AP Poll - 9/29/08 - 5A - 1A

[AbEagleFan]

Class 5A

School Rec Pts Prv

1. Euless Trinity (19) 4-0 199 1

2. Plano (1) 5-0 164 2

3. Southlake Carroll 3-0 147 4

3. Galena Park North Shore 2-0 147 3

5. Abilene 5-0 115 5

6. Odessa Permian 4-0 100 6

7. Spring Westfield 2-0 69 7

8. The Woodlands 3-0 52 8

8. Allen 4-1 52 9

10. Copperas Cove 4-0 25 -

Others receiving votes: Fort Bend Hightower 8, SA Madison 8, Pearland 6, Garland Naaman Forest 3, Arlington Bowie 2, Odessa 1, Flower Mound 1, Lufkin 1.


Class 4A

School Rec Pts Prv

1. Lake Travis (20) 5-0 200 1

2. Everman 4-0 166 2

3. Dallas Highland Park 4-0 156 3

4. Aledo 4-0 143 4

5. Port Lavaca Calhoun 3-0 99 5

6. Longview 4-1 90 6

7. Sulphur Springs 5-0 68 10

8. Dallas Carter 4-0 65 9

9. Ennis 4-0 39 -

10. Schertz Steele 4-0 22 -

Others receiving votes: Wolfforth Frenship 16, Friendswood 9, Kerrville Tivy 9, Edcouch-Elsa 7, Texarkana 4, Texas City 3, El Campo 1, Kilgore 1, Denison 1, Schertz Clemens 1.

Class 3A

School Rec Pts Prv

1. Liberty Hill (20) 5-0 200 1

2. China Spring 5-0 174 3

3. West Orange-Stark 2-0 148 4

4. Navasota 3-0 137 5

5. Waco La Vega 4-1 98 8

6. Gilmer 4-1 89 10

7. Abilene Wylie 3-2 78 9

8. Cuero 3-1 33 2

9. Burkburnett 5-0 32 -

10. Tyler Chapel Hill 4-0 19 -

Others receiving votes: Devine 15, Sealy 12, Bellville 11, La Vernia 10, Giddings 8, Kennedale 8, Texarkana Pleasant Grove 7, Celina 7, Sweetwater 5, Bridgeport 4, Zapata 3, Cameron Yoe 2.

Class 2A

School Rec Pts Prv

1. Cisco (19) 5-0 198 1

2. Arp 4-0 160 2

3. Hitchcock 2-0 137 3

4. Refugio 4-0 124 4

5. Kirbyville 3-0 115 5

6. Muleshoe (1) 5-0 91 9

7. Altair Rice 4-0 89 7

8. Blanco 5-0 49 -

9. Daingerfield 4-1 27 8

9. Crane 4-1 27 10

Others receiving votes: Corrigan-Camden 18, Pilot Point 13, Grandview 11, Bushland 11, Idalou 9, Clyde 6, Brady 4, Elysian Fields 3, Caddo Mills 2, Alpine 2, Harleton 2, West Rusk 1, Crawford 1.

Class 1A

School Rec Pts Prv

1. Canadian (19) 5-0 199 1

2. Maud (1) 4-0 175 2

3. Roscoe 4-1 131 4

4. Itasca 5-0 126 3

5. Iraan 5-0 110 5

6. Bremond 4-0 77 7

7. Stratford 4-1 74 6

8. Shiner 4-0 58 9

9. Quinlan Boles 4-0 46 10

10. Cayuga 4-1 27 8

Others receiving votes: New Deal 17, Tenaha 11, Mart 11, Joaquin 8, Archer City 8, D'Hanis 8, Albany 6, Menard 6, Quanah 1, Simms Bowie 1.

[drgnbkr]

Carroll and North Shore swapped places, with Carroll taking the 3rd spot..? Weird stuff....I guess because they weren't able to make it up North they are penalized.

[covedawgfan]

Oh oh, Cove's back in the top 10, hate to see that target placed on the Dawgs in their district. But district play is upmost on their minds, not the rankings. Congrats to all the teams rated above.

[Shoot2thrill]

Carroll and North Shore swapped places, with Carroll taking the 3rd spot..? Weird stuff....I guess because they weren't able to make it up North they are penalized.


Actually they look to be tied. :)

[Empire strikes back]

Did Permian move up 1 or moved down 1? I completly forgot! WOW!, Odessa High getting some votes!!!!! :)

[Eagle81]

Eventually someone is going to have to start buying into what Naaman Forrest is doing.

