SLC and its horrible fans [Archive] - 5A Texas Football Forum

zippy

11-13-2005, 07:37 PM

Got you :D Point of this post is that all I have seen is stuff about SLC, and people bitc*** about SLC fans. They are talking negative about everything they do. All I have to say about this is that ANY, and I repeat ANY place that is set up like SLC would seem to come off the same way. When you have one HS in the area, and only two Jr. highs (but both are the Dragons) this is the way it works out. Example. How many SA teams are there in a 5 mile area? The fan base is split between them all. SLC is a 5A school with a 1A atmosphere. All they have are the SLC dragons, so lay off them a bit. If they are from SLC they are going to support their team. So far that team is bringing it, so they have a right in a sense. You could take 30,000 fans from an area in SA, and they might support 5 different HS 5A teams. You can take 30K from SLC and they are all going to support SLC. Lets stop complaining about SLC charging parking fees, how much money they have, and how arrogante they are. These are just stupid compaints. This small town atmoshere is the #1 reason for what SLC has done, and I wish all schools were like this.

ktCarl

11-13-2005, 07:43 PM

How much did SLCDAD and drgnbkr pay you to post this thread? ;)

mad_fan

11-13-2005, 07:44 PM

If you ignore their posts they're not annoying at all. :D

zippy

11-13-2005, 07:51 PM

Lol, nothing at all. I was just sick of seeing people gripe about this stuff. There is more to discuss than these issues.

How much did SLCDAD and drgnbkr pay you to post this thread? ;)

drgnbkr

11-13-2005, 07:52 PM

zippy

11-13-2005, 07:52 PM

drgnbkr

11-13-2005, 07:54 PM

mad_fan

11-13-2005, 07:54 PM

ktCarl

11-13-2005, 07:59 PM

I'm really wantin to see where he heard that the Carroll fans are whatever..talk to Lufkin, Katy, Abilene, SV..whoever & you will find us to be fans who love a good game...what the .....are you talking about? Oh well..just stirring up crap...as mad fan said..if we ignore you you'll go away..

WHOA boy! I wouldn't be bothered with what other people say about me as a fan especially when they don't know me. I mostly find it amusing. You guys have a great team. Enjoy it and let the others just be jealous.

zippy

11-13-2005, 08:03 PM

confuse me with a few facts???

I guess the truth hurts..and heaven forbid if we confuse you with a few facts... :D

dragonfootballfan

11-13-2005, 08:06 PM

I agree that that dragonsfootballfan can be annoying, but what can you expect when someones purpose in life is to annoy people on a HS football message board? Other than that, most are not so bad. I have seen many worse that have not right posing the crap they post, cause their team sucks.
what is your problem? Why am I annoying? It is not my purpose in life to try to annoy people on a message board. I just feel that everyone should be held accountable for what they post and ask that they back it up. Why do you continue to call me out like this? What do you want me to do when someone says something that is not true or is not following the rules? Do you want me to just say that it is okay and let them go on doing what they are doing even if they are disrespecting me or the team that I am a fan of? I don't do anything more than other posters and do not ever personally attack someone. I wish I could say the same for many others here on this board.

t00 playa

11-13-2005, 08:06 PM

Lol, nothing at all. I was just sick of seeing people gripe about this stuff. There is more to discuss than these issues.

whats the point of making ppl pay to park anyway? Do you need the money that bad? I guess GPISD doesnt... seems like it would be the opposite. :eek:

zippy

11-13-2005, 08:13 PM

The school uses the money for things they need. I dont have a problem with it no matter how much money the school has. I do agree that they should have somone out there watching over the parking lot if they do charge, like some kind of security. What I do have a problem with is when the venue charges, and the school does not get the money. I think that is wrong.

whats the point of making ppl pay to park anyway? Do you need the money that bad? I guess GPISD doesnt... seems like it would be the opposite. :eek:

zippy

11-13-2005, 08:15 PM

Just having a good time with you D.F.F. I knew you would like that :D . You are my favorite poster by far. Just joking around with you.

what is your problem? Why am I annoying? It is not my purpose in life to try to annoy people on a message board. I just feel that everyone should be held accountable for what they post and ask that they back it up. Why do you continue to call me out like this? What do you want me to do when someone says something that is not true or is not following the rules? Do you want me to just say that it is okay and let them go on doing what they are doing even if they are disrespecting me or the team that I am a fan of? I don't do anything more than other posters and do not ever personally attack someone. I wish I could say the same for many others here on this board.

Primetime536

11-13-2005, 08:16 PM

how many fans did slc bring to their first playoff game this year

SLCDad

11-13-2005, 08:21 PM

whats the point of making ppl pay to park anyway? Do you need the money that bad? I guess GPISD doesnt... seems like it would be the opposite. :eek:1/3 of the school taxes collected in Southlake go to Robin Hood. Not only that, the school district over spent several years ago. As a result, the Carroll ISD was very financially troubled a couple of years ago. They had to cut way back, eliminate some positions and raise revenue any way that they could. They added parking fees as one of the many things they did to balance the budget. FYI, they also raised season ticket prices and charged a $50 per seat license feel. Frankly, I'm surprised people complain so much about paying $3. With the license fee season ticket holders pay over $20 per game per ticket.

