Plano v SGP predictions

[planocat05]

5 minutes left looks like plano might play midland next week....

[Sakatha]

My prediction is that you aren't going to like the predictions ;)

~DnM

[Weber]

SGP 35 Plano 21

[Butch Fifield]

after seeing some of the scores today, I don't feel so bad about Plano's win over Desoto.

in the playoffs, a win is a win.

[LeanderLions3033]

SGP is on a hot streak and probably has better athletes than Plano. I like SGP in this.

[PESHfan]

looks like they are goin to play each other in the second round. neither team had an easy victory in the first round. wuts your predictions?

As much as I'd like to see Plano continue on in the play-offs, if both Plano and SGP play like they did during the first round, SGP will clobber Plano big time. Sorry! SGP had a pretty good deficit at half-time, and then just pulled out all the stops to win the game by 13. Whew! What a turnaround that game was. By half-time the DR folks were probably marking next week's Plano game on their calendar. By the end of the game, they were able to clear their calendar for the rest of the season. If Plano throws another 3 Interceptions next week before half-time, SGP will probably return every one of them for a touchdown.

Hopefully both of our Plano teams will step up their game before next weekend, or they'll be watching the rest of the play-offs on streaming video! Both Plano and Plano East have the talent to continue in the play-offs, but they half to play near perfect and try to avoid ridiculous penalties. Illegal Procedure was called way too many times last night against both of our teams.

Next week's triple header should be a great weekend in football. Six great teams, but there will be three losers going home that night. Hopefully none of them from 8-5A, huh?

Looking forward to some great football next Saturday. The two Plano games just about did me in last night, but if Allen ends up playing SLC, I'll want to see that game too!

Good thing my daughter comes home from college on Friday. Haven't seen her since Labor Day, and her first day home, we'll all be at TS for the 8-5A games! She doesn't like football, so she probably won't go.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

You can't say how Plano or SGP will play next week based on 1st round games. SGP made a nice comeback has good athletes and good speed. Honestly Ryan is an average team this year. I know you can't compare scores but Ryan lost to Fossil Ridge by 3. Plano beat FR by 36. Ryan loses by 7 to SGP. Whats the math on that?

Plano always steps up in the playoffs. Their style of play of bend don't break defense and ball control offense lends its self well to playoff football. The first week jitters are over. Plano I predict will play much better and get by SGP.

GO CATS!! :D

[drgnbkr]

You can't say how Plano or SGP will play next week based on 1st round games. SGP made a nice comeback has good athletes and good speed. Honestly Ryan is an average team this year. I know you can't compare scores but Ryan lost to Fossil Ridge by 3. Plano beat FR by 36. Ryan loses by 7 to SGP. Whats the math on that?

Plano always steps up in the playoffs. Their style of play of bend don't break defense and ball control offense lends its self well to playoff football. The first week jitters are over. Plano I predict will play much better and get by SGP.

GO CATS!! :D

Ryan may be down a little this year, but almost got by SGP who beat Trinty..anyone who plays Ryan will be outcoached, except for Carroll....good luck Plano, I think your going to need it...

[BigWhiteJake]

I have to take South Grand Prarie in this one...
SGP 24
Plano 14

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

It's good for Plano to be the underdog. They play better when they have a chip on their shoulder.

So please all you SGP, SL, and other so called TEXAS FOOTBALL Experts who haven't seen Plano play but go just by the scores keep saying how SGP has better speed, better athletes and are streaking at the right time and that Plano is a 2 touchdown underdog.

The game will be entertaining and be decided late.

[TrojanHorse03]

It's good for Plano to be the underdog. They play better when they have a chip on their shoulder.

So please all you SGP, SL, and other so called TEXAS FOOTBALL Experts who haven't seen Plano play but go just by the scores keep saying how SGP has better speed, better athletes and are streaking at the right time and that Plano is a 2 touchdown underdog.

The game will be entertaining and be decided late.

Yeah by a Malcolm Williams interception taken to the house.

[drgnbkr]

Yeah by a Malcolm Williams interception taken to the house.

I don't think Plano throws it enough for there to be an interception..... :p

[TrojanHorse03]

I don't think Plano throws it enough for there to be an interception..... :p

Yeah, they better not... :eek: :eek: :eek:

[PESHfan]

I don't think Plano throws it enough for there to be an interception..... :p


What do you mean? They had 3 interceptions last night before half-time! It was kind of sad. Lucky for them, DeSoto wasn't able to capitalize on any of the interceptions.

[drgnbkr]

What do you mean? They had 3 interceptions last night before half-time! It was kind of sad. Lucky for them, DeSoto wasn't able to capitalize on any of the interceptions.

You mean they actually tried to pass?

[TrojanHorse03]

Yeah they were passing....to the boys in green

[Butch Fifield]

You mean they actually tried to pass?

In the pregame interview, Plano Coach Brence said that they would throw alot more than they have in the past.

I cringed when I heard this. That is the one way they will be making a quick exit in the playoffs. I am hoping he changes his mind before this next game.

[dragons08]

What do you mean? They had 3 interceptions last night before half-time! It was kind of sad. Lucky for them, DeSoto wasn't able to capitalize on any of the interceptions.
drgnbkr is how should i say this...sarcastic

[toonman]

You can't say how Plano or SGP will play next week based on 1st round games. SGP made a nice comeback has good athletes and good speed. Honestly Ryan is an average team this year. I know you can't compare scores but Ryan lost to Fossil Ridge by 3. Plano beat FR by 36. Ryan loses by 7 to SGP. Whats the math on that?

Plano always steps up in the playoffs. Their style of play of bend don't break defense and ball control offense lends its self well to playoff football. The first week jitters are over. Plano I predict will play much better and get by SGP.

GO CATS!! :D

You call scraping a 17-14 win over a 6-4 third place in district De Soto – “Stepping up” - I call it another 10-0 team flattering to deceive. I doubt Plano will get past SGP next week

[Tejasnole]

You look at it as a negative ,but the team and all the fans look at it as a positive by barely squeaking bye a good defensive team. Here are some points:
1) Playoff jitters have faded
2) Plano played very bad football, Can it get worse?(And we still won)
3)Two down weeks, I doubt a third is on the way.
4)Plano got a feel for what works, which will help

Prediction: Plano squeaks bye with a 27-21 game.

