View Full Version : Odessa Permian vs Odessa High
fballgirl22
09-27-2008, 08:55 AM
Both go into this game at 4-0. Odessa High is lead by sophomore sensation running back Bradley Marquez(Son of Brad Givens) and jr. QB Derric Teegarden. The Offense has managed to put up some impressive numbers this year and has not been held to under 30 points. Permian is lead by a massive O-line anchored by future Longhorn Garret Porter. Sherrard Ray Sr. Running Back has looked impressive all year and is getting more productive with each game(277 yards in his last outing against Amarillo High). Will this game be a back and forth battle with the game being decided on the last possession or a classic MOJO beatdown? Thoughts?????
mojoguy
09-27-2008, 09:09 AM
I say we start up another streak of wins against the Bronchelitas. They have looked really good this season so far though. I expect the intensity level to be pretty high on Friday night.
Empire strikes back
09-27-2008, 09:15 AM
In my opinion, the game should be a good one, but Permian should win the game. Ratliff Stadium should fill up to about 25,000 fans because how both teams are 4-0. Don't you just love it, the town is divided, the trash talking begins, and pulling pranks on each other. AWWW can't wait!!! :D
mojo61
09-27-2008, 09:44 AM
The lg. crowd will make this game pretty exciting. Odessa Hi has a pretty good team, but I think Per. is better.
Redhoss
09-27-2008, 09:56 AM
Mojo wins. If the Broncs don't make mistakes like they have been, it could be close for awhile. Mojo will wear them down due to lack of depth and the defense will be on the field too long. That's the way it's been this year but other teams didn't have the offense or defense that Permian has right now.
I hope we can give you a good game. Either way, I'm just happy to be 4-0 for a change and the playoffs are actually within reach. I think this young team continues to improve and will surprise some people later in the year. :D
odessapermian.com
09-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Permian by 10+
AE 8008
09-27-2008, 10:24 AM
whens the last time OP vs. OHS couldve been the battle for the bell?
odessapermian.com
09-27-2008, 01:45 PM
whens the last time OP vs. OHS couldve been the battle for the bell?
Near as I can tell it was 1980. As I recall OHS came in at 5-1, Permian 6-0. A Broncho win gave them the district title, a Permian win or tie gave it to MOJO. Final score 14-14. Permian made the playoffs and won State.
Redhoss
09-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Near as I can tell it was 1980. As I recall OHS came in at 5-1, Permian 6-0. A Broncho win gave them the district title, a Permian win or tie gave it to MOJO. Final score 14-14. Permian made the playoffs and won State.
I hate the two division setup we have now but with that said, have any of you ever wondered about how far other LSWC teams may have gone back in the days when we had one district champion? It would have been interesting to see. :D
tmcran
09-27-2008, 05:56 PM
Well, I was very impressed with OHS last year when they played Abilene High. If the OHS QB is on, this could be a very close game and not surprise me to see OHS win. Wish AHS was back in LSWC.
notremojo
09-27-2008, 09:39 PM
OHS meets a defense. and crumbles.
thanks.
Joe Bobs DT
09-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Ok, I have no dog in this fight but I love an under dog. OHS wins by 3 on a last second field goal.
BlackAttack
09-27-2008, 09:43 PM
Prediction. Odessa takes the opening kickoff and gets a return for a score by Brad Marquez. Their side goes nuts. Permian gets the ball and ties the score. That is as close as it will get. Permian 56-14.
Joe Bobs DT
09-27-2008, 09:45 PM
Go Broncs
biggolfdad
09-27-2008, 10:10 PM
Should be a great game in front of the usual great crowd at Ratliff.
:cool:
panthersrwe
09-27-2008, 10:20 PM
I think this game is close only in the first quarter. Yes, the red might hang on for the first twelve minutes, but after that it is Permian Football as usual. Permian wins
56-10
coriv
09-28-2008, 01:01 PM
OHS meets a defense. and crumbles.
thanks.
Permian meets a team with an offense and gets shredded.
Permian meets a team with an offense and gets shredded.
OHS meets a complete team and makes the same mistakes and gets the same results
Permian 46
OHS 20
coriv
09-28-2008, 01:54 PM
OHS meets a complete team and makes the same mistakes and gets the same results
Permian 46
OHS 20
Permian meets a complete team and realizes this ain't 1968, 1978, 1988, or 1998.
OHS 31 - Permian 28
Shoot2thrill
09-28-2008, 02:02 PM
Permian meets a complete team and realizes this ain't 1968, 1978, 1988, or 1998.
OHS 31 - Permian 28
That score is actually about the way I see it. I think this may be the year for OHS to eke out a late victory over Mojo. Good luck to both teams.:cool:
BlackAttack
09-28-2008, 02:05 PM
Permian meets a complete team and realizes this ain't 1968, 1978, 1988, or 1998.
OHS 31 - Permian 28
For a team to be complete it must display a modicum of defense. Odessa Hi has not, to this point in time.
caesarscott
09-28-2008, 02:36 PM
dont really care about this game, but Texas HS Football is better when Permian is having a good year
Empire strikes back
09-28-2008, 03:05 PM
You don't care for this game because your not from Odessa. If you were, you would now that its all about city bragging rights.
mojoguy
09-28-2008, 03:06 PM
Permian meets a complete team and realizes this ain't 1968, 1978, 1988, or 1998.
OHS 31 - Permian 28OHS meets a team that won't let them jump out to a 40 point lead only to hold on to win by 7. They then realize that their time to get their shots in on Permian has passed, and that things are back to the way they are supposed to be in 2008. This leads to various discussions about the Permian side of town conspiring, recruiting, hiring refs, etc etc since 1968.
Mojo 70
Bronchelitas 3
Oh well, maybe next year. :rolleyes:
Plano Wildcat Fan
09-28-2008, 03:19 PM
dont really care about this game, but Texas HS Football is better when Permian is having a good year
and PLANO
AHSeagles
09-28-2008, 04:17 PM
I think Permian wins, but this is a rivalry game and OHS has momentum coming in. I think it will be Permian by a touchdown.
Mojo-35
Odessa-28
coriv
09-28-2008, 07:20 PM
For a team to be complete it must display a modicum of defense. Odessa Hi has not, to this point in time.
Odessa High held EP Montwood to 7 points before the staters were pulled.
They shutout Lubbock High and held them to 97 yards of offense.
They were up 49-20 in going into the 4th quarter against Coronado before they let up.
They were up 42-14 over Tascosa in the 3rd quarter before they let up.
If you want to judge the Bronchos defense by two bad quarters, then be my guest.
coriv
09-28-2008, 07:25 PM
OHS meets a team that won't let them jump out to a 40 point lead only to hold on to win by 7.
That sounds good to me because I expect this game to be competitive the whole way and the Bronchos built leads of 28 vs. Montwood, 30 vs. Lubbock High, 29 vs. Coronado, and 28 vs. Tascosa while the games were competitive.
This leads to various discussions about the Permian side of town conspiring, recruiting, hiring refs, etc etc since 1968.
Right. Just like in 2004 and 2005 when Permian fans favorite letters were A and P.
BlackAttack
09-28-2008, 07:28 PM
Odessa High held EP Montwood to 7 points before the staters were pulled.
They shutout Lubbock High and held them to 97 yards of offense.
They were up 49-20 in going into the 4th quarter against Coronado before they let up.
They were up 42-14 over Tascosa in the 3rd quarter before they let up.
If you want to judge the Bronchos defense by two bad quarters, then be my guest.
Two bad quarters against Mojo means bad news to Bronchos.
coriv
09-28-2008, 07:43 PM
Two bad quarters against Mojo means bad news to Bronchos.
