How Good Is Madison?

[longhorn3]

If my memory serves me correct. N.B 's only loss has come to Madison? O'conners only loss came to Madison? Tivy's only loss came to Madison? if this is correct that is a big positive for Madison Football. Tells us that despite any polls not having us in the State top 25 that Madison football is pretty dang good so far. I think as long as they stay "healthy" and thats a big if, their Defense continues to get better and lord only knows if they can get a kicking game or not, Madison has a chance to go far this year. Hopefully when they meet up with SV they will only have one loss at that point and we should see a great game. I also believe that Roosy's only loss came to Tivy as well so even means more beating a tough Tivy team. Oh boy am i starting to get a little excited about them Madison Mavericks..not counting my chickens to early though.:

[uhsfilmcrew]

we'd probably meet you in the third round;)before you get to play SV.

[longhorn3]

we'd probably meet you in the third round;)before you get to play SV.

I was referring to playing SV in district play..which is about a month away

[tjw]

If my memory serves me correct. N.B 's only loss has come to Madison? O'conners only loss came to Madison? Tivy's only loss came to Madison? if this is correct that is a big positive for Madison Football. Tells us that despite any polls not having us in the State top 25 that Madison football is pretty dang good so far. I think as long as they stay "healthy" and thats a big if, their Defense continues to get better and lord only knows if they can get a kicking game or not, Madison has a chance to go far this year. Hopefully when they meet up with SV they will only have one loss at that point and we should see a great game. I also believe that Roosy's only loss came to Tivy as well so even means more beating a tough Tivy team. Oh boy am i starting to get a little excited about them Madison Mavericks..not counting my chickens to early though.:

They looked pretty good on TV but do have to say that early in 3rd quarter they looked tired? Hands on hips and deep breathing...against a really good team that can lead to a loss.

[saMavsFan]

They looked pretty good on TV but do have to say that early in 3rd quarter they looked tired? Hands on hips and deep breathing...against a really good team that can lead to a loss.

Looked like both teams were dragging a bit at this point. Hot night out there and they were running in three inch grass not turf...don't know how many of the more successful 5a teams in Texas still play on grass. In any case, you're right. Took big plays on both sides of the ball to get these teams fired up and moving again. Just one of those nights.

[BandidoNB]

Looked like both teams were dragging a bit at this point. Hot night out there and they were running in three inch grass not turf...don't know how many of the more successful 5a teams in Texas still play on grass. In any case, you're right. Took big plays on both sides of the ball to get these teams fired up and moving again. Just one of those nights.

Sounds like grass is a disadvantage; either way, NBISD had originally planned to install artifical turf in anticipation to its re-entry into Class 5A, but the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality stopped the school district right on its tracks, due to the stadium being over the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. NBISD requested a variance to still build it over the summer, but it was obviously denied. Oh well, the grass dont look beat up.... yet. :rolleyes:

[saMavsFan]

Sounds like grass is a disadvantage; either way, NBISD has originally planned to install artifical turf in anticipation to its re-entry into Class 5A, but the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality stopped the school district right on its tracks, due to the stadium being over the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. NBISD requested a variance to still build it over the summer, but it was obviously denied. Oh well, the grass dont look beat up.. yet. :rolleyes:

I never would have thought of that. There is a permiable ground obligation that every campus has to fill (every structure built in San Antonio for that matter). Wouldn't have thought that a football field's worth of turf would make much difference, but what can you do. With a little upkeep it shouldn't get too sloppy.

[saMavsFan]

Alright, I've had two posts about grass in a "How good is Madison" thread.

As I said before, I think that there is great potential in this Madison team. We've got a stellar offense that can beat teams with the pass or the run. If they can carry most of the load for a while, while the defense strengthens and gels, there is a good chance we'll make another deep run in the playoffs this year. The defense is already showing vast improvements and I'm sure they'll be up to varsity speed in no time. Tough to do though in a district as strong as 265a.

Special teams...I got nothing. We've been through three different kickers in as many weeks. We rotate guys in and out of the kick coverage squads, which might explain why teams keep getting huge returns on us. We've missed at least three PAT's and had a field goal blocked. While this might go overlooked in games where our offense is performing well, it could hamstring us in the end.

Our new coaches seem to be fitting in quite well. Mangold isn't really new to Madison, but he's doing a fine job as the OC.

[maverick2533]

Well if Reagan can beat SV, I'm sure Madison has a fairly good chance to win district. But again that Madison defense, in my opinion,isnt up to par. They are a bit young and majority are undersized but they make the stop when it counts. We are getting by now, but our D needs to start picking it up and be more aggressive.

[saMavsFan]

Well if Reagan can beat SV, I'm sure Madison has a fairly good chance to win district. But again that Madison defense, in my opinion,isnt up to par. They are a bit young and majority are undersized but they make the stop when it counts. We are getting by now, but our D needs to start picking it up and be more aggressive.

Over half the starting defense are either juniors or sophomores (two linemen, two linebackers, and two DBs). That makes for great potential these coming years. Its tough to make the leap, especially for guys who played J.V., and yes, freshman ball last year. But, I've seen some good things from these young guys. Troy Lara's Pick6 against NB, Tommy Saunders laying the wood on nearly every play, and Chris Catlin is a Beast! This defense is young and inexperienced...but very talented. These past few games will have done them good. I look for the next game against Johnson to be a big confidence builder and a chance to shake loose some of the jitters.

[okt0ber]

Sounds like grass is a disadvantage; either way, NBISD had originally planned to install artifical turf in anticipation to its re-entry into Class 5A, but the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality stopped the school district right on its tracks, due to the stadium being over the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. NBISD requested a variance to still build it over the summer, but it was obviously denied. Oh well, the grass dont look beat up.... yet. :rolleyes:

Advantage for NB.... they should be better conditioned when not playing on their grass :D

[KT2000]

I was able to watch the Madison game, and I thought both teams looked OK. I think they will both be two of the better playoff teams in Region 4, but I certainly wouldn't label either one a state contender right now. I still think Madison is a year away from being REALLY good like last year pre-injury.

Green looks like a very talented runner, but I noticed just about everything went for the corners. Like most talented young runners, he wants to take everything around the edge and cut back. Better defenses are going to contain him, so Gutierrez will be very important down the road.

[saMavsFan]

I was able to watch the Madison game, and I thought both teams looked OK. I think they will both be two of the better playoff teams in Region 4, but I certainly wouldn't label either one a state contender right now. I still think Madison is a year away from being REALLY good like last year pre-injury.

Green looks like a very talented runner, but I noticed just about everything went for the corners. Like most talented young runners, he wants to take everything around the edge and cut back. Better defenses are going to contain him, so Gutierrez will be very important down the road.

I'd have to agree with that. NB had a very good containment defense. Now, are all the defenses Madison will face going to be that good at getting to the ball...probably not. But, if we hope to go on a deep run in the playoffs this year, there will be defenses just as good and just as ready to contain the run as NB was. Thank God Leo's got a cannon for an arm and some good receivers to throw it to. Lots of improvement still needed.

[Bottomline]

Sounds like grass is a disadvantage; either way, NBISD had originally planned to install artifical turf in anticipation to its re-entry into Class 5A, but the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality stopped the school district right on its tracks, due to the stadium being over the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone. NBISD requested a variance to still build it over the summer, but it was obviously denied. Oh well, the grass dont look beat up.... yet. :rolleyes:


Bandido, that field is a HUGE home field advantage for NB. Looks like someone forgot to cut the grass before that cricial game last thursday :rolleyes:. I was talking to a freind before the game and he noted that the grass was pretty thick. It not only affected the Mav's but as you've noted, the NB players were also breathing hard during the game. It slowed down the Mav's and almost worked but yes, the grass almost came up to my ankle. That field along with the NB tough play will win some games for the home team. NB by 3 ...

[saMavsFan]

Well if Reagan can beat SV, I'm sure Madison has a fairly good chance to win district. But again that Madison defense, in my opinion,isnt up to par. They are a bit young and majority are undersized but they make the stop when it counts. We are getting by now, but our D needs to start picking it up and be more aggressive.

Hopefully this will develop sooner, rather than later. This isn't a district that allows for much wiggle room when trying to gain experience on either end of the ball. Troy Lara's Pick6 was a nice play agains NB and the defense is hitting hard all around. That's a good start, but like you said, we still need work.

[atwelljroc]

Did not get to watch, but with SV losing to Reagan...Madison has set themselves up as the team to beat in 26-5a...congrats and good luck the rest of the season...

[RedRage00]

Don't sleep on Reagan!

[saMavsFan]

Don't sleep on Reagan!

Or Mac, SV, NB, or Roosevelt. I love that Madison is at the top of 12's top 12 and the Express News rankings, but it's way too early to tell what will go on with this district.

[MADMAVMOM]

I wish everyone would lighten up on the 'young' Madison defense. They have played some great offensive teams, and they've also been on the field a lot!! Three of the youngsters are returning starters, and playmakers -- including Kris Catlin and Keith Kaut -- the rest of the team has speed -- Andrew Green, Sean Katz, Troy Lara -- and lots of strength at the line. And let's not overlook the three QB sacks vs New Braunfels by DE Tyler James. The guys on the team who played JV together last year were 10-0 for the season.

Good luck to everyone this weekend!

[saMavsFan]

I wish everyone would lighten up on the 'young' Madison defense. They have played some great offensive teams, and they've also been on the field a lot!! Three of the youngsters are returning starters, and playmakers -- including Kris Catlin and Keith Kaut -- the rest of the team has speed -- Andrew Green, Sean Katz, Troy Lara -- and lots of strength at the line. And let's not overlook the three QB sacks vs New Braunfels by DE Tyler James. The guys on the team who played JV together last year were 10-0 for the season.

Good luck to everyone this weekend!

Welcome to the board MADMAVMOM! And you're right. Credit must be given where credit is due. O'Connor had a very good offensive structure to start the game, Kerville Tivy has one of the most explosive spread offenses in the state, and NB has an underrated and highly effective modified spread of their own.

I'm not sure what the time of posession numbers have been, but I do know that our defense isn't helped when our offense scores in less that a minute. :eek: I'm not wishing away any of our touchdowns, believe me.:D But this is a young D unit and they've been tossed into the deep end of the pool only to climb out and be tossed back in 30 seconds later. This week will be a very good week to help our defense solidify itself as a competitive unit in 265a.

[Bottomline]

Over half the starting defense are either juniors or sophomores (two linemen, two linebackers, and two DBs). That makes for great potential these coming years. Its tough to make the leap, especially for guys who played J.V., and yes, freshman ball last year. But, I've seen some good things from these young guys. Troy Lara's Pick6 against NB, Tommy Saunders laying the wood on nearly every play, and Chris Catlin is a Beast! This defense is young and inexperienced...but very talented. These past few games will have done them good. I look for the next game against Johnson to be a big confidence builder and a chance to shake loose some of the jitters.

There is only one sophmore on defense amd yes, most starters will be returning next season. All the talk about the defense being weak but there are two SOLID D-1 prospects on that unit. Green's mailbox is litered with D-1 teams seeking his ervices and Catlin only a JR. is looking like he may have a choice as many have already contacted him. The younger guys are playing really well so they too may also be on someones radar.

[Bottomline]

Madisons D is coming along just fine and should do well down the stretch ... NB, SV and Reagans D seems to be just ahead of their respected offenses ... Tough games ahead for what seems to be going down to the wire ... Dist. Champ may end up with 1-2 loses ?