Take comfort in the fact that Southlake residents pay almost all of these fees. The attendance of the home folks is about 4 to 1 over the visitors. Also, you may be happy to know that the financial situation at Carroll ISD is much better now compared to a couple of years ago.

zippy

11-13-2005, 08:27 PM

I agree, I would be complaining about paying 20.00 per ticket average. As for the overspending, what was it on?

1/3 of the school taxes collected in Southlake go to Robin Hood. Not only that, the school district over spent several years ago. As a result, the Carroll ISD was very financially troubled a couple of years ago. They had to cut way back, eliminate some positions and raise revenue any way that they could. They added parking fees as one of the many things they did to balance the budget. FYI, they also raised season ticket prices and charged a $50 per seat license feel. Frankly, I'm surprised people complain so much about paying $3. With the license fee season ticket holders pay over $20 per game per ticket.

Take comfort in the fact that Southlake residents pay almost all of these fees. The attendance of the home folks is about 4 to 1 over the visitors. Also, you may be happy to know that the financial situation at Carroll ISD is much better now compared to a couple of years ago.

pshsfan

11-13-2005, 08:33 PM

Robin Hood doesent exist anymore (edit: in the way it did before)

And even if it did, all of the schools around here feel it not just you guys.

by the way the town is south lake not SLC

drgnbkr

11-13-2005, 08:38 PM

Robin Hood doesent exist anymore (edit: in the way it did before)

And even if it did, all of the schools around here feel it not just you guys.

by the way the town is south lake not SLC

Southlake is all one word like Plano..people started seperating South & Lake & we can't get em to stop..its all good....it should be SC, but then Clemens would be trying to ride the wave of our success... :D

SLCDad

11-13-2005, 08:53 PM

I agree, I would be complaining about paying 20.00 per ticket average. As for the overspending, what was it on?The school district leadership had the philosophy that there would always be plenty of money in Southlake. They also believed that Southlake residents wanted the best and would be willing to pay for it. They spent money everywhere and the accountability was poor.

The problem is that Robin Hood attempts to equalize the revenue. Lots of money was taken away from the district and tax rates were already maxed out. Growth also slowed down which slowed the growth of revenue. As a result the reserve fund balance was depleated and the projected revenue was lower than the projected expense budget.

The good news is that the budget problem is now pretty much fixed and things are back to normal.

zippy

11-13-2005, 09:01 PM

I see, so no big purchase that hurt them down the road I guess. Just a mass of many purchases. As much as the Robin Hood seemed to be wrong, on some parts I think it was a good thing. I would not want my kid suffering at a low income school, when others have excess money. I dont have any kids, but that is just the way I think I would feel. At the same time I would not want my hard earned money sent somwhere else. Someone mentioned it in this tread, but didnt they quit doing this as of the year before last? I know there was a legal battle going on about it.

The school district leadership had the philosophy that there would always be plenty of money in Southlake. They also believed that Southlake residents wanted the best and would be willing to pay for it. They spent money everywhere and the accountability was poor.

The problem is that Robin Hood attempts to equalize the revenue. Lots of money was taken away from the district and tax rates were already maxed out. Growth also slowed down which slowed the growth of revenue. As a result the reserve fund balance was depleated and the projected revenue was lower than the projected expense budget.

The good news is that the budget problem is now pretty much fixed and things are back to normal.

t00 playa

11-13-2005, 09:09 PM

1/3 of the school taxes collected in Southlake go to Robin Hood. Not only that, the school district over spent several years ago. As a result, the Carroll ISD was very financially troubled a couple of years ago. They had to cut way back, eliminate some positions and raise revenue any way that they could. They added parking fees as one of the many things they did to balance the budget. FYI, they also raised season ticket prices and charged a $50 per seat license feel. Frankly, I'm surprised people complain so much about paying $3. With the license fee season ticket holders pay over $20 per game per ticket.

Take comfort in the fact that Southlake residents pay almost all of these fees. The attendance of the home folks is about 4 to 1 over the visitors. Also, you may be happy to know that the financial situation at Carroll ISD is much better now compared to a couple of years ago.

i think if they overspent that much.. i think parking fees is just a small drop in the bucket as far as revenue.. i mean.. districts deal in 70-100 million dollar budgets.. i bet parking fees nets you... 60k per year.. at best... employee salaries are the biggest expense.... and i think the statement about the reserve fund balance nearly being depleated.. is pushing it a bit... or else TEA would have been all over southlake .....

t00 playa

11-13-2005, 09:15 PM

I see, so no big purchase that hurt them down the road I guess. Just a mass of many purchases. As much as the Robin Hood seemed to be wrong, on some parts I think it was a good thing. I would not want my kid suffering at a low income school, when others have excess money. I dont have any kids, but that is just the way I think I would feel. At the same time I would not want my hard earned money sent somwhere else. Someone mentioned it in this tread, but didnt they quit doing this as of the year before last? I know there was a legal battle going on about it.

