Lake Travis- 46 Evangel- 31

[Texasfrog]

Garrett Gilbert threw for 405 yards and 5 tds.

I would really like to see Lake Travis vs Longview sometime this season.

Anyway, Cajun I think that makes 30-7 now since 2003 but I'm not really counting.;):D

[LoboFan07]

That is a lot closer of a score than I was thinking it would be.

Congrats to LT.

[twcpfan1]

Where are Evangel ranked in Louisiana?

[Texasfrog]

Where are Evangel ranked in Louisiana?

LSWA Football Rankings -- Sept. 16
Rankings of high school football teams compiled by the Louisiana Sports Writers Association. First-place votes are in parentheses followed by total points. Points are based on 12 for a first-place votes, 11 for a second, etc.:

Class 5A
1. Acadiana (6) 1-0 135 1
2. West Monroe (2) 2-0 129 2
3. Destrehan (2) 1-0 118 3
4. John Ehret (2) 1-0 112 4
5. Barbe 1-0 98 7
6. East St. John 0-0 70 6
7. Dutchtown 1-0 56 9
8. St. Paul’s 2-0 54 NR
9. St. Thomas More 1-1 51 5
10. Byrd 2-0 35 NR
Others: Ruston 25, Central 10, Rummel 10, Brother Martin 7, Catholic-Baton Rouge 5, Lafayette 5, Carencro 4, Westgate 2, Hahnville 2, Comeaux 2.


Class 4A
1. Bastrop (12) 1-0 144 1
2. O.P. Walker 1-0 129 2
3. Eunice 1-0 118 3
4. Benton 1-0 97 5
5. Leesville 1-1 80 4
6. Teurlings Catholic 1-0 77 8
7. Helen Cox 1-0 74 9
8. Breaux Bridge 0-1 42 6
9. Haughton 2-0 39 NR
10. Neville 1-1 37 NR
Others: Shaw 34, Vandebilt Catholic 9, Franklinton 7, Zachary 4, Minden 4, Salmen 3, Alexandria 3, Washington-Marion 1.


Class 3A
1. Parkview Baptist (5) 1-0 131 2
2. Westlake (6) 0-0 128 1
3. Notre Dame (1) 1-0 122 3
4. Cecilia 1-0 104 6
5. Amite 1-0 101 7
6. Redemptorist 0-1 75 4
7. Lutcher 1-0 73 8
8. Rayville 2-0 58 9
9. Patterson 0-1 38 5
10. Rayne 2-0 35 NR
Others: Capitol Academy 23, E.D. White 15, Iowa 7, St. Louis 6, Wossman 5, North DeSoto 4, Independence 3, Iota 3, Marksville 3, Church Point 2.


Class 2A
1. John Curtis (9) 1-1 140 1
2. Calvary Baptist (2) 2-0 128 3
3. Evangel Christian 1-1 120 2
4. Port Barre 1-0 98 5
5. St. James 0-1 81 4
6. Homer 1-0 78 6
7. St. Thomas Aquinas (1) 1-0 75 7
8. Clinton 1-0 49 9
9. Mamou 1-0 40 9
10. Donaldsonville 0-0 38 10
Others: Rosepine 34, Many 10, St. Helena Central 9, DeQuincy 6, Oakdale 5, Lake Providence 5, University 4, Sacred Heart-Ville Platte 4, Kinder 1.

I expect Evangel will probably either end up #2 or #3 at the end of the season in Louisiana Class 2A. John Curtis will probably win like their 198th State Title (IMO) this season.

If you take all the Louisiana teams I think Evangel is probably somewhere in the #10 -#12 range overall.

[d-train]

Class 2A Evangel!

[cajun]

Garrett Gilbert threw for 405 yards and 5 tds.

I would really like to see Lake Travis vs Longview sometime this season.

Anyway, Cajun I think that makes 30-7 now since 2003 but I'm not really counting.;):D

Yeah, Evangel had almost 500 yards total yards offense...

One thing is for sure..

Watched the highlights...Don't "hit" Garrett Gilbert-they don't like it....

Jesus Christ!

Anyways, congrats to Lake Travis...

[cajun]

Garrett Gilbert threw for 405 yards and 5 tds.

I would really like to see Lake Travis vs Longview sometime this season.

Anyway, Cajun I think that makes 30-7 now since 2003 but I'm not really counting.;):D

Longview would crush Lake Travis..Wouldn't be much to see...

[d-train]

Garrett Gilbert threw for 405 yards and 5 tds.

I would really like to see Lake Travis vs Longview sometime this season.

Anyway, Cajun I think that makes 30-7 now since 2003 but I'm not really counting.;):D
He had over 300 yards in the 2nd quarter.

[Texasfrog]

Ya, it's funny. Gilbert throws for over 400 yards & 5 tds and somehow Cajun fins something negative to say about the kid.:rolleyes:

I guess Lake Travis should of had Evangels QB.:D

[Texasfrog]

Longview would crush Lake Travis..Wouldn't be much to see...

And the Expert says Longview would crush Lake Travis.. "OK.":rolleyes::rolleyes:

[d-train]

And the Expert says Longview would crush Lake Travis.. "OK.":rolleyes::rolleyes:
Lake Travis is an HP clone, with a better QB and ok defense.

[Texasfrog]

Lake Travis is an HP clone, with a better QB and ok defense.

Three pretty solid Tx 4A teams in Lake Travis, HP and Longview. I would say on any Friday night it would be whose playing their "A" game the best that wins.

I wouldnt say that any team would blowout the other by any stretch of the imagination.

