points and running up the score when they get ahead, but never have had great focus to work through problems. It seems like some of that has disappeared this year and Mad Fan thinks they are more mentally prepared than previous years. I sure hope so. You don't need to get behind against SLC, but you can't panic and make mistakes because it's just an avalanche.

I write stuff like I wrote a few posts ago to try to help people. I'm on here a lot and feel like I owe it to the other posters to give a little advice here and there. I'm not doing the things I need to do if I just talk about football when I'm on here.

GoRangers
11-14-2005, 08:46 AM
No, but definately a waste of a post. You should be penalized two posts for that! :p

Okay by me. All of this emphasis on SLC is crap because the Region III vs Region IV matchup should be foremost. Only SV has beaten Katy, and doing so this year will be an incredible feat. So, I'd like to hear how Madison thinks they'd do it.

Overlooking Region III is insulting and a mistake.

Slim-Rob
11-14-2005, 08:51 AM
If you look at the complete Dominance of Judson over the 26-5 over the past 20 years, you will see that 2 off years should be allowed. If we want to start talking mess, lets just go look at Judson owning NEISD.

PaulinPlano
11-14-2005, 09:36 AM
They gave them a scare last year. It could happen again, but I do think SLC is better this year than last year.

Do your stats tell you that?

I saw SLC this year and last year and they were better last year. Chase Daniel looked like he was a dad out there playing with his kids.

SLC almost lost to Grapevine late in the season. They had to pull that one out of the fire. They don't look as unbeatable this year as they did last year though they still have to be the favorite.

mavalumni2003
11-14-2005, 09:48 AM
It would be tight to see Madison beat SLC....... as having played for madison and losing in the quarterfinals in 2001 and 2002 I wanna see my alma mater win state. But this yr's team is probably weaker defensively than teams in the past. We had take over defensive guys that could control games. (anthony arline, daniel smith etc) this yr I don't see that. But they are an awesome team none the less. But an SLC offense will be hard to stop for a MAdison team of any yr.

allendad
11-14-2005, 09:50 AM
What are you talkin' about . . . . .

They won't be playin' after this Saturday!

;^)


Allendad

mavalumni2003
11-14-2005, 09:53 AM
Let's hope so we don't have to hear about ho awesome SLC is..... and it can be a pointless thread like the SC vs SV thread

lonny23
11-14-2005, 09:58 AM
Do your stats tell you that?

I saw SLC this year and last year and they were better last year. Chase Daniel looked like he was a dad out there playing with his kids.

SLC almost lost to Grapevine late in the season. They had to pull that one out of the fire. They don't look as unbeatable this year as they did last year though they still have to be the favorite.
Yes, the stats say they are more dominant. I will give you that the playoffs may show Daniel was better to have at QB last year.

bullrock
11-14-2005, 09:58 AM
Mav,
You've only beat one team so far and I think most would agree they were not near the caliber of SLC. I know they were in thier heads, but that didn't get them the win. It is pretty bold to come on the board and procalim 265 would beat SLC in big bold letters! Please, jusy identify your team and don't roll all of us in with your opinion. There is a kind of "gent's agreement", although unspoken and often ignored, about doing so in a heading. I think it is very commendable to think your team will beat them but that doesn't mean all of 265 would go the extreme you have. Do you understand what those big bold letters could do to 265 a month from now? They wouldn't look too good hanging over the lockers in the Dragons Den. Control your enthusiasm and remember, what you say could be the downfall of your team or even worse, the downfall of one of the others in 265.

mavalumni2003
11-14-2005, 10:00 AM
are you talking to me or the other mav>

dragonfootballfan
11-14-2005, 10:25 AM
Earlier in the season it was Longview that was going to beat Carroll, Then it was Trinity, last week it was Plano and this week it is either Madison or Smithson Valley. I wonder how these two teams will fair this week?

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 10:31 AM
Okay by me. All of this emphasis on SLC is crap because the Region III vs Region IV matchup should be foremost. Only SV has beaten Katy, and doing so this year will be an incredible feat. So, I'd like to hear how Madison thinks they'd do it.

