No More Platooning at QB?

[SLCDad]

I noticed that Greg McElroy played the entire first half and Riley played the entire second half. Has the QB platooning ended for the playoffs at SLC? Anyone have any inside information?

There was a lot of discusson this board about the QB situation at SLC. Evidence now appears to support the fact that Coach Dodge knew exactly what he was doing. The Soph got experience and the starter developed very nicely at the same time.

Comments?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

SLC has a two headed monster going on. I heard what they did in their playoff game.

[hollywood]

Makes a great deal of sense. Develop the Sophmore during the year (son or not). Play your number one while the game is in doubt in the playoffs. You don't know how long he may need to go. Perhaps all or most of the game. If he is injured than you have a competent backup. Also, lets face it, when the game is no longer in doubt, rather than roll up an outrageous score with your starter you bring in some subs. Whats the point? Let alone injuries. Worse yet. Leave your number one in and have him practice not playing full out or maybe with subs. What would the point of that be? Not a good idea if you can avoid it. Get some practice and playoff experinence for next year. Your subs can play full out.

[southlake thug]

While everyone on here was worrying and arguing that Riley should start - I just said "wait" "relax". There was never any doubt that McElroy was the starter and that the position was his. You guys just gotta have a little faith.

If he doesn't get "5a texas player of the year" I am officially retiring from this board.

[PantherStang84]

If he doesn't get "5a texas player of the year" I am officially retiring from this board.

Remember folks, you heard it here first. :eek:

[SLC13]

While everyone on here was worrying and arguing that Riley should start - I just said "wait" "relax". There was never any doubt that McElroy was the starter and that the position was his. You guys just gotta have a little faith.

If he doesn't get "5a texas player of the year" I am officially retiring from this board.
I would be very surprised if he wins it. Not that his numbers aren't good enough, but he's got the fact that a SLC QB has won it three years in a row working against him........

[Redneckn]

SLC already has enough haters.. If he wins it this year, it will be a huge deal and we may never EVER hear the end of it...But if he is deserving, then he should get it...

[bugw09]

While everyone on here was worrying and arguing that Riley should start - I just said "wait" "relax". There was never any doubt that McElroy was the starter and that the position was his. You guys just gotta have a little faith.

If he doesn't get "5a texas player of the year" I am officially retiring from this board.

That's like saying whoever is the Texas Tech QB should get the Heisman every year. McElroy is good QB but there are better, not many but some.Dodge's system would make any QB look good. If Southlake wins the championship he has about a 50/50 chance otherwise I think its slim to none.

[dragonfootballfan]

That's like saying whoever is the Texas Tech QB should get the Heisman every year. McElroy is good QB but there are better, not many but some.Dodge's system would make any QB look good. If Southlake wins the championship he has about a 50/50 chance otherwise I think its slim to none.
First off the vote is done before the playoffs so a championship will not increase or decrease his chances. The next point is when was the last time that a Texas Tech quarterback lead their team to an undefeated season? It is not the same thing.

[BigFanSLC]

SLC has a two headed monster going on. I heard what they did in their playoff game.

i wouldnt say a two headed monster, more of a 8-headed monster. McElroy-Dodge-Newton-Renfro-Jacobson-Fentriss-Smiter-Allen. the d is just one big monster. snowball effect.

[implacable44]

While everyone on here was worrying and arguing that Riley should start - I just said "wait" "relax". There was never any doubt that McElroy was the starter and that the position was his. You guys just gotta have a little faith.

If he doesn't get "5a texas player of the year" I am officially retiring from this board.


can we buy the vote ? make it happen --please make it happen !

[Fleeman93]

Isn't there other QB's around the state in 5A that have better numbers? What are the arguments for him to get POY?

[southlake thug]

PASSING

Att Comp Yards Pct INT TD
314 204 3046 65.0 7 42


RUSHING

Yds Att. TD
485 118 10

[dragonfootballfan]

Isn't there other QB's around the state in 5A that have better numbers? What are the arguments for him to get POY?
you have to use stats before the playoffs because that is all that the voters can take into account.

McElroy is second in passing yards and trailed the leader by 103 yards.

McElroy is First in passing touchdowns with 38 and leads the second place person by 7 touchdowns.

McElroy leads the state's number one total offense.