[AbEagleFan]

They stayed at 6... Right behind Abilene.. :p

btw.... we want the bell back!!! :notworthy

Did Permian move up 1 or moved down 1? I completly forgot! WOW!, Odessa High getting some votes!!!!! :)

[ThEgReAtOnE]

It's a joke to see Longview and Friendswood so low. Longview loses their first game to a Top 10 5A team, 21-7 to Allen, then destroys ECA (La), upsets 5A powerhouse Lufkin and wipes #8 4A power Texas High with the floor... yet they sit behind the likes of Calhoun, Aledo and Everman???? Gimme a break!!!! Friendswood starts the season out beating Top 15 4A power Dayton and just beat #7 4A-power Texas City, last Friday. Yet, they are behind Steele and Springs???

[jbusch]

Actually they look to be tied. :) Okay if they're tied why aren't they listed in alphabetical order. I smell a conspiracy:p

[PantherStang84]

Wait a minute. Does Josh Havard (Lufkin Daily News) get a vote? If he does that would account for the one vote Lufkin got.

Right now. Lufkin has no business anywhere the top 25 much less the top 10.

[bigdaddydog]

Okay if they're tied why aren't they listed in alphabetical order. I smell a conspiracy:p

YEAH!! I agree with you on that. Smells like a #2 conspiracy!! :D


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[pack98]

I agree with the Lobos. they will be a hard team to beat but in the end polls dont win games so it does not matter.

[Bootsdaddy]

Wait a minute. Does Josh Havard (Lufkin Daily News) get a vote? If he does that would account for the one vote Lufkin got.

Right now. Lufkin has no business anywhere the top 25 much less the top 10.

Josh doesnt have a vote and if he did he wouldnt make a homer vote. He graduated from Hudson anyway.

[SLC]

Carroll and North Shore swapped places, with Carroll taking the 3rd spot..? Weird stuff....I guess because they weren't able to make it up North they are penalized.


Their tied.....:)

[SLC]

Class 5A

School Rec Pts Prv

1. Euless Trinity (20) 4-0 199 1

2. Plano (0) 5-0 164 2

3. Southlake Carroll 3-0 147 4

3. Galena Park North Shore 2-0 147 3

5. Abilene 5-0 115 5

6. Odessa Permian 4-0 100 6

7. Spring Westfield 2-0 69 7

8. The Woodlands 3-0 52 8

8. Allen 4-1 52 9

10. Garland Naaman Forest 4-0 25 -

Others receiving votes: Copperas Cove 8, Fort Bend Hightower 8, SA Madison 6, Pearland 3, Arlington Bowie 2, Odessa 1, Flower Mound 1, Lufkin 0.

fify.....;)

[hunterbunter]

WOOOOOOOOOOO! go E-E! PURO BLACK AND GOLD!

MUCHA MAQUINAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[DrEdward]

Okay if they're tied why aren't they listed in alphabetical order. I smell a conspiracy:p

They are listed in alphabetical order. The names of the respective high schools are Carroll and North Shore. The names of the political entitites in which they are located are simply for geographic reference and are not part of the official name of either school.

[bigdaddydog]

They are listed in alphabetical order. The names of the respective high schools are Carroll and North Shore. The names of the political entitites in which they are located are simply for geographic reference and are not part of the official name of either school.

I would buy that if they had switched Allen and The Woodlands tied at #8.


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[DrEdward]

I would buy that if they had switched Allen and The Woodlands tied at #8.


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Looks like they dropped the "The."

[Ageless1]

It's a joke to see Longview and Friendswood so low. Longview loses their first game to a Top 10 5A team, 21-7 to Allen, then destroys ECA (La), upsets 5A powerhouse Lufkin and wipes #8 4A power Texas High with the floor... yet they sit behind the likes of Calhoun, Aledo and Everman???? Gimme a break!!!! Friendswood starts the season out beating Top 15 4A power Dayton and just beat #7 4A-power Texas City, last Friday. Yet, they are behind Steele and Springs???

I feel your pain but how do you think Naaman Forest feels right about now??? We get about as much respect as the New Kids On the Block....oh we are the new kids on the block and because we aren't the traditional power it would make sense not to rank us...or would it? Hey I'm just a fan

[RedRage00]

Having Calhoun at 4A #5 is a joke. The AP poll stinks.

[DragonFan0316]

This will all be settled by the week before Christmas. Look for SLC to suprise many and take the 5A Division II crown. No one else wants to admit it but they don't miss Tre and Riley as much as many wish they would. Just my opinion.:cool:

[owlfan 1]

Everyone but the AP voters have noticed Naaman - if the Rangers keep winning, they'll get their respect...