Overlooking Region III is insulting and a mistake.

Grasshopper, I did not create the thread...I just follow the path laid before me..

rellufnalla
11-14-2005, 10:50 AM
It looks like all of us down here in Katy are thinking about this week's game.

If we post two more shutouts like we did this week and the week before, then I will start weighing which R2 or 3 team would be better able to take the Dragons in a state game. Lets see now, the one that beat them or the one that has lost twice? I dunno.

Note to Lonny - If you get one of those 33" LCD monitors, you won't need the mags anymore. :cool:

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 10:52 AM
It looks like all of us down here in Katy are thinking about this week's game.

If we post two more shutouts like we did this week and the week before, then I will start weighing which R2 or 3 team would be better able to take the Dragons in a state game. Lets see now, the one that beat them or the one that has lost twice? I dunno.

Note to Lonny - If you get one of those 33" LCD monitors, you won't need the mags anymore. :cool:

You're bringing those guys back? Are you allowed to do that? :p

RATTLERS316
11-14-2005, 11:07 AM
And how many area games did you pick right last week? :D
SM has no opinion until the week of the Madison/SLC game! :p i think i have a good opinion on this cause we did beat yall and plus i have seen SLC play several times and i just know they would hand your ***** to u on a plate if u even made it far enough to play them...madison is good but not that good...but i dont come on here and make predicitons that san marcos is gonna go to state and beat SLC..there is still a lot of games left to be played so dont get ahead of yourself

rellufnalla
11-14-2005, 11:20 AM
You're bringing those guys back? Are you allowed to do that? :p

As long as nobody notices. :D

The 2003 team as a whole was not near as good as 2005. That is just my opinion as posted previously 3 weeks ago.

Time will tell.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 11:27 AM
It looks like all of us down here in Katy are thinking about this week's game.

If we post two more shutouts like we did this week and the week before, then I will start weighing which R2 or 3 team would be better able to take the Dragons in a state game. Lets see now, the one that beat them or the one that has lost twice? I dunno.

Note to Lonny - If you get one of those 33" LCD monitors, you won't need the mags anymore. :cool:
I've got a 31 inch monitor and don't need the magazines, now! :D I've had the thing since 1996, but might get one of the 36 inch jobs one day.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 11:29 AM
You're bringing those guys back? Are you allowed to do that? :p
Maybe that's what they did in 1998 with the 1994 or 1997 guys! :p

KT2000
11-14-2005, 11:35 AM
Don't forget 99 and 2000, Lonny ;) .

Obviously, nothing is guaranteed for anyone left standing at this point. It'll be interesting, as always, to see everything unfold. That's the beauty of a playoff system (even though we end up with two champs). It's done on the field and not on a computer.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 12:11 PM
Don't forget 99 and 2000, Lonny ;) .

Obviously, nothing is guaranteed for anyone left standing at this point. It'll be interesting, as always, to see everything unfold. That's the beauty of a playoff system (even though we end up with two champs). It's done on the field and not on a computer.
There's one good thing about the computer. You can lose and still argue that you were BETTER! :D

svhorns
11-14-2005, 05:14 PM
Do your stats tell you that?

I saw SLC this year and last year and they were better last year. Chase Daniel looked like he was a dad out there playing with his kids.

SLC almost lost to Grapevine late in the season. They had to pull that one out of the fire. They don't look as unbeatable this year as they did last year though they still have to be the favorite.
Thats what I was thinking, with Luna and Daniel how can they be better than last year? Aaron Luna was a bowling bowl he bounced off people never went down. Daniel was a player he got hit plenty of times in the backfield and even was frustrated at a point but came back and led his SLC team over SV which isnt a very easy thing to do esp. last year. I also believe the SLC defense last year was better than they are this year and its not a knock on this years D cause im sure its good

svhorns
11-14-2005, 05:19 PM
What also scares me is that all the katy fans are keeping pretty quiet around here, they are just laying low waiting to punish some teams.

