Lufkin vs John Tyler

[GameTyme]

A Lufkin fan suggested someone start a poll.

In 2003 when JT came to Lufkin everyone was expecting blowout and nothing was further from the truth. However I think and of course this is with my purple shades on that Lufkin will get the job done and get the starters out early.

I think Lufkin's WR's will be to much to handle with Claybon slinging the ball around. First game at Abe the Pack should be fired up. The defense will continue with another dominant perfomance.

[Rapture]

A Lufkin fan suggested someone start a poll.

In 2003 when JT came to Lufkin everyone was expecting blowout and nothing was further from the truth. However I think and of course this is with my purple shades on that Lufkin will get the job done and get the starters out early.

I think Lufkin's WR's will be to much to handle with Claybon slinging the ball around. First game at Abe the Pack should be fired up. The defense will continue with another dominant perfomance.
man it does not make since 4 anyone to start this poll. it will be 99% lufkin and you know it. unless you trying prove something then a poll should be out of the picture. u can start a topic though. ha ha !! thats about it dog.

[GameTyme]

man it does not make since anyone to start this poll. it will be 99% lufkin and you know it. unless you trying prove something then a ole should be out of the picture. u can start a topic though. ha ha !! thats about it dog.


Somone asked for it, but we still have to play the game. I remeber showing up at The Berry Center a few years ago and I remeber leaving seeing the bigest Panther collapse in History.

[Favpack]

Lufkin should win, possibly pulling away, but who really knows. LP has proven to be inconsistent over the past 14 months. Lufkin gets one key defending starter back - lb'r Kelandis Phillips - so, you'll hopefully see a more consistent defensive effort Friday.

Plus, REL is a dang good team, and they proved it Friday by almost winning.

[sweetpea]

They will protect the HOUSE ! :notworthy Old Abe will be rocking :eek:, first home game;), band playing flush that john . :Music

[KLH75287]

They will protect the HOUSE ! :notworthy Old Abe will be rocking :eek:, first home game;), band playing flush that john . :Music

THAT's what I'm talkin' about!

This is always a great game. A real rivalry atmosphere at Ol' Abe. It doesn't get much better than that.

[dragonpants]

Lufkin will win because they are better and will score more points.

[c-lisle]

Lufkin will win because they are better and will score more points.

lol....there was no poll needed for this one

[CO99JTHS]

A poll patronizing my beloved Lions huh.....:mad:


Well, what can I say? It pains me to say that If Lufkin is at least half as good as Texas High (and I imagine they are) they should pretty much be able to pick the score one in this one. The losing around here is now getting old...year, after year, after year, after year. Its a losing culture that needs to be changed. I really think these kids take the field with the expectations that they'll probably lose. No pride. Coach really should dig up a few old "CUJO" game tapes or maybe put together a power point to let these kids know what it means to wear blue and white. Strip the Lion decals off their helmets and put the new uniforms in boxes until you EARN something. What makes it worse is that the talent is there and you can easily see it at all the skill positions.

To the kids credit though, at least 21 of TH's 42 points can be credited to the coaching staff. They made it too easy for TH. The play calling and the lack of adjustments were terrible. Why they refused to help the poor corner who held TH's best reciever is beyond belief. It seems after the first 2 times he blew by him so fast his head spun, someone would have said, "hey, lets double dude"..... hell..even trip him. The only thing that kept TH under 50 points, is their own lack of focus, a decent (but tired) JT defense and a punter who flipped the field everytime he punted. We can only get better though.

I do believe this one will be closer than the "EXPERTS" think though if we somehow manage to SHOW SOME PRIDE!!!!!!!

[StormingCowboy]

This poll was not needed!! :mad:

It' s no secret that JT is down.

CUJO, take the field and give it your all. Thats all anyone can ask for.

[CO99JTHS]

This poll was not needed!! :mad:

It' s no secret that JT is down.

CUJO, take the field and give it your all. Thats all anyone can ask for.

Well, at least I think I know where the other vote came from now lol.... Good Luck CC!!

