Ineligible player at Galveston Ball???

[augisdoggies]

Just heard that Galveston Ball may have been busted with an ineligible player. Can anyone confirm this? And if that is the case will La Porte play Alvin?

Again, not sure if this is true. KT???

[Red Raiders]

Just heard that Galveston Ball may have been busted with an ineligible player. Can anyone confirm this? And if that is the case will La Porte play Alvin?

Again, not sure if this is true. KT???

If its true... than thats def. terrible for them.

[Oiler1]

Just heard that Galveston Ball may have been busted with an ineligible player. Can anyone confirm this? And if that is the case will La Porte play Alvin?

Again, not sure if this is true. KT???

Heard the same thing just now. Don't know what is going to happen.

[gball2002]

It is true, Alvin is now in for Ball, heard this from a very reliable source.

Somthing with player not living in school district for over a year, and something with not living with legal guardian.

[Vols4Ever]

The only difference between Ball and half the other teams in 5A is that Ball got caught.

Look deep enough and find wrongdoing with %80 of the teams.

So the UIL has to punish the whole team. Wonderful job.

[augisdoggies]

WOW!!! Sorry to hear about that. Bad for the kids that didn't do anything wrong and will have to pay for it. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Oiler1]

It is true, Alvin is now in for Ball, heard this from a very reliable source.

Somthing with player not living in school district for over a year, and something with not living with legal guardian.

So who is going to play who? Does Alvin play Laporte or switch to play Deer Park since they technically are in 3rd place and Clear Creek is second?

[SuperBuffs]

Just heard that Galveston Ball may have been busted with an ineligible player. Can anyone confirm this? And if that is the case will La Porte play Alvin?

Again, not sure if this is true. KT???


Well Boogie & Da BullDawgs were my pick to upset Galveston Ball, looks like I may be right......so they just don't forfeit, they simply put the next best team in Ball's place?......(IF THIS IS TRUE)

[Oiler1]

The word I'm receiving from someone I know in Alvin is that they announced during their 7th period that they will be playing Laporte. It seems to be the easiest substitution since the field is Clear Creeks stadium for the neutral site and that would remain neutral unless they change the game to Saturday to give the teams more time to prepare for each other.

[Oiler1]

Hmmm....guess I need to change my bracket picks since Ball is out and Alvin is in their place. Yes, I picked Ball over Laporte because they were very good and I'd seen them both play. To bad they were using a player that didn't live on the island. Curious to which player it was and whether he even was impact player or someone just along for the ride.

Can we still edit them if they are already submitted?

[KT2000]

Wow, I haven't heard anything concrete on this yet. I thought the so called "Katy Rule" would prevent teams from being DQed for one player. That might be only once the playoffs have started though. A real shame for Galveston Ball if true.

Horrible timing as far as bracket picks go, but I'm more concerned for the Ball High team. It's too bad for the student in question, and for the players that did everything right.

[bhs06_2]

Vols4Ever makes a good point. I'm sure a whole lot of teams use ineligible players and don't get caught.

[Oiler1]

Wow, I haven't heard anything concrete on this yet. I thought the so called "Katy Rule" would prevent teams from being DQed for one player. That might be only once the playoffs have started though. A real shame for Galveston Ball if true.

Horrible timing as far as bracket picks go, but I'm more concerned for the Ball High team. It's too bad for the student in question, and for the players that did everything right.

Its true, I heard it from the Clear Creek players just now getting home in my neighborhood. Ball had to forfeit all games.

[ktCarl]

The only difference between Ball and half the other teams in 5A is that Ball got caught.

Look deep enough and find wrongdoing with %80 of the teams.

So the UIL has to punish the whole team. Wonderful job.

If the coaches knew and were trying to get away with it then the UIL has to do something about it. I do hate it that the whole team gets punished. That happened to Katy in '98 when one kid cheated on his progress report to be able to suit up. The whole team got punished for it. Didn't make sense.

[KTHoC]

Sounds like '98 all over again. Tough for the kids there. Were the coaches aware of this situation with this player? Like KT said, just one player, doesn't the UIL have a new guideline for such problems? I never heard what they did to fix the problem after Katy was disqualified before the '98 final.