toonman
11-14-2005, 05:32 PM
Thats what I was thinking, with Luna and Daniel how can they be better than last year? Aaron Luna was a bowling bowl he bounced off people never went down. Daniel was a player he got hit plenty of times in the backfield and even was frustrated at a point but came back and led his SLC team over SV which isnt a very easy thing to do esp. last year. I also believe the SLC defense last year was better than they are this year and its not a knock on this years D cause im sure its good


I was at Texas Stadium on Saturday, with a few neutrals. We agreed that SLC is in class of it’s own, as compared to the other teams playing on Saturday. Having read many of the SLC threads. The message is that the Defense is SLCs best yet in 5A. The Offense’s output in 2005 is higher than it was in 2004. The Rushing game is different this year. Using your analogy, yes Luna was a bowling ball, but Newton has stealth like and lightening speed. SLC has a different rushing game this year. To fill Daniels shoes was always going to be difficult but on Saturday SLC's offense looked awesome. Greg M did a great job. The Defense did not allow I-Mac to earn a 1st Down until the second half. An SLC penalty gave I-Mac it's only 1st Down in the first half.

rellufnalla
11-14-2005, 06:08 PM
What also scares me is that all the katy fans are keeping pretty quiet around here, they are just laying low waiting to punish some teams.

Its called "pull the starters after the first drive in the third quarter, lets see if second string can hold the line." You might be taking notice of those shutouts about now.

We're loading the coal car today and building up a head of steam.

G Unit21
11-14-2005, 06:08 PM
Southlake is very prompt and shows great dedication to the sport. It will be a great game who ever the opponet will be.

sendero
11-14-2005, 06:18 PM
What also scares me is that all the katy fans are keeping pretty quiet around here, they are just laying low waiting to punish some teams.

Just say something about Strake they will come......

TIGER07
11-14-2005, 06:50 PM
[QUOTE=maverick#23]The winner of the expected Smithson Valley vs. San Antonio Madison D2 region 4 final will beat Katy and advance to face the Dragons in the State Final.





I will make sure and let the Tigers know to not even show up for this game if it happens, since the outcome has already been predicted..LOL :p

I am also sure SLC is thankkful that they made it to the state game ahead of time as well..

HOOKEM
11-14-2005, 07:02 PM
I would pull for SV, as I did last year but I would make such a bold thread saying that they will beat SLC.
Last year was close, but they have not proved anything yet.
Go rockets 90'
Go SV
Go (this is really hard to say)Madison.

PantherStang84
11-14-2005, 07:11 PM
If I did'nt know better, I would get the impression some of the Longview posters have become R IV converts. Win one playoff game and already are demanding the trophy. Sorry, it doesn't work that way! You must win 6 straight games in DII and 5 in DI. That is how the championships are decided in this state.

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=maverick#23]The winner of the expected Smithson Valley vs. San Antonio Madison D2 region 4 final will beat Katy and advance to face the Dragons in the State Final.





I will make sure and let the Tigers know to not even show up for this game if it happens, since the outcome has already been predicted..LOL :p

I am also sure SLC is thankkful that they made it to the state game ahead of time as well..

That'll help, but say determined rather than predicted. :D

KTFURB
11-14-2005, 07:30 PM
The whole premise is a moot point because its unlikely either will beat Katy. SV has a chance because they've done it, but Madison would get the same whipping all the other SA teams have gotten. As for the blazing speed comment, I've seen all the semi games that Katy has played and none of the SA teams have ever shown the type of overall speed that exists in the Houston area. Even the not so good teams like Elsik and Hastings have more speed this year than I've ever witnessed from a SA team. This is not to say that there aren't quality teams in Reg. 4...there are, but they don't possess great team speed.