[d-train]

If my memory serves me correct. N.B 's only loss has come to Madison? O'conners only loss came to Madison? Tivy's only loss came to Madison? if this is correct that is a big positive for Madison Football. Tells us that despite any polls not having us in the State top 25 that Madison football is pretty dang good so far. I think as long as they stay "healthy" and thats a big if, their Defense continues to get better and lord only knows if they can get a kicking game or not, Madison has a chance to go far this year. Hopefully when they meet up with SV they will only have one loss at that point and we should see a great game. I also believe that Roosy's only loss came to Tivy as well so even means more beating a tough Tivy team. Oh boy am i starting to get a little excited about them Madison Mavericks..not counting my chickens to early though.:
You have to beat Judson and Smithson Valley to get ranked. O'Connor gets no statewide respect and neither does Madison cause they have won nada, nor have they played for nada as of yet.

[MADMAVMOM]

You have to beat Judson and Smithson Valley to get ranked. O'Connor gets no statewide respect and neither does Madison cause they have won nada, nor have they played for nada as of yet.

Uh, check this out:
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08StatewideTop25_03.htm (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08StatewideTop25_03.htm)

I don't see Judson or SV in the top 25, and we haven't even played them yet -- let me be POSITIVE and correct that -- we haven't even beaten them yet!! The only San Antonio team on the list is Madison at #23.

[CKE]

Uh, check this out:
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08StatewideTop25_03.htm (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08StatewideTop25_03.htm)

I don't see Judson or SV in the top 25, and we haven't even played them yet -- let me be POSITIVE and correct that -- we haven't even beaten them yet!! The only San Antonio team on the list is Madison at #23.

Which is not much to brag about since they had Judson at number 3 at one time and SV at 9.

[d-train]

Uh, check this out:
http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08StatewideTop25_03.htm (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/08StatewideTop25_03.htm)

I don't see Judson or SV in the top 25, and we haven't even played them yet -- let me be POSITIVE and correct that -- we haven't even beaten them yet!! The only San Antonio team on the list is Madison at #23.
AP Rankings!

[longhorn3]

So now I ask the same question...How good is Madison? I am not sure but I do think they are the best in this area...I do think SV will give them a game but the bottom line is they will go undefeated in district and lose in the 3 or 4 th round because a good team will expose their weakness and thats pass defense...nobody in 265a can expose that anymore so they should do well the rest of the way...not licking my chops just yet but a district title will be good to look at

[uhsfilmcrew]

the fact is that madison is a state finalist, despite the fact that they dont play judson, but already beat new braunfels. Especially with Soph stand out Aaron Green.

[CKE]

the fact is that madison is a state finalist, despite the fact that they dont play judson, but already beat new braunfels. Especially with Soph stand out Aaron Green.
That does not make sense Madison would have to beat Judson to be state finalist..they will both be division 1

[uhsfilmcrew]

The fact is that by the time judson and madison meet, madison will be alot more talented than judson cause of the 265. judson will come out of a week district 27. thats why judson would dominate in the playoffs cause they would come out of a district full of potential.

[shooter]

That does not make sense Madison would have to beat Judson to be state finalist..they will both be division 1

Unless someone else beats Judson first.

[shooter]

The fact is that by the time judson and madison meet, madison will be alot more talented than judson cause of the 265. judson will come out of a week district 27. thats why judson would dominate in the playoffs cause they would come out of a district full of potential.

Not going to float around here with that logic.

When SV came up to 5A they were put into a week district and everyone said it would hurt them come playoff time. Everyone said their players would not know how to play a close game or how the Rangers copuld not play for 4 quarters because all of their starters were resting in the second half of district games.

SV played in the state final game that year if i'm not mistaken..

[saMavsFan]

Unless someone else beats Judson first.

This is the same thing I was thinking. We've got some really good teams in 265 that could match up against Judson in the 2nd round. Could be Mac, Roosevelt, or SV if things get really odd. Hell, it could be Madison. No shot to Judson bc I know they'll get better as the year progresses. But from what I've seen so far, any of those teams could take Judson right now. SV already has.

[wizenbud]

So now I ask the same question...How good is Madison? I am not sure but I do think they are the best in this area...I do think SV will give them a game but the bottom line is they will go undefeated in district and lose in the 3 or 4 th round because a good team will expose their weakness and thats pass defense...nobody in 265a can expose that anymore so they should do well the rest of the way...not licking my chops just yet but a district title will be good to look at

I beg to differ.

TR has a sweet passing game. TR is the second best Offense in 26-5A, balanced. Near 800 yds passing and a little over 800 yds rushing in 4 games.
10 passing TD's and no INT's, 10 rushing TD's. Only given up 1 turnover in 4 games. Averages over 400 yds per game. Not to mention, a back by the name of B. Armstrong. Who is finally healthy after a pre-season foot injury.
6 different recievers have caught TD passes, there is another offensive juggernaut in the district. Maybe not Madison good, but a nice second for sure.

[saMavsFan]

I beg to differ.

TR has a sweet passing game. TR is the second best Offense in 26-5A, balanced. Near 800 yds passing and a little over 800 yds rushing in 4 games.
10 passing TD's and no INT's, 10 rushing TD's. Only given up 1 turnover in 4 games. Averages over 400 yds per game. Not to mention, a back by the name of B. Armstrong. Who is finally healthy after a pre-season foot injury.
6 different recievers have caught TD passes, there is another offensive juggernaut in the district. Maybe not Madison good, but a nice second for sure.

Yep, TR has a fantastic, disciplined offense this year. No doubt about it. I think what he meant was, though we still have to play TR, Reagan, and SV, no one can expose Madison with a passing game any more than Kerville Tivy or Mac already has. It's not that TR doesn't have a good passing game. They do. Just won't matter that much.

[wizenbud]

Yep, TR has a fantastic, disciplined offense this year. No doubt about it. I think what he meant was, though we still have to play TR, Reagan, and SV, no one can expose Madison with a passing game any more than Kerville Tivy or Mac already has. It's not that TR doesn't have a good passing game. They do. Just won't matter that much.

Too bad, I agree totally........ Madison has too much offense for TR.

Madison by 14

49-35, somewhere around there.

[TexasRed6x]

If they play against a good fast defense and the other team has a ball control offense it is over. Now that being said there is only a few teams in this city that fits that bill.

[Fleeman93]

New Braunfels played Madison close and if it weren't for some big mistakes might of had enough to win the game. SV is obviously much better than NB. My logic says that SV is and will be better than Madison when it is all said and done.

[saMavsFan]

New Braunfels played Madison close and if it weren't for some big mistakes might of had enough to win the game. SV is obviously much better than NB. My logic says that SV is and will be better than Madison when it is all said and done.

I think that NB's offense was tailor made to play against Madison's defense. Mobile QB and a half decent spread. Don't know if SV fits that bill, but they are better at defending that type of offense than Madison is. Two weeks away, so we'll just have to see. I think Madison's high-powered offense is going to be too much for region 4 this year.

[saMavsFan]

If they play against a good fast defense and the other team has a ball control offense it is over. Now that being said there is only a few teams in this city that fits that bill.

Judson?? We won't have to play P'ville in Region 4, so find another team besides Judson. NB did quite well, but that's past us.

[CKE]

I think that NB's offense was tailor made to play against Madison's defense. Mobile QB and a half decent spread. Don't know if SV fits that bill, but they are better at defending that type of offense than Madison is. Two weeks away, so we'll just have to see. I think Madison's high-powered offense is going to be too much for region 4 this year.

Jacob brown is more mobile than the Nb QB but NB called a lot more QB draw plays that exposed Madison than Coach hill will.

[longhorn3]

If they play against a good fast defense and the other team has a ball control offense it is over. Now that being said there is only a few teams in this city that fits that bill.

Please tell me these teams that you feel in the city can stop them?

[longhorn3]

New Braunfels played Madison close and if it weren't for some big mistakes might of had enough to win the game. SV is obviously much better than NB. My logic says that SV is and will be better than Madison when it is all said and done.

You know fleeman this might just be the first time you have been wrong in a while. All credit to SV but they are not at the same level as madison this year...remember the important words "this Year" Too much talent on Madison side of the ball this year. Offensively they have no weekness. Defensively they can be exposed thru the passing game or a very mobile qb. Im fairly sure that we wont' being seeing a Tivy type qb again this season. With this being said and done, they won't be going to the state finals this year with the special teams being so bad and the defense with a big hole in it..but they sure are fun to watch play..lots of action.

[Fleeman93]

You know fleeman this might just be the first time you have been wrong in a while. All credit to SV but they are not at the same level as madison this year...remember the important words "this Year" Too much talent on Madison side of the ball this year. Offensively they have no weekness. Defensively they can be exposed thru the passing game or a very mobile qb. Im fairly sure that we wont' being seeing a Tivy type qb again this season. With this being said and done, they won't be going to the state finals this year with the special teams being so bad and the defense with a big hole in it..but they sure are fun to watch play..lots of action.


At this point I will take SV's coaching over Madison's talent. NB didn't have either the talent or coaching to play with Madison although they still did. SV is much better than NB which you can tell by the score of that game. NB gave Madison all they could handle so I just think SV can handle Madison. It is just an opinion so I don't really think it can be right or wrong but it certainly is unbiased.

[longhorn3]

At this point I will take SV's coaching over Madison's talent. NB didn't have either the talent or coaching to play with Madison although they still did. SV is much better than NB which you can tell by the score of that game. NB gave Madison all they could handle so I just think SV can handle Madison. It is just an opinion so I don't really think it can be right or wrong but it certainly is unbiased.

Well thank god it's opinion cause if it was a preview of who you are picking i will be catching you very soon in the standings...Are you aware that Madison jv last year beat up Sv jv? matter of fact Madison jv was undefeated and really untested most of the year...these boys have now moved up to varsity and your seeing what we all saw last year in jv...dominance...your taking the one common opponent "NB"..first i do believe that we played in N.B. on the road on natural grass with a hard time to stop a mobile qb. Sv defends that much better then madison..if sv couldnt stop madison last year then how are they going to stop them this season with in my opinion is a lesser talented teamt then they had last year....Madison is better this year then last and sv is worst then last year...so game on and watch Madison win by 10 points...it will be a close game most of the way but second half its on like donkey kong. Also is this the same coaching staff that cost SV the playoff game last year? Hill might be able to coach some but when it comes to making good decisions late in games i have to question his calls...just my opinion though

[CKE]

Well thank god it's opinion cause if it was a preview of who you are picking i will be catching you very soon in the standings...Are you aware that Madison jv last year beat up Sv jv? matter of fact Madison jv was undefeated and really untested most of the year...these boys have now moved up to varsity and your seeing what we all saw last year in jv...dominance...your taking the one common opponent "NB"..first i do believe that we played in N.B. on the road on natural grass with a hard time to stop a mobile qb. Sv defends that much better then madison..if sv couldnt stop madison last year then how are they going to stop them this season with in my opinion is a lesser talented teamt then they had last year....Madison is better this year then last and sv is worst then last year...so game on and watch Madison win by 10 points...it will be a close game most of the way but second half its on like donkey kong. Also is this the same coaching staff that cost SV the playoff game last year? Hill might be able to coach some but when it comes to making good decisions late in games i have to question his calls...just my opinion though

Your 2 arguments where what happened on JV and what happened last year...when in the post right before this you make sure to point out the words this year...you see why I have a field day with you.;)

[BandidoNB]

Your 2 arguments where what happened on JV and what happened last year...when in the post right before this you make sure to point out the words this year...you see why I have a field day with you.;)

Based on what I saw I think I would take SV over Madison in a matchup; just because Madison beat up SV's JV doesnt necessarily mean that Madison will win; Some coaches maybe inclined to move up better players sooner at some schools than others. I cant remember the last time that NB JV beat NB Canyon JV yet NB usually wins the varsity matchup under the Friday Night Lights. Thats just a random example.