GPISD was helped by robin hood.. and i think the idea behind it was a good one... i mean.. ppl sitting on high property valued estates and industry have a huge advantage over districts like NORTH FOREST here just north of us in GPISD are already near thier max in taxing...and that means nothing when the property values arent worth enough to generate enough dollars to keep thier heads above water.. but hey.. then you have the flipside.. ppl like highland park.. is it right to take money away from them? who knows, i mean..just as in baseball... the brewers in a small small market will always be hard pressed to compete with the yankees .. i mean.. look at payroll.. and school districts are the same.. but robin hood helped a little bit.. but.. maybe theres another way... but then again.. public education is non profit.... so.. does that make robin hood ok? vested interest says no..... equal education says yes.... :eek:

zippy

11-13-2005, 09:24 PM

We also have to consider, Robin Hood was not for sports, it was for education as you point out. That is what comes first no matter what.

GPISD was helped by robin hood.. and i think the idea behind it was a good one... i mean.. ppl sitting on high property valued estates and industry have a huge advantage over districts like NORTH FOREST here just north of us in GPISD are already near thier max in taxing...and that means nothing when the property values arent worth enough to generate enough dollars to keep thier heads above water.. but hey.. then you have the flipside.. ppl like highland park.. is it right to take money away from them? who knows, i mean..just as in baseball... the brewers in a small small market will always be hard pressed to compete with the yankees .. i mean.. look at payroll.. and school districts are the same.. but robin hood helped a little bit.. but.. maybe theres another way... but then again.. public education is non profit.... so.. does that make robin hood ok? vested interest says no..... equal education says yes.... :eek:

BAMF cowboy

11-13-2005, 09:55 PM

We also have to consider, Robin Hood was not for sports, it was for education as you point out. That is what comes first no matter what.

and with that said this is a high school FOOTBALL message board. I feel that this has no place here. So what if we charge 3 dollars for parking, does that help McElroy throw touchdown passes. No. lets keep to topic here, and save all this discussion for the board meetings.

pshsfan

11-13-2005, 10:22 PM

Ah but robin hood does effect sports!

Due to it not running like it did before I only had to pay 50 bucks instead of 125 for being an athlete this year!

WOOOHOOO!

BAMF cowboy

11-13-2005, 10:24 PM

but did saving that 75 bucks make you win more games?

GoRangers

11-13-2005, 10:52 PM

lonny23

11-13-2005, 11:00 PM

If you ignore their posts they're not annoying at all. :D
That works for me! :p

cougardude

11-14-2005, 08:50 AM

Lol, nothing at all. I was just sick of seeing people gripe about this stuff. There is more to discuss than these issues.

And you don't think by posting that thread that it's only going to egg them on even more? :rolleyes:

implacable44

11-14-2005, 08:59 AM

dragonfootballfan

11-14-2005, 10:32 AM

oh it didnt have anything to do with that indoor facility did it ?
It actually wasn't. They built two schools that probably did not need to be built.

DrEdward

11-14-2005, 04:56 PM

Robin Hood doesent exist anymore (edit: in the way it did before)

And even if it did, all of the schools around here feel it not just you guys.

by the way the town is south lake not SLC

At the moment, Robin Hood exists exactly as it did previously. Nothing has changed other than the fact that the burden placed on the contributing districts continues to increase, as the demands for subsidization by other districts contibues. There is also a distinction between the tax base of the Carroll ISD and a district like Plano or GCISD. The former is almost exckusively residential while the latter two have a far greater proportion of their tax base in commercial activities. By the way, the name of the town is Southlake, not South Lake.

t00 playa

11-14-2005, 07:20 PM

Money means a LOT in football, because of the equipment and facilities. Heck, they're building 20million dollar stadiums w/ jumbotrons for HS, now. It's getting out of hand.

Schools with money have a distinct advantage over those who don't.

most of that is done with bond money.. which has nothing to do with tax dollars... just the community voting to raise thier taxes in order to build facilities.... if the community believes in the school district.. they will support... such as GPISD.. with thier brand new stadium... if not for the tax paying votors agreeing to it.. we have no stadium :eek:

mad_fan

11-14-2005, 07:28 PM

most of that is done with bond money.. which has nothing to do with tax dollars... just the community voting to raise thier taxes in order to build facilities.... if the community believes in the school district.. they will support... such as GPISD.. with thier brand new stadium... if not for the tax paying votors agreeing to it.. we have no stadium :eek:

If the school district issues the bonds the school district will pay the principal and the interest with tax dollars.

t00 playa

11-14-2005, 07:37 PM

If the school district issues the bonds the school district will pay the principal and the interest with tax dollars.

