Trinity vs Allen

[stinger]

Okay...Trinity came through a very tough 0 week. Allen has been doing well. This should be a tough game matching strengths. Any thoughts from both sides? I won't get on my homer wagon until I have some ideas regarding what's out there.:Music

[TrojanHorse03]

You mean vs. Cedar Hill:confused:?

[baylordad]

Btrain and I went to the Cedar Hill game last night. They run everything out of the spread. Their main asset is speed. Rider should have won the game. They had several turnovers in the first half that basically gave away the game.

[Robber89]

Btrain and I went to the Cedar Hill game last night. They run everything out of the spread. Their main asset is speed. Rider should have won the game. They had several turnovers in the first half that basically gave away the game.

It should have been 42 to 0 Cedar Hill at halftime. The gave Rider life. They wont be able to do that against Trinity.

[SLC]

Okay...Trinity came through a very tough 0 week. Allen has been doing well. This should be a tough game matching strengths. Any thoughts from both sides? I won't get on my homer wagon until I have some ideas regarding what's out there.:Music

And they were undefeated in week 1 also:D

[allendad]

Good crap . . . . . .

I don't even want to think about this one . . . yet!

Can we play Monterrey for the rest of the year????
:o:o:o

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Good crap . . . . . .

I don't even want to think about this one . . . yet!

Can we play Monterrey for the rest of the year????
:o:o:o
Nope! After Chill, YOU'RE NEXT!!!
We even have a t-shirt that says just that very thing - You're Next.

[da hawaiian]

Getting ahead of ourselves here don't you think? With the way our running game performed against JC I don't think anything is a given at this point

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Getting ahead of ourselves here don't you think? With the way our running game performed against JC I don't think anything is a given at this point
Naw - just having some good banter with allendad.
I never even mentioned anything about team performances and I rarely do that anyway. I like to let the boys do what they do or don't do on the football field and be there to support them no matter what.

[toonman]

Trinity wins both (Cedar Hill and Allen). No matter who Trinity plays next, I will forecast a win.

[tjw]

Getting ahead of ourselves here don't you think? With the way our running game performed against JC I don't think anything is a given at this point

Agree, Allen plays Rockwall first before hosting Trinity.

Lets get through week 2 before we talk about week 3.;)

[Tantal]

I think Cedar Hill is probably better than Allen; however, I could see Trinity coming out flat and losing to either one. In the end, I'm going with the homer pick with the Trojans in this one.

[slcdragonfan]

Pretty hard to pick against Trinity until they show some weakness. That may come against a high-scoring spread who gets ahead quick, but I'm picking Trinity until then.:notworthy

It certainly would be a surprise if it is Cedar Hill. As far as Allen? Hmmmm....do you think they have truly found a D this year?

[allendad]

Pretty hard to pick against Trinity until they show some weakness. That may come against a high-scoring spread who gets ahead quick, but I'm picking Trinity until then.:notworthy

It certainly would be a surprise if it is Cedar Hill. As far as Allen? Hmmmm....do you think they have truly found a D this year?

Found a what?


a D?

Wha, wha, what's that?

;)

I hope we find somethin' . . . . .

and quick!

[bigdaddydog]

Found a what?


a D?

Wha, wha, what's that?

;)

I hope we find somethin' . . . . .

and quick!

Yeah, I went to the Abiline game and I saw the "D" word.

Now when we do get it, I think I will know what it looks like! :D


~

[slcdragonfan]

Found a what?


a D?

Wha, wha, what's that?

;)

I hope we find somethin' . . . . .

and quick!

But seriously, folks...:)

What's the word on your Defense this year, haven't heard much on Allen so far.

[Vols4Ever]

No one should run trick plays against Trinity.

That is how you lose.

Trust me -- I have seen it.

:)

[HakaPoppa12]

Ask me again next week.:)

[ScottS]

This should be a good game. Most have Allen in the top 10 and Trinity #1.

[allendad]

But seriously, folks...:)

What's the word on your Defense this year, haven't heard much on Allen so far.

Fan,

I'm not the most objective person to answer this question.

I know it's an old cliche, but DEFENSE does when you a championship.

You HAVE to be able to stop your opponent. Not just stop 'em once in
a shoot out(like last year). A team must be able to "take it to" the other
team.

I've lived in Allen for 11 years.

We have NEVER had that type of defense here. With the present coaching
staff I see the D-Coordinator as unable to get the job done.

Our tackling is horrible. Last week the Mexican team broke down and had better fundamental tackling ability.

I LOVE to watch a strong defensive team. They bring a swagger and confidence to the field. When Allen's "D" takes the field, there is a collective massive intake of air as we cross our fingers and wait to see IF we can slow down the other team.

I like this years version better at this point than last years group . . . . .
but it's just not there.

I just don't see the HC ever making a change because he and the DC are
such good buddies, even though we really DO need a different DC.

I would think that there would be someone out there that is GOOD with a defense at a school that doesn't have the kids/facilities . . . . that would LOVE to come to Allen and bring in a Defensive philosophy that would raise Allen up to where it should be.

I know I sound very critical, but I am just trying to make observations of what we ALL see when we're in the stands.

[dragonpants]

Okay...Trinity came through a very tough 0 week. Allen has been doing well. This should be a tough game matching strengths. Any thoughts from both sides? I won't get on my homer wagon until I have some ideas regarding what's out there.:Music

Allen has been doing well?
Once again the most overrated program in the state has a false sense of security by beating a 4A school, albeit a prior 5A school but did not look good and then beat the team from Mexico.
Come on guys you just are not that good. You beat Plano last year but after that another collapse.
Your non district schedule other than Trinity is a joke. Two 4A teams and a team from Mexico.
I have a lot of respect that you scheduled Trinity in a non district game but you have no idea the beating you are in for.

[motoman]

"Our tackling is horrible. Last week the Mexican team broke down and had better fundamental tackling ability"

Not sure what game you were watching, but the borrego's had terrible fundamentals. Look at the first score we had on the punt return. BUT i do agree with everything else you posted. it's a shame we can't do more with our defensive efforts.

[allendad]

"Our tackling is horrible. Last week the Mexican team broke down and had better fundamental tackling ability"

Not sure what game you were watching, but the borrego's had terrible fundamentals. Look at the first score we had on the punt return. BUT i do agree with everything else you posted. it's a shame we can't do more with our defensive efforts.

I sat there watching our "D" throwing their arms out there trying to tackle last Thursday. Our kids are NOT taught how to play denfense.

I am speaking of Tec's effort on EACH play not a special team play where it's chaos on most HS teams.

Now, Jeremy Reeves on the other hand is a great corner who will come up
and do ya wrong. That is individual effort and not something that has been taught.

[slcdragonfan]

Thanks Allendad for the honest appraisal. I have wondered why a team of such potential as Allen had such difficulty with D. With the offense that you have put up in the past several years it was obvious that you had playmakers, players who could get the job done.

[motoman]

I sat there watching our "D" throwing their arms out there trying to tackle last Thursday. Our kids are NOT taught how to play denfense.

I am speaking of Tec's effort on EACH play not a special team play where it's chaos on most HS teams.

Now, Jeremy Reeves on the other hand is a great corner who will come up
and do ya wrong. That is individual effort and not something that has been taught.

jeremy is special player, no disagreeing. I thought the opposite though. IF MT was better fundamentally, they would have been a decent team. They just lacked fundamentals. You have sat through the "d" throwing up there arms for the last 5 years then. They can't tackle if you don't even practice it. It is very disappointing. Sad part is, there is probably more athlete's on defense this year than offense, they changed philosophies and still it's lackluster. Excited for next weeks game though!!

[Eagle1986]

Allen has been doing well?
Once again the most overrated program in the state has a false sense of security by beating a 4A school, albeit a prior 5A school but did not look good and then beat the team from Mexico.
Come on guys you just are not that good. You beat Plano last year but after that another collapse.
Your non district schedule other than Trinity is a joke. Two 4A teams and a team from Mexico.
I have a lot of respect that you scheduled Trinity in a non district game but you have no idea the beating you are in for.

Dragon, those two 4A schools were 5A last year, you act like they fall off the planet when they move down. Longview is still a great program and would give
any 5A school a run for their money. I don't make any excuses for the brakedowns in the past few years, but our ranking is based on the number of games we have won in a very tough district not the single losses. I guess we will see when Trinity comes to town and the game is played.

[allendad]

Dragon, those two 4A schools were 5A last year, you act like they fall off the planet when they move down. Longview is still a great program and would give
any 5A school a run for their money. I don't make any excuses for the brakedowns in the past few years, but our ranking is based on the number of games we have won in a very tough district not the single losses. I guess we will see when Trinity comes to town and the game is played.


How do you eagle guys like the way I'm
playing the "Psych-Mental" game on these
Trojan fans??????

Ummm-Hummm:rolleyes:

[allendad]

jeremy is special player, no disagreeing. I thought the opposite though. IF MT was better fundamentally, they would have been a decent team. They just lacked fundamentals. You have sat through the "d" throwing up there arms for the last 5 years then. They can't tackle if you don't even practice it. It is very disappointing. Sad part is, there is probably more athlete's on defense this year than offense, they changed philosophies and still it's lackluster. Excited for next weeks game though!!

Moto,

I think you're absolutely correct here.

I sat there Thursday watching the "O" and I thought
"Man, last year there were weapons ALL OVER the place
when we had the ball". Thursday, I was looking around thinking
that the ATF must have come along and confiscated all our weapons!

I love to watch B. Waddell run w/ the ball. I think he is soooooo much better than Williams. But, I see that they play him at the inside slot receiver. I guess that they are lacking at receiver this year.

I AM thrilled with the anunt of turnovers that the "D" is causing this year. It seems like we have had quite a few so far in just the two games.

Our kickoffs have been rather impressive. The kid's got a leg!

[motoman]

i'll tell you who i'm most impressed with is the soph lb, bud spears, no joke there. Yeah, i like him at the slot though, he is tough to bring down. Would like to see Matt at slot. if you remember the playoff's when he was a frosh, he sure did bring it. that would maximize what we have on offense a little better imo. our weapons are gone compared to last year, but Dakari has great hands...and EZ is EZ, dependable, they just aren't game changer's like the longhorn was...

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

How do you eagle guys like the way I'm
playing the "Psych-Mental" game on these
Trojan fans??????

Ummm-Hummm:rolleyes:
It ain't workin'!!! We're trying to psych you out.

I'm still thinking about those port-a-potties on the visitors' side.

[txshock]

Allen sucks. Time for a coaching change.

[tjw]

It ain't workin'!!! We're trying to psych you out.

I'm still thinking about those port-a-potties on the visitors' side.

Enjoy the port-a-potties on the visitors' side, maybe that will psych you out :D

[AllenSudz]

Thought after the routs a would bring this thread back up to date. I was very surprised that Trinity blew out Cedar Hill. I listened to the Allen game and i just hope that the O-Line looked a whole lot better then the previous two weeks. If not; it might get ugly. Allen had 4 or so turnovers and the D didnt allow any points. Hope that says something. I know there is going to be a lot of talk about this game and this will be one of the biggest games ever to be played @ Allen. Say what you want about our stadium but as a Alumni this atmosphere is what high school football is all about.

[eagleone]

Allen is now finished with "The Cupcake Tech's" on their schedule. Longview is a good team and program, but graduation has them down this year from previous years. The team from Mexico couldn't beat most of the JV teams in the area, and Rockwall now split with 2 schools had no offense. It's true that you have to play the schedule you're dealt, but Allen is thumping their chest a little too much and will get to experience a true 5a opponent this next week. Allen has great talent and can match-up with alot of top 5a opponents in most areas. The difference is their coaching! It showed last year in the playoffs and will continue to be the difference in big games Allen is playing.
As Jerry Jones once said "There are five hundred coaches that could win with that talent". But since that coach left, there has been only 1 championship.
The bottom line is that when talent is equal or close to equal the coach will make the difference. I say Trinity 42 Allen 17.

[SLC]

Allen is now finished with "The Cupcake Tech's" on their schedule. Longview is a good team and program, but graduation has them down this year from previous years. The team from Mexico couldn't beat most of the JV teams in the area, and Rockwall now split with 2 schools had no offense. It's true that you have to play the schedule you're dealt, but Allen is thumping their chest a little too much and will get to experience a true 5a opponent this next week. Allen has great talent and can match-up with alot of top 5a opponents in most areas. The difference is their coaching! It showed last year in the playoffs and will continue to be the difference in big games Allen is playing.
As Jerry Jones once said "There are five hundred coaches that could win with that talent". But since that coach left, there has been only 1 championship.
The bottom line is that when talent is equal or close to equal the coach will make the difference. I say Trinity 42 Allen 17.


I would say Trinity by a bunch... A whole bunch.... A whole big bunch:eek:

Nice lil win against orange jackets... But boy's look out there's a train pulling in the station and it sez Trinity Ballerz on it.
Get out your calculator this could get ugly:D


I see it something like

Trinity 42

Allen 10

[jbusch]

Allen is now finished with "The Cupcake Tech's" on their schedule. Longview is a good team and program, but graduation has them down this year from previous years. The team from Mexico couldn't beat most of the JV teams in the area, and Rockwall now split with 2 schools had no offense. It's true that you have to play the schedule you're dealt, but Allen is thumping their chest a little too much and will get to experience a true 5a opponent this next week. Allen has great talent and can match-up with alot of top 5a opponents in most areas. The difference is their coaching! It showed last year in the playoffs and will continue to be the difference in big games Allen is playing.
As Jerry Jones once said "There are five hundred coaches that could win with that talent". But since that coach left, there has been only 1 championship.
The bottom line is that when talent is equal or close to equal the coach will make the difference. I say Trinity 42 Allen 17. Did you figure in the Homer ref factor or not?:D

[SLC]

Did you figure in the Homer ref factor or not?:D


It's hard to play against them as well as the other team:)

[AllenFan09]

Allen is a good team but not GREAT. Our offense has been having quite some troubles this year from what I've seen in the first three games but our defense looks healthier than previous years. Still, even with a better defense and a decent offense, I don't think that this year's team will be able to beat a state power like Euless Trinity, even though Allen is ranked #3 on the website, that is really over-ranked, I think this game will really show where Allen is and look forward to it.
Trinity 42
Allen 17

[TrojanHorse03]

Now we can talk about this game between 2 top 3 teams.

