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saMavsFan
09-21-2008, 02:57 AM
Wow! This season is buzzing right along. And, if you're like me, that's a sad thing because it's another week closer to the end of the season!:( But, on a more positive note, we had some really great games this week. No real surprises this week, but good games nonetheless. Here's the scorecard.


Week 3

Madison...41..Johnson...13
Roosevelt...42..Lee...20
SV...20..NB...7
Reagan...42..Churchill...7
Mac...OPEN

Week 4

Madison vs. Mac
SV vs. Johnson
Reagan vs. Lee
NB vs. Churchill
Roosevelt-OPEN

On a side note: Congratulations to Johnson and Lee as winner and runner-up of the 265a 5a State Helmet Championship. Enjoy the moment as winner and runner-up of the district, because it probably won't happen again.:D;)

shooter
09-21-2008, 08:41 AM
Wow! This season is buzzing right along. And, if you're like me, that's a sad thing because it's another week closer to the end of the season!:( But, on a more positive note, we had some really great games this week. No real surprises this week, but good games nonetheless. Here's the scorecard.


Week 3

Madison...41..Johnson...13
Roosevelt...42..Lee...20
SV...20..NB...7
Reagan...42..Churchill...7
Mac...OPEN

Week 4

Madison vs. Mac
SV vs. Johnson
Reagan vs. Lee
NB vs. Reagan
Roosevelt-OPEN

On a side note: Congratulations to Johnson and Lee as winner and runner-up of the 265a 5a State Helmet Championship. Enjoy the moment as winner and runner-up of the district, because it probably won't happen again.:D;)

WOW what a tough week for Reagan but a great oppertunity to collect two wins in one week. Wonder if the UIL will notice????

BandidoNB
09-21-2008, 09:46 AM
Wow! This season is buzzing right along. And, if you're like me, that's a sad thing because it's another week closer to the end of the season!:( But, on a more positive note, we had some really great games this week. No real surprises this week, but good games nonetheless. Here's the scorecard.


Week 3

Madison...41..Johnson...13
Roosevelt...42..Lee...20
SV...20..NB...7
Reagan...42..Churchill...7
Mac...OPEN

Week 4

Madison vs. Mac
SV vs. Johnson
Reagan vs. Lee
NB vs. Reagan
Roosevelt-OPEN

On a side note: Congratulations to Johnson and Lee as winner and runner-up of the 265a 5a State Helmet Championship. Enjoy the moment as winner and runner-up of the district, because it probably won't happen again.:D;)


New Braunfels plays Churchill this coming week :D

shooter
09-21-2008, 09:49 AM
Well Reagan was spauned from the Chargers womb years ago so i guess it's alright...

d-train
09-21-2008, 09:54 AM
Madison vs Mac, the game! NB goes 03 and will miss the playoffs! Mad, Mac, SV and Reagan are in.

shooter
09-21-2008, 10:56 AM
Madison vs Mac, the game! NB goes 03 and will miss the playoffs! Mad, Mac, SV and Reagan are in.

Churchill beating New Braunfels?????

SV2005
09-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Churchill beating New Braunfels?????

Same thing I was thinking. But anything can happen, just realistically i don't see this happening. I think New Braunfels still has a great shot at making playoffs. They just had to play (arguably) the top 2 teams in the distric the first two games. As long as they don't let those 2 loses get the best of them they will be fine. I think playoffs will be... SV, Madison, NB, and Macarthur.

saMavsFan
09-21-2008, 11:21 AM
WOW what a tough week for Reagan but a great oppertunity to collect two wins in one week. Wonder if the UIL will notice????

Sorry, Sorry, Sorry! Fixed it! What can I say, it was 3 in the morning.

shooter
09-21-2008, 11:51 AM
Stone Cold Lock Roosevelt WILL NOT Loose this weekend!!!!

saMavsFan
09-21-2008, 01:02 PM
Stone Cold Lock Roosevelt WILL NOT Loose this weekend!!!!

Very true. But, for the games being played, I've got a breakdown. Let's start with Reagan vs. Lee (assuming that I won't assign Reagan to play a second game against NB this week:rolleyes:)

Reagan (3-1; 2-0) vs. Lee (1-2; 0-1)

I look for Reagan to keep rolling. Out of the teams who are said to be on the edge of making the playoffs in 265a, Reagan looks the strongest. With wins over Smithson Valley and Warren and a rout of Churchill, Reagan has notched itself in as a quality competitor in the district again this year. Lee, God bless em...what can you say? Reagan by 35+

NB (2-2; 0-2) vs. Churchill (0-4; 0-2)

New Braunfels will look to come back from an 0-2 deficit in district. That could prove to be a fatal blow considering who their up against this year. But, there is a light at the end of the tunnel whose name is Churchill. Remember the Iron Curtain! Except this time it will be the NB Unicorns walling off the Chargers. Churchill, considered a perennial competitor in 265a has fallen off the charts with no foreseeable end to the slide. NB started the year pitching two impressive shutouts. Look for a repeat of their pre-district success as NB gets its first district win. NB 28+.

SV (3-1; 1-1) vs. Johnson (1-3; 0-2)

No real analysis needed here. It's Johnson's first year so they get a pass. Which begs the question of how bad is Larerdo Ciggaroa? SV 28+.

Madison (4-0; 2-0) vs. Mac (3-0; 1-0) samavsfan's 265a game of the week!