but school districts also get a good debt service rate and a lot of the time are even reimbursed a large amount of :eek: that from the state.

dragons08

11-14-2005, 07:38 PM

It actually wasn't. They built two schools that probably did not need to be built.
we need those 2 schools now! hopefully they do expand the highschool, i feel bad for the classes to go through there after me, always a HUGE traffic jam right in the middle, gotta pick your way through it

mad_fan

11-14-2005, 07:43 PM

but school districts also get a good debt service rate and a lot of the time are even reimbursed a large amount of :eek: that from the state.

hogwash! every district in the state would build the nicest possible facilities if the state reimbursed a large amount of the money.

zippy

11-14-2005, 07:49 PM

DragonCrew06. I started the thread, and it will go wherever I want it to go. If I want to go "off topic" I will. I plan to one day be in administration, and what this thread has turned into is of interest to me. (KT, feel free to move this to off topic). Looking back on some of your posts, you also get off topic. Just like everyone of us. Also what we are talking about has something, down the line, to do with HS football. If you dont like what you read, find another thread. Thanks.

and with that said this is a high school FOOTBALL message board. I feel that this has no place here. So what if we charge 3 dollars for parking, does that help McElroy throw touchdown passes. No. lets keep to topic here, and save all this discussion for the board meetings.

zippy

11-14-2005, 07:52 PM

So what come of this? I cant find anything anywhere online.

http://www.thebatt.com/media/paper657/news/2004/01/29/Opinion/robin.Hood.Plan.Needs.Replacement-591089.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com

At the moment, Robin Hood exists exactly as it did previously. Nothing has changed other than the fact that the burden placed on the contributing districts continues to increase, as the demands for subsidization by other districts contibues. There is also a distinction between the tax base of the Carroll ISD and a district like Plano or GCISD. The former is almost exckusively residential while the latter two have a far greater proportion of their tax base in commercial activities. By the way, the name of the town is Southlake, not South Lake.

dragonfootballfan

11-14-2005, 07:57 PM

we need those 2 schools now! hopefully they do expand the highschool, i feel bad for the classes to go through there after me, always a HUGE traffic jam right in the middle, gotta pick your way through it
No it was an elementary and a middle school that were not required

rancher52

11-14-2005, 08:03 PM

The school district leadership had the philosophy that there would always be plenty of money in Southlake. They also believed that Southlake residents wanted the best and would be willing to pay for it. They spent money everywhere and the accountability was poor.

The problem is that Robin Hood attempts to equalize the revenue. Lots of money was taken away from the district and tax rates were already maxed out. Growth also slowed down which slowed the growth of revenue. As a result the reserve fund balance was depleated and the projected revenue was lower than the projected expense budget.

The good news is that the budget problem is now pretty much fixed and things are back to normal.
It may be better but I would not describe it as "fixed". With an 80million budget, 62 of which is for M&O, there is still a 12 or 13 million payment to Robinhood until they "fix that". Hopefully the accountability issue is "fixed". Whatever happened to the 4 million they could not find?? SL still has one of the highest school tax rates anywhere in the area. I think only McKinney exceeds them and Allen is pretty close. Most other districts are 12-15% less. As Doc said the tax base is heavily skewed residential so not a lot of industry and business to lean on. I wonder what abatements have been given to the businesses that are there?

t00 playa

11-14-2005, 08:21 PM

hogwash! every district in the state would build the nicest possible facilities if the state reimbursed a large amount of the money.

look it up... or better yet.. ask someone that does bond issues.... and look up debt service rates... your eyes will be like :eek: once you see how much districts are really held accountable for.

Owls06

11-14-2005, 08:26 PM

Since i would rather ask in the SLC thread, than make a new thread. And since you SLC fans have more experience at Texas Stadium that us Owls.

What are the rules about noisemakers? What are the limitations if there are any?

Obviously, we can't bring in whistles and air horns.. but cowbells? propane tanks? hehe.

Do they charge for parking? Price of tickets?

Thanks.. You Vet TX stadiumers..

zippy

11-14-2005, 08:34 PM

They dont charge for parking, and SV fans brought all kinds of noise makers. I dont know if they were legal or not, but those people at the gate had so see them. There was a truck full of them with some SV people handing out some wood block type noise makers. I also saw some other plastic type noise makers, as well as cowbells.. and SLC has those ballon type things. I would just call the stadium if I were you, then you could be 100% certain, or wait for a SLC response, I have only been there twice.

Since i would rather ask in the SLC thread, than make a new thread. And since you SLC fans have more experience at Texas Stadium that us Owls.

What are the rules about noisemakers? What are the limitations if there are any?

Obviously, we can't bring in whistles and air horns.. but cowbells? propane tanks? hehe.

Do they charge for parking? Price of tickets?