[da hawaiian]

Nice Try Allen fans :) We know how good Allen is and won't be looking past an opponent we've all been looking forward too all summer long.

[bigdaddydog]

Trinity is 2-0 with two high quality wins against two great programs and Allen is 3-0 and according to some has played against marginal opponents. I Give Allen's opponents more credit and think that all three victories have provided priceless learning opportunities for the Eagles.

Trinity has a massive "O" line pounding at opposing defenses and rotates backs in for a potent running attack. Trinity has also had increasing success with their passing attack.

Allen's "D" is improved and has the personnel to rotate folks in and out to keep up fresh defensive pressure. The D Backs have had some great success with picks -o- plenty so far. The "O" has struggled at times to find itself. Several receivers have stepped up and coupled with "Eazy" to provide a potent air attack. The key to the Allen Offense will be to minimize mistakes and good Coach play calling.

Who wins? By how much? And Why?

Plaaaaccee your bets!!

Allen 34
Trinity 28


~

[AllenFan09]

Allen's "O" still has much work to do but I am glad that Allen has found itself some "D" this year, thought they have done a pretty good job so far. Despite the improvements on the "D" and keeping a solid "O" I cannot see my eagles winning this one.
ET by more than 14

[Tantal]

By the end of the CHill game, the backs were taking 15 yards of real estate at a time. Defense came out just OK in the beginning, then started layin' the wood, then the scrubs came in and the wheels came off, but by that point the game was over. With McGhee's arm coming along nicely, the days of stacking 9 in the box to stop the Trojan ground attack are over.

Trinity-34
Allen-14

[AllenEagle06]

Allen's offense definitely needs work. Less turnonvers and minimizing mistakes are our top priorities. The defense has been pretty good so far but will need to play their best game yet just to keep it close.

[powerofthehaka]

By the end of the CHill game, the backs were taking 15 yards of real estate at a time. Defense came out just OK in the beginning, then started layin' the wood, then the scrubs came in and the wheels came off, but by that point the game was over. With McGhee's arm coming along nicely, the days of stacking 9 in the box to stop the Trojan ground attack are over.

Trinity-34
Allen-14

Pick your poison!

[allendad]

I hope that Trinity will be kind and keep
the score below 65 points.

Allen stands no chance of EVEN scoring
against such a mighty team.

I just feel privileged to having the mighty
Trojans grace our little Hick town (not to mention stadium).

Truly what a great honor!

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

I can't wait to watch the #1 team in the whole United States.

[Trojan4653]

I hope that Trinity will be kind and keep
the score below 65 points.

Allen stands no chance of EVEN scoring
against such a mighty team.

I just feel privileged to having the mighty
Trojans grace our little Hick town (not to mention stadium).

Truly what a great honor!

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

I can't wait to watch the #1 team in the whole United States.

You are tooooo kind Dad:D

[toonman]

I think Trinity are showing themselves to be the #1 team in 5A; with their demolition of Cedar Hill. Another stern test this coming Friday, but I see Trinity prevailing against Allen, even though the game is being played in Allen.

[Leather Helmet Baller]

Enjoy the port-a-potties on the visitors' side, maybe that will psych you out :D

Trinity brings it own .........with an official wiping staff.
:D

[da wiz]

Enjoy the port-a-potties on the visitors' side, maybe that will psych you out :D

we went to jesuit, that had a glorified porta-potty.............

[slcdragonfan]

Texas High School Football's worst nightmare has been realized; Trinity has not only discovered the forward pass but is very good at it. In light of that, I think Trinity scores 48 points or better (depends upon how well the second team does as to how high it goes), and Allen gets 21 or less, again depending on how tough the Trinity second team is against them. Allen loses their #3 position and falls out of the top 10.

Harsh? yes. But Trinity appears to be just that good. Not that Allen is that bad. CHILL game should send a chill down every opponents spine.
All hail the might Trinity.:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[stinger]

Texas High School Football's worst nightmare has been realized; Trinity has not only discovered the forward pass but is very good at it. In light of that, I think Trinity scores 48 points or better (depends upon how well the second team does as to how high it goes), and Allen gets 21 or less, again depending on how tough the Trinity second team is against them. Allen loses their #3 position and falls out of the top 10.

Harsh? yes. But Trinity appears to be just that good. Not that Allen is that bad. CHILL game should send a chill down every opponents spine.
All hail the might Trinity.:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Thanks for the kudos. I don't know if you were at the game, but they dismantled CHill. I am not being facetious when I say that. Trinity actually slammed the door shut on a very good team. Like any other team, mistakes bit Trinity a little. But they quickly answered all of that. NOBODY expected them to come out passing like they did. And....McGhee was very accurate and calm. The receivers did their job to counter the "amazing";) speed of CHill.
Now does everybody begin to get the idea that Trinity "might" have the kind of speed that is scary? Good grief, they stayed with anything they faced last night.

[slcdragonfan]

Thanks for the kudos. I don't know if you were at the game, but they dismantled CHill. I am not being facetious when I say that. Trinity actually slammed the door shut on a very good team. Like any other team, mistakes bit Trinity a little. But they quickly answered all of that. NOBODY expected them to come out passing like they did. And....McGhee was very accurate and calm. The receivers did their job to counter the "amazing";) speed of CHill.
Now does everybody begin to get the idea that Trinity "might" have the kind of speed that is scary? Good grief, they stayed with anything they faced last night.

Didn't go to the game, was going to a 3A game and then discovered it was 3 hours away, too late to recover and go elsewhere. However, I watched highlights on the High School review and read about it. Numerous backs with yards, numerous folks catching the ball, the passes I saw were crisp and accurate, much better than what I saw in previous highlights. Honestly, I though McGhee (sp?) was getting overrated in the passing dept until I saw some of them last night. With that aspect of the game in place, it looks like it is up to Trinity how far they go.
I too get tired of hearing about the speed of Chill. I know they are a good team, but that is all that was talked about last year before we played them in the playoffs, and the results were similar. Looking forward to Plano v Trinity playoff game, looks to be another classic 'must see' game. Of course, one game at a time....

[baylordad]

I hope that Trinity will be kind and keep
the score below 65 points.

Allen stands no chance of EVEN scoring
against such a mighty team.

I just feel privileged to having the mighty
Trojans grace our little Hick town (not to mention stadium).

Truly what a great honor!

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

I can't wait to watch the #1 team in the whole United States.

Thanks, but that is way to much sugar dad. It will be a great game!

[tjw]

Looking forward to a good game myself.:)

[c-lisle]

I hope that Trinity will be kind and keep
the score below 65 points.

Allen stands no chance of EVEN scoring
against such a mighty team.

I just feel privileged to having the mighty
Trojans grace our little Hick town (not to mention stadium).

Truly what a great honor!

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

I can't wait to watch the #1 team in the whole United States.


I really hope you are being sarcastic......

[tjw]

we went to jesuit, that had a glorified porta-potty.............

Don't think ours are "glorified porta-potty"...just plain

[tjw]

I really hope you are being sarcastic......

From every thread here if Trinity doesn't win 105-10 then something must be wrong with them. :laugh

Can't see that happening.

Looking for a good game, myself.:)

[wesaxman34]

My prediction:

Trinity - 41
Allen - 23

[AllenFan09]

I really hope you are being sarcastic......

He probably is but from my opinion I really don't see how many people think that this is going to be a good game. Allen is going to get squished by Trinity, and if it doesn't I'll be really surprised. Allen just doesn't have the offensive power it has had the last years which will keep the scoring down and though the defense has improved, Allen is facing a major offensive power here. For those Allen dreamers, get your head out of the clouds.

Im thinking
Trinity 42
Allen 17

[SLC]

Trinity is 2-0 with two high quality wins against two great programs and Allen is 3-0 and according to some has played against marginal opponents. I Give Allen's opponents more credit and think that all three victories have provided priceless learning opportunities for the Eagles.

Trinity has a massive "O" line pounding at opposing defenses and rotates backs in for a potent running attack. Trinity has also had increasing success with their passing attack.

Allen's "D" is improved and has the personnel to rotate folks in and out to keep up fresh defensive pressure. The D Backs have had some great success with picks -o- plenty so far. The "O" has struggled at times to find itself. Several receivers have stepped up and coupled with "Eazy" to provide a potent air attack. The key to the Allen Offense will be to minimize mistakes and good Coach play calling.

Who wins? By how much? And Why?

Plaaaaccee your bets!!

Allen 34
Trinity 28


~


BigDaddy.. Thats a nice Collin County Homer pick you made there.

I have ran this through my head for days and thought of every senario I can.. And not one has Allen coming out on top.

Trinity on offense vs Allen deffense... Big advantage Trinity. Allen just hasn't shown the ability to stop a team that can punch them in the mouth from the get go.

Allen on offense vs Trinity deffense... Again advantage Trinity.. Though not as big, Cause Allen will spread Trinity out and make them cover more of the field than JC and Chill did. But the big Trinity D line will wear on those Allen O lineman and get pressure.

I have already picked a BIG win for Trinity in another thread and I will stick with that prediction. This one is heartbreak for an Allen team who has seen plenty of that over the past few years.


Trinity 42

Allen 10

[tjw]

I've got a thought one this from another post from a Trinty fan.

Trinity never has gone undefeated in a year like some other state champs. Seems they always loose one game a year and seems to be their third game. This being the case why don't ya'll just let us win and then go on.:D:D

[TRINITY EXPRESS]

No we have a shirt at Trinity that says YOUR NEXT and you are.

[btrain38]

I Think The Score Is
Trinity 0
Allen 0
Let't Play The Game.

[Leather Helmet Baller]

Tray seemed a non-factor. Anybody have a what-what? Is he getting beat out by Tevin?

[SLC]

I Think The Score Is
Trinity 0
Allen 0
Let't Play The Game.

Very astute assesment there... hmm..

[stinger]

Tray seemed a non-factor. Anybody have a what-what? Is he getting beat out by Tevin?

A healthy Trey for the games that count is probably what's happening. I also noticed that thet aren't throwing to Trey, and he is a fantastic receiver. That will keep teams honest later when it counts. Giving the new backs some playing time now will pay big dividends later. I am already seeing Tevin Williams as a super soph that will be something to watch in the future. Seeing that Trey already has a ride at Nebraska, there is no need to overuse him and showcase is talents. This allows Lineweaver to utilize others to prepare. What team wants to face a tem with as many backs and receivers that did so well last night. It will be a nightmare for the Allen coaches to figure out where they have to focus their strengths.:D

[SLC]

A healthy Trey for the games that count is probably what's happening. I also noticed that thet aren't throwing to Trey, and he is a fantastic receiver. That will keep teams honest later when it counts. Giving the new backs some playing time now will pay big dividends later. I am already seeing Tevin Williams as a super soph that will be something to watch in the future. Seeing that Trey already has a ride at Nebraska, there is no need to overuse him and showcase is talents. This allows Lineweaver to utilize others to prepare. What team wants to face a tem with as many backs and receivers that did so well last night. It will be a nightmare for the Allen coaches to figure out where they have to focus their strengths.:D


I would doubt "having a ride" wont ever play into Coach Lineweaver's mind when trying to win games.... And state titles. He will play whoever.. whenever

[TrojanHorse03]

From every thread here if Trinity doesn't win 105-10 then something must be wrong with them. :laugh

Can't see that happening.

Looking for a good game, myself.:)

That may be what's said on the interweb but Coach Lineweaver and the team is only concerned with W's however they come.

[bigdaddydog]

BigDaddy.. Thats a nice Collin County Homer pick you made there.

I have ran this through my head for days and thought of every senario I can.. And not one has Allen coming out on top.

Trinity on offense vs Allen deffense... Big advantage Trinity. Allen just hasn't shown the ability to stop a team that can punch them in the mouth from the get go.

Allen on offense vs Trinity deffense... Again advantage Trinity.. Though not as big, Cause Allen will spread Trinity out and make them cover more of the field than JC and Chill did. But the big Trinity D line will wear on those Allen O lineman and get pressure.

I have already picked a BIG win for Trinity in another thread and I will stick with that prediction. This one is heartbreak for an Allen team who has seen plenty of that over the past few years.


Trinity 42

Allen 10


Hmmm, Imagine. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :Music

So here it is, believe it or not there is some logic behind my score projection and my projection of an Allen win. I'll give you my opinion on the relative confidence in my predicted outcome in a second.

I think Trinity's Offense is improved over last Year. I went to the Plano vs Trinity Playoff Game and I also went to the Trinity vs John Curtis game this year. I don't think anyone would contest this opinion.

The Allen Defense is improved over last year. I am taking into account the common opponent (Plano). With a majority of the Allen "D" returning, they held Plano to 26 points and Trinity held them to 27 points.

Trinity Defense is Likely better than it was last year. I will let some of the Trinity folks fill in the blank here. I am giving you all the benefit of the doubt.

The Allen Offense is different this year. I won't say better or worse yet, but definitely different. Without Buckner to play "you just throw it toward me and I'll catch it" The Allen offense is having to mix things up more and get more people involved. Like last year, the offense has been prone to turnovers and mistakes. This is the biggest key area that must be vastly improved if my prediction is to come true.

I just love the explaination for Browns interception throw last night. "We've got a very big offensive line and the outside backer just kind of lurked out there, and he made a great read and I never saw him," Brown said. The good news you have a big offensive line, the bad news your quarterback is only 6' 1" .

We have some big Offensive Linemen

Coaching - I am not going to go there. Because I'm not, that's why.

Can Allen hold Trinity to 28 points? I think they can.

Can Allen score at least 34 points? I think they can.

Is Trinity going to have some big plays with some long runs. I think they will.