YouKnowTha3T
11-14-2005, 07:35 PM
You know what ive tried to stay off the boards now that im not in HS anymore..but ive been reading some ridiculous things...what does smithson valley have now that they didnt have last year and htey didnt have two years ago..i mean honestly they have had two shots and neither time had the offense to do it..ill be the first to tell everyone that SV was a WR away from winning state last year..they cant catch crap..the coaching is terrible..they had us beat so why all of a sudden did they stop running the ball which was working and starting going long all of a sudden...they tried to beat us at our own game..they need two things in order to ever beat SLC..thats an offense and a new coach

dragons08
11-14-2005, 07:35 PM
They gave them a scare last year. It could happen again, but I do think SLC is better this year than last year.
true statement

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:37 PM
The whole premise is a moot point because its unlikely either will beat Katy. SV has a chance because they've done it, but Madison would get the same whipping all the other SA teams have gotten. As for the blazing speed comment, I've seen all the semi games that Katy has played and none of the SA teams have ever shown the type of overall speed that exists in the Houston area. Even the not so good teams like Elsik and Hastings have more speed this year than I've ever witnessed from a SA team. This is not to say that there aren't quality teams in Reg. 4...there are, but they don't possess great team speed.


Those who paid too much attention to history didn't see Pearl Harbor coming. :)

PantherStang84
11-14-2005, 07:42 PM
Those who paid too much attention to history didn't see Pearl Harbor coming.

Yeah. And those who try to cross the tracks without looking never see the train coming either. Making bold , smack filled, predictions is like crossing the tracks with abandon. The safest bet is to play one game at a time and let the matchups take care of themselves. Just ask some of the Longview folks. :eek:

KTFURB
11-14-2005, 07:46 PM
I don't really believe that the semi game will be a cakewalk as these are HS kids and anything can happen. It was more of a response to the premise that either team will handle Katy. This may be the best team we've had, with an offense that has been unstoppable and a typical swarming, smothering defense. If either of those teams can beat us, more power to them. My past observations lead me to believe this is not the year SA beats Katy.

TexasRed6x
11-14-2005, 07:49 PM
As a fan of 26-5A we are getting caried away early on. After this weekend all 26-5A was beat up on a preety averge 25-5a. I not saying that either Madison or Sv would give Katy or SLC a run for their money, but I would only play one game at a time, and stop talking about what might or might not happen in the future.

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:50 PM
Yeah. And those who try to cross the tracks without looking never see the train coming either. Making bold , smack filled, predictions is like crossing the tracks with abandon. The safest bet is to play one game at a time and let the matchups take care of themselves. Just ask some of the Longview folks. :eek:

Making bold, smack filled STATEMENTS is the fun part!! :D

KTFURB
11-14-2005, 07:52 PM
Almost forgot...anyone who believs SV's coaches can't coach is not an astute observer of the game. The SV team that beat Katy did not have great athletes...they out coached Katy that day! And anyone who doesn't believe that is an achievement in itself doesn't know anything about this game. SV fans...I cant believe you don't have the coach's back on this one!

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:52 PM
As a fan of 26-5A we are getting caried away early on. After this weekend all 26-5A was beat up on a preety averge 25-5a. I not saying that either Madison or Sv would give Katy or SLC a run for their money, but I would only play one game at a time, and stop talking about what might or might not happen in the future.


I'm just having fun, but will try to control myself! :(

TexasRed6x
11-14-2005, 07:54 PM
I'm just having fun, but will try to control myself! :(


Hey its that time of the year, I think the state will find out in time what we are talking about.

mad_fan
11-14-2005, 07:56 PM
Almost forgot...anyone who believs SV's coaches can't coach is not an astute observer of the game. The SV team that beat Katy did not have great athletes...they out coached Katy that day! And anyone who doesn't believe that is an achievement in itself doesn't know anything about this game. SV fans...I cant believe you don't have the coach's back on this one!


Did you read the thread? It was started by somebody that has 2 posts as I type. If you read it I think you would see that we all thought it was a joke. :D

zippy
11-14-2005, 08:10 PM
Hasnt SV only been in 26-5 for 2 years?

If you look at the complete Dominance of Judson over the 26-5 over the past 20 years, you will see that 2 off years should be allowed. If we want to start talking mess, lets just go look at Judson owning NEISD.

zippy
11-14-2005, 08:12 PM
If you want to compare 3 different teams like you are doing, I will add in that Katy did beat SLC, SV has not, but SV DID beat Katy....


It looks like all of us down here in Katy are thinking about this week's game.