[dragonsdaddy]

i'm not sure the poy votes are done before the po's start. i know the all-district selections are. i agree that a fourth year of slc qb's as poy is unlikely, regardless of theb situation. mc'd rather win another ring than be voted a poy. same with the national championship.

[southlake thug]

you have to use stats before the playoffs because that is all that the voters can take into account.

McElroy is second in passing yards and trailed the leader by 103 yards.

McElroy is First in passing touchdowns with 38 and leads the second place person by 7 touchdowns.

McElroy leads the state's number one total offense.


It could have been so much better if he had played more then half of each game. If he gets the snaps that chase had last year, records wouldnt have just been broken, they would have been shattered.

[implacable44]

i'm not sure the poy votes are done before the po's start. i know the all-district selections are. i agree that a fourth year of slc qb's as poy is unlikely, regardless of theb situation. mc'd rather win another ring than be voted a poy. same with the national championship.

they give rings out for the highschool national champion ? I didn't see those, wow is it like BcS style or what? offical national champs huh ? - wow !

[dragonfootballfan]

they give rings out for the highschool national champion ? I didn't see those, wow is it like BcS style or what? offical national champs huh ? - wow !
no he said he would want a state championship more than a national championship. Read his post again

[implacable44]

It could have been so much better if he had played more then half of each game. If he gets the snaps that chase had last year, records wouldnt have just been broken, they would have been shattered.

is this award limited to the DFW metroplex only ? There are no players from the Houston area worthy of this award ? or down in San Antonio ?

Dimitri Nance is not worthy I guess?

[southlake thug]

Actually I am not sure if I said McElroy was the only person who deserved it. I just personaly feel that he should, but that is just my opinion.

Nance is a good player, so is Potts, and Ponder, and the list goes on. I was just throwing out a comment and seeing what you guys thought.

I think Impac is just pissed casue he thought McElroy was going to be a bust. And he obviously isn't. I took crap from you all summer about how over-rated Greg was, and no I am just enjoying this moment and I am just waiting for you to admit that you were wrong.

[slc0204]

how will dodge light it up next year? and do yall think their is any chance of coach dodge leaving slc after the season?

[southlake thug]

Riley will do good - he is probably the best Sophmore QB I have seen in a while/ or ever. Coach Dodge wont leave next year, casue Riley still has 2 more years. After that, who knows.

[dragonsdaddy]

anything is possible. someone may make him an offer he can't refuse, but he and everyone around him are pretty steadfastly agreeing that he will coach riley. his stock continues to rise, and even if they only were to go 3 rounds next year, and 4 the next, i'm sure he would be smiling were he put on e-bay and in reality, that may just happen. wouldn't the aggies love to tap into some of that offensive knowledge? what would the aggies have to fork over to wash the burnt orange off his truck?

next year's team will be a challenge , but the cupboard will be anything but bare as there are some very very good underclassmen looking to step into the holes.

[implacable44]

Actually I am not sure if I said McElroy was the only person who deserved it. I just personaly feel that he should, but that is just my opinion.

Nance is a good player, so is Potts, and Ponder, and the list goes on. I was just throwing out a comment and seeing what you guys thought.

I think Impac is just pissed casue he thought McElroy was going to be a bust. And he obviously isn't. I took crap from you all summer about how over-rated Greg was, and no I am just enjoying this moment and I am just waiting for you to admit that you were wrong.

I don't think I ever said he was going to be a bust and suck - I don't think any QB could be a bust in that system with those wide receivers. I did however say that Riley was better than him and that I didn't think he was as good as some were claiming he was. - I must say he exceeded my expectations - especially as far as interceptions -- I still don't think he is an NFL quarterback like some folks were saying which sparked the controversy but he definitely exceeded my expectations.

[dragonfootballfan]

anything is possible. someone may make him an offer he can't refuse, but he and everyone around him are pretty steadfastly agreeing that he will coach riley. his stock continues to rise, and even if they only were to go 3 rounds next year, and 4 the next, i'm sure he would be smiling were he put on e-bay and in reality, that may just happen. wouldn't the aggies love to tap into some of that offensive knowledge? what would the aggies have to fork over to wash the burnt orange off his truck?

next year's team will be a challenge , but the cupboard will be anything but bare as there are some very very good underclassmen looking to step into the holes.
next year will probably be the biggest rebuilding that Dodge has done since converting the offense from the wishbone in his first year.

