Plano vs Desoto

[PWCF03]

Just wanted to see what people had to say. I know Desoto is really good this year. Plano started off really slow last week against Mac. I know it was the first game but Meager seemed to throwing really high. They seemed to hold Burkhead pretty well and lott I think had only a few catches. I was really surprised by the defense I really thought it was going to be a bigger question. Also it could have been that Mac's QB was not on target all night. I know one game doesn't define a season so Plano's D could be a question in the secondary. Look forward to a great game against a really good team. Does anybody know anything about Desoto?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

1st games are always a bit sloppy. The good thing Plano did was no turnovers and just a few penalities. The offense got on track in the second half. I think having Meger not play in game conditions in the scrimmage the week before against Mesquite showed in the first half. Remember though he was still 12-19 190 yards & 3 TD's with no INT's.

I think his numbers will get better due to the fact that teams are going to put 1 or 2 spies on burkhead on every play that is going to open up the offense as the season wears on.

The defense looks small but quick. I didn't understand why IMAC kept trying to run outside the tackes with no success when they should of been pounding the ball up the middle with their big oline and big back. Their QB was terrible. So IMO the Desoto game will give us a much clearer picture on our defense. Desoto has great speed and a darn good QB in soph Polite. He tore up Midland last week.

I expect Burkhead to have a big game.

[TrojanHorse03]

1st games are always a bit sloppy. The good thing Plano did was no turnovers and just a few penalities. The offense got on track in the second half. I think having Meger not play in game conditions in the scrimmage the week before against Mesquite showed in the first half. Remember though he was still 12-19 190 yards & 3 TD's with no INT's.

I think his numbers will get better due to the fact that teams are going to put 1 or 2 spies on burkhead on every play that is going to open up the offense as the season wears on.

The defense looks small but quick. I didn't understand why IMAC kept trying to run outside the tackes with no success when they should of been pounding the ball up the middle with their big oline and big back. Their QB was terrible. So IMO the Desoto game will give us a much clearer picture on our defense. Desoto has great speed and a darn good QB in soph Polite. He tore up Midland last week.

I expect Burkhead to have a big game.

I hate to say it but Desoto will do what it usually does under pressure.-fumble, turn the ball over, and lose their composure(5 fumbles last week, 2 lost, 1 for a Midland touchdown). I only say this because if it was just about talent year in year out they'd have as many state championships as anybody. Plano wins.

[Maxthedog]

It is going to be a great game. I will be there fosho!!!!
No predictions by Max, it's going to be a VERY entertaining game.

[StormingCowboy]

I think this game will be like the Plano/Skyline game in the playoffs last year.

[Maroondog]

Plano needs to tighten it up a bit from last week which I believe they will do. I think the Desoto speed will be a real test for the defense but we should be able to cope.

I really hope the offense is a LOT sharper than against IMAC. Even though it was the first game, I was a little dissapointed that they didn't look better.

However, all that being said, CATS WIN.

[d-train]

Just wanted to see what people had to say. I know Desoto is really good this year. Plano started off really slow last week against Mac. I know it was the first game but Meager seemed to throwing really high. They seemed to hold Burkhead pretty well and lott I think had only a few catches. I was really surprised by the defense I really thought it was going to be a bigger question. Also it could have been that Mac's QB was not on target all night. I know one game doesn't define a season so Plano's D could be a question in the secondary. Look forward to a great game against a really good team. Does anybody know anything about Desoto?
Why is Desoto really good this year?

[d-train]

I think this game will be like the Plano/Skyline game in the playoffs last year.
Blowout!

[NHB06]

I highly doubt that anyone wins this game in a blowout. However, I do believe that Plano wins a close one.

[PWCF03]

Why is Desoto really good this year?


I thought they beat Midland 48-0 but it was 48-28. Their passing and running game is strong. They have a really good coach. He will do really great things for that program.

-Marcus Murphy 10 - 128 yards

-Ryan Polite 12 -17 - 0 - 176 yards

Desoto racked up 448 yards against Midland.


Looks like they have a few weapons.



But....Plano has more :D

[AHSeagles]

I thought they beat Midland 48-0 but it was 48-28. Their passing and running game is strong. They have a really good coach. He will do really great things for that program.

-Marcus Murphy 10 - 128 yards

-Ryan Polite 12 -17 - 0 - 176 yards

Desoto racked up 448 yards against Midland.


Looks like they have a few weapons.



But....Plano has more :D

Not exactly a state power you're talking about.

[PWCF03]

Not exactly a state power you're talking about.

I think they will do very well this year. I don't consider Desoto a "state power". It is always a good way to start off the season with a W. I think Desoto will be a real test on Plano's secondary and how strong the line really is.

GO CATS!!! 8 IN 08.

[businesstron]

I think y'll over looking Desoto a little bit(which I'm not condemning because how many times they've choked in the past). I've notice that they seem to choke when the spotlight is on them.

I don't think that'll be the case this week. They gotta a new coach, an actual passing game and a good QB.

Plano Beware!!! Y'll have had troubles with teams from the Best Southwest recently. Desoto will probably self destruct but they'll still get their points. They are more talented and better coached then Irving Mac( I saw that game last week) Desoto was also better then Skyline last year and probably this year.

This is my potential upset of the week.......

[TrojanHorse03]

I think y'll over looking Desoto a little bit(which I'm not condemning because how many times they've choked in the past). I've notice that they seem to choke when the spotlight is on them.

I don't think that'll be the case this week. They gotta a new coach, an actual passing game and a good QB.

Plano Beware!!! Y'll have had troubles with teams from the Best Southwest recently. Desoto will probably self destruct but they'll still get their points. They are more talented and better coached then Irving Mac( I saw that game last week) Desoto was also better then Skyline last year and probably this year.

This is my potential upset of the week.......

They still put the ball on the turf too much to win this game imo.

[businesstron]

They still put the ball on the turf too much to win this game imo.


Yeah...but it was the first game of the season and they are running a new system. If Coach Mathis is as good as I think he is that problem will be corrected this week. The same goes with Cedar Hill too....they put the ball on the ground 3 or 4 times last week.

Desoto has choked when it mattered, sometimes against teams that they are supposed to beat. They in a favorable position going in against Plano...

Well see though....I wish i could see the game....