Honestly, I think it has something to do with the butt whipping Longview gave Evangel last week more then anything.:rolleyes:

[steeler 01]

Longview would crush Lake Travis..Wouldn't be much to see...

I agree. Much like Mater Dei here in Cali. LT is slow as hell on defense. Their lines are average, and the comp their facing has been weak. Westlake was really bad. ECA is way down. Frog trying to prop this team up is a joke.

[cajun]

Ya, it's funny. Gilbert throws for over 400 yards & 5 tds and somehow Cajun fins something negative to say about the kid.:rolleyes:

I guess Lake Travis should of had Evangels QB.:D

Evangel quarterback Dez Duron was 27-of-40 passing for 312 yards four touchdowns.

The Eagles (1-2) also got 192 yards rushing from CerDerrick Tyson on 23 carries. Tyson also had a touchdown...

Evangel had 24 first downs and 488 yards total offense. Lake Travis had 25 first downs and 498 yards total offense...

Yeah, Longview would crush Lake Travis...Believe that..

[jakerz]

A speedy defense vs. Lake Travis = win.

Gilbert is the real deal though

[Texasfrog]

Evangel quarterback Dez Duron was 27-of-40 passing for 312 yards four touchdowns.

The Eagles (1-2) also got 192 yards rushing from CerDerrick Tyson on 23 carries. Tyson also had a touchdown...

Evangel had 24 first downs and 488 yards total offense. Lake Travis had 25 first downs and 498 yards total offense...

Yeah, Longview would crush Lake Travis...Believe that..

Oh boy, throwing some Stats at me too try and prove some stupid point. The Stat that counts the most at the end of the day is the score stat (46-31);)

Evangel would matchup pretty good with (0-3) Austin Westlake. That would be a decent game and go deep into the 4th Qt.

What I would believe is Lake Travis vs Longview on the field. You telling me that Longview would crush Lake Travis is kind of joke. Beat.? Maybe.
Crush, Highly doubt it.;)

Like I said before, I think most of your opinion is based on the butt spanking Longview put on Evangel.

Longview vs Lake Travis= Hard fought 4th Qt game.

Spare me the BS stats. I can look at just about everyone one of Lake Travis games so far and see where kids had success on the offense from Princton Collins (RR Westwood) to Ryan Swope (Westlake).;)

[d-train]

A speedy defense vs. Lake Travis = win.

Gilbert is the real deal though
Dayton, Connally both had speed and lost. You need speed in coverage and a good interior defense to stop the run and force things wide so that you can use your speed. If you allow them to run up the gut you are through! Good athletes at LB is a plus cause they will tackle Gilbert and he won't be a running threat. You also better have an offense that can put up some points, and don't get duped on special teams. They will go for two and do onsides and pooch kicks to save their defense from getting winded cause they run no huddle/hurry up offense.

[Texasfrog]

Dayton, Connally both had speed and lost. You need speed in coverage and a good interior defense to stop the run and force things wide so that you can use your speed. If you allow them to run up the gut you are through! Good athletes at LB is a plus cause they will tackle Gilbert and he won't be a running threat. You also better have an offense that can put up some points, and don't get duped on special teams. They will go for two and do onsides and pooch kicks to save their defense from getting winded cause they run no huddle/hurry up offense.

I agree with you. Basically Lake Travis defense goes by the "bend dont break" method. They wont shut out anyone but rely on slowing down the other teams offense enough to let their (Lake Travis) offense run & gun.

Pretty much the same goes with Highland Park.

I do think Longview would enjoy some running success on Lake Travis but I dont think Longview defense would shut down Lake Travis offense either.

[cajun]

Spare me the BS stats. I can look at just about everyone one of Lake Travis games so far and see where kids had success on the offense from Princton Collins (RR Westwood) to Ryan Swope (Westlake).;)

Ok, don't look at them, the stats that is...:rolleyes:

I don't really care either way!

[PvilleSoCold]

LOL Longview would get crushed by Lake Travis it wouldnt even be close. Longview players are too small and not fast. We played them in playoff's last year. Game was over in the first quarter and there whole team took a beating. Austin area teams are bigger, faster, and stronger then longview.

[Texasfrog]

Ok, don't look at them, the stats that is...:rolleyes:

I don't really care either way!

Stats so many times can be so misleading about games. But, I honestly dont get your point about posting them. Are you trying to make some kind of claim that Evangel has done something on Lake Travis that no other team in Texas has been able to do to Lake Travis ?

You can look at several other games this year against Lake Travis and see some of those similiar stats.

The bottom line is Lake Travis wins. Defense "bends" and offensive "Scores."

I'm also not saying Longview wouldnt beat Lake Travis. I'm just not so sure about the "CRUSH" part.

I think it would be a tough hard fought game that goes almost 48 minutes. Probably come down to who wins the turnover battle.

[jtk1519]

This thread makes jtk LOL. Longview would crush LT?! Seriously?! BWAHAHAHAHA!! It would certainly be one helluva game, but LT is clearly the better team and would definitely win what would probably be a high scoring game. Highland Park would give LT a better game than Longview simply because HP plays a style that would work better against LT's defense and because HP is the only team that could get in a shootout with Lake Travis and have enough bullets to make it damn close or even win.

[cajun]

Stats so many times can be so misleading about games. But, I honestly dont get your point about posting them. Are you trying to make some kind of claim that Evangel has done something on Lake Travis that no other team in Texas has been able to do to Lake Travis ?

You can look at several other games this year against Lake Travis and see some of those similiar stats.

The bottom line is Lake Travis wins. Defense "bends" and offensive "Scores."