Is this game going to give Allen Coaches nightmares? I doubt it. Winning District games and making the playoffs are what counts. We've done the undefeated thing during the regular season and see what it got us!! :cool:

Can Allen Win? I think they can.
Bigdaddy's Confidence Factor 42.67%

Can Trinity win? Are you nuts? Of Course they can win.
Bigdaddy's Confidence Factor 57.32%

As I have said before. I just hope both teams can come out of this Non-District contest healthy.

Cheers,


~

[TrojanHorse03]

Perhaps we can tap the brakes a little. Trinity did pass a good test. However the truth of the matter is it's too early to know how good Cedar Hill even is. Also Allen presents very different challenges for Trinity than Cedar Hill. This will be a particularly new and revealing test this week for our secondary and defensive line. When I look at Allen so far it is evident they have made tireless effort since last year to fix the problems that have held them back on defense in the past and will have no part in participating in a Trinity coronation now. Lets not forget what we should know better than anybody it's not a good idea to coronate anybody in week 2.

[TrojanHorse03]

The Allen Defense is improved over last year. I am taking into account the common opponent (Plano). With a majority of the Allen "D" returning, they held Plano to 26 points and Trinity held them to 27 points.

Cheers,


~

21 points before a bogus fumble call, but whatever. We will get to see who has the better defense soon enough....

[SLC]

Hmmm, Imagine. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :Music

So here it is, believe it or not there is some logic behind my score projection and my projection of an Allen win. I'll give you my opinion on the relative confidence in my predicted outcome in a second.

I think Trinity's Offense is improved over last Year. I went to the Plano vs Trinity Playoff Game and I also went to the Trinity vs John Curtis game this year. I don't think anyone would contest this opinion.

The Allen Defense is improved over last year. I am taking into account the common opponent (Plano). With a majority of the Allen "D" returning, they held Plano to 26 points and Trinity held them to 27 points.

Trinity Defense is Likely better than it was last year. I will let some of the Trinity folks fill in the blank here. I am giving you all the benefit of the doubt.

The Allen Offense is different this year. I won't say better or worse yet, but definitely different. Without Buckner to play "you just throw it toward me and I'll catch it" The Allen offense is having to mix things up more and get more people involved. Like last year, the offense has been prone to turnovers and mistakes. This is the biggest key area that must be vastly improved if my prediction is to come true.

I just love the explaination for Browns interception throw last night. "We've got a very big offensive line and the outside backer just kind of lurked out there, and he made a great read and I never saw him," Brown said. The good news you have a big offensive line, the bad news your quarterback is only 6' 1" .

We have some big Offensive Linemen

Coaching - I am not going to go there. Because I'm not, that's why.

Can Allen hold Trinity to 28 points? I think they can.

Can Allen score at least 34 points? I think they can.

Is Trinity going to have some big plays with some long runs. I think they will.

Is this game going to give Allen Coaches nightmares? I doubt it. Winning District games and making the playoffs are what counts. We've done the undefeated thing during the regular season and see what it got us!! :cool:

Can Allen Win? I think they can.
Bigdaddy's Confidence Factor 42.67%

Can Trinity win? Are you nuts? Of Course they can win.
Bigdaddy's Confidence Factor 57.32%

As I have said before. I just hope both teams can come out of this Non-District contest healthy.

Cheers,


~

Allen can do both at most anytime..... Just not against Trinity.

I would be shocked if Allen put 34 on this Trinity team.:)

[Tantal]

I would be shocked if Allen put 34 on this Trinity team.:)Won't happen. Bank on it. If Meger and Burkhead couldn't do it last year in triple overtime, I don't see anybody else doing it in regulation. Guess we'll find out Friday.

[bigdaddydog]

Won't happen. Bank on it. If Meger and Burkhead couldn't do it last year in triple overtime, I don't see anybody else doing it in regulation. Guess we'll find out Friday.


Yes, we shall see.


Just remember, you can't spell Coronation without Corona!! :D :cool:

Cheers,


~

[SLC]

Yes, we shall see.


Just remember, you can't spell Coronation without Corona!! :D :cool:

Cheers,


~


Just no lime....:D

[jbusch]

Yes, we shall see.


Just remember, you can't spell Coronation without Corona!! :D :cool:

Cheers,


~

Hey what's going on with the QB situation in Lovejoy - the coaches are idiots

[Trojan4653]

Perhaps we can tap the brakes a little. Trinity did pass a good test. However the truth of the matter is it's too early to know how good Cedar Hill even is. Also Allen presents very different challenges for Trinity than Cedar Hill. This will be a particularly new and revealing test this week for our secondary and defensive line. When I look at Allen so far it is evident they have made tireless effort since last year to fix the problems that have held them back on defense in the past and will have no part in participating in a Trinity coronation now. Lets not forget what we should know better than anybody it's not a good idea to coronate anybody in week 2.

Well put, wouldnt it be something to meet them again in the playoffs with a QB that has a few wins under his belt:eek:

[Eagle1986]

I'm just hyped up about seeing the Haka, since I haven't had the opportunity in person. :notworthy Lets just hope both teams come out healthy.:eek:

Allen 21
Trinity 14

[Maroondog]

No disrespect to Allen, however, as I said last week, Trinity is still the champs until PROVEN otherwise.

[SLC]

I'm just hyped up about seeing the Haka, since I haven't had the opportunity in person. :notworthy Lets just hope both teams come out healthy.:eek:

Allen 21
Trinity 14



Totally cool.. I promise you that.. They are something to see.. I enjoyed it alot, It upsets some opposing fans... But I dont get that.. Its really cool.:notworthy

[jbusch]

Well put, wouldnt it be something to meet them again in the playoffs with a QB that has a few wins under his belt:eek:

are you talking about CH? If so it would be something to see them again in the playoffs, they are locked in D2, ET is locked in D1 according to the UIL attendance figures.

Hopefully CH goes undefeated the rest of the season and wins the D2 title while ET does the same and wins D1 and then we can have a peaceful off seaon on the boards not arguing about which 5A champion is the better team.;)

[bigdaddydog]

No disrespect to Allen, however, as I said last week, Trinity is still the champs until PROVEN otherwise.

Schaa! That goes without saying... :)


~

[AllenFan09]

Wow so much hope from Allen.... I can see some Allen fans that aren't seeing right are going to come out pretty disappointed. I don't pretend to know everything but seriously have y'all come to all three games this season? 3 wins against two 4a teams and a Mexican team mean nothing. The offense is shaky, defense is decent at best. I fail to see what we're seeing here. I mean we barely scored above 20 points against Rockwall and Longview.
I haven't missed an Allen game in five years straight, although I'm sure some of y'all have not missed a game for much more than that, and from what I've seen from when major powers that go against Allen is not good (SLC vs Allen comes to mind two years ago). And with the not so great offense we have this year, I can see Allen coming out with a huge loss. We'll be here next saturday and see who's right ;)

[Bandnerd1983]

Wow so much hope from Allen.... I can see some Allen fans that aren't seeing right are going to come out pretty disappointed. I don't pretend to know everything but seriously have y'all come to all three games this season? 3 wins against two 4a teams and a Mexican team mean nothing. The offense is shaky, defense is decent at best. I fail to see what we're seeing here. I mean we barely scored above 20 points against Rockwall and Longview.
I haven't missed an Allen game in five years straight, although I'm sure some of y'all have not missed a game for much more than that, and from what I've seen from when major powers that go against Allen is not good (SLC vs Allen comes to mind two years ago). And with the not so great offense we have this year, I can see Allen coming out with a huge loss. We'll be here next saturday and see who's right ;)

Wow!!! Let's show a little support for your team.:rolleyes:

[AllenFan09]

Wow!!! Let's show a little support for your team.:rolleyes:

Oh don't get me wrong I'll be out there this friday night cheering on the Eagles and every single game from there after if I'm able to. I just don't think we'll be able to get through state's #1. I mean if last year you were richardson and you're next game was against Allen, would you have any hopes of winning?

[Bandnerd1983]

Oh don't get me wrong I'll be out there this friday night cheering on the Eagles and every single game from there after if I'm able to. I just don't think we'll be able to get through state's #1. I mean if last year you were richardson and you're next game was against Allen, would you have any hopes of winning?

Allen is not Richardson, and if you remember correctly everyone said we had no chance of winning against Plano....look at the outcome of that game, now I'm not saying we will win but.......we won't know until the game is played!!!

[bigdaddydog]

Wow so much hope from Allen.... I can see some Allen fans that aren't seeing right are going to come out pretty disappointed. I don't pretend to know everything but seriously have y'all come to all three games this season? 3 wins against two 4a teams and a Mexican team mean nothing. The offense is shaky, defense is decent at best. I fail to see what we're seeing here. I mean we barely scored above 20 points against Rockwall and Longview.
I haven't missed an Allen game in five years straight, although I'm sure some of y'all have not missed a game for much more than that, and from what I've seen from when major powers that go against Allen is not good (SLC vs Allen comes to mind two years ago). And with the not so great offense we have this year, I can see Allen coming out with a huge loss. We'll be here next saturday and see who's right ;)

Ah my fellow Allen fan, I gotta agree with the nerd. Hope is a very poor planning tool. I see it more as Allen's ability, potential, and preparation. I have seen what is possible and have provided my opinions on what is possible and confidence level.

That 1st team defense that is "decent at best" has allowed only 14 points in three games and up ~2-4 turnovers per game. I'd say that they are playing much better than decent! This defense is going to keep getting better and regardless of a win or a loss to Trinity they will learn a tremendous amount that will help them throughout the rest of the season.

I've been to all three games this year and for you to say those 3 wins mean nothing is what is dissapointing. You have the right to your opinion, but those games mean that the offense has gotten a chance to adjust to not having the luxury of Buckner to throw to. They have spread the ball out by throwing to to the RB (Williams) and 4 wide outs (Wright, Waddell, Pecikonis and Nwachukwu). I agree that the offense has been shaky, but that has been the case most of last year too. I want Brown to have Nathan D. type of numbers for interceptions. They also have to come out on top with the turnover war. Any defense is going to have a hard time if the "O" keeps giving the ball back.

This is pre-district and so it is a time to learn and try new things. I mean crips, folks were ready to bury Plano's season because Plano almost lost to Desoto. Plano will be fine and Allen will be fine. I like being the underdog.

Plan for the best and prepare for the worst. I won't be dissapointed if Allen losses to the current #1 team in the whole entire nation. I have seen them play and they are a great team.


~

[TrojanHorse03]

Plan for the best and prepare for the worst.~

All that matters right now is who puts it together on 9/19/08, not what has happened previously.

[Trojanman96]

I've got a thought one this from another post from a Trinty fan.

Trinity never has gone undefeated in a year like some other state champs. Seems they always loose one game a year and seems to be their third game. This being the case why don't ya'll just let us win and then go on.:D:D

one year it was the 9th game, the other it was the 2nd.

[Trojanman96]

Tray seemed a non-factor. Anybody have a what-what? Is he getting beat out by Tevin?

Hurt shoulder

[TrojanMom88]

It's hard to play against them as well as the other team:)

The home ref factor just makes us that much better and that much more angry. Have you ever seen an angry TROJAN????

[bigdaddydog]

All that matters right now is who puts it together on 9/19/08, not what has happened previously.

I agree with you. We are all the sum of our experiences. It is important to remember the past, but not let it control you.

I prefer to not act like Eyore, especially when rooting for my team.

Cheers,


~

[Trojanman96]

Hmmm, Imagine. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :Music

So here it is, believe it or not there is some logic behind my score projection and my projection of an Allen win. I'll give you my opinion on the relative confidence in my predicted outcome in a second.

I think Trinity's Offense is improved over last Year. I went to the Plano vs Trinity Playoff Game and I also went to the Trinity vs John Curtis game this year. I don't think anyone would contest this opinion.

The Allen Defense is improved over last year. I am taking into account the common opponent (Plano). With a majority of the Allen "D" returning, they held Plano to 26 points and Trinity held them to 27 points.

Trinity Defense is Likely better than it was last year. I will let some of the Trinity folks fill in the blank here. I am giving you all the benefit of the doubt.

The Allen Offense is different this year. I won't say better or worse yet, but definitely different. Without Buckner to play "you just throw it toward me and I'll catch it" The Allen offense is having to mix things up more and get more people involved. Like last year, the offense has been prone to turnovers and mistakes. This is the biggest key area that must be vastly improved if my prediction is to come true.

I just love the explaination for Browns interception throw last night. "We've got a very big offensive line and the outside backer just kind of lurked out there, and he made a great read and I never saw him," Brown said. The good news you have a big offensive line, the bad news your quarterback is only 6' 1" .

We have some big Offensive Linemen

Coaching - I am not going to go there. Because I'm not, that's why.

Can Allen hold Trinity to 28 points? I think they can.

Can Allen score at least 34 points? I think they can.

Is Trinity going to have some big plays with some long runs. I think they will.

Is this game going to give Allen Coaches nightmares? I doubt it. Winning District games and making the playoffs are what counts. We've done the undefeated thing during the regular season and see what it got us!! :cool:

Can Allen Win? I think they can.
Bigdaddy's Confidence Factor 42.67%

Can Trinity win? Are you nuts? Of Course they can win.
Bigdaddy's Confidence Factor 57.32%

As I have said before. I just hope both teams can come out of this Non-District contest healthy.

Cheers,


~

Yes anything can happen. But to use last year is a joke. Allen played them early, and Trinity palyed them in the FINAL 4. Plus Plano had on 21 points until the so called" fumble allowed them to kick a fg with seconds to go;and had 27 points thru double OT. So that debunks everything that you said about last year. One thing is true. It is too early to make outlandish predictions. And if you don't know the difference between week 4 and the playoffs, then something is wrong.

[Trojanman96]

I'm just hyped up about seeing the Haka, since I haven't had the opportunity in person. :notworthy Lets just hope both teams come out healthy.:eek:

Allen 21
Trinity 14

?????????????

[Trojanman96]

The home ref factor just makes us that much better and that much more angry. Have you ever seen an angry TROJAN????