What about the 4th quarter vs. Duncanville or the 1st quarter vs. San Angelo?
BlackAttack
09-28-2008, 07:44 PM
What about the 4th quarter vs. Duncanville or the 1st quarter vs. San Angelo?
Duncanville= first game against talented opponent. San Angelo what? They scored a touchdown, so what?
Same talk every year. You can't compare strength vs. strength, so you try to compare weak. No matter. Bronchos will lose large.
jdlewallen
09-28-2008, 09:02 PM
The closest this game will be will be in the first quarter. OHS's lack of defense, as evidenced by the large number of points they have allowed against mediocre competition, will be the deciding factor. Permian's D will get several big stops, and OHS's lack of second-half production will kill their chances to win...
MOJO wins by a pretty decent margin...
odessapermian.com
09-28-2008, 10:13 PM
MOJO REWIND- 2007 Permian vs OHS game- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YT61pnIMg
jdlewallen
09-28-2008, 10:41 PM
Odessa High held EP Montwood to 7 points before the staters were pulled.
They shutout Lubbock High and held them to 97 yards of offense.
They were up 49-20 in going into the 4th quarter against Coronado before they let up.
They were up 42-14 over Tascosa in the 3rd quarter before they let up.
If you want to judge the Bronchos defense by two bad quarters, then be my guest.
They gave up 35 points to Amarillo Tascosa, a team beaten 40-27 by a team Permian beat 47-10...
They also gave up 49 to Lubbock Coronado (the most that team has scored this year)....
Permian, by contrast, has scored 40+ against every opponent but Duncanville, and has given up 22 points or fewer in every game.
Defensive weakness...
coriv
09-28-2008, 11:11 PM
They gave up 35 points to Amarillo Tascosa, a team beaten 40-27 by a team Permian beat 47-10...
They also gave up 49 to Lubbock Coronado (the most that team has scored this year)....
Permian, by contrast, has scored 40+ against every opponent but Duncanville, and has given up 22 points or fewer in every game.
Defensive weakness...
Do you really want to compare both teams schedules?
Permian's schedule
Duncanville 2-3
SA Central 0-4
Monterey 3-1
Amarillo 2-2
-----------------
7 wins - 10 losses
Odessa High's schedule
Montwood 3-2
Lubbock High 0-4
Coronado 2-2
Tascosa 1-3
------------------
6 wins - 11 losses
BTW, Amarillo also lost to Coronado 36-28 and trailed 36-7 at halftime. Lubbock Monterey barely beat Tascosa 21-14 eventhough Tascosa threw 5 interceptions.
Odessa High scored 42 vs. Montwood, 30 vs. Lubbock High, 49 in 3 quarters vs. Coronado, and 45 vs. Tascosa.
Bang on Odessa High's defense all you want for two bad quarters, but like I said earlier they shutout Lubbock High and held them to 97 yards of offense and held Montwood to a TD before they pulled the starters. And none of the teams Permian has faced has an offense anywhere near as good as Coronado's, much less Odessa High's.
Maybe you will acknowledge the game vs. Duncanville that almost got away since you like to point out when it happens to OHS.
AHSeagles
09-28-2008, 11:24 PM
Either Coriv or the collective group of Mojo posters will be eating some pretty good crow in about a week.
eaglefan87
09-29-2008, 12:40 AM
Hopefully this game will live up to the hype....and I stress HYPE. Alot of talk from both sides....but that's what makes these crosstown rivalries so much fun ain't it! Boy do I miss the old LSWC! I'm picking Mojo in this one.
BlackAttack
09-29-2008, 06:39 AM
an offense anywhere near as good as Coronado's,
Coronados offensive stats are gaudy....BECAUSE THEY PLAYED ODESSA HIGH. :rolleyes:
BlackAttack
09-29-2008, 06:44 AM
Local TV reports 200 cars are lined up at Ratliff to get tickets, which go on sale Tuesday at 4:00.
BlackAttack
09-29-2008, 06:54 AM
Maybe you will acknowledge the game vs. Duncanville that almost got away since you like to point out when it happens to OHS.
1st game for Permian, compared to the last 2 games for Odessa Hi. Permian was up by 3 Tds and started substituting. Duncanville made a run, Permian starters go back in and shut them down. Odessa Hi puts in subs, teams make a run, starters go back in and the opponenets still make their run. It's understandable to have some stumbles early on, but Odessa is 5 weeks into the season and STILL having those stumbles. And other than the Lubbock game, it seems like Odessa Hi has had to hang on by their fingernails to win every game.
Lil_Dragon82
09-29-2008, 11:16 AM
Coronados offensive stats are gaudy....BECAUSE THEY PLAYED ODESSA HIGH. :rolleyes:
I agree, coronado is not that good. they are a good offense that has played against terrible, AND I MEAN TERRIBLE, defenses!
coriv
09-29-2008, 11:38 AM
Coronados offensive stats are gaudy....BECAUSE THEY PLAYED ODESSA HIGH. :rolleyes:
Deny it all you want but they still have a better offense than Amarillo (who they beat), Monterey, and San Angelo. The more I look at it, the more I realize that Permian's defense hasn't even come close to being challenged like it will against OHS.
coriv
09-29-2008, 11:43 AM
1st game for Permian, compared to the last 2 games for Odessa Hi. Permian was up by 3 Tds and started substituting. Duncanville made a run, Permian starters go back in and shut them down. Odessa Hi puts in subs, teams make a run, starters go back in and the opponenets still make their run. It's understandable to have some stumbles early on, but Odessa is 5 weeks into the season and STILL having those stumbles. And other than the Lubbock game, it seems like Odessa Hi has had to hang on by their fingernails to win every game.
Nice explanation, but the fact is that Permian had to hang on vs. Duncanville after having the game in hand, just like OHS. OHS just had to do it twice.
BTW, OHS beat Montwood 42-14.
BlackAttack
09-29-2008, 12:12 PM
Nice explanation, but the fact is that Permian had to hang on vs. Duncanville after having the game in hand, just like OHS. OHS just had to do it twice.
BTW, OHS beat Montwood 42-14.
You're comparing apples to oranges. In Permians case, it was the first game of the year against an opponent that had no meaningful game tape to swap, because they were a new coach and new team. So Permians coaches had little to gameplan on. It's not unusual for even the best defense on earth to have to learn on the fly and make adjustments accordingly in that situation. After a couple of games played, if all goes according to plan your defense is not having to do that 4-5 games into the season. That's the difference...Odessa Hi is 4-5 games into the season and they are still having these letdowns. Permian is not.
Not only that but I feel Permian will have no trouble matching whatever speed Odessa Hi is supposed to have in the skill slots. Odessa is having a nice season but the carriage is going to turn back into a pumpkin well before midnight October 3rd.
Hardline
09-29-2008, 05:33 PM
Corvi needs to lay off the Crack.:D
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 06:13 PM
OHS meets a team that won't let them jump out to a 40 point lead only to hold on to win by 7. They then realize that their time to get their shots in on Permian has passed, and that things are back to the way they are supposed to be in 2008. This leads to various discussions about the Permian side of town conspiring, recruiting, hiring refs, etc etc since 1968.
Mojo 70
Bronchelitas 3
Oh well, maybe next year. :rolleyes:
I'll agree that Permian will not allow them a 40 point lead and I'm glad. They need to learn not to expect it and to cut out the mistakes, so thanks for the game.
Now, about your score, I'll put $ against you having us 70-3 wiseguy. This isn't 1968 and since I was there, I know better. Dream on. :rolleyes:
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 06:14 PM
and PLANO
No way. :D
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 06:25 PM
MOJO REWIND- 2007 Permian vs OHS game- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YT61pnIMg
Two words, Euless Trinity
You want some rewind?
