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svhorns
09-23-2008, 06:10 PM
anyone a mason? I've done a boat load of research on this and I keep finding myself sticking up for them... I'm coming closer and closer to a decision of taking the leap of faith...
I once was a youngin who was misled about this subject or I'm possibly still being misled but I won't know unless I can overcome my inability to trust
any opinions on this?
Pinion
09-23-2008, 06:19 PM
I dont know much about them. I do know that I used to have a lot of customers that were Masons and they were all fine upstanding kinda people. I had a teacher that was a Mason. At the time I thought he was a jackass, looking back on it though I realize I was the jackass, not him.
My grandpaps were masons. and great grandpaps. great-great grandpaps, and so on.
That seems to have stopped with my dad. I may have to call him tonite and ask why.. I've never thought to ask him.
svhorns
09-23-2008, 06:26 PM
I dont know much about them. I do know that I used to have a lot of customers that were Masons and they were all fine upstanding kinda people. I had a teacher that was a Mason. At the time I thought he was a jackass, looking back on it though I realize I was the jackass, not him.
My grandpaps were masons. and great grandpaps. great-great grandpaps, and so on.
That seems to have stopped with my dad. I may have to call him tonite and ask why.. I've never thought to ask him.
thanks for the response Lonny... I'd actually be interested to hear why your dad didn't become a mason...
rwilleby
09-23-2008, 06:53 PM
When I was in high school I was asked to join the Demolays, a youth group associated with the Masons... I attended a few meetings and started going through some of the ceremonies, but it was a little strange... Dressing up in armor and memorizing a bunch of stuff... Didn't care too much for the overall feel of the group... It seemed like an odd little club and I didn't think it was something for me... It's a curious topic though...
svhorns
09-23-2008, 07:11 PM
When I was in high school I was asked to join the Demolays, a youth group associated with the Masons... I attended a few meetings and started going through some of the ceremonies, but it was a little strange... Dressing up in armor and memorizing a bunch of stuff... Didn't care too much for the overall feel of the group... It seemed like an odd little club and I didn't think it was something for me... It's a curious topic though...
interesting... yea I just looked up the website and it is a youth group associated with masonry through the Knights Templar... it is named after Jacques DeMolay...
Was the DeMolay recruiting openly at the school with teachers and faculty knowing about it.. or was this between friends and inside knowledge? I to think it's an interesting topic..
rwilleby
09-23-2008, 07:16 PM
I was asked by one of the Math teachers if I wanted to come to one of their meetings... As I look back now NO WAY would I let one of my kids go without knowing more about the group... All of the plastic swords, helmets and dress up stuff was just a little too weird for me... And then the memorizing a bunch of stuff and having to know it before you could be accepted into the group, being tested on it in actual ceremonies... All a little odd... Nothing about it was evil or anything like that... Just an odd assortment of things to do... Not for me, maybe it's good for others...
jtk1519
09-23-2008, 07:20 PM
I've actually thought about hooking up with the Masons as well.
Miss Kitty
09-23-2008, 07:25 PM
I don't know much about them. Both grandpa's were Masons and my Dad is some sort of grand puh-bah dude in the Waco area. He LOVES it. I will say that it is a strong brotherhood. At the FMM game this past Saturday a guy approached dad because he saw he had a Masonic belt buckle on and he introduced himself, they exchanged cards and where they were from, etc. It was kind of cool to see. They do great things as for as helping others as far as I know.
TEXREB
09-23-2008, 07:34 PM
My father was a Mason. I used to ask him when he was still living what they did at meetings, etc. He would never tell me. Total secrecy.
Masons seem like upstanding citizens and a strong brotherhood. I would be interested to join, but wouldn't know where to get into contact with one who could help.
Pinion
09-23-2008, 07:36 PM
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That's what the bumber stickers say. lol.
Most Masons wear a ring that is obvious what it's about. Also, you can prolly look up the local lodge in your phonebook and call. may have to leave a number or something. I dunno. I'd bed they have some form of a presence on the web as well.
rwilleby
09-23-2008, 07:41 PM
I do know this... They told us if we ever get into trouble just say "I am a Demolay"...
Fleeman93
09-23-2008, 08:13 PM
I picture it to be like that movie with Tom Cruise and the white mask. Freaky dudes everywhere with hot naked women walking around. Probably good stuff.
mad_fan
09-23-2008, 08:21 PM
I picture it to be like that movie with Tom Cruise and the white mask. Freaky dudes everywhere with hot naked women walking around. Probably good stuff.
That's exactly the way it is...
My step dad is a worshipfull master at his lodge... I can get you in touch with him if your interested....
Fleeman93
09-23-2008, 11:21 PM
My step dad is a worshipfull master at his lodge... I can get you on touch with him if your interested....