Madison has had another fast-paced start to the year, tallying 169 points in the first four games of the season. While the Mavs have allowed 128 points thus far, the defense has shown vast improvement since the free-for-all against Kerville Tivy that had both defensive coordinator's updating their resumes. The title of Running Back High School is safely ensconsed in the hands of standout sophomore Aaron Green who leads the city with 870 yards on the ground. MacArthur has a real chance to prove itself as a legitimate region 4 competitor in this game against Madison. Mac has also lit up the scoreboard this season, racking up 105 points in three games. Perhaps even more impressive is that Mac's defense has yet to allow a single point to be scored on them. (Johnson's lone TD coming off a blocked punt.) In a district where one loss can decide the crown, this is sure to be a shootout. Madison by 14.

shooter
09-21-2008, 01:23 PM
Very true. But, for the games being played, I've got a breakdown. Let's start with Reagan vs. Lee (assuming that I won't assign Reagan to play a second game against NB this week:rolleyes:)

Reagan (3-1; 2-0) vs. Lee (1-2; 0-1)

I look for Reagan to keep rolling. Out of the teams who are said to be on the edge of making the playoffs in 265a, Reagan looks the strongest. With wins over Smithson Valley and Warren and a rout of Churchill, Reagan has notched itself in as a quality competitor in the district again this year. Lee, God bless em...what can you say? Reagan by 35+

NB (2-2; 0-2) vs. Churchill (0-4; 0-2)

New Braunfels will look to come back from an 0-2 deficit in district. That could prove to be a fatal blow considering who their up against this year. But, there is a light at the end of the tunnel whose name is Churchill. Remember the Iron Curtain! Except this time it will be the NB Unicorns walling off the Chargers. Churchill, considered a perennial competitor in 265a has fallen off the charts with no foreseeable end to the slide. NB started the year pitching two impressive shutouts. Look for a repeat of their pre-district success as NB gets its first district win. NB 28+.

SV (3-1; 1-1) vs. Johnson (1-3; 0-2)

No real analysis needed here. It's Johnson's first year so they get a pass. Which begs the question of how bad is Larerdo Ciggaroa? SV 28+.

Madison (4-0; 2-0) vs. Mac (3-0; 1-0) samavsfan's 265a game of the week!

Madison has had another fast-paced start to the year, tallying 169 points in the first four games of the season. While the Mavs have allowed 128 points thus far, the defense has shown vast improvement since the free-for-all against Kerville Tivy that had both defensive coordinator's updating their resumes. The title of Running Back High School is safely ensconsed in the hands of standout sophomore Aaron Green who leads the city with 870 yards on the ground. MacArthur has a real chance to prove itself as a legitimate region 4 competitor in this game against Madison. Mac has also lit up the scoreboard this season, racking up 105 points in three games. Perhaps even more impressive is that Mac's defense has yet to allow a single point to be scored on them. (Johnson's lone TD coming off a blocked punt.) In a district where one loss can decide the crown, this is sure to be a shootout. Madison by 14.

I will take Lee plus the points for a nickel, Madison minus the number for a dime and parlay SV and Churchill for a bill.

d-train
09-21-2008, 02:31 PM
Very true. But, for the games being played, I've got a breakdown. Let's start with Reagan vs. Lee (assuming that I won't assign Reagan to play a second game against NB this week:rolleyes:)

Reagan (3-1; 2-0) vs. Lee (1-2; 0-1)

I look for Reagan to keep rolling. Out of the teams who are said to be on the edge of making the playoffs in 265a, Reagan looks the strongest. With wins over Smithson Valley and Warren and a rout of Churchill, Reagan has notched itself in as a quality competitor in the district again this year. Lee, God bless em...what can you say? Reagan by 35+

NB (2-2; 0-2) vs. Churchill (0-4; 0-2)

New Braunfels will look to come back from an 0-2 deficit in district. That could prove to be a fatal blow considering who their up against this year. But, there is a light at the end of the tunnel whose name is Churchill. Remember the Iron Curtain! Except this time it will be the NB Unicorns walling off the Chargers. Churchill, considered a perennial competitor in 265a has fallen off the charts with no foreseeable end to the slide. NB started the year pitching two impressive shutouts. Look for a repeat of their pre-district success as NB gets its first district win. NB 28+.

SV (3-1; 1-1) vs. Johnson (1-3; 0-2)

No real analysis needed here. It's Johnson's first year so they get a pass. Which begs the question of how bad is Larerdo Ciggaroa? SV 28+.

Madison (4-0; 2-0) vs. Mac (3-0; 1-0) samavsfan's 265a game of the week!

Madison has had another fast-paced start to the year, tallying 169 points in the first four games of the season. While the Mavs have allowed 128 points thus far, the defense has shown vast improvement since the free-for-all against Kerville Tivy that had both defensive coordinator's updating their resumes. The title of Running Back High School is safely ensconsed in the hands of standout sophomore Aaron Green who leads the city with 870 yards on the ground. MacArthur has a real chance to prove itself as a legitimate region 4 competitor in this game against Madison. Mac has also lit up the scoreboard this season, racking up 105 points in three games. Perhaps even more impressive is that Mac's defense has yet to allow a single point to be scored on them. (Johnson's lone TD coming off a blocked punt.) In a district where one loss can decide the crown, this is sure to be a shootout. Madison by 14.
RB HS? Trinity? They have a back at ASU and one going to Nebraska, where are all the Madison backs, Thomas at UM, Gutierrez at OU, where are the Green kids?

shooter
09-21-2008, 02:42 PM
RB HS? Trinity? They have a back at ASU and one going to Nebraska, where are all the Madison backs, Thomas at UM, Gutierrez at OU, where are the Green kids?

r-b shooter might be able to go further back than this but this is what I can remember.