[Ageless1]

Everyone but the AP voters have noticed Naaman - if the Rangers keep winning, they'll get their respect...

Yea but most tend to think of our district as a "soft", "weak" district. So it's always going to be something or some kind of snub when it comes to a 10-5A. I'd like to know who the AP voters are and where they are located. I would be willing to bet most are in rural small areas and tend to vote for teams they recognize as opposed to the teams are actually good. IMO

[AbEagleFan]

I'd like to know who the AP voters are and where they are located.

Here ya go. You could trick or treat their homes.

DALLAS (AP) - The voters in the 2008 Associated Press high school football poll:

Aaron Bracamontes, El Paso Times

David Campbell, Bryan-College Station Eagle

Rick Cantu, Austin American-Statesman

Lorne Chan, San Antonio Express-News

Chad Conine, Waco Tribune-Herald

Les Giles, Amarillo Globe-News

Chris Gove, Odessa American

Eladio Jaimez, Valley Morning Star

Tom Halliburton, Port Arthur News

Phil Hicks, Tyler Morning Telegraph

Sam Khan, Houston Chronicle

Mark Miller, Killeen Daily Herald

Andy Newberry, Wichita Falls Times Record News

Evan Ren, Abilene Reporter-News

Benny Rogers, Athens Daily Review

Damon Sayles, The Dallas Morning News

George Watson, Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

Craig Way, High School Extra

Nathan Wright, San Angelo Standard-Times

Eric Zarate, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

[Ageless1]

Here ya go. You could trick or treat their homes.

DALLAS (AP) - The voters in the 2008 Associated Press high school football poll:

Aaron Bracamontes, El Paso Times

David Campbell, Bryan-College Station Eagle

Rick Cantu, Austin American-Statesman

Lorne Chan, San Antonio Express-News

Chad Conine, Waco Tribune-Herald

Les Giles, Amarillo Globe-News

Chris Gove, Odessa American

Eladio Jaimez, Valley Morning Star

Tom Halliburton, Port Arthur News

Phil Hicks, Tyler Morning Telegraph

Sam Khan, Houston Chronicle

Mark Miller, Killeen Daily Herald

Andy Newberry, Wichita Falls Times Record News

Evan Ren, Abilene Reporter-News

Benny Rogers, Athens Daily Review

Damon Sayles, The Dallas Morning News

George Watson, Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

Craig Way, High School Extra

Nathan Wright, San Angelo Standard-Times

Eric Zarate, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Much like I thought

[owlfan 1]

Yea but most tend to think of our district as a "soft", "weak" district. So it's always going to be something or some kind of snub when it comes to a 10-5A. I'd like to know who the AP voters are and where they are located. I would be willing to bet most are in rural small areas and tend to vote for teams they recognize as opposed to the teams are actually good. IMO


Play in late December and they have no choice but to respect you...

[GameTyme]

Somebody keeps voting for us. Oh well bring on Da Shore

[GameTyme]

It's a joke to see Longview and Friendswood so low. Longview loses their first game to a Top 10 5A team, 21-7 to Allen, then destroys ECA (La), upsets 5A powerhouse Lufkin and wipes #8 4A power Texas High with the floor... yet they sit behind the likes of Calhoun, Aledo and Everman???? Gimme a break!!!! Friendswood starts the season out beating Top 15 4A power Dayton and just beat #7 4A-power Texas City, last Friday. Yet, they are behind Steele and Springs???


Couldnt agree more. I wonder after Longview beats Sulphur Springs by more then 4 TD's will they move up.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Couldnt agree more. I wonder after Longview beats Sulphur Springs by more then 4 TD's will they move up.

LMAO... these "poll'sters" need to get out more!

[Ageless1]

LMAO... these "poll'sters" need to get out more!

try stomaching the rivals star rating...that's even worse

[ThEgReAtOnE]

try stomaching the rivals star rating...that's even worse

I've been hilariously prospecting the Rivals system for years, now. While they blow Scout of the water, they still don't have enough overall knowledge to come close to ranking athletes based on level of competition, thus giving some true insight as to how they truly rank in the eyes of college scouts.

[LoboBooster73]

Couldnt agree more. I wonder after Longview beats Sulphur Springs by more then 4 TD's will they move up.

How many East Texas sports writers did you see above? You know all of the always bias being that most papers report how their writers voted. Don't expect a big change and don't put any stock in it!

[Magellan]

Here ya go. You could trick or treat their homes.