I'm also not saying Longview wouldnt beat Lake Travis. I'm just not so sure about the "CRUSH" part.

I think it would be a tough hard fought game that goes almost 48 minutes. Probably come down to who wins the turnover battle.

I just put the stats out there...You decide what you wanna do with them...

Yeah, Evangel's stats are misleading, but Lake Travis's aren't...Nice frog-that's classic even for you...

Yeah, 31 points is some pretty good bending...

[cajun]

This thread makes jtk LOL. Longview would crush LT?!

Yep...

[PvilleSoCold]

Cajun your crazy. Longviews team is softer than a plate of mashed potatoes.

[Hitman49]

I agree. Much like Mater Dei here in Cali. LT is slow as hell on defense. Their lines are average, and the comp their facing has been weak. Westlake was really bad. ECA is way down. Frog trying to prop this team up is a joke.

You know nothing!!

[SLC]

Great job LT!!;)

You help Texas to continue to show why this is THE premier HSF state.:notworthy

And btw.... With all due respect to my Cajun friend (love ya dude)... But there is no way the Lobo's could beat LT... Just wouldn't happen.. LT is the real deal... and will proly win another state title this season... Longview not so much... The Travis team is good in all facets of the game... defense will give up some points... But they will score more than you can.... Flat out powerfull offense.

[cajun]

Great job LT!!;)

And btw.... With all due respect to my Cajun friend (love ya dude)... But there is no way the Lobo's could beat LT....

Maybe so, you all know more than me...

I'd put my money on Longview though...AND, I like my money!..:D

[SLC]

Maybe so, you all know more than me...

I'd put my money on Longview though...AND, I like my money!..:D

I like your money too.:D

[steeler 01]

You know nothing!!

Coming from you thats a compliment. I think your football knowledge is pretty bad.

[Hitman49]

Coming from you thats a compliment. I think your football knowledge is pretty bad.

I have forgot more about this game then you will ever know!!

[Mr Evangel]

The QB from LT is the real deal, real impressed with him during the game and even more after the game for his actions. He is a class act and a helluva football player. Since I have been at both games, I would give the edge to Longview, their defensive line is quicker and puts pressure on very well. I don't think it would be a blowout but I do think that Longview could win by 10. Longview is young this year but are very talented not to say that LT is not. They are two different types of teams. Longview runs the ball very well and LT has a great passing game. Many times last night I thought Gilbert would be sacked on to have that bazooka of a arm find its way into a receiver's chest. Impressed with both teams, we played a lot better last night and if not for a couple key turnovers a fumble and a int might have been closer. Had one turnover taken away which the film showed that it was a INT. Great atmosphere last night, and very gracious LT fans that were very complimentary of our team after it was over. I will follow both teams closely thoughout the rest of the season. Good luck to both!

[Texasfrog]

Maybe so, you all know more than me... Without any question when it comes to Tx HS football. Heck, I even think La HS football too most of the time.;)

I'd put my money on Longview though...AND, I like my money!..:D

In bold.;)

[Texasfrog]

I have forgot more about this game then you will ever know!!

You gotta Love this Steeler dude. Now I'm propping up Lake Travis HS football team by saying they have a "bend dont break defense" and a "high powered offense" and I think the Longview vs Lake Travis game would be a toss-up type of game.

Of coarse it's just ole Steeler and it's probably just a matter of time before he starts ranting that Clovis East sucks.

Hey Steeler, I would still take Garrett Gilbert anyday of the weeks over the interception machine named Matt Barkley for Mater Dei.;)

PS. Nice artical about Steve Clarkson (Mr.Self proclaimed QB guru) recruiting some hotshot kid from some Northeastern State to move to California and come play for Mater Dei. They dont recruit do they ???

I mean it's just freaking in a National Magizine for all too see. But, they dont recruit.:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:

[Texasfrog]

The QB from LT is the real deal, real impressed with him during the game and even more after the game for his actions. He is a class act and a helluva football player. Since I have been at both games, I would give the edge to Longview, their defensive line is quicker and puts pressure on very well. I don't think it would be a blowout but I do think that Longview could win by 10. Longview is young this year but are very talented not to say that LT is not. They are two different types of teams. Longview runs the ball very well and LT has a great passing game. Many times last night I thought Gilbert would be sacked on to have that bazooka of a arm find its way into a receiver's chest. Impressed with both teams, we played a lot better last night and if not for a couple key turnovers a fumble and a int might have been closer. Had one turnover taken away which the film showed that it was a INT. Great atmosphere last night, and very gracious LT fans that were very complimentary of our team after it was over. I will follow both teams closely thoughout the rest of the season. Good luck to both!

Good Post Mr.Evangel. Wow, It's amazing that you think a possible matchup with Longview vs Lake Travis would be a tough hard-fought affair after seeing both teams in person.

I mean Cajun (aka. Swamp-rat) has said that Longview would blowout Lake Travis so that's gotta be true because he is always right.:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

[Hitman49]

Stats so many times can be so misleading about games. But, I honestly dont get your point about posting them. Are you trying to make some kind of claim that Evangel has done something on Lake Travis that no other team in Texas has been able to do to Lake Travis ?

You can look at several other games this year against Lake Travis and see some of those similiar stats.

The bottom line is Lake Travis wins. Defense "bends" and offensive "Scores."

I'm also not saying Longview wouldnt beat Lake Travis. I'm just not so sure about the "CRUSH" part.

I think it would be a tough hard fought game that goes almost 48 minutes. Probably come down to who wins the turnover battle.

Was it 39-12 at half time? If so, sometimes hard for young athletes to keep focus in the 2nd half when kicking butt in the first.