Jacob Gutierez - OU
Chris Calflish (QB but used like a RB) - TAMU
Garry Green Jr - Kansas
Tony Green - Alabama A&M
Devin Thomas - Old Miss
Andrew Green - Senior Madison
Aaron Green - Sophomore Madison
Troy Williams - Sophomore Madison


I would throw Paul Quirindongo in the mix as well as he was a fine back but played behind Jacob G.

chainsaw83
09-21-2008, 04:15 PM
r-b shooter might be able to go further back than this but this is what I can remember.

Jacob Gutierez - OU
Chris Calflish (QB but used like a RB) - TAMU
Garry Green Jr - Kansas
Tony Green - Alabama A&M
Devin Thomas - Old Miss
Andrew Green - Senior Madison
Aaron Green - Sophomore Madison
Troy Williams - Sophomore Madison


I would throw Paul Quirindongo in the mix as well as he was a fine back but played behind Jacob G.

Paul didn't play in college.
Jerome Brooks, Isaac Gutierrez, Jonathan Flores, and Tim Taylor were pretty good RBs for Madison also. I'm not sure where they went to college though. Although, I think Taylor went to some school in New Mexico or Arizona.

uhsfilmcrew
09-21-2008, 05:13 PM
Whats yalls scoring prediction on the SV - Johnson game?

SaRattlerFan
09-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Same thing I was thinking. But anything can happen, just realistically i don't see this happening. I think New Braunfels still has a great shot at making playoffs. They just had to play (arguably) the top 2 teams in the distric the first two games. As long as they don't let those 2 loses get the best of them they will be fine. I think playoffs will be... SV, Madison, NB, and Macarthur.

Funny how you listed SV first and left out Reagan despite the fact SV has a LOSS to Reagan. I know, SV still thinks it's a fluke Reagan has beaten you guys 2 of the last 3 years.

SV2005
09-21-2008, 07:10 PM
Funny how you listed SV first and left out Reagan despite the fact SV has a LOSS to Reagan. I know, SV still thinks it's a fluke Reagan has beaten you guys 2 of the last 3 years.

I honestly don't think its a fluke. I just think its one of those rivalary games where anything can happen. Reagan came out more pumped up than SV those years for those games. I still think SV is the better team over all, just not that night (who had a better record these last 3 years in distric and over all?). But only time will tell what will happen. I think Reagan has just as good of a chance of making playoffs as Macarthur does. Im just guessing thats all just like everyone else is on here.

chainsaw83
09-21-2008, 07:49 PM
we're gonna find out right quick and in a hurry what exactly Mac is next week.

personally, i think they're probably still the 6th best team in this district. I don't see them being better than Reagan, NB or Roosy.

saMavsFan
09-21-2008, 09:40 PM
we're gonna find out right quick and in a hurry what exactly Mac is next week.

personally, i think they're probably still the 6th best team in this district. I don't see them being better than Reagan, NB or Roosy.

After this week, everyone in district will have a good view of where we all stand. The week after that will be even more telling. Tough to predict just yet.

Madison beats NB by 3, who loses to SV by 13, who lost to Reagan by 3...none of whom have played Roosevelt or Mac. Could be said that Reagan is the best of all of us from the common games we've had so far. Way too early to tell is all I'm saying.

shooter
09-21-2008, 09:46 PM
After this week, everyone in district will have a good view of where we all stand. The week after that will be even more telling. Tough to predict just yet.

Madison beats NB by 3, who loses to SV by 13, who lost to Reagan by 3...none of whom have played Roosevelt or Mac. Could be said that Reagan is the best of all of us from the common games we've had so far. Way too early to tell is all I'm saying.

I have a pretty clear view of one team already...

Mean DT
09-21-2008, 11:25 PM
we're gonna find out right quick and in a hurry what exactly Mac is next week.

personally, i think they're probably still the 6th best team in this district. I don't see them being better than Reagan, NB or Roosy.Try 4th best team in dist.:D

saMavsFan
09-21-2008, 11:55 PM
Try 4th best team in dist.:D

As it stands now the DISTRICT STANDINGS are:

1. Madison 4-0; 2-0

2. Reagan 3-1; 2-0
2. Roosevelt 3-1; 2-0

4. Mac 3-0; 1-0

5. SV 3-1; 1-1

6. Lee 2-1; 0-1

7. NB 2-2; 0-2

8. Johnson 1-3; 0-2

9. Churchill 0-4; 0-2

chainsaw83
09-22-2008, 02:19 AM
Try 4th best team in dist.:D

really? i had to specifically mention Madison and SV?

patient1019
09-22-2008, 10:47 AM
As it stands now the rankings are:

1. Madison 4-0; 2-0

2. Reagan 3-1; 2-0
2. Roosevelt 3-1; 2-0

4. Mac 3-0; 1-0

5. SV 3-1; 1-1

6. Lee 2-1; 0-1

7. NB 2-2; 0-2

8. Johnson 1-3; 0-2

9. Churchill 0-4; 0-2

This is going to change REALLY fast.

As far as standings go, this is spot on. If these are RANKINGS, then regardless of what we've yet to see, NB will never be below Lee and SV will more than likely take out Mac.

If Mac can stay healthy and not start self-destructing when they lose, they could contend very easily for a 7-3 record. Doing so would involve winning against Madison or Reagan, since I've already predicted losses to NB, SV, and either Mad or Reagan. This also means they have to take out Roosevelt, which could happen unless Roosy locks up on their consistency and maturity on the field. Plus, academic eligibility has always had Roosy's number.