Hardline
09-29-2008, 06:38 PM
Your not Euless Trinity. No even close.:rolleyes:
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Two words, Euless Trinity
One word- relevance?
You want some rewind?
If you're bringing up Trinity to remind us that even a heavy favorite can be tested (see Trinity 17 Keller 10) then yes I agree, we should never take an opponent lightly, especially a crosstown rival. However, if you're trying to compare OHS to Trinity, then I have to agree with the Hardline- put down the crackpipe. :D
mojoguy
09-29-2008, 09:05 PM
I'll agree that Permian will not allow them a 40 point lead and I'm glad. They need to learn not to expect it and to cut out the mistakes, so thanks for the game.
Now, about your score, I'll put $ against you having us 70-3 wiseguy. This isn't 1968 and since I was there, I know better. Dream on. :rolleyes:
I'll wager that the main thing that might keep the score close is our mercy. I believe a 35 point first half is a distinct possibility. The 1968 comment was brought on by a previous comment made by someone else..
mojoguy
09-29-2008, 09:09 PM
Two words, Euless Trinity
You want some rewind?
Depends on which Euless Trinity game you mean. We could rewind to something relevant like the OHS game last season.
AHSeagles
09-29-2008, 09:14 PM
I'll wager that the main thing that might keep the score close is our mercy. I believe a 35 point first half is a distinct possibility. The 1968 comment was brought on by one of your own.
I really don't see Mojo putting it on OHS like this. I do think yall will win, but this is the crosstown rivalry and as all teams in the form LSWC know, anything can happen in that game. Plus, Odessa seems to be looking pretty good this year and has a little momentum going into the game. Lots of people though we were going to put the beat down on Cooper this year. As it would be, Cooper has improved since last year, just as OHS has. Also we didn't exactly play our best game of the season that game and I think Cooper played exceptionally well. That very well could end up happening, you never know. It could end up being a 35 point deficit at half and that wouldn't surprise me. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was a tie game that came down to who has the ball last in the 4th quarter. By the way, when is the last time OHS beat Permian?
mojoguy
09-29-2008, 09:24 PM
I really don't see Mojo putting it on OHS like this. I do think yall will win, but this is the crosstown rivalry and as all teams in the form LSWC know, anything can happen in that game. Plus, Odessa seems to be looking pretty good this year and has a little momentum going into the game. Lots of people though we were going to put the beat down on Cooper this year. As it would be, Cooper has improved since last year, just as OHS has. Also we didn't exactly play our best game of the season that game and I think Cooper played exceptionally well. That very well could end up happening, you never know. It could end up being a 35 point deficit at half and that wouldn't surprise me. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was a tie game that came down to who has the ball last in the 4th quarter. By the way, when is the last time OHS beat Permian?
They have beaten us in 1959, 1963, 1964, 1997, 2004 and 2005. Tied in 1980.
I know OHS is good this year, but I just don't think they will keep it close. It wouldn't shock me to see them go 9-1, but I feel confident the 1 will be Friday.
AHSeagles
09-29-2008, 09:26 PM
They have beaten us in 1959, 1963, 1964, 1997, 2004 and 2005. Tied in 1980.
I know OHS is good this year, but I just don't think they will keep it close. It wouldn't shock me to see them go 9-1, but I feel confident the 1 will be Friday.
Wow that series is even more lopsided than Abilene High-Cooper.
mojoguy
09-29-2008, 09:30 PM
Wow that series is even more lopsided than Abilene High-Cooper.
It has been lopsided, and has included some really good OHS teams at times.
AHSeagles
09-29-2008, 09:32 PM
It has been lopsided, and has included some really good OHS teams at times.
That were beaten by some even better Permian teams.:D Didn't yall win state n 80 when yall tied?
mojoguy
09-29-2008, 09:38 PM
That were beaten by some even better Permian teams.:D Didn't yall win state n 80 when yall tied?
Yep undefeated State Champions that year with the only blemishes being the tie with the Bronchos and a tie the next week against Sherman where we advanced on penetrations. We gave up 65 points in 15 games that year and the Bronchos scored 14 of them. They would have advanced deep in the playoffs that year too. They were 8-1-1 and missed out on the playoffs.
AE 8008
09-29-2008, 09:52 PM
Wow that series is even more lopsided than Abilene High-Cooper.
almost as lopsided as Abilene High-Cooper over the past 5 years:D
AHSeagles
09-29-2008, 09:56 PM
almost as lopsided as Abilene High-Cooper over the past 5 years:D
Good times.:D You know with as good as some of the teams Cooper had in the past, you'd think they would have won at least 1 state championship. I know they were upset in 67 and then got the beat down by Westlake in 96, but they had some really good teams year in and year out. For a team that was as respected as they were for their football program back in their hey day, it seems a little odd.
PermianFan
09-29-2008, 10:02 PM
I know OHS is good this year, but I just don't think they will keep it close. It wouldn't shock me to see them go 9-1, but I feel confident the 1 will be Friday.
I agree. A few of their skill players are comparable to ours, but they don't have much depth. Permian can just keep running talented players in. Meanwhile, those two good linemen they have will play both ways. When they are on defense they're going to be pounded on every play by Permian's huge offensive linemen, and when they are on offense they'll be getting hammered by Permian's quick 240-pound defensive linemen. They'll get no rest. I think they will just run out of gas early in the second half.
Permian should win handily, and it might be a blowout if we get up by two or three TDs before the half.
Still, I do believe OHS has a good chance to make the playoffs and (possibly) go 2 rounds deep. They're a good team.
AE 8008
09-29-2008, 10:09 PM
Good times.:D You know with as good as some of the teams Cooper had in the past, you'd think they would have won at least 1 state championship. I know they were upset in 67 and then got the beat down by Westlake in 96, but they had some really good teams year in and year out. For a team that was as respected as they were for their football program back in their hey day, it seems a little odd.
word
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:18 PM
Your not Euless Trinity. No even close.:rolleyes:
Did I say that? You want rewind, I can choose anyone I like to rewind. Your guy opened the door. :ninja:
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:20 PM
One word- relevance?
If you're bringing up Trinity to remind us that even a heavy favorite can be tested (see Trinity 17 Keller 10) then yes I agree, we should never take an opponent lightly, especially a crosstown rival. However, if you're trying to compare OHS to Trinity, then I have to agree with the Hardline- put down the crackpipe. :D
The relevance should be obvious to you. I'll pick anyone I like for my rewind. You won't get away acting as if you are still the Dynasty. You may get there but you ain't there yet bud.
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:20 PM
Your guy opened the door. :ninja:
By posting a video of two teams who are playing each other this week. Duh?
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:21 PM
The relevance should be obvious to you. I'll pick anyone I like for my rewind. You won't get away acting as if you are still the Dynasty. You may get there but you ain't there yet bud.
Okay, I'll post a video of the Frenship Tigers then. Just as relevant to this week as your nonsense.
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:22 PM
I'll wager that the main thing that might keep the score close is our mercy. I believe a 35 point first half is a distinct possibility. The 1968 comment was brought on by a previous comment made by someone else..
Anything is a possibility. That ball bounces funny at times. I'll say 35 point lead at the half is maybe 20% yes, 80% no. Let's just wait and see who is closer.
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:24 PM
Depends on which Euless Trinity game you mean. We could rewind to something relevant like the OHS game last season.
Sorry, like I said, you opened the door to last year. What's relevant about that team and this one. It's not. You better be ready to play this version.
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:29 PM
By posting a video of two teams who are playing each other this week. Duh?
Now that's just too easy. You know very well the reference was to the thrashing of last year's team. :rolleyes:
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:30 PM
Okay, I'll post a video of the Frenship Tigers then. Just as relevant to this week as your nonsense.
