Lufkin?

[vette25_88]

Are the Panthers falling off or is it just me? I was present at both Tyler/Lufkin games and they seem like they're hanging on by a thread. They run the same screen play every 5 downs and it don't work, recievers can't seem to catch, and Jeffery just ain't cutting it. Sure he's had maybe three good throws down field but still not consistent. I know I'll probably get ragged on for saying all this but its just my honest opinion being a Lufkin fan.

[LP04]

Ehh yes and no. So far they havnt looked to good (except for second half against tyler lee). But think your reasons are competly backwards. Im rly impressed with the receivers this year, coming in with no starters back they are doing tons better than i expected. Did you miss the great 1 handed catch Trimble got? and Casey Jones seems to always find a way to get open, he was a little slow against John Tyler, they got a good hit on him at some point and he was half limping the second half of the game, but hes kinda small anyway so doubt he gets alot of yards after catch ever.

And Claybon had one of the best games ive seen him play, and a good one for any QB we have had at Lufkin against Tyler lee. He was off against john tyler, but he also had the hell pounded out of him all night long.

We need work on Oline, consistancy, and returns/kickoffs and im a little disappointed at the way the O has been playing, they just cant seem to get a long drive going. But I wont get rly rly worried till Longview. Its game 4, a rivalry game, and a good team to play against. For now a win is a win even if its an ugly one, but come that game I expect to get a good idea how district/playoffs will go.

[Favpack]

Lufkin is 2 for 8 right now, as in they've played 8 quarters and looked good in 2 of them.

That won't cut it for too long. But, I credit JT and Lee for playing us dang hard - I think that helps long term. But, yeah, you're not imagining things - LP's middle name is inconsistent - and has been for a full year now.

[pack98]

I am not to happy with the play of the Pack. I will give them credit for not melting against Lee and coming back and playing a great second half. JT well that game should have been a blow out but then again when you are playing Lufkin vs old district foes anything can happen there is lots of hate towards those games and lots of smack talk. I am looking forward to seeing how Lufkin plays against the Lobos and Mesquite that will say alot of what will take place this season in district.

Our D is playing very good and they need to keep it up. I like the play of the WR and the QB. to me the weak link is the O line and with out them you cant win so they need to pick it up and more teams will just keep bringing the blitz so they better learn in a hurry to pick up the blitz. and our RB has to run harder and hold on the ball.

With all this I am happy that they are 2-0 and have 8 more games left to get better for the playoffs.

[The Wood]

How's McFarland doing?

[99cujo]

Lufkin is still Lufkin a win is still a win Lufkin will be hard to beat. D is too good and keep them in games QB is a winner do give on them yet. I wish we was 2-0 in close games instead of 0-2 and I know alot of other teams as well.

[eagleswoop#1]

I am not to happy with the play of the Pack. I will give them credit for not melting against Lee and coming back and playing a great second half. JT well that game should have been a blow out but then again when you are playing Lufkin vs old district foes anything can happen there is lots of hate towards those games and lots of smack talk. I am looking forward to seeing how Lufkin plays against the Lobos and Mesquite that will say alot of what will take place this season in district.

Our D is playing very good and they need to keep it up. I like the play of the WR and the QB. to me the weak link is the O line and with out them you cant win so they need to pick it up and more teams will just keep bringing the blitz so they better learn in a hurry to pick up the blitz. and our RB has to run harder and hold on the ball.

With all this I am happy that they are 2-0 and have 8 more games left to get better for the playoffs.

Congrats on the wins, but they got to get it together before they play the Woodlands. It's Lufkins district to lose.

[Favpack]

How's McFarland doing?

Despite alot of double teaming - JaMarkus is reeking more havoc than ever. He's got about 12 tackes - 4 for losses.

He won't have daunting numbers at the end of the year - just because the attention he receives. It's unfortunate we don't have an all-state caliber lb behind him - if we did he'd get 18 tackles a game.

[gtee2]

Excuse me...does anyone remember the round robin format LP, Longview, JT, and Lee played a few years back? All of those games were pretty tough. You have just played two of those teams and got the 3rd on the way. Old 12-5a fans know records dont matter with us four. Ya'll have better insight on your team than I do so maybe I dont know what I'm talking bout but I wouldn't be to worried bout LP's struggles right now. We all look bad when we play each other(old 12 5-a).:notworthy

[KLH75287]

I've not seen The Pack yet this year, but have only listened to the radio broadcast and read post here. It sounds to me like the team is a repeat of last year's squad with struggling offense, and a strong D. With that being said, it sounds as if they can get the intangibles in line and start making a few more plays here and there, they'll be contenders. If not then I think their district run may well come to an end, much less any chance of a deep trip into the playoffs.