My district ratings based on what we've seen and what I expect to see:

1. Madison (4-0, 2-0)
2. Reagan (3-1, 2-0)
3. Smithson Valley (3-1, 1-1)
4. MacArthur (3-0, 1-0)
5. New Braunfels (2-2, 0-2)
6. Roosevelt (3-1, 2-0)
7. Lee (1-2, 0-1)
8. Johnson (1-3, 0-2)
9. Churchill (0-4, 0-2)

I have Roosy at 6 right now for a couple of reasons. Yes, they're 3-1, but like Mac, they haven't beaten anybody. They lost TERRIBLY to a Tivy squad that couldn't handle Madison, and since then have taken out 0-3 Wagner, 1-2 Lee and 0-4 Churchill. I'm not sold on their maturity and consistency.

Why then, might you ask, is MacArthur at No. 4 when they arguably suffer from the same problems? Mostly the consistency. I think Mac, down the stretch, will prove to have their heads in the game more than Roosevelt. Now I could be wrong, but that's what we'll have to see.

New Braunfels is No. 5 because they're better than 0-2. I give them credit because they did what they were supposed to in pre-district, and then fell into the district meatgrinder of Madison and SV for opening games.

Reaga, I do not think, will stand for very long at No. 2. Granted, they are impressive thus far, but I think Madison and NB will take them out. I'm hoping Mac finds a way as well.

As for Churchill, they could EASILY go 0-10.

saMavsFan
09-22-2008, 12:15 PM
This is going to change REALLY fast.

As far as standings go, this is spot on. If these are RANKINGS, then regardless of what we've yet to see, NB will never be below Lee and SV will more than likely take out Mac.

I changed my post to say district standings. It was based purely on the records of the teams. A bit simplistic, I know, but it is what it is for now. If I were to RANK the teams right now I'd say:

1. Madison
2. SV
3. Reagan
4. Mac
5. NB
6. Roosevelt
7. Lee
8. Johnson
9. Churchill

patient1019
09-22-2008, 02:45 PM
I changed my post to say district standings. It was based purely on the records of the teams. A bit simplistic, I know, but it is what it is for now. If I were to RANK the teams right now I'd say:

1. Madison
2. SV
3. Reagan
4. Mac
5. NB
6. Roosevelt
7. Lee
8. Johnson
9. Churchill

Gotcha.

wizenbud
09-22-2008, 02:50 PM
I changed my post to say district standings. It was based purely on the records of the teams. A bit simplistic, I know, but it is what it is for now. If I were to RANK the teams right now I'd say:

1. Madison
2. SV
3. Reagan
4. Mac
5. NB
6. Roosevelt
7. Lee
8. Johnson
9. Churchill

TR may have lost to Tivy, but those kids have got their ship pointed in the right direction.
Now, Tivy DID NOT handle TR, the Riders shot themselves in the foot with dropped passes and poor deensive play calling. Plus, La Hue let the secret out about Armstrongs foot injury to start the season. Brandon is now running @ about 90%.
For those not keeping count, TR may have beaten 3 teams that aren't going anywhere. But they beat those teams like drums.
6 different recievers have caught td passes and the running game is starting to hit its stride. The D has begun to gel, the first team has only given up 13 points in the last 3 games. The rest of the points, 21 points have been scored on the 2nd & 3rd team D, late in games.
TR has their bye week to get ready for Reagan. Now, Reagan is a solid team, but they have yet to see the team speed coming for them next week.
Don't sleep on TR, or you will lose. ;)

saMavsFan
09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
TR may have lost to Tivy, but those kids have got their ship pointed in the right direction.
Now, Tivy DID NOT handle TR, the Riders shot themselves in the foot with dropped passes and poor deensive play calling. Plus, La Hue let the secret out about Armstrongs foot injury to start the season. Brandon is now running @ about 90%.
For those not keeping count, TR may have beaten 3 teams that aren't going anywhere. But they beat those teams like drums.
6 different recievers have caught td passes and the running game is starting to hit its stride. The D has begun to gel, the first team has only given up 13 points in the last 3 games. The rest of the points, 21 points have been scored on the 2nd & 3rd team D, late in games.
TR has their bye week to get ready for Reagan. Now, Reagan is a solid team, but they have yet to see the team speed coming for them next week.
Don't sleep on TR, or you will lose. ;)

I don't think anyone will sleep on Roosevelt after the performances they've given the past 3 weeks. That being said, we're getting into the classic argument about "Well who did they beat? Yes, but they beat them soundly!"

No one knows where Roosevelt stands. All anyone knows is that they're better than Churchill, Wagner, and Lee. Surprise suprise. The same reasoning can be applied to Mac, though Mac beat its opponents even more than Roosevelt did. NB has played the toughest two teams in the district on consecutive weeks. They may be 0-2 thusfar in district play, but I seriously doubt that will last. Reagan and SV are good for the 2/3 spots as it stands right now.

Johnson, Lee, Churchill...battle for last place.

I'll say it again, its way too early to judge where these teams will end up. Before the season there were 3/4 legitimate contenders for the district title. Now there are 6 with Madison, SV, NB, Reagan, Mac, and Roosevelt. It's all up in the air. But one thing is for sure: Sleep on anyone, let up for just one second, and your dreams of making the playoffs could go out the window.

MADMAVMOM
09-22-2008, 06:17 PM
I don't think anyone will sleep on Roosevelt after the performances they've given the past 3 weeks. That being said, we're getting into the classic argument about "Well who did they beat? Yes, but they beat them soundly!"