Knock yourself out.
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:31 PM
Now that's just too easy. You know very well the reference was to the thrashing of last year's team. :rolleyes:
Well, I'd be happy to post footage of Odessa High thrashing Permian, but it is very rare. If I come across some I'll let ya know.
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:34 PM
Knock yourself out.
Don't think I won't cuz I will.:p
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:39 PM
Don't think I won't cuz I will.:p
Well I've been to Frenship, have you? :D
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:40 PM
Well, I'd be happy to post footage of Odessa High thrashing Permian, but it is very rare. If I come across some I'll let ya know.
If I could still suit up, you would find out. :D
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:43 PM
Well I've been to Frenship, have you? :D
Yes, several times. They have a decent 4A program there. And seem to defeat Odessa High when they meet on the football field.
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:46 PM
If I could still suit up, you would find out. :D
After doing some quick research it appears there will be no Youtube posted of Odessa High thrashing Permian. The closest thing to a thrashing Odessa High has done vs Permian was a 28-6 win in 1963. Best as I can determine, digital video was not available to consumers in 1963.
Bummer.
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:46 PM
Yes, several times. They have a decent 4A program there. And seem to defeat Odessa High when they meet on the football field.
I noticed they do seem to have a good program. I lived around there for several years.
But, I'm assuming you haven't noticed that OHS didn't play them this year. So comparing this team to last year's just isn't relevant.
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:49 PM
I noticed they do seem to have a good program. I lived around there for several years.
But, I'm assuming you haven't noticed that OHS didn't play them this year. So comparing this team to last year's just isn't relevant.
Probably a good thing they haven't played.
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:51 PM
Probably a good thing they haven't played.
Yeah, wouldn't want Frenship's record ruined.
Did any of your relatives attend OHS?
I'll wager the answer is no. Otherwise you would have a different attitude.
odessapermian.com
09-29-2008, 11:54 PM
Yeah, wouldn't want Frenship's record ruined.
Did any of your relatives attend OHS?
I'll wager the answer is no. Otherwise you would have a different attitude.
If they did, it would be in the past and according to you, that wouldn't be relevant. And we wouldn't want to tweak your relevance gene would we?
It is funny though....an OHS graduate posted on this thread a couple of hours ago about this game. He's predicting a large win for MOJO. Probably not relevant at all.
Redhoss
09-29-2008, 11:58 PM
If they did, it would be in the past and according to you, that wouldn't be relevant. And we wouldn't want to tweak your relevance gene would we?
It is funny though....an OHS graduate posted on this thread a couple of hours ago about this game. He's predicting a large win for MOJO. Probably not relevant at all.
That says it all. You can't answer the question directly can you. :eek:
Try reading the thread and you will see that I predicted a mojo win as well. :rolleyes:
Relevant or not, chew on this, I most likely have more relatives who graduated from Permian than you do. I have a lot of relatives who also graduated from OHS. And more than likely, my family has lived there many generations more than yours. :ninja:
odessapermian.com
09-30-2008, 12:03 AM
That says it all. You can't answer the question directly can you. :eek:
Try reading the thread and you will see that I predicted a mojo win as well. :rolleyes:
Relevant or not, chew on this, I most likely have more relatives who graduated from Permian than you do. I have a lot of relatives who also graduated from OHS. And more than likely, my family has lived there many generations more than yours. :ninja:
Uh, alrighty then. You keep going back and forth, ranting about relevance then asking questions with no relevance at all.
Never thought the simple posting of a video would set someone off so badly. :rolleyes:
This game will come down to turnovers and containing the quarterback, in my opinion. Permian makes turnovers and can't contain, then OHS takes it. Permian contains the QB and has no turnovers then they win big.
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 10:59 AM
Uh, alrighty then. You keep going back and forth, ranting about relevance then asking questions with no relevance at all.
Never thought the simple posting of a video would set someone off so badly. :rolleyes:
It's called winning with class and humility. When Permian was a dynasty, they never acted like it. They weren't arrogant and boastful. They were workmanlike and humble and extremely disciplined. They acted like the true Champions that they were.
You can post whatever you like but I don't think it speaks really well of Permian to compare last year to this year. These teams are both different and I don't think it's fair to them to make those comparisons.
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 11:07 AM
After doing some quick research it appears there will be no Youtube posted of Odessa High thrashing Permian. The closest thing to a thrashing Odessa High has done vs Permian was a 28-6 win in 1963. Best as I can determine, digital video was not available to consumers in 1963.
Bummer.
I'm really not interested in seeing a 1963 win over Permian posted here on youtube. If I wanted to watch a game from the past, I'd do it privately.
It's not relevant to the upcoming game. I'm sure the players aren't sitting around basking in the thrashing of last year's team.
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 11:18 AM
This game will come down to turnovers and containing the quarterback, in my opinion. Permian makes turnovers and can't contain, then OHS takes it. Permian contains the QB and has no turnovers then they win big.
I'd like to hear from those who have seen either or both teams play this year. What are the strengths, weaknesses, O's, D's, special teams, etc. ?
From what I've been able to discern from listening on the radio, OHS seems to have the usual plethora of mistakes and penalties. If they play Permian the way they have played in the recent past, I'd expect them to lose.
One of the keys to Permian's winning history has always been being disciplined, not making mistakes and taking advantage of the opponent's miscues.
BlackAttack
09-30-2008, 11:53 AM
It's called winning with class and humility. When Permian was a dynasty, they never acted like it. They weren't arrogant and boastful. They were workmanlike and humble and extremely disciplined. They acted like the true Champions that they were.
You can post whatever you like but I don't think it speaks really well of Permian to compare last year to this year. These teams are both different and I don't think it's fair to them to make those comparisons.
Put me on the list of people who don't see how posting a highlight video equals a lack of class and humility. It looks to me like you made a lame attempt to talk trash by mentioning Euless Trinity and now that it has blown back in your face, you're trying to come with another angle.
BlackAttack
09-30-2008, 11:57 AM
That says it all. You can't answer the question directly can you. :eek:
Try reading the thread and you will see that I predicted a mojo win as well. :rolleyes:
Relevant or not, chew on this, I most likely have more relatives who graduated from Permian than you do. I have a lot of relatives who also graduated from OHS. And more than likely, my family has lived there many generations more than yours. :ninja:
Cool. Do you get some sort of prize for that? Or does it just mean nobody else gets to express an opinion? I'm not sure what your family history means to anything here?
BlackAttack
09-30-2008, 12:00 PM
This game will come down to turnovers and containing the quarterback, in my opinion. Permian makes turnovers and can't contain, then OHS takes it. Permian contains the QB and has no turnovers then they win big.
I believe it all comes down to the trenches, and Permian has a huge advantage on both sides of the ball. Odessa Hi may score some points but in my opinion they will be while their quarterback is running for his life. You can't live off of lucky strikes from busted plays forever. Eventually the Broncos will wear down.
KattTx
09-30-2008, 12:15 PM
I'd like to hear from those who have seen either or both teams play this year. What are the strengths, weaknesses, O's, D's, special teams, etc. ?
I have seen 2 OHS games and 2 Permian games. Watched OHS against Coronado and EP Montwood - Permian against SA Central and Amarillo.
I think some of OHS's weakness can be attributed to two things - youth and depth. They have their two best and most experienced lineman (Dex Dennard and Ruben Talamantes) going both ways most plays. Playing both ways is okay if needed - anywhere but on the lines. And the youth comes in to play with their pension for pulling way back once they get a comfortable lead. It's one thing to get surprised by a TD late in that type of game, but to allow a team to score 3 times in 6 minutes (I think that was the case)... well that's a horse of a different color. Couple that with their penalties and mistakes, and you have a team that just needs some more time in the saddle. (The majority of their playmakers are soph's and juniors)
Their strength is obviously their offense - this unit is working very smoothly together and has a larger bag of weapons to pull from. The Marquez boys are fast, smart, and tough. They also have three pretty decent receivers. Nice to see them be able to spread out a little for a change.