I gotta believe Longview would have enough Defense to win against LT. Maybe we will get that game much later in the season.

[Hitman49]

You gotta Love this Steeler dude. Now I'm propping up Lake Travis HS football team by saying they have a "bend dont break defense" and a "high powered offense" and I think the Longview vs Lake Travis game would be a toss-up type of game.

Of coarse it's just ole Steeler and it's probably just a matter of time before he starts ranting that Clovis East sucks.

Hey Steeler, I would still take Garrett Gilbert anyday of the weeks over the interception machine named Matt Barkley for Mater Dei.;)

PS. Nice artical about Steve Clarkson (Mr.Self proclaimed QB guru) recruiting some hotshot kid from some Northeastern State to move to California and come play for Mater Dei. They dont recruit do they ???

I mean it's just freaking in a National Magizine for all too see. But, they dont recruit.:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:

Frog- Don't worry about Steeler, he knows nothin! He wants to act like he knows the quality of competition that LT has played. He is a Texas Hater that is for sure. He says we are homers! That is the only thing he has ever got correct concerning anything. Steeler, it is great to be a homer in the best High School Football State.

[Hitman49]

You gotta Love this Steeler dude. Now I'm propping up Lake Travis HS football team by saying they have a "bend dont break defense" and a "high powered offense" and I think the Longview vs Lake Travis game would be a toss-up type of game.

Of coarse it's just ole Steeler and it's probably just a matter of time before he starts ranting that Clovis East sucks.

Hey Steeler, I would still take Garrett Gilbert anyday of the weeks over the interception machine named Matt Barkley for Mater Dei.;)

PS. Nice artical about Steve Clarkson (Mr.Self proclaimed QB guru) recruiting some hotshot kid from some Northeastern State to move to California and come play for Mater Dei. They dont recruit do they ???

I mean it's just freaking in a National Magizine for all too see. But, they dont recruit.:rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:

I would take Gilbert over that California kid who starts for Notre Dame too.

Frog- You want to talk about recruiting the school that kid played at Oaks Christian in California leads the pack. In my opinion all that recruited talent made him look much better then he really is.

[steeler 01]

PS. Nice artical about Steve Clarkson (Mr.Self proclaimed QB guru) recruiting some hotshot kid from some Northeastern State to move to California and come play for Mater Dei. They dont recruit do they ???

I mean it's just freaking in a National Magizine for all too see. But, they dont recruit.:rolleyes::eek:

Why would a QB want to go to MD? Their not gonna play. Barkley even though I think hes way overrated. Will not lose his starting spot. Not to mention Steve Clarkson was a member of the Air 7 combine. Now hes with Debartolo sports academy and has no affiliation with MD. Looks like you've been duped again. Keep reading those National magazines and telling us how you know everything.;);):D

[lysol]

I agree. Much like Mater Dei here in Cali. LT is slow as hell on defense. Their lines are average, and the comp their facing has been weak. Westlake was really bad. ECA is way down. Frog trying to prop this team up is a joke.


this dude must be ********... hey how about you quit trying to live through your kid and get a job... man

[LoboFan07]

Longviews team is softer than a plate of mashed potatoes.


:rolleyes: :laugh:laugh:laugh :rolleyes:

[Texasfrog]

Was it 39-12 at half time? If so, sometimes hard for young athletes to keep focus in the 2nd half when kicking butt in the first.

I gotta believe Longview would have enough Defense to win against LT. Maybe we will get that game much later in the season.

Exactly !! Plus, you start giving up a lot of underneath stuff to protect against big deep plays which usually means some extra bonus stats for the behind team.;)

[Texasfrog]

I would take Gilbert over that California kid who starts for Notre Dame too.

Frog- You want to talk about recruiting the school that kid played at Oaks Christian in California leads the pack. In my opinion all that recruited talent made him look much better then he really is.

Ya, did you read the artical on Rivals about Oaks Christian Academy and their recruiting. Many of the California HS public school coaches in that region are starting to :Censor: because of the unfairness of the system.

Totally agree though.. Stack a team with many D-1A prospects and play against a lot of inferior caliber teams 95% of the time and you can really pad those stats. Along with a super Press-Hype machine pushing your name.

He has supposely one of the best offensive minds as his college HC and is in a offense totally revamped for him and he still isnt crap. At least to the Super human QB hype that they built him up to be. Just another Ron Powlus if you ask me. US Army All-American game that year was funny because NBC pushed Clausen like he second-coming but Ryan Mallett (Texas High) out played him all day long at the QB spot.

Then Ryan Mallett backed it up by outplaying him in the Michigan vs Notre Dame game last year when both freshman QB's played 90% of the game.;)
Ryan Mallett is clearly the much better QB then Clausen with size, arm strength (no question there) and even mobility.

I've seen two Matt Barkley (Mater Dei) games on tv now and in both games he really hasnt done anything to impress me as far as being the #1 recruit and QB in the nation. :rolleyes:

I would take Garrett Gilbert over him anyday. Gilbert is more mobile and much more accurate and doesnt make anywhere near the bad throws.

[Aggies2009]

LOL Longview would get crushed by Lake Travis it wouldnt even be close. Longview players are too small and not fast. We played them in playoff's last year. Game was over in the first quarter and there whole team took a beating. Austin area teams are bigger, faster, and stronger then longview.

First of all, the game was like 7-0 at the end of the first quarter, so to say the game was over is ignorant. It was going to be 14-7 at half, but a squirly TD put Pflugerville up 20-7. That's hardly "over", even at halftime. Third of all, turnovers killed Longview, not because they were smaller, slower, and weaker.

