Judson OR O`Connor

[SVite]

Judson or O`Connor to move on?

[XSVRanger]

I like Judson.

[svhorns]

Like a ROCK-et(chevy)

[RedRage00]

Judson

[MadisonMaverickChick]

J-Rock

[Oskie07]

I don't think O'Connor can hang with Judson - although I thought the same thing last year and O'Connor almost pulled it off !! I just don't think OC has the talent to compete with Judson. Also, the Rockets seem like they might be showing some flashes of the old Judson teams. I would expect a somewhat low scoring game say 21 - 10 Judson. Good luck to both teams and may the best team win !!

[RedRage00]

Judson will roll......My Vipers hung in there with O'Connor and that doesn't say much for O'Connor....

RR

[Oskie07]

RR - I'm suprised to see you say that, but I definitely agree. Victoria is still finding themselves as a program. O'Connor just doesn't have the horses for a deep playoff run. I would be suprised to see O'Connor win. I never thought I would say this, but I hope Judson can regain some of the luster they have enjoyed over the last 20 years or so !! Now that it's playoff time I think they might be bringing their game to the next level - we will see in this game for sure !!

[dwistheman]

Judson should win this one.

The offense is a shadow of it's self compared to last year, but the defense is just as good, maybe even better. If the offense can get things in order it could be a very interesting playoff run.

Who has some insight on this O'Conner squad?

[Oskie07]

I don't know about insight, but I know they have a young team. They have a poised quarterback who is the focus of their offense running and passing. They have a big O-line with decent RB's and receivers. Defensively, they are pretty sound with a stud DE and their secondary is pretty good. They just don't have many playmakers or experience on the team with their youth. They should be more of a force next year.

[ruffshod]

I just gotta roll with my boy Lonny. ;)

[Reaganrattler07]

I'm going with Judson....I think the only good team from 27 is Jay.....

[Haysrebels#1]

I say Judson wins it

[lonny23]

Judson will roll......My Vipers hung in there with O'Connor and that doesn't say much for O'Connor....

RR
I was looking at that game to see how O'Connor would respond. They should've won by more and Judson will take them at home.

Judson 35
O'Connor 10

[lonny23]

RR - I'm suprised to see you say that, but I definitely agree. Victoria is still finding themselves as a program. O'Connor just doesn't have the horses for a deep playoff run. I would be suprised to see O'Connor win. I never thought I would say this, but I hope Judson can regain some of the luster they have enjoyed over the last 20 years or so !! Now that it's playoff time I think they might be bringing their game to the next level - we will see in this game for sure !!
They're getting some of it back.

[lonny23]

Judson should win this one.

The offense is a shadow of it's self compared to last year, but the defense is just as good, maybe even better. If the offense can get things in order it could be a very interesting playoff run.

Who has some insight on this O'Conner squad?
I think the defense is better this year.

[lonny23]

I just gotta roll with my boy Lonny. ;)
You'll be rolling for a while!

[chieftom]

Can someone tell me what happened to #1. He was touted to be a shoein for Div 1 but has not lived up to that potential. He really looked bad on that end around Friday night when he put the ball on the ground and then acted like it was an incomplete pass. Go Rockets!!! We the faithful never count you out till the Fat Lady cranks up.

[clemensbuff]

OC to young to do it this year still! They gave the Rockets one hell of a game last year and it could be a close one again. I think think CJs D is everybit as good as last year and their offense is going to pound it between the tackles like they should have done the entire year! Finally, CJ is getting healthy, and showing it!

Judson 28 OC 14

[dwistheman]

Can someone tell me what happened to #1. He was touted to be a shoein for Div 1 but has not lived up to that potential. He really looked bad on that end around Friday night when he put the ball on the ground and then acted like it was an incomplete pass. Go Rockets!!! We the faithful never count you out till the Fat Lady cranks up.


At times he looks like his head is somewhere else. He is probably the most physically gifted player on the field and definately has D1 talent, but apparently there is something going on because the coaches have not increased his role in the offense. If he were returning punts that would give him more opportunities to make an impact during the game, but they leave that to Tony Harp who is ok and will not muff the punt, but is really not a threat to take it to the house. My guess is they dont trust him and at this point probably never will. :(

[lonny23]

I like Judson.
I kinda like Judson, too! ;)

[mad_fan]

I can tolerate Judson. :)

[Mad Hatter]

i have some inside sources in the loser room and all i have to say is mangold the Offensive coordinator is not liked by the players at all. I dont really like him much either for that matter i think hes a moron. he showed it at the seguin game friday night if u ask me.

[lonny23]

i have some inside sources in the loser room and all i have to say is mangold the Offensive coordinator is not liked by the players at all. I dont really like him much either for that matter i think hes a moron. he showed it at the seguin game friday night if u ask me.
They better reach a medium with him because they're in the middle of the playoffs.

[dwistheman]

i have some inside sources in the loser room and all i have to say is mangold the Offensive coordinator is not liked by the players at all. I dont really like him much either for that matter i think hes a moron. he showed it at the seguin game friday night if u ask me.


Hatter,

What do you mean he showed it at the Seguin game Friday night?

[mad_fan]

i have some inside sources in the loser room and all i have to say is mangold the Offensive coordinator is not liked by the players at all. I dont really like him much either for that matter i think hes a moron. he showed it at the seguin game friday night if u ask me.


They'll graduate and go away! :D

[LoneRocket]

Hopefully if the offense plays well, like they had done against Reagan.

[SVite]

Judson playing at home, Judson stadium?Thats what my wife told me any how! any confirmation?

[dwistheman]

Judson playing at home, Judson stadium?Thats what my wife told me any how! any confirmation?


Game is Friday night in Converse!

[SVite]

Cool I`ll be there, and SV sat. :D

[TexasRed6x]

This game should be interesting. Judson's defense will keep them any game that will be played this year. The question remains about the ofense, and the play calling. I did not thnk they played a very good offense football game on Friday and still have along way to go before anyone should feel they are coming around. I do not believe they have it in them to score 28+ points in any of the upcoming football games that they might be playing in. They ned to do more play acton passes and screen passess if you are going to play them 8 and 9 in the box. You can beat that Padron will have his team fired up for this game, and can make a statement with a victory.

[DiamondJ2]

#1 has been bothered by a bad ankle, which was ovious on the kick-off return for TD and long return against Seguin. Just a nagging injury that will get better when the season is over.

Promis you, Padron will use last year's game in some motivational way. Where, oh, where is a Guy Anderson type QB when you need him?!!!

[OldSCfan]

With Judsons tough defense I think they take this one!!

Judson 21 O'Connor 7.

[CLFalcon2006]

Judson is rollin and that rockets gonna run over O'Conner next

[Rocketman]

well for one Judson is not a passing team and for two he is know to drop alot of passes if he could get to the point that he would hang onto everything thrown at him he would be dangerous but I agree I have felt all year that they should use him every play they can on offense. He has to much talent to be standing on the sideline when its 3rd and 10 but he has this year and I don't know why the coaches are doing that?????

[TexasRed6x]

well for one Judson is not a passing team and for two he is know to drop alot of passes if he could get to the point that he would hang onto everything thrown at him he would be dangerous but I agree I have felt all year that they should use him every play they can on offense. He has to much talent to be standing on the sideline when its 3rd and 10 but he has this year and I don't know why the coaches are doing that?????

Probably because the Judson coaches do not know we have the ball they are so bad.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

No one really cares about 2 average teams other than those 2 teams fans. :)

Have fun with the poll. I didn't vote since i could care less. Judson should win. D1 Region 4 absoultely sucks!! Flowermound would role in that region and they finished 5th in 8-5A. :D

[mad_fan]

No one really cares about 2 average teams other than those 2 teams fans. :)

Have fun with the poll. I didn't vote since i could care less. Judson should win. D1 Region 4 absoultely sucks!! Flowermound would role in that region and they finished 5th in 8-5A. :D


Plano?! R U kiddin'? I'm sending Lee after you!!! No, not that one. San Antonio Lee. :p

[lonny23]

Plano?! R U kiddin'? I'm sending Lee after you!!! No, not that one. San Antonio Lee. :p
His 5th place team in 8-5A would be fighting Lee for last place.

[dragonfootballfan]

No one really cares about 2 average teams other than those 2 teams fans. :)

Have fun with the poll. I didn't vote since i could care less. Judson should win. D1 Region 4 absoultely sucks!! Flowermound would role in that region and they finished 5th in 8-5A. :D
Was this really necessary? I mean I am not from either of these places and I am still interested in both schools and their football. Judson and O'Connor fans continue to post and don't care about Plano Wildcat Fan. I am still wondering why I did not see many plano posters in the last two years?

[mad_fan]

Was this really necessary? I mean I am not from either of these places and I am still interested in both schools and their football. Judson and O'Connor fans continue to post and don't care about Plano Wildcat Fan. I am still wondering why I did not see many plano posters in the last two years?