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek
:eek: oooops:D
Fleeman93
09-23-2008, 11:29 PM
:eek: oooops:D
Can't stop doing that >>>> LOL.
Can't stop doing that >>>> LOL.
Eh..
Fleeman93
09-23-2008, 11:35 PM
Eh..
I know. Should have just gone here.
:D
t-long20
09-23-2008, 11:52 PM
I'm a free mason...
I'm a free mason...
Sweet....
HebronHawk
09-24-2008, 07:17 AM
I was a State officer in the DeMolays as a kid.
jakerz
09-24-2008, 08:38 AM
Demolays = a bunch of nerds
Matthew 2000 Eagle
09-24-2008, 05:46 PM
I'm a free mason...
I heard that Sean Carter is one as well.
ktCarl
09-24-2008, 07:41 PM
When I was in high school I was asked to join the Demolays, a youth group associated with the Masons... I attended a few meetings and started going through some of the ceremonies, but it was a little strange... Dressing up in armor and memorizing a bunch of stuff... Didn't care too much for the overall feel of the group... It seemed like an odd little club and I didn't think it was something for me... It's a curious topic though...
Did they also make you strip down naked and pick up olives off of bricks of ice with your buttocks?
I wouldn't want to join a club that would have me as a member. As a matter of fact, no one has asked me to join the Masons. :confused:
Pinion
09-24-2008, 07:43 PM
I dont know if the Masons recruit really. I think you recruit them.. sorta. Or at least thats the way I've always understood it.
mad_fan
09-24-2008, 08:49 PM
I feel free...when I'm in Mason...
Nice town...
HebronHawk
09-24-2008, 08:59 PM
Did they also make you strip down naked and pick up olives off of bricks of ice with your buttocks?
I wouldn't want to join a club that would have me as a member. As a matter of fact, no one has asked me to join the Masons. :confused:
They never will. You have to ask them.
lonny23
09-24-2008, 10:13 PM
anyone a mason? I've done a boat load of research on this and I keep finding myself sticking up for them... I'm coming closer and closer to a decision of taking the leap of faith...
I once was a youngin who was misled about this subject or I'm possibly still being misled but I won't know unless I can overcome my inability to trust
any opinions on this?I'm not a Mason. I've never been a Mason. I never will be a Mason. I've known Masons who were good people. I'm diametrically opposed to Masonism, though. I firmly believe Masonism is in conflict with Christianity.
lonny23
09-24-2008, 10:19 PM
My father was a Mason. I used to ask him when he was still living what they did at meetings, etc. He would never tell me. Total secrecy.
Masons seem like upstanding citizens and a strong brotherhood. I would be interested to join, but wouldn't know where to get into contact with one who could help.The Masons are very secret. I now some will deny it, but I've heard Masons are to cover for each other regardless of what they do.
God is light and open. Most things done in secrecy come back to be the works of evil. Ultimately, if they were up to any good, they'd be a more open group. You can't be benovelent in your heart and at the same time be secret about your activities unless you're hiding things. Benevolence begats openness and efforts to reach others. When Jerry Lewis wants to raise money, he goes on TV and talks about what he wants to do. He says who he is and what he's about. The Masons don't do that.
lonny23
09-24-2008, 10:22 PM
I feel free...when I'm in Mason...
Nice town...
I do like the town and the cool drainage ditch to move water around town. The fort on the hill is cool, too.
The Masons are very secret. I now some will deny it, but I've heard Masons are to cover for each other regardless of what they do.
God is light and open. Most things done in secrecy come back to be the works of evil. Ultimately, if they were up to any good, they'd be a more open group. You can't be benovelent in your heart and at the same time be secret about your activities unless you're hiding things. Benevolence begats openness and efforts to reach others. When Jerry Lewis wants to raise money, he goes on TV and talks about what he wants to do. He says who he is and what he's about. The Masons don't do that.
Actually... There not like you describe at all... First they are normal people, good people, who are prone to the same mistakes you and I make. There tends to be alot of "official" people in it, by that I mean police officers, Firemen, Judges, Lawyers, Dr.'s and others. The one my stepdad is in, also has my best freinds dad who is the Fire Chief in Denison... As I said these are normal decent people who live normal lives... They go to work like everyone else, church 2 times a week, and also there are small worship areas in most of the lodges... it looks like a mini church.
Also this group does fundraisers for things like school scholorships, VA hospitals, and to help churches with bills when cash is low... they also usually adopt families at Christmas to make sure there are presents under the tree for the kids.. They also volunteer their time, skills, and funds to help make repairs to peoples homes who cant afford to do so themselves...