[eaglesflyhigher]

Yeah...but it was the first game of the season and they are running a new system. If Coach Mathis is as good as I think he is that problem will be corrected this week. The same goes with Cedar Hill too....they put the ball on the ground 3 or 4 times last week.

Desoto has choked when it mattered, sometimes against teams that they are supposed to beat. They in a favorable position going in against Plano...

Well see though....I wish i could see the game....

it will be broadcast on Ch. 21 tomorrow for those in the area, KVCE-AM 1160 radio.

I see your location is Bentonville, I'm just posting as general info for everyone.

[PWCF03]

Sorry AHSeagles I didn't see that you had Midland bolded . Yeah I have to agree with you there.

[paradox169]

Plano is known for there stamina, and burkhead only gets better as the game goes on. If Desoto is going to win there going to need to put there foot down on Planos running game early, but still wiht that said Plano also has very good passing game. Im going to have to go with Plano in a close one.

[PWCF03]

Plano is known for there stamina, and burkhead only gets better as the game goes on. If Desoto is going to win there going to need to put there foot down on Planos running game early, but still wiht that said Plano also has very good passing game. Im going to have to go with Plano in a close one.

One more thing... Meager is also a really good out of the pocket, pretty good runner.

It would be awesome to see Burkhead at QB on a few plays or have Meager hand it off to Burkhead and then Burkhead throws it to Meager in the endzone for a TD. That was a awesome game against Skyline.

[desotoeaglesgrad]

Here is my take on this game. First, let's ot compare this year's DeSoto team to the teams oached by Dave Meadows. To me what they did last week looked a lot more like what they did under the late Ben Dial. If they are going to go back to that style of play, then it will not surprise me if they also lose the choke tag (no one could say that about Coach Dial's teams). Second, this is just their second game under a new coach. They are still in the adjustment phase, so what they look like now may be completely different than what they look like come playoff time. Lastly, Midland may not be a state power, but they did lead 48-7 after 3 quarters. It's not like they were playing Arl. Sam Houston.

I do think Plano will win, but I would be surprised if it was a blowout.

I do have a question, though- there seems to be a lot of Plano fans that like to brag about how great the Wildcats are (with good reason). If you are one of them and claiming that DeSoto wil get blown out, will you post on here if DeSoto wins to congratulate them? :D

[PWCF03]

Here is my take on this game. First, let's ot compare this year's DeSoto team to the teams oached by Dave Meadows. To me what they did last week looked a lot more like what they did under the late Ben Dial. If they are going to go back to that style of play, then it will not surprise me if they also lose the choke tag (no one could say that about Coach Dial's teams). Second, this is just their second game under a new coach. They are still in the adjustment phase, so what they look like now may be completely different than what they look like come playoff time. Lastly, Midland may not be a state power, but they did lead 48-7 after 3 quarters. It's not like they were playing Arl. Sam Houston.

I do think Plano will win, but I would be surprised if it was a blowout.

I do have a question, though- there seems to be a lot of Plano fans that like to brag about how great the Wildcats are (with good reason). If you are one of them and claiming that DeSoto wil get blown out, will you post on here if DeSoto wins to congratulate them? :D


I try not to get a big head with my CATS. I know on any given night they can be knocked down. I think Desoto has a chance, I think they will really give us a really good test on our secondary and our OL. But yes I will come back on here and give props to Desoto if they win. Should be a great game.


GO CATS!!!

[desotoeaglesgrad]

I try not to get a big head with my CATS. I know on any given night they can be knocked down. I think Desoto has a chance, I think they will really give us a really good test on our secondary and our OL. But yes I will come back on here and give props to Desoto if they win. Should be a great game.


GO CATS!!!

I'm not knocking the Plano fans; most of them are great on here. This was more for the ones who seem to think that Plano can do no wrong. Believe me, I wish DeSoto had some state titles to brag about.

[texan_75010]

Plano by 6

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Here is my take on this game. First, let's ot compare this year's DeSoto team to the teams oached by Dave Meadows. To me what they did last week looked a lot more like what they did under the late Ben Dial. If they are going to go back to that style of play, then it will not surprise me if they also lose the choke tag (no one could say that about Coach Dial's teams). Second, this is just their second game under a new coach. They are still in the adjustment phase, so what they look like now may be completely different than what they look like come playoff time. Lastly, Midland may not be a state power, but they did lead 48-7 after 3 quarters. It's not like they were playing Arl. Sam Houston.

I do think Plano will win, but I would be surprised if it was a blowout.

I do have a question, though- there seems to be a lot of Plano fans that like to brag about how great the Wildcats are (with good reason). If you are one of them and claiming that DeSoto wil get blown out, will you post on here if DeSoto wins to congratulate them? :D

I am probally the biggest Plano homer on this board and I for one have not said anything about a blowout. Desoto is a talented bunch and with a new coach comes new excitment. I remember the 1st round of the 2005 Playoffs. Plano was 10-0 and Desoto 6-4 & Plano squeaked out a 17-14 come from behind win. So I expect a high scoring game with Plano coming out on top but it will be close.

[desotoeaglesgrad]

I am probally the biggest Plano homer on this board and I for one have not said anything about a blowout. Desoto is a talented bunch and with a new coach comes new excitment. I remember the 1st round of the 2005 Playoffs. Plano was 10-0 and Desoto 6-4 & Plano squeaked out a 17-14 come from behind win. So I expect a high scoring game with Plano coming out on top but it will be close.

Again, not a knock on most Plano fans... It's just a few, just lik with the other great prograns in the state.

Plano wins 38-35

[d-train]

I thought they beat Midland 48-0 but it was 48-28. Their passing and running game is strong. They have a really good coach. He will do really great things for that program.

-Marcus Murphy 10 - 128 yards

-Ryan Polite 12 -17 - 0 - 176 yards

Desoto racked up 448 yards against Midland.


Looks like they have a few weapons.



But....Plano has more :D
There is a good HS team in Midland?

[PWCF03]

Not that I am aware of... I think if you rack up 448 yards of total offense against a team they sure don't have a very good D. Maybe next year d-train. I am sorry to disappoint. Although there is a really good team in Plano. I think they are the Plano Wildcats, you should check em out. :D

[Onside Kick]

DeSoto keeps it close early, but self destructs late in the game. Plano 31 Desoto 21. I like that DeSoto's coach isn't afraid to schedule difficult games early in the season. DeSoto has another tough one next week vs. up and coming Berkner.