I knew SLC would come to our rescue!!! :D

[lonny23]

Was this really necessary? I mean I am not from either of these places and I am still interested in both schools and their football. Judson and O'Connor fans continue to post and don't care about Plano Wildcat Fan. I am still wondering why I did not see many plano posters in the last two years?
Thanks for the post. You didn't see Plano fans because they were bad. I don't know what the Plano fans hate about Judson.

[dragonfootballfan]

Thanks for the post. You didn't see Plano fans because they were bad. I don't know what the Plano fans hate about Judson.
The last question that I made was rhetorical. I think that they hate Judson because they are jealous. This is their best team in years and they feel that they would run through Region 4 and will probably be cut down early in Region 1. People do not realize that Region 4 is not the cakewalk people make it out to be. I mean it is probably the weakest region, but it is not that much weaker than all the others.

[lonny23]

The last question that I made was rhetorical. I think that they hate Judson because they are jealous. This is their best team in years and they feel that they would run through Region 4 and will probably be cut down early in Region 1. People do not realize that Region 4 is not the cakewalk people make it out to be. I mean it is probably the weakest region, but it is not that much weaker than all the others.
It is the weakest for overall average, but there are plenty of strong teams in SA. Just getting to the playoffs in 26-5A is a task. R4 wouldn't win a lot of semifinal games if it was that bad.

[LoneRocket]

No one really cares about 2 average teams other than those 2 teams fans. :)

Have fun with the poll. I didn't vote since i could care less. Judson should win. D1 Region 4 absoultely sucks!! Flowermound would role in that region and they finished 5th in 8-5A. :D
I though you said one and done in a previous post?

[lonny23]

I though you said one and done in a previous post?
He thought they'd lose to Seguin.

[maverick#23]

O'Connor will compete unlike Seguin, but I have to go with the 265! Judson was a pre-season top ten pick and they finished in a three way tie (advancing on points) for third in district 26-5A with Regan and Churchill at 4-3. Smithson Valley (loss to Churchill) and Madison (loss to SV) finished at 6-1 and were co-district champions. The 265 will sweep Region 4 in '05!

[SeguinMatadors]

O'Connor will compete unlike Seguin, but I have to go with the 265! Judson was a pre-season top ten pick and they finished in a three way tie (advancing on points) for third in district 26-5A with Regan and Churchill at 4-3. Smithson Valley (loss to Churchill) and Madison (loss to SV) finished at 6-1 and were co-district champions. The 265 will sweep Region 4 in '05!
Didn't know we didn't compete. :confused:

[lonny23]

O'Connor will compete unlike Seguin, but I have to go with the 265! Judson was a pre-season top ten pick and they finished in a three way tie (advancing on points) for third in district 26-5A with Regan and Churchill at 4-3. Smithson Valley (loss to Churchill) and Madison (loss to SV) finished at 6-1 and were co-district champions. The 265 will sweep Region 4 in '05!
Hey, Maverick. You're alright since you're #23. Thanks for the support.

[lonny23]

Didn't know we didn't compete. :confused:
Yes, you guys competed. I know you gave your all. Congrats on making the playoffs 2 straight years. When I got to Converse I used to joke if you guys would even win a game during the year. You're far above that now.

Hey, Bubbacoach. We're smart! :D

[SeguinMatadors]

Yes, you guys competed. I know you gave your all. Congrats on making the playoffs 2 straight years. When I got to Converse I used to joke if you guys would even win a game during the year. You're far above that now.

Hey, Bubbacoach. We're smart! :D

Haha, I have been trying to read some of the post about the game over the weekend while writing a paper. Thanks for taking it fairly easy on me, as well as my 25 5a comrades. Sorry I wasn't here to eat my crow after the game.

[lonny23]

Haha, I have been trying to read some of the post about the game over the weekend while writing a paper. Thanks for taking it fairly easy on me, as well as my 25 5a comrades. Sorry I wasn't here to eat my crow after the game.
I was wondering if you were coming back or not. People usually take it easy on you if you come back and they respect you more. What everybody hates is somebody that talks trash and disappears. I talked so much trash last year that I started the "Razz Lonny" thread myself because I knew it was going to come from all directions of the state! :D

[SeguinMatadors]

I was wondering if you were coming back or not. People usually take it easy on you if you come back and they respect you more. What everybody hates is somebody that talks trash and disappears. I talked so much trash last year that I started the "Razz Lonny" thread myself because I knew it was going to come from all directions of the state! :D

LOL, well at least I didn't get on the bad side of the whole state. That couldn't have been fun.

[lonny23]

LOL, well at least I didn't get on the bad side of the whole state. That couldn't have been fun.
It was risk-reward, because the state would've been fuming if I talked trash all year and Judson won a title. :D Some of these cats wanted Judson to lose almost as much as than they wanted their team to win. I'm talking about the Houston, East Texas, and SLC guys. We're talking Hall of Famers, too! Of course the guys that were so mad at me all year last year like me now.

[lonny23]

LOL, well at least I didn't get on the bad side of the whole state. That couldn't have been fun.
It was a lot of fun at times. We have guys around here with quick fuses and I used to laugh at how mad they would get at times. Sometimes I would throw stuff in just to get a reaction. I got a couple warnings from the KT's because people were mad and thinking about leaving. I never did get banned and called a truce a year ago. Since then, I've just posted like a madman and the fellow posters just came to understand I have a certain style and they don't get mad anymore. I have about 8500 posts in the last year since I stopped fighting.

[mad_fan]

It was a lot of fun at times. We have guys around here with quick fuses and I used to laugh at how mad they would get at times. Sometimes I would throw stuff in just to get a reaction. I got a couple warnings from the KT's because people were mad and thinking about leaving. I never did get banned and called a truce a year ago. Since then, I've just posted like a madman and the fellow posters just came to understand I have a certain style and they don't get mad anymore. I have about 8500 posts in the last year since I stopped fighting.


You're just a troublemaker and bully.

[Pantherfan12]

Gotta love these polls and the comments...Where's Plano anyway? Judson has peaked at the right time...as they always seem to do. OC will compete and if they play the perfect game can win it. That's a big "if" knowing that OC is young....17 Soph's to give you a clue. My question is....Is this Judson's Swan Song as the effect of Wagner HS will really be felt next year? I see the shift in SA rolling towards OC the next couple of years with so many young kids already dressed on Varsity and OC's numbers rolling closer to 3500 students..my heart is with OC...but this game is at Judson..... I'd say Judson 28 - OC 27.9 in 3OT.......Good Luck to both and let's see SA area teams roll through state in both D1 and D2.....


GO PANTHERS......

[mad_fan]

Gotta love these polls and the comments...Where's Plano anyway? Judson has peaked at the right time...as they always seem to do. OC will compete and if they play the perfect game can win it. That's a big "if" knowing that OC is young....17 Soph's to give you a clue. My question is....Is this Judson's Swan Song as the effect of Wagner HS will really be felt next year? I see the shift in SA rolling towards OC the next couple of years with so many young kids already dressed on Varsity and OC's numbers rolling closer to 3500 students..my heart is with OC...but this game is at Judson..... I'd say Judson 28 - OC 27.9 in 3OT.......Good Luck to both and let's see SA area teams roll through state in both D1 and D2.....


GO PANTHERS......


Isn't it like the farthest planet from the earth? :p
Or is that furthest or furtherest or fartherest? :D

[lonny23]

Gotta love these polls and the comments...Where's Plano anyway? Judson has peaked at the right time...as they always seem to do. OC will compete and if they play the perfect game can win it. That's a big "if" knowing that OC is young....17 Soph's to give you a clue. My question is....Is this Judson's Swan Song as the effect of Wagner HS will really be felt next year? I see the shift in SA rolling towards OC the next couple of years with so many young kids already dressed on Varsity and OC's numbers rolling closer to 3500 students..my heart is with OC...but this game is at Judson..... I'd say Judson 28 - OC 27.9 in 3OT.......Good Luck to both and let's see SA area teams roll through state in both D1 and D2.....


GO PANTHERS......
Plano is north of Dallas in the sprawling Collin County.

I don't think the full effect of Wagner will be felt until 2007. Most of the juniors playing sports stayed at Judson and the Rockets will still have a good amount of seniors next year in football.

[lonny23]

Isn't it like the farthest planet from the earth? :p
Or is that furthest or furtherest or fartherest? :D
No, you're thinking of that great philosopher? Or was it Mickey Mouse's dog? :p

[mad_fan]

No, you're thinking of that great philosopher? Or was it Mickey Mouse's dog? :p


I know you are wrong here!!! The question was where? Nobody on here would do dumb enough to ask where's Mickey Mouse's dog? That's just silly. And who knows where the great philosopher is now? Grant's tomb? :D

[lonny23]

I know you are wrong here!!! The question was where? Nobody on here would do dumb enough to ask where's Mickey Mouse's dog? That's just silly. And who knows where the great philosopher is know? Grant's tomb? :D
On this board, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! :D

You know what I'm talking about! It was in direct response to you! ;)

[JudsonVoice]

Judsons "D" is keeping them in these games an awful lot. If the offense can catch up just a little more it should be a very god team for the rest of the playoffs. The Oconnor game should be very good. This game could be a telling point of how could either team will be based on who wins. I give the experience factor to CJ. They have to keep improving in the OConnor and whoever they play from the Valley to be completely ready for region 3.