[longhorn3]

Your 2 arguments where what happened on JV and what happened last year...when in the post right before this you make sure to point out the words this year...you see why I have a field day with you.;)

what a jerk, always twisting words and stuff instead of getting the point of the statement....This years varisty team from madison is better then SV varisty team this year...most of this boys played jv last year and madison won that game...This year Madison is better then SV...what is your point other then being a nuisance????

[CKE]

what a jerk, always twisting words and stuff instead of getting the point of the statement....This years varisty team from madison is better then SV varisty team this year...most of this boys played jv last year and madison won that game...This year Madison is better then SV...what is your point other then being a nuisance????

I didn't twist anything...you just do a good job at making yourself look silly:rolleyes:

[longhorn3]

Based on what I saw I think I would take SV over Madison in a matchup; just because Madison beat up SV's JV doesnt necessarily mean that Madison will win; Some coaches maybe inclined to move up better players sooner at some schools than others. I cant remember the last time that NB JV beat NB Canyon JV yet NB usually wins the varsity matchup under the Friday Night Lights. Thats just a random example.

I know a couple of boys on the unicorn team and they told me that madison was better then sv...that they are faster, stronger and better athletes..they shot themselves in the foot against sv...but thats because sv forces you to make bad decisions...Im just saying what some of the n.b. players said....i wasnt on the field but from what i saw n.b. receivers got popped many a times

[longhorn3]

I didn't twist anything...you just do a good job at making yourself look silly:rolleyes:

Whatever! your the one looking stupid here with your twisting of words..the general point of the statement was that madison is better then sv and that just kills you...get over it your going to be losing to madison for many years to come....no big deal move on and quit being so sensitive to everything

[CKE]

Whatever! your the one looking stupid here with your twisting of words..the general point of the statement was that madison is better then sv and that just kills you...get over it your going to be losing to madison for many years to come....no big deal move on and quit being so sensitive to everything

Whatever you have to say to make you sleep at night Madison is going have to wait to not be the bridesmaid of SV for at least 3 more games ;) :D

[Fleeman93]

All just opinions. I know what I saw with my own eyes and that is what I am going with as far as SV being better than Madison. SV made BN look like a good average team and Madison struggles with NB. Yes it is only one common opponent but you don't have any other common opponent that is as good as NB.

[CKE]

All just opinions. I know what I saw with my own eyes and that is what I am going with as far as SV being better than Madison. SV made BN look like a good average team and Madison struggles with NB. Yes it is only one common opponent but you don't have any other common opponent that is as good as NB.
You mean 2 people from diff schools other than SV and Madison think SV is better :eek:

Longhorn just might blow a gasket :D

[saMavsFan]

Whatever you have to say to make you sleep at night Madison is going have to wait to not be the bridesmaid of SV for at least 3 more games ;) :D

if by that you mean that the district won't be decided by the Mad/SV game, I completely agree with you. I do think Madison will win that game, but the district race will be far from over.

I haven't seen Brown play yet, but it will have to wait until next week. I'll be going to the Mac/SV game or the Roosevelt/Reagan game. Haven't decided yet.

[longhorn3]

Barring any injuries give Madison the district and let's get to the playoffs. Not another team in 265a that will beat em..bold statement, this I know..however I feel that strongly that Madison is just that good this year...and the rest of the district is not as strong as they have been..so with those facts out there...district is over...
1. Madison
2. Reagan
3. Roosy
4. S.V

what a change of events this is:::

[saMavsFan]

I'm still hesitant about Roosevelt. I believe they'll be fighting off Mac and NB for the 4th spot. This week will tell the tale though. A lot of season left to be played, but it will be their first opponent that's even half way decent since they lost to Tivy.

[bobcat83]

what a jerk, always twisting words and stuff instead of getting the point of the statement....This years varisty team from madison is better then SV varisty team this year...most of this boys played jv last year and madison won that game...This year Madison is better then SV...what is your point other then being a nuisance????

Obviously a lack of knowledge......all but one SV starter was on Varsity last year -those kids didn't play against Madison's JV.They were back ups or part time players. I don't think Madison is as good as last year because of their defense.With the athletes they have I am suprised at the yards they give up.

[STB24]

You mean 2 people from diff schools other than SV and Madison think SV is better :eek:

Longhorn just might blow a gasket :D

make that 3! i think the game will come down to coaching and SV has the edge over madison in that department. longhorn even said himself "sv forces you to make bad decisions." you think thats by accident?! coaching has a lot to do with that. so i believe madison will make a few bad decisions causing them to lose the game.

[chainsaw83]

Barring any injuries give Madison the district and let's get to the playoffs. Not another team in 265a that will beat em..bold statement, this I know..however I feel that strongly that Madison is just that good this year...and the rest of the district is not as strong as they have been..so with those facts out there...district is over...
1. Madison
2. Reagan
3. Roosy
4. S.V

what a change of events this is:::

Wow. Don't you read? Everyone knows that SV is better than Madison!! Seriously, you really do make yourself look silly... ESPECIALLY ranking Madison #1. Good grief. All these guys are here telling you that Madison really isn't THAT good... AND, it's not like those guys have a long history of disliking Madison either. :rolleyes: At the very MOST Madison should be ranked 3rd because, since they're not better than SV, and since SV got beat by Reagan, by default, Madison should be ranked 3rd. It's pretty darn simple.

Hell, i'll be shocked if Madison makes the playoffs at all. There's no way they beat SV or Reagan... and ever since this spring it's been obvious that Roosevelt is going to take this district by storm. I know you're a Madison homer and all, but good lord, figure your crap out!!!!

[CKE]

Wow. Don't you read? Everyone knows that SV is better than Madison!! Seriously, you really do make yourself look silly... ESPECIALLY ranking Madison #1. Good grief. All these guys are here telling you that Madison really isn't THAT good... AND, it's not like those guys have a long history of disliking Madison either. :rolleyes: At the very MOST Madison should be ranked 3rd because, since they're not better than SV, and since SV got beat by Reagan, by default, Madison should be ranked 3rd. It's pretty darn simple.

Hell, i'll be shocked if Madison makes the playoffs at all. There's no way they beat SV or Reagan... and ever since this spring it's been obvious that Roosevelt is going to take this district by storm. I know you're a Madison homer and all, but good lord, figure your crap out!!!!
You finally see the light :notworthy

[chainsaw83]

You finally see the light :notworthy

yeah, I mean, like i said, how could you think SV is worse than Madison? It's not like SV lost a game or anything.

[uhsfilmcrew]

hey 265 fans, hows churchill are they rebuilding? hows lee doing?

[Fleeman93]

Let me ask you Madison fans this question, who is Madison's best win to this point in the season?

[bobcat83]

[QUOTE=chainsaw83;902155]Wow. Don't you read? Everyone knows that SV is better than Madison!! Seriously, you really do make yourself look silly... ESPECIALLY ranking Madison #1. Good grief. All these guys are here telling you that Madison really isn't THAT good... AND, it's not like those guys have a long history of disliking Madison either. :rolleyes: At the very MOST Madison should be ranked 3rd because, since they're not better than SV, and since SV got beat by Reagan, by default, Madison should be ranked 3rd. It's pretty darn simple.

Hell, i'll be shocked if Madison makes the playoffs at all. There's no way they beat SV or Reagan... and ever since this spring it's been obvious that Roosevelt is going to take this district by storm. I know you're a Madison homer and all, but good lord, figure your crap out!!!![/Q

I don't think anyone from SV has said they are better than Madison or that they will beat them.I have said I don't think Madison is as good as last year but also agree SV isn't either. But since Longhorn3 has annointed them already....
They are the returning district champs andhave a team good enough to defend that title.Until someone takes it away they should be number one.But as an opposing fan -if they have Longhorns attitude about themselves I guarantee someone in this district will beat them.

[chainsaw83]

Let me ask you Madison fans this question, who is Madison's best win to this point in the season?


Johnson

[Fleeman93]

Johnson


Ok, I guess that begs the question why Johnson?

[chainsaw83]

seriously, Tivy and NB are just 4A programs. O'Connor is a bad team in a bad district. their winning teams aren't REALLY as good as their records ever show. Mac is awful and always will be. Johnson is an up and coming program. They are by far the best team Madison has played to this point.

I'm just waiting for Madison to play a team worth being labeled a winning team or hell, even a 5A program. Madison really isn't worth a sh!#. They'll get run out of this district

[chainsaw83]

All you have to do is go back and find all the threads that all these guys posted reason after reason, week after week why Madison wouldn't even beat the teams they have. It's obvious, at least to me that Madison is definitely going to lose to SV. They're lucky to have even won one game at this point in the season.

[bobcat83]

All you have to do is go back and find all the threads that all these guys posted reason after reason, week after week why Madison wouldn't even beat the teams they have. It's obvious, at least to me that Madison is definitely going to lose to SV. They're lucky to have even won one game at this point in the season.

We ought to read some of your posts!
Game 1-I thought Madison would kill O'Connor-didnt happen
Game 2-based on game 1 and Tivy's performance against TR a of us said do not understimate Tivy's offense regardless of being 4A or not.Didn't pick Tivy just basically said respect them-look whahappened.
Game 3-NB-again not much respect from Madison posters-Their defense has never faced a RB like Green-but they had in their last playoff game the year before.The kid from Oregan State that torched USC.NB held their own.
Mac's defense isnt as good as NB,Reagan,SV or probably TR by the time Madison plays them.

Their best win was against New Braunfels. They got big plays from the special teams and defense.Green went from 9 td's to zero and they still won.
Oh and your Johnson may get their 2nd win against Churchill.Maybe not -but Churchill is on their 5th and 6th QB this year due to injuries.

[chainsaw83]

We ought to read some of your threads and question some of your logic!
Game 1-I thought Madison would kill O'Connor-didnt happen
Game 2-based on game 1 and Tivy's performance against TR a of us said do not understimate Tivy's offense regardless of being 4A or not.Didn't pick Tivy just basically said respect them-look whahappened.
Game 3-NB-again not much respect from Madison posters-Their defense has never faced a RB like Green-but they had in their last playoff game the year before.The kid from Oregan State that torched USC.NB held their own.
Mac's defense isnt as good as NB,Reagan,SV or probably TR by the time Madison plays them.

Their best win was against New Braunfels. They got big plays from the special teams and defense.Green went from 9 td's to zero and they still won.
Oh and your Johnson may get their 2nd win against Churchill.Maybe not -but Churchill is on their 5th and 6th QB this year due to injuries.

Hey, I'm with ya... You're absolutely right.... Madison sucks.

[chainsaw83]

I have no doubt that if Madison does happen to beat SV or Reagan or TR, that it will be only because of mistakes by those teams. There's no way Madison should even be on the same field with those teams.

Madison had HORRIBLE luck last year with injuries and such, but this year, it's all coming back to them in spades!!! They've been real lucky thus far.

[TexasRed6x]

Please tell me these teams that you feel in the city can stop them?

I just don't know, what division will they go and who else will be their there from other districts.

If they go Div 1 Bowie, Warren, Clark

If they go Div 2 SV, Roosy, PV, Westlake, OC

Now this is just some names and don't go all postal "hoss" again this is just of a couple of teams that have it in them to play Madison a good game.

[bobcat83]

Hey, I'm with ya... You're absolutely right.... Madison sucks.

Your just being an a..To each is own.

[uhsfilmcrew]

I just don't know, what division will they go and who else will be their there from other districts.

If they go Div 1 Bowie, Warren, Clark

If they go Div 2 SV, Roosy, PV, Westlake, OC

Now this is just some names and don't go all postal "hoss" again this is just of a couple of teams that have it in them to play Madison a good game.

They will go to D1 bcause of high enrollment.