[businesstron]

Desoto and SGP are alike except SGP is well seasoned and better. From looking @ the game Today SGP looks built to stop Plano. If y'll had trouble with Desoto y'll are going to get beat by SGP. Dang I wish I could be hear for that game next week!!

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

You call scraping a 17-14 win over a 6-4 third place in district De Soto – “Stepping up” - I call it another 10-0 team flattering to deceive. I doubt Plano will get past SGP next week

First toonman, Read my quote you posted on. I said nothing about stepping up against Desoto. They played down to their competition no doubt about it. I believe they will play better against SGP and think they will win.

Please go ahead and tell us how undeserving we are of our 11-0 record, how its all smoke and mirrors. How many times did you see them play this year? Yeah that would be ZERO!!

Plano plays better as an underdog.

[toonman]

First toonman, Read my quote you posted on. I said nothing about stepping up against Desoto. They played down to their competition no doubt about it. I believe they will play better against SGP and think they will win.

Please go ahead and tell us how undeserving we are of our 11-0 record, how its all smoke and mirrors. How many times did you see them play this year? Yeah that would be ZERO!!

Plano plays better as an underdog.

You said and I quote “Plano always steps up in the play-offs” .Was De Soto not a play-off game? I repeat if stepping up is 4 point win over a 6-4 team, then Plano will not beat SGP. True - I have not seen Plano play. But I will this Saturday at Texas Stadium in the triple header. A 10-0 regular season is no guarantee of play-off success. Look at Longview.

[rancher52]

It's good for Plano to be the underdog. They play better when they have a chip on their shoulder.

So please all you SGP, SL, and other so called TEXAS FOOTBALL Experts who haven't seen Plano play but go just by the scores keep saying how SGP has better speed, better athletes and are streaking at the right time and that Plano is a 2 touchdown underdog.

The game will be entertaining and be decided late.
SGP has better speed, better athletes and are streaking at the right time and that Plano is a 2 touchdown underdog. (Not sure I am allowed to say that since I am not a fan of SGP, SL, and am definitely not a TEXAS FOOTBALL Expert --- and I haven't seen Plano play in years and even then it was on TV.

[dragonsdaddy]

my heart says plano, but my head says sgp. oh what the heck, plano in ot, 31-28

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

You said and I quote “Plano always steps up in the play-offs” .Was De Soto not a play-off game? I repeat if stepping up is 4 point win over a 6-4 team, then Plano will not beat SGP. True - I have not seen Plano play. But I will this Saturday at Texas Stadium in the triple header. A 10-0 regular season is no guarantee of play-off success. Look at Longview.

We ain't Longview. We have a kicker!1 :D

[GarlandOwl06]

You said and I quote “Plano always steps up in the play-offs” .Was De Soto not a play-off game? I repeat if stepping up is 4 point win over a 6-4 team, then Plano will not beat SGP. True - I have not seen Plano play. But I will this Saturday at Texas Stadium in the triple header. A 10-0 regular season is no guarantee of play-off success. Look at Longview.
I can assure you that DeSoto has a great football team. Don't be fooled by an average record in a tough district after a very hard non-district schedule. None the less, SGP will win.

[businesstron]

I can assure you that DeSoto has a great football team. Don't be fooled by an average record in a tough district after a very hard non-district schedule. None the less, SGP will win.

Nope Desoto(like 7-5a) is down this year.... Plano should've blown em out I almost think Cedar Hill with their mistakes could've beaten em Saturday. Teams do have off weaks but lets be real Desoto is not that good this year.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

my heart says plano, but my head says sgp. oh what the heck, plano in ot, 31-28

I will not be that high scoring. Looking at the Stats Plano and SGP's defenses are evenly matched in yards allowed. Offensively Plano runs the ball better but has had problems recently being consistent especially on the toss sweep to Jordan. SGP's defense has given up over 100 points in the last 3 games, while Plano' defense has shut down the run keeping teams to under 90 yards the last 6 games.

IF Plano can minimize the passing yardage and not give up the big play which they have done all year. Then they will win.

[GarlandOwl06]

Nope Desoto(like 7-5a) is down this year.... Plano should've blown em out I almost think Cedar Hill with their mistakes could've beaten em Saturday. Teams do have off weaks but lets be real Desoto is not that good this year.
Um, actually, with their size and speed I do think DeSoto is good this year. But thank you for your opinion. Have you seen them play this year?

[Butch Fifield]

The more I read the responses on this thread, the more my confidence grows that Plano will this game. If people think they will lose, they will win, especially since they have the better team.

But, I still have reservations, because I just don't know what Plano will try to do with their offense. I think I will email Coach Brence and tell him what he needs to do. Think he will listen? :)

[farmerfan]

It all depends on which SGP team shows up to play. Against Trinity the Warriors played a perfect game for 48 mins, they stayed focused and intense and did what it took to win.
Yesterday against Ryan, the 1st half was as bad as SGP could have played, however they only trailed 21-7 at the half. they came out in the 3rd quarter and poured it on the Raiders, scoring 3 TD's in about a 5 minute period to retake the lead. The way they played to open up the 3rd is how they played against Trinity the whole ball game, I think if that team comes to play this saturday then they will walk all over Plano. For being a 10-0 team, I was not to impressed with Plano. I don't think Plano will be able to establish any kind of offense on the Warrior defense. This will be the best defense Plano has seen all year and one where they will have to throw the ball. After last friday night, I don't think Plano is capable of thorwing the football against this defense.
If SGP comes out and plays like they did in the 1st half of the Ryan game, then I think Plano will take advantage of that. The one area that looks weak on the SGP team is special teams, they gave up two long punt returns as well as one for a TD. Plano has the best special teams of any team I have seen this year. They have a kicker who is the best HS kicker I have seen. The same guy is incharge of punting duties, and twice he was able to punt the ball out of bounds inside the Eagle 5, with one of those coming at the 1.