[WiCkeD PanThER 84]

I'm not gonna lie! I think the OC Panthers have this game on lockdown! Yeah Judson is a good team but there not much anymore without Kyle Fox. Judson is gonna have to step up there A-game if they want to win. They're playing a team with a super strong defense and an offense that can move the ball every down. Judson might as well move there defensive backs to offense because the offense isn't gonna help. Oh and the Victoria Vipers, did you see the size of those guys compared to ours? And our boys still threw the Vipers a beating. Besides last years team almost pulled off a win against Judson, so there is no doubt in my mind they will do it this year. Coach Padron along with the other coaching staff, knows what needs to be done. So the only place the Judson Rockets will be blasting off to is back home to end their season. Sorry, you guys have a good team but just looking out for numero uno. The Panthers are coming and there bringing hell with em'!!

Good Luck to Both Teams

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I though you said one and done in a previous post?

I did say that before the brackets came out. However, once the brackets came out and saw how really bad and average your region was, I thought my gosh Judson could even win a game. :)

Don't be thumping your Rocket Parts to much with a first round win. :D

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Was this really necessary? I mean I am not from either of these places and I am still interested in both schools and their football. Judson and O'Connor fans continue to post and don't care about Plano Wildcat Fan. I am still wondering why I did not see many plano posters in the last two years?

I forgot this is a sacred site of Texas Football. I thought I could have a little fun with this. Good shot on the last two years. Hell, its been 5 years.

Anyway , When your car gets Keyed and you get spit on going to game by bunch of Judson students and called some really nice expletives just becasue you are wearing a Plano Wildcat shirt then you might understand my good natured ribbing. Don't have a high regard for Judson Sprockets :rolleyes:

Do you live in Southlake? If so is it true that all homes are required to have a live in :D maid?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Thanks for the post. You didn't see Plano fans because they were bad. I don't know what the Plano fans hate about Judson.

It's not all just one. :D In fact most people outside the Judson ISD don't really care about the rockets. Believe or not :eek:

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Gotta love these polls and the comments...Where's Plano anyway? Judson has peaked at the right time...as they always seem to do. OC will compete and if they play the perfect game can win it. That's a big "if" knowing that OC is young....17 Soph's to give you a clue. My question is....Is this Judson's Swan Song as the effect of Wagner HS will really be felt next year? I see the shift in SA rolling towards OC the next couple of years with so many young kids already dressed on Varsity and OC's numbers rolling closer to 3500 students..my heart is with OC...but this game is at Judson..... I'd say Judson 28 - OC 27.9 in 3OT.......Good Luck to both and let's see SA area teams roll through state in both D1 and D2.....


GO PANTHERS......
WHERE's Plano anyway? It's about 10 rungs up the economic ladder from where you are in San Antonio :D

[corpusaggie]

Haha...Plano? Your kidding me right? When was the last time anyone heard of a Plano team taking any kind of 5A championship? Yah, ya'll may have piles of money burning in your front lawns, but when it comes to some kick *** Mexican food, San Antonio makes all of you tea-sippin hippies blush. Secondly, what ya'll Judson fans know about the OC Boys? These aren't your everyday high school football players. No, no these are corn-fed, copenhagen spittin, serve your *** in a 5A championship kind of boys. I would know, I used to be an OC Boy myself. So you thugs from Judson can go on and on about your lowriders and what happened in last years game, but just remember, Judson is gonna get their ***** served to them on a platter!

[dwistheman]

Haha...Plano? Your kidding me right? When was the last time anyone heard of a Plano team taking any kind of 5A championship? Yah, ya'll may have piles of money burning in your front lawns, but when it comes to some kick *** Mexican food, San Antonio makes all of you tea-sippin hippies blush. Secondly, what ya'll Judson fans know about the OC Boys? These aren't your everyday high school football players. No, no these are corn-fed, copenhagen spittin, serve your *** in a 5A championship kind of boys. I would know, I used to be an OC Boy myself. So you thugs from Judson can go on and on about your lowriders and what happened in last years game, but just remember, Judson is gonna get their ***** served to them on a platter!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nice drive by on the first post. We will see if you are still around come Friday night! :eek:

[Rerun]

J-Rock

Exactly. Big time also. 3 TD's or more.

[LoneRocket]

I did say that before the brackets came out. However, once the brackets came out and saw how really bad and average your region was, I thought my gosh Judson could even win a game. :)

Don't be thumping your Rocket Parts to much with a first round win. :D
Mr. Cat if you read my previous posts I never had thump my "Rocket Parts", how does your team look in this up coming round?

[LoneRocket]

I'm not gonna lie! I think the OC Panthers have this game on lockdown! Yeah Judson is a good team but there not much anymore without Kyle Fox. Judson is gonna have to step up there A-game if they want to win. They're playing a team with a super strong defense and an offense that can move the ball every down. Judson might as well move there defensive backs to offense because the offense isn't gonna help. Oh and the Victoria Vipers, did you see the size of those guys compared to ours? And our boys still threw the Vipers a beating. Besides last years team almost pulled off a win against Judson, so there is no doubt in my mind they will do it this year. Coach Padron along with the other coaching staff, knows what needs to be done. So the only place the Judson Rockets will be blasting off to is back home to end their season. Sorry, you guys have a good team but just looking out for numero uno. The Panthers are coming and there bringing hell with em'!!

Good Luck to Both Teams
I believe they are not going to take your team lightly. Coach Malesky's is coming home to step on the field at Judson Stadium since his fierce line backing days.

[bubbacoach]

Plano plays in a weak district that was below .500 on the season if you take Plano's record out and just .500 if you include thier record. They are proud that they have their 10-0 record against weak teams, just like Clemens was. When it comes playoff time, it is time to put up or shut up regardless os your record, and I believe SGP will shut them up and they will go away to count the change in their pockets. It must be great to look in the mirror and see the reflection of a program that was a long time ago decent and is finally having a decent year again. They will realize that they are not ready to play with the big boys soon enough and then we can give them hell. but until then let them believe what they want, after all what would the world be without dreams. Let them dream, SGP will turn it into a nightmare, and they will have to wake up and realize that beating a bunch of JV teams will not take you deep into the 5A playoffs. SLC if you are looking in your rearview mirror at Plano, do not worry images are not closer that they appear in this case.

[bubbacoach]

I was previously at Judson, I know their coaches, and now I keep up with them. Do I want Judson to win? Yes. Do I think it will be easy? No. O'Connor is a young team, but a very well coached team. I would compare the way they are coached to the way SV is coached. They will play hard, make few mistakes, and capitalize on your mistakes. Do not ever say that O'Connor does not have a chance going into a game.

[PantherFan70]

I was previously at Judson, I know their coaches, and now I keep up with them. Do I want Judson to win? Yes. Do I think it will be easy? No. O'Connor is a young team, but a very well coached team. I would compare the way they are coached to the way SV is coached. They will play hard, make few mistakes, and capitalize on your mistakes. Do not ever say that O'Connor does not have a chance going into a game.

I like your thinking Bubba. Even though you are for Judson I still like the way you think! First person for Judson to actually say to not count O'Connor out!

[lonny23]

I like your thinking Bubba. Even though you are for Judson I still like the way you think! First person for Judson to actually say to not count O'Connor out!
I said it, too. I'm not stupid because I know Padron can coach. He used to be at Judson and that's always dangerous.

[Rerun]

Didn't O'Connor give a good game to Judson last year?

I would think it would be close but Judson is rolling right now.

Their offense is clicking and their defense is cliking and it couldn't have come at a better time.

I like Judson by 3 or more TD's.

Besides, O'Connor was down this year compared to last year.

[lonny23]

Didn't O'Connor give a good game to Judson last year?

I would think it would be close but Judson is rolling right now.

Their offense is clicking and their defense is clinking and it couldn't have come at a better time.

I like Judson by 3 or more TD's.

Besides, O'Connor was down this year compared to last year.
Judson basically outscored them last year. O'Connor wouldn't give up, but they couldn't stop Fox, either.

[PantherFan70]

I said it, too. I'm not stupid because I know Padron can coach. He used to be at Judson and that's always dangerous.

Lonny, I like your thinking too!

[PantherFan70]

Didn't O'Connor give a good game to Judson last year?

I would think it would be close but Judson is rolling right now.

Their offense is clicking and their defense is cliking and it couldn't have come at a better time.

I like Judson by 3 or more TD's.

Besides, O'Connor was down this year compared to last year.

