Abilene vs. Plano East

[a-hi eagle2309]

So Abilene just came off an expected whipping of Ft. worth dunbar, and looked very impressive on all sides of the ball. They play Plano East this friday. I havn't heard a whole lot about East, besides that they got beat pretty good by Flowermound. Thoughts??

[AE 8008]

abi by 2+ TD

[Eagle Hombre]

Good article about PESH --

Summarizes last season and goals for the 2008 season.

http://www.planostar.com/articles/2008/08/31/sports/schools/plano_east/90.txt

Changes at QB and OL may determine East's fate

http://www.planostar.com/articles/2008/08/31/sports/schools/plano_east/91.txt

DMN Football Preview

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/leaderboard/v3/plano/east/stories/082808dnspoplanoeastpreview.2a27cd3.html

I look forward to the game --

Eagle Up

[dragonsdaddy]

give your backups some extra practice time this week. they'll be trying to impress early vs pesh. it'll be ugly early and often. this is your week to have the crybabies castigate your class for running up the score. another week of uncertainty of how good you are due to lack of competition.

[AE 8008]

give your backups some extra practice time this week. they'll be trying to impress early vs pesh. it'll be ugly early and often. this is your week to have the crybabies castigate your class for running up the score. another week of uncertainty of how good you are due to lack of competition.


hopefully pesh will kick it up a notch this week, or at least tyler lee. if Abilene plays all season like they did against dunbar then they could set all kinds of records, but idk how much that will help come 3rd round of the playoffs

[tjw]

give your backups some extra practice time this week. they'll be trying to impress early vs pesh. it'll be ugly early and often. this is your week to have the crybabies castigate your class for running up the score. another week of uncertainty of how good you are due to lack of competition.

Sounds like this says it all

[AHSeagles]

give your backups some extra practice time this week. they'll be trying to impress early vs pesh. it'll be ugly early and often. this is your week to have the crybabies castigate your class for running up the score. another week of uncertainty of how good you are due to lack of competition.

This thought is what worries me. Tyler Lee looks to be a very solid team after giving Lufkin a heck of a game, but still only one game in a 10 game schedule isn't going to prepare us for what's to come in the playoffs.

[PlanoTexan]

I will be interested in seeing how the seniors at East respond. I was not at the FM-East game so I can not comment on their last performance. But by reading the score and stats I would be surprised if they don't come out and use 35 and 3 and try to run the ball. 35 only had five running touches and one was a 78 TD run.

I have already seen Allen and West and will get to see Plano on Friday night and East on Saturday.

Hopeing for safe travel for all AHS fans and spend lots of money in the Plano/Murphy restraunts.

[NHB06]

Plano plays Desoto on Thursday night, not Friday.

[PlanoTexan]

Thanks for correcting me. East plays AHS on Friday and Desoto and Plano tangle on Thursday.

[SLC13]

I will be interested in seeing how the seniors at East respond. I was not at the FM-East game so I can not comment on their last performance. But by reading the score and stats I would be surprised if they don't come out and use 35 and 3 and try to run the ball. 35 only had five running touches and one was a 78 TD run.

I have already seen Allen and West and will get to see Plano on Friday night and East on Saturday.

Hopeing for safe travel for all AHS fans and spend lots of money in the Plano/Murphy restraunts.

The PESH diehard who runs another board quoted his coach as saying:

Coach Ringo quote after the game: “We need 11 competitive players to play hard for us every down of the game,” Ringo said. “If we have to, we just may start pulling players from the JV to fill those gaps where players aren’t performing.”

That pretty much tells you everything.........

[PlanoTexan]

Interesting. Guess we will find out at Kimbrough stadium on Friday night.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

I will be interested in seeing how the seniors at East respond. I was not at the FM-East game so I can not comment on their last performance. But by reading the score and stats I would be surprised if they don't come out and use 35 and 3 and try to run the ball. 35 only had five running touches and one was a 78 TD run.

I have already seen Allen and West and will get to see Plano on Friday night and East on Saturday.

Hopeing for safe travel for all AHS fans and spend lots of money in the Plano/Murphy restraunts.