I think SGP will come out out a different team than last week and take it to Plano. I see the warriors winning by 2 TD's.

[pshsfan]

If sfikas throws the ball anything like he has the past two weeks. Plano is going to get killed. However, if he actually starts completing passes to our tight end some times I see a much better passing offense. I think it all rests on his shoulders unfortunately. When sfikas throws picks we just get by. When sfikas actually plays football we blow em out.

[pshs1]

Actually if Mark doesn't throw the ball more than 5 times a game we should win this game with our defense and running game.

Have faith in JJ!

[KTHoC]

SGP is a very good team this year, but, must go with Plano to squeek by them. Plano just seems to be able to do that kind of thing. Plenty of playoff experience besides.

[farmerfan]

Actually if Mark doesn't throw the ball more than 5 times a game we should win this game with our defense and running game.

Have faith in JJ!


SGP will shut down the running game. Plano was able to get the running game going against DeSoto with the FB dive last week, SGP is the type of team who will shut down the dive. Plano will not be able to get the edge on the two DE's SGP has. SGP has two DE in #8 and #40 who are as good as you will find. They will make the option very difficult for Plano forcing the Wildcats into throwing the football, if Sifikas throws the ball like he did last week, this game will get ugly.

[hollywood]

1) Playoff jitters have faded

Absolutely. So I don't expect SGP to give up a 100 yard touchdown return on a muffred punt and then immediately to a give up an onside kick followed by a score to be down 14 zip. It was a very well executed on-side kick BTW by DR. Also against DR they were playing off the receivers way too much in the early going. They made adjustments and scored 2 intercpetions for touchdowns and another with a good run back. They also were a bit tentative and did not start hitting until the second half. I happen to know that some of them were a bit shaken up after what happened to an excellent Coppell punter. They had really backed off since then until the second half yesterday. You could see them pulling up and not hitting like usual. But I think you are dead on with playoff jitters. They dropped a couple of early passes in the DR game that normally are routine. Only one bad pass in the second half that was overthrown to a wide open post to Malcolm Williams in the end zone. On the other hand the SGP quarterback had a great day. He only threw four interceptions the whole year. Not three in a game. DR came in with the playoff experience and I think it showed early on.

2) Plano played very bad football, Can it get worse?(And we still won)

8-) Yes it can get worse .... Sometimes other teams can make you look very bad. Whoever plays SLC will have that opportunity. If SGP brings the A game, it could be rough. No team will win with a bad game here on out. Is that too bold? No I don't think so.

3)Two down weeks, I doubt a third is on the way.

8-) Well if there is a third at least there won't be four.

4)Plano got a feel for what works, which will help

I think that is true for a lot of teams. I have not seen Plano play so I have no idea how well SGP will match up. I saw the stats on Plan and was impressed. Are they a very balanced team that run and pass like a SLC? Or are they as good a running team as Trinity? Or a spread team like DR? SGP learned a thing or two about the spread. Well executed it can move the ball against them. Otherwise it is interception city and points on the board for the D.

Anyway, I hope it is great game. Good luck. It would be awesome if both teams brought their A game. All I can say is that it was fun sitting on the Trinity side in my SGP shirt. They had nothing but compliments for SGP and how much they respected them. You don't always get that reaction from other teams.

BTW SGP is the Dark Horse. The underdog. Just glad to be here. They are not undefeated. They are not a cocky team. They are pretty emotional which is a double edged sword. They have had a great year even if it ends this Saturday. The team who moves on will be a little stronger after this one. And they will need to be.

[Planowildcats160]

You never know what will happen in the playoffs, but i would be very suprised to see plano come out with another poor preformance. They certainly are not a cocky team after the close wins last week-i think the game will come down to who wins the key downs on defense or offense. This should be a mostly defensive game-turnovers could easily decide it. Plano should still be able to run the ball this week, even with more difficulty. I just don't see how a team can stop both the sweep with fast runners like Jordan on the outside and the dive with tough fullback runs, despite the great d-line players for SGP. Either way, i would be suprised to see either team score more than 3 offensive touchdowns-the kicking game could make the difference. I dont know about SGP's kicker, but sheffield is amoung the best-plano won last week because of the kicking game. I pick Plano, but not by alot. Senior experience, determination, and a habit of making critical plays will carry plano through.

[Tejasnole]

SGP is full of themselves. Plano rolls. Calling it now. Plano scores on SGP and Plano win handly. Plano 35-7. SGP and their d better show up because I sure as hell know Plano's will. Winning the past two weeks just proves how good this team really is and all of you bandwagoners go against them at the sign of a downfall. SGP has major weaknesses with their off and on play. Plano's only weakness is how their QB plays. Running game gets going against SGP. No doubt in my mind about this game. :) :D

[piratebacker]

SGP is full of themselves. Plano rolls. Calling it now. Plano scores on SGP and Plano win handly. Plano 35-7. SGP and their d better show up because I sure as hell know Plano's will. Winning the past two weeks just proves how good this team really is and all of you bandwagoners go against them at the sign of a downfall. SGP has major weaknesses with their off and on play. Plano's only weakness is how their QB plays. Running game gets going against SGP. No doubt in my mind about this game. :) :D


Absolutely Tejasnole. I completely agree with you. Plano rolls on on Sat.

[farmerfan]

SGP is full of themselves. Plano rolls. Calling it now. Plano scores on SGP and Plano win handly. Plano 35-7. SGP and their d better show up because I sure as hell know Plano's will. Winning the past two weeks just proves how good this team really is and all of you bandwagoners go against them at the sign of a downfall. SGP has major weaknesses with their off and on play. Plano's only weakness is how their QB plays. Running game gets going against SGP. No doubt in my mind about this game. :) :D


you saying SGP is full of themselves then do nothing but proclaim the greatness of Plano is funny.

SGP will be the best team Plano has played all year, they are a team that is more talented than DeSoto and better coached. Plano will not be able o run the ball at will on the SGP defense. They have two defensive ends that will take away the sweep and option as well as a great NG and 2 inside backers who are very physical and will be able to contain the FB dive. This will be the fastest most physical defense that Plano has played all year and one where scoring will not come easy. No way Plano beats SGP by 28 points or scores 35 on the Warrior D.