No one knows where Roosevelt stands. All anyone knows is that they're better than Churchill, Wagner, and Lee. Surprise suprise. The same reasoning can be applied to Mac, though Mac beat its opponents even more than Roosevelt did. NB has played the toughest two teams in the district on consecutive weeks. They may be 0-2 thusfar in district play, but I seriously doubt that will last. Reagan and SV are good for the 2/3 spots as it stands right now.

Johnson, Lee, Churchill...battle for last place.

I'll say it again, its way too early to judge where these teams will end up. Before the season there were 3/4 legitimate contenders for the district title. Now there are 6 with Madison, SV, NB, Reagan, Mac, and Roosevelt. It's all up in the air. But one thing is for sure: Sleep on anyone, let up for just one second, and your dreams of making the playoffs could go out the window.

That's scary!! But so true in 265a.

bobcat83
09-22-2008, 08:42 PM
If I had to pick right now I would say the following-making alot of assumptions and looking at the schedules-
Madison,Reagan and SV-playoffs
Winner of NB/Roosevelt takes the 4th spot-game is in NB and will take them if Wort is healthy.
1 most likely 2 playoff teams willave 3 losses in district with head to head breaking he tie.Mac may sneak in there with 3 losses but I'm thinking 4.
Of course injuries are not taken into consideration.The top 6 are pretty close and will make for some real good games. 265A might not be as strong as last year but it's more competitive top to bottom!

saMavsFan
09-23-2008, 12:14 AM
If I had to pick right now I would say the following-making alot of assumptions and looking at the schedules-
Madison,Reagan and SV-playoffs
Winner of NB/Roosevelt takes the 4th spot-game is in NB and will take them if Wort is healthy.
1 most likely 2 playoff teams willave 3 losses in district with head to head breaking he tie.Mac may sneak in there with 3 losses but I'm thinking 4.
Of course injuries are not taken into consideration.The top 6 are pretty close and will make for some real good games. 265A might not be as strong as last year but it's more competitive top to bottom!

That's a question I've been asking myself all through the offseason. We may be more competitive amongst eachother (even more so now with Mac and Reagan performing better than I expected), but how strong are we come playoff time?

The teams who come out of 265a, IMO, will have a decent chance of winning region 4. In division 2, it seems likely that whoever wins region 4 has a great chance of going to state. Maybe not so much in division 1 where, barring something freakish, all roads lead to Northshore. I don't know how that will turn out and its a long way away, but what do you guys think?

SaRattlerFan
09-23-2008, 07:46 AM
TR may have lost to Tivy, but those kids have got their ship pointed in the right direction.
Now, Tivy DID NOT handle TR, the Riders shot themselves in the foot with dropped passes and poor deensive play calling. Plus, La Hue let the secret out about Armstrongs foot injury to start the season. Brandon is now running @ about 90%.
For those not keeping count, TR may have beaten 3 teams that aren't going anywhere. But they beat those teams like drums.
6 different recievers have caught td passes and the running game is starting to hit its stride. The D has begun to gel, the first team has only given up 13 points in the last 3 games. The rest of the points, 21 points have been scored on the 2nd & 3rd team D, late in games.
TR has their bye week to get ready for Reagan. Now, Reagan is a solid team, but they have yet to see the team speed coming for them next week.
Don't sleep on TR, or you will lose. ;)

I think Wetzel will have his boys ready for TR. As for speed, Reagan has seen Warren who is not exactly a slow team.

wizenbud
09-23-2008, 01:34 PM
I think Wetzel will have his boys ready for TR. As for speed, Reagan has seen Warren who is not exactly a slow team.

I have seen Warren as well. That is a SLOW team compared TR. TR has the fastest WR's in the district and the 2nd best back in 26-5A. TR has the most balanced offense in 26-5A. Second best in the area for 5A. (behind Madison)
The defense doesn't have a player slower than 4.6 in 40's. All 4 starting DB's run 4.4 or better. The defensive line is fast and large.
Now, TR boys know for a fact that Reagan will be the biggest test so far. After the Rattlers beat SV, they became TR's target.

TR is the "step brother" in 26-5A, the team everybody wants to lose. The Velt boys know this and have embraced the challenge. The rest of the year should be fun. :D

atwelljroc
09-23-2008, 02:24 PM
I know that I am on the outside looking in, but I am a TR grad(class of '81)...so think this lets me speak on this matter...TR is 3-1...but the 3 they beat have a combined record of 1-9...that does not give me the confidence to say that TR is going to make the playoffs...this week it is Reagan who has a 3-1 record and their only loss is to Katy Cinco Ranch and they are 3-0...the 3 that Reagan have beaten are 5-7 over all...

So until Roosevelt defeats a quality team(Reagan would qualify as one)...I have my doubts about their true skill level...guess this week will tell us!!!:confused::confused:

wizenbud
09-23-2008, 02:59 PM
I know that I am on the outside looking in, but I am a TR grad(class of '81)...so think this lets me speak on this matter...TR is 3-1...but the 3 they beat have a combined record of 1-9...that does not give me the confidence to say that TR is going to make the playoffs...this week it is Reagan who has a 3-1 record and their only loss is to Katy Cinco Ranch and they are 3-0...the 3 that Reagan have beaten are 5-7 over all...