[c-lisle]

Well, at least I think I know where the other vote came from now lol.... Good Luck CC!!

hey man i hate to see JT down as much as anyone but only a terribly biased person would vote for JT in this one. Good luck I would love to see JT pull the upset but there is little chance of that. Travel safe and try to enjoy the season.

[sweetpea]

hey man i hate to see JT down as much as anyone but only a terribly biased person would vote for JT in this one. Good luck I would love to see JT pull the upset but there is little chance of that. Travel safe and try to enjoy the season.

i think this will be a statement game, lp will put it out of reach early.

[99cujo]

We will show up and give it all we got until the last play.CUJO NEVER QUIT, NEVER DIE

[GameTyme]

Up until 1999 JT owned East Texas. Let's be honest I think the open enrollment in Tyler is Killing JT. Tyron Ross stayed right next to John Tyler HS if im not mistaken or maybe it was Farmer, but both were closer to JT then Lee, but maybe im wrong just go by what Ive been told.

Striping the decals is a good idea Lufkin did it last year, but it was only 1 game. I also hate seeing Cujo down. Just seems after Allen Wilson left there was nothing left. They did have that good run with Kendall Hunter and Maddoxx(SP).

[LPack007]

We will show up and give it all we got until the last play.CUJO NEVER QUIT, NEVER DIE

Aye If you're coming down to Abe have a safe trip!! but back to the thread title Lp should win this game by at least two touchdowns for the home opener IMO.

[EagleDude73]

Lufkin Panthers.

[99cujo]

Aye If you're coming down to Abe have a safe trip!! but back to the thread title Lp should win this game by at least two touchdowns for the home opener IMO.Thanks I will be there.In my Blue & white

[LoboFan07]

hey man i hate to see JT down as much as anyone but only a terribly biased person would vote for JT in this one. Good luck I would love to see JT pull the upset but there is little chance of that. Travel safe and try to enjoy the season.

2nd that.

[LP04]

Not sure why about there is a poll, i suggested a thread mainly just to discuss the teams. Even if they loose i like to know who to watch on the other side. So John Tyler fans who should i be keeping an eye on as a good player?

I voted for John Tyler just so the poll wouldnt be so one sided, rly rly rly dont think they will win unless someone poisons the Lufkin team or something but I wanted to be sure they got at least 1 vote.

And have a good trip down to Lufkin. I am worried about the new visitor side set up and this is the first game we will get to see it in action. I suggest showing up plenty early to play it safe if you are driving this way. Fill up your gas tanks before heading this way to. Family in Longview area says its in the 3.50s and its still 3.68 here as of wed. Oh and since its been awhile since uve headed this way alot of restraunts stay open late on friday nights in football season so if you want to catch a bite after the game there should still be a few choices. You can also listen to the game here on 100.1 so if you have a radio and want to listen in bring it.

[gtee2]

WOW!!! If I was a CUJO football player(and i know players read these post), I would be fired up and ready to shock the world. I know JT has the heart and DAMN sho got the talent. How long has it been? 7,8 losing seasons since 2000 with one good one 3 years ago. Damn! Did the wrong team go to 4-a? Getting very close to PT Pirate level.:eek:

[Rapture]

Up until 1999 JT owned East Texas. Let's be honest I think the open enrollment in Tyler is Killing JT. Tyron Ross stayed right next to John Tyler HS if im not mistaken or maybe it was Farmer, but both were closer to JT then Lee, but maybe im wrong just go by what Ive been told.

Striping the decals is a good idea Lufkin did it last year, but it was only 1 game. I also hate seeing Cujo down. Just seems after Allen Wilson left there was nothing left. They did have that good run with Kendall Hunter and Maddoxx(SP).
no ross nor farmer stayed right next to jt. i believe ross and some point in his highschool career stayed in what was called jt's district though. but not right next to it.

[GameTyme]

no ross nor farmer stayed right next to jt. i believe ross and some point in his highschool career stayed in what was called jt's district though. but not right next to it.


Is it open enrollment in Tyler.

[Rapture]

Is it open enrollment in Tyler.
i think they done awaywith that if im not mistaken.it was for a couple of years . i think you have to go to school in your own district again now.