Now there are certain aspects of their organization that are secretive like the handshake, or some of their sayings/motto's. And to get in you have to have an elder be a study partner and you have to study their book and take a verbal test. Those are some of the things I know about them, because my stepdad has been a member for about 13 years... Nothing wierd about any of them as I have met everyone at his lodge... And like I said most of them are high profile people in town.
In addition to this.. several Federal Judges, and Congressman, and several Presidents are members... Anyone can do it... Like they say: To be one ask one...
ktCarl
09-25-2008, 07:11 AM
Actually... There not like you describe at all... First they are normal people, good people, who are prone to the same mistakes you and I make. There tends to be alot of "official" people in it, by that I mean police officers, Firemen, Judges, Lawyers, Dr.'s and others. The one my stepdad is in, also has my best freinds dad who is the Fire Chief in Denison... As I said these are normal decent people who live normal lives... They go to work like everyone else, church 2 times a week, and also there are small worship areas in most of the lodges... it looks like a mini church.
Also this group does fundraisers for things like school scholorships, VA hospitals, and to help churches with bills when cash is low... they also usually adopt families at Christmas to make sure there are presents under the tree for the kids.. They also volunteer their time, skills, and funds to help make repairs to peoples homes who cant afford to do so themselves...
Now there are certain aspects of their organization that are secretive like the handshake, or some of their sayings/motto's. And to get in you have to have an elder be a study partner and you have to study their book and take a verbal test. Those are some of the things I know about them, because my stepdad has been a member for about 13 years... Nothing wierd about any of them as I have met everyone at his lodge... And like I said most of them are high profile people in town.
In addition to this.. several Federal Judges, and Congressman, and several Presidents are members... Anyone can do it... Like they say: To be one ask one...
Why the cloak and dagger secrecy?
Miss Kitty
09-25-2008, 07:20 AM
Why the cloak and dagger secrecy?
It is a fraternity thing. Fraternities and sororities all over the country have that same type of secrecy and they are not called evil. I think it is like being from Katy, if you are in it it's hard to explain, but if you aren't, you don't understand it.
HebronHawk
09-25-2008, 07:25 AM
The Shriners are Masons too. You have probably heard of their hospitals offering free care.
elkfbfan
09-25-2008, 07:47 AM
In one sense, the secret oaths, secret handshakes, etc. is kind of like club 10 yr. old boys would have- kind of childish actually. But on the other hand, the oaths you have to swear are definately unbiblical, even though most Masons in the US are churchgoers( there are Masons in Muslim countries, Jewish Masons also, so you do not have to be a Christian to be a Mason), but in a my opinion it is not a good thing for a Christian to be involved in. Yes, masons are involved in many charitable endeavors. But there are many service clubs, like the Lions Club, Kiwanas, Optimist Club, Rotary Club, that do the same type of thing without the secrecy angle. Aren't we a little old for the " He-man Woman Haters' Club" type of thing? BTW, memebership in the Free Masons' is declining as older members die or leave, and fewer & fewer younger members take their place.
In one sense, the secret oaths, secret handshakes, etc. is kind of like club 10 yr. old boys would have- kind of childish actually. But on the other hand, the oaths you have to swear are definately unbiblical, even though most Masons in the US are churchgoers( there are Masons in Muslim countries, Jewish Masons also, so you do not have to be a Christian to be a Mason), but in a my opinion it is not a good thing for a Christian to be involved in. Yes, masons are involved in many charitable endeavors. But there are many service clubs, like the Lions Club, Kiwanas, Optimist Club, Rotary Club, that do the same type of thing without the secrecy angle. Aren't we a little old for the " He-man Woman Haters' Club" type of thing? BTW, memebership in the Free Masons' is declining as older members die or leave, and fewer & fewer younger members take their place.
This is correct... as the Masons do not push any certain religion on you... It's your right to choose how you serve God. My point exactly... That they are not a religious faction and dont tell you how to worship your higher power.
These other clubs you have mentioned there... The masons work closely with all of them... Several of their fundraisers help support the Lions Club and the Salvation Army...
And please dont try to make this out to be a women haters club.. thats simply not the case.. Most if not all members are no doubt devoted members to the sanctity of marriage as well... I was amazed when one night i went up to my stepdads lodge for a fundraising dinner and they honered several members for anniversaries... and all of them had been married for over 30 years... WOW.. we should all be so lucky.. And also alot of the wives are in one way or another contributors to the lodges... And there are cases where women have become members..