[implacable44]

how will dodge light it up next year? and do yall think their is any chance of coach dodge leaving slc after the season?


Why ? He is a hero and an icon in Southlake and I can't imagine the "benefits" he gets from the neighboring community. I saw DW get plenty of "benefits" at Judson where he was a hero and an icon but dodge is surrounded by 10x the money-- not saying that anything illegal goes on or did with DW but there are benefits to coaching highschool football in Texas --especially when you have success! DW never left although he had several opportunities.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

i wouldnt say a two headed monster, more of a 8-headed monster. McElroy-Dodge-Newton-Renfro-Jacobson-Fentriss-Smiter-Allen. the d is just one big monster. snowball effect.
Yeah I would say thats right.

[Lamont Cranston]

I noticed that Greg McElroy played the entire first half and Riley played the entire second half. Has the QB platooning ended for the playoffs at SLC? Anyone have any inside information?

There was a lot of discusson this board about the QB situation at SLC. Evidence now appears to support the fact that Coach Dodge knew exactly what he was doing. The Soph got experience and the starter developed very nicely at the same time.

Comments?

It was quite obvious from the start that the rules at SLC regarding QB changed markedly from the start in ‘05. Why? Some of the short phalanx of Dodge A.K’ers won’t like this, but here it is from an outsider but avid Dragon fan. Enough is enough! The QB bit at SLC has been commented on in-depth by knowledgeable analysts, several major college scouts, and more importantly, SLC boosters/fans, throughout the season. First indication something was going on was ‘04 when while “running” Scout Team no contact was allowed against “Jr”…unlike McElroy who took whacks every week in that role and contributed greatly to the Dragon Championship. Along the way, competitive QB's were forced out or relegated to the trash bin. It continued in '05 Spring workouts when “QB contact” was stopped after “Jr.“ got his bell rung. Then, further progressed with what many of latter call the laughable “SLC QB Carousel”. ’04 QB played almost every minute of every game…regardless of score. McElroy was given little if no opportunity “to develop” for ’05 and the few plays he was allowed in cleanup were behind 2nd/3rd lines...unlike "Jr". Some SLC watchers, who obviously have little or no knowledge of the QB position, and maybe even "Daddy", actually thought undersized and underdeveloped 17-year old Soph “Jr” would start this year. Ridiculous! Look at "Jr's" performances. To top it off, according to one major analyst, McElroy has played less than 10 quarters of ’05 SLC games so the "showcase" travesty could be perpetrated. From watching the last few games in person, and relative QB performances/flubs, many think Coach has finally awakened to the fact that only McElroy can win a SLC championship. If not he'd best. Bottom line: In the total process, as has been suggest by a major college website, McElroy has been cheated out of the opportunity to develop optimally and on the way set TX All-Time QB records! Our hats are off to Greg and his classy family for the way they have handled this obvious travesty and in particularly how Greg himself has continued to excel against all, including built in odds. So like it or not, that’s the way I as well as a lot of other folks see it. Go Dragons...all the way!

[implacable44]

It was quite obvious from the start that the rules at SLC regarding QB changed markedly from the start in ‘05. Why? Some of the short phalanx of Dodge A.K’ers won’t like this, but here it is from an outsider but avid Dragon fan. Enough is enough! The QB bit at SLC has been commented on in-depth by knowledgeable analysts, several major college scouts, and more importantly, SLC boosters/fans, throughout the season. First indication something was going on was ‘04 when while “running” Scout Team no contact was allowed against “Jr”…unlike McElroy who took whacks every week in that role and contributed greatly to the Dragon Championship. Along the way, competitive QB's were forced out or relegated to the trash bin. It continued in '05 Spring workouts when “QB contact” was stopped after “Jr.“ got his bell rung. Then, further progressed with what many of latter call the laughable “SLC QB Carousel”. ’04 QB played almost every minute of every game…regardless of score. McElroy was given little if no opportunity “to develop” for ’05 and the few plays he was allowed in cleanup were behind 2nd/3rd lines...unlike "Jr". Some SLC watchers, who obviously have little or no knowledge of the QB position, and maybe even "Daddy", actually thought undersized and underdeveloped 17-year old Soph “Jr” would start this year. Ridiculous! Look at "Jr's" performances. To top it off, according to one major analyst, McElroy has played less than 10 quarters of ’05 SLC games so the "showcase" travesty could be perpetrated. From watching the last few games in person, and relative QB performances/flubs, many think Coach has finally awakened to the fact that only McElroy can win a SLC championship. If not he'd best. Bottom line: In the total process, as has been suggest by a major college website, McElroy has been cheated out of the opportunity to develop optimally and on the way set TX All-Time QB records! Our hats are off to Greg and his classy family for the way they have handled this obvious travesty and in particularly how Greg himself has continued to excel against all, including built in odds. So like it or not, that’s the way I as well as a lot of other folks see it. Go Dragons...all the way!