Finally, if Austin area teams are so much bigger, faster, and stronger than Longview, why did Leander get trounced the week before by Longview? Wow, there went that theory of yours about Austin area teams. Did you TRY to post something so stupid? Or did you not mean to? I hope you meant to.

[steeler 01]

He has supposely one of the best offensive minds as his college HC and is in a offense totally revamped for him and he still isnt crap. At least to the Super human QB hype that they built him up to be. Just another Ron Powlus if you ask me.
What can one of the best offensive minds do when you have no weapons? How many great athletes does Notre Dame have Mr. Genius?

Then Ryan Mallett backed it up by outplaying him in the Michigan vs Notre Dame game last year when both freshman QB's played 90% of the game.;)
Ryan Mallett is clearly the much better QB then Clausen with size, arm strength (no question there) and even mobility.
How much talent did Clausen have last year on that Notre Dame team? Michigan had more athletes than Notre Dame. Which is sad since Michigan didn't have many athletes to begin with.

I would take Garrett Gilbert over him anyday. Gilbert is more mobile and much more accurate and doesnt make anywhere near the bad throws.
How many top Texas teams has Gilbert faced?


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[c-lisle]

LOL Longview would get crushed by Lake Travis it wouldnt even be close. Longview players are too small and not fast. We played them in playoff's last year. Game was over in the first quarter and there whole team took a beating. Austin area teams are bigger, faster, and stronger then longview.

thats why we crushed Leander just a few weeks before we played you. you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Hitman49]

thats why we crushed Leander just a few weeks before we played you. you have no idea what you are talking about.


I would go with Pflugerville against LT this year and last year.

[d-train]

I would go with Pflugerville against LT this year and last year.
Then you got CRUSHED 35-14 vs a fumbling, one dimensional, wing-t team!

[d-train]

First of all, the game was like 7-0 at the end of the first quarter, so to say the game was over is ignorant. It was going to be 14-7 at half, but a squirly TD put Pflugerville up 20-7. That's hardly "over", even at halftime. Third of all, turnovers killed Longview, not because they were smaller, slower, and weaker.

Finally, if Austin area teams are so much bigger, faster, and stronger than Longview, why did Leander get trounced the week before by Longview? Wow, there went that theory of yours about Austin area teams. Did you TRY to post something so stupid? Or did you not mean to? I hope you meant to.
Why did you lose 21-7 to Allen? Had a hard time scoring on a REAL 5A team instead of an East Texas Street baller!

[Pinion]

I was at that game.
No, they dont like it when Gilbert gets hit. In fact, they get rather pissy about it. saying that, he's still just as lethal while he's being hit as when he isnt being hit. Gilbert is good because his mental game is better than his physical game.
ECA lost that game because they were NOT the better team. Not by a longshot. The score should have been closer than what it was. 2 things that kept that from happening. ECA blowing extra points for whatever reason. And the refs. either way though, ECA was going to lose that game.

ECA is down. Down from what? Down from where they were 5-10 years ago.

Longview Vs. Lake Travis. Longview would win that. The only way Longview would lose that game would be if it was a playoff game and Longview nutted up like they tend to do in playoff games from time to time. Longview wins that game. The only way I can see Longview losing that game is if LT jumps out by 2-3 scores really fast. Then, Longview would have their hands full.

[Texasfrog]

Let me guess.. Private schools dont really recruit:rolleyes::rolleyes: ?

I hear there is some Ocean front property for sale in Idaho with an altitude of 8,000 feet.:D

Private schools dont recruit ever, They have a very strict attendance zone kids come from, and they dont give scholarships to athletes (financial aid). Plus, they have a very tough academic test before they can qualify for the school.

What is the strict attendance zone for Evangel ? Shreveport.. "LOL."

[Pinion]

Let me guess.. Private schools dont really recruit:rolleyes::rolleyes: ?

I hear there is some Ocean front property for sale in Idaho with an altitude of 8,000 feet.:D

Private schools dont recruit ever, They have a very strict attendance zone kids come from, and they dont give scholarships to athletes (financial aid). Plus, they have a very tough academic test before they can qualify for the school.

What is the strict attendance zone for Evangel ? Shreveport.. "LOL."

Uh. What does anything in this conversation have to do with recruiting? Nothing. If you want people to take you seriously on something, you should try to not pull some stupid pointless arguement out of the air. ECA follows the rules set forth by the LHSAA. They follow them. I dont know any other way for that to make sense to you. The LHSAA (the La, UIL) makes rules and ECA follows them. And ECA is looked at awfully hard over there, just like all the other private schools with any history of success. Because people like you blow your hole about it all the time. So again, I have to ask, what does that have to do with this? Nothing. Furthermore, until you've lived in Louisiana and attended private schools for the bulk of your grade school and high school years, it would best to STFU. You really dont know what you're talking about and everytime you mention something you know nothing about, it shows.

Yes, ECA provides financial aid to some students. Some athletes, some not. A lot of private schools do that. They're allowed to. Public school gets are getting financial aid. The taxpayers.

Attendance Zone. I cannot tell you the exact attendance zone of ECA. I can tell you it is exactly the same attendance zone of Huntington High School (public 5A, shreveport).

Academic test. I dont know if ECA does that or not. When I transferred there from a public I dont recall if I had to or not. I know they interviewed me beforehand. I dont recall a test. I would prolly remember that. I had to cut my hair though, I do remember that. They more than likely dont have an kind of entrance exam. Why should they? Do public schools have an entrance exam they administer before a kid is allowed to go there? Well, I'm paying for those kids to be there and I think they should. Anyway, I transferred to ECA from a public school in Shreveport that's not in the ECA attendance zone. I interviewed with the people. went home and cut my hair. started school there that fall. I was unable to play any sports that first year because I came from outside the attendance zone. I think you'd be shocked at how many kids will sit that year out in order to be able to play the next year.