[bobcat83]

I just don't know, what division will they go and who else will be their there from other districts.

If they go Div 1 Bowie, Warren, Clark

If they go Div 2 SV, Roosy, PV, Westlake, OC

Now this is just some names and don't go all postal "hoss" again this is just of a couple of teams that have it in them to play Madison a good game.

If Madison,SV,NB and Reagan make the playoffs then Madison and SV will go
D1.
If TR or Mac make it it will push SV to D2.Reagan and NB's enrollment is slightly less than SV's this year.

[uhsfilmcrew]

this forum is true. if you really think of it, the 265 isnt as athletic as it was before. now with judson out, madison will go clearly into the playoffs but with not much intensity as it did before. which brings to the question will they lose in the first, second or third round. i truly respect the program and say that they are going to the state championship. Unless if they clash with 295 powerhouse Laredo United, also known as the "Orange Bowl". Remember the 295 is bringing up much more competenency than the 265. With much more talent, and close scores. Turn the 6 in 265 upside down, and you'll get 295. when we get to the playoffs it will be a clash in the third round as both districts will meet. trust me not the valley, already seeing there games. We have far more competency level than the rest of the valley schools.

[CKE]

I just don't know, what division will they go and who else will be their there from other districts.

If they go Div 1 Bowie, Warren, Clark

If they go Div 2 SV, Roosy, PV, Westlake, OC

Now this is just some names and don't go all postal "hoss" again this is just of a couple of teams that have it in them to play Madison a good game.

Yeah good luck with that one.Longhorn and chainsaw feel that if no one is giving Madison the "best football team in the world" title then your just plain crazy....very funny...I have a lot of fun with it.:D

[chainsaw83]

Your just being an a..To each is own.

what? am i wrong? Tell you thing SV will lose to Madison. It's more than obvious that the ONLY way Madison could even stay in a game with SV is if SV turns the ball over 6 or more times. That's it. Smithson Valley is BY FAR a more superior team.

scoring 7 against the juggernaut that is Reagan really left no doubt that Madison has no chance.

Head and shoulders guys.... SV is HEAD and SHOULDERS better than Madison. Really, no comparison.

[chainsaw83]

this forum is true. if you really think of it, the 265 isnt as athletic as it was before. now with judson out, madison will go clearly into the playoffs but with not much intensity as it did before. which brings to the question will they lose in the first, second or third round. i truly respect the program and say that they are going to the state championship. Unless if they clash with 295 powerhouse Laredo United, also known as the "Orange Bowl". Remember the 295 is bringing up much more competenency than the 265. With much more talent, and close scores. Turn the 6 in 265 upside down, and you'll get 295. when we get to the playoffs it will be a clash in the third round as both districts will meet. trust me not the valley, already seeing there games. We have far more competency level than the rest of the valley schools.

wtf are you talking about?

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1 : the quality or state of being mentally competent

So, you're saying that the valley is more competent than schools in the 26th district of 5A? Or, are you proving your INCOMPETENCE by trying to say that there is more COMPETITION in the 29th district compared to the 26th?

Either way, you're wrong and you should stop posting before the I.Q. of this entire forum takes a dive.

Thank you.

[bobcat83]

[QUOTE=chainsaw83;902229]Hey, I'm with ya... You're absolutely right.... Madison sucks.[/QUOT

One might question your competency with your "Madison sucks" posts.It will be really funny if SV were to actually play the perfect game and beat Madison in 2 weeks or if Madison were to "self destruct ".But I am sure Longhorn will let us know next weekend after he watches SV/Mac. Can't wait for his preview.Maybe you can join him out on 46 for the game.I'm sure we can arrange some tickets for you.

[chainsaw83]

[QUOTE=chainsaw83;902229]Hey, I'm with ya... You're absolutely right.... Madison sucks.[/QUOT

One might question your competency with your "Madison sucks" posts.It will be really funny if SV were to actually play the perfect game and beat Madison in 2 weeks or if Madison were to "self destruct ".But I am sure Longhorn will let us know next weekend after he watches SV/Mac. Can't wait for his preview.Maybe you can join him out on 46 for the game.I'm sure we can arrange some tickets for you.

so, you think SV needs the "perfect game" to beat Madison? I'm sure they could turn the ball over 4 or 5 times even and still beat that weak Madison team.

[CKE]

[QUOTE=bobcat83;902343]

so, you think SV needs the "perfect game" to beat Madison? I'm sure they could turn the ball over 4 or 5 times even and still beat that weak Madison team.

I like you a lot better this way ;)

[bobcat83]

[QUOTE=bobcat83;902343]

so, you think SV needs the "perfect game" to beat Madison? I'm sure they could turn the ball over 4 or 5 times even and still beat that weak Madison team.

Yes-by perfect I mean no turnovers,big play on special teams and create a few turnovers from Madison.And be able to throw succesfully 10-15 times.Reagan may actually be a bigger threat than SV.Just being objective.Walls has been impressive throwing and of course he is very elusive which posters have said Madison has problems with.Very strong up the middle on D.Might have the only DB (McCall) that can handle Askew.

[chainsaw83]

[QUOTE=chainsaw83;902348]

I like you a lot better this way ;)

That was my quote, so i'm guessing you meant me. But, yeah. 61 gave me some of that SV koolaid that y'all have been drinkin. Now i get while y'all are so delusional.

[bobcat83]

[QUOTE=CKE;902388]

That was my quote, so i'm guessing you meant me. But, yeah. 61 gave me some of that SV koolaid that y'all have been drinkin. Now i get while y'all are so delusional.
Thats why you should come to the game-we make that kool-aid out in the woods by the stadium.You will never be the same.

[chainsaw83]

[QUOTE=chainsaw83;902399]
Thats why you should come to the game-we make that kool-aid out in the woods by the stadium.You will never be the same.

ah yes. those infamous "in the woods" meetings. sorry. i don't have white sheets. :D

[CKE]

[QUOTE=CKE;902388]

That was my quote, so i'm guessing you meant me. But, yeah. 61 gave me some of that SV koolaid that y'all have been drinkin. Now i get while y'all are so delusional.

Its in the water ;)

[Fleeman93]

seriously, Tivy and NB are just 4A programs. O'Connor is a bad team in a bad district. their winning teams aren't REALLY as good as their records ever show. Mac is awful and always will be. Johnson is an up and coming program. They are by far the best team Madison has played to this point.

I'm just waiting for Madison to play a team worth being labeled a winning team or hell, even a 5A program. Madison really isn't worth a sh!#. They'll get run out of this district


Ok we will go with Johnson. The following is a comparison of what SV and Madison did against Johnson:

Total yards
Mad - 482, SV - 447
First downs
Mad - 18, SV - 23
Rushes/Yds
Mad - 30/378, SV - 44/294
Average rush
Mad - 12.6, SV - 6.68
Comp/Atts/Int
Mad - 7/11/1, SV - 9/13/0
Pass yards
Mad - 104, SV - 153
Comp pct
Mad - 63.64, SV - 69.23
Punts
Mad - 1, SV - 2
Punting Yards
Mad - 41, SV - 71
Punting Average
Mad - 41, SV - 35.5
Fumbles/Lost
Mad - 1/1, SV - 0/0
Penalties/Yards
Mad - 13/129, SV - 4/40


SCORE
MAD - 41-13, SV 42-7

Looks like there isn't as much difference here as some of you would like us to think. That looks like two common opponents where SV is better. My case for SV seemed to get a little stronger once I started digging.

[bobcat83]

Ok we will go with Johnson. The following is a comparison of what SV and Madison did against Johnson:

Total yards
Mad - 482, SV - 447
First downs
Mad - 18, SV - 23
Rushes/Yds
Mad - 30/378, SV - 44/294
Average rush
Mad - 12.6, SV - 6.68
Comp/Atts/Int
Mad - 7/11/1, SV - 9/13/0
Pass yards
Mad - 104, SV - 153
Comp pct
Mad - 63.64, SV - 69.23
Punts
Mad - 1, SV - 2
Punting Yards
Mad - 41, SV - 71
Punting Average
Mad - 41, SV - 35.5
Fumbles/Lost
Mad - 1/1, SV - 0/0
Penalties/Yards
Mad - 13/129, SV - 4/40


SCORE
MAD - 41-13, SV 42-7

Looks like there isn't as much difference here as some of you would like us to think. That looks like two common opponents where SV is better. My case for SV seemed to get a little stronger once I started digging.

13 penalties against Johnson:confused:-I hope those were in the 2nd half when the starters were out.I think SV finally has their penalty issue straightened out.SV played their starters 1 series into the 2nd half- I think Madison did the same.

[shooter]

13 penalties against Johnson:confused:-I hope those were in the 2nd half when the starters were out.I think SV finally has their penalty issue straightened out.SV played their starters 1 series into the 2nd half- I think Madison did the same.

I was at both Johnson vs SV and Johnson vs Madison the 13 penalties were mostly holding calls against Madison in the second half. I think the refs got tiered of holding their hands above their heads so when Madison had a back break free into the secondary they would throw a flag and call a holding call.

Just like last week I don't think comparing teams against a non-quality opponent is fair. Johnson is not anywhere near the talent level as these two teams are and does not execute anywhere near either. So I think the stats and score is more about when one team shut things down and depth more than anything. SV has more depth from what i could see than Madison, but Madison's starting players overall had more raw talent than SV.

This game might come down to special teams play and if that's the case Madison will loose. Madison has to shore up the FG kicking duties or it will bite them in the back-side someday soon. These extra points just barely clearing the cross-bar are entertaining but not if you need that 1 point. I would almost suggest to Madison that going for two after ever score is a better option right now. If you convert 50% of your 2-point conversions you are better off at the end of the game than you are now. If if you are 33% you still are about in the same boat as you are currently. Madison's defense is not good enough right now for the offence to average 6.2 points every touchdown.

[Fleeman93]

I was at both Johnson vs SV and Johnson vs Madison the 13 penalties were mostly holding calls against Madison in the second half. I think the refs got tiered of holding their hands above their heads so when Madison had a back break free into the secondary they would throw a flag and call a holding call.

Just like last week I don't think comparing teams against a non-quality opponent is fair. Johnson is not anywhere near the talent level as these two teams are and does not execute anywhere near either. So I think the stats and score is more about when one team shut things down and depth more than anything. SV has more depth from what i could see than Madison, but Madison's starting players overall had more raw talent than SV.

This game might come down to special teams play and if that's the case Madison will loose. Madison has to shore up the FG kicking duties or it will bite them in the back-side someday soon. These extra points just barely clearing the cross-bar are entertaining but not if you need that 1 point. I would almost suggest to Madison that going for two after ever score is a better option right now. If you convert 50% of your 2-point conversions you are better off at the end of the game than you are now. If if you are 33% you still are about in the same boat as you are currently. Madison's defense is not good enough right now for the offence to average 6.2 points every touchdown.


So that brings us back to NB which is clearly better than Johnson in my opinion. SV handled NB much easier than Madison did.

[shooter]

So that brings us back to NB which is clearly better than Johnson in my opinion. SV handled NB much easier than Madison did.

I was not either NB game so it's hard for me to compare the two but someone told me that Wort only played one series against SV. I know I know it's just one player but he seems to be a lot of what NB was counting on as he was playing both ways to start the season. When a High School team looses a very talented or marquee player on either side of the ball it's sometimes hard to adjust mentally to the loss for a few weeks (See 2007 Madison - Devin Thomas).