[Texas Bob]

Sounds like '98 all over again. Tough for the kids there. Were the coaches aware of this situation with this player? Like KT said, just one player, doesn't the UIL have a new guideline for such problems? I never heard what they did to fix the problem after Katy was disqualified before the '98 final.

It's my understanding the Katy Rule is very specific. If a coach knew about it and said nothing (for example) the games are forfeited. It's when a player on his own hides his "problem" then the katy rule applies. This is my understanding and I dont know the details of the Ball issue. It is sad for the team.

In the Katy case the player did it on his own and when discovered, Katy reported itself to the UIL.

[augisdoggies]

Well, it makes sense that La Porte plays Alvin. Why screw up and possibly penalize Deer Park, who has been practicing to play Clear Creek, by making them play Alvin.

And even though it is a nuisance (for lack of a better word) that the La Porte coaches now have to change their game plan to accomodate Alvin, I'm sure they all know that they dodged a potential bullet with GB getting disqualified.

IF that's who they end up playing.

[shooter]

Crap I had Ball in the Championship game :)

[pbox]

Look out for the yellowjackets. These kids will be fired up and they play good defense.

[Lakelover]

It's only a rumor but I heard that it was more than one player that did not meet residency requirements, maybe as many as 10, and it did not involve LA storm transplants. If this is true then the coaches and administration certainly did a disservice to the rest of the team and to their school by not checking out these new kids and it was a cut and dry decision for the UIL.

[Finish The Drill]

Lake Lover - you are right it is only a rumor. 10? Come on. It was one kid, he came back to the island this summer to live with his legal gaurdian. 10? Where do you get this stuff?

[BigtimeO-line]

Its not a rumor, i read it this morning in the Houston Chronicle High School sports section,... Ball's out... sad but true

[adcwalker]

It is sad.


Ball High’s football season ends

By Joey Richards
The Daily News

Published November 10, 2005

GALVESTON — The tears came early — and unexpectedly — for the Ball High School football team Wednesday afternoon.

Three days before the Tors were scheduled to play La Porte in the Class 5A, Division II playoffs, the season came to an abrupt end.

Ball High forfeited its eight victories and two losses this season and removed itself from the University Interscholastic League playoffs Wednesday after discovering the team had used an ineligible player this season. Based on a school press release, the unnamed player’s residency status was called into question.

“We are forfeiting 10 football contests because an ineligible player played (in those games),” Ball High athletic director Brent Jaco said.

Ball High was 8-2 on the season, and the only forfeits that matter are the eight games won — especially five district victories. It’s those five district forfeits that keep Ball High out of the playoffs.

“Ball High became aware of the UIL violation (Wednesday),” Jaco said, reading from a prepared statement. “After further investigation, we reported an ineligible varsity football player to the UIL.

“The UIL requires students to live in a district with a guardian for one continuous calendar year or more before participating in a UIL-sanctioned activity such as football. Students must be eligible for one year or request a waiver due to special circumstances.”

Jaco wouldn’t release any more information about the athlete or the specific circumstances surrounding the violation.

It appears Alvin, which had tied Clear Creek for the third and final playoff berth, will take Ball High’s place in Friday’s game. Clear Creek is still scheduled to play Deer Park at 7:30 p.m. Friday in Pasadena.

Ball High football coach Ron Holmes said he learned about the decision at 3 p.m. Wednesday, just before the team was scheduled to leave the school and practice at District Stadium in League City, where the playoff game was to have taken place.

Holmes said it was difficult to tell his players their season was over.

“That was very hard, and all of them burst into tears,” Holmes said. “Hell, I burst into tears also. These kids worked too hard to be in a situation like that and get knocked out.

“It was just like a time bomb.”

Ball High senior Marcus Littleton said Jaco informed the team about the decision while players were watching game video.

“That’s when everybody just started acting crazy, throwing chairs and stuff,” Littleton said. “It hurt.”

While no one would name the ineligible student, the players do know which player was ineligible. Littleton said the team doesn’t blame that player for the forfeits.

“We’ve been trying to lift him up,” Littleton said. “He thinks it’s all on him, but we’ve been trying to lift him up, telling him it’s not all his fault.”

The forfeits were especially tough since this season was a bounce back from last year’s disappointing 2-8 record.

“We came back and turned it around, working hard in the summer and stuff,” Littleton said. “It all went down the drain.”