If we post two more shutouts like we did this week and the week before, then I will start weighing which R2 or 3 team would be better able to take the Dragons in a state game. Lets see now, the one that beat them or the one that has lost twice? I dunno.

Note to Lonny - If you get one of those 33" LCD monitors, you won't need the mags anymore. :cool:

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:22 PM
As long as nobody notices. :D

The 2003 team as a whole was not near as good as 2005. That is just my opinion as posted previously 3 weeks ago.

Time will tell.


So you think this team is better than Katy's 2003 state championship team? They must be damn good because that team was tough enough to get the job done against SLC.

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:29 PM
The whole premise is a moot point because its unlikely either will beat Katy. SV has a chance because they've done it, but Madison would get the same whipping all the other SA teams have gotten. As for the blazing speed comment, I've seen all the semi games that Katy has played and none of the SA teams have ever shown the type of overall speed that exists in the Houston area. Even the not so good teams like Elsik and Hastings have more speed this year than I've ever witnessed from a SA team. This is not to say that there aren't quality teams in Reg. 4...there are, but they don't possess great team speed.

Oh really! Even some of the Judson teams that had their running backs and wide receivers run the 4 X 100 relay in 40 flat in several different years! They seemed to compete OK not only on the track at state meets but also in the state semis and finals in football!

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:35 PM
You know what ive tried to stay off the boards now that im not in HS anymore..but ive been reading some ridiculous things...what does smithson valley have now that they didnt have last year and htey didnt have two years ago..i mean honestly they have had two shots and neither time had the offense to do it..ill be the first to tell everyone that SV was a WR away from winning state last year..they cant catch crap..the coaching is terrible..they had us beat so why all of a sudden did they stop running the ball which was working and starting going long all of a sudden...they tried to beat us at our own game..they need two things in order to ever beat SLC..thats an offense and a new coach

Wow, tell us what you really think! SV needs a new coach? Well I guess if they want to let him go, there'll be about 1,000 Texas HS trying to find a way to hire him! Did you really play for SLC? Because if you did, then Dodge really is a genius to be able to teach a nuckle head like you something! :eek:

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:36 PM
I'm just having fun, but will try to control myself! :(

You go and have your fun! I damn sure would be if it hadn't have been for your Mavs! :(

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:38 PM
Hasnt SV only been in 26-5 for 2 years?

You don't even know how long your team has been 5a, what the hell is that Zippy? SV is not my team but I'd guess this is their 4th year in 5a. Somebody please correct me if I'm mistaken. :confused:

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:40 PM
If you want to compare 3 different teams like you are doing, I will add in that Katy did beat SLC, SV has not, but SV DID beat Katy....

Now that is a very valid point. But, I don't think that SV would have beaten Katy in 03' when they did beat SLC! It's hard to say who will beat who in HS matchups, especially in two different years because of that little thing called graduation. :D

seansvranger
11-14-2005, 08:46 PM
You don't even know how long your team has been 5a, what the hell is that Zippy? SV is not my team but I'd guess this is their 4th year in 5a. Somebody please correct me if I'm mistaken. :confused:
no he said 26 for a lil while i think they were in 27 for the first 2 years then last year they moved and yes they have been in 5a for 4 years but 26-5a for only 2 of those

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:47 PM
no he said 26 for a lil while i think they were in 27 for the first 2 years then last year they moved and yes they have been in 5a for 4 years but 26-5a for only 2 of those

Got ya! I figured Zippy was a little more of an SV fan than that! :)

zippy
11-14-2005, 08:47 PM
Trust me I know. It was more of a statement to get him to think about Judson dominating 26-5 for all that time, except for the past 2 years. And YES they have only been in 26-5 for 2 years. BUT they have been 5A for 4, BUT they were 27-5 up until moving to 26-5, and they are 1-1 against Judson.


You don't even know how long your team has been 5a, what the hell is that Zippy? SV is not my team but I'd guess this is their 4th year in 5a. Somebody please correct me if I'm mistaken. :confused:

ktCarl
11-14-2005, 08:48 PM
What also scares me is that all the katy fans are keeping pretty quiet around here, they are just laying low waiting to punish some teams.