[CKE]

I was not either NB game so it's hard for me to compare the two but someone told me that Wort only played one series against SV. I know I know it's just one player but he seems to be a lot of what NB was counting on as he was playing both ways to start the season. When a High School team looses a very talented or marquee player on either side of the ball it's sometimes hard to adjust mentally to the loss for a few weeks (See 2007 Madison - Devin Thomas).
Wort went out half way through the second quarter

[longhorn3]

Obviously a lack of knowledge......all but one SV starter was on Varsity last year -those kids didn't play against Madison's JV.They were back ups or part time players. I don't think Madison is as good as last year because of their defense.With the athletes they have I am suprised at the yards they give up.

obviously you don't crap with only all but one played varisty as i can attest to at least 5 on the starting jv squad dumb ***

[longhorn3]

Wow. Don't you read? Everyone knows that SV is better than Madison!! Seriously, you really do make yourself look silly... ESPECIALLY ranking Madison #1. Good grief. All these guys are here telling you that Madison really isn't THAT good... AND, it's not like those guys have a long history of disliking Madison either. :rolleyes: At the very MOST Madison should be ranked 3rd because, since they're not better than SV, and since SV got beat by Reagan, by default, Madison should be ranked 3rd. It's pretty darn simple.

Hell, i'll be shocked if Madison makes the playoffs at all. There's no way they beat SV or Reagan... and ever since this spring it's been obvious that Roosevelt is going to take this district by storm. I know you're a Madison homer and all, but good lord, figure your crap out!!!!

love you chainsaw!!!!

[CKE]

obviously you don't crap with only all but one played varisty as i can attest to at least 5 on the starting jv squad dumb ***

Please do not challenge the language filter

[longhorn3]

THEN COME GET SOME IF YOU THINK YOU CAN HANDLE IT...I am sick and tired of the SV fans bashing Madison...Always think there is some angle..and you want to bash me for being proud of Madison then come frigin get some...I will be here to the last dying day...All i can say is wait for 2 weeks and see if we here from them want to be SV fans and see who is talking then cause it won't be about SV it will be some sorry excuse like longhorn was an AZZhole or something but it won't be the but whopping you just took...come frigin get some cowboy and if you had any nutz you would say something before the game..don't come afterward

[CKE]

THEN COME GET SOME IF YOU THINK YOU CAN HANDLE IT...I am sick and tired of the SV fans bashing Madison...Always think there is some angle..and you want to bash me for being proud of Madison then come frigin get some...I will be here to the last dying day...All i can say is wait for 2 weeks and see if we here from them want to be SV fans and see who is talking then cause it won't be about SV it will be some sorry excuse like longhorn was an AZZhole or something but it won't be the but whopping you just took...come frigin get some cowboy and if you had any nutz you would say something before the game..don't come afterward

You have problems.....

[longhorn3]

We ought to read some of your posts!
Game 1-I thought Madison would kill O'Connor-didnt happen
Game 2-based on game 1 and Tivy's performance against TR a of us said do not understimate Tivy's offense regardless of being 4A or not.Didn't pick Tivy just basically said respect them-look whahappened.
Game 3-NB-again not much respect from Madison posters-Their defense has never faced a RB like Green-but they had in their last playoff game the year before.The kid from Oregan State that torched USC.NB held their own.
Mac's defense isnt as good as NB,Reagan,SV or probably TR by the time Madison plays them.

Their best win was against New Braunfels. They got big plays from the special teams and defense.Green went from 9 td's to zero and they still won.
Oh and your Johnson may get their 2nd win against Churchill.Maybe not -but Churchill is on their 5th and 6th QB this year due to injuries.
funny thing was Madison won all thoses games...next dumb question from you????what a true madison hater but i see why cause your team is not winning...oh boo hoo already

[CKE]

funny thing was Madison won all thoses games...next dumb question from you????what a true madison hater but i see why cause your team is not winning...oh boo hoo already

SV has lost 1 game this year.If you consider that not winning then you still make yourself look silly....I do enjoy all of the envy and jealousy you show to SV. I try to look at it from you point of view sometimes and see that all you want is for Madison to achieve at least half of the recognition that SV has over the years....I really do feel for you :(

[longhorn3]

Ok we will go with Johnson. The following is a comparison of what SV and Madison did against Johnson:

Total yards
Mad - 482, SV - 447
First downs
Mad - 18, SV - 23
Rushes/Yds
Mad - 30/378, SV - 44/294
Average rush
Mad - 12.6, SV - 6.68
Comp/Atts/Int
Mad - 7/11/1, SV - 9/13/0
Pass yards
Mad - 104, SV - 153
Comp pct
Mad - 63.64, SV - 69.23
Punts
Mad - 1, SV - 2
Punting Yards
Mad - 41, SV - 71
Punting Average
Mad - 41, SV - 35.5
Fumbles/Lost
Mad - 1/1, SV - 0/0
Penalties/Yards
Mad - 13/129, SV - 4/40


SCORE
MAD - 41-13, SV 42-7

Looks like there isn't as much difference here as some of you would like us to think. That looks like two common opponents where SV is better. My case for SV seemed to get a little stronger once I started digging.

wow, fleeman i thought you were more intelligent then this..Madison was playing back ups in the 3 rd quarter...where SV still had starters late in the game..oh but im sorry i was only at both games...what the heck would i know..secondly see how much you talk when madison beats them by ten...see if you hear from cke and company

[CKE]

wow, fleeman i thought you were more intelligent then this..Madison was playing back ups in the 3 rd quarter...where SV still had starters late in the game..oh but im sorry i was only at both games...what the heck would i know..secondly see how much you talk when madison beats them by ten...see if you here from cke and company

I will always be here...I can't help but make you look silly :D

[longhorn3]

You have problems.....

Not problems my friend..but so sick of SV fans hating on Madison..and don't give me you don't hate madison when every week you have something to doubt them or talk bad about them...now you were some football player back in the day with SV and you have a right to be a loyal fan but don't tell me in your best judgement you think you will win against madison this year..if so clearly state your opinion now or forever hold your peace and i am cool with you holding your peace..but don't go dogging the boys from madison because they are better then you this year...you are better then that right ????

[saMavsFan]

pack of degenerates, all of you:mad:

[longhorn3]

SV has lost 1 game this year.If you consider that not winning then you still make yourself look silly....I do enjoy all of the envy and jealousy you show to SV. I try to look at it from you point of view sometimes and see that all you want is for Madison to achieve at least half of the recognition that SV has over the years....I really do feel for you :(

SV is in my rear view mirror my friend..you will be there for many years to come...see how you deal with that...won't be hearing from cke in the future..or it will be only of excuses...

[longhorn3]

pack of degenerates, all of you:mad:

you got that right...madison is a bunch of degenerates..you did'nt know that by now?

[wizenbud]

pack of degenerates, all of you:mad:

Way too much male hormone floating around in here. ;)

[CKE]

Not problems my friend..but so sick of SV fans hating on Madison..and don't give me you don't hate madison when every week you have something to doubt them or talk bad about them...now you were some football player back in the day with SV and you have a right to be a loyal fan but don't tell me in your best judgement you think you will win against madison this year..if so clearly state your opinion now or forever hold your peace and i am cool with you holding your peace..but don't go dogging the boys from madison because they are better then you this year...you are better then that right ????

Sv has done much better against comment opponents and I think will beat Madison....but really you do have problems I don't dog on anyone I state VERY good facts....and even your own Madison posters agree with most of them....Maybe the only people I dog on is you and chainsaw because of how arrogant y'all are now that Madison is not the whipping child and has a decent shot at winning district after a long era of being mediocre

[shooter]

wow, fleeman i thought you were more intelligent then this..Madison was playing back ups in the 3 rd quarter...where SV still had starters late in the game..oh but im sorry i was only at both games...what the heck would i know..secondly see how much you talk when madison beats them by ten...see if you here from cke and company

as for SV playing starters late in the game agains Johnson?

Here is the stat line for rushing that night for SV
Reinhart 10-82 (starting tailback)
Mecke 7-70 (back up running back)
Corrales 4-28 (third string running back)
Mathews 2-23 (starting wide receiver)
Whisenhunt 6-22 (fourth string running back)

They did not have it in the box score but I could have sworn i saw Enrique Guzman run the ball in the 4th quarter. The only reason I say that is because he wears number 98 easy to spot that number coming out of the back field, and ussualy a sign the starters are at What-a-burger.

[CKE]

pack of degenerates, all of you:mad:

It gets crazy when Madison has had a history of dropping of half way through the year but then wins district for the first time since 2001 (I think) and you have people calling for Madison to be gods gift to the football world...it gets a little old.

[shooter]

SV is in my rear view mirror my friend..you will be there for many years to come...see how you deal with that...won't be hearing from cke in the future..or it will be only of excuses...

As a Madison supporter last year i do remember cke was one of the first to post congratulations to Madison fans and team after both losses last year. He will be here win or loose...

[CKE]

as for SV playing starters late in the game agains Johnson?

Here is the stat line for rushing that night for SV
Reinhart 10-82 (starting tailback)
Mecke 7-70 (back up running back)
Corrales 4-28 (third string running back)
Mathews 2-23 (starting wide receiver)
Whisenhunt 6-22 (fourth string running back)

They did not have it in the box score but I could have sworn i saw Enrique Guzman run the ball in the 4th quarter. The only reason I say that is because he wears number 98 easy to spot that number coming out of the back field, and ussualy a sign the starters are at What-a-burger.
Stats and logic have no room in this thread Shooter :D

[shooter]

Gotta love a two week lead up to a SV-MAD game!! seems like a thread like this happens every year, almost as reliable as Christmas and Taxes.

[shooter]

Stats and logic have no room in this thread Shooter :D

yea well someone has to at least try....

[wizenbud]

It gets crazy when Madison has had a history of dropping of half way through the year but then wins district for the first time since 2001 (I think) and you have people calling for Madison to be gods gift to the football world...it gets a little old.

I think people fall in love with offense, that's all. That's why Madison is figured to be the favorites by most. Their offense has got WOW power. But, as most of us know, its the D that is the true question mark of the Mavs.
I mean, any team that wants to beat Madison better be able to score in the high 30's, low 40's and have a pretty darn good defensive game to beat them. IMO.

[longhorn3]

Sv has done much better against comment opponents and I think will beat Madison....but really you do have problems I don't dog on anyone I state VERY good facts....and even your own Madison posters agree with most of them....Maybe the only people I dog on is you and chainsaw because of how arrogant y'all are now that Madison is not the whipping child and has a decent shot at winning district after a long era of being mediocre

So now i have it on record that you say SV beats Madison..thats all i wanted becasue now im saving this so when Madison beat them by more then ten you will shut your pie hole already you unbelievable excuse for a SV fan. I will love it more when they crush you..so i can rub it in your face...i will let you know daily how it feels to get beat down...i am usually not like this in nature but you bring the worst out in me..i aplogize to any madison fan i may offend but CKE is a jerk and needs to put into his 21 year old body..thanks

[CKE]

So now i have it on record that you say SV beats Madison..thats all i wanted becasue now im saving this so when Madison beat them by more then ten you will shut your pie hole already you unbelievable excuse for a SV fan. I will love it more when they crush you..so i can rub it in your face...i will let you know daily how it feels to get beat down...i am usually not like this in nature but you bring the worst out in me..i aplogize to any madison fan i may offend but CKE is a jerk and needs to put into his 21 year old body..thanks
Wow...major problems

[longhorn3]

CKE you have all these folks fooled by your i state facts and opinion gig...the bottom line is you are a homer...you love breath eat sleep sv...you try and side step at every point about how bad madison is and how they can't or won't win but yet they manage to do so...you even got poor shooter thinking your some grand guy...your nothing more then a player that left school and wishes he was still back on the field playing...it's over with and done with..get over it already...the players play and the coaches coach..we are fans at this point and we have our opinions and state them accordingly...but don't be a such a hater that you cant get past your playing days...hell if that was the case then my high school team would kick the crap out of these teams..but we don't live back in the day and can only talk about teams in front of us...madison this year is better then SV...get used to saying that as much as you might not like it...