[99cujo]

Not sure why about there is a poll, i suggested a thread mainly just to discuss the teams. Even if they loose i like to know who to watch on the other side. So John Tyler fans who should i be keeping an eye on as a good player? I voted for John Tyler just so the poll wouldnt be so one sided, rly rly rly dont think they will win unless someone poisons the Lufkin team or something but I wanted to be sure they got at least 1 vote.

And have a good trip down to Lufkin. I am worried about the new visitor side set up and this is the first game we will get to see it in action. I suggest showing up plenty early to play it safe if you are driving this way. Fill up your gas tanks before heading this way to. Family in Longview area says its in the 3.50s and its still 3.68 here as of wed. Oh and since its been awhile since uve headed this way alot of restraunts stay open late on friday nights in football season so if you want to catch a bite after the game there should still be a few choices. You can also listen to the game here on 100.1 so if you have a radio and want to listen in bring it.Keep an eye out for dt#85 the last of the Dorsey boys he is a jr. RB #22 K.Black he is a jr QB JJ & rb D. Ward is a few. I will be leaving Tyler @ 5:00 Look out Lufkin be BIG BAD JOHN WILL BE IN DA HOUSE GO CUJO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OMG101]

This is a joke and that program has been a joke since the departure of Wilson & the first year of Brooks. They past 3 years they have been 4-7, 1-9, and looking at maybe a 2-8 this year. Times have definatly changed at that school

[Rapture]

if jt win this. it will throw a monkey wrench in everything . then all of the questions and opinions would start.

[OMG101]

2002 3-7-0 148-270 Kelvin Rafliff
2003 1-9-0 129-268 Kelvin Ratliff
2004 2-8-0 110-249 Kelvin Ratliff
2005 8-3-0 279-159 Thomas Brooks
2006 4-7-0 Thomas Brooks
2007 1-9-0 Dereck Rush
2008 ?-?-0 Dereck Rush

[Rapture]

you may can listen to broadcast of this game as well as the lee/longview game on smoaky.com

[txshock]

Is this Derreck Rush's last season at the helm?

[99cujo]

Is this Derreck Rush's last season at the helm?I believe so but we will keep him.

[99cujo]

This is a joke and that program has been a joke since the departure of Wilson & the first year of Brooks. They past 3 years they have been 4-7, 1-9, and looking at maybe a 2-8 this year. Times have definatly changed at that schoolTo you JT may be a joke TYOP but to the kids it is for real.I watch them practice & I hear them talk, They believe in them self as well as the program & the coach. I bet Lufkin & Outlaw don't think that they is a joke.And for the teams that will (watch yourself).This is a good team and a group of young men. To me this is the first group of players that really loves the blue & white they pride is back and they will not quit.

[OMG101]

Whats going on up there? Is it the lack of talent, coaching or both? Why would they keep him?

[CO99JTHS]

2002 3-7-0 148-270 Kelvin Rafliff
2003 1-9-0 129-268 Kelvin Ratliff
2004 2-8-0 110-249 Kelvin Ratliff
2005 8-3-0 279-159 Thomas Brooks
2006 4-7-0 Thomas Brooks
2007 1-9-0 Dereck Rush
2008 ?-?-0 Dereck Rush

Whew...see I couldn't even rattle off those losing records as fast. I'm glad to see someone still cares. :Censor:

[CO99JTHS]

Whats going on up there? Is it the lack of talent, coaching or both? Why would they keep him?

Reason to keep him is that fact that he's only been a head coach on any level for 1 year. We knew this was a rebuilding time for the program so we shalll remain patient. Shuffling coaching staffs in and out every 2 years is a good way to assure ourselves a place as the doormat. I don't really agree that he's right for the job, but I'll at give him a chance because he does seem to care and wants to see these kids succeed. We can't keep changing coaches. There's something to be said for consistency of any sort. I just feel we needed more exp. at the HC positions instead of just throwing him in there on the 5A level in a district this tough. Just by looking at our schedule though..... a lonnnnng year indeed. But as long as they show some sort of pride about themselves I'll continue to back our LIONS. CUUUUUUUJJOOOOOOO......lets go!!!

[sweetpea]

I thought that brooks was a good hire, he was winning in the BMT. area.:eek:

[99cujo]

Reason to keep him is that fact that he's only been a head coach on any level for 1 year. We knew this was a rebuilding time for the program so we shalll remain patient. Shuffling coaching staffs in and out every 2 years is a good way to assure ourselves a place as the doormat. I don't really agree that he's right for the job, but I'll at give him a chance because he does seem to care and wants to see these kids succeed. We can't keep changing coaches. There's something to be said for consistency of any sort. I just feel we needed more exp. at the HC positions instead of just throwing him in there on the 5A level in a district this tough. Just by looking at our schedule though..... a lonnnnng year indeed. But as long as they show some sort of pride about themselves I'll continue to back our LIONS. CUUUUUUUJJOOOOOOO......lets go!!!I agree we need to keep a coach in for at least his first fresh. class becomes sr. If he don't turn the team around at that time then it's time to consd. a h\c change. Let his system work for at least 4yrs. I'm off to Lufkin LOOK OUT FOR "99CUJO"

[Rapture]

To you JT may be a joke TYOP but to the kids it is for real.I watch them practice & I hear them talk, They believe in them self as well as the program & the coach. I bet Lufkin & Outlaw don't think that they is a joke.And for the teams that will (watch yourself).This is a good team and a group of young men. To me this is the first group of players that really loves the blue & white they pride is back and they will not quit.
its easy to tell you are a patient fan. i have no patience for losing never hav. i get uneasy.

[LoboFan07]

its easy to tell you are a patient fan. i have no patience for losing never hav. i get uneasy.

I don't think JT fans ok with losing either. You'd be crazy to believe they are.

But things have changed. Lee was the doormat that JT is now, for a long time. And for whatever reasons, it's been switched.

As mentioned above, JT will get better with the right coaching staff. Didn't Brooks leave? I really thought he was going to turn that program around, especially after '05. But for whatever reason, it just didn't happen. Good luck to both teams, but deep down cheering for Cujo for obvious reasons. ;)

[Rapture]

I agree we need to keep a coach in for at least his first fresh. class becomes sr. If he don't turn the team around at that time then it's time to consd. a h\c change. Let his system work for at least 4yrs. I'm off to Lufkin LOOK OUT FOR "99CUJO"
i agree he deserves to have time to turn a team around. its hard to bring a team from the bottom to the top. not that jt was at the very bottom when he was hired. but they were in need of a good hire. i believe rush is the right man for the job. i never talked to him in person but i have seen him in person and on the coaches corner and i can tell he is a great minded coach and cares for the kids and i wish the best for him and the program. i dont like for folks to criticize the man behind his back and he is doing the best he possibly or anyone else can do. the players have to back him up. i see disapline in the group that wasnt there when brooks was at the helm. so thats a good start. he just needs some time. i saw goodness in jt last year. they showed how competative they can be under rush against longview last season.

[Rapture]

I don't think JT fans ok with losing either. You'd be crazy to believe they are.

But things have changed. Lee was the doormat that JT is now, for a long time. And for whatever reasons, it's been switched.

As mentioned above, JT will get better with the right coaching staff. Didn't Brooks leave? I really thought he was going to turn that program around, especially after '05. But for whatever reason, it just didn't happen. Good luck to both teams, but deep down cheering for Cujo for obvious reasons. ;)
yes i felt thatpain when lee was down and i still sort of feel it while jt is on a slump. BR&C baby!!!!! but yes i know when jt gets back on top or when they start to turn the corner i know the feelin that will flow through the hearts of the fans. when lee turn ed it around in 97 district and went 8-0 in 98 to start off the season, it was a great feeling. i hope the true die hard jt fans get that feeling back very soon. even though lee is my #1. jt is right there in the mist. i cant wait for them to get they glory years back. but when they play us, they will always be what they are to me........MY #2 good luck CCCCCCCCCCCCCCUUUUUUUUUUUUJJJJJJJJJJOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LoboFan07]

BR&C baby!!!!!

That confirms it. :rolleyes: :laugh

[Rapture]

That confirms it. :rolleyes: :laugh
WHATS CONFIRMED ? beatem,rushem & cruiz to victory is what that stands for ;)

[pack98]

I miss the days when jt was great. the pack should win but hey that is why you play the game.

GO PANTHERS

[CO99JTHS]

1st to say...that was a great game. JT is young, hungry and on the rise. As for Lufkin....well the qb IS the weakest link. We played hard and showed some kind of heart. Losing is just a habit thats dies hard. At any rate, I guess the best team won. But let me say this, if that game was officiated ANYWHERE near fair, JT wins.....nice moral vic for us tho. Our jr. qb is rather impressive huh. Good outing for the defense also.

[PantherStang84]

1st to say...that was a great game. JT is young, hungry and on the rise. As for Lufkin....well the qb IS the weakest link. We played hard and showed some kind of heart. Losing is just a habit thats dies hard. At any rate, I guess the best team won. But let me say this, if that game was officiated ANYWHERE near fair, JT wins.....nice moral vic for us tho. Our jr. qb is rather impressive huh. Good outing for the defense also.

Wow. I wasn't there so I'll just say wow.

[pack68]

I was at the game and the Panthers have a long way to go. Very disappointed in how they looked:

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

What was the final score of this game?

[KLH75287]

I was at the game and the Panthers have a long way to go. Very disappointed in how they looked:

What the heck?

I didn't get to listen to the game because I attended another game with my girl (SHE"S A REAL FAN! I have been SO blessed!), and just checked the final.

Is there any hope that they can put an offense together that can compete?

What was their issue tonight?

[Favpack]

What the heck?

I didn't get to listen to the game because I attended another game with my girl (SHE"S A REAL FAN! I have been SO blessed!), and just checked the final.

Is there any hope that they can put an offense together that can compete?

What was their issue tonight?

We actually had a decent running game - zero passing game tonight. JT had a plan and executed it very well.

Lufkin looked beyond bad on O, however, really ugly. No way we beat the Woodz without a tremendously better effort - no way.

[GameTyme]

What was the final score of this game?


13-12 Lufkin

Tough game. Claybon just didnt pick it uo tonight. Tho he did run the ball with success.

Other then the 45 yard TD run by JT Lufkin's defense was Lufkin like. JT' other score was set up on a TO were they had the ball at the 5, but Cujo's defense played just about as good as you could ask them to play.

One bright spot was Lufkin RB Trevon Lewis if it wasnt for him we may not have won this one. 134 yards on not to many carries didnt catch what they said. Also WR Quin Trimble mad a Dez Bryant like catch actually his catch was better then anything Dez had it was just a sick 1 hander twisting his body for about 40 yards.


Congrats Cujo nothing but respect here.

[GameTyme]

What the heck?

I didn't get to listen to the game because I attended another game with my girl (SHE"S A REAL FAN! I have been SO blessed!), and just checked the final.

Is there any hope that they can put an offense together that can compete?

What was their issue tonight?


They will be OK. Bad dropped pass by the TE. John Tyler decided to play defense tonight.

[KLH75287]

We actually had a decent running game - zero passing game tonight. JT had a plan and executed it very well.

Lufkin looked beyond bad on O, however, really ugly. No way we beat the Woodz without a tremendously better effort - no way.

That looks to be a given based on these first two outings. TWHS is lighting up the scoreboard, and we get 13 against JT :confused:

What's the deal? Is it the QB, play calling, O-line, all of the above, or what?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

13-12 Lufkin

Tough game. Claybon just didnt pick it uo tonight. Tho he did run the ball with success.

Other then the 45 yard TD run by JT Lufkin's defense was Lufkin like. JT' other score was set up on a TO were they had the ball at the 5, but Cujo's defense played just about as good as you could ask them to play.

One bright spot was Lufkin RB Trevon Lewis if it wasnt for him we may not have won this one. 134 yards on not to many carries didnt catch what they said. Also WR Quin Trimble mad a Dez Bryant like catch actually his catch was better then anything Dez had it was just a sick 1 hander twisting his body for about 40 yards.


Congrats Cujo nothing but respect here.

Thanks..I just saw the other thread about this game.