Interesting perspective -- but I don't know if that realization has come yet - the whole 2nd half for Riley - I didn't know he was 17 -- a 17 yr old soph ? wow - pops held him back I guess? I graudated at 17 and he is a soph?

[raidercheerdad]

It could have been so much better if he had played more then half of each game. If he gets the snaps that chase had last year, records wouldnt have just been broken, they would have been shattered.
It could have been a whole lot worse if they had played anyone of any consequence during the season. That argument could go either way!

[fabdragnfan]

No way McElroy will get the 5a player of the year...I don't have a clue who would get it, but I'd be shocked if it were him.

[dragonfootballfan]

No way McElroy will get the 5a player of the year...I don't have a clue who would get it, but I'd be shocked if it were him.
My guess is Bradley Stephens from McAllen Memorial. He has 33 touchdowns this year on the ground.

[Blitzkreig]

Right on L.C.! You said what needed to be said for a long time. Have heard you and a couple of other folks in the “business” comment at various venues regarding the obvious travesty. Unbelievable that a class kid like McElroy would be held back by someone’s ego trip. But in our travels we see this same scenario play out around the country too often. Pretty pathetic. BTW another bombshell for the Dragon Nation: According to rivals and EA Sports McElroy got his pro-style coaching over several summers in SoCal from the premier prep QB Coach in the U.S. Believe if it had been left to the locals he’d have been S.O.L. What they do know very well in the SLC system is the very successful Harry High School “snap plus two and a cloud of dust”. Have to go that direction because sub 6’ QB’s can’t see over the line. Pretty common at high school level and, successful and obviously a winner. But, most certainly lacking the rare finesse McElroy demonstrates. Extrordinary for a kid barely 17. Saw the last game and saw the SLC thing with “Jr.“. What I didn’t see live and on film during “ Jr. Showcase” sessions were any semblance of pocket awareness, intermediate routes accuracy, or much of anything except a couple of floaters downfield to 1st string wide open receivers and scampering. Latter is fun to watch but will get him killed next year. He's no longer playing against kids two years younger than him. McElroy on the other hand can throw them all. The 15 yard out, dig, and curl are hard throws to make and he seems to step up in the pocket and deliver consistently. Also tired of the the lame "it's the system" trash. If that were true SLC would most likely being picking up QB's at 7-11. McElroy currently has the #1 stats in TX according to U.I.L. Best of luck to the Dragons in the playoffs. We believe they are TX's best 5A team led by the best QB in TX. If McElroy isn't POY there is only one reason, he was cheated out of it by an ego trip.

[dragonsdaddy]

bk and lc are 2 non-aware outsiders who likely read "quick" to gather whatever local news they don't pick up from usa today. i watched well over 75% of the practices last year, and mcelroy played zero snaps as a scout team qb. the full contact drills involving qb's is stupid in any program esp when the qb is such an integral part of the offense. other qb's left when they rightly surmised that riley would be starting as a jr and sr. wish they hadn't as the cupboard is bare after riley, and riley has proven to be somewhat injury-prone. the feeling that mce learned everything he knows about qb'ing in cali is tripe.

you 2 seem to have some serious issues with slc and dodge in particular. your dislike is couched very poorly in a professorial tone and seemingly knowledgeable-esque post. you have just enough knowledge to speak intelligently, but not enough to be accurate. oh well, no one said opinions had to have all the facts before boiling over and ruining the kitchen.