[CKE]

CKE you have all these folks fooled by your i state facts and opinion gig...the bottom line is you are a homer...you love breath eat sleep sv...you try and side step at every point about how bad madison is and how they can't or won't win but yet they manage to do so...you even got poor shooter thinking your some grand guy...your nothing more then a player that left school and wishes he was still back on the field playing...it's over with and done with..get over it already...they players play and the coaches coach..we are fans at this point and we have our opinions and state them accordingly...but don't be a such a hater that you cant get past your playing days...hell if that was the case then my high school team would kick the crap out of these teams..but we don't live back in the day and can only talk about teams in front of us...madison this year is better then SV...get used to saying that as much as you might not like it...

LOL you really are nuts.....and make yourself look so ignorant :laugh

[wizenbud]

Is being a homer illegal in the forum ?

Just wondering, because I am the biggest homer here. :D

[CKE]

Is being a homer illegal in the forum ?

Just wondering, because I am the biggest homer here. :D
If you are not from Madison "gods gift to Texas high school football" then yes :D

[wizenbud]

I mean, I said TR's defense was better than NB's. How hometown is that ???
:o

[wizenbud]

If you are not from Madison "gods gift to Texas high school football" then yes :D

Is there a fine to pay or something ??

[CKE]

Is there a fine to pay or something ??

Only the wraith of longhorn :eek:

[wizenbud]

Only the wraith of longhorn :eek:

I see, thanks for the heads up. ;)

[wizenbud]

Anybody with a take on TR vs Reagan ?? I got TR +3 (I know, "careful out on that limb!").

TR 17
Reagan 14

But what do I know ? :D

[shooter]

So now i have it on record that you say SV beats Madison..thats all i wanted becasue now im saving this so when Madison beat them by more then ten you will shut your pie hole already you unbelievable excuse for a SV fan. I will love it more when they crush you..so i can rub it in your face...i will let you know daily how it feels to get beat down...i am usually not like this in nature but you bring the worst out in me..i aplogize to any madison fan i may offend but CKE is a jerk and needs to put into his 21 year old body..thanks

From my years of experience on this board the best thing to do is when and if Madison wins is to come on the board and congratulate SV on a fine game and wish them and cke good luck the rest of the way. You might want to add in a "hope we don't run into you guys again in the playoffs" or "That has to be one of the best teams we have played"

It goes a long way in keeping things here civil and also helps keep your status as an active member on this board.

just my experience....

[CKE]

Anybody with a take on TR vs Reagan ?? I got TR +3 (I know, "careful out on that limb!").

TR 17
Reagan 14

But what do I know ? :D

Could go either way after this game I think we will have a better perspective on just how much Roosevelt has improved

[wizenbud]

Could go either way after this game I think we will have a better perspective on just how much Roosevelt has improved

I think, even a loss, as long as it's close, will go a long way towards TR's goal. Make The Playoffs !! If TR stays within 10 of Reagan, I think TR becomes the favorite for the fourth seed. Any takers ??

[wizenbud]

Sorry, Madison thread. My bad !! :o

[samavsfan23]

Sorry, Madison thread. My bad !! :o


Lets focus here people...
As the great CKE said...
Madison "gods gift to Texas high school footbal"

Now theres a man who has come to his senses.:D

[bobcat83]

obviously you don't crap with only all but one played varisty as i can attest to at least 5 on the starting jv squad dumb ***

Again- did you read anything before calling people out??? Please name 5 current SV starters who were playing JV last year.Answers the question-read the posts-whether or not you can comprehend is up for debate.

[bobcat83]

wow, fleeman i thought you were more intelligent then this..Madison was playing back ups in the 3 rd quarter...where SV still had starters late in the game..oh but im sorry i was only at both games...what the heck would i know..secondly see how much you talk when madison beats them by ten...see if you hear from cke and company

You were there? SV starters played one series in the 3rd quarter then were
pulled out-FACT!

[bobcat83]

funny thing was Madison won all thoses games...next dumb question from you????what a true madison hater but i see why cause your team is not winning...oh boo hoo already

Hey little "cowboy" you are making yourself look really stupid when responding to things you do not read.Didn't your teachers tell you to read the whole question before answering! I do not hate Madison and never have.I just don't like when people on top(Madison) do not respect their opponents.In this case you represent Madison-and what a fine representitive you are!
Myself and I am sure CKE( who knows alot more about SV than I do) will be glad to challenge you at any time on football related issues.
In very few of your posts do you show respect for an opposing team thus the lack of respect given to you.

[Fleeman93]

Seems like there are a couple of Madison posters that are just trying to justify in their mind that they are better than SV. I don't see it but what do I know.

[bobcat83]

I see Mr longhorn3 has been banned-good riddance.

Now-everyone wants respect for their favorite program(s) and most if not all in 265A have earned that right over the years.Maybe a long time ago but...see Lee and Churchill.But demographics change and everything cycles through.
I want respect for this years SV team but I'm not asking for it.They will get it if and when they win the big games-Mac is next then Madison.Madison has been on top the past year and until someone knocks them off they deserve it.When you are on top people will point out your opponents strengths-almost everyone is looking for the upset.Look at the college level this week.It' the nature of the beast.I don't think anyone said Madison wasn't good-st pointed out some potetial weaknesses that could be exploited.

Let's lose this and start a new 265A thread-
Fleeman-why don't you start it and give us an objective opinion on the district as outsider sees it and we will go from there.

[mad_fan]

This thread makes a good case for more SLC threads...:cool:

This Madison/SV thing this year will be like betting on the Cowboys/Redskins game...whichever way you bet...bet what you can afford to lose...

[MADMAVMOM]

In my opinion, a lot of you guys should be banned. Why all the hate?? Why do you have to get nasty? Why not some respectful banter about each team, good sportsmanship. Good grief. Way too much testosterone going on.

This is all about the guys on the field. Show some respect. They are our sons, brothers, family, friends. It's one thing to comment that a team has a weak defense, or no passing game, or whatever, but there's no need to get downright mean and ugly about it.

Why would you post something like 'Madison Sucks'. How juvenile. I don't know if some of you people are grown men or not, but you sure don't sound like it.

This thread used to be enjoyable, entertaining, informative, interesting. Some of you guys should be ashamed.

[Fleeman93]

In my opinion, a lot of you guys should be banned. Why all the hate?? Why do you have to get nasty? Why not some respectful banter about each team, good sportsmanship. Good grief. Way too much testosterone going on.

This is all about the guys on the field. Show some respect. They are our sons, brothers, family, friends. It's one thing to comment that a team has a weak defense, or no passing game, or whatever, but there's no need to get downright mean and ugly about it.

Why would you post something like 'Madison Sucks'. How juvenile. I don't know if some of you people are grown men or not, but you sure don't sound like it.

This thread used to be enjoyable, entertaining, informative, interesting. Some of you guys should be ashamed.


Look at the title of the thread. I just gave the opinion that Madison isn't as good as SV and some took that like it is a bad thing.

[MADMAVMOM]

Look at the title of the thread. I just gave the opinion that Madison isn't as good as SV and some took that like it is a bad thing.

It went beyond that ... got nasty, on both sides.
Stating opinions is one thing .. getting ugly and nasty is another.
Bad sportsmanship, if you ask me.
It should all be in good fun.
Quite a few of the guys on this thread got carried away.
Not saying you, but some did (Chainsaw and Longhorn-- way over the top -- hope it made your day, guys).

[bobcat83]

In my opinion, a lot of you guys should be banned. Why all the hate?? Why do you have to get nasty? Why not some respectful banter about each team, good sportsmanship. Good grief. Way too much testosterone going on.

This is all about the guys on the field. Show some respect. They are our sons, brothers, family, friends. It's one thing to comment that a team has a weak defense, or no passing game, or whatever, but there's no need to get downright mean and ugly about it.

Why would you post something like 'Madison Sucks'. How juvenile. I don't know if some of you people are grown men or not, but you sure don't sound like it.

This thread used to be enjoyable, entertaining, informative, interesting. Some of you guys should be ashamed.

With all due respect it was a Madison supporter/graduate who used that term.

[MADMAVMOM]

With all due respect it was a Madison supporter/graduate who used that term.


I KNOW!!!
What the heck?
Like I said, some people should be ashamed. What a way to show support for your school.

[slcdragonfan]

This thread makes a good case for more SLC threads...:cool:

This Madison/SV thing this year will be like betting on the Cowboys/Redskins game...whichever way you bet...bet what you can afford to lose...

HEY!!!:)

But seriously, have you seen the number of Plano and Trinity threads lately? SLC is quietly in the background watching the big boys play. Our threadcount is waaaayyyy down doncha think?;)

[bobcat83]

HEY!!!:)

But seriously, have you seen the number of Plano and Trinity threads lately? SLC is quietly in the background watching the big boys play. Our threadcount is waaaayyyy down doncha think?;)

Had you got to play and beat North Shore it would be different!!!!!!!

[Fleeman93]

Had you got to play and beat North Shore it would be different!!!!!!!


They couldn't beat North Shore!

:eek:








:D

[slcdragonfan]

They couldn't beat North Shore!

:eek:

:D

I smile in your general direction.:)

[saMavsFan]

I think SLC would have had a great game against North Shore. Would have loved to see it.

[saMavsFan]

Tensions went overboard yesterday so I'm glad that's over with.

I know we all like to tear away at eachother. Happens when there are so many great teams all lumped into one district. But I am proud to be from the 265. I'm glad that there is so much to argue over. How could there not be with 6 team that have a legitimate shot at the district crown!!

In all seriousness, I wish everyone the best of luck. Wish I could still be down there. This is going to be a really great season!

[slcdragonfan]

I think SLC would have had a great game against North Shore. Would have loved to see it.

{spoken in a confidential whisper} me 2. but I don't really want to talk about Southlake here because it would invalidate my original point; I would be hijacking the thread.:ninja::)

[saMavsFan]

{spoken in a confidential whisper} me 2. but I don't really want to talk about Southlake here because it would invalidate my original point; I would be hijacking the thread.:ninja::)

lol, hijack away. I love Madison to death...not that my SN gives it away or anything.:D but someone resurrected the long bereft Official 265a thread. Lots of good teams to talk about there, including Madison.

I'm rooting for SLC in Region 1. Behind the scenes is the best way to do it... they won't see you coming. Ok, so maybe that doesn't quite apply to SLC, lol.

[CKE]

In my opinion, a lot of you guys should be banned. Why all the hate?? Why do you have to get nasty? Why not some respectful banter about each team, good sportsmanship. Good grief. Way too much testosterone going on.

This is all about the guys on the field. Show some respect. They are our sons, brothers, family, friends. It's one thing to comment that a team has a weak defense, or no passing game, or whatever, but there's no need to get downright mean and ugly about it.

Why would you post something like 'Madison Sucks'. How juvenile. I don't know if some of you people are grown men or not, but you sure don't sound like it.

This thread used to be enjoyable, entertaining, informative, interesting. Some of you guys should be ashamed.

Please go back and find the post where someone said Madison sucks. The bottom line is Longhorn was so disrespectful in his posts that he got himself banned..he has been disrespectful every week. No one was getting mean and ugly except longhorn and if they were please go back and find the post don't just accuse without facts

[CKE]

I KNOW!!!
What the heck?
Like I said, some people should be ashamed. What a way to show support for your school.

I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D

[SV61]

I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D


Ohhhhhhhhhh,

THAT explains why I never liked Orange Koolaid!!!!

