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A-12CNV
08-31-2008, 01:18 PM
If i'm not mistaken, last year Judson had they toughest schedule in the state. This year is like, 70th. I think this is a huge problem for us. Especially since the expectation of this year are giant. For example, in 97-98 we had probably one of the most physically talented teams to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom. We were SUPPOSED to dominate every game easily. Attitudes on the team suffered and we went 7-3 i think and lost pretty early in the playoffs. Do you think with these expectations coupled with this weak schedule will be a serious problem come the end of the season as we go into the playoffs. I do.

jrock89
08-31-2008, 02:04 PM
If i'm not mistaken, last year Judson had they toughest schedule in the state. This year is like, 70th. I think this is a huge problem for us. Especially since the expectation of this year are giant. For example, in 97-98 we had probably on of the most physically talented teams to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom. We were SUPPOSED to dominate every game easily. Attitudes on the team suffered and we went 7-3 i think and lost pretty early in the playoffs. Do you think with these expectations coupled with this weak schedule will be a serious problem come the end of the season as we go into the playoffs. I do.

Warren, SV, and Pflugerville in non-district does not constitute a weak schedule. True, district is not as tough as it was for last 28 previous years. Wagner, East Central and C.C. Carroll are all fairly legit in district. South San had a surprisingly dominant win in Week 0 and may be a little better than expected. I'm sure the Rockets will be ready when the time comes.

da wiz
08-31-2008, 02:10 PM
if i remember correctly, the playoffs is usually when yall turn it up a notch
and take it to the next level, hopefully rackley keeps all attitudes in check,
yall will be fine..

Mean DT
08-31-2008, 02:13 PM
Warren, SV, and Pflugerville in non-district does not constitute a weak schedule. True, district is not as tough as it was for last 28 previous years. Wagner, East Central and C.C. Carroll are all fairly legit in district. South San had a surprisingly dominant win in Week 0 and may be a little better than expected. I'm sure the Rockets will be ready when the time comes.It is true that the dist. is much weaker this season for Judson.:D

LoneRocket
08-31-2008, 02:23 PM
If i'm not mistaken, last year Judson had they toughest schedule in the state. This year is like, 70th. I think this is a huge problem for us. Especially since the expectation of this year are giant. For example, in 97-98 we had probably on of the most physically talented teams to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom. We were SUPPOSED to dominate every game easily. Attitudes on the team suffered and we went 7-3 i think and lost pretty early in the playoffs. Do you think with these expectations coupled with this weak schedule will be a serious problem come the end of the season as we go into the playoffs. I do.

The 1990 team was the most physically talented team to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom.

A-12CNV
08-31-2008, 02:29 PM
Warren, SV, and Pflugerville in non-district does not constitute a weak schedule. True, district is not as tough as it was for last 28 previous years. Wagner, East Central and C.C. Carroll are all fairly legit in district. South San had a surprisingly dominant win in Week 0 and may be a little better than expected. I'm sure the Rockets will be ready when the time comes.

The tough games are stacked at the begining of season. South San, nah. East Central-depends on the year, don't know a damn thing about CCCarroll which raises questions and Wag's hasn't reached their potential yet. My point is that the bulk of our schedule is cake with frosting. No madison, no reagan, we had SV but there won't be urgency week in and week out, in my opinion.

A-12CNV
08-31-2008, 02:33 PM
The 1990 team was the most physically talented team to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom.


It should say "one of the most"

LoneRocket
08-31-2008, 02:54 PM
The tough games are stacked at the begining of season. South San, nah. East Central-depends on the year, don't know a damn thing about CCCarroll which raises questions and Wag's hasn't reached their potential yet. My point is that the bulk of our schedule is cake with frosting. No madison, no reagan, we had SV but there won't be urgency week in and week out, in my opinion.

It is the coaches and players responsibility to have that sense urgency. In the old 2-6-5 in the 80’s and early to mid 90’s the district was not as strong as it is today and the program managed to get it done. They are in a new district and they just have to prepare and run with the hand they were dealt, those teams will get better if they want to be on that other level.

Biggems
08-31-2008, 03:24 PM
hopefully in 2 years SV and NB will join Judson and Wagner in the same district.

SMC020
08-31-2008, 04:01 PM
if i remember correctly, the playoffs is usually when yall turn it up a notch
and take it to the next level, hopefully rackley keeps all attitudes in check,
yall will be fine..