[hollywood]

SGP is full of themselves. Plano rolls. Calling it now. Plano scores on SGP and Plano win handly. Plano 35-7. SGP and their d better show up because I sure as hell know Plano's will. Winning the past two weeks just proves how good this team really is and all of you bandwagoners go against them at the sign of a downfall. SGP has major weaknesses with their off and on play. Plano's only weakness is how their QB plays. Running game gets going against SGP. No doubt in my mind about this game. :) :D

I am glad your mind is made up and so you won't have to worry about it then. But you and I know you don't know anything about SGP. Wrong side of town maybe. You just made that up so it would sound cool. No one answered my question as to whether Plano had a much better running game than Trinity. Do they pass a lot? They must be an awesome team if they are going to roll. They must be right there with SLC. Way better than Trinity. How do you know Plano's D will show up? The SGP coach did say the only thing that Malcolm Williams had not done for the team was drive the bus. So maybe the D does not show up ... I hope if Plano wins you get to stay up late.

[businesstron]

Um, actually, with their size and speed I do think DeSoto is good this year. But thank you for your opinion. Have you seen them play this year?

Thanks for the thanks. 7-5a is my home district but I didn't get to see them play this year. I did see Arlington Cedar Hill and Duncanville though. A good Desoto team would've ran away with district this year and Desoto didn't. Desoto is talented(like any team in Southwest Dallas) but from hearing from lot of folks that have seen em play. They aren't the Desoto they were last year or the year before that. While 8-5a won all three games against 7-5a they didn't impress me seeing how down 7-5a is this year. But 7-5a teams match up well with 8-5a teams for the most part. SGP is like a good 7-5a team, more or less they are a trumped version of Desoto. Looking @ em Saturday they match up perfectly against Plano... Man I'm almost thinking about driving back down for this game...

[TrojanHorse03]

Absolutely Tejasnole. I completely agree with you. Plano rolls on on Sat.

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[PlanoNative]

Plano moved the ball well against DeSoto but a couple of bad throws and a busted trick play cost them. It should've been more like 24-7. The defense is still playing lights-out.

There seems to be a lot of confidence in SGP rolling this 11-0 Plano team. The same team that trounced some really good teams this year. You will find out Saturday. Plano 28.. SGP 17.

[piratebacker]

SGP barely squeaked into the playoffs. They barely beat an average Denton Ryan team to make it into the second round. Plano will win this one. SGP will say the same thing every team in district 8-5a said this year, "Holy ****, where did they come from."

[PaulinPlano]

We ain't Longview. We have a kicker!1 :D

That is no joke. He has to be going D1.

[farmerfan]

SGP barely squeaked into the playoffs. They barely beat an average Denton Ryan team to make it into the second round. Plano will win this one. SGP will say the same thing every team in district 8-5a said this year, "Holy ****, where did they come from."


sgp was never in doubt of makiung the playoffs. They had Coppell under control and were never in doubt of losing. I dont know how a team who's only loss was by 3 pts barely squeaked into the playoffs.

[piratebacker]

sgp was never in doubt of makiung the playoffs. They had Coppell under control and were never in doubt of losing. I dont know how a team who's only loss was by 3 pts barely squeaked into the playoffs..

I wouldn't call beating Coppell (5-4) by 5 points having the game under control. If they hadn't made it past Coppell, they would have been turning in their pads that Monday.

[PaulinPlano]

Oct. 20 Mac Arthur Away* L 0-3 Loss?!?! :eek:
Friday Oct. 28 Trinity Away* W 35-28 Good win. :D
Bi-District Denton Ryan W 48-35 gave up 35 to Ryan which I think is down this year. :rolleyes:

Hmmm.... :confused:

Plano 24
SGP 13

That is if Plano doesn't spot SPG 3 interceptions in the first qtr. ;)

[farmerfan]

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I wouldn't call beating Coppell (5-4) by 5 points having the game under control. If they hadn't made it past Coppell, they would have been turning in their pads that Monday.

SGP never trailed and had a comfotbale lead for most of the game. Coppell was never able to generate enough offense to beat SGP.

[farmerfan]

Oct. 20 Mac Arthur Away* L 0-3 Loss?!?! :eek:
Friday Oct. 28 Trinity Away* W 35-28 Good win. :D
Bi-District Denton Ryan W 48-35 gave up 35 to Ryan which I think is down this year. :rolleyes:

Hmmm.... :confused:

Plano 24
SGP 13

That is if Plano doesn't spot SPG 3 interceptions in the first qtr. ;)

and FMHS and DeSoto are power houses.

[Nv8der]

Its all about how teams match up against each other. If Plano is a running team which from the posts above it sounds like that is what they do then SGP matches up well against them. If Plano can pass the ball well then SGP doesn't match up well and that is why Denton Ryan put up so many points.

[farmerfan]

Its all about how teams match up against each other. If Plano is a running team which from the posts above it sounds like that is what they do then SGP matches up well against them. If Plano can pass the ball well then SGP doesn't match up well and that is why Denton Ryan put up so many points.

21 of the 35 points came off of short fields, they had a punt return for a TD, then did a onside kick which gave them a very short field where they scored on a well executed play action pass, then Ryan had another long punt return that gave them great field posistion as well.

[hollywood]

21 of the 35 points came off of short fields, they had a punt return for a TD, then did a onside kick which gave them a very short field where they scored on a well executed play action pass, then Ryan had another long punt return that gave them great field posistion as well.

In addition I would say that SGP later made adjustments in the game that yielded three interceptions. Two for touchdowns. Half time allows the coaches to put in adjustments. Lets give DR credit for going on an 80 yard drive at the end of the game. BUT, they had to make three fourth down and around six conversions. It was not exactly rolling down the field. SGP had made adjustments.

[farmerfan]

In addition I would say that SGP later made adjustments in the game that yielded three interceptions. Two for touchdowns. Half time allows the coaches to put in adjustments. Lets give DR credit for going on an 80 yard drive at the end of the game. BUT, they had to make three fourth down and around six conversions. It was not exactly rolling down the field. SGP had made adjustments.