[samavsfan23]

Now with the blunt and disrespectful madison poster gone, we can have a productive conversation. I heart my Mavs but theres a point when I come back to reality, its football, and this forum is here and should not be taken personally.

I have a dream, a dream that one day this board will be free from radical(and disrepectful fans. I have a dream that one day we all shall live harmoniously in the 5atxfb community. :D

[bobcat83]

I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D

Yea but he should have stopped after a few of his Madsion is horrible comments.

And I agree that SV should not look past Mac and they aren't.I haven't seen Mac play but think they are very young and inexperienced on the varsity level just like SV.Should be an interesting game.Kind of like NB I suspect.

[CKE]

Ohhhhhhhhhh,

THAT explains why I never liked Orange Koolaid!!!!

Orange kool-aid really is gross

[samavsfan23]

Orange kool-aid really is gross

Its prolly the grossest thing other than IDK nothing. :laugh

But I still drink it.

Its kinda like when you see something really gross, but you can't look away.

[shooter]

Orange kool-aid really is gross

Oh now you have done it. How can you be so ignorent! Orange kool-aid is the best!!! No one can beat Orange kool-aid. Let me guess you like the Red don't you. You would! Looser! When it comes to kool-aid everyone knows Orange will win on any Thursday, Friday or Saturday and when Oragne kool-aid is still around in December and Red is being served at a basketball game somewhere you will have to come on this board and tell everyone how you were just flat out wrong about Orange Kool-aid. You wait and see! Orange will wipe that Red back-side just like it always does.

We can even look and see how well orange kool-aid did against Yellow and how poorly Red did against yellow if you want, then you might be able to see how great Orange is, or we may have to just wait till you can see Orange kool-aid in person.

[CKE]

Oh now you have done it. How can you be so ignorent! Orange kool-aid is the best!!! No one can beat Orange kool-aid. Let me guess you like the Red don't you. You would! Looser! When it comes to kool-aid everyone knows Orange will win on any Thursday, Friday or Saturday and when Oragne kool-aid is still around in December and Red is being served at a basketball game somewhere you will have to come on this board and tell everyone how you were just flat out wrong about Orange Kool-aid. You wait and see! Orange will wipe that Red back-side just like it always does.

We can even look and see how well orange kool-aid did against Yellow and how poorly Red did against yellow if you want, then you might be able to see how great Orange is, or we may have to just wait till you can see Orange kool-aid in person.

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[GameTyme]

This is my take on Madison a neatrual observer from Lufkin. Now im going off the game I saw against NB. The offense looked good seems like Streety didnt give the stud soph the ball enough. That RB looks scary good to be a sophmore.

On the other hand the defense looked bad alot mis tackles. Not so much that Madison has a bad defense, but They would be in position and just end of missing tackles. They will get better as the season goes on.

That was early in the season so it is hard to tell but overall the RB is the real deal and the defense needs to pick it up a little.

[atwelljroc]

I don't blog for the weekend and all :Censor: breaks out...what did I miss???

Come on guys...I am all for the banter of cheering and supporting the kids and their schools, heck, I do not even have one going to a high school, just kids I coached when they were younger...but please, don't let us forget what it is all about...

1. GOD
2. Family
3. Job
and somewhere after those comes football...OK in Texas for sure it is...

1. GOD
2. Family
3. Job
4. Football

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[atwelljroc]

Oh now you have done it. How can you be so ignorent! Orange kool-aid is the best!!! No one can beat Orange kool-aid. Let me guess you like the Red don't you. You would! Looser! When it comes to kool-aid everyone knows Orange will win on any Thursday, Friday or Saturday and when Oragne kool-aid is still around in December and Red is being served at a basketball game somewhere you will have to come on this board and tell everyone how you were just flat out wrong about Orange Kool-aid. You wait and see! Orange will wipe that Red back-side just like it always does.

We can even look and see how well orange kool-aid did against Yellow and how poorly Red did against yellow if you want, then you might be able to see how great Orange is, or we may have to just wait till you can see Orange kool-aid in person.


Come on, tell the truth...GRAPE is and will always be the BEST!!! take it from an "old" Kool-aid drinker from way back...you know...when TANG came out and Astronauts drank it!!! now that was some good orange drink!!!:notworthy:notworthy

[MADMAVMOM]

Quote: "CKE: I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D

No one was getting mean and ugly except longhorn and if they were please go back and find the post don't just accuse without facts"


How about this:


I'm just waiting for Madison to play a team worth being labeled a winning team or hell, even a 5A program. Madison really isn't worth a sh!#. They'll get run out of this district

I think this is mean and ugly! I agree Longhorn went above and beyond disrespectful and was rightfully banned. But I think Chainsaw did, too. That's a problem with reading forums -- you can't hear sarcasm, joking, inflection, tone. And if you are a Madison fan, it wasn't received kindly. I took as much offense to Chainsaw as I did reading Longhorn's comments, especially since Chainsaw has a "Madison" icon.

Nuf said about all this ... guess I'll just let you guys have your fun and ignore the ugly stuff. Just don't talk about MY kid!!! :)

[CKE]

Quote: "CKE: I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D

No one was getting mean and ugly except longhorn and if they were please go back and find the post don't just accuse without facts"


How about this:



I think this is mean and ugly! I agree Longhorn went above and beyond disrespectful and was rightfully banned. But I think Chainsaw did, too. That's a problem with reading forums -- you can't hear sarcasm, joking, inflection, tone. And if you are a Madison fan, it wasn't received kindly. I took as much offense to Chainsaw as I did reading Longhorn's comments, especially since Chainsaw has a "Madison" icon.

Nuf said about all this ... guess I'll just let you guys have your fun and ignore the ugly stuff. Just don't talk about MY kid!!! :)
I think this is a case of you being new...chainsaw is one of the first Madison poster to post on this board other than Mad_fan and most of us got that he was being sarcastic but I can see how you think he was not since you do not know him.

[shooter]

Quote: "CKE: I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D

No one was getting mean and ugly except longhorn and if they were please go back and find the post don't just accuse without facts"


How about this:



I think this is mean and ugly! I agree Longhorn went above and beyond disrespectful and was rightfully banned. But I think Chainsaw did, too. That's a problem with reading forums -- you can't hear sarcasm, joking, inflection, tone. And if you are a Madison fan, it wasn't received kindly. I took as much offense to Chainsaw as I did reading Longhorn's comments, especially since Chainsaw has a "Madison" icon.

Nuf said about all this ... guess I'll just let you guys have your fun and ignore the ugly stuff. Just don't talk about MY kid!!! :)

MadMom Chainsaw played ball for Streety back in the day, he is a die hard, he was being over the top sarcastic. Here is a tip when someone makes you really mad here; click on the little round ball next to their name. You can look up all of their post they have written or you can send them a private message.

Don't fall for the trap of bashing one of your own. Chain is a good guy with a lot of Orange and White and Blue running through his blood-stream, and his wife makes some mean brownies.

[Shadowweaver]

From my years of experience on this board the best thing to do is when and if Madison wins is to come on the board and congratulate SV on a fine game and wish them and cke good luck the rest of the way. You might want to add in a "hope we don't run into you guys again in the playoffs" or "That has to be one of the best teams we have played"

It goes a long way in keeping things here civil and also helps keep your status as an active member on this board.

just my experience....

I had to stifle a giggle on this one :D:D:D

But I also think it's fair to say the bridge goes both ways :cool:

[Shadowweaver]

Wort went out half way through the second quarter

Thankfully NB's defense put itself back together very nicely against Churchill :D:D

The offense, on the other hand....:eek::Censor::eek:

[Fleeman93]

Oh now you have done it. How can you be so ignorent! Orange kool-aid is the best!!! No one can beat Orange kool-aid. Let me guess you like the Red don't you. You would! Looser! When it comes to kool-aid everyone knows Orange will win on any Thursday, Friday or Saturday and when Oragne kool-aid is still around in December and Red is being served at a basketball game somewhere you will have to come on this board and tell everyone how you were just flat out wrong about Orange Kool-aid. You wait and see! Orange will wipe that Red back-side just like it always does.

We can even look and see how well orange kool-aid did against Yellow and how poorly Red did against yellow if you want, then you might be able to see how great Orange is, or we may have to just wait till you can see Orange kool-aid in person.

My Grandma makes some killer orange kool-aid.

[mad_fan]

Please go back and find the post where someone said Madison sucks. The bottom line is Longhorn was so disrespectful in his posts that he got himself banned..he has been disrespectful every week. No one was getting mean and ugly except longhorn and if they were please go back and find the post don't just accuse without facts

Only because I stayed out of it...;)

[mad_fan]

Now with the blunt and disrespectful madison poster gone, we can have a productive conversation. I heart my Mavs but theres a point when I come back to reality, its football, and this forum is here and should not be taken personally.

I have a dream, a dream that one day this board will be free from radical(and disrepectful fans. I have a dream that one day we all shall live harmoniously in the 5atxfb community. :D

I think he was MavsDEnd from last year...
He'll be back...

[CKE]

Only because I stayed out of it...;)

Thats because you know whats good for you :mad: :D

[CKE]

I think he was MavsDEnd from last year...
He'll be back...

I can almost guarantee he will be back

[saMavsFan]

The great Kool-Aid debate is ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!!
Got to go with atwell on this one, grape is the best!

THAT'S RIGHT! I said it, who wants some. I'll take all of you on!!

[D-FW#1]

The only thing I know about San Antonio Madison is that they are on fire at the beginning of the season. Then seem to fizzle out or 3 rounds into the playoffs. Will this season be different?

[saMavsFan]

The only thing I know about San Antonio Madison is that they are on fire at the beginning of the season. Then seem to fizzle out or 3 rounds into the playoffs. Will this season be different?

Not really a fizzle per se, its just that we've run into some really spectacular teams over the years. Katy, SV twice, Austin Westlake... all of whom went on to play in the state championship game.

What I'm worried about is a repeat of 2006. We won our first 5 games, and lost our last 5. Mainly because the defense went to pot. The defense we have now isn't as good as that defense was, but these guys try harder than that defense did. So, I give them credit for that. They don't have the physical ability that last year's defense did, but not many defenses ever do.

[CKE]

The great Kool-Aid debate is ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!!
Got to go with atwell on this one, grape is the best!

THAT'S RIGHT! I said it, who wants some. I'll take all of you on!!

Strawberry kiwi

http://www.tvacres.com/images/koolaid5b.jpg

[chainsaw83]

Was my sarcasm really THAT difficult to pick up? :rolleyes:

You don't have to worry about me MadMom. Like everyone has said, the only reason you were offended is because you don't know me or my history here.

[D-FW#1]

Not really a fizzle per se, its just that we've run into some really spectacular teams over the years. Katy, SV twice, Austin Westlake... all of whom went on to play in the state championship game.

What I'm worried about is a repeat of 2006. We won our first 5 games, and lost our last 5. Mainly because the defense went to pot. The defense we have now isn't as good as that defense was, but these guys try harder than that defense did. So, I give them credit for that. They don't have the physical ability that last year's defense did, but not many defenses ever do.

I don't know man. I mean judging from the one game I did see, on tv ,The Mavericks are pretty good. If they can manage to stay focused and stay healthy anything is possible. Playing in that district should pay off come playoff time.

[mad_fan]

The only thing I know about San Antonio Madison is that they are on fire at the beginning of the season. Then seem to fizzle out or 3 rounds into the playoffs. Will this season be different?

I sure wish San Angelo Central would get to the point of fizzling out in the 3rd round...

[DiamondJ2]

Not really a fizzle per se, its just that we've run into some really spectacular teams over the years. Katy, SV twice, Austin Westlake... all of whom went on to play in the state championship game.