This is the 09 boys....there are no attitudes just good players. I don't think attitudes will be a concern at all. I'm just concerned that they will get use to not playing that hard and it will spill over into the playoffs. The coaches need to be just as hard on them as if they are winning or losing against tougher teams. I'm sorry to say but we need to have no mercy and play as hard as we can so we can be ready for the playoffs

LoneRocket
08-31-2008, 05:22 PM
This is the 09 boys....there are no attitudes just good players. I don't think attitudes will be a concern at all. I'm just concerned that they will get use to not playing that hard and it will spill over into the playoffs. The coaches need to be just as hard on them as if they are winning or losing against tougher teams. I'm sorry to say but we need to have no mercy and play as hard as we can so we can be ready for the playoffs

Do not be sorry that is what going to be done. A friend of mind who played for a NEISD school back in the day basically said some players on his team "played hurt" so they would not have to suit up against us, now that team is competitive. Teams in the district will get better look at the Vipers

They know the Prediction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1TxiVhrkZA

d-train
08-31-2008, 05:24 PM
The 1990 team was the most physically talented team to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom.
Reed, Stephens Hendricks... Lost to very talentd LBJ squad and to Marshall in finals.

RedRage00
08-31-2008, 05:27 PM
No one in this district will challenge Judson. Judson will roll over everyone, including East Central and Carroll.

CKE
08-31-2008, 05:28 PM
Wagner.....

uhsfilmcrew
08-31-2008, 05:34 PM
no doubt, but i think when judson enters the playoffs they might be a little less talented cause of the experience of District 27 teams. they'll come walking out saying the beast is back. but actually saying "we didnt play talented hardcore teams" by the time they reach the third or second round of the playoffs they can have a tough time.

LoneRocket
08-31-2008, 05:34 PM
Reed, Stephens Hendricks... Lost to very talentd LBJ squad and to Marshall in finals.

Yes and also Sears, Zunker, Silva, M Reed, Soto, Stokes, Morgan, Arnell and others I can not remember at this time. The most talented teams do not always make it to the promise land.

LoneRocket
08-31-2008, 05:35 PM
No one in this district will challenge Judson. Judson will roll over everyone, including East Central and Carroll.

The VIPERS will fight.

jrock210
08-31-2008, 06:14 PM
Warren, SV, and Pflugerville in non-district does not constitute a weak schedule. True, district is not as tough as it was for last 28 previous years. Wagner, East Central and C.C. Carroll are all fairly legit in district. South San had a surprisingly dominant win in Week 0 and may be a little better than expected. I'm sure the Rockets will be ready when the time comes.
Thanks for INCLUDING CC Carroll they always have a good team and no one gives them credit.
This is the 09 boys....there are no attitudes just good players. I don't think attitudes will be a concern at all. I'm just concerned that they will get use to not playing that hard and it will spill over into the playoffs. The coaches need to be just as hard on them as if they are winning or losing against tougher teams. I'm sorry to say but we need to have no mercy and play as hard as we can so we can be ready for the playoffsWe have one of the best defense'sthis year and it's all in 09!

Wagner.....
SUCKS!

RedRage00
08-31-2008, 06:16 PM
Thanks for INCLUDING CC Carroll they always have a good team and no one gives them credit.

They barely beat Laredo Alexander by 10.
A laredo school for crying out loud.

They gave up 28pts to L. alexander...Judson will steamroll for at least 50

jrock210
08-31-2008, 06:22 PM
They barely beat Laredo Alexander by 10.
A laredo school for crying out loud.

They gave up 28pts to L. alexander...Judson will steamroll for at least 50

Agreed 100%
This is the team expected to make 2nd in the 27!

Judsongrad87
08-31-2008, 09:59 PM
The 1990 team was the most physically talented team to walk through J-Rock, top to bottom.

I think the ol' '86 team was pretty darn talented myself.........:D

LoneRocket
08-31-2008, 10:02 PM
I think the ol' '86 team was pretty darn talented myself.........:D

That what I heard.

DiamondJ2
08-31-2008, 10:27 PM
16 times Region 3 teams have said the same thing about Judson having an easy route to the semifinals. Result: eleven of 16 times the Rockets went on to the state game. As stated earlier by another poster, 26 5A wasn't as competitive in the 80's and 90's from top to bottom as it has been in the last few year. If the Rockets take care of business and developed a "killer instinct", unlike last year's team during district play, then the predicted huge wins will aid the Rockets. Less wear and tear and the opportunity for back-ups to gain experience which can be valuable in case of injury to starters and acquiring game experience for juniors.

nikkit12
08-31-2008, 10:33 PM
Trust that if Judson can go 3-0 in preseason (not saying they will) against 3 really talented and dangerous teams, they will be fine later in the year when they are suppose to be really good.

rocketgrl94
08-31-2008, 11:11 PM
I think the ol' '86 team was pretty darn talented myself.........:D

92-93 were really talented look @ scores and points allowed:notworthy
well i think 93 had the better D then 92 did

jrock210
08-31-2008, 11:39 PM
Trust that if Judson can go 3-0 in preseason (not saying they will) against 3 really talented and dangerous teams, they will be fine later in the year when they are suppose to be really good.