So until Roosevelt defeats a quality team(Reagan would qualify as one)...I have my doubts about their true skill level...guess this week will tell us!!!:confused::confused:

Reagan gets Lee this week. TR has their bye.
As for beating teams with a 1-9 record......... 128 - 34 score over the 3 wins.
(34-7 vs Wagner; 52-7 vs Churchill; 42-20 vs Lee, with 3 days prep and Lee coming off their bye) TR has played their starters for less than 1 1/2 games over the last 3. 6 different receivers have TD's. Armstrong is finally over his foot injury. The 1st team D has forced 10 to's, blocked 2 punts, blocked 3 pat's, and has given up 207 yds vs Wagner, 201 vs Churchill, 183 vs Lee in the last 3 games.
The change of defensive play calling after the embrassment of Tivy, has been the difference. Instead of playing back and soft, TR has placed their playmakers right up on the line of scrimmage. Now, the true test comes against Reagan, no doubt. But, I feel TR will have a coming out party come the 4th of October. But, that's my opinion, I am most likely wrong. :o

sa panther
09-23-2008, 03:12 PM
I've seen Roosevelt and Reagan play on consecutive weeks. Both of them pounded the team I was there to watch - Churchill.

Of course you do not get a true picture of how good a team is when the game is essentially over at halftime. But in my opinion, I thought Reagan looked slightly more impressive. With that being said, I would not bet a nickle on either team when they play each other.

wizenbud
09-23-2008, 03:20 PM
I've seen Roosevelt and Reagan play on consecutive weeks. Both of them pounded the team I was there to watch - Churchill.

Of course you do not get a true picture of how good a team is when the game is essentially over at halftime. But in my opinion, I thought Reagan looked slightly more impressive. With that being said, I would not bet a nickle on either team when they play each other.

You got that right !! For all the smack I talk, I wouldn't be surprised if Reagan ate our lunch. So, I'll get this out there right now, I am a HOMER.

So, everybody should take what I say with a "grain of salt". :D

SaRattlerFan
09-23-2008, 03:37 PM
I have seen Warren as well. That is a SLOW team compared TR. TR has the fastest WR's in the district and the 2nd best back in 26-5A. TR has the most balanced offense in 26-5A. Second best in the area for 5A. (behind Madison)
The defense doesn't have a player slower than 4.6 in 40's. All 4 starting DB's run 4.4 or better. The defensive line is fast and large.
Now, TR boys know for a fact that Reagan will be the biggest test so far. After the Rattlers beat SV, they became TR's target.

TR is the "step brother" in 26-5A, the team everybody wants to lose. The Velt boys know this and have embraced the challenge. The rest of the year should be fun. :D

Not sure why you call TR the "step brother", but I picked them as the district champ from the start. I have no doubt TR has speed, the question is can they avoid a meltdown if Reagan gets up early? If TR plays with discipline, Reagan could be in for a long night.

atwelljroc
09-23-2008, 03:46 PM
Reagan gets Lee this week. TR has their bye.
As for beating teams with a 1-9 record......... 128 - 34 score over the 3 wins.
(34-7 vs Wagner; 52-7 vs Churchill; 42-20 vs Lee, with 3 days prep and Lee coming off their bye) TR has played their starters for less than 1 1/2 games over the last 3. 6 different receivers have TD's. Armstrong is finally over his foot injury. The 1st team D has forced 10 to's, blocked 2 punts, blocked 3 pat's, and has given up 207 yds vs Wagner, 201 vs Churchill, 183 vs Lee in the last 3 games.
The change of defensive play calling after the embrassment of Tivy, has been the difference. Instead of playing back and soft, TR has placed their playmakers right up on the line of scrimmage. Now, the true test comes against Reagan, no doubt. But, I feel TR will have a coming out party come the 4th of October. But, that's my opinion, I am most likely wrong. :o


As I stated...I believe the week against Reagan will define TR's season...play well and win...they make playoffs...lose...they wait for next year...it's just my opinion...I have been and could be wrong...

wizenbud
09-23-2008, 05:33 PM
Not sure why you call TR the "step brother", but I picked them as the district champ from the start. I have no doubt TR has speed, the question is can they avoid a meltdown if Reagan gets up early? If TR plays with discipline, Reagan could be in for a long night.

You know, you are totally correct. There is one worry I have, what happens when a team gets the lead. Not a single score lead, but a two score lead early. So, I look to the side of hope and pray we don't get down. Not that TR couldn't come back from an early hole, they just haven't. The only game TR got behind in so far was Tivy. We all know how that turned out.
Still, some adjustments have been made since the first game. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

As for the "step-brother"remark........ After last years team of hotheads and thugs performance on the field, this team has been given the responsiblity to show class at a much higher level than most teams.
Take TR vs Lee last week. Lee was the team trash talking, trying to blow the TR's players cool. Not one TR player returned the favor. Churchill game, TR tears the Chargers apart. No trash talk, no show boating, just respect for the game. Wagner game was like, I hate to say it, a friendly game. Almost like a bunch of friends getting together on a Friday night to play some ball.
But, the game that shows that there has been a true change at TR, TIVY.
Tivy handed us our butts. I can say the defense wasn't called right and the recievers had trouble with nerves in the first game. But the facts are Tivy won and won big. Lost in the butt kicking, not one blow up,not one 15 yd penalty, and no cheapshots.

wizenbud
09-23-2008, 05:47 PM
I know that I am on the outside looking in, but I am a TR grad(class of '81)...so think this lets me speak on this matter...TR is 3-1...but the 3 they beat have a combined record of 1-9...that does not give me the confidence to say that TR is going to make the playoffs...this week it is Reagan who has a 3-1 record and their only loss is to Katy Cinco Ranch and they are 3-0...the 3 that Reagan have beaten are 5-7 over all...