What I'm worried about is a repeat of 2006. We won our first 5 games, and lost our last 5. Mainly because the defense went to pot. The defense we have now isn't as good as that defense was, but these guys try harder than that defense did. So, I give them credit for that. They don't have the physical ability that last year's defense did, but not many defenses ever do.

Don't believe that will occur this season. If I remember correctly, the Mavs lost two tough games, then seemed to call it an early season. I believe that this group is out to prove last season was no fluke and despite the graduation losses, they want to prove they are just as good. Offensively, they may have more balance, but the spotty defense may be the Achilles heel.

[MADMAVMOM]

Was my sarcasm really THAT difficult to pick up? :rolleyes:

You don't have to worry about me MadMom. Like everyone has said, the only reason you were offended is because you don't know me or my history here.


Okay, okay. NOW I know!
Should have gone with my first impression that you were being over-the-top sarcastic. Instead, I went into defense-mom-mode.
Sorry.

[redhead]

Is Madison versus Lamar going to be a good game? What is the overall record when the two schools play each other?

[Fleeman93]

Is Madison versus Lamar going to be a good game? What is the overall record when the two schools play each other?


I think you might have the wrong city.

[bullrock]

Why couldn't Mangold make this offense work at Judson? Is the talent that much better over there or are the kids just smarter? Makes you wonder if was on two payrolls????:confused:

[chainsaw83]

Why couldn't Mangold make this offense work at Judson? Is the talent that much better over there or are the kids just smarter? Makes you wonder if was on two payrolls????:confused:

Madison players have been introduced to this offense since middle school. It's just like the Judson offense. It's the same as the Judson district. The kids at Kitty Hawk, Kirby, etc have learned the power game and expect to run that same offense when they get to Judson. Mangold was only at Judson for a couple seasons. You can't expect an offensive coordinator to change the entire offensive culture of a successful program in only a couple years.

Mangold took the system that Rittiman had developed over a twenty year span at Madison and tried to implement it at Judson. It's just not going to take in just a few years. ESPECIALLY if Rackly had a different view of the way the offense should be handled. If Rackly still wanted a power offensive system, Mangold's hands may have been tied.

I think you're not necessarily seeing an offense that Mangold has had to institute at Madison, rather an offense that is just picking up where Rittiman left it. I think Mangold or Cueva would have been the perfect guys to step in and continue what Rittiman had built. But, Cueva went with Rittiman to be the OC at Johnson.

Ultimately, if Judson had an offense built on the same principals that Madison had built theirs on for the past couple decades, then the system might have taken off under Mangold's watch. But, like i said, Judson has built their offensive system on a power game.

[shooter]

Madison players have been introduced to this offense since middle school. It's just like the Judson offense. It's the same as the Judson district. The kids at Kitty Hawk, Kirby, etc have learned the power game and expect to run that same offense when they get to Judson. Mangold was only at Judson for a couple seasons. You can't expect an offensive coordinator to change the entire offensive culture of a successful program in only a couple years.

Mangold took the system that Rittiman had developed over a twenty year span at Madison and tried to implement it at Judson. It's just not going to take in just a few years. ESPECIALLY if Rackly had a different view of the way the offense should be handled. If Rackly still wanted a power offensive system, Mangold's hands may have been tied.

I think you're not necessarily seeing an offense that Mangold has had to institute at Madison, rather an offense that is just picking up where Rittiman left it. I think Mangold or Cueva would have been the perfect guys to step in and continue what Rittiman had built. But, Cueva went with Rittiman to be the OC at Johnson.

Ultimately, if Judson had an offense built on the same principals that Madison had built theirs on for the past couple decades, then the system might have taken off under Mangold's watch. But, like i said, Judson has built their offensive system on a power game.


Ok that means in 18 years Johnson should be just as good as Madison today. Well at least i don't have to wait my whole life for it to happen!!!

[saMavsFan]

Ok that means in 18 years Johnson should be just as good as Madison today. Well at least i don't have to wait my whole life for it to happen!!!

Lol. Well, I think it will take 5-6 years for Johnson to be a contender. Reagan did quite well around that time. Although, depending on whether or not a new school is built that takes away from Johnson, could be a little longer. But they've got the right coaches to build a competitive program.

[mad_fan]

Good enough to get an 11 page thread???:)

[chainsaw83]

Good enough to get an 11 page thread???:)

nope... not that good. haven't you read this thread?

[saMavsFan]

Good enough to get an 11 page thread???:)

just good enough for 11 pages.:D

[DiamondJ2]

Madison players have been introduced to this offense since middle school. It's just like the Judson offense. It's the same as the Judson district. The kids at Kitty Hawk, Kirby, etc have learned the power game and expect to run that same offense when they get to Judson. Mangold was only at Judson for a couple seasons. You can't expect an offensive coordinator to change the entire offensive culture of a successful program in only a couple years.

Mangold took the system that Rittiman had developed over a twenty year span at Madison and tried to implement it at Judson. It's just not going to take in just a few years. ESPECIALLY if Rackly had a different view of the way the offense should be handled. If Rackly still wanted a power offensive system, Mangold's hands may have been tied.

I think you're not necessarily seeing an offense that Mangold has had to institute at Madison, rather an offense that is just picking up where Rittiman left it. I think Mangold or Cueva would have been the perfect guys to step in and continue what Rittiman had built. But, Cueva went with Rittiman to be the OC at Johnson.

Ultimately, if Judson had an offense built on the same principals that Madison had built theirs on for the past couple decades, then the system might have taken off under Mangold's watch. But, like i said, Judson has built their offensive system on a power game.

It also shows how good of an OC that Coach Jeter was at Judson for 20 years. He did an excellent job during the game and in preparing the OL with very simple blocking schemes. Madison can have the high scoring offense and set individual player records, but I'll still take the 16 semifinal games, 11 state finals and six state championships anyday.

[Bottomline]

The best thing about all this is ... The game will be played on friday the 10th. So no matter who says what, what the stats say it will all come down to laying it all out on the field.

[longhorn3]

Quote: "CKE: I see now you are talking about chainsaw using the "Madison sucks" in his post...He was being very sarcastic and we had fun with it it was not disrespectful in any way and he did nothing wrong...he could not help it he drank some navy blue kool-aid his cousin gave him.:D

No one was getting mean and ugly except longhorn and if they were please go back and find the post don't just accuse without facts"


How about this:



I think this is mean and ugly! I agree Longhorn went above and beyond disrespectful and was rightfully banned. But I think Chainsaw did, too. That's a problem with reading forums -- you can't hear sarcasm, joking, inflection, tone. And if you are a Madison fan, it wasn't received kindly. I took as much offense to Chainsaw as I did reading Longhorn's comments, especially since Chainsaw has a "Madison" icon.

Nuf said about all this ... guess I'll just let you guys have your fun and ignore the ugly stuff. Just don't talk about MY kid!!! :)
You can't keep a good man down for too long. I was rude and nasty and hateful and I am so ashamed of myself...I was banned for 7 days and I could not sleep any of those days...I was banned because someone who usually dishes it out couldnt take it and went and sent a note to the admin...No big deal..I was actually on here reading everything everday any way just on my work computer...either way, I am back and shooting for the throat...I love my team and will always love them...I apologize for offending true Madison fans but a certain someone gets under my skin...It's still debateable who the true Mad Mav fans our though..Just my opinion though..have a coke and a smile

[Shadowweaver]

You can't keep a good man down for too long. I was rude and nasty and hateful and I am so ashamed of myself...I was banned for 7 days and I could not sleep any of those days...I was banned because someone who usually dishes it out couldnt take it and went and sent a note to the admin...No big deal..I was actually on here reading everything everday any way just on my work computer...either way, I am back and shooting for the throat...I love my team and will always love them...I apologize for offending true Madison fans but a certain someone gets under my skin...It's still debateable who the true Mad Mav fans our though..Just my opinion though..have a coke and a smile

your offensiveness extended beyond the scope of Madison fans, but that's beside the point. The unfortunate part is, it appears the lessons of the past week were not learned and absorbed.

In the end it's just one opinion and it doesn't really matter, what matters is done on the field, but your retort left me with the desire to comment on it.

[CKE]

You can't keep a good man down for too long. I was rude and nasty and hateful and I am so ashamed of myself...I was banned for 7 days and I could not sleep any of those days...I was banned because someone who usually dishes it out couldnt take it and went and sent a note to the admin...No big deal..I was actually on here reading everything everday any way just on my work computer...either way, I am back and shooting for the throat...I love my team and will always love them...I apologize for offending true Madison fans but a certain someone gets under my skin...It's still debateable who the true Mad Mav fans our though..Just my opinion though..have a coke and a smile

I know you are referring to me and no note was sent at all...it was your own personality and attitude that you express every day that brought the attention to the admins And even your own fellow posters that were glad that you were banned.In fact a PM was sent to me telling me they had banned you. I'm sure you will not be here much longer though if you keep up the attitude that you have had since you started posting. You have never shown much respect or manners since you have been here.

[CKE]

your offensiveness extended beyond the scope of Madison fans, but that's beside the point. The unfortunate part is, it appears the lessons of the past week were not learned and absorbed.

In the end it's just one opinion and it doesn't really matter, what matters is done on the field, but your retort left me with the desire to comment on it.

Nor will it be I'm afraid

[Bottomline]

Madison can have the high scoring offense and set individual player records, but I'll still take the 16 semifinal games, 11 state finals and six state championships anyday.

Football traditions are something to hang your hat on here in Texas but it's what you do today that keep them going. Brackenridge, Jefferson, Holmes amd Lee all at one time were MAJOR powerhouses but as more and more schools are being built today, that tends to shift. Judson has had a GREAT tradition. One of the most respected in the State and they benifited immensly from a HUGE enrollment. Wagner put a little hurt in the program but one that will not be felt for at least another few years. Tradition and solid coaching will keep Judson competitive but their enrollment may continue to take a hit.

[longhorn3]

Nor will it be I'm afraid

i have no problems with you what so ever...enjoy the game and may the best team win...good luck

[CKE]

i have no problems with you what so ever...enjoy the game and may the best team win...good luck

uh huh

[chainsaw83]

You can't keep a good man down for too long. I was rude and nasty and hateful and I am so ashamed of myself...I was banned for 7 days and I could not sleep any of those days...I was banned because someone who usually dishes it out couldnt take it and went and sent a note to the admin...No big deal..I was actually on here reading everything everday any way just on my work computer...either way, I am back and shooting for the throat...I love my team and will always love them...I apologize for offending true Madison fans but a certain someone gets under my skin...It's still debateable who the true Mad Mav fans our though..Just my opinion though..have a coke and a smile

what? :confused:

[chainsaw83]

hey!!! 11 pages!!!!

[longhorn3]

what? :confused:

you are true diehard my friend and have no problems with saying that...you and I are the only ones who will go to the tilt to defend our team...maybe sometimes, ok once in awhile i might go a little overboard but not to bad...ok heck with it, im out of control sometimes with it...

Madison wins

[DiamondJ2]

Not sure if it has been mentioned earlier in the thread, but will the layoff have any effect on the Mavs?

[CKE]

Not sure if it has been mentioned earlier in the thread, but will the layoff have any effect on the Mavs?

what layoff?

[CKE]

That's right Madison did not play last week...I don't think it will at all if anything it might make them much more prepared for Sv.

[chainsaw83]

That's right Madison did not play last week...I don't think it will at all if anything it might make them much more prepared for Sv.

Well, according to some, Madison hasn't played a game yet. So... :rolleyes: they might be rusty.

[longhorn3]

Well, according to some, Madison hasn't played a game yet. So... :rolleyes: they might be rusty.

Come now Chainsaw, its time to play well with others...heck you already blew up the kickers mom forward and backwards