Hopefully the O will pick it up and gel soon. If they don't run all over Nac this week, then I'm thinking they are in for a long season full of disappointments.

[gtee2]

My point exactly! Nac is a rivalry just like the others. LP might and should win but it will be hard fought. IMO, the teams in their district need to be worried and not pay much attention 2 the stats and more attention to who LP has played! Guantlet first half schedule!:notworthy

[sweetpea]

For all the Lp fans, I think everything is going to be all right. :confused:

1. The team is playing stronger teams than other years past before the break up.;)

2. If I was Coach O., I would be trying to peak this team to early( other words, not open the play book):rolleyes:

3. Having to fight for those wins, can only keep them humble( remember what he had to deal with when they blew out Klein, then they came out flat the next week in the playoffs):mad:


This team is a 98 team , playing in this year. I said it before the season, and I will live by it. As long as they have to fight for every win, they will be humble. If things come easy, they will get the big head. Now, with that being said, the district has came along way. We need that push , they will know how to react when things are not completely aright.

[LP04]

For all the Lp fans, I think everything is going to be all right. :confused:

1. The team is playing stronger teams than other years past before the break up.;)

2. If I was Coach O., I would be trying to peak this team to early( other words, not open the play book):rolleyes:

3. Having to fight for those wins, can only keep them humble( remember what he had to deal with when they blew out Klein, then they came out flat the next week in the playoffs):mad:


This team is a 98 team , playing in this year. I said it before the season, and I will live by it. As long as they have to fight for every win, they will be humble. If things come easy, they will get the big head. Now, with that being said, the district has came along way. We need that push , they will know how to react when things are not completely aright.

I wouldnt say im down on this years team yet. They are playing as well right now as they were at the end of last year. That sounds bad in that they didnt play great last year, but its only the 2nd week they still have plenty of time to improve further. and we have had ALOT of positives on offense.

Receivers have shown they can make catches, do they still need work yes, but I think we have plenty of talent out there.
Claybon is looking more confident and acting more like a leader, he got shook up bad against john tyler who came prepared after what he did to tyler lee and as a result they beat the hell out of him all night, but he still looks better than last year.
Tre'von finally stepped up this last game and showed what he can do, hopefully it isnt a fluke and he keeps doing whatever he did to get him playing like that.
Don't rly think anyone can complain to much about the D, they are still falling for the same plays lufkin always does, and still trying to arm tackle a little to much, but they have played plenty hard and are the reason lufkin is 2-0 and not 0-2.
Byler's punts are actually rly good, we still need work on kickoffs, but not worried at all about punts.

Only real question is the O line, and i do belive we have a great coach for that. Its up to the players to show the dedication to get out there and improve.

I am a little worried about the team peaking late (or never peaking). I know from a strategy standpoint opening up the playbook later and all that is better for district/playoffs, but i think 95% of Lufkin would agree we rly rly rly want to beat Longview in Longview this year and that games is only 2 weeks away.

[sweetpea]

I wouldnt say im down on this years team yet. They are playing as well right now as they were at the end of last year. That sounds bad in that they didnt play great last year, but its only the 2nd week they still have plenty of time to improve further. and we have had ALOT of positives on offense.

Receivers have shown they can make catches, do they still need work yes, but I think we have plenty of talent out there.
Claybon is looking more confident and acting more like a leader, he got shook up bad against john tyler who came prepared after what he did to tyler lee and as a result they beat the hell out of him all night, but he still looks better than last year.
Tre'von finally stepped up this last game and showed what he can do, hopefully it isnt a fluke and he keeps doing whatever he did to get him playing like that.
Don't rly think anyone can complain to much about the D, they are still falling for the same plays lufkin always does, and still trying to arm tackle a little to much, but they have played plenty hard and are the reason lufkin is 2-0 and not 0-2.
Byler's punts are actually rly good, we still need work on kickoffs, but not worried at all about punts.

Only real question is the O line, and i do belive we have a great coach for that. Its up to the players to show the dedication to get out there and improve.

I am a little worried about the team peaking late (or never peaking). I know from a strategy standpoint opening up the playbook later and all that is better for district/playoffs, but i think 95% of Lufkin would agree we rly rly rly want to beat Longview in Longview this year and that games is only 2 weeks away.



If we can beat Longview without opening up the play book, then we will be better off later down the road. Lp fans are use to comming out of gate with a blaze , and what's been happening is we have peaked to early.


