75% of Americans are freakin morons...

[mad_fan]

according to the polls...they oppose the 'bailout'...
so they got what they wanted...short term...and helped some dems running for re-election in the House score some point...
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But listening to some of these morons on TV the last couple of days is moving me to their side...
I hope in the end there is no deal...and we have a depression...a few thousand banks close...and there are food and gas lines...
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75%...+1...

[pied]

Main Street does not need to bail out Wall Street.

[okt0ber]

Well, it would get that debt collector off your back.

Do you remember on the original NES (and other) system the "Reset" button? You had to use it when the game froze or something?

Well, that's what America needs. Which is why I'm glad it failed.

[mad_fan]

Main Street does not need to bail out Wall Street.

I said...I've come around...I'm on your side now...:notworthy

[mad_fan]

Well, it would get that debt collector off your back.

Do you remember on the original NES (and other) system the "Reset" button? You had to use it when the game froze or something?

Well, that's what America needs. Which is why I'm glad it failed.

Actually...I figure I'll go to the Credit Union...transfer $40,000...and pay off my ONE DEBT...my mortgage...
Beyond that...I'll quit working...and have time to wait in line...

[SLC93]

Main Street does not need to bail out Wall Street.

Simple and to the point. The bottom like here is that most Americans are sick of the all the ********. These are all highly educated, elite level businesses that ran themselves so far into the ground they cannot get out. Too bad for them. Pick up the pieces like the rest of us have and go work harder, smarter to succeed. Sell off all those billions of dollars worth of assets and start the f@#! over. The general attitude is only compounded by the fact that the entity coming to these business idiots rescue is yet another one we're all about fed up with, the government. You can say I told you so one the bread line. I'll just smack you in the mouth and take your bread. At some point a cleansing has to happen. If it's not savings and loans scandals, it's corporate scandals. We all know insurance is the only form of organized crime that never gets a RICO charge. Nobody has yet to tell me why a prescription that costs 56 cents to manufacture costs me 90 dollars. The IRS can legally penalize you at an interest rate that is illegal for all creditors to. A politician can accept a million dollar contribution, look us in the eye and say it will not influence his of her's focus, direction or effectiveness........................... and now this crap. See where I'm going with all this. The average person is just done with all the greed and corruption that has had this country is a stagnant state for too long.

[pied]

Well, it would get that debt collector off your back.

Do you remember on the original NES (and other) system the "Reset" button? You had to use it when the game froze or something?

Well, that's what America needs. Which is why I'm glad it failed.

Well unless it's hidden somewhere, I don't think we have one of those.

What's your idea?

[SLC93]

Actually...I figure I'll go to the Credit Union...transfer $40,000...and pay off my ONE DEBT...my mortgage...
Beyond that...I'll quit working...and have time to wait in line...

:laugh:laugh:laugh

[mad_fan]

Simple and to the point. The bottom like here is that most Americans are sick of the all the ********. These are all highly educated, elite level businesses that ran themselves so far into the ground they cannot get out. Too bad for them. Pick up the pieces like the rest of us have and go work harder, smarter to succeed. Sell off all those billions of dollars worth of assets and start the f@#! over. The general attitude is only compounded by the fact that the entity coming to these business idiots rescue is yet another one we're all about fed up with, the government. You can say I told you so one the bread line. I'll just smack you in the mouth and take your bread. At some point a cleansing has to happen. If it's not savings and loans scandals, it's corporate scandals. We all know insurance is the only form of organized crime that never gets a RICO charge. Nobody has yet to tell me why a prescription that costs 56 cents to manufacture costs me 90 dollars. The IRS can legally penalize you at an interest rate that is illegal for all creditors to. A politician can accept a million dollar contribution, look us in the eye and say it will not influence his of her's focus, direction or effectiveness........................... and now this crap. See where I'm going with all this. The average person is just done with all the greed and corruption that has had this country is a stagnant state for too long.

Lehmann Bros never originated a mortgage loan...your local banker did that...and who's still in business???
That's why I've decided we need a depression...
And the related bank failures...