I still think the refs blew a huge call on that TD, their was a o-lineman down field that the refs totally missed on Ryans TD with .01 left in the game.

[hollywood]

Its all about how teams match up against each other. If Plano is a running team which from the posts above it sounds like that is what they do then SGP matches up well against them. If Plano can pass the ball well then SGP doesn't match up well and that is why Denton Ryan put up so many points.

I absolutely agree here. If Plano is mostly a running team, I think SGP will matchup well. I am in no way saying anything like SGP will roll. It could happen, but I think it is more likley this will be a closely fought battle.

[hollywood]

Oct. 20 Mac Arthur Away* L 0-3 Loss?!?! :eek:
Friday Oct. 28 Trinity Away* W 35-28 Good win. :D
Bi-District Denton Ryan W 48-35 gave up 35 to Ryan which I think is down this year. :rolleyes:

Hmmm.... :confused:

Plano 24
SGP 13

That is if Plano doesn't spot SPG 3 interceptions in the first qtr. ;)

If you have the word Plano in your ID you might want to step back and ask yourself if you are being objective here. Just kidding.
Having said that, 24 to 13 is possible. The reverse is equally possible.

[Planowildcats160]

and FMHS and DeSoto are power houses.

all that matters is a win- and besides that, both are very underrated teams, especially flower mound. Flower mound offense was lead by an increadible QB who is going to Old Miss. They had a huge offensive line and just overall huge players. Look at this- Flower mound lost to the 3 8-5a playoff teams by a combined 10 points. They're a team with alot of talent who just couldnt make things happen. DeSoto is a fast team who was able to disrupt the Plano's offense-add Plano mistakes-without the turnovers it wouldnt have been a game. Even with this Plano still moved the ball. No team can stop both the sweep and the dive. And scores dont really tell you anything about the game-there are many other factors in a football game, especially when you're playing far away in a hostile enviorment like FM. All that matters is getting a W

[Planowildcats160]

plano D will shut down SGP's offense. Who knows if SGP can do the same to plano's offense. Should be a definsive battle- i would be suprised to see either team score more than 3 touchdowns

[piratebacker]

Plano 27
SGP 14

[luckyfighter05]

I would be suprised to see plano's d outlast sgp's. I'm goin with a 24-17 prediction of sgp over plano.

[piratebacker]

I would be suprised to see plano's d outlast sgp's. I'm goin with a 24-17 prediction of sgp over plano.

You're gonna be suprised then. Plano's defense will hold their own against SGP.

[farmerfan]

all that matters is a win- and besides that, both are very underrated teams, especially flower mound. Flower mound offense was lead by an increadible QB who is going to Old Miss. They had a huge offensive line and just overall huge players. Look at this- Flower mound lost to the 3 8-5a playoff teams by a combined 10 points. They're a team with alot of talent who just couldnt make things happen. DeSoto is a fast team who was able to disrupt the Plano's offense-add Plano mistakes-without the turnovers it wouldnt have been a game. Even with this Plano still moved the ball. No team can stop both the sweep and the dive. And scores dont really tell you anything about the game-there are many other factors in a football game, especially when you're playing far away in a hostile enviorment like FM. All that matters is getting a W

well tell that to paul not me, he was the one questioning SGP and their past scores. Losing 0-3 to I-Mac and beating Ryan 42-35 in a little more impessive than beating Flower Mound and DeSoto.
I also think your wrong when you say no team can stop the dive and option. SGP has two DE's and 2 OLB who will more than be able to stop the sweep and option. SGP also has 2 tackles and 2 inside backers who can handle dive responsibility. From what I have seen out of the Warrior D they havethe personell to stop Plano's offense. That said I have been wrong before and very well could be this week, good luck to both teams.

[hollywood]

well tell that to paul not me, he was the one questioning SGP and their past scores. Losing 0-3 to I-Mac and beating Ryan 42-35 in a little more impessive than beating Flower Mound and DeSoto.
I also think your wrong when you say no team can stop the dive and option. SGP has two DE's and 2 OLB who will more than be able to stop the sweep and option. SGP also has 2 tackles and 2 inside backers who can handle dive responsibility. From what I have seen out of the Warrior D they havethe personell to stop Plano's offense. That said I have been wrong before and very well could be this week, good luck to both teams.

I agree with everything said here. I can't wait for this game. My only expectation is that this may be the most entertaining of the day. The other two could be impressive machine-like blowouts. I don't expect this game to be machine-like. Could be a war. Count on some real honest to goodness clean, but excuse me I have to light you up hitting. One of these two teams is going home and making plans to travel to the next playoff game. Maybe Midland. The other is going to be very disappointed. They both have had great years. All they can wish is to be able to say they left it all out on the field. Nothing leftover. Nothing held back. No BS. No smack. No we really rolled. It may be cliche, but this is going to be one of those "character" games. I suspect that both coaching staffs believe in their players but there is no way either thinks this is cake walk, or that they will roll ... they are preparing a battle plan. Sorry for being so dramatic. But I can feel this. Some folks could be really lit up before it is over. You will know whats happening from outside the stadium. If the war drums are beating ...

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

21 of the 35 points came off of short fields, they had a punt return for a TD, then did a onside kick which gave them a very short field where they scored on a well executed play action pass, then Ryan had another long punt return that gave them great field posistion as well.

That bodes well for Plano then. Looks like SGP's special teams aren't very strong. Regardless thats part of the game. Why do think Madison in Houston lost to strake? Couldn't kick a extra point and a 22 yard fieldgoal.

[farmerfan]

That bodes well for Plano then. Looks like SGP's special teams aren't very strong. Regardless thats part of the game. Why do think Madison in Houston lost to strake? Couldn't kick a extra point and a 22 yard fieldgoal.


If it comes down the special team then Plano has a decisive advantage. Sheffield might be the best kicker in the nation, he had two punts where he pinned DeSoto inside the 5 last week, as well as kicking 50+ yard field goals in warm ups. The guy is impressive.