Thanks.. You Vet TX stadiumers..

stallion2owl

11-14-2005, 09:36 PM

dragons08

11-14-2005, 10:08 PM

No it was an elementary and a middle school that were not required
i know dawson and ahhh what ever school is right next to it correct?? but what im saying is there is no way CMS could handle DMS so its not like it was waste at the time yes, but now we need them...

dragons08

11-14-2005, 10:11 PM

The real issue is the fact that SLC fans can afford kickin' computers and post on message boards faster than the rest of us. It's blatantly unfair. The parking fees need to go to the "Underperforming Computer Fund". That's the Robin Hood that would really make a difference!

:p :D :) ;) :o
the comps at our school suck! their like what 97's? 98's? i dont know their the white dells extremly slow..they are begining to phase in new comps though (black dells and laptops for teachers)

zippy

11-14-2005, 10:25 PM

They should keep the old ones, that way nobody will rip them off... It seems to be a problem nowadays.

the comps at our school suck! their like what 97's? 98's? i dont know their the white dells extremly slow..they are begining to phase in new comps though (black dells and laptops for teachers)

dragons08

11-14-2005, 10:33 PM

They should keep the old ones, that way nobody will rip them off... It seems to be a problem nowadays.
rip them off?? explain

dragonfootballfan

11-14-2005, 10:45 PM

i know dawson and ahhh what ever school is right next to it correct?? but what im saying is there is no way CMS could handle DMS so its not like it was waste at the time yes, but now we need them...
Right now there is a school that is not being used and is probably going to be sold or leased to someone. If they reformated the schools it would eliminate the need for the "intermediate" schools and that could have saved a lot of money too. I am not sure why they did not do this, but it was a controversial issue that brought out a lot of people on only one side of the issue.

BAMF cowboy

11-14-2005, 10:45 PM

DragonCrew06. I started the thread, and it will go wherever I want it to go. If I want to go "off topic" I will. I plan to one day be in administration, and what this thread has turned into is of interest to me. (KT, feel free to move this to off topic). Looking back on some of your posts, you also get off topic. Just like everyone of us. Also what we are talking about has something, down the line, to do with HS football. If you dont like what you read, find another thread. Thanks.

I'm glad that you spent so much time on calling me out.

dragons08

11-14-2005, 11:00 PM

Right now there is a school that is not being used and is probably going to be sold or leased to someone. If they reformated the schools it would eliminate the need for the "intermediate" schools and that could have saved a lot of money too. I am not sure why they did not do this, but it was a controversial issue that brought out a lot of people on only one side of the issue.
carroll intermeidate?? arent they turning that into a teacher day care, or at least propsed it with expanding certain buildings and stuff?

dragons08

11-14-2005, 11:01 PM

I'm glad that you spent so much time on calling me out.
he does make a point to some extent, basically its whether you see the glass as half full or half empty

PESHfan

11-16-2005, 01:29 AM

They dont charge for parking, and SV fans brought all kinds of noise makers. I dont know if they were legal or not, but those people at the gate had so see them. There was a truck full of them with some SV people handing out some wood block type noise makers. I also saw some other plastic type noise makers, as well as cowbells.. and SLC has those ballon type things. I would just call the stadium if I were you, then you could be 100% certain, or wait for a SLC response, I have only been there twice.

Zippy, when was the last time you went to Texas Stadium for a playoff game? They most certainly charge $5/car for parking there. We were just there on Friday for the PESH and Plano games. They also charged $5/car for parking last year when we had our playoff game there.

Eat before you go there too, because you'll go broke trying to feed dinner to your family! No outside food is allowed in like at a local high school stadium.

farmerfan

11-16-2005, 01:50 AM

Zippy, when was the last time you went to Texas Stadium for a playoff game? They most certainly charge $5/car for parking there. We were just there on Friday for the PESH and Plano games. They also charged $5/car for parking last year when we had our playoff game there.

Eat before you go there too, because you'll go broke trying to feed dinner to your family! No outside food is allowed in like at a local high school stadium.

it is cheaper to park then buy a freaking soft drink. I actually paid 5.50 for a dr pepper at tx stadium this past weekend, you would think charging a price that high that they had to go down to Dublin to pick it up.

fabdragnfan

11-16-2005, 04:56 PM

Wow...I got tired reading all these posts...ya'll are way off topic! Yes parking is $5/car. Tickets for the noon game at $10 at the gate and $8 ahead of time. Food was outrageous!

About Robinhood...someone posted that bond money had nothing to do with taxes. That couldn't be more incorrect. When the bond package is passed and the new rate approved, it directly affects the amount of taxes a school brings in, thus affecting the budget. Robinhood has gotten a bad wrap. The media only presents one side of it. THere are actually three options a district has when they are considered "property rich." 1) They can sell attendance credits back to teh state. (which is what most districts do) 2) They can do a land swap with a neighboring district or 3) They can trade attendance credits with another district. The recapturing and redistributing of money is not the only way. Most media personnell don't tell the whole story. Disticts decide what to do. And it DOES exist and will continue to to do until the people in Austin figure it out. But, who knows when that will be since they aren't even educators.

dragonsdaddy

11-16-2005, 05:36 PM

all three mean the same thing. revenue is shifted from the haves to the have nots, just like old man lenin suggested long ago.