I would'nt say down this year, I prefer to think of it as Expierence challenged :p

If O'Connor can stop the run, which they really haven't proven they can do every game and force Judson to use their passing game, O'Connor should be able to pull out the win, Thats a BIG "if" for the defense though

[WiCkeD PanThER 84]

Haha...Plano? Your kidding me right? When was the last time anyone heard of a Plano team taking any kind of 5A championship? Yah, ya'll may have piles of money burning in your front lawns, but when it comes to some kick *** Mexican food, San Antonio makes all of you tea-sippin hippies blush. Secondly, what ya'll Judson fans know about the OC Boys? These aren't your everyday high school football players. No, no these are corn-fed, copenhagen spittin, serve your *** in a 5A championship kind of boys. I would know, I used to be an OC Boy myself. So you thugs from Judson can go on and on about your lowriders and what happened in last years game, but just remember, Judson is gonna get their ***** served to them on a platter!

Whoever this islander dude is? I like the way you think!! I'm glad you can step up and back the OC boys! Plus its true, these boys have been playing ball together since they were younglings. They know what to do and they saw Judson in action last year. Plus I saw Judson last year when i was on the field and yeah yall are good but this year its time for a new champion. Don't underestimate the Panthers, because every season the papers and sports articles never say anything about O'Connor because they're considered the underdogs. And what has happened the past three years "DISTRICT CHAMPS" Its gonna be a good game!!

[Pantherfan12]

WHERE's Plano anyway? It's about 10 rungs up the economic ladder from where you are in San Antonio :D
Give me a break....You didn't need to go down that path....Clean it up

[WiCkeD PanThER 84]

This uh Mr. Kitty cat guy from...is it plano? I um.. haven't heard much about yall this season. Do you think your some kind of big deal maybe? Because if yall were yall may get som credit from somebody but i haven't heard much about plainview....oh i'm sorry not plainview. that would be a compliment, probably because plainview probably has a better team than you. I'm sorry i meant Plano. Oh and by the way um, San antonio being such a rag tag city like you think it is i would just be thankful that yall haven't had to play a northside team because then they would probably show was 5a football is all about. BOTA BOOM BOTA BANG!

[Rocketman05]

Judson by 21
Judson's defense is better than they were last year. Lead by a group of seniors including: Sobers, Jackson, Harp, and Houston. Also, the offense is starting to come around. At the beginning of the season we lost all-city OG Adolph Perez, then first play against Churchill we lost OT Marcus Dimando. Now with both of them healthy the running game will be able to flourish. About Derrick Williams #1, I don’t know why Rackley refuses to throw the ball to him he is tall enough to get over many defensive backs. I don’t think the problem is DW catching the ball, its Bouldin getting the ball to him for a game breaking play. If you watch Judson they do pass, but many of their passes are very short, and give the receiver room to make yards instead of Bouldin having to throw the ball that far. Don’t get me wrong I think Bouldin is a good QB, he is only a junior, and sometimes makes junior mistakes. This is the first year I have seen Judson have so many RB's. They are not very set at one RB, but they have Mendoza at full back and he is playing his heart out, gaining 5 yards when it looks like a loss. If the offense can start playing at the ROCKET LEVEL then you will defiantly see them in the state semis.
PEACE,
ROCKETMAN05

[clemensbuff]

The last question that I made was rhetorical. I think that they hate Judson because they are jealous. This is their best team in years and they feel that they would run through Region 4 and will probably be cut down early in Region 1. People do not realize that Region 4 is not the cakewalk people make it out to be. I mean it is probably the weakest region, but it is not that much weaker than all the others.

What if you removed the Valley, Corpus Cristi, and Laredo teams from the picture? Then I would think that R4 is at or near the top of the toughest. And really, what do those teams even mean when they rarely, if never make it out of the region (4a excluded of course, CC Calallen)!

[clemensbuff]

Haha, I have been trying to read some of the post about the game over the weekend while writing a paper. Thanks for taking it fairly easy on me, as well as my 25 5a comrades. Sorry I wasn't here to eat my crow after the game.

Don't worry about that Mat, I ate plenty of it for you. It tasted like S--t too! :eek:

[clemensbuff]

It was a lot of fun at times. We have guys around here with quick fuses and I used to laugh at how mad they would get at times. Sometimes I would throw stuff in just to get a reaction. I got a couple warnings from the KT's because people were mad and thinking about leaving. I never did get banned and called a truce a year ago. Since then, I've just posted like a madman and the fellow posters just came to understand I have a certain style and they don't get mad anymore. I have about 8500 posts in the last year since I stopped fighting.

I do, you royal pain in the A$$! LOL :D

[clemensbuff]

I'm not gonna lie! I think the OC Panthers have this game on lockdown! Yeah Judson is a good team but there not much anymore without Kyle Fox. Judson is gonna have to step up there A-game if they want to win. They're playing a team with a super strong defense and an offense that can move the ball every down. Judson might as well move there defensive backs to offense because the offense isn't gonna help. Oh and the Victoria Vipers, did you see the size of those guys compared to ours? And our boys still threw the Vipers a beating. Besides last years team almost pulled off a win against Judson, so there is no doubt in my mind they will do it this year. Coach Padron along with the other coaching staff, knows what needs to be done. So the only place the Judson Rockets will be blasting off to is back home to end their season. Sorry, you guys have a good team but just looking out for numero uno. The Panthers are coming and there bringing hell with em'!!

Good Luck to Both Teams

That stuff grows good and strong in the rocks of Helotes, doesn't it? OC has a super strong defense? Didn't JJ hang 42 on them just a little over a week ago?

[PantherFan70]

Judson by 21
Judson's defense is better than they were last year. Lead by a group of seniors including: Sobers, Jackson, Harp, and Houston. Also, the offense is starting to come around. At the beginning of the season we lost all-city OG Adolph Perez, then first play against Churchill we lost OT Marcus Dimando. Now with both of them healthy the running game will be able to flourish. About Derrick Williams #1, I don’t know why Rackley refuses to throw the ball to him he is tall enough to get over many defensive backs. I don’t think the problem is DW catching the ball, its Bouldin getting the ball to him for a game breaking play. If you watch Judson they do pass, but many of their passes are very short, and give the receiver room to make yards instead of Bouldin having to throw the ball that far. Don’t get me wrong I think Bouldin is a good QB, he is only a junior, and sometimes makes junior mistakes. This is the first year I have seen Judson have so many RB's. They are not very set at one RB, but they have Mendoza at full back and he is playing his heart out, gaining 5 yards when it looks like a loss. If the offense can start playing at the ROCKET LEVEL then you will defiantly see them in the state semis.
PEACE,
ROCKETMAN05

Do Perez and Dimando both play on the same side or opposite sides?

[PantherFan70]

That stuff grows good and strong in the rocks of Helotes, doesn't it? OC has a super strong defense? Didn't JJ hang 42 on them just a little over a week ago?

They sure did and Boerne hung 38 on them a couple weeks before that. :D I think OC thought the streak would play for them. They had to learn that the hard way. But better to get 40+ hung on you and lose in the Season than get 40+ hung on you and lose in the playoffs :D Sorry could'nt resist, but I might be singing the same tune as you come friday night when the clock hits zero :(

[clemensbuff]

Whoever this islander dude is? I like the way you think!! I'm glad you can step up and back the OC boys! Plus its true, these boys have been playing ball together since they were younglings. They know what to do and they saw Judson in action last year. Plus I saw Judson last year when i was on the field and yeah yall are good but this year its time for a new champion. Don't underestimate the Panthers, because every season the papers and sports articles never say anything about O'Connor because they're considered the underdogs. And what has happened the past three years "DISTRICT CHAMPS" Its gonna be a good game!!

Oh really? I thought that I read quite a bit about OC this year and the longest district winning streak in the area. Maybe I'm confused, but I didn't see a whole lot of ragging on OC when JJ broke that streak! When was OC considered the underdog? When you play SV, Madison, CJ? That is the only time that I've seen them as an underdog.

You are a young little whipper snapper that is quick to pop off at the mouth! Keep talking this smack and I'm sure that the Rockets Trainer will print some of it out to post in the fieldhouse before the game!

OC does stand a chance in this game, but if they make any mistakes at all, CJ will cash in on them, and visa versa. OC is young and I beleive this will show this week. However, on the other hand, the future definately looks bright for Helotes.

[PantherFan70]

Oh really? I thought that I read quite a bit about OC this year and the longest district winning streak in the area. Maybe I'm confused, but I didn't see a whole lot of ragging on OC when JJ broke that streak! When was OC considered the underdog? When you play SV, Madison, CJ? That is the only time that I've seen them as an underdog.

You are a young little whipper snapper that is quick to pop off at the mouth! Keep talking this smack and I'm sure that the Rockets Trainer will print some of it out to post in the fieldhouse before the game!

OC does stand a chance in this game, but if they make any mistakes at all, CJ will cash in on them, and visa versa. OC is young and I beleive this will show this week. However, on the other hand, the future definately looks bright for Helotes.

That is correct! I was excited that for the first time OC was starting to be recognized! I knew we were young and we have showed it a lot this season and I'm glad we are where we are at. as for the guy doing all that talking ( not wicked (but you could tone it down), the other one) he was probably one of the guys that was on the bench all year and this is how he gets his "Playing" in so that he feels good about himself, Apparently he wasn't a real listener of what Padron teaches. Besides I don't think OC has the right to talk smack until we get the BIG win, until then all we really can do is support our team and defend them, but not talk trash.