[Finish The Drill]

I know they are out of the playoffs - but I was referring his statement that there were 10 violations - it was one. They forefit 10 games - not because of 10 players

[CLFalcon2006]

This is pathetic penalizing the whole team for one kid. That is a really good group of guys over there and they have worked so hard to get to the playoffs. They actually were going to do some damage in the playoffs, now Laporte pretty much has a bye with Alvin.

Is there anyway we can change the prediction brackets?

[caesarscott]

somebody on that team had to know that kid didn't live in the district. that's just old fashioned cheating.

the ones i feel sorry for are those other teams in their district. they get an extra win, but if the cheater didnt get to play for Galveston and they'd had that win in the season, then what would have that done for those teams seasons? might have provided an extra push for the 5th or 6th place team to turn on a streak.

[Redneckn]

I'll bet if they can get ahold of our friend up at Carter they can advise them on this type of thing...

[augisdoggies]

Latest news is that La Porte will play Alvin Saturday night versus Friday night. Galveston Ball is looking for a temporary injunction to allow GB to play La Porte Friday night.

Doesn't look like they will get it.

[dragonsdaddy]

Latest news is that La Porte will play Alvin Saturday night versus Friday night. Galveston Ball is looking for a temporary injunction to allow GB to play La Porte Friday night.

Doesn't look like they will get it.
maybe they found the carter lawyers afterall.

[LoboFan07]

Something like this happened to 4A's Whitehouse and Jacksonville this year.

Jacksonville was told about it the day of a game. All they had to do to make the playoffs was win and they were told the day of the game that they would have to forfeit all their wins.

Whitehouse was on their way to atleast challenging for a playoff spot but didn't get that chance.

Of course Longview's Pine Tree High School was going 0-10 until these two teams had to forfeit and for that they're 2-8 (dang it).

Horrible.

[ktCarl]

So what is Alvin's win-loss record this season?

[Oiler99]

he didnt live out of district jus didnt sit out his year b4 playin uil sports

[Red Raiders]

Are we allowed to say Galveston Balls? Not Ball? LOL

[augisdoggies]

So what is Alvin's win-loss record this season?

They lost the tie breaker to Clear Creek for the 3rd place spot in their district. I believe their over-all record is 4-6.

[augisdoggies]

From today's (Friday) Houston Chronicle:

Playoffs hang in limbo for Alvin, Ball


They had packed up their equipment. They were done for the season.

Then, on Wednesday afternoon, the Alvin Yellow Jackets were told to get their team together and get ready because they were playing a playoff game this week.

With Galveston Ball forced to forfeit all of its victories for using an ineligible player, the Tornadoes lost their spot and the need for a fourth team from District 24-5A arose. Since the Yellow Jackets (4-6, 3-3) were technically the fourth-place team, they got in.

But now there's still hope for Ball. A District 24-5A executive committee meeting will be held today, and Ball will begin an appeals process to try to restore the player's eligibility, their eight wins and their berth in the playoffs.

"We really felt that having to forfeit all of our games is tragic for the players that have worked so hard," Galveston ISD athletic director Brent Jaco said. "We wanted to work towards an appeals process. We found a mistake (regarding the player's residency) and we didn't know about it. We feel this kid should have been eligible beforehand and now we want to go back."

If the committee rules in favor of Ball, the committee and the school's superintendent can jointly request a retroactive waiver from the University Interscholastic League to restore the player's eligibility. A UIL waiver officer can make a non-binding ruling after reviewing the facts of the case; after that, it would be sent to the UIL's Waiver Review Board for a final decision.

However, according to UIL athletic coordinator Mark Cousins, it would be difficult to convene a waiver board meeting before the scheduled game time. If the appeal makes it to that point, it is possible that Ball could be restored to play its playoff game temporarily. The earliest a final decision could come would be Monday.

Meanwhile, the Yellow Jackets continue their preparations for La Porte in the first round of the Class 5A Division II Region III playoffs.

While Alvin coach Michael Bass says he's preparing his team to play the Bulldogs until he's told otherwise, Ball coach Ron Holmes is hoping his players get another chance.

"My main thing is that I'm thinking about these kids," Holmes said. "Everybody's trying to find out what's going to happen. All I can do is put it in God's hands."