DrEdward

11-16-2005, 06:05 PM

oh it didnt have anything to do with that indoor facility did it ?

No. It didn't have anything to do with the indoor facility. Could very well be affected by the operating costs of the natatorium, however.

maverick#23

11-16-2005, 07:19 PM

I want to move to Southlake, NOT! ;)

PESHfan

11-16-2005, 09:55 PM

it is cheaper to park then buy a freaking soft drink. I actually paid 5.50 for a dr pepper at tx stadium this past weekend, you would think charging a price that high that they had to go down to Dublin to pick it up.

This is exactly why I prefer to have our playoff games played at a neutral HS stadium rather than TS. It's like going to Disneyworld! Pay through the nose for parking and food. Don't even think about smuggling in one tiny peanut. Security will make you toss it. $7.50 for nachos. Good grief, folks. This is HS football. The other downside of playing at TS, is that it's obviously not set up for a band half-time show. There is not enough room on the side lines for the bands to practice their show. It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to activate your Home Equity Line of Credit just to buy a few cokes, dogs and nachos for the family.

dragons08

11-16-2005, 09:59 PM

I want to move to Southlake, NOT! ;)
you sure? its awesome living in southlake!! i cannot wait till they finish the new additons to town square, wont ever have to leave the bubble of southlake!

dragonfootballfan

11-16-2005, 09:59 PM

This is exactly why I prefer to have our playoff games played at a neutral HS stadium rather than TS. It's like going to Disneyworld! Pay through the nose for parking and food. Don't even think about smuggling in one tiny peanut. Security will make you toss it. $7.50 for nachos. Good grief, folks. This is HS football. The other downside of playing at TS, is that it's obviously not set up for a band half-time show. There is not enough room on the side lines for the bands to practice their show. It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to activate your Home Equity Line of Credit just to buy a few cokes, dogs and nachos for the family.
I like how they search you at Texas stadium for your safety, not to find food. How come when I go to other stadiums I don't have to be frisked for my "safety". I have brought food in before and If I get to go again, which will not be for a long time, I will sneak in the food again.

dragonfootballfan

11-16-2005, 10:00 PM

you sure? its awesome living in southlake!! i cannot wait till they finish the new additons to town square, wont ever have to leave the bubble of southlake!
no they kicked out wal-mart. When wal-mart was in southlake I never ever had to leave

dragons08

11-16-2005, 10:00 PM

This is exactly why I prefer to have our playoff games played at a neutral HS stadium rather than TS. It's like going to Disneyworld! Pay through the nose for parking and food. Don't even think about smuggling in one tiny peanut. Security will make you toss it. $7.50 for nachos. Good grief, folks. This is HS football. The other downside of playing at TS, is that it's obviously not set up for a band half-time show. There is not enough room on the side lines for the bands to practice their show. It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to activate your Home Equity Line of Credit just to buy a few cokes, dogs and nachos for the family.
its not bad for the dragon band, we go up and get ready in the tunnel, no need to warm up really, considering weve been playing since like 30 min before game starts

dragons08

11-16-2005, 10:01 PM

no they kicked out wal-mart. When wal-mart was in southlake I never ever had to leave
ahh hello costco! they kicked out walmart? i thought walmart moved b/c they wanted a new building..

dragons08

11-16-2005, 10:02 PM

I like how they search you at Texas stadium for your safety, not to find food. How come when I go to other stadiums I don't have to be frisked for my "safety". I have brought food in before and If I get to go again, which will not be for a long time, I will sneak in the food again.
i know you told me before but whats your reasoning for missing dragon games??? its like a sin..

dragonfootballfan

11-16-2005, 10:09 PM

ahh hello costco! they kicked out walmart? i thought walmart moved b/c they wanted a new building..
Wal mart left for a few reasons. One was the constant harassment by the city council. They bad mouthed them in the newspaper and passed ordinances that were clearly past just to hurt wal-mart (no coke machines outside. which was repealed after it was found that it would cost the city a lot of money in order for them to comply). They wanted a new location in Southlake, but they knew that it would never pass the P&Z or the city council so they moved where someone wanted their tax dollars (over 1 million dollars in sales tax).