[clemensbuff]

They sure did and Boerne hung 38 on them a couple weeks before that. :D I think OC thought the streak would play for them. They had to learn that the hard way. But better to get 40+ hung on you and lose in the Season than get 40+ hung on you and lose in the playoffs :D Sorry could'nt resist, but I might be singing the same tune as you come friday night when the clock hits zero :(

You are exactly right about the best time to have 40+ hung on you. But, a couple of the Panther's fans here are posting pure crap!!! I've been reading your posts and all I can say is that I enjoy what you have to say. We've all got some of those idiots that post crap, but low and behold the couple that were doing that here last week that were SC fans are nowhere to be found! I wonder why? LOL :confused:

[clemensbuff]

That is correct! I was excited that for the first time OC was starting to be recognized! I knew we were young and we have showed it a lot this season and I'm glad we are where we are at. as for the guy doing all that talking ( not wicked (but you could tone it down), the other one) he was probably one of the guys that was on the bench all year and this is how he gets his "Playing" in so that he feels good about himself, Apparently he wasn't a real listenener of what Padron teaches. Besides I don't think OC has the right to talk smack until we get the BIG win, until then all we really can do is support our team and defend them.

Like I said in the previous post, I enjoy what you have to say because you tell it like it is and don't talk crap! I also like what I see in OC's near future with all that young talent and Padron to stoke it! I really do think that OC can give CJ a heck of a game this week, but they cannot make mistakes or give up yardage in big chunks and expect to win!

[PantherFan70]

You are exactly right about the best time to have 40+ hung on you. But, a couple of the Panther's fans here are posting pure crap!!! I've been reading your posts and all I can say is that I enjoy what you have to say. We've all got some of those idiots that post crap, but low and behold the couple that were doing that here last week that were SC fans are nowhere to be found! I wonder why? LOL :confused:

Well, I'll be here win or lose this Friday! You can count on that! I know when I started reading those posts It made me sick! But you always have those few

[PantherFan70]

Clemensbuff, Did you see that nice slideshow on the post your football pics thread of Madison and Clemens? Looks pretty nice!

[Rerun]

Let's not forget what happened to the last time Clemens and O'C met in the post season.

O'C big bad awesome QB got slammed with the rest of the Panthers.

Let's not get off topic here guys. Clemens is done as is the rest of 25-5A.

The only reason 27-5A is still alive is because they got to play the CC schools in the opening round.

SA Area 3A Teams > CCISD Varsity Teams

Any JV team from 26-5A or Clemens, Seguin, or San Marcos could have handled 28-5A.

[Rocketman05]

PantherFan70

Perez and Dimando play on different sides of the line.

[PantherFan70]

Let's not forget what happened to the last time Clemens and O'C met in the post season.

O'C big bad awesome QB got slammed with the rest of the Panthers.

Let's not get off topic here guys. Clemens is done as is the rest of 25-5A.

The only reason 27-5A is still alive is because they got to play the CC schools in the opening round.

SA Area 3A Teams > CCISD Varsity Teams

Any JV team from 26-5A or Clemens, Seguin, or San Marcos could have handled 28-5A.

Whoever said we forgot? I didn't. Besides didn't anybody think OC was going to get past HAys that year either? They were bound to lose sooner than later, but that was a deep run for a team being in the playoffs for the first time ever. But I believe Madison beat both Judson and O'Connor this year correct? and by looking at these games beacuase they were playing the same opponent I would measure the game as a really good matchup. OC just showed the youth when they fumbled at MAdisons five yd line with a minute left in the game. I think if Clemens didn't have the turnovers they had I'm sure the game would have been a different game. not saying Clemens would have won, but it would have been a different game.

[PantherFan70]

PantherFan70

Perez and Dimando play on different sides of the line.

Glad to see Perez is back. I'm sure he wanted to be on the field all year!!! How big is Judson's offensive line this year? Last year they were pretty good sized is it the same this year?

[PaulinPlano]

Home Field Advantage.

[PantherFan70]

Home Field Advantage.

ain't that the truth! They sure aren't making this easy!

[Rocketman05]

The O-Line:
OT. Dominique Woods:270
OG. Chris Crockett:220
OG. Adolph Perez:302
OT. Marcus Dimando:305
C. Aaron Caudell:230

[clemensbuff]

Clemensbuff, Did you see that nice slideshow on the post your football pics thread of Madison and Clemens? Looks pretty nice!

I haven't seen them. Where are the pics at?

[PantherFan70]

The O-Line:
OT. Dominique Woods:270
OG. Chris Crockett:220
OG. Adolph Perez:302
OT. Marcus Dimando:305
C. Aaron Caudell:230

I see they are still some pretty good sized boys. If anyone was wondering OC's O-line is:

RT - 6' 1" 280
RG - 5' 10" 235
C - 6' 255
LG - 6' 3 250
LT - 6' 3 260

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Mr. Cat if you read my previous posts I never had thump my "Rocket Parts", how does your team look in this up coming round?

Two evenly matched teams in SGP and Plano. Team who has the fewest turnovers and penalites and does better on special teams will win. My money is on Plano.

[clemensbuff]

Whoever said we forgot? I didn't. Besides didn't anybody think OC was going to get past HAys that year either? They were bound to lose sooner than later, but that was a deep run for a team being in the playoffs for the first time ever. But I believe Madison beat both Judson and O'Connor this year correct? and by looking at these games beacuase they were playing the same opponent I would measure the game as a really good matchup. OC just showed the youth when they fumbled at MAdisons five yd line with a minute left in the game. I think if Clemens didn't have the turnovers they had I'm sure the game would have been a different game. not saying Clemens would have won, but it would have been a different game.

You are correct, the run OC made in 03' was very impressive for such a young school! And the game that they played last year against CJ was also impressive. I don't think anyone but the OC players, coaches, and fans were expecting that!

You are correct about the TOs in our game with Madison. What did Bucky or was it Bubba say, woulda, coulda, shoulda! LOl Hey, that's the breaks of the game if you don't take care of the ball, period. If Madison had turned it over 5 times and we had a 97 yd KO return for a TD, guess what, our kids would be at practice right now! All of this is part of the game, and if you don't come to play you will get your A$$ handed to you by the other team in the playoffs!

[clemensbuff]

Two evenly matched teams in SGP and Plano. Team who has the fewest turnovers and penalites and does better on special teams will win. My money is on Plano.

I sure wish someone had told our boys that last week before the Madison game! LOL You are exactly right.

[PantherFan70]

I haven't seen them. Where are the pics at?
The thread titled: " Post your Football Photos"

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano plays in a weak district that was below .500 on the season if you take Plano's record out and just .500 if you include thier record. They are proud that they have their 10-0 record against weak teams, just like Clemens was. When it comes playoff time, it is time to put up or shut up regardless os your record, and I believe SGP will shut them up and they will go away to count the change in their pockets. It must be great to look in the mirror and see the reflection of a program that was a long time ago decent and is finally having a decent year again. They will realize that they are not ready to play with the big boys soon enough and then we can give them hell. but until then let them believe what they want, after all what would the world be without dreams. Let them dream, SGP will turn it into a nightmare, and they will have to wake up and realize that beating a bunch of JV teams will not take you deep into the 5A playoffs. SLC if you are looking in your rearview mirror at Plano, do not worry images are not closer that they appear in this case.

Bubba is a perfect name for you. Might want to rethink your opinion concernng 8-5A . You have 3 schools with State Champions . All 3 teams won last week in the playoffs. 6 of the 8 teams were 5-5 or higer. Only Lewisville and Colony blew. They were a combined 1-19. That skews the entire district.
You just need to be man enough to give Plano props when they win on Saturday. I'll be looking!! :cool:

[WiCkeD PanThER 84]

Hey guys i don't mean to be talking trash if thats the way it sounds but like i said O'Connor usually has to work for what they earn. Like the Marshall Rams, everybody said they would be awesome and that they were state ranked and look what happened. Then OC wasn't going to be any good because they were so young, and they ended up coming through this season. So i mean no disrespect towards Judson. Yall have a good team. And yes John Jay did pretty much slap us in the face but doesn't that happen to every team. Like Clemens... i bet yall weren't expecting to lose to madison. Of all teams. It just goes to show that every season is unpredictable. :o

[DiamondJ2]

WP, very few people believed that the Rockets would make the playoffs after the Madison loss, but for the last two district games and Seguin game, Judson was the healthy for the 1st time since week 2. As I stated before not many teams could survive with 7-9 starters out for 5-6 games. Yes, the Rockets have struggled on offense, but the potential and capability is still there to explode. If they play with the intensity shown in the Reagan game, then Judson should win at least the next two games.

Coach Padron has done a fantastic job at OC. He will have those Panthers ready for Friday. Just be forewarned that teams have 10 TO's against Judson over the last 3 games.