[implacable44]

bk and lc are 2 non-aware outsiders who likely read "quick" to gather whatever local news they don't pick up from usa today. i watched well over 75% of the practices last year, and mcelroy played zero snaps as a scout team qb. the full contact drills involving qb's is stupid in any program esp when the qb is such an integral part of the offense. other qb's left when they rightly surmised that riley would be starting as a jr and sr. wish they hadn't as the cupboard is bare after riley, and riley has proven to be somewhat injury-prone. the feeling that mce learned everything he knows about qb'ing in cali is tripe.

you 2 seem to have some serious issues with slc and dodge in particular. your dislike is couched very poorly in a professorial tone and seemingly knowledgeable-esque post. you have just enough knowledge to speak intelligently, but not enough to be accurate. oh well, no one said opinions had to have all the facts before boiling over and ruining the kitchen.


nope - nobody ever said that -- I mean look at your posts - I don't know either of these two -- common sense tells you Mcelroy's stats would have been a lot better had he played the same amount of time his predecessors did. I don't really care -- I just can't believe that Riley is 17 as a soph. - is that part true ?

[SLCDad]

The bottom line regarding the QB situation at SLC is that Greg McElroy is playing lights out now that the games actually count for something. Riley is correctly relegated to the back-up. McElroy's current level of play makes him arguably the premier HS QB in Texas (in my un-biased opinion). His passing accuracy and touch are better than any QB SLC has ever had. The stats support that view. As a fan, it's nice to see the SLC stars in proper alignment now that the chase for the ring has begun.

[implacable44]

The bottom line regarding the QB situation at SLC is that Greg McElroy is playing lights out now that the games actually count for something. Riley is correctly relegated to the back-up. McElroy's current level of play makes him arguably the premier HS QB in Texas (in my un-biased opinion). His passing accuracy and touch are better than any QB SLC has ever had. The stats support that view. As a fan, it's nice to see the SLC stars in proper alignment now that the chase for the ring has begun.


I would have to agree with your assessment SLCDAD. I had my doubts about Mcelroy from 7 on 7 and from conversations with people but he has an arm and he is very accurate. It will be interesting to see how he does on the college level -- too bad he didn't sign with BYU where he can continue to throw Mckay the ball - and if Snider (sp) ends up at the U ( better than the Y by the way) it will be good to see Mckay and him playing football in Utah.

[spad1]

Agree fully with LC and Blitz. What was said needed to be said. Contrary to the “ultimate insider” they like me see many of the SLC games in person and the remainder on tape. In addition, their backgrounds most certainly qualify them to access QB’s. They most likely see more of them in a season than most folks see in a lifetime. And, not like the majority of pathetic “jock sniffers” that hang around practice fields, they have been there and done it. For the record, McElroy is a multi-year product of the Bob Johnson QB coaching combo. It is recognized as the best prep QB combo in the U.S. Concur that McElroy would have been relegated to the trash bin if he hadn’t had that opportunity. Latter is no knock on the SLC coaches or system that we’ve watched closely for several years and respect, but the facts. In addition, too much static from too many SLC folks and analysts for there not to be something pathetically amiss regarding the QB thing at SLC. SLC is highly respected, but that facet is a standing joke in the coaching/scout community. As regards the SLC “System” and QB success….tripe! Watched another team with “the system” get dismantled by SLC last Sat. If a school has a coach with the ability to implement the “system” and players intelligent enough to operate it, press on. Till then suggest detractors get educated. Best of luck to the best Dragon team and QB that in our opinion they have fielded!

[dragonsdaddy]

i guess "facts" in a know it all are what some call opinions. you and yours sound like recruiters who in my opinion are almost as sharp as used car salesmen, and equally honest. having dealt with them on several occasions, i have learned to recognize their fabrications by the motion of their lips. that having been said, there is undoubtedly a greater than zero chance that some of the statements hold up under scrutiny. much as i love dodge and everything he has done here, he is in fact a dad. as long as his agenda puts the best team on the field and continues to be successful, he will be treated with the respect and admiration here and elsewhere he deserves. i'd love to see all these 5-5 wanna-be assts who would turn down the offer to do what he has done.

[dragonsdaddy]

i've got to apologize to car salesmen, who are required to do much more than stretch a tape measure, work a set of bathroom scales and a stop watch, and be able to recognize ethnicities, to judge their wares.