I do like Costco though

dragonfootballfan

11-16-2005, 10:10 PM

i know you told me before but whats your reasoning for missing dragon games??? its like a sin..
I have a lot of other stuff to do on the saturdays. I will be seeing the game after thanksgiving if they make it and hopefully the rest if they go on.

dragons08

11-16-2005, 10:13 PM

I do like Costco though
by far best store.....EVER

DragonNation

11-16-2005, 10:39 PM

zippy and all of Smithson Valley:

Please, please, please beat your reg and Katy. I might actually take a nap during the finals.

dragons08

11-16-2005, 10:42 PM

zippy and all of Smithson Valley:

Please, please, please beat your reg and Katy. I might actually take a nap during the finals.
that just made this thread live true to its title... :mad:

DragonNation

11-16-2005, 10:45 PM

that just made this thread live true to its title... :mad:

Have you actually read some of the trash talking going on with the mullets from Smithson Valley? Those people have no respect so get over it.

dragons08

11-16-2005, 10:49 PM

Have you actually read some of the trash talking going on with the mullets from Smithson Valley? Those people have no respect so get over it.
ive been staying away from those threads because of some crap i heard, lets just not drop down to their level

DragonNation

11-16-2005, 10:50 PM

ive been staying away from those threads because of some crap i heard, lets just not drop down to their level

Agreed

zippy

11-16-2005, 11:50 PM

Last year, state game. At that time, I was not charged for parking. And yes, the food was crazy expensive.

Zippy, when was the last time you went to Texas Stadium for a playoff game? They most certainly charge $5/car for parking there. We were just there on Friday for the PESH and Plano games. They also charged $5/car for parking last year when we had our playoff game there.

Eat before you go there too, because you'll go broke trying to feed dinner to your family! No outside food is allowed in like at a local high school stadium.

dragonfootballfan

11-16-2005, 11:51 PM

Last year, state game. At that time, I was not charged for parking. And yes, the food was crazy expensive.
wow you got really lucky then

zippy

11-16-2005, 11:56 PM

dragonfootballfan

11-16-2005, 11:58 PM

I never pay for parking (have a pass), but I did not see anyone paying as I drove in. The yellow people were just waving them on. It was also about 3 hours before game time, do they start at a certain time?
I am not sure. I have never gotten there that early. I know that I paid and everyone I talked to paid. Either way three hours before game time is not worth the $5 savings

zippy

11-16-2005, 11:59 PM

Where have you guys seen trash talking? I must have missed it. As for the mullet statement, that is the funniest thing ever. This is related to redneck right? White trash, poor, old cars in the yard? Just a little opposite of SV is all. But good try. Try to make it out to the school one day. You might be surprised.

Have you actually read some of the trash talking going on with the mullets from Smithson Valley? Those people have no respect so get over it.

zippy

11-17-2005, 12:00 AM

Lol, I didnt go that early to avoid paying 5.00, and like you said, it would not be worth it.

I am not sure. I have never gotten there that early. I know that I paid and everyone I talked to paid. Either way three hours before game time is not worth the $5 savings

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 12:02 AM

Where have you guys seen trash talking? I must have missed it. As for the mullet statement, that is the funniest thing ever. This is related to redneck right? White trash, poor, old cars in the yard? Just a little opposite of SV is all. But good try. Try to make it out to the school one day. You might be surprised.
I have not seen the trash talk and I have not seen a mullet in the Spring Branch area. I have not been around there much, but from what I have seen you would be hard pressed to find a mullet

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 12:03 AM

Lol, I didnt go that early to avoid paying 5.00, and like you said, it would not be worth it.
I know, you have a pass. I was just trying to tell people that it would be stupid to try and get out there that early to save the five dollars not you.

zippy

11-17-2005, 12:07 AM

zippy

11-17-2005, 12:09 AM

But, at some of these matchups, you might get a good seat out of it as well. I would say 2 hours for that. The stands began to fill up on both sides at about 1.5 hours until gametime.

I know, you have a pass. I was just trying to tell people that it would be stupid to try and get out there that early to save the five dollars not you.

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 12:13 AM

Yep, nap time was expected last year too. Until half time. I can tell you this much, no matter how good SLC is doing this year, if, and if, SV makes it to state, and faces SLC. Good luck to them trying to knock of a Hill lead team 3 times. You will be the first. And to beat them twice, in back to back years.... Not an easy thing to do to a Hill lead coaching staff. That will also be a first. Westlake, Judson & Pflugerville are a few that have tried. Good luck to them.
Carroll has beaten some of the best coaching staffs twice which is incredibly hard to do. I still can't believe that Carroll has beaten Joey Florence and Denton Ryan 3 times in 2 years. I think the only reason that Carroll won this year is because Ryan was overmatched physically. Carroll has beaten John Outlaw's Lufkin team twice in a row and twice in three years. Carroll beat Hill and Smithson Valley twice in three years as well. One of the most difficult things to do in sports is to beat good teams with good coaches on a consistent basis. I do not doubt that Smithson Valley would be prepared as with all other teams that Carroll will play this far in the playoffs. It will be tough and I hope that Carroll can continue the streak

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 12:15 AM

But, at some of these matchups, you might get a good seat out of it as well. I would say 2 hours for that. The stands began to fill up on both sides at about 1.5 hours until gametime.
I think that 75 minutes to game time you can get almost any seat that you want, especially if you disregard people who are saving seats. I have never done that before though. If I get to see a game at Texas Stadium I think I will get there early with a few of my buddies and get a whole bunch of seats and then when everything is full I will hold up a sign that says "my seat for $50" I might get it if I am on the Carroll side.

zippy

11-17-2005, 12:21 AM

He I was watching some clip on SLC the other day on Chevrolet's website. This lady had a sign that said something:

Tickets to game $6.00
Tickets on Ebay $50.00
blah blah blah Priceless... Anyway, were they selling tickets on ebay to a full game last year? I cant see why she would have had the sign if not, also do you know which game it would have been?