[mad_fan]

Simple and to the point. The bottom like here is that most Americans are sick of the all the ********. These are all highly educated, elite level businesses that ran themselves so far into the ground they cannot get out. Too bad for them. Pick up the pieces like the rest of us have and go work harder, smarter to succeed. Sell off all those billions of dollars worth of assets and start the f@#! over. The general attitude is only compounded by the fact that the entity coming to these business idiots rescue is yet another one we're all about fed up with, the government. You can say I told you so one the bread line. I'll just smack you in the mouth and take your bread. At some point a cleansing has to happen. If it's not savings and loans scandals, it's corporate scandals. We all know insurance is the only form of organized crime that never gets a RICO charge. Nobody has yet to tell me why a prescription that costs 56 cents to manufacture costs me 90 dollars. The IRS can legally penalize you at an interest rate that is illegal for all creditors to. A politician can accept a million dollar contribution, look us in the eye and say it will not influence his of her's focus, direction or effectiveness........................... and now this crap. See where I'm going with all this. The average person is just done with all the greed and corruption that has had this country is a stagnant state for too long.

That wrong...the last overhaul of the IRS limited their spread...what they pay on overpayment vs what they charge to 1%...

[lonny23]

We don't need to bail out Wall Street. Maybe they'll do a better job of loaning money. Maybe more people will stay in their current homes instead of moving to another home. We don't need to build 200 million homes when we only need 100 million. You have to build homes over time to replace old homes, but mostly we throw away homes like we throw away cars and trucks.

[pied]

Simple and to the point. The bottom like here is that most Americans are sick of the all the ********. These are all highly educated, elite level businesses that ran themselves so far into the ground they cannot get out. Too bad for them. Pick up the pieces like the rest of us have and go work harder, smarter to succeed. Sell off all those billions of dollars worth of assets and start the f@#! over. The general attitude is only compounded by the fact that the entity coming to these business idiots rescue is yet another one we're all about fed up with, the government. You can say I told you so one the bread line. I'll just smack you in the mouth and take your bread. At some point a cleansing has to happen. If it's not savings and loans scandals, it's corporate scandals. We all know insurance is the only form of organized crime that never gets a RICO charge. Nobody has yet to tell me why a prescription that costs 56 cents to manufacture costs me 90 dollars. The IRS can legally penalize you at an interest rate that is illegal for all creditors to. A politician can accept a million dollar contribution, look us in the eye and say it will not influence his of her's focus, direction or effectiveness........................... and now this crap. See where I'm going with all this. The average person is just done with all the greed and corruption that has had this country is a stagnant state for too long.

Because it cost them $10M to develop the pill and then a ton to do the testing and then have it pass the FDA regulations. Then they need to make up money when they spent $10M to come up w/a pill to cure diabetes but came up with a drug that turns you ****** into a banana.

[pied]

Lehmann Bros never originated a mortgage loan...your local banker did that...and who's still in business???
That's why I've decided we need a depression...
And the related bank failures...

Small banks are calling in $$ from small businesses every where.

HELOCs are now being closed, not because of non-payment but because of lower values.

If the credit system freezes up, some may be changing their tunes.

[Favpack]

I'd mail you my IRA - but the stamp is worth more. :(

[mad_fan]

We don't need to bail out Wall Street. Maybe they'll do a better job of loaning money. Maybe more people will stay in their current homes instead of moving to another home. We don't need to build 200 million homes when we only need 100 million. You have to build homes over time to replace old homes, but mostly we throw away homes like we throw away cars and trucks.

Well...at least you understand what going on...:rolleyes:

[SLC93]

That wrong...the last overhaul of the IRS limited their spread...what they pay on overpayment vs what they charge to 1%...

As someone making payments on an error they found this year from four years ago, you're mistaken. Take a hard look at the money owed and then work the percentage for what the penalties/late fees are in relation to the principle. It's financial raape. Oh well, just more money going to an entity so inept their overdrawn by a few trillion. I'm sure they'll do better with my money this time.

[SLC93]

We don't need to bail out Wall Street. Maybe they'll do a better job of loaning money. Maybe more people will stay in their current homes instead of moving to another home. We don't need to build 200 million homes when we only need 100 million. You have to build homes over time to replace old homes, but mostly we throw away homes like we throw away cars and trucks.

We're a throw away society. Why limit it to homes and vehicles?

[SLC93]

Because it cost them $10M to develop the pill and then a ton to do the testing and then have it pass the FDA regulations. Then they need to make up money when they spent $10M to come up w/a pill to cure diabetes but came up with a drug that turns you ****** into a banana.

So after they make their money back 100x over in the first year, then what is their excuse? They've more that got theirs. Why do I have to stand in line at the local pharmacy to fork over 150 to 200 times the money the freaking stuff cost, all the while having a banana in my pants?!?!:D

[mad_fan]

Small banks are calling in $$ from small businesses every where.

HELOCs are now being closed, not because of non-payment but because of lower values.

If the credit system freezes up, some may be changing their tunes.

IF??? Where you been??? BANKS won't loan to BANKS...they sure ain't going to be loaning to PEOPLE or BUSINESSES...