You know all these things though. You've heard them time and time again. I dont understand why you feel the need to have it told to you over and over. You should know it all by now since you know everything there is to know about sports and schools in Louisiana. I mean, are you testing me to see if I know?

Go back to your flagfootball scouting and the discussions where actual facts are concerned to those of us that actually know what we're talking about.

[AHSeagles]

Uh. What does anything in this conversation have to do with recruiting? Nothing. If you want people to take you seriously on something, you should try to not pull some stupid pointless arguement out of the air. ECA follows the rules set forth by the LHSAA. They follow them. I dont know any other way for that to make sense to you. The LHSAA (the La, UIL) makes rules and ECA follows them. And ECA is looked at awfully hard over there, just like all the other private schools with any history of success. Because people like you blow your hole about it all the time. So again, I have to ask, what does that have to do with this? Nothing. Furthermore, until you've lived in Louisiana and attended private schools for the bulk of your grade school and high school years, it would best to STFU. You really dont know what you're talking about and everytime you mention something you know nothing about, it shows.

Yes, ECA provides financial aid to some students. Some athletes, some not. A lot of private schools do that. They're allowed to. Public school gets are getting financial aid. The taxpayers.

Attendance Zone. I cannot tell you the exact attendance zone of ECA. I can tell you it is exactly the same attendance zone of Huntington High School (public 5A, shreveport).

Academic test. I dont know if ECA does that or not. When I transferred there from a public I dont recall if I had to or not. I know they interviewed me beforehand. I dont recall a test. I would prolly remember that. I had to cut my hair though, I do remember that. They more than likely dont have an kind of entrance exam. Why should they? Do public schools have an entrance exam they administer before a kid is allowed to go there? Well, I'm paying for those kids to be there and I think they should. Anyway, I transferred to ECA from a public school in Shreveport that's not in the ECA attendance zone. I interviewed with the people. went home and cut my hair. started school there that fall. I was unable to play any sports that first year because I came from outside the attendance zone. I think you'd be shocked at how many kids will sit that year out in order to be able to play the next year.

You know all these things though. You've heard them time and time again. I dont understand why you feel the need to have it told to you over and over. You should know it all by now since you know everything there is to know about sports and schools in Louisiana. I mean, are you testing me to see if I know?

Go back to your flagfootball scouting and the discussions where actual facts are concerned to those of us that actually know what we're talking about.

Just want to throw this in since we're talking about private schools. After hurricane Katrina, Joe McKnight went from John Curtis to Evangel Christian until JC was reopened. I wonder how it came about that a top notch nationally ranked player would go to what's considered one of the best programs in Louisiana that just so happens to be a private school?:rolleyes: I think there was a little motivation for McKnight on that one.

[AHSeagles]

I will throw in that he only played two games for Evangel, but it still looks a little suspicious.

[cajun]

Just want to throw this in since we're talking about private schools. After hurricane Katrina, Joe McKnight went from John Curtis to Evangel Christian until JC was reopened. I wonder how it came about that a top notch nationally ranked player would go to what's considered one of the best programs in Louisiana that just so happens to be a private school?:rolleyes: I think there was a little motivation for McKnight on that one.

Weren't too many places for Joe to play during those days after the storm..(lol)....We was under water!

Anyways, East St John had 20 kids join their team after the storm...Kids were going everywhere....Not good days at all...

Movie that just came out-explains alittle about those days...

http://www.walkingondeadfish.com/trailer.htm

http://www.walkingondeadfish.com/film.htm

[cajun]

The score should have been closer than what it was. 2 things that kept that from happening. ECA blowing extra points for whatever reason. And the refs. either way though, ECA was going to lose that game.



Evangel went for "2" twice-missed both, had one blocked and missed one...Evangel had no problems moving the ball....

Gilbert is a stud, no doubt about that...Kid can play...

I do think Lake Travis had alittle home cooking in this one though, just my opinion...

Hey, game is over and time to move on...

Just glad Evangel didn't lay an egg...

[Pinion]

Just want to throw this in since we're talking about private schools. After hurricane Katrina, Joe McKnight went from John Curtis to Evangel Christian until JC was reopened. I wonder how it came about that a top notch nationally ranked player would go to what's considered one of the best programs in Louisiana that just so happens to be a private school?:rolleyes: I think there was a little motivation for McKnight on that one.

Yes, he did. His school was closed for a bit due to Katrina. He wanted to play ball. He, like a lot of people, knew ECA's history. The LHSAA commissioner said that kids from affected areas were allowed to go to any school they wanted pretty much.

Him leaving a closed down JohnCurtis for ECA didnt seem to shock too many people. He left what was pretty much the #1 program in the state due to a hurricane and came to what was prolly a 2nd or 3rd ranked program. And ECA is a private school. Most people that are educated in a private system would rather stay with something they kinda know.

another note to add. I'm pretty sure it's still this way, but when I was in school (graduated early 90's) a kid could transfer from one private to another pretty much as he/she wanted.

I know when I went from private to public I couldnt get my butt back into a private fast enough. You have to remember that public schools in Louisiana are not what they are over here in Texas. I'm sure Texas has their share of crappy publics as well, but most of Louisiana's publics simply are not good educational institutions. I hate to say that, but it's true. There is a reason why Louisiana is 2nd to last in almost everything. It starts from the top and goes down. The education system is not spared from this.