LOL:D:laugh:laugh:laugh

[SLC]

The home ref factor just makes us that much better and that much more angry. Have you ever seen an angry TROJAN????


Now mom that's a silly question for an SLC fan:D;):)

[TrojanMom88]

Now mom that's a silly question for an SLC fan:D;):)

I know SLC has seen an angry TROJAN or should I say about 85 of them... I still vote that game as best football game ever.... To bad it was early in the playoffs.... Thanks for the support this year!!!

[AllenFan09]

Ah my fellow Allen fan, I gotta agree with the nerd. Hope is a very poor planning tool. I see it more as Allen's ability, potential, and preparation. I have seen what is possible and have provided my opinions on what is possible and confidence level.

That 1st team defense that is "decent at best" has allowed only 14 points in three games and up ~2-4 turnovers per game. I'd say that they are playing much better than decent! This defense is going to keep getting better and regardless of a win or a loss to Trinity they will learn a tremendous amount that will help them throughout the rest of the season.

I've been to all three games this year and for you to say those 3 wins mean nothing is what is dissapointing. You have the right to your opinion, but those games mean that the offense has gotten a chance to adjust to not having the luxury of Buckner to throw to. They have spread the ball out by throwing to to the RB (Williams) and 4 wide outs (Wright, Waddell, Pecikonis and Nwachukwu). I agree that the offense has been shaky, but that has been the case most of last year too. I want Brown to have Nathan D. type of numbers for interceptions. They also have to come out on top with the turnover war. Any defense is going to have a hard time if the "O" keeps giving the ball back.

This is pre-district and so it is a time to learn and try new things. I mean crips, folks were ready to bury Plano's season because Plano almost lost to Desoto. Plano will be fine and Allen will be fine. I like being the underdog.

Plan for the best and prepare for the worst. I won't be dissapointed if Allen losses to the current #1 team in the whole entire nation. I have seen them play and they are a great team.


~

Like I said don't get me wrong I'm still a huge Allen fan as I've been for these 5 years(I know I don't look like one from what I've said towards this game, but it's just this particular game, this particular year w/o Nathan D. or Dan Buckner). I take it back that Allen's first three wins didn't mean anything but they weren't against teams that are as tough as Trinity. Although Allen's D let little points go through so far, the offenses we have gone against made a lot of mistakes, but I know that you gotta give credit to the D for recovering the fumbles and making the interceptions. I also did like the way the D performed on the red zone, lots of turnovers there.

I do look forward to a great season as the O and D both improve and will definitely look forward to the Plano game this year (which by the way I did think we were going to win last year). I just don't think we're fully prepared yet for this game but I would be really excited to see Allen win this one, but like you I wouldn't be disappointed either if we lost, Trinity is a very good team.

GO EAGLES!! :)

[SLC]

I know SLC has seen an angry TROJAN or should I say about 85 of them... I still vote that game as best football game ever.... To bad it was early in the playoffs.... Thanks for the support this year!!!


Always:notworthy


I learned alot from that game.... One of which has never left my mind... And that is that 2 teams could battle their hearts out, leave it all on the field and walk away smiling and talking to each other, I think we have always admired each others programs, even though so different in style, having one common goal.. Mostly to represent your school and city with dignity and pride.


And the Trojans most definately do both.:notworthy;)

[da hawaiian]

are you talking about CH? If so it would be something to see them again in the playoffs, they are locked in D2, ET is locked in D1 according to the UIL attendance figures.

Hopefully CH goes undefeated the rest of the season and wins the D2 title while ET does the same and wins D1 and then we can have a peaceful off seaon on the boards not arguing about which 5A champion is the better team.;)

I think a certain team in Green might have something to say about that

[SLC]

are you talking about CH? If so it would be something to see them again in the playoffs, they are locked in D2, ET is locked in D1 according to the UIL attendance figures.

Hopefully CH goes undefeated the rest of the season and wins the D2 title while ET does the same and wins D1 and then we can have a peaceful off seaon on the boards not arguing about which 5A champion is the better team.;)


If that happened... there would be no arguement at all. Trinity beat you in route to their title.;)

[SLC]

I think a certain team in Green might have something to say about that


Oh hawaiian... We still have alot of work to do..


But it would be nice;)

[bigdaddydog]

Yes anything can happen. But to use last year is a joke. Allen played them early, and Trinity palyed them in the FINAL 4. Plus Plano had on 21 points until the so called" fumble allowed them to kick a fg with seconds to go;and had 27 points thru double OT. So that debunks everything that you said about last year. One thing is true. It is too early to make outlandish predictions. And if you don't know the difference between week 4 and the playoffs, then something is wrong.

Ok, so Allen played Plano in the 4th game of the season and Burkhead, Meger, Lott, Et Al. were fresh and had been hitting their stride since the beginning of the season. Trinity played Plano late in the playoffs when They were banged up and bruised.

Allen's defense held Plano to fewer points than all but 1 (Plano West) of their other 14 opponents. Allen's offense scored more ponts than all but 1 (Wylie) of Plano's 14 other opponents.

I'm afraid your point is moot. The common opponent is a factor to be considered seriously.

Cheers,


~

[toughcasey]

in regards to cedar hill vs trinity, lets not forget what mojo did to trinity last year early, and we all know what happened in the playoffs.

that being said, this trinity D has got to be one of the best i have seen in a while. the linebacking crew made c-hill backs look slow at times and were just smothering them when they moved laterally, which is scary.

I say trinity D pressures the Allen QB into making too many mistakes and trinity hangs at least 30 on them.

T 34
A 10

[chhspantherfan]

No we have a shirt at Trinity that says YOUR NEXT and you are.

Hope the English department doesn't see it......:D

[stinger]

Wow so much hope from Allen.... I can see some Allen fans that aren't seeing right are going to come out pretty disappointed. I don't pretend to know everything but seriously have y'all come to all three games this season? 3 wins against two 4a teams and a Mexican team mean nothing. The offense is shaky, defense is decent at best. I fail to see what we're seeing here. I mean we barely scored above 20 points against Rockwall and Longview.
I haven't missed an Allen game in five years straight, although I'm sure some of y'all have not missed a game for much more than that, and from what I've seen from when major powers that go against Allen is not good (SLC vs Allen comes to mind two years ago). And with the not so great offense we have this year, I can see Allen coming out with a huge loss. We'll be here next saturday and see who's right ;)



Great reverse psychology...but it won't work. Trinity will work hard to prepare this week for a tough Allen team.;):notworthy

[jbusch]

I think a certain team in Green might have something to say about that That's why I said hopefully
I guy can dream can't he??;):D

[jbusch]

Hope the English department doesn't see it......:D
You can relax - I just went and checked my shirt it's spelled "You're Next" :notworthy:D

[stinger]

Ok, so Allen played Plano in the 4th game of the season and Burkhead, Meger, Lott, Et Al. were fresh and had been hitting their stride since the beginning of the season. Trinity played Plano late in the playoffs when They were banged up and bruised.

Allen's defense held Plano to fewer points than all but 1 (Plano West) of their other 14 opponents. Allen's offense scored more ponts than all but 1 (Wylie) of Plano's 14 other opponents.

I'm afraid your point is moot. The common opponent is a factor to be considered seriously.

Cheers,


~



Said by the most defesive poster on this site. Let's wait till Friday and watch the statements from the players. This is whwere you get to see a Trinity team hitting their stride as you said about Plano. My reply is " You asked for it, so here it is." Trinity will improve, just as Allen will. Trinity will make mistakes, just as Allen will. Which team will overcome those mistakes? Trinity has nixed mistakes well so far this season. Who will take advantage of the mistakes? I do not know the stat regarding scoring off of other teams' mistakes.
I will say this though. If Trinity improves as much from last week as they did from the John Curtis game, Allen is in for a tremendously rough and tough game. This is not bragging. We in the stands were in awe when we saw how much they had improved. I personally feel that they played as well as they played for the Plano game last year. Watching the multitude ob backs and receivers being used with success was a real thrill. If this is what we have to look forward to, watch out everybody. I kid you not, Tevin Williams is a SUPER SOPH that will be a Nance repeat with afew more pounds. CHill never even got close to getting to him when he reached his stride at the corner. He is simply amazing!! In addition, the other backup offensive players definitely were having fun with their success.
So, all in all, Trinity has all of the cards in this matchup. If they play themm, or need them, then Allen is blessed to have the shorter ride home after the game.;):D

[chhspantherfan]

You can relax - I just went and checked my shirt it's spelled "You're Next" :notworthy:D

figured it did, but it might be the only dig i get this year on Trinity. ;)

[bigdaddydog]

Said by the most defesive poster on this site. Let's wait till Friday and watch the statements from the players. This is whwere you get to see a Trinity team hitting their stride as you said about Plano. My reply is " You asked for it, so here it is." Trinity will improve, just as Allen will. Trinity will make mistakes, just as Allen will. Which team will overcome those mistakes? Trinity has nixed mistakes well so far this season. Who will take advantage of the mistakes? I do not know the stat regarding scoring off of other teams' mistakes.
I will say this though. If Trinity improves as much from last week as they did from the John Curtis game, Allen is in for a tremendously rough and tough game. This is not bragging. We in the stands were in awe when we saw how much they had improved. I personally feel that they played as well as they played for the Plano game last year. Watching the multitude ob backs and receivers being used with success was a real thrill. If this is what we have to look forward to, watch out everybody. I kid you not, Tevin Williams is a SUPER SOPH that will be a Nance repeat with afew more pounds. CHill never even got close to getting to him when he reached his stride at the corner. He is simply amazing!! In addition, the other backup offensive players definitely were having fun with their success.
So, all in all, Trinity has all of the cards in this matchup. If they play themm, or need them, then Allen is blessed to have the shorter ride home after the game.;):D

What can I say, I like a good defense. It's been so long since we have had one I am jones'ing. I can't dissagree with anything you have said.

I am being optomistic and upbeat in support of my team. To Paraphrase coach Dodge. Both teams coming into a contest have the will to win. I won't do anything to work against that will to win. It's just what good fans do.

I hope no one mistakes that for delusionment. I think everyone knows the enormity of the task in front of us.

YOU CAN DOOO IIIIT!!!

GO EAGLES!!!


~

[TrojanHorse03]

In your opinion bigdaddydog, does Allen have a better defense than Trinity?

[stinger]

What can I say, I like a good defense. It's been so long since we have had one I am jones'ing. I can't dissagree with anything you have said.

I am being optomistic and upbeat in support of my team. To Paraphrase coach Dodge. Both teams coming into a contest have the will to win. I won't do anything to work against that will to win. It's just what good fans do.

I hope no one mistakes that for delusionment. I think everyone knows the enormity of the task in front of us.

YOU CAN DOOO IIIIT!!!

GO EAGLES!!!


~



One thing is for sure....Allen will bring the axe to the woodshed in this one. Trinity will have to play their cards right to come out on top. This game will set up both teams for a very successful season, no matter what the outcome is.

[SLC]

One thing is for sure....Allen will bring the axe to the woodshed in this one. Trinity will have to play their cards right to come out on top. This game will set up both teams for a very successful season, no matter what the outcome is.


WOW... I cant believe you just said that... Out loud.:confused:

MARK:rolleyes:

[jbusch]

One thing is for sure....Allen will bring the axe to the woodshed in this one. Trinity will have to play their cards right to come out on top. This game will set up both teams for a very successful season, no matter what the outcome is. Will they know what to do with it? :D

[TrojanHorse03]

WOW... I cant believe you just said that... Out loud.:confused:

MARK:rolleyes:

Well we have seen what can happen when you don't execute the right way and turn the ball over versus a top 5 team, Allen shouldn't be underestimated as well.

[Trojan4653]

are you talking about CH? If so it would be something to see them again in the playoffs, they are locked in D2, ET is locked in D1 according to the UIL attendance figures.

Hopefully CH goes undefeated the rest of the season and wins the D2 title while ET does the same and wins D1 and then we can have a peaceful off seaon on the boards not arguing about which 5A champion is the better team.;)

ooops......:notworthy and you have finally come up with the "perfect" off season sloution to the D1 / D2 argument

[SLC]

Well we have seen what can happen when you don't execute the right way and turn the ball over versus a top 5 team, Allen shouldn't be underestimated as well.


Nor overestimated.

[jbusch]

Nor overestimated.

:notworthy

[Trojanman96]

Ok, so Allen played Plano in the 4th game of the season and Burkhead, Meger, Lott, Et Al. were fresh and had been hitting their stride since the beginning of the season. Trinity played Plano late in the playoffs when They were banged up and bruised.

Allen's defense held Plano to fewer points than all but 1 (Plano West) of their other 14 opponents. Allen's offense scored more ponts than all but 1 (Wylie) of Plano's 14 other opponents.

I'm afraid your point is moot. The common opponent is a factor to be considered seriously.

Cheers,


~

Considering it took plano 3 ot to score that much says everything. Plus our defense really held them to 21.

You Fail

[Empire strikes back]

Trinity wins nuff said. Allen has a good chance though, but in my own opinion, Permian, Plano and North Shore has the best chance to beat Trinity.

[stinger]

WOW... I cant believe you just said that... Out loud.:confused:

MARK:rolleyes:

SHHHH....not so loud. I am so proud of their response Friday night that I neededto do that to come back to earth.:ninja:

[bigdaddydog]

In your opinion bigdaddydog, does Allen have a better defense than Trinity?

I may be old, but I'm not crazy!! Yet!! :D

It is my opinion that Allen's defense is better than it was last year.


~

[bigdaddydog]

Considering it took plano 3 ot to score that much says everything. Plus our defense really held them to 21.

You Fail

Ok , I concede that your defense really held them to 21. What surprises me is that you guys could'nt put them away in regulation like Allen did! :rolleyes: :p


You Flail :D

~

[BigFoot]

BigDaddy.. Thats a nice Collin County Homer pick you made there.

I have ran this through my head for days and thought of every senario I can.. And not one has Allen coming out on top.

Trinity on offense vs Allen deffense... Big advantage Trinity. Allen just hasn't shown the ability to stop a team that can punch them in the mouth from the get go.