The Permian guys have pretty much covered what's what with them - but in the two games I have seen them, their improvement from one to the next was highly visible. The first game I saw, I wanted to shoot myself the defense looked so loose and timid. The next time I saw them (2 weeks later) they had made huge progress on the pass rush and in the secondary. I expect to see the same again this week. Offensively, well Permian is a machine so far. :notworthy
KattTx
09-30-2008, 12:21 PM
I believe it all comes down to the trenches, and Permian has a huge advantage on both sides of the ball. Odessa Hi may score some points but in my opinion they will be while their quarterback is running for his life. You can't live off of lucky strikes from busted plays forever. Eventually the Broncos will wear down.
Pup is always running for his life - he doesn't know how to play any other way. :D Seriously though, he has had a fair to poor offensive line since starting his soph year after Camacho quit - so that's nothing new to him and doesn't affect him that much. They can't just get a little pressure on him and expect him to fold. The Dline is going to have to be relentless and get TO him often if they want to shut him down, imho.
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 03:26 PM
I have seen 2 OHS games and 2 Permian games. Watched OHS against Coronado and EP Montwood - Permian against SA Central and Amarillo.
I think some of OHS's weakness can be attributed to two things - youth and depth. They have their two best and most experienced lineman (Dex Dennard and Ruben Talamantes) going both ways most plays. Playing both ways is okay if needed - anywhere but on the lines. And the youth comes in to play with their pension for pulling way back once they get a comfortable lead. It's one thing to get surprised by a TD late in that type of game, but to allow a team to score 3 times in 6 minutes (I think that was the case)... well that's a horse of a different color. Couple that with their penalties and mistakes, and you have a team that just needs some more time in the saddle. (The majority of their playmakers are soph's and juniors)
Their strength is obviously their offense - this unit is working very smoothly together and has a larger bag of weapons to pull from. The Marquez boys are fast, smart, and tough. They also have three pretty decent receivers. Nice to see them be able to spread out a little for a change.
The Permian guys have pretty much covered what's what with them - but in the two games I have seen them, their improvement from one to the next was highly visible. The first game I saw, I wanted to shoot myself the defense looked so loose and timid. The next time I saw them (2 weeks later) they had made huge progress on the pass rush and in the secondary. I expect to see the same again this week. Offensively, well Permian is a machine so far. :notworthy
That more or less mirrors what I've been able to conclude from the resources I've had. Thanks
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 03:29 PM
Put me on the list of people who don't see how posting a highlight video equals a lack of class and humility. It looks to me like you made a lame attempt to talk trash by mentioning Euless Trinity and now that it has blown back in your face, you're trying to come with another angle.
So you would have preferred that I posted a reel of Euless Trinity kicking your backsides last year?
Think about it, the reel is from LAST YEAR. Look at the topic of this post. It has nothing to do with last year and you are making my point for me. :rolleyes:
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 03:35 PM
Cool. Do you get some sort of prize for that? Or does it just mean nobody else gets to express an opinion? I'm not sure what your family history means to anything here?
I'm not trying to win a prize thanks.
Family history goes to my knowledge base.
I want the young Panthers to understand their heritage and how those before them conducted themselves. Their focus was on the opponent in front of them, never on an achievement from last year. That made them different.
BlackAttack
09-30-2008, 03:51 PM
So you would have preferred that I posted a reel of Euless Trinity kicking your backsides last year?
Think about it, the reel is from LAST YEAR. Look at the topic of this post. It has nothing to do with last year and you are making my point for me. :rolleyes:
What does Euless Trinity have to do with this? You keep talking about the relevant posts but I'm sorry a team that is not involved in this matchup Friday night has NO relevance at all, and you look like an idiot for even bringing it up. I guess he could post the video from the game where Permian beat Trinity, would that make your example any less stupid? Nope. I think you're making a great assumption as to the intent of the video post, and that makes everyone else's point. If Odessa Hi had won last year you would have no problem with the video, I guarantee it. And the family thing makes me laugh. All that tells me is you and you family have experienced a lot of losing as far as this series goes. What knowledge do you have? You were asking other people for information on the game. Knowledge? Huh. As for the Panthers of today, they didn't post the video and they don't reply on this board so that is yet another meaningless point. Good job.
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 04:16 PM
What does Euless Trinity have to do with this? You keep talking about the relevant posts but I'm sorry a team that is not involved in this matchup Friday night has NO relevance at all, and you look like an idiot for even bringing it up. I guess he could post the video from the game where Permian beat Trinity, would that make your example any less stupid? Nope. I think you're making a great assumption as to the intent of the video post, and that makes everyone else's point. If Odessa Hi had won last year you would have no problem with the video, I guarantee it. And the family thing makes me laugh. All that tells me is you and you family have experienced a lot of losing as far as this series goes. What knowledge do you have? You were asking other people for information on the game. Knowledge? Huh. As for the Panthers of today, they didn't post the video and they don't reply on this board so that is yet another meaningless point. Good job.
Tell you what, you and yours go right ahead and post whatever reel you like. It's not going to make any difference in the game. Neither team from last year is playing. Do you get that at all?
odessapermian.com
09-30-2008, 04:17 PM
It's always fascinating to watch otherwise rational Odessa Broncho fans go full tilt bozo the week they play Permian. The fact that you previously picked Permian to win, but now you continue to press your very shaky position concerning your reply about the video, etc. just shows that you were interested in nothing more than an argument.
Redhoss
09-30-2008, 04:30 PM
It's always fascinating to watch otherwise rational Odessa Broncho fans go full tilt bozo the week they play Permian. The fact that you previously picked Permian to win, but now you continue to press your very shaky position concerning your reply about the video, etc. just shows that you were interested in nothing more than an argument.
Have it your way Cat, me I'm done. Have a good season.
odessapermian.com
09-30-2008, 04:50 PM
Huey Lewis and The News played a concert for the Education Foundation.
http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/2133589f551b2d223d21f947c47fb22c2a0128c.jpg
:notworthy
coriv
09-30-2008, 05:26 PM
Huey Lewis and The News played a concert for the Education Foundation.
http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/2133589f551b2d223d21f947c47fb22c2a0128c.jpg
:notworthy
Is that really something to brag about?
Lil_Dragon82
09-30-2008, 07:08 PM
Even though I think Permian will lay the smack down on Hodessa High I would Like to see HoHS win this one. If they cold somehow pull this one out then Monterey will have a piece of the championship after they beat Hodessa. 3-way tie...maybe so! GO HODESSA HIGH!!!!!
coriv
09-30-2008, 07:22 PM
Even though I think Permian will lay the smack down on Hodessa High I would Like to see HoHS win this one. If they cold somehow pull this one out then Monterey will have a piece of the championship after they beat Hodessa. 3-way tie...maybe so! GO HODESSA HIGH!!!!!
1. It's OHS.
2. Monterey better worry about beating Midland High first.
3. Monterey needs to find a passing game.
4. Monterey has beaten a 1 one win 4A school, a no win 5A school, and only beat Tascosa by 7 eventhough Tascosa threw 5 interceptions.
Lil_Dragon82
09-30-2008, 07:35 PM
Monterey has never had a passing game (last year being an exception) and haven't seemed to struggle much...3rd round 5 yrs in a row '00-'04 and again in '06.