[PlanoNative]

I was unable to make the Plano game last week or obviously listen on the radio. How one of the state's marquee, winningest all-time programs isn't on the radio every week still puzzles me.

Aside from that rant, from what I've heard I-Mac did more self-destructing than Plano just dominating them. I'm very interested in this game tonight. It will tell a lot about the rest of the year for both teams. I understand Plano is smaller on D this year and that is worrisome heading into district play and eventually playing someone like Trinity (if they make it that far). It's great to get a good look tonight on the tube.

I'll take a very uneducated guess.. Cats 28 Eagles 25.

[mojoman21]

i saw highlights of the game against midland on tv, and desoto definetly has some athletes. that score really surprised me.

[AllenFan09]

As good as Desoto seems to be this year, I don't think they will put much pressure into the state power of Plano. Plano by 10-14

[Butch Fifield]

it is hard to predict a game like this second game of the season. nothing from week 1 indicates that one of these teams can't play with the other.

[Plano West Wolf]

Hey, the game isn't on Channel 21 and it's 7:22... some other show is on.

[Plano West Wolf]

Hey, the game isn't on Channel 21 and it's 7:22... some other show is on.

nvm

[green day]

If I get to start a football team, I start with Rex B.

Solid

[dragonsdaddy]

polite isn't half bad for a soph, either.

i guess desoto took their cue to try an xp from the great kicking game demo last night. so far, desoto has dominated. the plano o has to burn somem clock or the ndefense will get completely worn out.

[TulsaHale74]

Let me know when it's time start the "overrated" cheer.:eek:

[dragonsdaddy]

Let me know when it's time start the "overrated" cheer.:eek:
bad as i hate to say it, it may not be too early as of now. desoto has completely dominated the los. plano forgot to take off their ankle weights it seems. plano may be small, but they are slow, too.

[Plano West Wolf]

Polite and Murphy from DeSoto can flat out PLAY. DeSoto's offensive line has DOMINATED Plano's defensive line. Rex has had a few good runs, I'm not sure why they aren't giving it to him more.

[Butch Fifield]

this is not really surprising.

defense is kinda important. this is what non district games are for.

[LoboFan07]

this is not really surprising.

Maybe not surprising for the DeSoto fans. But for the rest of the State, yep.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

DeSoto's QB Polite is terrific and kinda frightening he's just a Soph.

[KT2000]

I went and saw DeSoto played in Bryan last year, and couldn't have been more underwhelmed outside of Cyrus Gray. They had all the talent in the world, but were very sloppy. This new coach must be making a real impact.

[Dr.Zeus]

Plano is over rated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Maybe not surprising for the DeSoto fans. But for the rest of the State, yep.

[Butch Fifield]

Maybe not surprising for the DeSoto fans. But for the rest of the State, yep.

not surprising to Plano fans. we know we have some big holes to fill on defense.

i would be surprised if we are not one of best teams in state by time playoffs come around though.

btw Plano 21 Desoto 20.

[dragonsdaddy]

Plano is over rated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

we'll see, as plano has made a quantum shift in momentum. 21-20 plano.

[LoboFan07]

Plano is over rated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Way to jinx a team on your first post. :laugh

[TulsaHale74]

I wonder how Polite he is when receivers drop consecutive passes?

Plano improved. DeSoto self-destructed.

[TrojanHorse03]

I hate to say it but Desoto will do what it usually does under pressure.-fumble, turn the ball over, and lose their composure(5 fumbles last week, 2 lost, 1 for a Midland touchdown). I only say this because if it was just about talent year in year out they'd have as many state championships as anybody. Plano wins.

I hate to say I told y'all so. It's a good win for Plano contrary to what some will say. Desoto is a lot like North Shore, Lufkin and such, teams whose speed and athleticism every year make them especially tough to beat early in the season. If anything from my perspective this should serve as a huge warning for Trinity who will be facing the same type of team and challenge next week except...a more experienced version...on the road...needless to say Trinity will have to have alot better game up front on both sides than last week to come out of Longhorn Stadium with a victory on the road.

[dragonsdaddy]

nice halftime adjustments for the cats. desoto will be playing in the post season, and can make some noise, ifthey can find a kicking game and stop the nturnovers.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Just got back from the game.

As I stated in another thread. I expected a close game and thats what we got. Desoto great athletes, Polite is all what I expected a very good duel threat QB.

Plano read to many press clippings during the weak and started out the first half flat just like they did against MacArthur. If you told me that Plano would comeback and win at halftime I would of said 'NO WAY" Plano got to cute on offense and got the ball to burkhead a total of only 5 times. Plus Desoto did a great job of kicking plano's defense with the run. Plano starts 3 sophs on defense including their 2 DT's.

However, just like last week Plano made adjustments and surprise got Burkhead the ball and good things happened.

Another telling stat 4 Desoto turnovers with 3 of them leading to 21 Plano points. Plus Desoto has absolutely no kicking game or special teams. That will be their downfall. They will make the playoffs and have as much talent as anyone on Defense or Offense but when you can't punt, kickoff or kick extra points or fieldgoals it really limits what you can do.

Plano went a second straight game with no TO's and under 5 penalities.

Burkhead got 100 + yards and Laron Kelly Plano's all world Free Safety got 2 pic's and caused a fumble on Polite that lead to plano's go ahead TD.

Great come from behind win. But if they start the same way against Hebron, the comeback will be hard to come by.

Still LOT"S of work on both sides of the ball for Plano. Good win, good comeback and some great individual efforts on both sides of the ball.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

nice halftime adjustments for the cats. desoto will be playing in the post season, and can make some noise, ifthey can find a kicking game and stop the nturnovers.


I can't believe they can't fnd a kicker, their kickoff's totally sucked and helped Plano start a few times on the 50. Extra points:eek: forget about it. UGLY shanks.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I hate to say I told y'all so. It's a good win for Plano contrary to what some will say. Desoto is a lot like North Shore, Lufkin and such, teams whose speed and athleticism every year make them especially tough to beat early in the season. If anything from my perspective this should serve as a huge warning for Trinity who will be facing the same type of team and challenge next week except...a more experienced version...on the road...needless to say Trinity will have to have alot better game up front on both sides than last week to come out of Longhorn Stadium with a victory on the road.


You are a smart man. 4 Desoto turnovers = 21 plano points, no special teams what so ever. A good team with special teams wins tonight against Plano.

[PWCF03]

I really don't think Plano should be ranked #2 in the state. That was a embarrassing win. Yeah yeah they got a W. But this whole running back and forth to get the play has to stop. That will not work in the playoffs I can tell you that right now. I am surprised Plano didn't have more delay of game penalties.


It was unbelievable the holes we had on the DL. You could drive a 18 wheeler through there. Desoto is a really good team there QB and running backs are the real deal. The coach there is going to do a really good job there. One thing that Desoto should work on is the penalties. They need to be a little more disciplined. Also the kicking team could use a lot of help.


Plano's D got a lot better in the second half but Plano has to do something with their O in the first half. The D was getting wore out really quick. But that will not cut it when it comes playoff time. You can't get down in a hole like that, 20-7.


I wouldn't be surprised if Plano loses against Hebron or Temple. Plano barely squeaked by tonight.


Desoto keep your head up. You guys did a hell of a job and will do great the rest of the season.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I really don't think Plano should be ranked #2 in the state. That was a embarrassing win. Yeah yeah they got a W. But this whole running back and forth to get the play has to stop. That will not work in the playoffs I can tell you that right now. I am surprised Plano didn't have more delay of game penalties.


It was unbelievable the holes we had on the DL. You could drive a 18 wheeler through there. Desoto is a really good team there QB and running backs are the real deal. The coach there is going to do a really good job there. One thing that Desoto should work on is the penalties. They need to be a little more disciplined. Also the kicking team could use a lot of help.


Plano's D got a lot better in the second half but Plano has to do something with their O in the first half. The D was getting wore out really quick. But that will not cut it when it comes playoff time. You can't get down in a hole like that, 20-7.


I wouldn't be surprised if Plano loses against Hebron or Temple. Plano barely squeaked by tonight.


Desoto keep your head up. You guys did a hell of a job and will do great the rest of the season.


Dude!! Chill out. It's only the 2nd game. What did desoto do the 2nd half? Not to much. Plano made plays when needed, they made great adjustments and won a game against a very talented opponent. Plano again, played a lot guys on defense and had from my calculation at least 3 soph starters.

If you want to panick wait till week 8 or 9 and see how you do. This team will gel and the senior leadership will keep them focused. So what if they lose to Temple or even Hebron. All that counts is playing your best ball in district and peaking in time for the playoff's.

I believe Plano will do that, they did last year and will do it again this year.

[chickenheart1]

I think their are to many chiefs and not enough engines in the press box. I'm hearing a couple of things. It will definitely work itself out. I'm glad Plano is playing tough teams and not teams from south of the border. Should be very prepared for district. BTW, Desoto has a great QB and a magnificant O Line.;)

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

not surprising to Plano fans. we know we have some big holes to fill on defense.

i would be surprised if we are not one of best teams in state by time playoffs come around though.

btw Plano 21 Desoto 20.

Agreed Mr. BF. Plano started 2 Soph DT's and 3 or 4 other under classman tonight on defense. Two complete different halfs.

Encouraging that Plano had 2 games to start the season with 0 turnovers

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I think their are to many chiefs and not enough engines in the press box. I'm hearing a couple of things. It will definitely work itself out. I'm glad Plano is playing tough teams and not teams from south of the border. Should be very prepared for district. BTW, Desoto has a great QB and a magnificant O Line.;)


Agreed. Plano got much some great experience and will be the better team for it against a very good Desoto team.

Allen? Not so much. Just because you give up 14 points against MT doesn't make you a great defense.

[PWCF03]

I am fine, and don't feel that I am panicking. For Plano being #2 in the state and #9 in the nation they should have had more than 57 yards in the first half and 2 first downs. They are over-rated. I went to Plano and have lived in Plano my whole life. Plano got a lot better on the D throughout the game. I am not saying it is the end of the world if Plano loses against Hebron or Temple. But the Offense needs to get it together in the first half. They did the same thing last week. They need to figure out a better way to call the plays instead of player going out there and telling them what the play is.


GO CATS!!!

[tjw]

Agreed. Plano got much some great experience (alot of help from ref's)and will be the better team for it against a very good Desoto team.

Allen? Not so much. Just because you give up 14 points against MT doesn't make you a great defense. Better then Plano's

Without a lot a help from the ref's Desoto wins easily. Plano should have had (and did have 6 even though stats say 4) 10 penaltys with several delay of game and late hits not called :confused:
Not sure that was a fumble recovered in bounds the replay showed out of bounds? Also, shows Lott bobble the ball to finally catch it out of bounds for no td???

And what did Plano do to be so soaked? By the second half all the Plano players looked like they were playing on a hot summer day when it was a beautiful cool evening tonight? Did they intentionally wet then down to try to make then slippery?

I really don't think Plano should be ranked #2 in the state. That was a embarrassing win. Yeah yeah they got a W. But this whole running back and forth to get the play has to stop. That will not work in the playoffs I can tell you that right now. I am surprised Plano didn't have more delay of game penalties.

You are absolutely correct and I did not see a top ten ranked team play on UPN 21 tonight. Plano is over rated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D Think you are correct and its starting to show.:D

From what I saw with Plano tonight Allen would have blown them away 48-7. Hope you play that way in October. Still showed stop 1 man show and stop Plano.

[slcdragonfan]

missed this one, watching Lake Travis v Westlake. Were the turnovers forced or were they just mistakes?

[tjw]

missed this one, watching Lake Travis v Westlake. Were the turnovers forced or were they just mistakes?

One interception was and the fumble was too but replay showed it out of bounds when Plano recovered. Burkhead was a one man show, only 6 pass completions (including the td out of bounds so 5 really) for Meger.

[RedRage00]

One interception was and the fumble was too but replay showed it out of bounds when Plano recovered. Burkhead was a one man show, only 6 pass completions (including the td out of bounds so 5 really) for Meger.

The replay did not show it out of bounds so that is a big lie. I know you hate Plano but at least get the facts straight. And this isn't even coming from a Plano fan. I was watching it on 21 as well.

[dragonsdaddy]

The replay did not show it out of bounds so that is a big lie. I know you hate Plano but at least get the facts straight. And this isn't even coming from a Plano fan. I was watching it on 21 as well.

it didn't show it one way or the other, unless you are a plano hater.

[RedRage00]

it didn't show it one way or the other, unless you are a plano hater.

Exactly.

[farmerfan]

Exactly.

Or how the holding on the play before when Lott caught a quick slant. As the announcers said, there wasn't enough time for there to be a holding call. Seems as if Mr White hat just wanted to show his authority on the play.
The final TD was clearly a TD.

[Planofan2007]

[QUOTE=tjw;866193]Without a lot a help from the ref's Desoto wins easily. Plano should have had (and did have 6 even though stats say 4) 10 penaltys with several delay of game and late hits not called :confused:
Not sure that was a fumble recovered in bounds the replay showed out of bounds? Also, shows Lott bobble the ball to finally catch it out of bounds for no td???

What station where u watching b/c when they showed the reply it black-out before you could tell if it was out or not. That was a 3rd down play anyway and they would have tried to punt on 4th down anyway.

[trojan25]

Just as a casual observer, can someone from Plano please explain to me why you guys don't get Burkhead more touches?

Last year, in the game against Trinity, Burkhead tore up the Trojans, Plano had all the momentum, then they went away from him for a while. In this game, it took forever to finally get him involved, and then Plano took over.

If I've got this kid, I'm finding some way to get him 35 touches a game, especially when things aren't going my way.

[Planofan2007]

Just as a casual observer, can someone from Plano please explain to me why you guys don't get Burkhead more touches?

Last year, in the game against Trinity, Burkhead tore up the Trojans, Plano had all the momentum, then they went away from him for a while. In this game, it took forever to finally get him involved, and then Plano took over.

If I've got this kid, I'm finding some way to get him 35 touches a game, especially when things aren't going my way.

I think the reason is they want to save him for district. Rex is a beast but him carrying the ball 35 times a game for 10 game is more than some Pros carry the ball. Plus we know what we have in Rex want to see if some other kids will step up, I think a lot of the kids playing now wont be playing when district starts.

[Vols4Ever]

Then the question is --- is Plano really the #2 team in the state?

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[farmerfan]

Then the question is --- is Plano really the #2 team in the state?

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Time will tell on that.
I am sure Plano cares about being number 1 at the end of the season just like every team that is playing football right now.
Plano showed signs last night of having what it takes by falling behind and playing like crap and then making the adjustments needed at halftime and pulling out the W in the second half.

[TrojanHorse03]

The team that played 21-0 ball in the second half is a good team.

[TrojanHorse03]

Just as a casual observer, can someone from Plano please explain to me why you guys don't get Burkhead more touches?

They want defenses thinking about all the formations and personnel changes from the first half before going to Burkhead to close the game as well playaction in the second half.

[Mean DT]

Time will tell on that.
I am sure Plano cares about being number 1 at the end of the season just like every team that is playing football right now.
Plano showed signs last night of having what it takes by falling behind and playing like crap and then making the adjustments needed at halftime and pulling out the W in the second half.NO!!!

[dragonsdaddy]

The team that played 21-0 ball in the second half is a good team.

that team would be tough to beat. the first half cats were a top 50 team, at best. i tend to agree with the above commentary whereby the cats are testing the talent base, and saving sman for the meaningful games. i would love to think everyone realizes that playoff games are the only ones that matter(after making it of course). national and state rankings are crap. it'll be decided on the tire dust in december, tyvm.

[Dr.Zeus]

:) There will be some teams out there ready to show plano what is up in the upcoming weeks. just wait and see.

Way to jinx a team on your first post. :laugh

[trojanbacker]

They pulled it together at halftime, made adjustments and came from behind to win, which is really all that counts. They did exactly what experienced, talented teams do to win games. My guess is that they learned much more about their team than with a 50 point blowout over a team from Mexico. Good win Plano.

[dragonsdaddy]

:) There will be some teams out there ready to show plano what is up in the upcoming weeks. just wait and see.

and if first half plano shows up it'll be an early b-ball season. i expect more 2.0 cats starting next game, and for the rest of the season.

[Maroondog]

Without a lot a help from the ref's Desoto wins easily. Plano should have had (and did have 6 even though stats say 4) 10 penaltys with several delay of game and late hits not called :confused:
Not sure that was a fumble recovered in bounds the replay showed out of bounds? Also, shows Lott bobble the ball to finally catch it out of bounds for no td???

And what did Plano do to be so soaked? By the second half all the Plano players looked like they were playing on a hot summer day when it was a beautiful cool evening tonight? Did they intentionally wet then down to try to make then slippery?



You are absolutely correct and I did not see a top ten ranked team play on UPN 21 tonight. Think you are correct and its starting to show.:D

From what I saw with Plano tonight Allen would have blown them away 48-7. Hope you play that way in October. Still showed stop 1 man show and stop Plano.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the the ref "help" for Plano. Look at it again and check all the takedowns by the Desoto O-Line on the back side of the cutback runs. Especially by #75.

[txshock]

Plano outcoached Desoto. That's all there is to it. Good job 'Cats!

[Maxthedog]

Desoto, shoots foot, reloads and shoots other foot. Plano was impressive second half, good intensity, good adjustments. Desoto coaching VERY questionable second half. Desoto's players melted under Plano pressure.
Fun game, just like I thought it would be.
Burkhead is a joy to watch!!!!!!!!! Love that kids game toughness and effort.

I am amazed at the total lack of special teams from Desoto. Does not bode well for that REQUIREMENT, come PO time. Previous coaching staff has a decent kicking game, with very dangerous return game. Nada now!

[Maroondog]

Desoto, shoots foot, reloads and shoots other foot. Plano was impressive second half, good intensity, good adjustments. Desoto coaching VERY questionable second half. Desoto's players melted under Plano pressure.
Fun game, just like I thought it would be.
Burkhead is a joy to watch!!!!!!!!! Love that kids game toughness and effort.

I am amazed at the total lack of special teams from Desoto. Does not bode well for that REQUIREMENT, come PO time. Previous coaching staff has a decent kicking game, with very dangerous return game. Nada now!

I agree. Desoto was a great front runner but when the second half pressure was on, they melted like ice cubes residing in hell.
Plano's tenacity and winning tradition kept them in it and broke the will of Desoto. Coaching or lack thereof, depending on which side you were for, was HUGE.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Without a lot a help from the ref's Desoto wins easily. Plano should have had (and did have 6 even though stats say 4) 10 penaltys with several delay of game and late hits not called :confused:
Not sure that was a fumble recovered in bounds the replay showed out of bounds? Also, shows Lott bobble the ball to finally catch it out of bounds for no td???

And what did Plano do to be so soaked? By the second half all the Plano players looked like they were playing on a hot summer day when it was a beautiful cool evening tonight? Did they intentionally wet then down to try to make then slippery?



You are absolutely correct and I did not see a top ten ranked team play on UPN 21 tonight. Think you are correct and its starting to show.:D

From what I saw with Plano tonight Allen would have blown them away 48-7. Hope you play that way in October. Still showed stop 1 man show and stop Plano.


You keep believing that and we'll see October 17th that is a long time from now

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Just as a casual observer, can someone from Plano please explain to me why you guys don't get Burkhead more touches?

Last year, in the game against Trinity, Burkhead tore up the Trojans, Plano had all the momentum, then they went away from him for a while. In this game, it took forever to finally get him involved, and then Plano took over.

If I've got this kid, I'm finding some way to get him 35 touches a game, especially when things aren't going my way.

Planon tried to trick it up to much in the first half. Burkhead got 5 touches and the O scored 7 points. Second half burkhead got the ball 15 times and Plano scored 3 TD's. It seems OC is trying to set up Burkhead with the Pass when it should be the other way around.

[TrojanHorse03]

I agree. Desoto was a great front runner but when the second half pressure was on, they melted like ice cubes residing in hell.
Plano's tenacity and winning tradition kept them in it and broke the will of Desoto. Coaching or lack thereof, depending on which side you were for, was HUGE.

Do you really think Plano's "winning tradition" had anything to do with it??? It was Plano's adjustments particularly on defense, the Desoto qb's lack of downfield accuracy and decision making under pressure, and Desoto's disadvantageous special teams that resulted in a Plano victory.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Then the question is --- is Plano really the #2 team in the state?

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Who cares, IMO not right now. The only thing that matters in a 10 game season is making the playoffs and playing your best football of the year heading into the playoffs. That's what Plano did last year and that is what Plano will do this year. If they lose to Hebron or Temple so what.

[Maroondog]

Do you really think Plano's "winning tradition" had anything to do with it??? It was Plano's adjustments particularly on defense, the Desoto qb's lack of downfield accuracy and decision making under pressure, and Desoto's disadvantageous special teams that resulted in a Plano victory.

Yes I absolutely do. It is all part of the process of staying in a game and perserveering when things don't look so hot. The way Plano was manhandled in the first half would have made lots of teams fold the tent and start thinking about next week. The coaching and adjustments are all a credit to the staff but the players attitudes have just as much importance when it comes to stayng in and winning tight games.
Call it tradition, attitude, aura, mystique, whatever. Its built over years of just getting it done.

[DragonFan0316]

Then the question is --- is Plano really the #2 team in the state?

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Not that it matters for anything but in my opinion...NO.

[paradox169]

on a side note, I actually just relized this but #35 for Plano was laying out some realy good blocks for burkhead and for meagers qb sneak TD. But # 35 is just a sophomore! Im looking forward to seeing him play a lot more.

[tjw]

Yes I absolutely do. It is all part of the process of staying in a game and perserveering when things don't look so hot. The way Plano was manhandled in the first half would have made lots of teams fold the tent and start thinking about next week. The coaching and adjustments are all a credit to the staff but the players attitudes have just as much importance when it comes to stayng in and winning tight games.
Call it tradition, attitude, aura, mystique, whatever. Its built over years of just getting it done.

Then how would you explain 2006 (4-6) & 2004 (0-10) :confused:

You keep believing that and we'll see October 17th that is a long time from now

Didn't say Plano might not play better, just did not see much last night and if they play like that against any other team they lose. ;)

Not that it matters for anything but in my opinion...NO.

Have to agree with you :D

[bigdaddydog]

You keep believing that and we'll see October 17th that is a long time from now

PWF, I agree with you 150%. That was a good character building win for Plano.

Who cares, IMO the only thing that matters in a 10 game season is making the playoffs and playing your best football of the year heading into the playoffs. That's what Allen did not do last year and that is what the Allen team is focused on this year. If they lose to Triinity or Rockwall so what.


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[desotoeaglesgrad]

Once again, DeSoto showed a real lack of composure in a big game. Turnovers, bad penalties... I agree with Terrence Wilkerson's parents and Von Miller's parents, they need to get rid of Dave Meadows as the head coach....Oh wait, they DID get rid of him. That's right, I was just confused for a sec. Cause that team in the second half sure looked a lot like last year's team. So football booster club members, ready to replace coach Mathis now? :mad:

BTW, under Coach Meadows, this team at least could kick off, kick extra points, and new how to return a kickoff without it almost turning into a safety!

[TrojanHorse03]

Once again, DeSoto showed a real lack of composure in a big game. Turnovers, bad penalties... I agree with Terrence Wilkerson's parents and Von Miller's parents, they need to get rid of Dave Meadows as the head coach....Oh wait, they DID get rid of him. That's right, I was just confused for a sec. Cause that team in the second half sure looked a lot like last year's team. So football booster club members, ready to replace coach Mathis now? :mad:

BTW, under Coach Meadows, this team at least could kick off, kick extra points, and new how to return a kickoff without it almost turning into a safety!

You forgot punt.

[desotoeaglesgrad]

On the flip side, great adjustments by the Plano coaching staff in the 2nd half. The Wildcats showed they could handle being down.

[desotoeaglesgrad]

You forgot punt.

My bad. Guess there were just too many special teams screw ups to remember them all.

[Maroondog]

Then how would you explain 2006 (4-6) & 2004 (0-10) :confused:


Didn't say Plano might not play better, just did not see much last night and if they play like that against any other team they lose. ;)



Have to agree with you :D

I don't "explain" it. Plano has had some bad years and LOTS of exceptional ones. The tradition is built over the long haul. By the way, I saw every game in 2003 0-10 (get your facts straight). I never saw any quit in the kids. They just weren't good enough.
How do you explain Rowlett last year?