[SLC93]

For the record, great thread Mad!:D

[mad_fan]

As someone making payments on an error they found this year from four years ago, you're mistaken. Take a hard look at the money owed and then work the percentage for what the penalties/late fees are in relation to the principle. It's financial raape. Oh well, just more money going to an entity so inept their overdrawn by a few trillion. I'm sure they'll do better with my money this time.

You said INTEREST...
PENALTIES keep you from doing it again...;)
Error...umm...Are you a Wall Streeter???;)

[mad_fan]

I'd mail you my IRA - but the stamp is worth more. :(

I'm going by dada's to guard his matress...pm me you address...I'll pick up...:D

[mad_fan]

For the record, great thread Mad!:D

I don't have to take that...from a 75%er...;)

[pied]

IF??? Where you been??? BANKS won't loan to BANKS...they sure ain't going to be loaning to PEOPLE or BUSINESSES...

At work. I have seen several loans booked today. Not forzen yet, but awfully chilly.

[mad_fan]

At work. I have seen several loans booked today. Not forzen yet, but awfully chilly.

I need a loan!!! Where can I find you??? :D

[mad_fan]

At work. I have seen several loans booked today. Not forzen yet, but awfully chilly.

So have you seen a lot of people cleaning out accounts in excess of $100,000???

[pied]

So have you seen a lot of people cleaning out accounts in excess of $100,000???

Don't work at a bank.

[mad_fan]

Don't work at a bank.

So you work at a place that originates loans??? A corner Cash Store??? Can I borrow more than $100.00???

[mad_fan]

Don't work at a bank.

Freddie Mac???:eek:

[stevefoxsc]

considering Europe is passing us bit by bit, i'd 75% is a understatement.

[mad_fan]

considering Europe is passing us bit by bit, i'd 75% is a understatement.

Most of Europe has been bailed out...Germany is a notable exception...that's why they are socialists...
We'll have none of that here...

[stevefoxsc]

Most of Europe has been bailed out...Germany is a notable exception...that's why they are socialists...
We'll have none of that here...

living standards and education over yonder is going up bit by bit, unless this country gets in gear quick wont matter if Europe is a dictatorship they'll have higher quality of living.

[mad_fan]

living standards and education over yonder is going up bit by bit, unless this country gets in gear quick wont matter if Europe is a dictatorship they'll have higher quality of living.

So are you a 75%er??? Or what???

I know you think Europe is catching up...and Canada sucks...but beyond THEM...what should WE do??? BAIL or NO BAIL???

[stevefoxsc]

So are you a 75%er??? Or what???

I know you think Europe is catching up...and Canada sucks...but beyond THEM...what should WE do??? BAIL or NO BAIL???

75%er everyone is one of them to someone or another. As far as the bail out goes i dont feel tax payers should be paying for the screw ups of others. Personally i'd like to know all the options, regardless though plus and negatives.

[mad_fan]

75%er everyone is one of them to someone or another. As far as the bail out goes i dont feel tax payers should be paying for the screw ups of others. Personally i'd like to know all the options, regardless though plus and negatives.

Well...I'd focus on America...and not worry to much about Europe...

[stevefoxsc]

Well...I'd focus on America...and not worry to much about Europe...

lol we are a nation of zombies who care more about who won the big game whose the next wwe champion when is madden 2010 coming out. Whats the new tom cruise movie and other material things. Vs issue of importance that affect everyday lives.

[okt0ber]

Well unless it's hidden somewhere, I don't think we have one of those.

What's your idea?

No, the reset is the failure of banks, everyone loses their deposits and has their debt erased, and then it all starts over.

Total liquid asset reset. You can keep your tangibles.

Of course, this will never ever happen voluntarily.

[mad_fan]

lol we are a nation of zombies who care more about who won the big game whose the next wwe champion when is madden 2010 coming out. Whats the new tom cruise movie and other material things. Vs issue of importance that affect everyday lives.

I knew all that...mostly from your posts...;)

[mad_fan]

No, the reset is the failure of banks, everyone loses their deposits and has their debt erased, and then it all starts over.

Total liquid asset reset. You can keep your tangibles.

Of course, this will never ever happen voluntarily.

Deposits are insured to $100,000...debts go to another bank...
It'll be a warn reboot...
And if our wise Congressmen vote no again...as the polls tell them to do...that sounds voluntary to me...

[okt0ber]

Deposits are insured to $100,000...debts go to another bank...
It'll be a warn reboot...
And if our wise Congressmen vote no again...as the polls tell them to do...that sounds voluntary to me...