Monterey is not built to score alot of points. It was Tascosa, Monterey was way too confident and got down 14. They battled back and won a close game. Thats the sign of a winner to me. At least they didn't give up 35 points to them. Tascosa is much better than their record indicates. They could surprise any team in district and win (ok, maybe not Permian).
Dont talk crap about playing a 1 win 4A team. HoHS played an EP team. Prolly 5 of the 10 JV's in 2-5A could win the EP district
Both go into this game at 4-0. Odessa High is lead by sophomore sensation running back Bradley Marquez(Son of Brad Givens) and jr. QB Derric Teegarden. The Offense has managed to put up some impressive numbers this year and has not been held to under 30 points. Permian is lead by a massive O-line anchored by future Longhorn Garret Porter. Sherrard Ray Sr. Running Back has looked impressive all year and is getting more productive with each game(277 yards in his last outing against Amarillo High). Will this game be a back and forth battle with the game being decided on the last possession or a classic MOJO beatdown? Thoughts?????
Two very different 4-0 teams, both very good though.... Mojo by 7
Mojo 42
OH 35
Hardline
09-30-2008, 08:35 PM
REDHOSS, You are making yourself look like an Idiot. You keep talking
about how we have no class. Go back and look at what you have said.
Your the one with no class. You are a typical OHS fan. Always making
excuses and directing all you season hopes on one game. Get a life!:rolleyes:
DaveSL
09-30-2008, 09:38 PM
I'd like to hear from those who have seen either or both teams play this year. What are the strengths, weaknesses, O's, D's, special teams, etc. ?
From what I've been able to discern from listening on the radio, OHS seems to have the usual plethora of mistakes and penalties. If they play Permian the way they have played in the recent past, I'd expect them to lose.
One of the keys to Permian's winning history has always been being disciplined, not making mistakes and taking advantage of the opponent's miscues.
I have seen both teams this year. Mojo/Duncanville and Odessa/Montwood. These were begining of year games, but Mojo was far ahead of what I saw from OHS. Permian has more weapons and talent, but OHS has a big set of bullets in the offensive backfield. I believe OHS can hang with Permian for a quarter, maybe two. After that, all mojo by at least twenty, thirty,......
jdlewallen
09-30-2008, 11:35 PM
Two very different 4-0 teams, both very good though.... Mojo by 7
Mojo 42
OH 35
Our D won't give up even half that many points!!:D
jdlewallen
09-30-2008, 11:57 PM
Fun article about the demand for tickets for the game....gonna be a sell-out!!
http://www.oaoa.com/news/number_21421___article.html/permian_tickets.html
MOJO94
10-01-2008, 04:23 AM
I always try to stay away from this thread, but I had to see if any new ohs fans came out this year to talk some smack. Kind of looks like how the game will go.....too much MOJO depth. This should be a great game, I just hope the PHS DB's are ready. They will be the key to a MOJO victory.
fballgirl22
10-01-2008, 09:30 AM
Was down at ECISD this morning and standing room tickets are now gone as well. Several people about 50-100 possibly more were turned away. The only tickets remaining are a limited amount of student tickets.
KattTx
10-01-2008, 10:01 AM
I was number 45 and couldn't get more than two seats together - ended up with 5 sets of two. My friend was about 20 behind me and all of her tickets were singles! The OHS side wasn't much better from what people around me said last night.
Some of those OOOOLD Permian folks who never come to the games need to fork over their season tickets to people that actually want to use them. :D
fballgirl22
10-01-2008, 10:18 AM
I was number 45 and couldn't get more than two seats together - ended up with 5 sets of two. My friend was about 20 behind me and all of her tickets were singles! The OHS side wasn't much better from what people around me said last night.
Some of those OOOOLD Permian folks who never come to the games need to fork over their season tickets to people that actually want to use them. :D
I haven't seen the people that own the three seats next to mine in 5 years. Hopefully they stay away this Friday as well, the extra leg room is nice. :D
KattTx
10-01-2008, 11:19 AM
I haven't seen the people that own the three seats next to mine in 5 years. Hopefully they stay away this Friday as well, the extra leg room is nice. :D
That's pretty common. We sat on the visitor's side for the SA Central game because we couldn't get very good seats on the home side. Anyway, I took a picture of the home stands during the second quarter and there were tons of empty seats over there that I know weren't for sale at the ticket office. They had to belong to season holders who just don't show.
I wish ECISD would figure something out like coming up with a system to allow the owners of the seats to retain their ownership but allow tickets to be sold for games they won't be at. Or charge people a yearly fee for keeping the rights, in addition to the cost of the tickets. Say $50 dollars a seat per year to retain the rights.
mojoguy
10-01-2008, 01:06 PM
That's pretty common. We sat on the visitor's side for the SA Central game because we couldn't get very good seats on the home side. Anyway, I took a picture of the home stands during the second quarter and there were tons of empty seats over there that I know weren't for sale at the ticket office. They had to belong to season holders who just don't show.
I wish ECISD would figure something out like coming up with a system to allow the owners of the seats to retain their ownership but allow tickets to be sold for games they won't be at. Or charge people a yearly fee for keeping the rights, in addition to the cost of the tickets. Say $50 dollars a seat per year to retain the rights.
That would require common sense, and our school district lacks that on matters such as this. It's amazing to me that Permian has been having to sell tickets like this for years, and ECISD still reserves well over 1000 seats for the 25 or so elementary school kids that don't sit with their parents every week. For this game, I imagine it will be one full section on each side reserved for that, yet they could not find 3000 tickets to sell in the 18000 seat stadium during the week of the game. I won't be shocked to see some glaring holes in the stadium's seating for a game that they could have easily had well over 20000 show up for a legit ticket count. As it stands, this week has been a real gong show.
But yes, personal seat licenses should be charged. I just can't believe we gave up our season tickets when we did. I've about decided to try to get my hands on some again for next season.
KattTx
10-01-2008, 01:29 PM
But yes, personal seat licenses should be charged. I just can't believe we gave up our season tickets when we did. I've about decided to try to get my hands on some again for next season.
I know I would gladly pay a seasonal surcharge within reason. And maybe it would make some people rethink having to pay $50/ seat when they have 15 seats. But I think we are going to sell the rights to ours. Since they took out all of those seats for construction and shuffled all of us around - ours are too far up for my taste. We went from row 20 to row 34. :(
mojoguy
10-01-2008, 01:32 PM
I know I would gladly pay a seasonal surcharge within reason. And maybe it would make some people rethink having to pay $50/ seat when they have 15 seats. But I think we are going to sell the rights to ours. Since they took out all of those seats for construction and shuffled all of us around - ours are too far up for my taste. We went from row 20 to row 34. :(
If you are looking to get rid of them and don't have other plans for them, I would definitely be more than happy to take them off your hands next season. We love those higher seats around here! :D
MOJO94
10-01-2008, 02:03 PM
There will be people who got more tickets than they need and they will sell them at the gate. I got four and may only use two.
mojoguy
10-01-2008, 02:16 PM
Anyone that has two additional seats that they aren't using and would be willing to part with for this week, let me know also. I'm very interested in upgrading from the tickets number 327 in line was able to get.
AE 8008
10-01-2008, 02:32 PM
I know I would gladly pay a seasonal surcharge within reason. And maybe it would make some people rethink having to pay $50/ seat when they have 15 seats. But I think we are going to sell the rights to ours. Since they took out all of those seats for construction and shuffled all of us around - ours are too far up for my taste. We went from row 20 to row 34. :(
being in college and all, i could use some help with my laundry:D
KattTx
10-01-2008, 02:34 PM
being in college and all, i could use some help with my laundry:D
Ummm... no thanks! I'm getting overloaded with that laundry deal everytime the kid comes home to "see me". I think he's more interested in the washer and dryer and Mom's slave labor rates! And some of those clothes tested my gag reflex! :eek::D:D
AE 8008
10-01-2008, 02:38 PM
Ummm... no thanks! I'm getting overloaded with that laundry deal everytime the kid comes home to "see me". I think he's more interested in the washer and dryer and Mom's slave labor rates! And some of those clothes tested my gag reflex! :eek::D:D
hahaha allllriighhtt. just be glad your kid can come home!