[PantherFan70]

WP, very few people believed that the Rockets would make the playoffs after the Madison loss, but for the last two district games and Seguin game, Judson was the healthy for the 1st time since week 2. As I stated before not many teams could survive with 7-9 starters out for 5-6 games. Yes, the Rockets have struggled on offense, but the potential and capability is still there to explode. If they play with the intensity shown in the Reagan game, then Judson should win at least the next two games.

Coach Padron has done a fantastic job at OC. He will have those Panthers ready for Friday. Just be forewarned that teams have 10 TO's against Judson over the last 3 games.

OC has been playing with about 7 guys out for the past 5-6 weeks, so I guess both of the teams are finally getting healthy. Should be a good game with no excuses for the loser of this game. Thats a pretty stiff stat 10 TO's thats something to look out for! I can't wait!!!

[Bucky]

Bubba is a perfect name for you. Might want to rethink your opinion concernng 8-5A . You have 3 schools with State Champions . All 3 teams won last week in the playoffs. 6 of the 8 teams were 5-5 or higer. Only Lewisville and Colony blew. They were a combined 1-19. That skews the entire district.
You just need to be man enough to give Plano props when they win on Saturday. I'll be looking!! :cool:


So basically, everything Bubba said is true...right. I'm sure if Plano does win..Im sure Bubba will not disappear. I m pretty sure he will have another team up his sleeve that will beat you guys. Bubba really is a good name for him. As a matter of fact if you see him in the stands you will know who he is right away!! He is the big guy with his shirt off and a diamond J painted on his bald head!!! So take your million dollar spending $100,000 makin butt back to the plano threads where someone will care what you have to say!!

[Bucky]

Judson will have to get it going on offense to win this game. O'Connor has a pretty good offense but I dont think their defense is all that good. Its good to see the Rockets running the ball again. man it was a long 8 weeks watching them try to throw the ball. It was like Bo Jackson mate with Rosanne. It just didnt look good and who wants to watch that!! Now I see the Rockets playing more like a Rocket team should. They are still not all that they should be but they are getting better...and that is the Rocket way! Good Luck..Im not gonna predict a winner or a score because everytime I have done that this season the Rockets didnt do so hot. One other thing to consider is that Coach Padron wont doesnt know the new coaches and all the new things like he knew last year. Padron knew Judsons offense and defense inside out. He is gonna have a lot more guessing this year than he did last year.

[bubbacoach]

So basically, everything Bubba said is true...right. I'm sure if Plano does win..Im sure Bubba will not disappear. I m pretty sure he will have another team up his sleeve that will beat you guys. Bubba really is a good name for him. As a matter of fact if you see him in the stands you will know who he is right away!! He is the big guy with his shirt off and a diamond J painted on his bald head!!! So take your million dollar spending $100,000 makin butt back to the plano threads where someone will care what you have to say!!
I am pretty sure that there are 4 schools a greater number than 3 that have won state championships. So that means 26-5A is better than 8-5A if you use the plainold's (PLANO) way of thinking. Yes, I am the big bald guy, I do not take my shirt off though, I would be afraid someone would call in with an incredible Hulk sighting.

[mad_fan]

I sure wish someone had told our boys that last week before the Madison game! LOL You are exactly right.


Plano guy was talking about two evenly matched teams...If I recall correctly, Madison was no match for Clemens. :p :D

[bubbacoach]

Plain Old and the boy's in 8-5A may see a broom this weekend.
Let's look at it. South Grand Prairie 10-1 vs. Plain Old 11-0; Euless Trinity 10-1 vs. Plain Old East 6-5: and SLC 11-0 vs. Allen 9-2. To steal a line from Lonny, YOU ARE FIRED 8-5A. I think their will be a broom in your near future. I will not disappear.

[clemensbuff]

Plano guy was talking about two evenly matched teams...If I recall correctly, Madison was no match for Clemens. :p :D

Last Friday night at least! :p I think they were pretty evenly matched, at least if you read the stats. Only one yard of offense seperated them at the end. The big overmatched stat was the 5 TOs and the 97 YD KO return! :(

[bubbacoach]

Is there a stat that matters more than the final score in the end? :confused:

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

So basically, everything Bubba said is true...right. I'm sure if Plano does win..Im sure Bubba will not disappear. I m pretty sure he will have another team up his sleeve that will beat you guys. Bubba really is a good name for him. As a matter of fact if you see him in the stands you will know who he is right away!! He is the big guy with his shirt off and a diamond J painted on his bald head!!! So take your million dollar spending $100,000 makin butt back to the plano threads where someone will care what you have to say!!

Buck!! PLease no generalizations about my spending habits. I am a finanically responsible individual. I promise I don't spend a million dollars year. I make a nice living and live within my means.

I just would like Bubba to take his medicine when Plano wins on Saturday. :D

[PantherFan70]

I thought this was interesting....

O'Connor's RB has rushed for 760 yds as a RB

He has played 6 games at Running back and 4 of those games are 100+ yds or more. Also he has carried the ball 103 times. Thats 7.3 yds/carry. I'd say thats pretty good for a converted QB. Remember these numbers are for him just at RB, they don't count the 3 games in the non district play when he rotated as QB.

[bubbacoach]

Buck!! PLease no generalizations about my spending habits. I am a finanically responsible individual. I promise I don't spend a million dollars year. I make a nice living and live within my means.

I just would like Bubba to take his medicine when Plano wins on Saturday. :D
I'LL TAKE WHATEVER MEDICINE YOU HAVE! BUT I WANT TO HEAR HOW THE BROOM SOUNDED AS IT MOVED THROUGH YOUR 8-5A

[lonny23]

Plain Old and the boy's in 8-5A may see a broom this weekend.
Let's look at it. South Grand Prairie 10-1 vs. Plain Old 11-0; Euless Trinity 10-1 vs. Plain Old East 6-5: and SLC 11-0 vs. Allen 9-2. To steal a line from Lonny, YOU ARE FIRED 8-5A. I think their will be a broom in your near future. I will not disappear.
2 more days until the latest round of firings start. I have to go hiking and won't be around during the game. Don't look for me until sometime early Saturday morning your time.

[clemensbuff]

2 more days until the latest round of firings start. I have to go hiking and won't be around during the game. Don't look for me until sometime early Saturday morning your time.

Are ya'll going to have a camp fire and tell stories too? Seriously, keep your damn head down and your eyes open! Hope you have a safe walk!

[DiamondJ2]

Rockets offense during the season did bog down and the team lost 4 games. During 3 of those losses the Rockets were playing without 7-9 starters. For the last 3 games Judson has outscored its opponents 80-13 with 6-7 of those starters back. Judson's defense during that same span has allowed opponents an average of 130 yards total offense, plus opponents fumbles or interceptions totaling 15 with Judson recovering or picks in 10 of those. O'Connor hasn't faced a defense like Judson's. If OC
attempts to pass get ready for INT's and the RB's better hang on tight to that pigskin. Reagan had an outstanding RB also, but after 2-3 fumbles, he was pulled.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I am pretty sure that there are 4 schools a greater number than 3 that have won state championships. So that means 26-5A is better than 8-5A if you use the plainold's (PLANO) way of thinking. Yes, I am the big bald guy, I do not take my shirt off though, I would be afraid someone would call in with an incredible Hulk sighting.

If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :eek:

[jrp83]

If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :eek:
Did you mean "won state championships", because you typed "one state championships". Now I'm sure it's just a typo, but I recall some poster from Plano heavily criticizing Judson's educational system because a Judson fan posted a message using slang. Just something to think about. And yes, Lewisville did hang one on the Rockets in the '96 state title game, but Judson gave Plano just as good a whooping in '93 as well. Go Rockets!!

[dwistheman]

If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :eek:


FYI

Lee, Churchill, and Roosevelt have all won titles in the past. :cool:

[LoneRocket]

If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :eek:
Like Judson Spanked Plano? That team that Lewisville beat was kind of like this years Judson team. No stand out player(s) just a group of guys who went to work and they had some excellent coaching that took them so far. Mac and SV made it to the big game and Madison made it to the sems.

[Bucky]

If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :eek:


The funny part of this is that Judson has 6 of their own. I think 9 total in the district. Lonny...stats please...Judson vs Plano in the Texas 5A state playoffs. Who has the better numbers. Who has won more championships and been to the finals more..semi's more...come on I know you have it!!


I believe Lewisville spanked Judson Pretty bold/stupid statement from a guy in Plano...dont you think.

My only question is this.....What do you a dumba$$ from Plano Texas............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....You call him a Plano Dumba$$!!! Good Luck to all still playing!!!

[ruffshod]

Close early, Judson pulls away late. 28-17

[SVite]

O'Connor will compete unlike Seguin, but I have to go with the 265! Judson was a pre-season top ten pick and they finished in a three way tie (advancing on points) for third in district 26-5A with Regan and Churchill at 4-3. Smithson Valley (loss to Churchill) and Madison (loss to SV) finished at 6-1 and were co-district champions. The 265 will sweep Region 4 in '05!