No no. Deposits go away. Debts go away. That's my proposal. Everyone gets 1 month revenue to start over. Make it work.

[mad_fan]

No no. Deposits go away. Debts go away. That's my proposal. Everyone gets 1 month revenue to start over. Make it work.

Okay...but I have to go 'shopping' first...;)

[okt0ber]

Okay...but I have to go 'shopping' first...;)

It's going to be unexpected and without warning.

[Slim-Rob]

http://bp2.blogger.com/_i_CQWU5mwR4/SEg-EW8fljI/AAAAAAAAAao/1ft-wpAl7tM/s400/moran.jpg

[ktCarl]

http://bp2.blogger.com/_i_CQWU5mwR4/SEg-EW8fljI/AAAAAAAAAao/1ft-wpAl7tM/s400/moran.jpg


Who is Morans?

[Slim-Rob]

Who is Morans?

That's the point Carl...he misspelled morons...

lmao...

[okt0ber]

Who is Morans?

OY!

[pied]

No no. Deposits go away. Debts go away. That's my proposal. Everyone gets 1 month revenue to start over. Make it work.

Beyond Thunderdome

[BDB]

No no. Deposits go away. Debts go away. That's my proposal. Everyone gets 1 month revenue to start over. Make it work.

the first rule of 5atxfb.com is, you dont talk about 5atxfb.com.

the second rule of 5atxfb.com is, YOU DONT TALK ABOUT 5ATXFB.COM!

it sounds nice and all, but id rather take a wager that we fall even more into a society of rigid classes and the rich *cough*white*cough* get richer.

*cough*not all white people, only the ones that run this country*cough*

[stevefoxsc]

I knew all that...mostly from your posts...;)

and i guess rambling the same trivial points in political threads voids you out.

[SLC93]

I don't have to take that...from a 75%er...;)

Not only do you but you have! Gees, the arrogance of the 25'ers!:D

[mad_fan]

Not only do you but you have! Gees, the arrogance of the 25'ers!:D

Yeah...No way they'll be bailed out...
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by Friday...:rolleyes:

[ktCarl]

Yeah...No way they'll be bailed out...
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by Friday...:rolleyes:


Since I'm considered by mad_fan as one of the 75% and a 'morans' I feel like I must be moving up in the world. :)

[SLC93]

Since I'm considered by mad_fan as one of the 75% and a 'morans' I feel like I must be moving up in the world. :)

Can half a moran be in the 75 or would be need to be in the ..............(divide by 2, carry the 3, I before E) 42'ers? I'd lub to joene.:eek::laugh

[tayb]

The majority has spoken.

[pied]

The majority has spoken.

I think that was the intent of the original post.

[mad_fan]

Since I'm considered by mad_fan as one of the 75% and a 'morans' I feel like I must be moving up in the world. :)

Well...you wouldn't want to be in a club that would have me as a member...;)

[mad_fan]

I think that was the intent of the original post.

That point was probably missed by about 75% of the people...:D

[DrEdward]

That's the point Carl...he misspelled morons...

lmao...


Maybe he was writing to Lucinda Morans?? :D

[ktCarl]

Well...you wouldn't want to be in a club that would have me as a member...;)

Heh, heh, heh. ;)

[drgnbkr]

Well unless it's hidden somewhere, I don't think we have one of those.

What's your idea?

I have an idea...go to Dave Ramsey's web-site and read his plan...It will not see the light of day with our glorious leaders, but it centers around the repeal of the capital gains tax, which would get huge numbers of dollars off the sidelines. Another component of the plan is to insure the loans, rather than buy them, a much cheaper option that accomplishes the same thing.

[pied]

I have an idea...go to Dave Ramsey's web-site and read his plan...It will not see the light of day with our glorious leaders, but it centers around the repeal of the capital gains tax, which would get huge numbers of dollars off the sidelines. Another component of the plan is to insure the loans, rather than buy them, a much cheaper option that accomplishes the same thing.

Awesome idea.

http://5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=35043

[Owl, Been there Done that]

according to the polls...they oppose the 'bailout'...
so they got what they wanted...short term...and helped some dems running for re-election in the House score some point...
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But listening to some of these morons on TV the last couple of days is moving me to their side...
I hope in the end there is no deal...and we have a depression...a few thousand banks close...and there are food and gas lines...
...
...
...
75%...+1...

The market will fix itself. Paying corrupt Corporations won't fix the market.

[mad_fan]

Lehmann Bros never originated a mortgage loan...your local banker did that...and who's still in business???
That's why I've decided we need a depression...
And the related bank failures...

As I was saying...:rolleyes: