Tyler John Tyler QB Kerry Maddox

[owlbandad]

JT fans, how good a passer is your quarterback? Dallas Morning News lists his season as 63-108-4 for 814 yds and 6 TD. Sounds like a running team to me.

BUT THIS IS WRONG. Three games are missing from these numbers, the ones DMN doesn't have box scores for, Texarkana Texas High, Port Arthur Memorial, and Kilgore. So can anyone tell us the real numbers?

Also does anyone know how common these bogus statistics are?

owlbandad

[CO99JTHS]

Well...You posed a really good question. The answer isn't how good a passer is Kerry but how good of an athlete is he? The stats that you mentioned are VERY, VERY misleading. All 3 of the games that you mentioned were missing are games where JT rushed for well over 100+ yds in each due to the fact of them having star tailback Kendall Hunter. Honestly, as Kendall went, JT went. Once Kendall went down around week 5, as Kerry went we went. I'll say that when Hunter went down he took at least 75 percent of our offense with him with Kerry shouldering the other 25 percent. Now, Kerry's more like 80 percent of our "O". We still have athletes at all positions so teams without plenty of athletes have to remain honest. Longview didn't have to sell out to stop him and therefore we struggled. As he goes, we go. With a healthy Hunter, 3 rounds deep in the playoffs would not be a stretch.
Also, most of those games were played without our big play 6'4 reciever Earnest Smith. I think he could be at least top 5 in the state. He is VERY, VERY, VERY, physical and absolutely punishes smaller db's in the run game. Problem is..Kerry has only been a qb for one season. I think he struggles big time reading defenses. If you all confuse him, you'll win. If not...you'll lose and probably look pretty bad in the process. Some of the escapes this kid makes are "Michael Vick like". He's been playin hurt the past 4-5 games though but still very effective. Injuries really have hurt us this year. We should be lining up 3 very good recievers, a bluechip tailback and a really dangerous dual threat QB. This offense could have been very explosive. Now, we kinda just let Kerry manage things and allow the defense to dominate the other teams.
Sooo....to answer your question..I don't know how good a passer he is. I don't think anyone knows. He has not played enough QB to make an accurate asessment. The one game he was really on...was against Mesquite. Look at those stats and that'll tell you how dominant he can be. Multiply those numbers by 2 because he wore a boot the whole 2nd half. Also, keep in mind he did that without a running game. He just makes plays. Longview done a very good job with him but I can't imagine another HS team having the personel to do that. I could be wrong. I'm hoping for the best but I think as far as making a deep playoff run, we really set up better for next year. Agreed, Cujo?? Hope that helped. Good Luck!! Let's also, remember they're just kids.

[Cujo]

JT fans, how good a passer is your quarterback? Dallas Morning News lists his season as 63-108-4 for 814 yds and 6 TD. Sounds like a running team to me.

BUT THIS IS WRONG. Three games are missing from these numbers, the ones DMN doesn't have box scores for, Texarkana Texas High, Port Arthur Memorial, and Kilgore. So can anyone tell us the real numbers?

Also does anyone know how common these bogus statistics are?

owlbandad
Kerry's up to date numbers:

Passing: 91-161-6 for 1168 yds, 9 TDs, 52t Lg.
Rushing: 128 for 753, 5.9 avg, 10 TDs, 69t Lg.


And on a side note -

Ernest Smith's receiving numbers through just 5 games:

18 recs, 257 yds, 14.3 avg, 3 TDs, 45t Lg.
Leads team in receptions (tied), yards and touchdowns.

[pack0808]

Kerry's up to date numbers:

Passing: 91-161-6 for 1168 yds, 9 TDs, 52t Lg.
Rushing: 128 for 753, 5.9 avg, 10 TDs, 69t Lg.


And on a side note -

Ernest Smith's receiving numbers through just 5 games:

18 recs, 257 yds, 14.3 avg, 3 TDs, 45t Lg.
Leads team in receptions (tied), yards and touchdowns.


How many int's??

[Cujo]

I'm hoping for the best but I think as far as making a deep playoff run, we really set up better for next year. Agreed, Cujo??
I'm not quite so sure. The only starters we'll have returning next year are: C Charles Jett, RT Marquise Franklin, RB Kendall Hunter and RB/DE Leland Malina on offense and DL Jonathan Blackshire on defense.

That's only 5 starters, and virtually none of the defense that has won the majority of our games. The offense will be our strength next year, seeing how 2 RBs and the middle of the OL will be coming back, but I think it'll take on more of the traditional running style that we're accustomed to at JT, especially if Derrell Allen is going to be the QB. Allen probably has better speed and mobility then Maddox (and will be a better running QB than Kerry with experience), but Allen has shown me NOTHING with his passing game. Maybe 7 on 7 will help next spring, but again, I think most of the damage will be done by the legs of Allen, Hunter, and perhaps Malina at FB, but we'd have to get out of the spread for that.

The question is, how are we going to reload on defense. Due to the speed at JT, we always have at least an average to above average defense, but I'm not sure who the playmakers will be next year. Maybe someone like Roderick Warren (6'2" 195) will set up at linebacker.

But the deeper we go into the playoffs, and any garbage time we're able to get, will only help us for next season. I'm just not as optimistic that we'll have the same surprising success as this year, but I also think this coaching staff has proven that they can perform miracles in just a year's time. But I'll be hoping for the best and I guess we'll see what'll happen....

[Cujo]

How many int's??
6 INTs - 2 of them happened in the Longview game.

[Red Raiders]

6 INTs - 2 of them happened in the Longview game.

Not good....

[BigArab]

6 INTs - 2 of them happened in the Longview game.

3 of them happened in Longview's game.

[Cujo]

3 of them happened in Longview's game.
I was talking about Kerry Maddox's interceptions.

Kerry had 2 and Allen had the other one in Longview's game

[owlbandad]

Thanks CUJO. It makes a lot more sense now. I'd say you guys have been dissed by the Dallas Morning News. I could understand if they just left you out. They can't cover everybody. But they ought to know better and care more than to publish stuff that just isn't so.

see y'all Saturday,

owlbandad

[bleedgreen]

this guy is really good...very quick, elusive moves in the open field--can stop and cut on a dime!! if you do not "contain" him, he will be running for days...can't comment on the passing game...only thing i remember last friday was him throwing the 2 pics....he's tough, though...saw him take multiple vicious hits during the game...i think in the 3rd that the licks started taking its toll................JT will be fired up for this one...wish i could watch this one, but we have a score to settle across town ;)

[Cujo]

Thanks CUJO. It makes a lot more sense now. I'd say you guys have been dissed by the Dallas Morning News. I could understand if they just left you out. They can't cover everybody. But they ought to know better and care more than to publish stuff that just isn't so.

see y'all Saturday,

owlbandad
You're welcome.

and trust me, we here in East Texas are very used to the treatment and lack of respect we receive from the DMN, but now we (or at least I) just take their resentment as a compliment. :)

[Owls06]

I think Safety #4 John Murphy would have a field day with any quarterback in the open field. Not to mention Devin McDowell #6. They will dash to the QB so fast that he wish he had not run. I can already hear the bubble. Just hope it doesn't pop.

[CO99JTHS]

It should be fun....He's tough to handle in the open field. He's literally frozen quite a few guys on options and bootlegs. Should be fun though...I can't wait. :)

[Redneckn]

His stats are not overly impressive as far as passing goes. If he got robbed 3 times in the Longview game, he will be in trouble for the playoffs.
JT better keep it on the ground or that kid will "throw" the game away.

[CO99JTHS]

HA!!!.. Do your research first. Anywayz, I'm sure Kerry would be glad to know that his name is the title of a thread on a statewide message board/website. That's gotta help for recognition. You all will be well aquainted with him around 5 o'clock saturday and all questions will be answered. He obviously has someone's attention, so he must be doing something right.

[bleedgreen]

HA!!!.. Do your research first. Anywayz, I'm sure Kerry would be glad to know that his name is the title of a thread on a statewide message board/website. That's gotta help for recognition. You all will be well aquainted with him around 5 o'clock saturday and all questions will be answered. He obviously has someone's attention, so he must be doing something right.
yea, he had our attention...but, i believe last friday that we got his attention--LOL...just a joke, brother....i like Garland alot, great program and very respectful fans, but i'm pulling for my East Texas brethren all the way....good luck..should be a great game...good luck to Garland, as well........sincerely, Bleedgreen

[Owls06]

yea, he had our attention...but, i believe last friday that we got his attention--LOL...just a joke, brother....i like Garland alot, great program and very respectful fans, but i'm pulling for my East Texas brethren all the way....good luck..should be a great game...good luck to Garland, as well........sincerely, Bleedgreen

AS do i, hope to see a Great Game! Those East Texas teams give great opening round competition. GL To both teams.. NO Injuries! Game time is close!!

[owlbandad]

HA!!!.. Do your research first. Anywayz, I'm sure Kerry would be glad to know that his name is the title of a thread on a statewide message board/website. That's gotta help for recognition. You all will be well aquainted with him around 5 o'clock saturday and all questions will be answered. He obviously has someone's attention, so he must be doing something right.