[Mr Evangel]

Everything that was listed in the last couple threads are true. You have to pass a outside source in order to get aid to the school and it is adminstered to everyone not just athletes. I know several students whom don't particpate in anything but just go to school that gets aid. Our attendance zone is Huntington's attendance zone and regardless of what school in Shreveport/Bossier that you come from, you have to sit out a year unless you move into the zone. Most of our kids have been with us since elementary school and jr high school. We get about 2 transfers on average a year except for the hurricane year in 2005 in which we got about 125 only for most to go back after a few weeks, in all I think about 33 stayed and only 3 athletes out of that group in 05. It costs about $4500 a year to go to Evangel plus different fees such as a athletic fee which is $200 to particpate. I know of one kid that works fulltime in the summer and on weekends after football season to pay his own tutiion because he doesn't want to go to the La public schools, his mother and dad said if you can pay it you can go! We dress out about 65 kids from 9th though 12th at the moment, back when I first got there we had over a hundred. Our junior high programs have over 70 kids coming up in it. Most folks like to get a good education and have good athletics that go along with it and Texas schools beat all of La public schools hollow in education and facilities.

[PvilleSoCold]

First of all, the game was like 7-0 at the end of the first quarter, so to say the game was over is ignorant. It was going to be 14-7 at half, but a squirly TD put Pflugerville up 20-7. That's hardly "over", even at halftime. Third of all, turnovers killed Longview, not because they were smaller, slower, and weaker.

Finally, if Austin area teams are so much bigger, faster, and stronger than Longview, why did Leander get trounced the week before by Longview? Wow, there went that theory of yours about Austin area teams. Did you TRY to post something so stupid? Or did you not mean to? I hope you meant to.

Are you trying to chruch up the beat down your team received? That game wasn't even close. Lol because Longview was so small and weak your team got ran on like a treadmill. As for team speed there wasn't any.. Good point on Leander I forgot yall whipped them I didn't see the game maybe someone could fill me in on what exactly happend. If you don't believe Austin area teams are better make it to the 4a State Championship and prove it. I know Lake Travis will be there.

[GameTyme]

Are you trying to chruch up the beat down your team received? That game wasn't even close. Lol because Longview was so small and weak your team got ran on like a treadmill. As for team speed there wasn't any.. Good point on Leander I forgot yall whipped them I didn't see the game maybe someone could fill me in on what exactly happend. If you don't believe Austin area teams are better make it to the 4a State Championship and prove it. I know Lake Travis will be there.


Thats why Lufkin handed Pville there *** in 2004 at Kyle. Get at me when a team from the Austin area in 5A wins a championship this decade. Also in 2001 who did Lufkin feed in the state championship game no other then the King of Austin in Westlake.

Just because Pville had some magical run to state and got there *** blown off the field doent mean shi*

RR is the only team from the Austin area that has some balls. Also Longview is going to kill Lake Travis. I love the fact that people actually think this will be close, and that Lake Travis is the favorite. LMAO we will see both are Div 1 locks something has got to give.

[Aggies2009]

Are you trying to chruch up the beat down your team received? That game wasn't even close. Lol because Longview was so small and weak your team got ran on like a treadmill. As for team speed there wasn't any.. Good point on Leander I forgot yall whipped them I didn't see the game maybe someone could fill me in on what exactly happend. If you don't believe Austin area teams are better make it to the 4a State Championship and prove it. I know Lake Travis will be there.

I wasn't trying to "church up" anything. I was trying to correct blatant lies you were telling such as the game being over before the first quarter when in reality, it was close through halftime. Unless, of course, a 13 point lead where the team down 13 is receiving the ball at half is "over". And the fact that "Austin Area teams are bigger, stronger, and faster than Longview" when in fact only one beat Longview. The other that tried got demolished (since a 21 point win is KILLING a team, I guess Longview killed Leander, huh?) And still, ONE team beating Longview doesn't mean ALL Austin area teams are better... Neutral observers have said Longview is better than Lake Travis. I hope we find out.

[PvilleSoCold]

I wasn't trying to "church up" anything. I was trying to correct blatant lies you were telling such as the game being over before the first quarter when in reality, it was close through halftime. Unless, of course, a 13 point lead where the team down 13 is receiving the ball at half is "over". And the fact that "Austin Area teams are bigger, stronger, and faster than Longview" when in fact only one beat Longview. The other that tried got demolished (since a 21 point win is KILLING a team, I guess Longview killed Leander, huh?) And still, ONE team beating Longview doesn't mean ALL Austin area teams are better... Neutral observers have said Longview is better than Lake Travis. I hope we find out.

Your trying to add color to a black and white picture 35-14 it wasn't close you were beat down physically, emotionally, and mentally. Yes I even said yall whipped Leander congrats on that. If it makes you happy I'll just say most Austin teams are better. Neutral obervers also said Longview was going to roll Pflugerville what happend? All smack a side Lake Travis vs Longview would be a game I'd like to see.

As for the Lufkin fan talking about a game in 2004 it's a shame what happend to your program. Congrats on that win, I was there and J-Lane was a beast. I'm sorry I have to tell you this but its 2008 almost election time, patriots lost the superbowl, Lobos are now 4a, and your team hasn't done anything in recent memory but choke.

[Aggies2009]

Your trying to add color to a black and white picture 35-14 it wasn't close you were beat down physically, emotionally, and mentally. Yes I even said yall whipped Leander congrats on that. If it makes you happy I'll just say most Austin teams are better. Neutral obervers also said Longview was going to roll Pflugerville what happend? All smack a side Lake Travis vs Longview would be a game I'd like to see.