DALLAS (AP) - The voters in the 2008 Associated Press high school football poll:

Aaron Bracamontes, El Paso Times

David Campbell, Bryan-College Station Eagle

Rick Cantu, Austin American-Statesman

Lorne Chan, San Antonio Express-News

Chad Conine, Waco Tribune-Herald

Les Giles, Amarillo Globe-News

Chris Gove, Odessa American

Eladio Jaimez, Valley Morning Star

Tom Halliburton, Port Arthur News

Phil Hicks, Tyler Morning Telegraph

Sam Khan, Houston Chronicle

Mark Miller, Killeen Daily Herald

Andy Newberry, Wichita Falls Times Record News

Evan Ren, Abilene Reporter-News

Benny Rogers, Athens Daily Review

Damon Sayles, The Dallas Morning News

George Watson, Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

Craig Way, High School Extra

Nathan Wright, San Angelo Standard-Times

Eric Zarate, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Considering how high a percentage of the population is in the urban centers (Houston, DFW, Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso), you'd think those areas would have more than just 1 ballot per newspaper. I'm not calling out specific papers, and not saying they don't do a good job of being objective... just saying I'm surprised.

[battlin'bulldawgs]

I've been hilariously prospecting the Rivals system for years, now. While they blow Scout of the water, they still don't have enough overall knowledge to come close to ranking athletes based on level of competition, thus giving some true insight as to how they truly rank in the eyes of college scouts.

Ya, I was thinking the other night when I saw Blake Gideon starting for Texas, wasnt he only a 2 or 3star coming out of HS?

[LoboBooster73]

Ya, I was thinking the other night when I saw Blake Gideon starting for Texas, wasnt he only a 2 or 3star coming out of HS?

Actually, Rivals had him as a no-star which is crazy!

[GameTyme]

Actually, Rivals had him as a no-star which is crazy!


AJ Hawk 2 stars coming out of HS on Rivals. LOL.

[battlin'bulldawgs]

Actually, Rivals had him as a no-star which is crazy!

WoW! Now thats why Rivals and Scout and all of them suck!!!

[jbusch]

How many East Texas sports writers did you see above? You know all of the always bias being that most papers report how their writers voted. Don't expect a big change and don't put any stock in it! ya gotta have newspapers before you have sports writers:D

[GameTyme]

ya gotta have newspapers before you have sports writers:D


Maybe we can send a Wagon to dallas to help us learn.:D

[MOJO94]

They stayed at 6... Right behind Abilene.. :p

btw.... we want the bell back!!! :notworthyLets play for it.:)

[MOJO94]

Did Permian move up 1 or moved down 1? I completly forgot! WOW!, Odessa High getting some votes!!!!! :)
They got one.:D

[c-lisle]

It's a joke to see Longview and Friendswood so low. Longview loses their first game to a Top 10 5A team, 21-7 to Allen, then destroys ECA (La), upsets 5A powerhouse Lufkin and wipes #8 4A power Texas High with the floor... yet they sit behind the likes of Calhoun, Aledo and Everman???? Gimme a break!!!! Friendswood starts the season out beating Top 15 4A power Dayton and just beat #7 4A-power Texas City, last Friday. Yet, they are behind Steele and Springs???

what about Abilene Cooper? I see them as a top contender in reg1/reg2 D1. Correct me if I'm wrong but they played Abilene and Garland very close. They are getting any recognition but they seem very good to me. I hate rankings...but love them at the same time.

[rmwestjr]

I understand that a player must have video for them to be even considered above a three star on rivals.com. So, if a player doesn't have enough video for the raters to review, rivals scale is from 1-3 stars, otherwise it is 1-5 stars. Has anyone else heard that?

[Ageless1]

I understand that a player must have video for them to be even considered above a three star on rivals.com. So, if a player doesn't have enough video for the raters to review, rivals scale is from 1-3 stars, otherwise it is 1-5 stars. Has anyone else heard that?

Here is how it works in my opinion...coupled with what you said if a kid PAYS to attend one of their camps and excels at least gains one extra star(without really seeing what he can do in a actual game)...get offers from major universities then he gets another by this time he has 4 stars for sure and potentially 5 stars...making the rivals guy look good because he just said a kid that got a scholarship offer from 'said' university is now a 5 star. This is factual information from a personal experience. Rivals never knew the kid I'm talking about until he received an offer from a major university. I would say this is true for at least 8 out of 10 of these high ranking kids. If a kid has 20 offers then he will be ranked higher than a kid who commits early and shuts off the whole recruiting process at his own discretion.