Re-thinking the legacy of R.C. Slocum [Archive]

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GoOwls

11-10-2005, 02:26 AM

I've heard that at the official aggy web site, the posters are going crazy and fighting over whether it's Coach Frans problem, or whether he inherited a depleted program from Slocum. Here are a few interesting numbers.

Coach Fran is working on his 3rd consecutive losing season. Slocum never had one.

Coach Frans' record is 16-17, and his teams were beaten by 20 or more points in 11 of those 17 losses.

Did he inherit a depleted program, or is he just doing less, with more, than any coach in America since Fred Akers?

HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

FootballJunkie

11-10-2005, 07:43 AM

ThEgReAtOnE

11-10-2005, 08:38 AM

R.C. Slocum is the winningest coach in Texas A&M history (123-47-2) and he was the winningest coach in all of college football in 90's(94-25-2). And he had 5 - 10 win seasons and and 3 - 9 win seasons.

In walks Dennis Fran"choky" - the site director of jump-around-employment.com - and he takes hold of a solid athletic and successful program, of which he then begins a successful campaign of total in-house destruction!

He took Texas A&M that had produced 16 First Team All-Americans in the 90's and has yet to produce 1. Slocum had 2 players that finished in the Top 10 in the Heisman voting...Darren Lewis - 8th (1990) and Bucky Richardson - 10th (1991). And one of Slocums recruits was a Heisman candidate at the beginning of this season, in Reggie McNeal.

Sorry, Dennis doesn't project to have the kind of success Slocum had. He wasn't a "very" successful coach where he was, anyhow. Alabama and TCU - while they were still very good programs - never contended for a National Championship. So what did A&M think they were going to get?

Slocum had coached 14 years, yes, but he was close to playing for a title at least 3 or 4 times.

Tell me...
Where do you see Dennis in 14 years?!...I'd bet it's not with the Texas A&M Aggies! ;)

jtk1519

11-10-2005, 08:45 AM

RC always got some bad pub because he was a remnant of the FedEx Sherrill days, but I always liked RC. I thought he was a good coach. I also thought aggy was stupid to get rid of him. They went out and hired a "quick fix" and that quick fix has done more damage to aggy than they can possibly fix in the near future.

rattlerbacker

11-10-2005, 08:51 AM

Coach Fran is working on his 3rd consecutive losing season. Slocum never had one.

Just a small point of clarification..........Fran did technically have a winning season last year at 7-5...........it just seemed like a losing record after they lost 4 out of their last 5. :D

ThEgReAtOnE

11-10-2005, 09:05 AM

Just a small point of clarification..........Fran did technically have a winning season last year at 7-5...........it just seemed like a losing record after they lost 4 out of their last 5. :D

Ya...but the 4-8 season Dennis had before last season is what closed the books on him! And when you lose 60-20 to Texas Tech, 77-0 to OU, 40-20 to Va Tech and 50-14 to Texas red flags do go up! You wonder, "Would R.C. have lost those games...by that much?!!"

As for Slocum's last season....he went 6-6, but look at this.....in 2002 they lost to TTech in OT, lost to Missouri in 2-OT's, lost to the #1 ranked OU Sooners by 4 pts, at the end of the game and lost to #7 ranked Virginia Tech 13-3. Their worst lost was 50-10 by #10 ranked Texas, but somehow the A&M AD seemed to have forgotten about all those times R.C. laid 30, 40 and 50 against the Longorns in the 90's.

It was a poor decision to let go of the tradition R.C. held! He was a legend with A&M, and trust me when I say if he were still there their records would have rebounded, especially with Reggie at the helm. The recruiting would be much more succesfull and the athletes would still be the top tier caliber that they were under his coaching.

A&M would be much better off with R.C. still guiding!

dragonfootballfan

11-10-2005, 09:17 AM

If Fran makes it to next year I think he will have a schedule that no matter what he will have a winning record.

jtk1519

11-10-2005, 09:23 AM

If Fran makes it to next year I think he will have a schedule that no matter what he will have a winning record.

Never underestimate the sucktitude of Franochio.

dragonfootballfan

11-10-2005, 09:42 AM

Never underestimate the sucktitude of Franochio.
that is true, but I mean the Citadel

pbox

11-10-2005, 11:57 AM

I will start the chants: Kubiak,kubiak,Kubiak......

wide-e-wide

11-10-2005, 12:16 PM

I will start the chants: Kubiak,kubiak,Kubiak......

Chugga maroo Kubiak,Kubiak
Mr. Magoo connect..

ThEgReAtOnE

11-10-2005, 12:20 PM

I will start the chants: Kubiak,kubiak,Kubiak......

Think so?!

I'm thinking more of:

Jimbo Fisher, OC @ LSU
Dana Bible, OC @ Boston College
Norm Chow, OC @ Tennessee Titans (< Norm, it's not like college!)
Rick Neuheisel, QB C @ Baltimore Ravens

dragonfootballfan

11-10-2005, 01:30 PM

Rick Neuheisel, QB C @ Baltimore Ravens
That would be another great coach in a line of squeeky clean ones to coach Aggy

ThEgReAtOnE

11-10-2005, 01:32 PM

That would be another great coach in a line of squeeky clean ones to coach Aggy

everyone has skeletons in their closet. i'd be willing to see what he can do.

dragonfootballfan

11-10-2005, 01:38 PM

everyone has skeletons in their closet. i'd be willing to see what he can do.
I am not doubting what he can do as a coach; I was just pointing out that he would fit right in with the rest of the coaches that Aggy has had. It is not just the office pool incident that I am referring to when putting him into that group. He always bent or pushed the rules at all the programs that he was at.