It's our style. There is a Tiger lurking in Region III.
But mostly(Clear Lake)we have learned(Clear Lake)to
not make bold predictions(Clear Lake)about how we
will beat teams(Clear Lake)3 or 4 games down the road.
We are only fixated on the next opponent.

TxLawDawg
11-14-2005, 08:52 PM
You know what ive tried to stay off the boards now that im not in HS anymore..but ive been reading some ridiculous things...what does smithson valley have now that they didnt have last year and htey didnt have two years ago..i mean honestly they have had two shots and neither time had the offense to do it..ill be the first to tell everyone that SV was a WR away from winning state last year..they cant catch crap..the coaching is terrible..they had us beat so why all of a sudden did they stop running the ball which was working and starting going long all of a sudden...they tried to beat us at our own game..they need two things in order to ever beat SLC..thats an offense and a new coach


You are an idiot.

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 08:58 PM
You are an idiot.

No, he is a legend! A legend in his own mind! :D I'm just wondering what position he played for Todd Dodge. I bet you that he never saw the field except for a tackling dummy in practice! :eek:

ktCarl
11-14-2005, 08:59 PM
So you think this team is better than Katy's 2003 state championship team? They must be damn good because that team was tough enough to get the job done against SLC.

The 2005 team can't yet be better than the 2003 team 'cause it hasn't won State. It's a better balanced team than the 2003 team. They can still run with authority like in 2003 and now have a good passing game to go along with it. Plus the 2005 defense is quicker and the special teams are better. Can Katy win State? There's a good chance for it but I'm not going to blow hot air like the beginning of this thread and guarantee it. You guys talk it up while we in Katy will just focus on our next opponent.

ktCarl
11-14-2005, 09:07 PM
I must say times are better now than before. You just had women doing the news when I was a kid. I mean they didn't look bad, but you practically have models on TV now. CNN and Fox are in a constant war to see who has the prettier women.

Today, I was looking at a Chadwick's catalog that came in the mail for a girl that already left. You know the only reason I was looking at it was to see the women. There wasn't one bad looking woman in the whole catalog. It's just clothes, with no bras, swimsuits, or lingerie. The women aren't professional models that you always hear about, but they're just regular women from their 20's to their 40's that really take care of themselves. I told one guy that it didn't used to be that way. The Sears catalog had some decent looking women in it, but some weren't that great and the women in bras weren't what you hoped for! :mad: I told him that women used to reach a point where they just got old and looked old, but they take better care of themselves now and hide their age. It's like that 50 year old woman in the Bowflex commercial on TV! :eek:

I have a disclaimer for the girls and women on the board. Men talk less than women, but some men talk a lot. We talk about women and all kinds of stuff amongst ourselves. This board is a good place to get a feel for how men are if you happen to catch our random conversations. We are different from you and we welcome your input into what makes you tick, too. There is a happy medium between the sexes that we don't do a good enough job finding.

Men are visual and if you have a man in your life, he wants to see you look good. That's not all he cares about, but it's important. He needs to get in tune with you emotionally, but that's going to take you communicating with him. He's not going to be able to read your mind, but if you tell him how you feel, he will do a lot better job.

We need to stop all these games between the sexes. This dishonest crap needs to stop. Stop using men for money and guys need to stop using girls for sex. It's not cool to lead people on and cut them off at the last minute. Girls, you need to give up on trying to rehabilitate guys. You'll get your heart broken by a jerk everytime. The good guys that none of the women want to go for are the better one's. Both sides need to watch the other party because most people are sneaky and you need to know what they're really like. There's almost always some good in the worst people, but in the game of love, very few people are as good as they appear.

Since this is a football post, I must say:

GO JUDSON!
GO MADISON!
GO SMITHSON VALLEY!

Where in the Wide World of Sports did that come from, Lonny? There must be only Oprah Winfrey magazines in the 'johns' at Kirkisdirt.