[Old Plano Fan]

That #35 had a few good runs as well as the blocks mention earlier, and he is just a soph.

Just plan and simple, Desoto came in ready to play, Plano didn't. All the folks sitting near us at the game thought the same thing, "the boys look flat."

Would someone PLEASE tell the coaches to get the plays in quicker, or use a different system. There were numberous times in the game when Meger was trying to tell the coaches to "COME ON, GET ME THE PLAY!" He came off the field once just angry as a "CAT" because of this!

Also, some of the calls or lack thereof from the refs where very questionable. That #75 for Desoto mugged a few guys on the cut back runs. He was called for holding once that I recall, but should have been called many more times.

Finally, I have got to take my hat off to Desoto, you guys came to play!

Plano, if you do not correct the play calling issues and the up the middle defense, we are due for a loss very soon.

[desotoeaglesgrad]

Also, can anyone tell me why DeSoto wore those hideous uniforms and helmets with no logo?

[tjw]

I don't "explain" it. Plano has had some bad years and LOTS of exceptional ones. The tradition is built over the long haul. By the way, I saw every game in 2003 0-10 (get your facts straight). I never saw any quit in the kids. They just weren't good enough.
How do you explain Rowlett last year?

Simple, called looking ahead to next week since you already beat that team convincingly and QB overthrowing recievers or hot sophmore finally showing he is a sophmore and played like one :D

Wasn't sure of 0-10 year, I'll take your word it was 2003. Either way whats the tradition of 0-10, you know how to lose and do it all year long :rolleyes:

[Butch Fifield]

It is also hard to get your star offensive player that many touches when your defense is on the field the whole half. Desoto's offense controlled that first half.

People put way too much into the early games. These are the games you use to get ready for district. Wins/losses are meaningless.

You hope to improve during district and peak for the playoffs.

I have seen a few time where Plano lost to a team in non-district by 20+ and beat that same team in the playoffs by 20+.

[Maroondog]

Simple, called looking ahead to next week since you already beat that team convincingly and QB overthrowing recievers or hot sophmore finally showing he is a sophmore and played like one :D

Wasn't sure of 0-10 year, I'll take your word it was 2003. Either way whats the tradition of 0-10, you know how to lose and do it all year long :rolleyes:

Just keep living in the past. I'll take our record of STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS and our 0-10 over anything Allen has ever accomplished!

[tjw]

Just keep living in the past. I'll take our record of STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS and our 0-10 over anything Allen has ever accomplished!

Thats funny...you talk about the past and want to say I'm living in the past. :D:D Just so funny :D:D

[Maroondog]

Thats funny...you talk about the past and want to say I'm living in the past. :D:D Just so funny :D:D

Really? When you first brought up 0-10, even though you didn't even know the actual year, that wasn't in the past?

It really is funny isn't it?

[DragonFan0316]

I posted this on another thread but I believe this year will prove that all three Plano teams were overrated.

[TrojanHorse03]

I'm not known as a Plano homer, but IMO the Plano team in the second half of the Desoto game is worthy of its billing. The offense is better and deeper at all the skill positions than last year and should look like the unit it was expected to be from here on out IMO, they're gonna explode on quite a few teams along the way.

[RedRage00]

I *heart* Plano :Music

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I posted this on another thread but I believe this year will prove that all three Plano teams were over rated.

It's amazing that after 2 games or in some cases 1 game you can quickly decipher how a team will do. Teams are never as good or as bad as people think after 1 or 2 games.

[hollywood]

Thats funny...you talk about the past and want to say I'm living in the past. :D:D Just so funny :D:D

:notworthy

[RedRage00]

I posted this on another thread but I believe this year will prove that all three Plano teams were overrated.

I knew after watching SLC struggle with Lake Highlands in the first game of the season(last year) that they wouldn't win state...I was right. :D;)

[DragonFan0316]

It's amazing that after 2 games or in some cases 1 game you can quickly decipher how a team will do. Teams are never as good or as bad as people think after 1 or 2 games.

I was just trying to get someones goat. Plano should do very well. East and West, well they are different stories. You are right though, we need more time and games to see who the contenders and pretenders are. Sorry for being a wisecracker.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I'm not known as a Plano homer, but IMO the Plano team in the second half of the Desoto game is worthy of its billing. The offense is better and deeper at all the skill positions than last year and should look like the unit it was expected to be from here on out IMO, there gonna explode on quite a few teams along the way.

Plano is playing alot of players and their defense will gel as the season goes along. The oline is playing alot of players and are deciding on 2 new starters.

As the great Tom Kimbrough said at halftime on the telecast, preseason games are time for preparing for district.

All will be fine. When it gets into the meat of district and games are must win. You'll see Mr. Burkhead's touches move up

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[DragonFan0316]

I knew after watching SLC struggle with Lake Highlands in the first game of the season(last year) that they wouldn't win state...I was right. :D;)

I stand corrected and humbled. I believe it was Rockwall we struggled with.

[TrojanHorse03]

I think this was a good win. I can tell you from when Trinity use to play Desoto every year, there speed and athleticism is a tough draw early in the year. Trust me on this as a word to and from the wise, do not by any means count out or devalue Plano based on last night's week one win.

[Maroondog]

Pre season rankings are great. Right now they don't mean squat. Its all about getting ready for district play and W's and L's.
It aways shakes out at the end of the year doesn't it?

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I think this was a good win. I can tell you from when Trinity use to play Desoto every year, there speed and athleticism is a tough draw early in the year. Trust me on this as a word to and from the wise, do not by any means count out or devalue Plano based on last night's week one win.

Agreed, how many people counted out Trinity when you guys lost to Periman? You guys really flew under the radar until the Permian rematch.

[TrojanHorse03]

Agreed, how many people counted out Trinity when you guys lost to Periman? You guys really flew under the radar until the Permian rematch.