So until Roosevelt defeats a quality team(Reagan would qualify as one)...I have my doubts about their true skill level...guess this week will tell us!!!:confused::confused:

I was just defending my boys, that's all. :D

atwelljroc
09-23-2008, 07:38 PM
I was just defending my boys, that's all. :D


KEEP IT UP!!! They deserve someone doing it for them!!! Right now they have put themselves in a good position...just got to keep playing well against better teams that are coming up in the schedule...

MADMAVMOM
09-23-2008, 09:11 PM
You know, you are totally correct. There is one worry I have, what happens when a team gets the lead. Not a single score lead, but a two score lead early. So, I look to the side of hope and pray we don't get down. Not that TR couldn't come back from an early hole, they just haven't. The only game TR got behind in so far was Tivy. We all know how that turned out.
Still, some adjustments have been made since the first game. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

As for the "step-brother"remark........ After last years team of hotheads and thugs performance on the field, this team has been given the responsiblity to show class at a much higher level than most teams.
Take TR vs Lee last week. Lee was the team trash talking, trying to blow the TR's players cool. Not one TR player returned the favor. Churchill game, TR tears the Chargers apart. No trash talk, no show boating, just respect for the game. Wagner game was like, I hate to say it, a friendly game. Almost like a bunch of friends getting together on a Friday night to play some ball.
But, the game that shows that there has been a true change at TR, TIVY.
Tivy handed us our butts. I can say the defense wasn't called right and the recievers had trouble with nerves in the first game. But the facts are Tivy won and won big. Lost in the butt kicking, not one blow up,not one 15 yd penalty, and no cheapshots.

Wow, I am SO GLAD to hear this. I have to admit that last year when Madison played TR, I was scared. TR was 'rough', to put it mildly. Lots of things going on down on that field that shouldn't have been. I was nervous about playing them this year, but feel better about it now. Glad these boys are taking the high road and playing the game the way they should. They deserve a successful season.

bobcat83
09-23-2008, 10:34 PM
I know that I am on the outside looking in, but I am a TR grad(class of '81)...so think this lets me speak on this matter...TR is 3-1...but the 3 they beat have a combined record of 1-9...that does not give me the confidence to say that TR is going to make the playoffs...this week it is Reagan who has a 3-1 record and their only loss is to Katy Cinco Ranch and they are 3-0...the 3 that Reagan have beaten are 5-7 over all...

So until Roosevelt defeats a quality team(Reagan would qualify as one)...I have my doubts about their true skill level...guess this week will tell us!!!:confused::confused:
I am also a TR grad and am not sold on them yet.They have it laid out in front of them.Reagan,NB,Mac,Madison and SV left to go-pretty daunting schedule.NB and SV on the road where there is true home field advantage.Beating Lee and Churchill mean nothing this year.So all the hype is still to be validated.If they succeed they will deserve all of our respect.

wizenbud
09-23-2008, 11:40 PM
I am also a TR grad and am not sold on them yet.They have it laid out in front of them.Reagan,NB,Mac,Madison and SV left to go-pretty daunting schedule.NB and SV on the road where there is true home field advantage.Beating Lee and Churchill mean nothing this year.So all the hype is still to be validated.If they succeed they will deserve all of our respect.


I might be wrong but, isn't SV's record better on the road than @ home ?
Not saying it makes any difference, just a question.

It is true that the meat of the schedule is ahead of TR. Yet, by my count, it takes 5 wins in district to make the playoffs. Everybody not named Churchill, Lee, or Johnson, will have 3 wins handed to them on a plate. That leaves 2 wins to get in. That's what makes the Reagan game SO important to TR. The reason TR has focused on this game. 2 weeks to get ready for a coming out party. Hopefully. :o

wizenbud
09-24-2008, 12:55 AM
By the way...... does anybody else ever get the feeling that when you state your opinion, you are really trying to con yourself into believing ?? :confused:

:p

bobcat83
09-24-2008, 03:03 AM
I might be wrong but, isn't SV's record better on the road than @ home ?
Not saying it makes any difference, just a question.It is true that the meat of the schedule is ahead of TR. Yet, by my count, it takes 5 wins in district to make the playoffs. Everybody not named Churchill, Lee, or Johnson, will have 3 wins handed to them on a plate. That leaves 2 wins to get in. That's what makes the Reagan game SO important to TR. The reason TR has focused on this game. 2 weeks to get ready for a coming out party. Hopefully. :o
SV has lost at home more in district but it's still a home field advantage.If they go into the SV game with a playoff spot on the line in week 11 AT Ranger Stadium it might be difficult.That's a long way away.Both will need to take care of their business to make that one interesting.

saMavsFan
09-24-2008, 03:20 PM
You know, you are totally correct. There is one worry I have, what happens when a team gets the lead. Not a single score lead, but a two score lead early. So, I look to the side of hope and pray we don't get down. Not that TR couldn't come back from an early hole, they just haven't. The only game TR got behind in so far was Tivy. We all know how that turned out.
Still, some adjustments have been made since the first game. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

As for the "step-brother"remark........ After last years team of hotheads and thugs performance on the field, this team has been given the responsiblity to show class at a much higher level than most teams.
Take TR vs Lee last week. Lee was the team trash talking, trying to blow the TR's players cool. Not one TR player returned the favor. Churchill game, TR tears the Chargers apart. No trash talk, no show boating, just respect for the game. Wagner game was like, I hate to say it, a friendly game. Almost like a bunch of friends getting together on a Friday night to play some ball.
But, the game that shows that there has been a true change at TR, TIVY.
Tivy handed us our butts. I can say the defense wasn't called right and the recievers had trouble with nerves in the first game. But the facts are Tivy won and won big. Lost in the butt kicking, not one blow up,not one 15 yd penalty, and no cheapshots.