Allen on offense vs Trinity deffense... Again advantage Trinity.. Though not as big, Cause Allen will spread Trinity out and make them cover more of the field than JC and Chill did. But the big Trinity D line will wear on those Allen O lineman and get pressure.

I have already picked a BIG win for Trinity in another thread and I will stick with that prediction. This one is heartbreak for an Allen team who has seen plenty of that over the past few years.


Trinity 42

Allen 10

Be careful with the word big...Our coach doesn't leave our starters in when we get ahead in the 3rd quarter. Not to say we will do that just that beating someone by huge numbers is something that usually doesn't happen.

I hope we play well but the margin of victory is not important.

[SLC13]

The only chance for Allen in this one is if ET gets sick doing the HAKA downwind of the porta-potties.........

ET 38
Allen 10

[dragonpants]

This is going to be a total whooppin....Trinity but a lot.

[trojanbacker]

I will say that if Trinity progresses as far this week as they did in the days between the first and second game, then I like their chances against Allen. Right now, Trinity is like a race car that's not hitting on all its cylinders. Too many mistakes, dumb penalties, fumbles, blown assignments, etc. The potential is there to be a really good team at some point in the season, but they're not there yet.

If Trinity doesn't play bring their very best game, then Allen or any other good team, can beat them. After the game Friday night, Lineweaver said that they'd watch the film and he was sure they'd see plenty of things to work on this week. I think they'll be ready.

We're looking forward to making our first trip to Allen this week, portable toilets and all, and seeing their 23,450-member band.

[TrojanHorse03]

I think this will be a close game because I'm not sure people realize this but Allen presents some challenges we have not seen all year. This will be the first true passing threat we seen so far and this will actually be the best passing game we have seen since the classic game with Plano in the playoffs. It's been a while seen we have been really tested through the air the way we will be against Allen. This will be a much more accurate litmus test of our pass defense than John Curtis and Cedar Hill as well as our defense of a true dual threat quarterback who can pass as well as run in Matt Brown.

[TrojanHorse03]

Right now, Trinity is like a race car that's not hitting on all its cylinders. Too many mistakes, dumb penalties, fumbles, blown assignments, etc. The potential is there to be a really good team at some point in the season, but they're not there yet.

If Trinity doesn't play bring their very best game, then Allen or any other good team, can beat them. After the game Friday night, Lineweaver said that they'd watch the film and he was sure they'd see plenty of things to work on this week. I think they'll be ready.


Hit the nail on the head. There's definitely things Trinity needs to improve on as well, chief among them fumbles. Coach Lineweaver knows best.

[trojanbacker]

By the way, did anyone watch the interview with Lineweaver on the replay on Saturday? It was classic Lineweaver:

"We were a little scared coming out here so far out in the country. But, then we saw that their field is 100 yards just like ours, and that their team has a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds just like ours....and we thought, well, let's just go ahead and play the game."

How can you not like a guy like that?

[Coach J]

I have been an Allen season ticket holder for years. I have been to more high school games than guys that get paid to do it. I think I am very objective in my opinions. So let me give you my thoughts.

First, is Allen overrated? Yes. Are they a bad team? No. Not the #3 team in the state but probably a top 10. Probably in the top 4 or 5 in DFW area. There are probably 2 teams in West Texas as good or better. Three or four teams in the Houston - central Texas area that are better as well. That's it. Are they as good the traditional powers (Trinity, SLC)? No, but then again, who is?

The D is better this year, especially against the pass. Jeremy Reeves is the real deal at corner. The middle is still weak. But the biggest weakness (and the strength of Trinity) is the RUN DEFENSE! Allen will NOT be able to stop the run. Trinity will have 400+ rushing yards - easy!

Allen's offense is down a little this year from previous years. It will be difficult for them to score against Trinity.

IMO - from an Allen fan - Trinity 63 - Allen 7

By seeing this score, people will say Allen is way overrated and should not be in top 25 much less top 3. As I said earlier. Allen is not that bad. They just do not match up well against Trinity. They actually match up better against SLC than Trinity this year (not saying they can beat SLC either). TRINITY'S STRENGTH IS ALLEN'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS!!! ALLEN CANNOT STOP THE RUN. And for those of you that say, well so and so has a good running game too so Allen can't beat them (you may be right) but can your D stop Allen's offense? Trinity's can. Not a lot of teams can say they have.

[TrojanHorse03]

I have been an Allen season ticket holder for years. I have been to more high school games than guys that get paid to do it. I think I am very objective in my opinions. So let me give you my thoughts.

First, is Allen overrated? Yes. Are they a bad team? No. Not the #3 team in the state but probably a top 10. Probably in the top 4 or 5 in DFW area. There are probably 2 teams in West Texas as good or better. Three or four teams in the Houston - central Texas area that are better as well. That's it. Are they as good the traditional powers (Trinity, SLC)? No, but then again, who is?

The D is better this year, especially against the pass. Jeremy Reeves is the real deal at corner. The middle is still weak. But the biggest weakness (and the strength of Trinity) is the RUN DEFENSE! Allen will NOT be able to stop the run. Trinity will have 400+ rushing yards - easy!

Allen's offense is down a little this year from previous years. It will be difficult for them to score against Trinity.

IMO - from an Allen fan - Trinity 63 - Allen 7

By seeing this score, people will say Allen is way overrated and should not be in top 25 much less top 3. As I said earlier. Allen is not that bad. They just do not match up well against Trinity. They actually match up better against SLC than Trinity this year (not saying they can beat SLC either). TRINITY'S STRENGTH IS ALLEN'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS!!! ALLEN CANNOT STOP THE RUN. And for those of you that say, well so and so has a good running game too so Allen can't beat them (you may be right) but can your D stop Allen's offense? Trinity's can. Not a lot of teams can say they have.

Well that's certainly one side of the story. Here's a contrasting opinion http://www.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?FID=798&...p;TID=114994161 . As Trinity should of learned last year is that a team only has to be good enough that evening. In the playoffs vs. Permian we ran for over 300 yards but on that one night in September they didn't shut us down like Permian fans would say later but they did contain us(181 yards rushing) and we also didn't protect the football. Say we fumble on special teams or on the one yard line on a handoff and find our selfs down a quick 14-0(things we've have seen happen) we might not be able to enjoy the offensive balance we have enjoyed so far. Let's no forget what Permian showed us a team could do for one night by underestimating what Allen may rise up to do in theirs. Trinity will not underestimate what Allen can do, and Allen fans shouldn't either even if many of them are really just blowing smoke so to speak ;) .

[T's UP 93]

I hve never been to Allen's stadium. How is the parking? I know to get there early is the seating that scarce? HAKA IS COMING TO TOWN!!HAKAAAAAAA!!

[SLC93]

Trinity by 14. Allen is, and always will be, Carroll Lite with 0 defensive calories. Trinity is a monster that doesn't diet. Bad combination.

[tjw]

I hve never been to Allen's stadium. How is the parking? I know to get there early is the seating that scarce? HAKA IS COMING TO TOWN!!HAKAAAAAAA!!

Parking near the stadium is limited, people are really asked to park at the high school & take the buses to the stadium but seems no one does.

The stadium is past due for being replaced and should have years ago. Finally will be on the ballot next May and new stadim couple years later. Until then they added more seats completely around the field. And yes homers sit on the visitor side at one end.

[SLC93]

I hve never been to Allen's stadium. How is the parking? I know to get there early is the seating that scarce? HAKA IS COMING TO TOWN!!HAKAAAAAAA!!

I know you love the boys from Hakaville. I'm not encouraging you to stay home. Be prepared for one of the worst, visitor experiences out there in 5A football. To think a program with the success of Allen plays in a facility like that, here in Texas, is just sad. Hope they are successful with their new proposal.

[slcdragonfan]

I have been an Allen season ticket holder for years. I have been to more high school games than guys that get paid to do it. I think I am very objective in my opinions. So let me give you my thoughts.

First, is Allen overrated? Yes. Are they a bad team? No. Not the #3 team in the state but probably a top 10. Probably in the top 4 or 5 in DFW area. There are probably 2 teams in West Texas as good or better. Three or four teams in the Houston - central Texas area that are better as well. That's it. Are they as good the traditional powers (Trinity, SLC)? No, but then again, who is?

The D is better this year, especially against the pass. Jeremy Reeves is the real deal at corner. The middle is still weak. But the biggest weakness (and the strength of Trinity) is the RUN DEFENSE! Allen will NOT be able to stop the run. Trinity will have 400+ rushing yards - easy!

Allen's offense is down a little this year from previous years. It will be difficult for them to score against Trinity.

IMO - from an Allen fan - Trinity 63 - Allen 7

By seeing this score, people will say Allen is way overrated and should not be in top 25 much less top 3. As I said earlier. Allen is not that bad. They just do not match up well against Trinity. They actually match up better against SLC than Trinity this year (not saying they can beat SLC either). TRINITY'S STRENGTH IS ALLEN'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS!!! ALLEN CANNOT STOP THE RUN. And for those of you that say, well so and so has a good running game too so Allen can't beat them (you may be right) but can your D stop Allen's offense? Trinity's can. Not a lot of teams can say they have.

That's a pretty decent evaluation, thanks. And I also have though that perhaps Allen belonged somewhere in the 7-15 ranking, I left it alone since you were just ahead of SLC in the ranking here and didn't want to be misinterpreted. Since you have said it, I can agree without being accused of sour grapes.

[bigdaddydog]

I hve never been to Allen's stadium. How is the parking? I know to get there early is the seating that scarce? HAKA IS COMING TO TOWN!!HAKAAAAAAA!!

The real Haka Lives in Allen. She is the Senior Cheerleader Captain! :cool:

As TJW said, what Parking?

There are about 250 parking spots south of the Stadium and about 450 to the West of the stadium. the rest of the parking is around the Freshman center lots and in the lots along Greenville north of Main Street. The only thing you need to worry about is DO NOT Park where there are patron only parking signs. you will get towed.

I will attach an aerial photo showing what I am talking about. You can either exit 75 north at Bethany and go east to Greenville and then north or you can exit McDermott and just go east to Greenville ave. Do Not go north prior to greenville unless you know where you are going.

There are plenty of fast food and a couple sit down places to eat if that is what you want. If you are going to sit and eat then get there really early.

Braums
Chicken Express
Del Rancho Burger
Sonic
Jalapenos
Bar B Cutie
Taco Bell
Wendy's
Etc...

Black is generally ok to park, but look for signs. Red is where I know for sure you should not park. (Blockbuster tows) The green lines are the paths to the entry to the stadium.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2859712939_c855d5a24f_o.jpg



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[Maxthedog]

I think this will be a close game because I'm not sure people realize this but Allen presents some challenges we have not seen all year. This will be the first true passing threat we seen so far and this will actually be the best passing game we have seen since the classic game with Plano in the playoffs. It's been a while seen we have been really tested through the air the way we will be against Allen. This will be a much more accurate litmus test of our pass defense than John Curtis and Cedar Hill as well as our defense of a true dual threat quarterback who can pass as well as run in Matt Brown.


BINGO TH!

[bigdaddydog]

I know you love the boys from Hakaville. I'm not encouraging you to stay home. Be prepared for one of the worst, visitor experiences out there in 5A football. To think a program with the success of Allen plays in a facility like that, here in Texas, is just sad. Hope they are successful with their new proposal.

You do a great Eeyore impression! :p :D

I am not too sure how a 65 million dollar stadium is going to be received by the voters in May 2009? :confused:

In the short term our November Bond election includes a few million dollars for Bathroom / concessions and other improvements to the current stadium.

Cheers,


~

[jmo2818]

To Trinty Fans,

Good luck Friday and hope all stay healthy. About what time does Trinty start the Haka?

[T's UP 93]

7:25 Hakaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

[jmo2818]

7:25 Hakaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!


Thanks, I was really expecting someone to say 7:30 (kick-off)

[Bandnerd1983]

The real Haka Lives in Allen. She is the Senior Cheerleader Captain! :cool:

As TJW said, what Parking?

There are about 250 parking spots south of the Stadium and about 450 to the West of the stadium. the rest of the parking is around the Freshman center lots and in the lots along Greenville north of Main Street. The only thing you need to worry about is DO NOT Park where there are patron only parking signs. you will get towed.

I will attach an aerial photo showing what I am talking about. You can either exit 75 north at Bethany and go east to Greenville and then north or you can exit McDermott and just go east to Greenville ave. Do Not go north prior to greenville unless you know where you are going.

There are plenty of fast food and a couple sit down places to eat if that is what you want. If you are going to sit and eat then get there really early.

Braums
Chicken Express
Del Rancho Burger
Sonic
Jalapenos
Bar B Cutie
Taco Bell
Wendy's
Etc...

Black is generally ok to park, but look for signs. Red is where I know for sure you should not park. (Blockbuster tows) The green lines are the paths to the entry to the stadium.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/2859712939_c855d5a24f_o.jpg



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And do not park at the two apartment complexes next to the shopping center they will tow you car.

[trojanbacker]

Was hoping the aerial shot would show where the porta potties are.....


And, you probably won't be able to see or hear much of the haka from the home side. Come on over to the visitor side for a much better view. ;)

[LoboBooster73]

The offense is shaky, defense is decent at best. I fail to see what we're seeing here. I mean we barely scored above 20 points against Rockwall and Longview.

There is a huge difference between Week 0 and Week 1. Not only in play on the field, but in coaching and officiating. Penalties and tunovers beat Longview more so than Allen. The 7-7 score at half could have easily have been 17-0 Longview. Allen did execute some big plays in 3rd quarter and I will give them credit for so far being only team to score on Longview's 1st string defense. However, I didn't see enough to make me want to pick Allen over Trinity.

[SLC]

You do a great Eeyore impression! :p :D

I am not too sure how a 65 million dollar stadium is going to be received by the voters in May 2009? :confused:

In the short term our November Bond election includes a few million dollars for Bathroom / concessions and other improvements to the current stadium.