They should be fine! They are Judson!

BandidoNB
09-01-2008, 03:28 AM
From what I have heard, Judson's district schedule didnt actually start getting tough until the late 90's up until last year.
Besides, from what I have seen, if a football team is good then it doesn't matter how hard or easy their district is; they will get it done in the end.

saMavsFan
09-01-2008, 03:38 AM
Agreed 100%
This is the team expected to make 2nd in the 27!

I'm not sure who is picking CCC to come in 2nd, but they're fooling themselves. I think everyone can see that when Judson and Wagner moved to 27 a new 1 & 2 moved in. East central got beat, bad, by Steele and Carroll barely got through Alexander. So, this is definitely an easier schedule than in previous years, but I don't think it takes away from how good Judson and Wagner will be this year.

Judson's got a good couple games coming up against SV and P'ville and I look for Wagner to put up some points on Roosevelt this week.

ktCarl
09-01-2008, 09:48 AM
Being from Katy and witnessing the weak schedules the Tigers have faced I now don't see what it really matters if you have a good team and program like Judson. I think there is too much emphasis placed on strength of schedule. If you're good, you will win no matter the opponent. Judson should benefit by a weaker schedule by winning with larger margins plus getting far enough ahead of their opponents to let second and third string guys get a chance to play and therefore bolstering the depth of the team. I would like to see a Judson/North Shore match up again in the semis. I think Judson will probably be O.K. especially with that head coach that spits fire and farts lightning bolts. :D

Isn't it strange how outsiders have more faith in other good programs than the people whom support those good programs. Over on the Katy Booster Club site there are a couple of people who are in panic mode because Katy lost to North Shore during the FIRST game of the season. :confused:

mad_fan
09-01-2008, 10:43 AM
Being from Katy and witnessing the weak schedules the Tigers have faced I now don't see what it really matters if you have a good team and program like Judson. I think there is too much emphasis placed on strength of schedule. If you're good, you will win no matter the opponent. Judson should benefit by a weaker schedule by winning with larger margins plus getting far enough ahead of their opponents to let second and third string guys get a chance to play and therefore bolstering the depth of the team. I would like to see a Judson/North Shore match up again in the semis. I think Judson will probably be O.K. especially with that head coach that spits fire and farts lightning bolts. :D

Isn't it strange how outsiders have more faith in other good programs than the people whom support those good programs. Over on the Katy Booster Club site there are a couple of people who are in panic mode because Katy lost to North Shore during the FIRST game of the season. :confused:

Ain't that the truth...

jrp83
09-01-2008, 10:50 AM
Being from Katy and witnessing the weak schedules the Tigers have faced I now don't see what it really matters if you have a good team and program like Judson. I think there is too much emphasis placed on strength of schedule. If you're good, you will win no matter the opponent. Judson should benefit by a weaker schedule by winning with larger margins plus getting far enough ahead of their opponents to let second and third string guys get a chance to play and therefore bolstering the depth of the team. I would like to see a Judson/North Shore match up again in the semis. I think Judson will probably be O.K. especially with that head coach that spits fire and farts lightning bolts. :D

Isn't it strange how outsiders have more faith in other good programs than the people whom support those good programs. Over on the Katy Booster Club site there are a couple of people who are in panic mode because Katy lost to North Shore during the FIRST game of the season. :confused:

I think as fans, when our teams loses, we look too hard for reasons for that loss. We start getting nit picky and over reacting to everything. I think that's just human nature. I know that last year alot of us Judson fans, including yours truly here, were getting real antsy when our beloved Rockets had a rough stretch & limped into the PO's. But as we all know now, and should have known then, once Judson gets in the dance, they step it up a notch and play at another level. I have no doubt that Katy will have alot to say come PO time. I am confident my Rockets will as well.

Go Rockets!!

Bottomline
09-01-2008, 01:53 PM
The BIGGEST opponent Judson must fear the most here is themselves. They must continue to play at THEIR level and not let themselves get caught up with a " weaker schedule ". They should remain focused and refuse to let anyone to compete with them. A weaker district schedule is not good because while you may be winning, you may actually be going backwards competitive wise. The battle here will more mental than anything else.