There was no co-champions! SV won it!Just like Judson won third,if they didnt,the uil would`nt let them in the offs.

[SVite]

Gotta love these polls and the comments...Where's Plano anyway? Judson has peaked at the right time...as they always seem to do. OC will compete and if they play the perfect game can win it. That's a big "if" knowing that OC is young....17 Soph's to give you a clue. My question is....Is this Judson's Swan Song as the effect of Wagner HS will really be felt next year? I see the shift in SA rolling towards OC the next couple of years with so many young kids already dressed on Varsity and OC's numbers rolling closer to 3500 students..my heart is with OC...but this game is at Judson..... I'd say Judson 28 - OC 27.9 in 3OT.......Good Luck to both and let's see SA area teams roll through state in both D1 and D2.....


GO PANTHERS......



Wow,i have never heard of that many sophs. on a varsity team before!

[Mad Hatter]

acctually Madison and Sv are co Champions u have the little tie breaker thingy but they are co champions....dont feel bad hardly anyone ever win s this district out right.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

The funny part of this is that Judson has 6 of their own. I think 9 total in the district. Lonny...stats please...Judson vs Plano in the Texas 5A state playoffs. Who has the better numbers. Who has won more championships and been to the finals more..semi's more...come on I know you have it!!


I believe Lewisville spanked Judson Pretty bold/stupid statement from a guy in Plano...dont you think.

My only question is this.....What do you a dumba$$ from Plano Texas............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....You call him a Plano Dumba$$!!! Good Luck to all still playing!!!

Isn't it true. Didn't Lewisville run over Judson? Yes they did. I guess hearing the truth that Judson did lose and lose badly gets you upset and you have to result to calling me names. You can do better than that.

[SVite]

I'm not gonna lie! I think the OC Panthers have this game on lockdown! Yeah Judson is a good team but there not much anymore without Kyle Fox. Judson is gonna have to step up there A-game if they want to win. They're playing a team with a super strong defense and an offense that can move the ball every down. Judson might as well move there defensive backs to offense because the offense isn't gonna help. Oh and the Victoria Vipers, did you see the size of those guys compared to ours? And our boys still threw the Vipers a beating. Besides last years team almost pulled off a win against Judson, so there is no doubt in my mind they will do it this year. Coach Padron along with the other coaching staff, knows what needs to be done. So the only place the Judson Rockets will be blasting off to is back home to end their season. Sorry, you guys have a good team but just looking out for numero uno. The Panthers are coming and there bringing hell with em'!!

Good Luck to Both Teams

Well i think Judson could shut the gold helmets out!There defense is that good!I`ll be there,in the reserve section,cheering on the Rockets,and my daughter.

[SVite]

acctually Madison and Sv are co Champions u have the little tie breaker thingy but they are co champions....dont feel bad hardly anyone ever win s this district out right.


CO -champs?Not!we spanked you,your not on equal ground in the district.SV is district champs,period! :cool:

[Bucky]

Isn't it true. Didn't Lewisville run over Judson? Yes they did. I guess hearing the truth that Judson did lose and lose badly gets you upset and you have to result to calling me names. You can do better than that.


Noone is disputing that Lewisville beat Judson..pretty handily if I remember correctly. And Im not calling you names..I told a joke. If you assume that the joke is about you then you must be pretty sensitive. What does lewisville beating Judson have to do with anything? Now Judson beating Plano thats a different story. Its like Clemens saying (last year) Well Judson got beat by Westfield.....didnt they? You're from Plano and Im from Judson. We beat you and you are still upset about it. So in comes Lewisville...Yep they beat Judson(The score could have been 200-0 and it still wouldnt change the fact that Judson beat Plano..now would it?). But the fact still remains that Plano didnt. And you can bring it up all you want..I just cant figure out where you are going with the you beat us but someone else beat you thing.

[lonny23]

FYI

Lee, Churchill, and Roosevelt have all won titles in the past. :cool:
SV has played in 3 finals, with 2 in 5A.
Reagan has never made the playoffs.
Madison has never gotten past the semifinals.
MacArthur played for a title.

26-5A has more than 10 titles, but 8 had done good over the years. I'd give 8 3rd place among districts after 3 and 26.

[Mr_Lucci]

WHERE's Plano anyway? It's about 10 rungs up the economic ladder from where you are in San Antonio :D

Speaking of economies,about how much of that economy is attributed to Heroin sales? Plano is Heroin capital of the world. Atleast that's what Dateline NBC says. Now I know why your Wildcats haven't been around in so long. Oh yeah while we are at it ,besides keying your cars and spitting on you can add assault and battery to that.............for what the Rockets did to your boys on the field. BEAT DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mad_fan]

Speaking of economies,about how much of that economy is attributed to Heroin sales? Plano is Heroin capital of the world. Atleast that's what Dateline NBC says. Now I know why your Wildcats haven't been around in so long. Oh yeah while we are at it ,besides keying your cars and spitting on you can add assault and battery to that.............for what the Rockets did to your boys on the field. BEAT DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Isn't that the outfit that placed explosives in a Chevy pickup before crashing a car into it...to prove their case that the trucks explode when crashed into... :mad:

[lonny23]

Isn't that the outfit that placed explosives in a Chevy pickup before crashing a car into it...to prove their case that the trucks explode when crashed into... :mad:
That explains how they can do about 50 shows a week. They make stuff up! :D

[lonny23]

Isn't that the outfit that placed explosives in a Chevy pickup before crashing a car into it...to prove their case that the trucks explode when crashed into... :mad:
Mad, here's what I see.

After this week, you'll STILL be in the playoffs and 220 teams WON'T. It doesn't matter what your record is. You want to still be playing.

[bubbacoach]

If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :eek:
I think you are right, but I am pretty sure Judson made short work of Plano in one of theirs

[bullrock]

TSK..TSK.. I still don't know why a Plano fan is on the Judson thread bashing. Why all the hate? Hell, I've been cursed and flipped off and humilated (honking and hollering after a loss) many times and I can't make myself hate a team for what a few fans did. That's pretty shallow to me. I remember satnding at the exit of the Roosevelt Flower Mound game in '95. The Roosevelt kids were being like they are (don't have to elaborate) and the Marcus folks pulled out wads of green and shoved in thier faces. They just don't know how lucky they were that they made it to thier cars. The point is, it doesn't matter and all that money and education will buy you absolutely nothing on the field. So, if that's all you've got it only shows how immature you really are. After you grow up, come on back and let's CONVERSE a little bit.
PS
I hope you don't raise your kids to act and think like you do because they'll be the ones spitting on people in the future if you do!

[JudsonStud19]

Wow... I love how this went from a Judson, O'Conner post. To a I hate Judson kause I am from Plano... Aint that some BULL... Well attending Judson I have some things to say... Judson will win if they can continue to run the football... And run it well... Judson spent most of thier season without ALL CITY UNANIMOUS OG Adolph Perez... He is just now getting back into playin shape... Alot of injuries across the board plauged Judson this year... As far as that #1 kid yall are talking about, Derrick Williams... That guy can play... I agree... I dont understand why they dont just put the ball in his hands... Yes he has a nagging KNEE injury... But when he wants to turn it on... And needs to he does... Just look at the tapes... That man won us the pflugerville game... Caught the only TD for judson against SV.. and one of the only ones against Madison... He is almost gaurenteed to take one back or almost back atleast once in a football game... he is a scary weapon... Judson will start to settle down now that they have found if u jus keep one QB in the game... You will have a better chance... Which is why we are sticking with our guy... Carl Bouldin

[Bucky]

Todays the day. GOOD LUCK ROCKETS and panthers.

[bullrock]

Thanks Bucky. I'm sure we will need all the help we can get.

[singularity]

Wow... I love how this went from a Judson, O'Conner post. To a I hate Judson kause I am from Plano... Aint that some BULL... Well attending Judson I have some things to say... Judson will win if they can continue to run the football... And run it well... Judson spent most of thier season without ALL CITY UNANIMOUS OG Adolph Perez... He is just now getting back into playin shape... Alot of injuries across the board plauged Judson this year... As far as that #1 kid yall are talking about, Derrick Williams... That guy can play... I agree... I dont understand why they dont just put the ball in his hands... Yes he has a nagging KNEE injury... But when he wants to turn it on... And needs to he does... Just look at the tapes... That man won us the pflugerville game... Caught the only TD for judson against SV.. and one of the only ones against Madison... He is almost gaurenteed to take one back or almost back atleast once in a football game... he is a scary weapon... Judson will start to settle down now that they have found if u jus keep one QB in the game... You will have a better chance... Which is why we are sticking with our guy... Carl Bouldin
Did Williams go out in the SV game due to that injury? Was it there before SV or did it occur b/c of SV?

[Pantherfan12]

Todays the day. GOOD LUCK ROCKETS and panthers.
Thanks Bucky See you all tonight...

GO PANTHERS

[bullrock]

Williams was injured in the SV game. I saw the play but couldn't see where the hit occurred because of the players standing in the way. Some of them claimed it was a hit out of bounds. There was no flag so I don't think there is too much to that. Even if the boy can't catch as good as some think he should, he can sure light up the field on kick-off returns! If they could get him in the game a little more, the offense would be just fine.