Plano plays Desoto on Thursday at Kimbrough. Should be a good one the way Desoto whipped MIdland in Midland. Polite their Soph QB is pretty good.

[a-hi eagle2309]

What I don't understand is that East is the biggest school in texas with almost 6,000 kids, and yet they can't find 22 athletes to compete. Is the coaching that bad? Or is there just no talent in the whole school?

[dragonsdaddy]

What I don't understand is that East is the biggest school in texas with almost 6,000 kids, and yet they can't find 22 athletes to compete. Is the coaching that bad? Or is there just no talent in the whole school?

yes

[a-hi eagle2309]

Thanks dragon daddy

[tmcran]

Humm! Perhaps all this smack will get to the PEH team and they will get it in gear. These kinds of teams always worry me. I feel that AHS has a rugged D and running on them was very tuff for Dunbar. But, the secondary for AHS still has holes. Guess we will see.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

The PESH diehard who runs another board quoted his coach as saying:

Coach Ringo quote after the game: “We need 11 competitive players to play hard for us every down of the game,” Ringo said. “If we have to, we just may start pulling players from the JV to fill those gaps where players aren’t performing.”

That pretty much tells you everything.........

Ringo has lost the program in my opinion. Once he applied for the SLC job it's been downhill for the program since then. Seeing him coach on the sideline during "greatest HS rivalies" on the NFL network last year told me all I had to know where PESH was headed. That's to bad because 2 years ago that team was rolling against Westfiedl and were on their way to playing Allen in the region 2 until RIKO SMALLS got hurt and they lost a 4th quarter lead.

[SLC13]

Ringo has lost the program in my opinion. Once he applied for the SLC job it's been downhill for the program since then. Seeing him coach on the sideline during "greatest HS rivalies" on the NFL network last year told me all I had to know where PESH was headed. That's to bad because 2 years ago that team was rolling against Westfiedl and were on their way to playing Allen in the region 2 until RIKO SMALLS got hurt and they lost a 4th quarter lead.

It's still a mystery why he even applied, he had to know he had no chance for the job. Too many SLC folks knew all about him and his body of work from his time at Coppell.......

[slcdragonfan]

How did Chris Williams look in the first outing? All that he can be?:)

[Warbird]

How did Chris Williams look in the first outing? All that he can be?:)

Just about. First tackle of the game. Later on he nailed the RB on a sweep on 4th down and popped the ball loose which Justin Carroll scooped and scored with. He also sniffed out a reverse on another 4th down and slung the ball carrier down right after the exchange.

[EagleDude73]

Abilene - End Of My Pick Sorry Pesh

[slcdragonfan]

Just about. First tackle of the game. Later on he nailed the RB on a sweep on 4th down and popped the ball loose which Justin Carroll scooped and scored with. He also sniffed out a reverse on another 4th down and slung the ball carrier down right after the exchange.

Would sure like an opportunity to see him play this year, against any team.

[AE 8008]

Would sure like an opportunity to see him play this year, against any team.

im thinking abilene plays @ Richland this year, correct me if im wrong, but thats not too far away

[exlobo]

The only road games during the regular season this year are this Friday at Plano, a Thursday night game against FW Paschal, and the last regular season game at North Crowley.............7 at home

[PlanoTexan]

East could very well lose the first 5 games this year. I don't see them being the pick against Abilene, Colleyville Hertiage, Skyline, or Plano.

Only time will tell. I see them Friday night for the 1st time. I watched the spring game and wondered how they were going move the ball with thepassing game. They need to use the big O-Line and play the running card. That will benefit them if they can hold onto the ball.

I want even begin to discuss the DC, he is still there and East has changed it base defense.

[biggolfdad]

How do we get to the stadium ? Is the game at Clark or Kimbrough ?

:confused:

[warbird00]

How do we get to the stadium ? Is the game at Clark or Kimbrough ?

:confused:

I heard Kimbrough

[PlanoTexan]

Game is at Kimbrough. Murphy Road in Murphy Texas.