KatySwarm
10-01-2008, 02:41 PM
Permain will win with ease. It won't be close.
Maxthedog
10-02-2008, 01:01 PM
Being from Odessa and still having an interest in Odessa HS football, it's great to see the excitement of the Permian vs Odessa High rekindled. It's been a while since this game had much meaning. It will be interesting to see if Odessa has closed the gap between the 2 programs.
mojoguy
10-02-2008, 01:06 PM
Well, we found some good tickets..... on the red side. Maybe they won't notice me amongst their ranks wearing all black. ;)
mojoguy
10-02-2008, 01:09 PM
Being from Odessa and still having an interest in Odessa HS football, it's great to see the excitement of the Permian vs Odessa High rekindled. It's been a while since this game had much meaning. It will be interesting to see if Odessa has closed the gap between the 2 programs.
OHS is a very good team this year without a doubt, and really should be getting a little more respect from some polls than they are. That being said, I still think we will win comfortably. OHS is definitely capable of going 9-1 this season though if they play their game. If quite a few things go their way Friday night, you never can tell. I think it would take winning the turnover battle by about 4 and Permian arm-tackling for most of the game, but there is a reason you play the games.
jdlewallen
10-02-2008, 08:41 PM
Less than 24 hours left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D
mojo78
10-02-2008, 09:14 PM
It will be the same ole Permian bashin. If Permian wants to run it all night long they will. If they want to throw they will. If they decide to mix it up they could score 50+. Ive seen both play up close and there is no comparison. Permians size and speed will dominate.
Empire strikes back
10-02-2008, 09:20 PM
There's only one word that says it all- "MOJO"!!!
toonman
10-02-2008, 09:27 PM
I take Mojo by more than 10. Permian are good this season, but OHS nearly always manage fall to PHS.
mojoguy
10-03-2008, 08:48 AM
Put on the warpaint. It's gonna be a bloody night. :D
KattTx
10-03-2008, 09:30 AM
Put on the warpaint. It's gonna be a bloody night. :D
Dang it's gonna be a long day - and our shop is pretty much shutting down after lunch!! :D
Oh well, once I get to the house and start cookin up the tailgate fare, time should fly by. Hey Mojoguy - you coming to the tailgate?
mojoguy
10-03-2008, 01:22 PM
Dang it's gonna be a long day - and our shop is pretty much shutting down after lunch!! :D
Oh well, once I get to the house and start cookin up the tailgate fare, time should fly by. Hey Mojoguy - you coming to the tailgate?
What time will yall be setting up shop in the parking lot? I might drop by after a little while, but I have to be at a Geology club meeting at UTPB at 5:30.
Maxthedog
10-03-2008, 02:22 PM
Well, I'd be happy to post footage of Odessa High thrashing Permian, but it is very rare. If I come across some I'll let ya know.
It would be in black and white, with fuzzy snow looking stuff that was because of the aluminimun foil on the rabbit ears. Occasionally you would pick up the bull fights in Mexico, but that only lasted for a second or 2. :)
AHSeagles
10-03-2008, 02:58 PM
Will there be anyone in Odessa that won't be at the game that will be able to keep us up to date on the scores here?
Maxthedog
10-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Put on the warpaint. It's gonna be a bloody night. :D
Speaking of warpaint....mojo do they still do the red/white painting of the Panther in front of Permian,,,or the all black on the Horse kina thing? I lived in Odessa when OHS was the toughest game Permian had, before the PO's.
mojoguy
10-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Speaking of warpaint....mojo do they still do the red/white painting of the Panther in front of Permian,,,or the all black on the Horse kina thing? I lived in Odessa when OHS was the toughest game Permian had, before the PO's.
Not to my knowledge, but I've been known to overlook things like that from time to time.
MOJO94
10-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Even though I think Permian will lay the smack down on Hodessa High I would Like to see HoHS win this one. If they cold somehow pull this one out then Monterey will have a piece of the championship after they beat Hodessa. 3-way tie...maybe so! GO HODESSA HIGH!!!!!Should have taken care of MHS first.:D
MOJO94
10-03-2008, 03:58 PM
Speaking of warpaint....mojo do they still do the red/white painting of the Panther in front of Permian,,,or the all black on the Horse kina thing? I lived in Odessa when OHS was the toughest game Permian had, before the PO's.Dang I knew I forgot to do somthing last night.:)
Redhoss
10-03-2008, 04:03 PM
Will there be anyone in Odessa that won't be at the game that will be able to keep us up to date on the scores here?
Yeah, they usually tie up the radio guys to make sure they stay and keep the station working. :D
You can listen to the broadcast streaming live at one of the stations.
You can listen to the game online at www.kicks99.net or www.97gold.com
AHSeagles
10-03-2008, 04:05 PM
Yeah, they usually tie up the radio guys to make sure they stay and keep the station working. :D
You can listen to the broadcast streaming live at one of the stations.
You can listen to the game online at www.kicks99.net or www.97gold.com
Thanks! Wish I could make the trip to Odessa to see this game. After last night I really miss playing out west.:(
KattTx
10-03-2008, 04:06 PM
What time will yall be setting up shop in the parking lot? I might drop by after a little while, but I have to be at a Geology club meeting at UTPB at 5:30.
We are loading up and heading out at 5. Should be ready to chow by 5:30.
We will be along the North fence on the visitors side - as close to the rear gate to the stadium as we can. Look for gray avalanche, blue avalanche, 57 Chevy white with ghost flames, and a big Permian flag with the black and white stripes.
KattTx
10-03-2008, 04:08 PM
AHSEagles, they tell me that FSN is going to be there covering it - but I have no idea if they are filming the game or just there for highlights n stuff.
The Wiz
10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
OHS is a very good team this year without a doubt, and really should be getting a little more respect from some polls than they are. That being said, I still think we will win comfortably. OHS is definitely capable of going 9-1 this season though if they play their game. If quite a few things go their way Friday night, you never can tell. I think it would take winning the turnover battle by about 4 and Permian arm-tackling for most of the game, but there is a reason you play the games.
I think the one vote OHS got in this week's AP Top 10 was more than generous. They have played nothing but the also-rans of the district (and don't say Coronado, last season was a fluke), and haven't done anything worthy of a ranking. I'm sure OHS homer Lee Schiede was the one person giving them a vote.
All they have proven so far this year is that they can beat the teams they are supposed to beat, unlike Broncho teams of year's past. So they're better than usual, but not one of the 30 best teams in the state. I think OHS strikes first in this one, the Panthers regain their focus and roll to victory. MOJO 46 OHS 22
AHSeagles
10-03-2008, 04:10 PM
AHSEagles, they tell me that FSN is going to be there covering it - but I have no idea if they are filming the game or just there for highlights n stuff.
I'll look for it on tv then. I hope it's going to be aired, but I think they only video Thursday and Saturday high school games live.
The Wiz
10-03-2008, 04:12 PM
AHSEagles, they tell me that FSN is going to be there covering it - but I have no idea if they are filming the game or just there for highlights n stuff.
I'm sure it's the "DQ Big Game of the Week" for the High School Scoreboard Live show they do at midnight on FSNSW.
mojoguy
10-03-2008, 04:16 PM
We are loading up and heading out at 5. Should be ready to chow by 5:30.