[PantherStang84]

That looks to be a given based on these first two outings. TWHS is lighting up the scoreboard, and we get 13 against JT :confused:

What's the deal? Is it the QB, play calling, O-line, all of the above, or what?

Personally, I believe that what has been holding Lufkin back the 3-4 years has been play calling on offense. Absolutely no creativity. They have been running the same 6 plays for 5 years now. You can't count on opposing d coordinators to be stupid forever no matter how many different formations you run those 6 plays from. The JT coaching staff did their homework. I wasn't at the game but it sounds like Lufkin never changed their play calling despite JT bringing the kitchen sink, refrigerator, blender, toaster and microwave oven on first downs. That left Lufkin with a lot of 2nd and 3rd and longs. Lufkin has been the beneficiary of a weak district the last 4 years. It appears TWHS is back to their form before Lufkin joined the district. The days of Lufkin just getting of the bus to get a win are coming to a close. Just ask Klein Forest.

[Favpack]

Personally, I believe that what has been holding Lufkin back the 3-4 years has been play calling on offense. Absolutely no creativity. They have been running the same 6 plays for 5 years now. You can't count on opposing d coordinators to be stupid forever no matter how many different formations you run those 6 plays from. The JT coaching staff did their homework. I wasn't at the game but it sounds like Lufkin never changed their play calling despite JT bringing the kitchen sink, refrigerator, blender, toaster and microwave oven on first downs. That left Lufkin with a lot of 2nd and 3rd and longs. Lufkin has been the beneficiary of a weak district the last 4 years. It appears TWHS is back to their form before Lufkin joined the district. The days of Lufkin just getting of the bus to get a win are coming to a close. Just ask Klein Forest.

JT has a very salty D. But, yeah, you can pretty much count on option pitch or screen pass on some formations. And, our pass routes sucked - just putrid. Jeff had a bad game too. But, they were begging us to just run the ball - and we finally obliged - which is how we scored our only second half points.

[Rapture]

good job cujo . i was hoping you would pull it off. i was getting updates on the game. i was disapointed to hear the final score. ohhh so close. i heard about the center screwing up 2

[99cujo]

13-12 Lufkin

Tough game. Claybon just didnt pick it uo tonight. Tho he did run the ball with success.

Other then the 45 yard TD run by JT Lufkin's defense was Lufkin like. JT' other score was set up on a TO were they had the ball at the 5, but Cujo's defense played just about as good as you could ask them to play.

One bright spot was Lufkin RB Trevon Lewis if it wasnt for him we may not have won this one. 134 yards on not to many carries didnt catch what they said. Also WR Quin Trimble mad a Dez Bryant like catch actually his catch was better then anything Dez had it was just a sick 1 hander twisting his body for about 40 yards.


Congrats Cujo nothing but respect here.Thanks That's all I wanted to hear. We lost no excuses !!! The better team won tonite. Not the ref. or our bad snap by the center we just lost but WE DID NOT QUIT AND WE ARE NOT A JOKE Congral Lufkin & hats off to y'all fans I was deep in the middle cheering for my Lions & they showed nothing but class.Good Ol East Texas Football.

[Rapture]

Thanks That's all I wanted to hear. We lost no excuses !!! The better team won tonite. Not the ref. or our bad snap by the center we just lost but WE DID NOT QUIT AND WE ARE NOT A JOKE Congral Lufkin & hats off to y'all fans I was deep in the middle cheering for my Lions & they showed nothing but class.Good Ol East Texas Football.
not the team but u r:p:cool:

[99cujo]

no the team but u r:p:cool:We will see who is the joke when KT find out that you are really BigRed and ban your butt again

[JMSFan]

We will see who is the joke when KT find out that you are really BigRed and ban your butt again

Look at you.... being a snitch.

[Rapture]

We will see who is the joke when KT find out that you are really BigRed and ban your butt again
you can call me who you want to joke. kt want listen to your idiot self

[Rapture]

Look at you.... being a snitch.
hey he is just mad because i made him go play patty cake. now he is trying to find a way to hav me banned:o:o:o:D:D ha ha ha !!! what a joke!!!