[lonny23]

GO ROCKETS!

I'll be around for some of the first half.

[Converse Judson]

Final Score

Converse Judson -30
O'Connor Panthers-28

Judson with an INT to seal the win. Good job boys.

[DiamondJ2]

Outstanding game!!! Rockets jump out to a 17-0 lead, then 3 touchdowns are scored in the final two minutes of the 1st half. After OC scored, Judson fumbles on next possession and OC scores with 14 seconds left in the half; OC kicks off & Judson runs it back 95 yards for a TD, 23-14. OC recovers onside kick to start 2nd half, then scores on that possession. Rockets answer with a TD, then OC comes back & scores agains with 8 minutes left in the game. Rockets intercept with 35 seconds left in the game to preserve victory. Judson has over 300 yards offense. OC played an outstanding game in the middle two quarters. They have a ton of players coming back next year & will be a tough ballclub. Congrats to Coach Padron and his players on a great season and game. Great job Rockets!!! The "Overcomers" came up with the big plays necessary to win again.

[dwistheman]

Did anyone see that onside kick go 10 yards before it was touched? I could have sworn it was touched early.

[Jrock]

It went past the 50. As soon as it passed the 50 they batted back into their side of the 50.

[dwistheman]

I guess my eyesight aint what it used to be......

On the throwback pass to the QB, did my eye's decieve me or could holding have been called. It looked to me like #8 Travis Houston was held.

[Jrock]

holding should've been called on that play, imo. judson did get a break in the first half when the ref gave them a first down when the ball was a foot short, but the last play of the third quarter and the first play of the forth quarter OC got very generous spots.

[Mad Hatter]

how about austin quinnys arm not bad for a 10th grader :)

dereck is still the best athlete on the team maybe even the best in the city...

[LoneRocket]

It was a good game, but they have to play 4 full quarters of football.

[JudsonStud19]

Judson does it again... Derrick Williams(all-star).. Jus give that guy the damn ball... Carl went out with a little back spasm but he should be fine.. he didnt miss any snaps... But he will get better with some rest and treatment over the weekend... D steped it up again... When it matters.. we need to watch out in them middle quaters... Anyways... Maybe next week they will learn not to kick it to that big red #1...

[Mad Hatter]

i agree just give him the ball lol he needs to touch the ball 10 times a game line him up everywhere.

[LoneRocket]

I did say that before the brackets came out. However, once the brackets came out and saw how really bad and average your region was, I thought my gosh Judson could even win a game. :)

Don't be thumping your Rocket Parts to much with a first round win. :D
I thought you said Judson would win "A" meaning "ONE" game?

[PantherFan70]

I don't care what anybody says, OC gave Judson one hell of a game tonight. All you Judson fans have to admit that they were sweatin' towards the end. It was a good game and nobody can say O'Connor didn't come to play. Congratulations to Judson and they better win the damn state!!! Good luck to all the Judson players as they continue on to rep region 4!!!! Congrats to all the OC players on a great season as well!

[bullrock]

If Judson hadn't intercepted the ball with 40 seconds left in the game, O'conner would be playing next week. That was an exciting game. There was only one penalty the whole game, illegal procedure O'conner. It was well coached (while choking on my tongue), well, the visitors were. O'conner will be a team to deal with next year. Good game Panthers. Thanks for spotting us 17 points.

[DiamondJ2]

Don't sell the Rockets too short, bull. They made some pretty good calls offensively or we wouldn't have jumped out to a 17 point lead. OC has a good football team and like you said will be a very good team next year.

[winagain]

i know danny padron is a great coach b/c he's an ol' judson guy and has done wonders at o'connor. but, i gotta tell you, i couldn't believe he decided to kick it deep to the rockets with only a few seconds left in the first half. not a good call.

i'm glad he did . . .

[lonny23]

The funny part of this is that Judson has 6 of their own. I think 9 total in the district. Lonny...stats please...Judson vs Plano in the Texas 5A state playoffs. Who has the better numbers. Who has won more championships and been to the finals more..semi's more...come on I know you have it!!


I believe Lewisville spanked Judson Pretty bold/stupid statement from a guy in Plano...dont you think.

My only question is this.....What do you a dumba$$ from Plano Texas............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....You call him a Plano Dumba$$!!! Good Luck to all still playing!!!
I'll give you what I can with me not having my books over here.

Judson 6-3 in 5A title games.

Plano 3-1 in 5A title games, with the loss to Judson.
Plano 1-1 in 4A title games and as the biggest classification.
Plano 4-2 in largest classification title games.
Plano 1-0 in 3A title games.
Plano 2-0 in 2A title games.
Plano 7-2 in all title games.

26-5A in all title games:
Judson 6-3
Madison 0-0
Reagan 0-0
Smithson Valley 0-3
Lee 1-2
Churchill 1-0
MacArthur 0-1
Roosevelt 1-0

26-5A 9-9 overall

8-5A in title games:
Plano 7-2 with the Judson loss
Lewisville 2-1
Plano West 0-0
Plano East 0-0
Allen 0-0
Flower Mound 0-0
Flower Mound Marcus 1-1 with a loss to Roosevelt
The Colony 0-0

8-5A 10-4 overall. I give the advantage to 26-5A with the 2 head-to-head wins and 4 more title games.

Judson has 14 semifinals. I don't know how many Plano has, but it's probably around Judson's number. I still give Judson the advantage because they've been much better at the highest level and more recently.

[lonny23]

There was no co-champions! SV won it!Just like Judson won third,if they didnt,the uil would`nt let them in the offs.
Each district looks at it differently. They did tie for first. Maybe 26 said SV is the champs, but they might've just awarded the #1 seed in 26-5A to SV.

[lonny23]

Isn't it true. Didn't Lewisville run over Judson? Yes they did. I guess hearing the truth that Judson did lose and lose badly gets you upset and you have to result to calling me names. You can do better than that.
They're upset because it's weak that you bring in another team to make you feel better.

[SVite]

Each district looks at it differently. They did tie for first. Maybe 26 said SV is the champs, but they might've just awarded the #1 seed in 26-5A to SV.


yeah...if madison really believes that their co-champions,i guess they can believe that.But, when you lost to the proverbial other "co-champ" We all know the real champ is SV.And will prove it again,if we have too, if we meet again. :)

[lonny23]

how about austin quinnys arm not bad for a 10th grader :)

dereck is still the best athlete on the team maybe even the best in the city...
Hey, they might be saving him for the semis.

[lonny23]

I don't care what anybody says, OC gave Judson one hell of a game tonight. All you Judson fans have to admit that they were sweatin' towards the end. It was a good game and nobody can say O'Connor didn't come to play. Congratulations to Judson and they better win the damn state!!! Good luck to all the Judson players as they continue on to rep region 4!!!! Congrats to all the OC players on a great season as well!
Here's my take on O'Connor. They started slow, but were rolling in district until that Jay game. They aren't as bad as the Jay game showed and Jay isn't as good as they played that night. I'm happy Judson beat a team that knows how prepare for the Rockets.

[PantherFan70]

:D Here's my take on O'Connor. They started slow, but were rolling in district until that Jay game. They aren't as bad as the Jay game showed and Jay isn't as good as they played that night. I'm happy Judson beat a team that knows how prepare for the Rockets.

Is that your way of complimenting the Panthers? If it is I'll take it! thanks Lonny

[PantherFan70]

:D

Is that your way of complimenting the Panthers? If it is I'll take it! thanks Lonny

Lonny, i just read your other posts on the other threads, disregard that statement. Thanks for all the nice things about OC.

[TexasRed6x]

I would like to say what a good team OC had last night. As a rocket fan I knew that their coaching staff would find a way to keep them in the game. Oc has one of the best coaches in the city if not the best and I feel sorry for any team that plays them next year period. The future is bright for at least the next two years at OC, and again you played a great game.

[lonny23]

Lonny, i just read your other posts on the other threads, disregard that statement. Thanks for all the nice things about OC.
You're welcome. I think you guys have a good program. Some people get confused between me saying a team will lose and how good I think their team is. It's all a matter of if I think your team is better than mine. O'Connor can be better than over 220 of 244 teams in 5A, but that doesn't mean they'll beat Judson.

[PantherFan70]

You're welcome. I think you guys have a good program. Some people get confused between me saying a team will lose and how good I think their team is. It's all a matter of if I think your team is better than mine. O'Connor can be better than over 220 of 244 teams in 5A, but that doesn't mean they'll beat Judson.

True, but the expierence all of the young players had this year will make all the difference in the world next year. I can't wait till then!

[HOOKEM]

[QUOTE=Plano Wildcat Fan]If your so sure who has one state championships in 265 other than Judson? 8-5a Has a combined 10 State champions from Plano, Lewisville and Marcus. I believe Lewisville spanked Judson in one of their title games. :

1993 state champs Converse Judson 36 Plano 13

Deal with it.