RedRage00
09-01-2008, 01:58 PM
The VIPERS will fight.

I heard good things from our defense but the offense needs work and if the offense goes up against that strong judson defense it could be a goose egg on the score board :eek::ninja:

jrock210
09-01-2008, 02:11 PM
I'm not sure who is picking CCC to come in 2nd, but they're fooling themselves. I think everyone can see that when Judson and Wagner moved to 27 a new 1 & 2 moved in. East central got beat, bad, by Steele and Carroll barely got through Alexander. So, this is definitely an easier schedule than in previous years, but I don't think it takes away from how good Judson and Wagner will be this year.

Judson's got a good couple games coming up against SV and P'ville and I look for Wagner to put up some points on Roosevelt this week.

I honestly think CC Carroll can beat Wagner. It will be a good game and I see CC Carroll coming out on top.
EC is going to be a push over game but don't take credit from Steele they aRe the best 4A team in the area!

RedRage00
09-01-2008, 04:08 PM
I honestly think CC Carroll can beat Wagner. It will be a good game and I see CC Carroll coming out on top.
EC is going to be a push over game but don't take credit from Steele they aRe the best 4A team in the area!

You need to wake up from this dream you are having. Carroll will not beat Wagner. Take off the Tiger colored glasses already. Carroll will never do anything. They barely escaped Laredo Alexander 38-28.

jrock210
09-01-2008, 04:35 PM
You need to wake up from this dream you are having. Carroll will not beat Wagner. Take off the Tiger colored glasses already. Carroll will never do anything. They barely escaped Laredo Alexander 38-28.

They will win state.....eventually. I will always have faith that this is Judson and CC Carroll's year every year. I don't care who they are playing (unless it's each other) I have faith they will get a W.

RedRage00
09-01-2008, 05:13 PM
They will win state.....eventually. I will always have faith that this is Judson and CC Carroll's year every year. I don't care who they are playing (unless it's each other) I have faith they will get a W.

:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

rocketgrl94
09-01-2008, 05:21 PM
:laugh:laugh:laugh

u wrong for that Rage!!!.......(pssssh!):laugh:laugh

lonny23
09-01-2008, 05:34 PM
Being from Katy and witnessing the weak schedules the Tigers have faced I now don't see what it really matters if you have a good team and program like Judson. I think there is too much emphasis placed on strength of schedule. If you're good, you will win no matter the opponent. Judson should benefit by a weaker schedule by winning with larger margins plus getting far enough ahead of their opponents to let second and third string guys get a chance to play and therefore bolstering the depth of the team. I would like to see a Judson/North Shore match up again in the semis. I think Judson will probably be O.K. especially with that head coach that spits fire and farts lightning bolts. :D

Isn't it strange how outsiders have more faith in other good programs than the people whom support those good programs. Over on the Katy Booster Club site there are a couple of people who are in panic mode because Katy lost to North Shore during the FIRST game of the season. :confused:The #1 key is to know how to win important playoff games. Playing tough teams helps you win in the playoffs. If you're used to winning playoff games, it doesn't matter nearly as much who you play during the year. If Judson changed all the coaches, I might be more worried about a weak district. I'm not worried about Rackley because he's been the head coach in 3 title games and an assistant in 7 more.:D

lonny23
09-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Here's my .02 on this back and forth about 27-5A:

Judson is legitimately good. They're going to be very hard for anybody to beat.

Highlands lost to Brackenridge by 28. They're terrible.

CC King beat Gregory-Portland 14-13. Out of respect for G-P, I didn't fire King. I expect to fire them very soon.

Victoria Memorial beat Taft 20-17, but Taft isn't very good. I fired the Vipers because 3 point wins over Taft don't translate into wins vs. better teams.

Wagner lost to SV by 22. For their sake, SV better beat Judson or Wagner better play a lot better. Right now, they look like they won't come within 3 TD's of Judson.

East Central lost to Steele 26-7. Steele being a good 4A team is the only thing that kept EC from getting fired. There is some hope that they might make the playoffs, but they don't look like a threat to Judson right now.

South San beat a terrible Holmes team, but they did it by 36 points. I didn't expect much from them going in, but they deserve more time because of the big win. I must add that Lee beat Holmes like that a few years ago and they were still last-place fodder when district rolled around. South San will probably be fired, but not yet.

CC Carroll won't compete with Judson. You can't beat Laredo by 10 and compete with Judson. They weren't fired because they tend to be a little better than the rest of the old 27-5A teams. They'll get fired eventually.

Bottomline
09-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Judsons JV would come in third in this district behind the varsity and Wagner :notworthy :laugh :notworthy