I'm not one for giving credit where credit is due, :D, but Roosevelt did very well to control themselves in this game. Also have to give credit to Tivy. They're a damn good team this year. No shame in losing to them. I know Madison was very happy to have the game over with and felt lucky to come out of that scoring fest with a win. So all in all, Roosevelt has set themselves up for a very good year. It's been said, bulk of the schedule is in front of them. Win a few more against Reagan, Mac, maybe NB and the RoughRiders will be in the playoffs.

saMavsFan
09-24-2008, 03:21 PM
By the way...... does anybody else ever get the feeling that when you state your opinion, you are really trying to con yourself into believing ?? :confused:

:p

:notworthy Know the feeling. I remember a certain Madison fan who just KNEW we were going to beat Katy last year. Wasn't me, no of course not, couldn't have been.:o

longhorn3
09-24-2008, 06:12 PM
TR has team speed..if they can control their emotions and just play they will make the playoffs..not sure they won't implode however.

StrongDog
09-24-2008, 07:52 PM
I think TR has some talent yeah, saw that a bit last season, but do they have the coaching like some of the other teams have around the district?
Who is TR's coach anyway?

saMavsFan
09-24-2008, 08:37 PM
I think TR has some talent yeah, saw that a bit last season, but do they have the coaching like some of the other teams have around the district?
Who is TR's coach anyway?

neal lahue

bobcat83
09-24-2008, 08:54 PM
neal lahue

He is a very good coach-was the HC at Kerville Tivy,OC at Texas A&M Kingsville(Former QB), OC at Austin Westlake during the Drew Brees years.
He will win there or somewhere else.

StrongDog
09-24-2008, 10:30 PM
He is a very good coach-was the HC at Kerville Tivy,OC at Texas A&M Kingsville(Former QB), OC at Austin Westlake during the Drew Brees years.
He will win there or somewhere else.

Thanks I did not know that. Those are some pretty good credentials.

saMavsFan
09-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Reagan is smashing Lee...45-7 in the 45th last time I checked.

saMavsFan
09-25-2008, 09:24 PM
Make that 45-14, Lee got themselves a pick6...

saMavsFan
09-25-2008, 09:29 PM
Lee returning the ball...returner did a back hand spring for some reason, moving the ball to the Reagan 48, 1st down. 1:06 to go. Another first down to the 35...52seconds to go

Reagan 45-Lee 20...25seconds to go. Clock play...3 &10 on 35...Lee going deep... ...broken up. 4 & 10 w/ 10 seconds to go. 6 seconds...sacked. Game over.

Reagan 45...Lee 20. Misleading score, Reagan smashed 'em.

SaRattlerFan
09-26-2008, 07:32 AM
Very misleading score - Lee had no firstdowns and -2 yards of O in the first half. Reagan led 42-7 at the half and the starters didn't play the second half.

Reagan does need work on special teams - they gave a blocked field goal and blocked punt for a TD. Lee's other score came off an interception from the Reagan back-up QB.

I really do feel sorry for Lee. They are a 4A program trying to play a 5A schedule. They have no size and really only a couple of good athletes.

saMavsFan
09-26-2008, 09:04 AM
Very misleading score - Lee had no firstdowns and -2 yards of O in the first half. Reagan led 42-7 at the half and the starters didn't play the second half.

Reagan does need work on special teams - they gave a blocked field goal and blocked punt for a TD. Lee's other score came off an interception from the Reagan back-up QB.

I really do feel sorry for Lee. They are a 4A program trying to play a 5A schedule. They have no size and really only a couple of good athletes.

What Lee has is the oldest population in N.E.I.S.D. That's an old old old part of the city. Hasn't really been in the mix of things since the early 80's. Including their magnet school is the only way they make 5a numbers. Sad, because with some effort, they might be a decent 4a team.

wizenbud
09-28-2008, 01:59 AM
What Lee has is the oldest population in N.E.I.S.D. That's an old old old part of the city. Hasn't really been in the mix of things since the early 80's. Including their magnet school is the only way they make 5a numbers. Sad, because with some effort, they might be a decent 4a team.

If they were down in 4A, they would play Steele, Tivy, and Alamo Heights. Not much better. Lee is 6 players away on defense and 6 players on offense, from being a team with a chance. :(

saMavsFan
09-28-2008, 02:03 AM
If they were down in 4A, they would play Steele, Tivy, and Alamo Heights. Not much better. Lee is 6 players away on defense and 6 players on offense, from being a team with a chance. :(

I suppose it would depend on what 4a district you put them in, but you're exactly right. Lee would fare no better in 274a than they do in 265a.

wizenbud
09-28-2008, 02:06 AM
I suppose it would depend on what 4a district you put them in, but you're exactly right. Lee would fare no better in 274a than they do in 265a.

Isn't 27-4A the only 4A district near Lee ?

saMavsFan
09-28-2008, 02:08 AM
Isn't 27-4A the only 4A district near Lee ?

There's another one floating around here somewhere. Think Harlandale is in it.

wizenbud
09-28-2008, 03:13 AM
There's another one floating around here somewhere. Think Harlandale is in it.

Well then, I think Lee could roll in a district without the likes of Heights or Tivy. Let's start a drive to get Lee in a district they can rule for a while. :D