As for the Lufkin fan talking about a game in 2004 it's a shame what happend to your program. Congrats on that win, I was there and J-Lane was a beast. I'm sorry I have to tell you this but its 2008 almost election time, patriots lost the superbowl, Lobos are now 4a, and your team hasn't done anything in recent memory but choke.

I'm not trying to add color to anything. You said the game was over in the first quarter. You were completely wrong. And how can you say "most" Austin teams are better simply because ONE team beat Longview? I don't remember many saying Longview would roll Pflugerville. In fact, many Carter and Leander fans said that they expected a Pflugerville win. I want to see a Longview-Lake Travis game as well.

[GameTyme]

Your trying to add color to a black and white picture 35-14 it wasn't close you were beat down physically, emotionally, and mentally. Yes I even said yall whipped Leander congrats on that. If it makes you happy I'll just say most Austin teams are better. Neutral obervers also said Longview was going to roll Pflugerville what happend? All smack a side Lake Travis vs Longview would be a game I'd like to see.

As for the Lufkin fan talking about a game in 2004 it's a shame what happend to your program. Congrats on that win, I was there and J-Lane was a beast. I'm sorry I have to tell you this but its 2008 almost election time, patriots lost the superbowl, Lobos are now 4a, and your team hasn't done anything in recent memory but choke.


If 20-3 in 2 years is choking ill drown. Is PVille even ranked ahead of us right now in 2008 so I dont get it. In 2004 we were better and now we are better.

Biger Stronger faster. Whats funny Antwann Cobb is Vondrell's Back up, and Cobb has been there longer. Mack Brown doesnt agree with you.

[PvilleSoCold]

I'm not trying to add color to anything. You said the game was over in the first quarter. You were completely wrong. And how can you say "most" Austin teams are better simply because ONE team beat Longview? I don't remember many saying Longview would roll Pflugerville. In fact, many Carter and Leander fans said that they expected a Pflugerville win. I want to see a Longview-Lake Travis game as well.

Whatever helps you sleep at night game was over after first Pflugerville TD followed by 4 more. I'm saying "most" simply because teams around here are that good. Since you don't remember I found this gem. http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=24419&highlight=Pflugerville&page=11 It's a great read for everyone.

[PvilleSoCold]

If 20-3 in 2 years is choking ill drown. Is PVille even ranked ahead of us right now in 2008 so I dont get it. In 2004 we were better and now we are better.

Biger Stronger faster. Whats funny Antwann Cobb is Vondrell's Back up, and Cobb has been there longer. Mack Brown doesnt agree with you.

LOL What's funny is not making it past the first round of the playoffs. Also Antwan Cobb was moved to fullback and started last year before he got hurt. Rankings don't mean shi* I mean Lufkin ranked #1 in the nation in 06 and lost to Round Rock... Lol your drowning and you don't even know it.

[GameTyme]

LOL What's funny is not making it past the first round of the playoffs. Also Antwan Cobb was moved to fullback and started last year before he got hurt. Rankings don't mean shi* I mean Lufkin ranked #1 in the nation in 06 and lost to Round Rock... Lol your drowning and you don't even know it.


Low man on state championships cant talk.


Never were we ranked #1 in the nation in 2006. It was #2:D. Quit living of RR your squad couldnt do it. I think Lane went well over 200 yards against the more bigger faster Pville squad that day. LMAO BIgger stronger faster. Get a champioship first before you start running your mouth.

[PvilleSoCold]

Low man on state championships cant talk.


Never were we ranked #1 in the nation in 2006. It was #2:D. Quit living of RR your squad couldnt do it. I think Lane went well over 200 yards against the more bigger faster Pville squad that day. LMAO BIgger stronger faster. Get a champioship first before you start running your mouth.

What you call state championships we call antiques. I'm not living off Round Rock just proving you were overrated. As I said earlier J-Lane was a beast.. When did I say Pflugerville was bigger, faster, stronger than Lufkin? Lufkin had the bigger stronger team in 04 then Pflugerville when they played. Last time I checked there is no Lufkin Lobo team. While we had a taste of the state championship last year, I hope our team is hungry and want the whole thing this year.

[Aggies2009]

Whatever helps you sleep at night game was over after first Pflugerville TD followed by 4 more. I'm saying "most" simply because teams around here are that good. Since you don't remember I found this gem. http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=24419&highlight=Pflugerville&page=11 It's a great read for everyone.

How was the game over after the first TD when Longview scored 14 points? The game wasn't "over" until the 4th quarter, not the first as you said. You're the one who said that idiotic comment, not me.

[PvilleSoCold]

Whatever makes you feel better boss you scored one TD. The other TD was in garbage time. I just like busting your chops because of last years playoff game all that smack your fans were talking. Good Luck to the Lobos in 4a maybe you can prove me wrong by beating Lake Travis.

[Hitman49]

From top to bottom East Texas has always played a good brand of HS Football...

I have a feeling that Longview is a better team this year then last year.

When you look at the Athletes that Pflugerville is putting on the field these days, makes you wonder why they don't win more...

[d-train]

From top to bottom East Texas has always played a good brand of HS Football...

I have a feeling that Longview is a better team this year then last year.

When you look at the Athletes that Pflugerville is putting on the field these days, makes you wonder why they don't win more...
No feeders! The HCs have no say so over middle school programs. That is a big advantage, especially on offense. That is why they run the ball so much.

[Hitman49]

No feeders! The HCs have no say so over middle school programs. That is a big advantage, especially on offense. That is why they run the ball so much.

That shocks me, if true. I can find out for sure.