I think that 75 minutes to game time you can get almost any seat that you want, especially if you disregard people who are saving seats. I have never done that before though. If I get to see a game at Texas Stadium I think I will get there early with a few of my buddies and get a whole bunch of seats and then when everything is full I will hold up a sign that says "my seat for $50" I might get it if I am on the Carroll side.

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 12:24 AM

He I was watching some clip on SLC the other day on Chevrolet's website. This lady had a sign that said something:

Tickets to game $6.00
Tickets on Ebay $50.00
blah blah blah Priceless... Anyway, were they selling tickets on ebay to a full game last year? I cant see why she would have had the sign if not, also do you know which game it would have been?
The Carroll vs. Denton Ryan was sold out almost immediately. I think that each student was able to purchase one ticket in advance and each football player could only get a few tickets for their family. I think that tickets for reserved seats were on Ebay and got up to about $50 for the game. I could not believe it because I did not sell my seats and watch it on TV. The $100 would have almost paid for the whole season

zippy

11-17-2005, 12:37 AM

I would have sold it for sure! If it were not on TV, and I were a fan of DR or SLC, I might not have, but come on. You even get replays on TV. $100 for two $6 tickets.. Thats a nice return on a win, win investment.

The Carroll vs. Denton Ryan was sold out almost immediately. I think that each student was able to purchase one ticket in advance and each football player could only get a few tickets for their family. I think that tickets for reserved seats were on Ebay and got up to about $50 for the game. I could not believe it because I did not sell my seats and watch it on TV. The $100 would have almost paid for the whole season

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 12:41 AM

I would have sold it for sure! If it were not on TV, and I were a fan of DR or SLC, I might not have, but come on. You even get replays on TV. $100 for two $6 tickets.. Thats a nice return on a win, win investment.
well the season tickets are a lot more expensive it costs about $30 a year for a "license" and then I think $12 per ticket. So it is like $90 for the year for a seat. I am pretty sure though that I knew enough people to get enough seats to go and still sell my reserved seats. I did not know about this until after the game. I probably still wouldn't do it because there is something really grimy about scalping tickets to a high school football game.

zippy

11-17-2005, 12:48 AM

What is worse than selling them is having to pay money like that to buy them. Its getting to be like college games at some of these matchups. Its sad that people cant all go and support their team without having to shop at ebay, but at the same time, I am glad the games sell out. It could be like some of these other states that bring in about 1500 fans to the "big" game of the year.

well the season tickets are a lot more expensive it costs about $30 a year for a "license" and then I think $12 per ticket. So it is like $90 for the year for a seat. I am pretty sure though that I knew enough people to get enough seats to go and still sell my reserved seats. I did not know about this until after the game. I probably still wouldn't do it because there is something really grimy about scalping tickets to a high school football game.

dragonfootballfan

11-17-2005, 01:03 AM

What is worse than selling them is having to pay money like that to buy them. Its getting to be like college games at some of these matchups. Its sad that people cant all go and support their team without having to shop at ebay, but at the same time, I am glad the games sell out. It could be like some of these other states that bring in about 1500 fans to the "big" game of the year.
well their are almost always tickets available for games if you show up about an hour before game time. This game was a special case and I doubt that there will be any hype that large for a non-playoff game like that again

DrEdward

11-17-2005, 01:46 PM

So what come of this? I cant find anything anywhere online.

http://www.thebatt.com/media/paper657/news/2004/01/29/Opinion/robin.Hood.Plan.Needs.Replacement-591089.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.thebatt.com

Zippy,
Nothing has come of the article you posted. Our crisp and decisive legislative friends and representatives ion Austin were able to conclude absolute nohing relative to school finance. It is now at the Texas Supreme Court ehere we have been awaiting a decision for months now. Until such time that a new financing arrangement is put in place, Robin Hood continues as usual with districts such as Carroll, Highland Park, Plano, etc still subsizing the rest of the state.

DrEdward

11-17-2005, 01:49 PM

I want to move to Southlake, NOT! ;)

Okay, your wish is granted. you don't have to move.

DrEdward

11-17-2005, 01:54 PM

I never pay for parking (have a pass), but I did not see anyone paying as I drove in. The yellow people were just waving them on. It was also about 3 hours before game time, do they start at a certain time?

Jerry gives nothing away. He charges a substantial fee for use of the stadium, the concessions are outrageous and he starts charging when the gates open.