Cheers,


~


I think the Allen folks will pass this easily. They have a 50 million dollar skatepark/biketrack/rollerhockey facility. Football is pretty big in Allen and ALL their kids go to one high school. BTW my son loves that skatepark... Voted top 10 outdoor skatepark in the US.

[SLC]

To Trinty Fans,

Good luck Friday and hope all stay healthy. About what time does Trinty start the Haka?

They do it before and after the game.

[bigdaddydog]

Dallas Morning News Story on Allen Stadium

Allen's Eagle Stadium can be a headache for opponents (http://www.hsgametime.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/mwixon/stories/DN-hswixoncol_16spo.State.Edition1.ea9d34.html)

"So for fans going to the game, planning ahead is important. Get to the game early and remember what Allen fans have said for years:

Buying a ticket does not mean you get a seat."

So how much does Trinity drop down in the polls if Allen wins? :eek: :)

How much does Allen drop in the polls if Trinity wins?


~

[AllenEagles15]

Defense!!!
Last year against Allen, Plano's Carson Meger 24-27-1-367 Rex Burkhead 7-156

Last year against Trinity, Rex Burkhead 32-157 Carson Meger 19-37-3-182.

Okay, rushing numbers fairly similar. Passing I agree 367 is substantially different than 182. But what about the final score? Not to mention that Jeremy Reeves has improved in that area along with Steven Terrell.

Allen - 35 Plano - 26

Euless Trinity - 30 Plano - 27

Allen's defense always comes up big with a turn over or a key stop in a crucial situation, and granted our defense has improved from last year!

Offense?

Rushing:Jeremiah Williams 25-143, Matt Brown 17-112 total 255
Passing:Matt Brown 23-34-3-249

Rushing: Samir Baker 34-206
Passing: Denarius McGhee 9-19-1-164


Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.

Trinity will be tough,
:)
Allen 24
Trinity 21

[Trojanman96]

Defense!!!
Last year against Allen, Plano's Carson Meger 24-27-1-367 Rex Burkhead 7-156

Last year against Trinity, Rex Burkhead 32-157 Carson Meger 19-37-3-182.

Okay, rushing numbers fairly similar. Passing I agree 367 is substantially different than 182. But what about the final score? Not to mention that Jeremy Reeves has improved in that area along with Steven Terrell.

Allen - 35 Plano - 26

Euless Trinity - 30 Plano - 27

Allen's defense always comes up big with a turn over or a key stop in a crucial situation, and granted our defense has improved from last year!

Offense?

Rushing:Jeremiah Williams 25-143, Matt Brown 17-112 total 255
Passing:Matt Brown 23-34-3-249

Rushing: Samir Baker 34-206
Passing: Denarius McGhee 9-19-1-164


Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.

Trinity will be tough,
:)
Allen 24
Trinity 21

???????????????

[da hawaiian]

Defense!!!
Last year against Allen, Plano's Carson Meger 24-27-1-367 Rex Burkhead 7-156

Last year against Trinity, Rex Burkhead 32-157 Carson Meger 19-37-3-182.

Okay, rushing numbers fairly similar. Passing I agree 367 is substantially different than 182. But what about the final score? Not to mention that Jeremy Reeves has improved in that area along with Steven Terrell.

Allen - 35 Plano - 26

Euless Trinity - 30 Plano - 27

Allen's defense always comes up big with a turn over or a key stop in a crucial situation, and granted our defense has improved from last year!

Offense?

Rushing:Jeremiah Williams 25-143, Matt Brown 17-112 total 255
Passing:Matt Brown 23-34-3-249

Rushing: Samir Baker 34-206
Passing: Denarius McGhee 9-19-1-164


Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.

Trinity will be tough,
:)
Allen 24
Trinity 21

So it takes Burkhead 32 touches to gain against Trinity what it takes him 7 touches to gain against Allen...and you claim that's the same??????? That's some effort at spinning wouldn't you say?

[stinger]

Defense!!!
Last year against Allen, Plano's Carson Meger 24-27-1-367 Rex Burkhead 7-156

Last year against Trinity, Rex Burkhead 32-157 Carson Meger 19-37-3-182.

Okay, rushing numbers fairly similar. Passing I agree 367 is substantially different than 182. But what about the final score? Not to mention that Jeremy Reeves has improved in that area along with Steven Terrell.

Allen - 35 Plano - 26

Euless Trinity - 30 Plano - 27

Allen's defense always comes up big with a turn over or a key stop in a crucial situation, and granted our defense has improved from last year!

Offense?

Rushing:Jeremiah Williams 25-143, Matt Brown 17-112 total 255
Passing:Matt Brown 23-34-3-249

Rushing: Samir Baker 34-206
Passing: Denarius McGhee 9-19-1-164


Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.

Trinity will be tough,
:)
Allen 24
Trinity 21


How can you even compare last year to this year? Trinity has more weapons. Look at how many backs and receivers they used last week. This year's defense is faster and improved over last year. Look at the passing stats for McGhee. Your points are as loud as the ones brought up by the "speedy" Cedar Hill team last week. And what happened? It is really fun to hear how Trinity does not have the tools, but they have beaten opponents that Allen couldn't. What would Trinity have done to the three schools that Allen faced? Especially after they put in the backups.

[powerofthehaka]

Defense!!!
Last year against Allen, Plano's Carson Meger 24-27-1-367 Rex Burkhead 7-156

Last year against Trinity, Rex Burkhead 32-157 Carson Meger 19-37-3-182.

Okay, rushing numbers fairly similar. Passing I agree 367 is substantially different than 182. But what about the final score? Not to mention that Jeremy Reeves has improved in that area along with Steven Terrell.

Allen - 35 Plano - 26

Euless Trinity - 30 Plano - 27

Allen's defense always comes up big with a turn over or a key stop in a crucial situation, and granted our defense has improved from last year!

Offense?

Rushing:Jeremiah Williams 25-143, Matt Brown 17-112 total 255
Passing:Matt Brown 23-34-3-249

Rushing: Samir Baker 34-206
Passing: Denarius McGhee 9-19-1-164


Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.

Trinity will be tough,
:)
Allen 24
Trinity 21

Trinity is a completely different animal than you're used to. I can't wait!:eek:

[dragonpants]

Sorry Allen, but you have a false sense of security.

Your defense is still not even average and your offense is not nearly as good as last year. Not even close.

You have yet to play a 5A school and did not look good in either win that was not against a team from Mexico.

It is going to be a long night for the Eagles regardless of where you are playing.

[farmerfan]

I am looking forward to this game. The Trinity team that showed up last week looked great. They have some great backs and the new sophomore number 7 is going to be a stud before his time at Trinity is over. As good as Trey looked last week I felt that numer 7 was the most impressive back that night.
Denarius looks great at QB and the Trinity passing game is going to keep a lot of defenses honest to allow the Hawgs to continue and dominate the running game.
Defensively Trinity is one of the best coached defenses in the entire state. THey play assignment football and their pursuit angles were great last week which made the CH speed a non factor. Mr Fielo made many tackles but it was also his discipline that forced the CH backs to cut back to the middle allowing the pursuit the other lb's took to make the tackle for minimum gain.
The defensive line improved greatly IMO from week zero to last week and I expect them to get some pressur eon Allen this week.
I dont think Allen has seen a defense like Trinity will throw at it this week.
My prediction is Trinity 31 Allen 10.

[Eagle1986]

Sorry Allen, but you have a false sense of security.

Your defense is still not even average and your offense is not nearly as good as last year. Not even close.

You have yet to play a 5A school and did not look good in either win that was not against a team from Mexico.

It is going to be a long night for the Eagles regardless of where you are playing.

The way you talk pants, sounds like you must have come to all three Allen games.:cool: Thanks for coming out and supporting our Allen Eagles.;) Sounds like we better just stay at the house, we have no right to even be stepping on the field with Trinity!:confused:

All that said, I've got all the respect in the world for Trinity and will be looking forward to seeing the team and the fans in person. The only way to judge your success, is to play the BEST!:D Good Luck to the Trojans!

[T's UP 93]

Defense!!!
Last year against Allen, Plano's Carson Meger 24-27-1-367 Rex Burkhead 7-156

Last year against Trinity, Rex Burkhead 32-157 Carson Meger 19-37-3-182.

Okay, rushing numbers fairly similar. Passing I agree 367 is substantially different than 182. But what about the final score? Not to mention that Jeremy Reeves has improved in that area along with Steven Terrell.

Allen - 35 Plano - 26

Euless Trinity - 30 Plano - 27

Allen's defense always comes up big with a turn over or a key stop in a crucial situation, and granted our defense has improved from last year!

Offense?

Rushing:Jeremiah Williams 25-143, Matt Brown 17-112 total 255
Passing:Matt Brown 23-34-3-249

Rushing: Samir Baker 34-206
Passing: Denarius McGhee 9-19-1-164


Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.

Trinity will be tough,
:)
Allen 24
Trinity 21


Don't mean to sound mean but if he QB puts his head down this week your backup better be ready. HAKAAAAAA!!

[TrojanHorse03]

Defense!!!
Browns ability to avoid the rush with great athleticism and ability to make throws on the run, and for a fact put his head down and run into people should change most peoples opinions.


I do agree that how we defend Matt Brown will be a big factor in this game but for a totally different reason. This will be by far the best passing game we faced in almost a year(Plano). And that's why I feel how Trinity did against run heavy teams in Cedar Hill and John Curtis isn't really applicable for this week. This will really be a whole new challenge Trinity will be faced with this week, much more pass attempts this game, much better receivers, and a line much more comfortable in pass protections will provided a big new test for our secondary and d-line. I also get the feeling Allen will bring a lot of resiliency for this game, and because of there passing capabilites I think this will stay a close game.

[dragonpants]

The way you talk pants, sounds like you must have come to all three Allen games.:cool: Thanks for coming out and supporting our Allen Eagles.;) Sounds like we better just stay at the house, we have no right to even be stepping on the field with Trinity!:confused:

All that said, I've got all the respect in the world for Trinity and will be looking forward to seeing the team and the fans in person. The only way to judge your success, is to play the BEST!:D Good Luck to the Trojans!

You guys scheduled them. I have respect for Allen for doing that but I think Trinity is too much for this years Allen team.
Sorry if you do not like my opinion but the team from Mexico had no right being on the field with you guys but we all have to fill a non district schedule.

We will all know more on Friday night and for the fans I hope I am wrong and the game is closer than this visionary expects.

I love how humble the Trinity fans are.

[AllenEagles15]

You guys scheduled them. I have respect for Allen for doing that but I think Trinity is too much for this years Allen team.
Sorry if you do not like my opinion but the team from Mexico had no right being on the field with you guys but we all have to fill a non district schedule.


Worse thing is that it is a two year deal, we play them next year also.

[bigdaddydog]

Worse thing is that it is a two year deal, we play them next year also.

That's not a bad thing!! Having the best teams play each other should make both of our teams better. Trinity's style is different than any that we see in our district and on the surface that may not seem to help, but learning how to defend against Trinity will make us that much better when other teams try to run on us.

I am also looking forward to traveling to Euless next year.

I have talked to a few of the players and They are very much looking forward to the game. The attitude was pretty much like Trojanhorse03s Sig. Repect Everybody, Fear No One, Have Fun. The kids are through the review of last weeks game and are working on areas to improve along with things for the Trinity game.

In the trenches there is no hype. It's all business and preparation by the coaches and kids. :)

I don't know about anyone else, but if I had to choose a game to lose, I would much rather lose a non district game as opposed to say a game against Plano. :p


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[AllenEagles15]

I believe we play Mexico again next year.
If I'm not mistaking...

[Dynastybegan86]

Okay...Trinity came through a very tough 0 week. Allen has been doing well. This should be a tough game matching strengths. Any thoughts from both sides? I won't get on my homer wagon until I have some ideas regarding what's out there.:Music

You have a wagon?:D

[TrojanMom88]

I love how humble the Trinity fans are.[/QUOTE]

Lineweaver keeps us humble...but he keeps us focused too!

To hear coach tell it, the Allen game was scheduled because no one else wanted to play us in week 3. I don't know why?? You would think a coach would want to challenge his team.

I have great respected and appreciation for Allen's Coach for taking on the Challenge.

May both teams play hard, learn much and remain healthy!!!!:)

This is Trinity's Year!!

[Eagle1986]

Just reading all the posts from you Trinity fans makes me respect you that much more. If this is any indication of what your team and fans are like, I applaud you all!;) We in Allen would like nothing more than to give you a good, clean, hard fought game!:)

[stinger]

You have a wagon?:D


Yes I do...pulled by jackasses. HA HA. Where you been? Haven't heard or been able to argue with you. Been too quiet on your site.
Hope all is well.

[stinger]

Just reading all the posts from you Trinity fans makes me respect you that much more. If this is any indication of what your team and fans are like, I applaud you all!;) We in Allen would like nothing more than to give you a good, clean, hard fought game!:)


That is all either team can expect. Leaving the game with no injuries would make it even better.

[trojanbacker]

After the battle to get to Allen, push our way into the stadium and fight our way to the porta-porties, the game will seem like a walk in the park. Speaking for the fans only, of course.....

An actual question from a non-football expert type of fan (me): I see that the Allen QB is also the leading rusher. Is he getting his yards from plays designed to run out of the spread, or is he gaining that many yards scrambling because he can't find anyone open?

If he's going to run that much against Trinity, I hope he's a tough kid.

[Eagle1986]

After the battle to get to Allen, push our way into the stadium and fight our way to the porta-porties, the game will seem like a walk in the park. Speaking for the fans only, of course.....

An actual question from a non-football expert type of fan (me): I see that the Allen QB is also the leading rusher. Is he getting his yards from plays designed to run out of the spread, or is he gaining that many yards scrambling because he can't find anyone open?

If he's going to run that much against Trinity, I hope he's a tough kid.

Some designed, some not. I cringe every time he carries the ball, but he is one of the toughest on the team. He's very good at initiating contact, usually with the secondary, to reduce the amount of punishment he takes.

[stinger]

Some designed, some not. I cringe every time he carries the ball, but he is one of the toughest on the team. He's very good at initiating contact, usually with the secondary, to reduce the amount of punishment he takes.