[toonman]

So Abilene just came off an expected whipping of Ft. worth dunbar, and looked very impressive on all sides of the ball. They play Plano East this friday. I havn't heard a whole lot about East, besides that they got beat pretty good by Flowermound. Thoughts??


Easy win for Abilene.

[tjw]

Easy win for Abilene.

Well don't think East has beaten an Eagle team this decade :confused:

At least not the Allen Eagles :D

The stadium is http://maps.google.com/maphp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8

[PlanoTexan]

East did beat Richardon Eagles. I think of more later.:D

[tjw]

East did beat Richardon Eagles. I think of more later.:D

Stand corrected :o

OK, no AHS Eagles this decade, so keep it that way Abilene HS Eagles :D

[eaglefootball11]

Humm! Perhaps all this smack will get to the PEH team and they will get it in gear. These kinds of teams always worry me. I feel that AHS has a rugged D and running on them was very tuff for Dunbar. But, the secondary for AHS still has holes. Guess we will see.

Our secondary is actually doing fine, Dunbars only big passes were on our 2's and 3's

[a-hi eagle2309]

Our secondary is actually doing fine, Dunbars only big passes were on our 2's and 3's

This is true, Dunbar's D1 recruit wr didn't catch a single pass against the 1s. And if he did, it wasn't for a big gain.

[AbEagleFan]

Removing post.

Thanks AE 8008 for the input.

[BlackAttack]

East could very well lose the first 5 games this year. I don't see them being the pick against Abilene, Colleyville Hertiage, Skyline, or Plano.

Only time will tell. I see them Friday night for the 1st time. I watched the spring game and wondered how they were going move the ball with thepassing game. They need to use the big O-Line and play the running card. That will benefit them if they can hold onto the ball.

I want even begin to discuss the DC, he is still there and East has changed it base defense.

I can't believe they don't line up in the I and feed the ball to the 6'2" 230 4.5 runningback Opurem.

[tmcran]

How did Chris Williams look in the first outing? All that he can be?:)

He played his game. Teams that don't know #20 are in for a bad night. Well, I suppose teams that do know him are also in for a bad night.

[slcdragonfan]

He played his game. Teams that don't know #20 are in for a bad night. Well, I suppose teams that do know him are also in for a bad night.

How is he looking on offers? Has accepted a school yet?

[Warbird]

How is he looking on offers? Has accepted a school yet?

This is hearsay, but from what I understood from his friends on the sideline last Friday, he's looking to stay close to home. Tech is in the running, if nothing else but because of how close it is. I think LSU is also up there.

[slcdragonfan]

This is hearsay, but from what I understood from his friends on the sideline last Friday, he's looking to stay close to home. Tech is in the running, if nothing else but because of how close it is. I think LSU is also up there.

He'd certainly be an asset @ Tech and could probably get on the field pretty quickly. LSU would be a great choice as well, but he might have to wait a bit longer to contribute.

[Maxthedog]

East looked worse than I have ever seen them. Complete disconnect between players and coaching staff. Several 'NO your supposed to be in',,back and forth of players running around lost. Confusion amuck on the East sidelines. FM Looked very good for 1st game on O. Serious passing attack, or seriously bad preperation at East. Going to be a LONG year at PESH. Abbylean rolls over east this week. East district mates are licking their chops. Johnny RinGO

Flower Mound is going to be a difficult game for anyone.

[AbEagleFan]

He'd certainly be an asset @ Tech and could probably get on the field pretty quickly. LSU would be a great choice as well, but he might have to wait a bit longer to contribute.

Though he would be an asset to Tech, Tech's inability to win ALL the big games in a single season take away his chances to play for a national championship.

[tmcran]

This is true, Dunbar's D1 recruit wr didn't catch a single pass against the 1s. And if he did, it wasn't for a big gain.

From what I saw I think it was more due to the pass rush and pressure on the QB than a couple of guys in the secondary. I hope the problems they had last year or corrected this year. IMHO if we come up against a good passing team with a good "O" line we may have some concerns.

[Plano West Wolf]

East got blown out by an average team... Now they face a good one. I have a feeling this one'll get ugly.