[hollywood]

That bodes well for Plano then. Looks like SGP's special teams aren't very strong. Regardless thats part of the game. Why do think Madison in Houston lost to strake? Couldn't kick a extra point and a 22 yard fieldgoal.

But on the other hand the kicker puts the kickoffs out of the endzone at will, blocked punts are common, one in the last game for a touchdown and punts are commonly buried inside the ten. In fact on the touchdown run, the punt was muffed and there was nearly a safety. #32 for DR, is an impact player. Sorry I forgot his name. He was their running game. he was able to squirm out and take it all the way. Good blocking helped. Can't really say that that is a normal event. Also the onside kick was very well executed. Too small a sample to draw wide sweeping conclusions from. You don't give up just over 14 points per game with weak special teams. I would characterize the special teams as dangerous to the opponent. Above average in general. Certainly not weak. The strength of the team is the defense. The defense scores points. Causes turnovers. The offense is good not great but does not lose the game. Since they have added Malcolm Williams to their scheme they have been more prolific. DR after the on-side kick then tried a hook and ladder. They felt they needed to take risks to win the game. Good coaching I think. SGP is not as tricky. They have more to lose. They can take less risks and still win.

[DR Raider]

For discussion purposes, DR's scores in the SGP game resulted from the following:

First Half:
96 yard punt return (7-0)
46 yard drive (after onside kick) (14-0)
99 yard drive (21-7)

Second Half:
16 yard drive (after punt return) (28-28)
80 yard drive (to send game to overtime) (35-35)

Generally speaking, DR was very pleased with its offensive performance against SGP's outstanding defensive personnel. The three and outs in the third quarter and the failed fourth down on SGP's 31 in the fourth quarter really hurt. Ultimately, DR simply could not overcome the great individual plays by SGP.

[hollywood]

For discussion purposes, DR's scores in the SGP game resulted from the following:

First Half:
96 yard punt return (7-0)
46 yard drive (after onside kick) (14-0)
99 yard drive (21-7)

Second Half:
16 yard drive (after punt return) (28-28)
80 yard drive (to send game to overtime) (35-35)

Generally speaking, DR was very pleased with its offensive performance against SGP's outstanding defensive personnel. The three and outs in the third quarter and the failed fourth down on SGP's 31 in the fourth quarter really hurt. Ultimately, DR simply could not overcome the great individual plays by SGP.

Great information. I think that DR showed their playoff experience and excellent coaching in this game. We were particularly impressed by the poise of the quarterback Knight. This was one of the best games I have ever seen. The final drive was a real battle, involving three fourth down conversions. Nothing came easy. Very impressive.

The first two scores above really put SGP in a bind. DRs execution of the onside was flawless from where I was sitting. We were calling it in the stands. But the kick bounced the way you want it to. It would be easy for me to say SGP should have come down with it, but the whole point was to catch SGP in a playoff funk. It worked. The punt return resulted from a muff but Sawyer #32 for ryan can really run. He got a huge block that freed him. Well done.

I remember a great punt by SGP and that must have preceded the 99 yard drive. I think some combination of defensive adjustments and as you say the great individual plays just turned it around in the second half. For a while anyway. Maybe the outcome would have been different if Sawyer did not suffer a first half ankle injury.

This was the most points scored against SGP this year. Trinity managed 28. I am sure it was a heart breaker for DR to walk away from. But if you have to lose one, this was the way to do it. All the way to the end with class.


Great game.

[hollywood]

dupe post

[graveyardpoet]

Some earlier messages have really said it all. Plano's offense matches up with SGP's defense (if Plano stays on the ground), Plano's defense against SGP's offense. Plano D enough said. This game will be all about the kicking game and special teams. In that matchup, Plano wins.

[DR Raider]

Great information. I think that DR showed their playoff experience and excellent coaching in this game. We were particularly impressed by the poise of the quarterback Knight. This was one of the best games I have ever seen. The final drive was a real battle, involving three fourth down conversions. Nothing came easy. Very impressive.

The first two scores above really put SGP in a bind. DRs execution of the onside was flawless from where I was sitting. We were calling it in the stands. But the kick bounced the way you want it to. It would be easy for me to say SGP should have come down with it, but the whole point was to catch SGP in a playoff funk. It worked. The punt return resulted from a muff but Sawyer #32 for ryan can really run. He got a huge block that freed him. Well done.

I remember a great punt by SGP and that must have preceded the 99 yard drive. I think some combination of defensive adjustments and as you say the great individual plays just turned it around in the second half. For a while anyway. Maybe the outcome would have been different if Sawyer did not suffer a first half ankle injury.

This was the most points scored against SGP this year. Trinity managed 28. I am sure it was a heart breaker for DR to walk away from. But if you have to lose one, this was the way to do it. All the way to the end with class.


Great game.

It was a great game, one of those roller coaster rides where you are up and then down. Needless to say, DR fans felt good at halftime, only to have the world turn upside down in the first 4 minutes of the second half.

Austin Knight was terrific - under a ton of pressure and still able to hit critical passes. The interceptions were just great plays by the SGP dbs.

As for as the kicking game goes, SGP also performs very well in that area. One of the problems DR faced all day was poor field position due to excellent punting and kickoffs out of the end zone.

SGP also showed a very good run defense. Using a three man line, SGP held DR considerably under its rushing average for the season.

Plano v. SGP should be another exciting playoff game - good luck to both teams.

[Tejasnole]

I agree with some of the people's posts. Really if plano can play fundamental ball ,they win. SGP D vs. Plano O could really be a toss up ,but you know Plano D is going to put up a hell of a battle so SGP O will have to do the work. If it comes down to battle of the D's Plano wins.

[farmerfan]

I agree with some of the people's posts. Really if plano can play fundamental ball ,they win. SGP D vs. Plano O could really be a toss up ,but you know Plano D is going to put up a hell of a battle so SGP O will have to do the work. If it comes down to battle of the D's Plano wins.

The SGP D is every bit as good as the Plano D is. As far as offenses go, I give the nod to SGP, they have weapons at all the skill posistions and tons of speed, in thsi case I will say speed kills. This will be the best D that Plano has faced all year. Should be make for some great hits this week.