[Lamont Cranston]

Guys ignore this nerd like majority do. He continues to be a standing joke in his community as well as here. His snotty, self serving vanilla pronouncements lack substance. A never been there, he continues to regurgitate trivia, and displays absolutely no technical knowledge. Maybe that's why sonny is at P.U. For example, recent sappy post re: reasons for SLC “Carousel”…ridiculous. Big buckle, short horn, another very little man hiding (not) behind the anonymity of the net. Regarding familiarity with SLC team/system/him, we are closer to all than he knows. And, have forgotten more about the sport, above the highschool level, than he’ll ever know. Not only not in the loop, but ignorant of loop existance. He even presents disorganized blather on wrong treads. Too much Kool-Aid? This Kool-Aid Kid majors in being out of context. Clueless McElroy QB’d the ‘03 Scout Team, with a full season of contact. Mac was paying his dues, not wandering around the sidelines in trail with a clipboard. Full contact w/starting QB is highly questionable, which begs the question why it was done in the first place. Of interest was why was it stopped when it was. Patently obvious. Additionally, recently watched a private school QB that we believe could have started at majority of 5A metroplex teams. Well developed all-sports athlete, he is poised, has nice form, is fast and has a strong/accurate arm. Can see over the line and isn’t afraid to step into the pocket and deliver. A team guy, not a social pariah, he would have been a more appropriate and more effective backup for McElroy. Coach quote: “ he was encouraged to leave SLC”. We all know why. Regarding next year: how do you spell Achilles Heel? Well off the board …till after playoffs. Made my points. Despise seeing a great kid and exceptional athlete screwed over. And, no time for trajectory contests with polecats. Spad(e), know you’re on the road, if you’re on see you at the “biggie” Sat., assuming you can still break away from that disgraceful medical practice. Yuk, Yuk! Gang will all be there just like old times. Best wishes to the classy SLC Pep Squad, Band, fans, and best ever Dragon team, as they proceed to ‘05 Championship. Go Dragons!

[Octoberfest]

I guess this thread truly points out that no one can please everyone. I know some QB's that would trade in thier stats, and pretty much everything else except thier D1 offer to be playing at Texas Stadium on Saturday. Truly incredible comments.

[football fanatic]

I agree Oktoberfest.....

My guess is that everyone in Southlake understands the Riley dynamic. Coach Dodge is a great coach, but he is also a Dad of a kid on the sidelines...he has waited for years for this opportunity and he is going to make the most of it.....

In my opinion, the only place that Dodge's kid playing has hurt McElroy is in the stat department......he has had a marvelous year and based on a lot of the comments on these boards early, has exceeded all expectations, especially in an environment of unbelievable pressure of having to follow two TPOY's and having a coaches son lurking.....from all indication he has handled it all with grace and class....all from a kid who is only 17 (my guess).

And after he plays his last hs game (hopefully the state championship game) , he will have the opportunity to play QB for a major d-1 school.....which is a dream for any kid......

We should wish this kid the best of luck and stop all the other bs.....he seems to be doing just fine.....

[southlake thug]

LC- I am well aware of the private school QB that you were talking about, and he is in no way better then Riley Dodge. Trust Me. He may be "all-around sports athlete" but he in no way would have helped the dragons this year, or any of the past years. If he truly was asked to leave, he should be thanking Dodge. And there is no way in hell that he could start at most metroplex high schools.

I respect your opinions and anylsis on some topics, but you have honestly got to be kidding about this one.

[gwdaddy]

Guys ignore this nerd like majority do. He continues to be a standing joke in his community as well as here. His snotty, self serving vanilla pronouncements lack substance. A never been there, he continues to regurgitate trivia, and displays absolutely no technical knowledge. Maybe that's why sonny is at P.U. For example, recent sappy post re: reasons for SLC “Carousel”…ridiculous. Big buckle, short horn, another very little man hiding (not) behind the anonymity of the net. Regarding familiarity with SLC team/system/him, we are closer to all than he knows. And, have forgotten more about the sport, above the highschool level, than he’ll ever know. Not only not in the loop, but ignorant of loop existance. He even presents disorganized blather on wrong treads. Too much Kool-Aid? This Kool-Aid Kid majors in being out of context. Clueless McElroy QB’d the ‘03 Scout Team, with a full season of contact. Mac was paying his dues, not wandering around the sidelines in trail with a clipboard. Full contact w/starting QB is highly questionable, which begs the question why it was done in the first place. Of interest was why was it stopped when it was. Patently obvious. Additionally, recently watched a private school QB that we believe could have started at majority of 5A metroplex teams. Well developed all-sports athlete, he is poised, has nice form, is fast and has a strong/accurate arm. Can see over the line and isn’t afraid to step into the pocket and deliver. A team guy, not a social pariah, he would have been a more appropriate and more effective backup for McElroy. Coach quote: “ he was encouraged to leave SLC”. We all know why. Regarding next year: how do you spell Achilles Heel? Well off the board …till after playoffs. Made my points. Despise seeing a great kid and exceptional athlete screwed over. And, no time for trajectory contests with polecats. Spad(e), know you’re on the road, if you’re on see you at the “biggie” Sat., assuming you can still break away from that disgraceful medical practice. Yuk, Yuk! Gang will all be there just like old times. Best wishes to the classy SLC Pep Squad, Band, fans, and best ever Dragon team, as they proceed to ‘05 Championship. Go Dragons!