It hasn't even been a full year since public perception on this board included of Trinity's players, program, and coaches was completely different, so Plano fans would be wise not to sweat the change in weather. I still personally remember the things people said, the Haka was finished, Haka's done, the run is over, qb can't play, offense sucked, defense is overrated, Trinity fans are homers, not beating Permian, won't beat Plano, won't win state, etc. It hasn't even been a full year since 30-3 and now I'm hearing some people having the audacity to say Cedar Hill doesn't have a chance against us. I'm gonna repeat what I said earlier in this thread

If anything from my perspective this should serve as a huge warning for Trinity who will be facing the same type of team and challenge next week except...a more experienced version...on the road...needless to say Trinity will have to have alot better game up front on both sides than last week to come out of Longhorn Stadium with a victory on the road.

[NHB06]

Desoto always seems to be a tough opponent. The Eagles gave Plano hell in the first round of the 2005 playoffs, too.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I think this was a good win. I can tell you from when Trinity use to play Desoto every year, there speed and athleticism is a tough draw early in the year. Trust me on this as a word to and from the wise, do not by any means count out or devalue Plano based on last night's week one win.


Plano is playing 4 play-off teams in their pre district & 5 playoff teams from last year in district play. Only PE did not make the playoff's and they finished 6-4.

Every week Plano is getting their opponents best effort. No flying under the radar like last year.

[tjw]

It's amazing that after 2 games or in some cases 1 game you can quickly decipher how a team will do. Teams are never as good or as bad as people think after 1 or 2 games.

agree, so just what you bragging about then :rolleyes:

[eaglesflyhigher]

Also, can anyone tell me why DeSoto wore those hideous uniforms and helmets with no logo?

They just ordered those this year. Maybe to represent the change of direction of the team? I dont know. No clue on the helmets, but I definitely like them better with the wings on.

and personally i like the black/green uniforms from last year a lot.

[PlanoVOR]

Interesting observations about how good Plano is. Not that Plano is over rated so much but that Desoto is under rated. Personally I thought the discussion could be about how good Desoto could, and will be. They are HUGE up front and have the potential to control any game on O & D. They should have a great season. Their main problem is inexperience and that will go away by November. Reg. II look out.
The main problem with Plano right now is that there is no Boss on the sideline. Too many in mid-management trying to make decisions, hence the huddle consistently getting the play with less than 12 sec- no time for anyone to make checks or reads=no synch=no success.
Games 1,2; first half= alot of subbing=no synch=no success, 2nd half=little subbing, top players in=more synch=tremendous success, on O and D. Also, totally different offensive schemes each half. Interestingly, Plano has yet to use the scheme that was so successful last year.
Ironically #20 got alot of touches. 47 plays- he got 22 touches, almost half. It's not necessarily the # of touches, it's how he is used, and right now that has been poor. Only 12 passes. (did give up 3 sacks) The passing game has been used ineffectively.
I don't think anyone has really seen the "team" Plano will field this year. Their victories have been pretty much due to the talent of the guys on the field. The system will come together as everyone figures it out. BTW, anyone whining about the "homer" officials- how about the Desoto player fielding a KO in the endzone, stepping out to the 1 yard line with both feet, then stepping back into the enzone and taking a knee. The refs put the ball on the 20. It CLEARLY should have been a safety.

[bigdaddydog]

Interesting observations about how good Plano is. Not that Plano is over rated so much but that Desoto is under rated. Personally I thought the discussion could be about how good Desoto could, and will be. They are HUGE up front and have the potential to control any game on O & D. They should have a great season. Their main problem is inexperience and that will go away by November. Reg. II look out.
The main problem with Plano right now is that there is no Boss on the sideline. Too many in mid-management trying to make decisions, hence the huddle consistently getting the play with less than 12 sec- no time for anyone to make checks or reads=no synch=no success.
Games 1,2; first half= alot of subbing=no synch=no success, 2nd half=little subbing, top players in=more synch=tremendous success, on O and D. Also, totally different offensive schemes each half. Interestingly, Plano has yet to use the scheme that was so successful last year.
Ironically #20 got alot of touches. 47 plays- he got 22 touches, almost half. It's not necessarily the # of touches, it's how he is used, and right now that has been poor. Only 12 passes. (did give up 3 sacks) The passing game has been used ineffectively.
I don't think anyone has really seen the "team" Plano will field this year. Their victories have been pretty much due to the talent of the guys on the field. The system will come together as everyone figures it out. BTW, anyone whining about the "homer" officials- how about the Desoto player fielding a KO in the endzone, stepping out to the 1 yard line with both feet, then stepping back into the enzone and taking a knee. The refs put the ball on the 20. It CLEARLY should have been a safety.

Nice first post. you are a credit to Plano football fans! :)


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[Maroon Cathead]

DeSoto put the hurt on Plano and dominated the first half, and Plano bounced back in the second half. Both teams played well, and both have a good game to build on.

DeSoto is too well coached and talented to be atrocious in the kicking game. That phase of football is just as important as offense and defense, and it needs to be greatly improved upon.

Agree with critics of Plano that at this point in time Plano is likely not the number two team in the state. Regardless, as others have pointed out, the important thing is that Plano hits its stride for district play and the playoffs.

Encouraging to see the limited use of Rex Burkhead. His touches need to be limited; likely, it will be a long year. This is the opportunity for the fullback and Burkhead's backup to get important experience.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

DeSoto put the hurt on Plano and dominated the first half, and Plano bounced back in the second half. Both teams played well, and both have a good game to build on.

DeSoto is too well coached and talented to be atrocious in the kicking game. That phase of football is just as important as offense and defense, and it needs to be greatly improved upon.

Agree with critics of Plano that at this point in time Plano is likely not the number two team in the state. Regardless, as others have pointed out, the important thing is that Plano hits its stride for district play and the playoffs.

Encouraging to see the limited use of Rex Burkhead. His touches need to be limited; likely, it will be a long year. This is the opportunity for the fullback and Burkhead's backup to get important experience.


After checking out the scores tonight so far. Plano looks pretty good. :D

[jbusch]

Just as a casual observer, can someone from Plano please explain to me why you guys don't get Burkhead more touches?

Last year, in the game against Trinity, Burkhead tore up the Trojans, Plano had all the momentum, then they went away from him for a while. In this game, it took forever to finally get him involved, and then Plano took over.

If I've got this kid, I'm finding some way to get him 35 touches a game, especially when things aren't going my way. not as bad as baker tore up the cats