[Planowildcats160]

The SGP D is every bit as good as the Plano D is. As far as offenses go, I give the nod to SGP, they have weapons at all the skill posistions and tons of speed, in thsi case I will say speed kills. This will be the best D that Plano has faced all year. Should be make for some great hits this week.

and plano doesn't have weapons at the skill positions? tailback:jordan-great outside runner, and few can match his pure speed and his moves. Wide recievers: alex lott hasa habit of making huge catches and greg rideaux has great hands and knows how to position his body. It also doesnt hurt that he's 6'4''-6'5''. An weak matchup for SGP-the cornerback covering rideaux is about 5'5''-how can he stop that much of a height advantage? the only spot where plano has a skill position weakness is qb. as a runner, there's no one better than sfikas with his tough runs. he has a geat arm, but sometimes his height causes him troubles. And not to mention fullbacks. they have been a consistant key in the offense. the tandem of nathen sowell and rex burkhead (freshman) have done an excellent job chopping and creating holes. overall, plano's skill position players are exactly what they need to run thier offense

[graveyardpoet]

Plano 23
SGP 14

[ilikefootball]

It should be a competitive game. I think SGP wins this one.

[farmerfan]

and plano doesn't have weapons at the skill positions? tailback:jordan-great outside runner, and few can match his pure speed and his moves. Wide recievers: alex lott hasa habit of making huge catches and greg rideaux has great hands and knows how to position his body. It also doesnt hurt that he's 6'4''-6'5''. An weak matchup for SGP-the cornerback covering rideaux is about 5'5''-how can he stop that much of a height advantage? the only spot where plano has a skill position weakness is qb. as a runner, there's no one better than sfikas with his tough runs. he has a geat arm, but sometimes his height causes him troubles. And not to mention fullbacks. they have been a consistant key in the offense. the tandem of nathen sowell and rex burkhead (freshman) have done an excellent job chopping and creating holes. overall, plano's skill position players are exactly what they need to run thier offense

Jordan will not get the outside on SGP. Last week DeSoto more than shut him down. This week will be the same. SGP defense matches up perfect against the Plano Offense. SGP also has some targets at WR and RB. The speed of SGP is greater than that of DeSoto and their speed gave Plano fits. The plano skill players may be what they need to run that offense, but the skill on the defensive side of the ball for SGP is exactly what you want to shut down a option offense. Plano will have to develop a passing game to be able to move the ball on the Warriors, from what I have read and seen the last two weeks, that could spell doom for the wildcats.
I hope I'm wrong, I would love to see Plano go deep, I think it is not only good for the district but good for HS football, I just don't see them advancing past this week. If im wrong I will gladly admit it and let ya'll tell me how foolish I was.

[piratebacker]

SGP's offense has shown some major inconsistency especially against Denton Ryan, Coppell, and IMAC. Plano's defense and special teams will pull this one out for the Wildcats. Sorry, but the Warriors will be turning in their pads on Monday.

[planocat05]

i def think this is goin to be a low scoring game. Also i see the majority of each teams points coming from the defesnses. With 2 defensive forces this good there WILL be turn overs. in fact the turn overs will decided the outcome of the game. Each team needs to stick to wha they are good at offensivly. Plano needs to keep the ball on the ground. Im not sure what SGP can do offensivly but it seems like they are pretty balanced. I am a plano wildcat but i dont think this is a biased opinion....Plano wins but not by much. Shefield's leg is going to be the determing factor. Plano 13 SGP 7

[rancher52]

i def think this is goin to be a low scoring game. Also i see the majority of each teams points coming from the defesnses. With 2 defensive forces this good there WILL be turn overs. in fact the turn overs will decided the outcome of the game. Each team needs to stick to wha they are good at offensivly. Plano needs to keep the ball on the ground. Im not sure what SGP can do offensivly but it seems like they are pretty balanced. I am a plano wildcat but i dont think this is a biased opinion....Plano wins but not by much. Shefield's leg is going to be the determing factor. Plano 13 SGP 7
I agree with you on the notion it will be low scoring and extremely close. I am going with 14-10 SGP just because of the athleticism edge that I give to SGP. I am not real confident on this one however.

[Planowildcats160]

i think you have a very good point about the skill in SGP defense. they are very talented and will give the Plano O all they can handle. But i still don't think that they can totally shut down the sweep and the dive. they will certainly limit it-because of thier speed and talent. but what ive seen from all teams this year with good defenses is that they worry so much about stopping jordan on the sweep that they forget the dive. I also think that plano's offense is underrated. every team believes they can stop them, and has a great strategy to do so. even with limited yards (250) plano still put of 24 on east-who has a great defense. they held SLC to thier lowest scoring game of the season. this game could go either way. on paper i say it goes to plano, but you never know how things will go in the playoffs. SGP does have the necesary players to beat plano. But i still hold firm in the belief that plano d will shut down SGP's offense, and that will be the reason plano wins. but the key matchup is SGP d versus plano's offense. i don't believe that SGP's defense is necesarily better as a unit than plano east's, anthough they certainly have greater talent at many spots. plano's defense does not have the talent level of SGP's, but they play together exraordinarily well and have a habit of making the big plays that need to be made.

SGP's offense just does not have the ability to win the game for them....and that is what it will come down to. They rely on big plays, and will not be able to sustain drives against a resiliant plano defense. SGP will probably break a few-any team with thier talent can at any time, but overall, plano d will dominate, and that will be the difference.

plano will win the game in special teams, win (or at worst break even with defense), and they will not lose the game with thier offense

[graveyardpoet]

Why does everyone keep saying that Plano doesn't have very athletic or talented players? They would not have made it this far without being athletic or powerful. In comparison to most teams, Plano has a small team. 90% of the kids do not have the size to play D1. Don't be mistaken they have the talent, but when you are just looking at paper they will get passed over every time. Weekly our D-line lines up against players that are 5-6 inches taller and 100 lbs. heavier, but we win every week. I would question then who is more talented. Size isn't everything. The ability, the desire, and the willpower, but don't forget the sheer scrappy-ness of these "small", but aggressive players will win the day.

GO Wildcats!!!