Dear Lamont Cranston:

You are way off base about ddaddy. He is highly respected in our community, and possesses first-hand knowledge of football matters beyond the high school level.

You, on the other hand, I don't know from Lamont Sanford!

As for the private school QB formerly of Carroll, I remember a little from watching every one of the 2003 Carroll JV Green Team's games. Jordan was at times more effective than Greg on that team, due to superior running quickness. His passing was perhaps not equal to Greg's at that time. In fact, Zane seemed to do more at QB for that team than either Greg or Jordan, but of course he would have had no chance to play as a senior last year with Chase at QB. I think the same would have been true for Jordan this year--it only makes since to give reps to a backup QB who will one day be your starter, rather than to one who will graduate in the same year as the present starter. That's just common sense, whether the backup is a coach's son or not.

[southlake thug]

Yeah Sophmore Year Jordan and Greg split time on JV Green/Black. At the time Jordan may have been the better QB. But Coach Dodge is a smart guy, and he noticed McElroy's potential, and the little upside that Jordan possesed. He made a gutsy call, and fortunantly it turned out good. Jordan is a damn good athlete though, he could probably letter in all sports at Carroll. But he would not be able to beet out McElroy.

[dragons08]

jordan..whats his last name?

[drgnbkr]

Guys ignore this nerd like majority do. He continues to be a standing joke in his community as well as here. His snotty, self serving vanilla pronouncements lack substance. A never been there, he continues to regurgitate trivia, and displays absolutely no technical knowledge. Maybe that's why sonny is at P.U. For example, recent sappy post re: reasons for SLC “Carousel”…ridiculous. Big buckle, short horn, another very little man hiding (not) behind the anonymity of the net. Regarding familiarity with SLC team/system/him, we are closer to all than he knows. And, have forgotten more about the sport, above the highschool level, than he’ll ever know. Not only not in the loop, but ignorant of loop existance. He even presents disorganized blather on wrong treads. Too much Kool-Aid? This Kool-Aid Kid majors in being out of context. Clueless McElroy QB’d the ‘03 Scout Team, with a full season of contact. Mac was paying his dues, not wandering around the sidelines in trail with a clipboard. Full contact w/starting QB is highly questionable, which begs the question why it was done in the first place. Of interest was why was it stopped when it was. Patently obvious. Additionally, recently watched a private school QB that we believe could have started at majority of 5A metroplex teams. Well developed all-sports athlete, he is poised, has nice form, is fast and has a strong/accurate arm. Can see over the line and isn’t afraid to step into the pocket and deliver. A team guy, not a social pariah, he would have been a more appropriate and more effective backup for McElroy. Coach quote: “ he was encouraged to leave SLC”. We all know why. Regarding next year: how do you spell Achilles Heel? Well off the board …till after playoffs. Made my points. Despise seeing a great kid and exceptional athlete screwed over. And, no time for trajectory contests with polecats. Spad(e), know you’re on the road, if you’re on see you at the “biggie” Sat., assuming you can still break away from that disgraceful medical practice. Yuk, Yuk! Gang will all be there just like old times. Best wishes to the classy SLC Pep Squad, Band, fans, and best ever Dragon team, as they proceed to ‘05 Championship. Go Dragons!

LC, I don't know you, but I know a little knowledge can be dangerous..you are off base on most of your points but most of all on Ddaddy...You gave us a little glimpse behind your curtain there wizard..keep tweaking those knobs & punchin those buttons..