We will be along the North fence on the visitors side - as close to the rear gate to the stadium as we can. Look for gray avalanche, blue avalanche, 57 Chevy white with ghost flames, and a big Permian flag with the black and white stripes.
We found out that we won't be getting to the stadium until around 7 or so, so I don't think I'll be able to make it this week. I'll be looking forward to trying to catch up with yall some other week though. This week is just hectic trying to meet up with our ticket contact and everything. Thanks for the invite though , I really appreciate it! :D
coriv
10-03-2008, 04:18 PM
I think the one vote OHS got in this week's AP Top 10 was more than generous. They have played nothing but the also-rans of the district (and don't say Coronado, last season was a fluke), and haven't done anything worthy of a ranking. I'm sure OHS homer Lee Schiede was the one person giving them a vote.
All they have proven so far this year is that they can beat the teams they are supposed to beat, unlike Broncho teams of year's past. So they're better than usual, but not one of the 30 best teams in the state. I think OHS strikes first in this one, the Panthers regain their focus and roll to victory. MOJO 46 OHS 22
The one vote for OHS came from the Amarillo Globe News, who has Permian ranked #3 in their top 10.
Coronado beat Amarillo, Monterey didn't look so hot last night and Permian's other district win was against Central, so Permian doesn't exactly have much to brag about in district either.
mojoguy
10-03-2008, 04:22 PM
Good luck to everyone tonight and be safe.
The Wiz
10-03-2008, 04:23 PM
The one vote for OHS came from the Amarillo Globe News, who has Permian ranked #3 in their top 10.
Coronado beat Amarillo, Monterey didn't look so hot last night and Permian's other district win was against Central, so Permian doesn't exactly have much to brag about in district either.
Permian's reputation precedes itself, with last season's showing and returning starters they started with a high ranking and have done nothing to change the voter's opinions.
If OHS deserves a ranking they will have to prove it tonight against the first real competition they have faced this season. Coming off a 2-8 record I don't think they have earned any accolades just yet.
The Wiz
10-03-2008, 04:48 PM
So will anyone be posting play by play? I'm working and can't get streaming live audio on this computer. I will be majorly bummed if I can't even keep up with the game live or close to it.
coriv
10-03-2008, 04:53 PM
So will anyone be posting play by play? I'm working and can't get streaming live audio on this computer. I will be majorly bummed if I can't even keep up with the game live or close to it.
Go to mywesttexasfootball.com (http://www.mywesttexasfootball.com). There should also be a live blog during the game at the OA website (http://www.oavarsity.com).
MOJO94
10-03-2008, 10:39 PM
The one vote for OHS came from the Amarillo Globe News, who has Permian ranked #3 in their top 10.
Coronado beat Amarillo, Monterey didn't look so hot last night and Permian's other district win was against Central, so Permian doesn't exactly have much to brag about in district either.
Can we brag now?:D
jdlewallen
10-03-2008, 11:33 PM
I think the one vote OHS got in this week's AP Top 10 was more than generous. They have played nothing but the also-rans of the district (and don't say Coronado, last season was a fluke), and haven't done anything worthy of a ranking. I'm sure OHS homer Lee Schiede was the one person giving them a vote.
All they have proven so far this year is that they can beat the teams they are supposed to beat, unlike Broncho teams of year's past. So they're better than usual, but not one of the 30 best teams in the state. I think OHS strikes first in this one, the Panthers regain their focus and roll to victory. MOJO 46 OHS 22
Not bad...you underestimated the Panthers just a bit, though...:D
jdlewallen
10-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Can we brag now?:D
Hee hee.....
As I said earlier, it came down to Defense: OHS doesn't have much of one and PHS does...as they discovered...:D
jdlewallen
10-03-2008, 11:39 PM
Permian meets a team with an offense and gets shredded.
:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh
fballgirl22
10-03-2008, 11:45 PM
:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh
Seriously guys, coriv is a good and loyal devout fan of the bronchos that follows them through thick and thin. Lets show a little class.
MOJO94
10-03-2008, 11:53 PM
Seriously guys, coriv is a good and loyal devout fan of the bronchos that follows them through thick and thin. Lets show a little class.Yes he is and that is why we will not say anything bad to coriv. He would not dish it out if he could not take it. Sry coriv I was not tryin to be ugly.
The Wiz
10-04-2008, 12:00 AM
Come on now people... a little good natured ribbing never hurt anyone! Whatever happened to the rivalry and trash talk? Don't tell me that even Odessa has gone all P.C on me in my absence...
The Wiz
10-04-2008, 12:02 AM
Not bad...you underestimated the Panthers just a bit, though...:D
I did pretty well on my 2-5A picks this week... if Coronado beat Lubbock High then I went 5-0 this week. everyone else > :notworthy ME > :D lol j/k
fballgirl22
10-04-2008, 12:04 AM
Come on now people... a little good natured ribbing never hurt anyone! Whatever happened to the rivalry and trash talk? Don't tell me that even Odessa has gone all P.C on me in my absence...
I agree the ribbing is all in fun and is part of the game but to do it after the fact is kinds shi**y IMO.
PermianFan4Life
10-04-2008, 12:08 AM
The Bronchos should go 9-1 through district! They didn't look bad but I do question their stamina.
The Wiz
10-04-2008, 12:10 AM
I guess... but if you have a debate going, and you predict your team is going to demolish the opposition, and someone disputes that and feels the opposite I think it is only fair you get some amount of gloating when you are right. Just as you should take it when you are wrong. Just my opinion.
The Wiz
10-04-2008, 12:13 AM
To see if I can keep my prediction streak going... I see OHS finishing 8-4, losing to Lee and Midland, then winning their 1st round PO game against an EP school, losing the following week.
jdlewallen
10-04-2008, 12:27 AM
I agree the ribbing is all in fun and is part of the game but to do it after the fact is kinds shi**y IMO.
Don't shoot your mouth off beforehand if you don't want to eat your words later...:cool:
PermianFan4Life
10-04-2008, 12:31 AM
To see if I can keep my prediction streak going... I see OHS finishing 8-4, losing to Lee and Midland, then winning their 1st round PO game against an EP school, losing the following week.
8-4? Okay who's the fourth team? LOL
AHSeagles
10-04-2008, 12:34 AM
8-4? Okay who's the fourth team? LOL
Their second round playoff loss. This record means they finish 7-3 in the regular season then win one playoff game followed by a season ending loss.
PermianFan4Life
10-04-2008, 12:36 AM
Their second round playoff loss. This record means they finish 7-3 in the regular season then win one playoff game followed by a season ending loss.
I was being a smart a@#$@, LOL
TheVoice
10-04-2008, 12:44 AM
Congratulations to the Panthers, and keep it up... as to the Bronchos, now we're rooting for you, too. Once this game's out of the way, Odessans are Odessans. I wish I was there to prove it.
odessapermian.com
10-04-2008, 12:54 AM
Well, Lee Scheide got our half of the score right. :D
coriv
10-04-2008, 11:23 AM
Congratulations to the Panthers. Best of luck the rest of district and in the playoffs.
odessapermian.com
10-05-2008, 02:27 AM
MOJO 54 OHS 20 VIDEO- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdzYzSaDUgk
Redhoss
10-05-2008, 12:20 PM
I agree the ribbing is all in fun and is part of the game but to do it after the fact is kinds shi**y IMO.
You mean something like a boxing match and you've just knocked the guy down, he's bleeding, has a concussion and now you administer a kick in the ribs? Yeah, I'd say that's pretty much it.
Thankfully you and some other Panthers have a bit of class. :D
Congratulations on the massacre by the way. :D
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