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 09:11 PM
The 2005 team can't yet be better than the 2003 team 'cause it hasn't won State. It's a better balanced team than the 2003 team. They can still run with authority like in 2003 and now have a good passing game to go along with it. Plus the 2005 defense is quicker and the special teams are better. Can Katy win State? There's a good chance for it but I'm not going to blow hot air like the beginning of this thread and guarantee it. You guys talk it up while we in Katy will just focus on our next opponent.

I'd have to say that there is a really good chance that they will win if they are better than 03'. That team was very good, tough both mentally and physically! You know that we will have to support our R4 rep against you guys in the semis, but if Katy wins, we'll be pulling for you like all the SC fans did in 03'! That was one of the greatest HS finals that I've ever watched! Good luck Tigers.

rellufnalla
11-14-2005, 09:54 PM
So you think this team is better than Katy's 2003 state championship team? They must be damn good because that team was tough enough to get the job done against SLC.

Yes I do. Absolutely. Will they go as far? Who knows.

At most, I may have missed 2 or 3 Katy games in the last six years. This year, I believe I am looking at a team that has a balanced offense with many more play options compared to prior years. Defense is rock-solid Katy style with improved secondary. The only chink in the armor is with point after and FG percentage.

Previous Katy teams used rushing offense with enough passing ability to force a defender to cover deep allowing a back to gain yards. It was slow, ground ball that got the job done.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 09:58 PM
You don't even know how long your team has been 5a, what the hell is that Zippy? SV is not my team but I'd guess this is their 4th year in 5a. Somebody please correct me if I'm mistaken. :confused:
He didn't say 5A. He said 2 years of 26-5A.

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 10:01 PM
Yes I do. Absolutely. Will they go as far? Who knows.

At most, I may have missed 2 or 3 Katy games in the last six years. This year, I believe I am looking at a team that has a balanced offense with many more play options compared to prior years. Defense is rock-solid Katy style with improved secondary. The only chink in the armor is with point after and FG percentage.

Previous Katy teams used rushing offense with enough passing ability to force a defender to cover deep allowing a back to gain yards. It was slow, ground ball that got the job done.

Doesn't sound like the Tigers are really in need of those PATs or the FGs the way that they have been pasting everyone that they have played this year! I check out all the scores every week and I don't even remember anyone playing them even marginally close this year!!! But the one place that they may need these PATs and FGs would be in a close game in the semis or finals, if anyone can stay close to them.

Do they have the size on the lines like they had in 03'? And what about that power RB that was a senior that year, is he playing anywhere? Or that Big O-lineman? That team had a whole lot of talent as I remember and they played really hard. They could wear down teams with those awesome lines! How about that Soph that picked off the pass at the end of the championship game? Is he still on the team?

clemensbuff
11-14-2005, 10:03 PM
He didn't say 5A. He said 2 years of 26-5A.

Lonny, what in the hell are you doing up at this hour? Don't you ever sleep anymore? Are you so pumped up about CJ that you can't even get a good nights sleep anymore? :)

lonny23
11-14-2005, 10:04 PM
Where in the Wide World of Sports did that come from, Lonny? There must be only Oprah Winfrey magazines in the 'johns' at Kirkisdirt.
All I know is Mad said something and I wrote back. Then in my next post, I felt it was necessary to make a public service announcement. Hey, I did a sexual assault post about 3 weeks ago! :D

Asa far as the toilet goes, it's misery. We have port-a-johns and it's too cold to be outside. You know something is wrong when you pee and see smoke. Pretty soon the crap is going to refuse to come out. They are opening some new dorms and at least I can walk a short distance to take a dump at that time.

lonny23
11-14-2005, 10:06 PM
Where in the Wide World of Sports did that come from, Lonny? There must be only Oprah Winfrey magazines in the 'johns' at Kirkisdirt.
With a quote like that, you must've seen Blazing Saddles. I heard SLC dances like those guys from Kansas City! :p

rellufnalla
11-14-2005, 10:38 PM
Doesn't sound like the Tigers are really in need of those PATs or the FGs the way that they have been pasting everyone that they have played this year! I check out all the scores every week and I don't even remember anyone playing them even marginally close this year!!! But the one place that they may need these PATs and FGs would be in a close game in the semis or finals, if anyone can stay close to them.