He should become very familiar with Norman and others, who will leave him with some memories after the first couple of attempts. I hope this is not his style, because the coach will get him hurt if he is a primary weapon for the run. This is not bragging, just consider the other games.

[trojanbacker]

Thanks, Eagle1986. He's obviously a talented kid. Looking forward to seeing him play Friday night.

[allendad]

I'm leaving town for a couple days.

I'll be back Friday morning.

I am looking forward to the game.

I know what Allen's shortcomings are
and look forward to see if they can
step it up to at least compete.

Our stadium . . . . . .
Well, it's all we have to offer you.

Maybe in a couple of year we will have
a new and improved "house", but we
extend a hearty welcome to Allen and
Eagle stadiumette.

One word of advise . . . . . .
Don't try and roast any pigs in the parking
lot ! ! ! ;);););)

See y'all on Friday!

[stinger]

I'm leaving town for a couple days.

I'll be back Friday morning.

I am looking forward to the game.

I know what Allen's shortcomings are
and look forward to see if they can
step it up to at least compete.

Our stadium . . . . . .
Well, it's all we have to offer you.

Maybe in a couple of year we will have
a new and improved "house", but we
extend a hearty welcome to Allen and
Eagle stadiumette.

One word of advise . . . . . .
Don't try and roast any pigs in the parking
lot ! ! ! ;);););)

See y'all on Friday!


Looking forward to a great game between two beasts. Hopefully, no injuries, but lots of hard hitting. As for the pig....how about a goat??

[trojanbacker]

Hey, it's all good natured kidding about the stadium. You guys are building new schools, which really should be the priority. The stadium can come some day down the road....

And, I have to tell you, when you come to Pennington next year you'll see that our bathrooms and concessions are nothing to brag about. I mean, we have running water, but other than that, they're pretty poor IMO. Nice place to watch a game though.

We'll take care of the pig roasting before hitting the road. I only hope there is no crow eating after the game......

[Eagle1986]

Hey, it's all good natured kidding about the stadium. You guys are building new schools, which really should be the priority. The stadium can come some day down the road....

And, I have to tell you, when you come to Pennington next year you'll see that our bathrooms and concessions are nothing to brag about. I mean, we have running water, but other than that, they're pretty poor IMO. Nice place to watch a game though.

We'll take care of the pig roasting before hitting the road. I only hope there is no crow eating after the game......

Our home side bathrooms are not much better than the visitors, so don't think were living the good life there. I've got a daughter in drill team, so I don't get anytime for a bathroom brake anyway, that's why the catheter is so handy!:D

[trojanbacker]

Now, there's a novel fundraising idea: "Get your official Trojan catheters right here, folks......"

[NHB06]

Our home side bathrooms are not much better than the visitors, so don't think were living the good life there. I've got a daughter in drill team, so I don't get anytime for a bathroom brake anyway, that's why the catheter is so handy!:D

I've never seen a concession stand at Allen stadium. Is it a roach coach parked somewhere near the porta-potties?

[trojanbacker]

Not meaning to turn this into a "concession stands I have known" thread, but the Cedar Hill folks had it all together last week. They actually had enough windows open and people manning them and the food was not bad. Trinity shows up with a lot of fans and it's so rare to visit a stadium where they have their act together like Cedar Hill. Class act all the way.

[Eagle1986]

I've never seen a concession stand at Allen stadium. Is it a roach coach parked somewhere near the porta-potties?

Brick building north end of stadium behind our student section. There are also
bathrooms on either side of this concession stand.

[Eagle1986]

Not meaning to turn this into a "concession stands I have known" thread, but the Cedar Hill folks had it all together last week. They actually had enough windows open and people manning them and the food was not bad. Trinity shows up with a lot of fans and it's so rare to visit a stadium where they have their act together like Cedar Hill. Class act all the way.

The same goes for the Wylie Pirates.:)

[jbusch]

Get your Allen game tickets at Penn. Field = $5 for adults

[The Warrior]

What's Trinity's W/L record in the last 4 years? I'm guessing 50-4? I'm going with Trinity in this one, but CVH game might be interesting down the road.:notworthy

[Leather Helmet Baller]

I think Allen has the better chance here than CVH because of the timing. This is a team whose offensive blocking schemes simply require more time to get down. Permian caught us early last year. Allen has the same opportunity.

Barring significant injury, this O-line rolls a little better each week.

[Leather Helmet Baller]

P.S. - I'm really sorry I keyed that Hummer at SLC...........
:D

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

What's Trinity's W/L record in the last 4 years? I'm guessing 50-4? I'm going with Trinity in this one, but CVH game might be interesting down the road.:notworthy
2004 11-3
2005 14-1 Won State
2006 11-1
2007 15-1 Won State

Total 51-6 for the last 4 seasons.

[Eagle1986]

2004 11-3
2005 14-1 Won State
2006 11-1
2007 15-1 Won State

Total 51-6 for the last 4 seasons.

Allen is 41-9 for the last 4 seasons, but no state titles.:( Still a pretty impressive run I believe in a very tough district.

[paradox169]

Both teams have very good football programs and this game will only make each team stronger.
But allens D has not been looking to strong, and ET a very fast and strong Oline. If Allens D can click early in the game than in might be close. But if Allen makes to many mistakes then its all over and ET will destroy them.

[TrojanHorse03]

Both teams have very good football programs and this game will only make each team stronger.
But allens D has not been looking to strong, and ET a very fast and strong Oline. If Allens D can click early in the game than in might be close. But if Allen makes to many mistakes then its all over and ET will destroy them.

That may not be as unlikely as some would think. We often don't look our best on that first series, and Allen's D has done better than you may have noticed. They may have given up some yards and plays but...they have actually done a impressive job of keeping teams out of the endzone by not allowing more than 7 points to this point. Some of the best defenses aren't necessarily the most talented or intimidating but those that have a sense of the moment and step up in the redzone where it counts most. Scoring efficiency will be very important for Trinity against this team in a big road game.

[da hawaiian]

That may not be as unlikely as something. We often don't look our best on that first series, and Allen's D has done better than you may have noticed. They may have given up some yards and plays but...they have actually done a impressive job of keeping teams out of the endzone by not allowing more than 7 points to this point. Some of the best defenses aren't necessarily the most talented or intimidating but those that have a sense of the moment and step up in the redzone where it counts moment. Scoring efficiency will be very important for Trinity against this team in big road game.

+1

[AllenEagles15]

Allen is 41-9 for the last 4 seasons, but no state titles.:( Still a pretty impressive run I believe in a very tough district.

Yeah we're currently 13-0 at home.

[c-lisle]

Allen is now finished with "The Cupcake Tech's" on their schedule. Longview is a good team and program, but graduation has them down this year from previous years. The team from Mexico couldn't beat most of the JV teams in the area, and Rockwall now split with 2 schools had no offense. It's true that you have to play the schedule you're dealt, but Allen is thumping their chest a little too much and will get to experience a true 5a opponent this next week. Allen has great talent and can match-up with alot of top 5a opponents in most areas. The difference is their coaching! It showed last year in the playoffs and will continue to be the difference in big games Allen is playing.
As Jerry Jones once said "There are five hundred coaches that could win with that talent". But since that coach left, there has been only 1 championship.
The bottom line is that when talent is equal or close to equal the coach will make the difference. I say Trinity 42 Allen 17.


you are right we lost alot to graduation but we are a much more talented team this year but very young and inexperienced. We have a stout defense and they played well enough for us to beat you but the offense is so young the coaches couldnt do alot with them and your D shut them down in the redzone....not to mention the two turnovers. Our first string D held you to 14 pts(i know you scored 21 but 7 was from a returned punt) and I am willing to bet that is the lowest you are held to all year...even against Trinity.

[stinger]

you are right we lost alot to graduation but we are a much more talented team this year but very young and inexperienced. We have a stout defense and they played well enough for us to beat you but the offense is so young the coaches couldnt do alot with them and your D shut them down in the redzone....not to mention the two turnovers. Our first string D held you to 14 pts(i know you scored 21 but 7 was from a returned punt) and I am willing to bet that is the lowest you are held to all year...even against Trinity.


I'll take that bet. Trinity will score 28+.

[trojan-man]

Yeah we're currently 13-0 at home.

13-1 after this friday:)

[AllenEagles15]

13-1 after this friday:)

We'll see :)

[dragonsdaddy]

et= probable repeat nstate champion
allen= over-rated

[bigdaddydog]

et= probable repeat nstate champion
allen= over-rated

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2849565146_e8d4e401b3_o.gif

ACK! :D



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[Trojanman96]

Get your Allen game tickets at Penn. Field = $5 for adults

WTF? Are you kidding? That Cheap?

[stinger]

13-1 after this friday:)


Definitely...
Consistency and power will beat the " who knows waht's next" team. Trinity has faced and beaten far better quality in all aspects that Allen.

[AllenEagles15]

Allen fans can get their tickets at the athletic facility from like 7am to 1pm today for 5$ for adults and 4$ for students.

[trojanbacker]

"Trinity has faced and beaten far better quality in all aspects than Allen."

Actually, no we haven't.

Both John Curtis and Cedar Hill were run-based teams with no real passing threat. Allen will be Trinity's first real test in the passing game this year.

I like our chances, because I know Lineweaver would never underestimate Allen.

[KT2000]

"Trinity has faced and beaten far better quality in all aspects than Allen."

Actually, no we haven't.

Both John Curtis and Cedar Hill were run-based teams with no real passing threat. Allen will be Trinity's first real test in the passing game this year.

I like our chances, because I know Lineweaver would never underestimate Allen.

Allen's passing game appears to be off if box scores are any indication. Brown is only at about 50% completion according to the DMN numbers. They haven't run particularly well either, so I will be very interested to see how this game goes.

[trojanbacker]

I agree that their numbers are down when compared to last year. I'm only saying that compared with Trinity's two previous opponents, their passing game is light years ahead of what we've faced so far. It's all relative.

[stinger]

I agree that their numbers are down when compared to last year. I'm only saying that compared with Trinity's two previous opponents, their passing game is light years ahead of what we've faced so far. It's all relative.

BUT...Trinity has contained better quarterbacks and backs this year. Even shut them down and cause a gameplan change.

[KT2000]

I agree that their numbers are down when compared to last year. I'm only saying that compared with Trinity's two previous opponents, their passing game is light years ahead of what we've faced so far. It's all relative.

I guess that shouldn't be surprising when players like Dan Buckner and Tariekus Ellis graduate, but I expected them to be more explosive than what they've shown so far.

I completely agree with what you are saying about the threat being there. Allen certainly poses much more of a threat in the air than either John Curtis or Cedar Hill. This is a good bit of scheduling on Trinity's part. Allen will be a good test.

[TrojanHorse03]

Agreed, it's a totally different obstacle when going from facing 28 passing attempts in the first 2 games combined, to defending that many passes in one game. Also some thing to consider, while the previous quarterback were inexperienced first year starters making they're first and 3rd starts totall respectively, Matt Brown already has a year under his belt and won't be learning on the job and as easily rattled. In the area of the passing game Allen is better by a long shot than our previous opponents so far, something Coach Lineweaver and the team are very well aware of.

[trojanbacker]

The John Curtis qb was a decent runner but looked lost back there when he had to throw the ball. I think he threw for 42 yards. Driphus Jackson (Cedar Hill) is going to be a good one but he's only a sophmore and it showed when their ground game got stuffed. He was 9-21-1 for 57 yards with many of those yards coming late in the game in that drive against our second team.

Brown is so far ahead of those two that it's not even a fair comparison. If you watch them on film, you'll see that not only can he get the ball in the hands of the right guys, he's really allusive when he runs with the ball and can take a hit. He's very similar in playing style to the qb at Plano (Meager?) and you know how we struggled to contain him last year.

Hey, I feel good about our D and expect them to be fully prepared like they always are, but let's not make this sound like it's just another game. It's not. These guys are good.

[jbusch]

Penn. field was almost out of Allen tickets this morning, another batch was due to arrive soon.

[c-lisle]

I'll take that bet. Trinity will score 28+.

no i meant lowest Allen would be held to offensively by an opposing teams defense....Longview held them to 14 pts......I bet they score more on Trinity.

[c-lisle]

I have posted this before but I was very impressed with Allens stadium atmosphere when we played them in week 0. It was awesome to see their students heckling the Lobo players while they were warming up. I was also impressed with how many students attended the game.

[TrojanHorse03]

no i meant lowest Allen would be held to offensively by an opposing teams defense....Longview held them to 14 pts......I bet they score more on Trinity.

We'll have to see...the team however is more concerned with getting the tough W by whatever means necessary...but we'll have to see on that one....

[jbusch]

JV Games


5:00PM

Trinity 21

Allen 14

Allens QB is a good athlete but had little support, got beat up pretty bad all night, finally KO'ed with about 1 minute left

7:00 PM

Trinity was okay first half but lathargic (sp?) second half. Allen was just too big, strong, athletic, fast, talented.

Trinity 24
Allen 14


:p

[jbusch]

I have posted this before but I was very impressed with Allens stadium atmosphere when we played them in week 0. It was awesome to see their students heckling the Lobo players while they were warming up. I was also impressed with how many students attended the game. good for the allen students ( sound like good kids ) ET likes it when you hassle them just ask OP

[LoboFan07]

Don't think I've ever cheered against Trinity.

Guess there's a first for everything. Go Eagles.

[AllenEagles15]

JV Games


5:00PM

Trinity 21

Allen 14

Allens QB is a good athlete but had little support, got beat up pretty bad all night, finally KO'ed with about 1 minute left

7:00 PM

Trinity was okay first half but lathargic (sp?) second half. Allen was just too big, strong, athletic, fast, talented.

Trinity 24
Allen 14


:p


Freshman also played tonight against Harwood. Which feeds intro trinity.


B team


51 - 0 Allen


A team


17-2 Allen

[bigdaddydog]

Freshman also played tonight against Harwood. Which feeds intro trinity.