That is why Coach O, tried to get the best pre games possible without going to far. Our old district was war every week, and that's what we need.

[pack4life]

I can only go by what you guys post on here and some of my friends I've talked to back in Lufkin. I've yet to see a game but will be there for homecoming (College Park?) and I'll most definitely be there on Nov.1st at Woodforest.

From what I've heard, this sounds a lot like last years team. I was hoping Claybon would consistently perform well for four quarters this year with a year of experience under his belt, but all I've heard is he is an improved runner but still lives and dies by the big pass play. Also from what I understand, we aren't putting together drives but rather scoring off of turnovers and big plays, which always spells disaster.

[EasTex10]

C'mon now, it's not the play of Claybon that's the problem. The O-line did a fair job (improved over last week), but the RB's have also got to help out in picking up the blitz. JT came out in a predominate blitz package on D, which will only help to mature this young O-line down the road. This young line will take time to mature, but I saw a lot of hustle on their part and think they will be good. Lewis has a big game rushing and not because he was busting through gang tackles...running lanes were created and he burst through them. Calybon was off a little on his passing, and they were keying on him running the ball. I still think he can and will get the job done!

I have missed very few games in the past 9 years and I'll admit that I too have been spoiled with the Panthers jumping on teams early and hard, but things have changed over the past couple of years. BUT WE ARE STILL WINNING!!

I would like to see the play calling open up a bit as it is too predicatable? Use the TE - we have a great one! Throw to the back out of the backfield 5-10yds deep (we have 2 good RB's). Go to a 2-back set on occasion - mix it up!!! Lufkin has the talent and IMO just needs to find some consistency on O then they will be very tough to beat.

A lot of hype about nothing at this point in the season...give it some time! If it doesn't get any better then just cheer'em on anyway.

[DragonFan0316]

Can't believe I hear doubt out of the GREAT Lufkin faithful. The purple nation is 2-0 and the team will get better. Bet we see you in December.

[Favpack]

C'mon now, it's not the play of Claybon that's the problem. The O-line did a fair job (improved over last week), but the RB's have also got to help out in picking up the blitz. JT came out in a predominate blitz package on D, which will only help to mature this young O-line down the road. This young line will take time to mature, but I saw a lot of hustle on their part and think they will be good. Lewis has a big game rushing and not because he was busting through gang tackles...running lanes were created and he burst through them. Calybon was off a little on his passing, and they were keying on him running the ball. I still think he can and will get the job done!

I have missed very few games in the past 9 years and I'll admit that I too have been spoiled with the Panthers jumping on teams early and hard, but things have changed over the past couple of years. BUT WE ARE STILL WINNING!!

I would like to see the play calling open up a bit as it is too predicatable? Use the TE - we have a great one! Throw to the back out of the backfield 5-10yds deep (we have 2 good RB's). Go to a 2-back set on occasion - mix it up!!! Lufkin has the talent and IMO just needs to find some consistency on O then they will be very tough to beat.

A lot of hype about nothing at this point in the season...give it some time! If it doesn't get any better then just cheer'em on anyway.

You make some good, valid points that I generally agree with. Here's the bottom, bottom line gang. If we can't consistently score 28 points - week in and week out against a good or bad team - we're not going to go where we want to go.

That was the issue last year -and it has lingered on. And, the troubling thing is - it seems to be something different every week. But, I do like the leadership from Claybon - he needs to lead in good times AND bad - that is an issue. I think we basically go as far as he can take us. The line will come around some, the rb will be ok, or wr's will be dangerous every week - but we need consistency of scoring somewhere - and that is Jeffrey.

[pack4life]

It just seems to me that the same things Lufkin struggled with last season have carried over to this season.

[sweetpea]

You have to look out side of the box,

1.playing old district foes( games will be closer) ,:eek:

2. Their is better UNITY within the team,:D


3. Lp still have that bull eye on their back, :ninja:


Coach O has done what he need to do, know let's see if the kids can show it in the playoffs.

Like i said in another post, I will take a close win any day with hopes of being a better team in the playoffs. Those kids have did nothing but show HEART! :notworthy

[pack4life]

You have to look out side of the box,

1.playing old district foes( games will be closer) ,:eek:

2. Their is better UNITY within the team,:D


3. Lp still have that bull eye on their back, :ninja:


Coach O has done what he need to do, know let's see if the kids can show it in the playoffs.