Do they have the size on the lines like they had in 03'? And what about that power RB that was a senior that year, is he playing anywhere? Or that Big O-lineman? That team had a whole lot of talent as I remember and they played really hard. They could wear down teams with those awesome lines! How about that Soph that picked off the pass at the end of the championship game? Is he still on the team?

At the end of the road those PATs and FGs are critical and can cost you a game. Case in point 2003 KT/SLC 16-15.

Rather than one back, we have two to share the load - not nearly as predictable when trying to defend the rush. In 2003, Katy rode their horse (James Aston) darn near to death. Aston is at Ohio State this year.

Will Thompson is a SR and is part and parcel of secondary defense along with Mr. Konesheck. Both are lightning quick, intuitive and act as receivers at times to open up offense.

The O-line has allowed only a handfull of sacs this season. The QB can read the Sunday paper before sending his special delivery.

ktCarl
11-15-2005, 12:12 AM
All I know is Mad said something and I wrote back. Then in my next post, I felt it was necessary to make a public service announcement. Hey, I did a sexual assault post about 3 weeks ago! :D

Asa far as the toilet goes, it's misery. We have port-a-johns and it's too cold to be outside. You know something is wrong when you pee and see smoke. Pretty soon the crap is going to refuse to come out. They are opening some new dorms and at least I can walk a short distance to take a dump at that time.


TMI !!!!!!! :eek:

mad_fan
11-15-2005, 04:42 AM
All I know is Mad said something and I wrote back. Then in my next post, I felt it was necessary to make a public service announcement. Hey, I did a sexual assault post about 3 weeks ago! :D

Asa far as the toilet goes, it's misery. We have port-a-johns and it's too cold to be outside. You know something is wrong when you pee and see smoke. Pretty soon the crap is going to refuse to come out. They are opening some new dorms and at least I can walk a short distance to take a dump at that time.


I like your PSA's...particularly the one's in useless threads like this...and I'm glad I could inspire you on this one with the Fox(es) News Channel comment. :D

It's Mad's fault! :mad:

lonny23
11-15-2005, 05:02 AM
Lonny, what in the hell are you doing up at this hour? Don't you ever sleep anymore? Are you so pumped up about CJ that you can't even get a good nights sleep anymore? :)
I'm 12 hours ahead of you. My times that seem crazy are normal for me. My crazy hours to be up are the middle of the afternoon your time. If I'm up at 4 A.M., it's 4 P.M. in most of Texas.

lonny23
11-15-2005, 05:05 AM
TMI !!!!!!! :eek:
I think that's the company that comes to clean the toilets! ;)

lonny23
11-15-2005, 05:10 AM
Where in the Wide World of Sports did that come from, Lonny? There must be only Oprah Winfrey magazines in the 'johns' at Kirkisdirt.
I've got a math formula for you.

Oprah Winfrey magazines in toilet = port-a-johns in cold weather! :p

No Okra around here. I don't even want to pull her up on the Internet. I don't think her head would fit on the monitor screen, anyway! :D

sv ranger
11-15-2005, 10:07 AM
Do your stats tell you that?

I saw SLC this year and last year and they were better last year. Chase Daniel looked like he was a dad out there playing with his kids.

SLC almost lost to Grapevine late in the season. They had to pull that one out of the fire. They don't look as unbeatable this year as they did last year though they still have to be the favorite.
slc was better lats year for two resons chase daniel and aaron luna

yankee
11-15-2005, 10:24 AM
The winner of the expected Smithson Valley vs. San Antonio Madison D2 region 4 final will beat Katy and advance to face the Dragons in the State Final. If Smithson Valley represents the 265 they will use their size and athleticism to control the clock with smashmouth football. If Madison represents their smaller faster defensive front and speedy secondary will neutralize the Carroll passing attack and the blazing speed of their skills players will permeate the Carroll defense and coverage teams. Look for the 265 to be the victor in a competitve state final. Hunger will be the ultimate difference and after years of swallowing state titles the Southlake Carroll Dragons have full stomachs.
what a terrible thread, madison will never beat slc and smithson valley, is tough but not better than slc.