[hollywood]

Why does everyone keep saying that Plano doesn't have very athletic or talented players? They would not have made it this far without being athletic or powerful. In comparison to most teams, Plano has a small team. 90% of the kids do not have the size to play D1. Don't be mistaken they have the talent, but when you are just looking at paper they will get passed over every time. Weekly our D-line lines up against players that are 5-6 inches taller and 100 lbs. heavier, but we win every week. I would question then who is more talented. Size isn't everything. The ability, the desire, and the willpower, but don't forget the sheer scrappy-ness of these "small", but aggressive players will win the day.

GO Wildcats!!!

Good point. You don't make it this far and be undefeated without having talent, toughness, character, great coaching, yadda yadda haka. Some players, great players can elevate their play to a level that is seldom reached by others. I have not seen Plano this year, so I have no idea what level they can rise to. We shall see Saturday night. I can tell you that when challenged SGP can absolutely bring it. Big time. So buckle up. Its going to be a bumpy ride.
Its going to be awesome. I would not bet against OT. But I would bet that it will be the most entertaining game of the day. Not that I don't find the SLC passing game entertaining, or Trinity's running game impressive. But after a while it gets tiresome watching one team take the other to the woodshed. I do find the HAKA entertaining.

Is it not time for the kick off for this game! Lets get this thing rolling. I can not wait.

P.S. SGPs team is a good size. BUT it is the speed that will get you.

[Butch Fifield]

The more I look at these two teams, the more I think it is gonna be a hell of a game. There is gonna be some great defense being played. Wish i could be there.

I really think the key will be the Plano offense. If they can keep from making mistakes, especially in the passing game, they can win. It isn't gonna take 40 points to win this thing, so they shouldn't try to force anything. Just play solid defense, win the field position battle, and play ball control offense.

[Planowildcats160]

The more I look at these two teams, the more I think it is gonna be a hell of a game. There is gonna be some great defense being played. Wish i could be there.

I really think the key will be the Plano offense. If they can keep from making mistakes, especially in the passing game, they can win. It isn't gonna take 40 points to win this thing, so they shouldn't try to force anything. Just play solid defense, win the field position battle, and play ball control offense.

exatly what it will take to win the game right there

as far a plano's lack of talent...i agree with graveyard poet in what he said. what i meant by lack of talent was lack of D-1 talent. They certainly have many players who play extraordinarily well at this level, but simply don't have the size to play D-1. no matter what, plano has always gotten the job done, and i can't see this week being any different

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I don't know abut you but I am fired up for tomorrow evening. Their shoud be a big crowd tomorrow night. I say at least 18,000. As long as brence calls Plano football and doesn't try to throw 10 times in the first half Plano will be OK.

Plano's defense is ideal in the Playoffs. Bend but don't break. They don't give up the big play. I feel SGP's offense is to inconsistent. They are shut out by Macarthur but score 35 against Trinity on big plays. Plano has good speed in their secondary. If they keep Dewberry under control and don't turn the ball over they Win.

Then its on to Abilene to Play Midland :D

[pshsfan]

I don't know abut you but I am fired up for tomorrow evening. Their shoud be a big crowd tomorrow night. I say at least 18,000. As long as brence calls Plano football and doesn't try to throw 10 times in the first half Plano will be OK.

Plano's defense is ideal in the Playoffs. Bend but don't break. They don't give up the big play. I feel SGP's offense is to inconsistent. They are shut out by Macarthur but score 35 against Trinity on big plays. Plano has good speed in their secondary. If they keep Dewberry under control and don't turn the ball over they Win.

Then its on to Abilene to Play Midland :D


i thought if we do end up playing midland it would be at clark?

[Tejasnole]

Defensively schemes don't matter as far as D-1 talent because you play like you play ,but offensivly with plano running a option oriented O, no D-1 talent has a chance to come out. Colleges are looking for good spread offenses and players on that offense.

[bhs06_2]

SGP's biggest strength is their run defense, but their pass defense is just as good. Running the ball won't get it done.

[hollywood]

I don't know abut you but I am fired up for tomorrow evening. Their shoud be a big crowd tomorrow night. I say at least 18,000. As long as brence calls Plano football and doesn't try to throw 10 times in the first half Plano will be OK.

Plano's defense is ideal in the Playoffs. Bend but don't break. They don't give up the big play. I feel SGP's offense is to inconsistent. They are shut out by Macarthur but score 35 against Trinity on big plays. Plano has good speed in their secondary. If they keep Dewberry under control and don't turn the ball over they Win.

Then its on to Abilene to Play Midland :D

I will send you a post card from Midland. I will be there to cheer SGP on. Actually helping to take some equipment out also. They do have post cards ... yes?

Good luck Plano. Hope it is hard fought but no injuries for anyone today. This is East vs. West. Go SLC/Trinity/SGP ... Dragons and Trojans and Warriors OH MY!!! Leaving for Teaxs Stadium now. HAKA followed by Drums tonight.

[planocat05]

second half predictions?

[dragonfootballfan]

second half predictions?
still more ugliness

[Butch Fifield]

yes...whoever has under 7 turnovers will win this game...

[planocat05]

Plano seems to play better when the turnover the ball

[planocat05]

plano 31
SGP 17

[planocat05]

Plano 31
SGP 24

5 min left in the game

[planocat05]

PLANO WINS!!!!!! 31-24
hahahahhahahah to everyone who said we couldnt do it

[farmerfan]

Great job guys and great game. Plano made the catches and plays needed to win this game. Sheffield is some weapon. The Plano defense also played lights out. I was wrong in my prediction on who would win this game, you guys did what you had to do to win. Good luck against Midland and the rest of the way.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I will send you a post card from Midland. I will be there to cheer SGP on. Actually helping to take some equipment out also. They do have post cards ... yes?

Good luck Plano. Hope it is hard fought but no injuries for anyone today. This is East vs. West. Go SLC/Trinity/SGP ... Dragons and Trojans and Warriors OH MY!!! Leaving for Teaxs Stadium now. HAKA followed by Drums tonight.

Yes they do have post cards from beautiful Abilene I will send them to you next Saturday. Love & Kisses from Abilene.