Don't get too excited. The reason I started this thread is that the Dallas paper didn't think it was worth the trouble to get his numbers right. His corrected stats do look much better but they are by no means terrifying.

His rushing numbers (753 yds) don't compare favorably with Andre Pierce (2040 yds) from Rowlett whom we did pretty well against two weeks ago, or even with Michael Woods (835 yds) from one win Naaman Forest.

His passing numbers (1168 yds) are likewise unremarkable.
Maddox isn't as good a passer as any of these guys...

Josh Phillips, Sachse 169-305-7 2357 yd 20 td
Daren Dillard, Gar. Lakeview 122-239-6 2118 yd 13 td
Adrian Linwood, North Garland 93-197-8 1642 yd 12 td
Eric Hill, Rowlett 110-165-3 1449 yd 13 td
Nick Florence, South Garland 102-183-5 1445 yd 10 td

and none of them were good enough to get it done against the Owls.

Of course we'll see whether any of this means anything on Saturday.

best regards,

owlbandad

[GarlandOwl06]

The only difference is he has a bigger and better supporting cast to match up against us more evenly

[gtownowlfootball06]

Thanks for the voice of reason. All those Garland fans out there saw what the option from an athletic QB did to us in the DeSoto game. We bottled it up pretty well against Carter, but they still broke a few. This is the one thing about the game that scares me, but I expect it to be close, just as the DeSoto and Carter games were. We could easily have one both of those games, but we couldn't hold onto the ball against Desoto and couldn't captilize on Carter not being able to in the 4th quarter. If we can avoid turnovers, force some, and capitalize on them, it should be a pretty smooth game.

[gtownowlfootball06]

Don't get too excited. The reason I started this thread is that the Dallas paper didn't think it was worth the trouble to get his numbers right. His corrected stats do look much better but they are by no means terrifying.

His rushing numbers (753 yds) don't compare favorably with Andre Pierce (2040 yds) from Rowlett whom we did pretty well against two weeks ago, or even with Michael Woods (835 yds) from one win Naaman Forest.

His passing numbers (1168 yds) are likewise unremarkable.
Maddox isn't as good a passer as any of these guys...

Josh Phillips, Sachse 169-305-7 2357 yd 20 td
Daren Dillard, Gar. Lakeview 122-239-6 2118 yd 13 td
Adrian Linwood, North Garland 93-197-8 1642 yd 12 td
Eric Hill, Rowlett 110-165-3 1449 yd 13 td
Nick Florence, South Garland 102-183-5 1445 yd 10 td

and none of them were good enough to get it done against the Owls.

Of course we'll see whether any of this means anything on Saturday.

best regards,

owlbandad

But none of the guys you listed do both. For doing both in an offense in which he is often expected to just hand the ball off to another guy, those are good, balanced numbers.

[JoeC]

Here is the real difference in my opinion . . . In the LV game I think the coaching staff made some bad decisions. In the designed pass plays I believe Maddox attempted to pass 80/20 (80%) of the time. What happens if they change their strategy to 50/50 (50% deliberately designed QB runs) or 40/60 (60% designed runs from the QB position); consequently, he could have more opportunities to be running in the open field and if so, look out!! I am telling you, this kid is an athlete and can be dangerous (truely MichaelVicklike)!! I went to the JT vs TL game and saw this kid literally shake several of TL's DB's and LB's out of their skin (not their socks - he skinned them!!). . . His numbers are very deceiving . . . For their sake, I sure hope Garland doesn't make plans around these numbers; if so, they'll become very acquainted with the back of his jersey. That's just my opinion. Be :cool:

[Owls06]

JoeC has a very good point.

Remember the Sachse game? .. Our DEs would rush to the outside.. leaving a massive whole with two guys on Antwine. Phillips would just scamper up the middle for a quick 10 yards. Where were the LBs? They ran em off deep.. 5 Wide. Therefore, i think we need to contain this QB to get any kind of success and lots of defensive pressure.

[bleedgreen]

JoeC has a very good point.

Remember the Sachse game? .. Our DEs would rush to the outside.. leaving a massive whole with two guys on Antwine. Phillips would just scamper up the middle for a quick 10 yards. Where were the LBs? They ran em off deep.. 5 Wide. Therefore, i think we need to contain this QB to get any kind of success and lots of defensive pressure.
you are exactly right, Owls06.....Maddox likes to scamper right up the middle when there is a hole...i don't know that much about the guy from Sachse that you referred to, but i would be willing to wager that Maddox is probably 10 times the athlete he is.....................

[Owls06]

It would be safe to classify Phillips as a Moving Large White guy. He was the leading district/area passer for a bit I believe.. and then Sachse played real schools in the district. But not a speed demon by any means.