B team

51 - 0 Allen

A team

17-2 Allen

This is going to be a great game and a great atmosphere. Standing room only. I enjoyed Lineweaver's remarks on Channel 11 news tonight. He and Coach Westerberg seem to have the same level headed attitude about this game. Win if you can, learn as much as you can, but not at all costs. This is not a playoff game and will not be treated as such by the people that matter.

Survival guide:

1. Get to the stadium early if you want a seat!!
1a. Get to the stadium early if you want to park within a mile of the stadium.
2. Go to the bathroom before you get to the stadium.
3. Don't drink too much during the game or you will have to go to the bathroom.
4. Women, Listen up! If you think you might have to go to the bathroom, bring some toilet paper.
5. Men, Do the women a favor and don't pee all over the seat in the porta potties.
6. Don't park in a place that has signs telling you not to park there (Blockbuster!)
7. Trinity and Allen fans! There will be lots of intermingling of fans in the seating general admission areas, be supportive of your teams, but be courtious at all times. (Allen fans,BE NICE to our guests!).
8. Trinity fans, do not go to the Sonic after the game.
9. Everyone drive safely!
10. Hug your kids! :)


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[Eagle1986]

[QUOTE=jbusch;886223]JV Games


5:00PM

Trinity 21

Allen 14

Allens QB is a good athlete but had little support, got beat up pretty bad all night, finally KO'ed with about 1 minute left

7:00 PM

Trinity was okay first half but lathargic (sp?) second half. Allen was just too big, strong, athletic, fast, talented.

Trinity 24
Allen 14



Saw the second game, the Q.B. for Trinity (#19) is a stud. The last touchdown he scored, was amazing. I think he played every position on the field though, hope ya'll don't wear him out. :eek:

[jbusch]

Freshman also played tonight against Harwood. Which feeds intro trinity.


B team


51 - 0 Allen


A team


17-2 Allen

Harwood is a QB factory,

the lines, RB's & Defense come from Euless Junior High, Harwood lines average about 35-40 lbs:D

[AllenEagles15]

Harwood is a QB factory,

the lines, RB's & Defense come from Euless Junior High, Harwood lines average about 35-40 lbs:D


Haha, yeah their QB had a ridiculous arm.
I guess I just played a better game (:

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

8. Trinity fans, do not go to the Sonic after the game.





Why not?

[bigdaddydog]

Why not?

Toooooo many teenagers! I guess I really should have included all adults in that statement. :D



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[Trojanman96]

no i meant lowest Allen would be held to offensively by an opposing teams defense....Longview held them to 14 pts......I bet they score more on Trinity.

Maybe against the backup players. But the first string will hold them fiercely. If, and I really mean IF, this is a blow-out, then the 2nd string will come out in the late 3rd or early 4th quarters. After that who knows how many points Alllen will score, maybe none.That will be thier best chance to prove you right.

[Trojanman96]

Freshman also played tonight against Harwood. Which feeds intro trinity.


B team


51 - 0 Allen


A team


17-2 Allen

Let's be honest here. A jr high team in their own system, against an Allen freshman team in the Allen system. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

[BigFoot]

The junior highs are not in their own system with the exception of Central.
However, Allen has all their 9th graders on one campus and can pick from the best of them. Our junior highs take the deck that is dealt to each. Then when they come as sophmores together we get to pick from the best in 10th grade.

[Trojanman96]

The junior highs are not in their own system with the exception of Central.
However, Allen has all their 9th graders on one campus and can pick from the best of them. Our junior highs take the deck that is dealt to each. Then when they come as sophmores together we get to pick from the best in 10th grade.

True, but Trinity did use one kid in the 9th grade on their team in 2005. Actually he is still there. 4 year starter Kande

[stinger]

no i meant lowest Allen would be held to offensively by an opposing teams defense....Longview held them to 14 pts......I bet they score more on Trinity.

I'm still willing to take that. The harder a team plays Trinity, the harder they play to defend them. It has showed several times this season. I don't feel that Allen is explosive enough and will be struggling after Trinity settles in.

[stinger]

Maybe against the backup players. But the first string will hold them fiercely. If, and I really mean IF, this is a blow-out, then the 2nd string will come out in the late 3rd or early 4th quarters. After that who knows how many points Alllen will score, maybe none.That will be thier best chance to prove you right.


True, but as in CHill's case, if they do it with their starters against Trinity's backups, it doesn't count.

[jbusch]

True, but Trinity did use one kid in the 9th grade on their team in 2005. Actually he is still there. 4 year starter Kande Isn't Norman also a 4 year starter,? the definition of Starter could get cloudy but I know he played a lot that year especially in the title game

[Tantal]

True, but Trinity did use one kid in the 9th grade on their team in 2005. Actually he is still there. 4 year starter Kande
I think Ernest Norman was on the 2005 State Title team, too. He was playing safety at the time, but his since bulked up to linebacker size.

[trojanbacker]

Bigdaddydog......thanks for all the pointers. I plan to arrive at the stadium at noon and establish a perimeter around a good portion of the visitors' side using security fencing. And, I've picked up a catheter to use during the game. I think I'm good for a half gallon before I have to empty it.

Have a good, injury-free game and everyone travel safely.

[THSBandDad]

Freshman also played tonight against Harwood. Which feeds intro trinity.

B team
51 - 0 Allen

A team
17-2 Allen


Harwood JH has about 1,000 kids total (7-9 grades). Allen's 9th grade campus has just over 1,200 students.

If I were picking teams, I'd surely go with the Allen group. Picking from about 600 boys (obviously not all going out for football) at Allen vs. picking from about 150 at Harwood, I bet I could win every time.

Harwood and Euless JH's, plus half of the kids from Central JH end up at Trinity. The kids from Hurst and Bedford JH's and the other half of Central end up at Bell HS.

By the way, good luck to both teams tonight. It's going to be a good one.

[trojanbacker]

Go ahead and revel in the big victory over one of our junior high teams. I don't think it will have much bearing on the outcome of tonight's game.

[THSBandDad]

Survival guide:

1. Get to the stadium early if you want a seat!!
1a. Get to the stadium early if you want to park within a mile of the stadium.
2. Go to the bathroom before you get to the stadium.
3. Don't drink too much during the game or you will have to go to the bathroom.
4. Women, Listen up! If you think you might have to go to the bathroom, bring some toilet paper.
5. Men, Do the women a favor and don't pee all over the seat in the porta potties.
6. Don't park in a place that has signs telling you not to park there (Blockbuster!)
7. Trinity and Allen fans! There will be lots of intermingling of fans in the seating general admission areas, be supportive of your teams, but be courtious at all times. (Allen fans,BE NICE to our guests!).
8. Trinity fans, do not go to the Sonic after the game.
9. Everyone drive safely!
10. Hug your kids! :)


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Thanks for the generous input/advice. We just hope we can fight the traffic and get there on time to be able to even find a seat at all.

Going to be a good game, so best of luck to both teams. Let's hope that both teams get out of here without any injuries tonight and maybe we will meet up in the playoffs when the game will REALLY matter.

[T's UP 93]

Harwood is a QB factory,

the lines, RB's & Defense come from Euless Junior High, Harwood lines average about 35-40 lbs:D

Harwood hasn't produced a state championship QB though. Trevor and Denarius all are EJH products!! HAKAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

[stinger]

Bigdaddydog......thanks for all the pointers. I plan to arrive at the stadium at noon and establish a perimeter around a good portion of the visitors' side using security fencing. And, I've picked up a catheter to use during the game. I think I'm good for a half gallon before I have to empty it.

Have a good, injury-free game and everyone travel safely.

Can you attach four tubes for us. Make it a 5 gallon jug.

[Eagle1986]

Go ahead and revel in the big victory over one of our junior high teams. I don't think it will have much bearing on the outcome of tonight's game.

Same goes for the JV games as well. I like our JV, but they are no comparison to our Varsity.

[BigFoot]

True, but Trinity did use one kid in the 9th grade on their team in 2005. Actually he is still there. 4 year starter Kande

They used two Norman and Kande and both are still there. I was really only referring to JV teams. Any team can use a 9th grader if they are good enough and there is a need they can fill. My point was that Trinity's freshman are not all together to present the best of all of them on one team.
My opinion is that more of them get playing time to prepare them for varsity.
If they were all together out of the 200-300 plus or minus there would only be two teams (A & B) and most of them would be on the sidelines. This way with 6 teams (2 at each jr. high feeding ET) these players get much more playing time to prepare for JV.

[T's UP 93]

EJH has an excellent 9th grade team. As far as I know as a team(7TH-8TH and 9th) they have lost only once since they have been together. They will supply the varsity some real talented kids. HAKAAAAAAAAA!

[The Warrior]

Same goes for the JV games as well. I like our JV, but they are no comparison to our Varsity.


We beat the JV, tied the JV, and got whooped 38-10 by the Varsity the next year, so don't put any eggs in that basket.

[trojanbacker]

Texas Prep Insider picks Allen over Trinity tonight:

"Euless Trinity (5-5A) at Allen (8-5A) -- This Allen Eagle team hasn't had much of the fanfare of other Allen Eagle teams - but there seems to be something a little more special about this team. They are not winning 55-30 this season - they are winning 21-7, 24-6, scores like that. I think that bodes well against a team like Trinity. Trinity got up for Cedar Hill and I think they will get up for Allen. Carter was physical with Trinity and did well against them. John Curtis was physical with Trinity and did well with them. I think that Allen will be just as physical with them and the home field advantage should make it an amazing atmosphere. I'll take Allen by a touchdown."
Matt's UPSET Pick: Allen

There you go.

[Trojanman96]

EJH has an excellent 9th grade team. As far as I know as a team(7TH-8TH and 9th) they have lost only once since they have been together. They will supply the varsity some real talented kids. HAKAAAAAAAAA!

That has definetly changed since I was in Jr High. I played for Central and never lost(7,8,9) My 8th grade year we only let 1 team score, and that was Harwood. At that time Euless was the easiest district game. My brother played against Tommy Maddox when he went to Bedford JH, and Tommy Maddox only lost 1 game throughout Jr High, and that was to Central too. Wow..the glory days..:D

[stinger]

Texas Prep Insider picks Allen over Trinity tonight:

"Euless Trinity (5-5A) at Allen (8-5A) -- This Allen Eagle team hasn't had much of the fanfare of other Allen Eagle teams - but there seems to be something a little more special about this team. They are not winning 55-30 this season - they are winning 21-7, 24-6, scores like that. I think that bodes well against a team like Trinity. Trinity got up for Cedar Hill and I think they will get up for Allen. Carter was physical with Trinity and did well against them. John Curtis was physical with Trinity and did well with them. I think that Allen will be just as physical with them and the home field advantage should make it an amazing atmosphere. I'll take Allen by a touchdown."
Matt's UPSET Pick: Allen

There you go.

If that is Matt Diggs...he would pick a roadkill to beat Trinity. He is so biased it isn't funny. Trinity handled Carter well in a "scrimmage" Trinity has handled size and speed. Yes, they get up for teams, I hope everybody does DUH! Allen just will not have enough to last four quarters against the Trinity train. Trinity starts slow usually, but gain momentum as the game progresses. I seriously doubt Matt has even been to a Trinity game. He is a Plano (one of them) fan. Talk about a homer. Allen just doesn't have the "game breakers" like trinity has, or the drive stoppers that Trinity has.

[Trojanman96]

If that is Matt Diggs...he would pick a roadkill to beat Trinity. He is so biased it isn't funny. Trinity handled Carter well in a "scrimmage" Trinity has handled size and speed. Yes, they get up for teams, I hope everybody does DUH! Allen just will not have enough to last four quarters against the Trinity train. Trinity starts slow usually, but gain momentum as the game progresses. I seriously doubt Matt has even been to a Trinity game. He is a Plano (one of them) fan. Talk about a homer. Allen just doesn't have the "game breakers" like trinity has, or the drive stoppers that Trinity has.

You going to the game tonight Stinger? Ill be there before there is any traffic on 75....oh wait....I think it was packed last night at 3 am....nm

[TrojanHorse03]

I wouldn't sell Allen short at all, this will be the best passing game we've faced in almost a year. More importantly if we don't improve on penalties and turnovers from last week, in Allen's house Diggs will be right.

[trojanbacker]

I don't think anyone in their right mind would underestimate Allen. From whate I've heard, the practices this week have been very good and very focused.

[stinger]

You going to the game tonight Stinger? Ill be there before there is any traffic on 75....oh wait....I think it was packed last night at 3 am....nm


I will be there...loud and proud....
I tried my best to wait till now to make the bold statement. I have seen Trinity a lot this year, and they are a team that one sees rarely, with those elements that make history. I will also be the first to agree that even those teams can have a night that results in defeat. I just feel, IMO, that Trinity has been schooled so well in focus and gameplan this year that is really a treat to witness. Look at all they have faced so far and came out on top. Days past, the team might let things slip away from adversity. This year, they just focus on getting back on track and in stride.

[Maxthedog]

If that is Matt Diggs...he would pick a roadkill to beat Trinity. He is so biased it isn't funny. Trinity handled Carter well in a "scrimmage" Trinity has handled size and speed. Yes, they get up for teams, I hope everybody does DUH! Allen just will not have enough to last four quarters against the Trinity train. Trinity starts slow usually, but gain momentum as the game progresses. I seriously doubt Matt has even been to a Trinity game. He is a Plano (one of them) fan. Talk about a homer. Allen just doesn't have the "game breakers" like trinity has, or the drive stoppers that Trinity has.

DAMN stringer,,,beat me to it! DITTO :)
east,,,diggs is an plano(the city of suck-FarmerFan),,,, east fan, which means he ain't happy these days.

[stinger]

DAMN stringer,,,beat me to it! DITTO :)
east,,,diggs is an plano(the city of suck-FarmerFan),,,, east fan, which means he ain't happy these days.


Thanx for the support. I was kinda sure he was a Plano East fan. I really get sick reading his ultra-biased posts. Far as I'm concerned, he won't get very happy this year. Does Plano have plans for him? :D