Keep in mind that this can be equated to a college fraternity.. in that there are male fraternities and female fraternities... It doesnt mean you are "haters" of the other sex just because you belong to a certain fraternity.
katyfan52
09-25-2008, 10:47 AM
I don't know much about them. Both grandpa's were Masons and my Dad is some sort of grand puh-bah dude in the Waco area. He LOVES it. I will say that it is a strong brotherhood. At the FMM game this past Saturday a guy approached dad because he saw he had a Masonic belt buckle on and he introduced himself, they exchanged cards and where they were from, etc. It was kind of cool to see. They do great things as for as helping others as far as I know.
I've been told they have the best dorm(s) on the UT campus too. We have Masons in our family too, and my neice was planning on living in the Scottish Rite dorm till she decided to go to a different school. You have to be a descendent of a Mason to qualify I think.
I've been told they have the best dorm(s) on the UT campus too. We have Masons in our family too, and my neice was planning on living in the Scottish Rite dorm till she decided to go to a different school. You have to be a descendent of a Mason to qualify I think.
That is not correct... Any male can be a mason... If the steps are followed and oaths are taken and good deeds are done... Again.. TO BE ONE.. ASK ONE
Miss Kitty
09-25-2008, 10:52 AM
That is not correct... Any male can be a mason... If the steps are followed and oaths are taken and good deeds are done... Again.. TO BE ONE.. ASK ONE
I think she meant to live in the dorms, you have to be connected to the Masons through your family, or of course a member yourself.
katyfan52
09-25-2008, 10:55 AM
That is not correct... Any male can be a mason... If the steps are followed and oaths are taken and good deeds are done... Again.. TO BE ONE.. ASK ONE
I meant to live in the Scottish Rite dorm, not to join the Mason's. ;)
katyfan52
09-25-2008, 10:56 AM
I think she meant to live in the dorms, you have to be connected to the Masons through your family, or of course a member yourself.
Once again, Miss Kitty nails it. :)
elkfbfan
09-25-2008, 10:57 AM
The " He-man Woman Haters' Club" reference was refering to the Little Raschals films from the 1930s as an example of boyish clubs, not trying to imply Free Masons hate women.
By the way, if they charge dues, are they really "Free" Masons?:rolleyes: jk.
I think she meant to live in the dorms, you have to be connected to the Masons through your family, or of course a member yourself.
Oh... If so my sincerest apologies...:)
The " He-man Woman Haters' Club" reference was refering to the Little Raschals films from the 1930s as an example of boyish clubs, not trying to imply Free Masons hate women.
By the way, if they charge dues, are they really "Free" Masons?:rolleyes: jk.
Uhh... I guess thats funny... 0.8
I meant to live in the Scottish Rite dorm, not to join the Mason's. ;)
So sorry.. I missunderread it... My bad...:)
HUM398
09-25-2008, 11:17 AM
This is correct... as the Masons do not push any certain religion on you... It's your right to choose how you serve God. My point exactly... That they are not a religious faction and dont tell you how to worship your higher power.
These other clubs you have mentioned there... The masons work closely with all of them... Several of their fundraisers help support the Lions Club and the Salvation Army...
And please dont try to make this out to be a women haters club.. thats simply not the case.. Most if not all members are no doubt devoted members to the sanctity of marriage as well... I was amazed when one night i went up to my stepdads lodge for a fundraising dinner and they honered several members for anniversaries... and all of them had been married for over 30 years... WOW.. we should all be so lucky.. And also alot of the wives are in one way or another contributors to the lodges... And there are cases where women have become members..
Keep in mind that this can be equated to a college fraternity.. in that there are male fraternities and female fraternities... It doesnt mean you are "haters" of the other sex just because you belong to a certain fraternity.
Masons are weird.
And for any Christian to be part of this organization is a contradiction to their beliefs.
katyfan52
09-25-2008, 11:35 AM
So sorry.. I missunderread it... My bad...:)
:laugh We're cool. :)
Firebird
09-25-2008, 11:38 AM
Masons are weird.
And for any Christian to be part of this organization is a contradiction to their beliefs.
Why?
Masons are weird.
And for any Christian to be part of this organization is a contradiction to their beliefs.
So I guess being in a college fraternity is in contradiction to a christians beliefs as well..:rolleyes:
I find it funny when people that dont know about something... or dont understand it... The ones like you... They just throw labels on them like, their weird, or their a cult, I would guess that you've proly had one as a teacher, Dr., coach, or otherwise and didnt even know it and never thought they were weird... but if they started wearing a Masonic lodge shirt you would suddenly say "Oh.. their weird". I assure you the ones I have met are far from weird and in many ways their core values as human beings are alot better than some folks I meet in everyday life..:)
drgnbkr
09-25-2008, 12:50 PM
Masons are weird.
And for any Christian to be part of this organization is a contradiction to their beliefs.
My father was a 32nd degree mason and was one of the strongest Christians I've ever known.
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