Like i said in another post, I will take a close win any day with hopes of being a better team in the playoffs. Those kids have did nothing but show HEART! :notworthy

I hope you're right, and I hope we get things straight. No doubt about it there is loads of talent on this team, we just have to string together four quarters of football against a quality opponent. If Lufkin played every game like we played the 2nd half of the Tyler Lee game, LP would be steamrolling just about everyone they played. That gave us a peak at the potential this Pack team has, and now it's all about realizing that potential and striving for it. I sure do miss the other team not returning kicks though;)

[EasTex10]

It just seems to me that the same things Lufkin struggled with last season have carried over to this season.

I agrees, it does seem that way, but the O worked a lot to diversify the offense over the offseason and have yet to really utilize it? Added a TE and supposedly added the 2-back set? You'd be amazed at how well a young line will mature when the defense is on their heels and guessing:eek:

I agree with Favpack that the QB must take leadership of the team, but you still have to spread the ball around more. Especially with the talent pool of Lufkin, and yes it is still there;) Use all of the weapons! That is why the Wishbone and Wing T were effective for years, you had to defend too much, and yes, you had to have the right personnel.

I can well remember every game with SLC and how great they are at moving the ball around - absolutely killed us with that intermediate pass to the RB out of the backfield, then boom hit us with the long ball. The deep ball and passing game open up much more when you tranquilize the blitz (short pass), then the running games opens when the LB's have to move back or drop into a zone coverage, etc...We run bubble screen R and L and when that don't work we try to run? IMO that needs to change and if i does look out!!

Maybe this is yet to come so I'll just be a supportive fan and cheer'em on!

[pack4life]

I agrees, it does seem that way, but the O worked a lot to diversify the offense over the offseason and have yet to really utilize it? Added a TE and supposedly added the 2-back set? You'd be amazed at how well a young line will mature when the defense is on their heels and guessing:eek:

I agree with Favpack that the QB must take leadership of the team, but you still have to spread the ball around more. Especially with the talent pool of Lufkin, and yes it is still there;) Use all of the weapons! That is why the Wishbone and Wing T were effective for years, you had to defend too much, and yes, you had to have the right personnel.

I can well remember every game with SLC and how great they are at moving the ball around - absolutely killed us with that intermediate pass to the RB out of the backfield, then boom hit us with the long ball. The deep ball and passing game open up much more when you tranquilize the blitz (short pass), then the running games opens when the LB's have to move back or drop into a zone coverage, etc...We run bubble screen R and L and when that don't work we try to run? IMO that needs to change and if i does look out!!

Maybe this is yet to come so I'll just be a supportive fan and cheer'em on!

I haven't heard they added a two back set, but if they did that will be a good weapon come district time against an opponent who may have not seen it yet. I've heard the tight end has been open in the seam almost then entire game, but Claybon isn't hitting him (for whatever reason, maybe he's just not used to reading the TE yet, but that could very well change with plenty of film work and game situations). The TE is a very underrated aspect of the offense and I for one am glad we are implementing one back into the offense.

[LoboFan07]

Lufkin is still Lufkin.

As long as they have Outlaw at the head coaching spot, they will be a factor in the playoffs. And that's really all you can ask for out of HS guys.

Good luck to Lp next week against Nac. See y'all soon. ;)

[packfan22]

Can't believe I hear doubt out of the GREAT Lufkin faithful. The purple nation is 2-0 and the team will get better. Bet we see you in December.

The talent level has fallen off the last two years. It happens too all teams sooner or later. We don,t have a that o- line play ,and running back to take over a game, the recievers are young, no Dez type this year.

You will see us in December,but I think we may be in the stands, if they don,t get it together:(

[PackAttack2005]

Yes, talent level falls off for everyone sooner or later. Lufkin has slipped a little, but Katy has had a big drop off from last year. They will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. Those Tiger fans have got to be sick right now.

I can assure you one thing, as long as Coach Outlaw is at Lufkin he won't get beat 47-0. Don't worry about this team, this young offense is very talented and has some speed at WR. The O-line will get better and by district will give everyone, even The Woodlands all they want.

[sweetpea]

Yes, talent level falls off for everyone sooner or later. Lufkin has slipped a little, but Katy has had a big drop off from last year. They will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. Those Tiger fans have got to be sick right now.

I can assure you one thing, as long as Coach Outlaw is at Lufkin he won't get beat 47-0. Don't worry about this team, this young offense is very talented and has some speed at WR. The O-line will get better and by district will give everyone, even The Woodlands all they want.


The talent has not drop that much, it's more of playing together to help out each other. I believe those kids are going to shut up alot of people. :D