[AHSeagles]

After one game you can't say the secondary is doing fine. We have the same weakness from a certain returning starter as we did last year. As the season goes on, his weakness will once again be exposed.

Not here to start an argument but fact is fact. The kid always gets burned, attempts arm and slap tackles, afraid to hit. All on film from last year. Mojo burned him up.

Well I saw the big 6'4'' WR from Dunbar line up on both sides of the field against both of our returning corners and neither of them got burned. As stated a couple of posts up, he only caught deep balls against our back up CB's and they tried to go deep several times and he was covered well everytime. I also didn't see any Eagle defenders shying away from contact or tackles, regardless or position.

[AbEagleFan]

Removing post.

Thanks AE 8008 for the input.

[AHSeagles]

Guess we saw a different game then.

Have to give credit to the pass rush on shutting down the passing game of Dunbar. Their scoring drive before half time was pretty much through the air.

Hope I am wrong but the kid is just afraid to hit and get hit which is why he allowed so many punt returns to go untouched last year. When he did catch, he ran like a tiger just as he did with the first punt return this season.

Last year most argued the secondary was fine and had no problems. Mojo targeted him and scored. SLC ate him up. Pflugerville's rb's were practically untouched once they reached the secondary. Unfortunatly no real tests (Perhaps Richland) won't occur until the playoffs.

That same kid also led the team in pics last year if I'm not mistaken. Say all you will about last year, but I saw none of that last Friday night. Also, he was targeted so much last year because most teams were too afraid to throw at our other corner, who was much more physically imposing, but he was far more afraid of contact than the corner you speak of. That's why a kid that big played corner and not safety or outside linebacker.

[AbEagleFan]

Removing post.

Thanks AE 8008 for the input.

[AE 8008]

No, he did not lead the team in pics. Looking for stats but I am not sure he even had a pic.

Dude, facts are facts... Sure, last year was last year but this year will be more of the same. I called it last year and am calling it again.

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he had multiple INT's. i attended no more than 5 games last year and saw him have more than one in the limited time i saw. and he was more physical than the other corner despite being much shorter and weighing alot less. im sure the coaches have worked hard with him on not being as timid; Warren stresses mental toughness significantly

[AbEagleFan]

he had multiple INT's. i attended no more than 5 games last year and saw him have more than one in the limited time i saw. and he was more physical than the other corner despite being much shorter and weighing alot less. im sure the coaches have worked hard with him on not being as timid; Warren stresses mental toughness significantly

We are not talking about the same player.

[AE 8008]

We are not talking about the same player.

pm

[AHSeagles]

We are not talking about the same player.

I'm not sure who you're talking about either then. The only player that returned punts is the same one whom me and AE8008 are referring to. If you're talking about out other starting CB this year, then I saw him make one heck of a play on a deep ball they attempted to the big WR and he went up and swatted it out of the air.

[tmcran]

WOW! I"m really confused now. Are we talking about AHS? :D

[AE 8008]

WOW! I"m really confused now. Are we talking about AHS? :D


wait...which AHS are you talking about? allen? amarillo?...:D

[tmcran]

wait...which AHS are you talking about? allen? amarillo?...:D

Humm, sorry I just thougt everyone knew AHS referred to Abilene High. :rolleyes:

[a-hi eagle2309]

Plano East if a far better team than what they showed last friday. There prolly not top 25 caliber, but deffinately better that what they showed. Their offensive coordinator is brand new this year, and he's trying to start the spread, which East isn't used to apparently. The offense really beat themselves with wild snaps and dropped balls, which can be mended with a week's worth of hard practice. Expect an Abilene win, but nobody needs to be over confident, especially when East has a 6'2 240 lb running back ;).

btw, correct me if i'm wrong about the new O.C. thats just what i heard

[dragonsdaddy]

Plano East if a far better team than what they showed last friday. There prolly not top 25 caliber, but deffinately better that what they showed. Their offensive coordinator is brand new this year, and he's trying to start the spread, which East isn't used to apparently. The offense really beat themselves with wild snaps and dropped balls, which can be mended with a week's worth of hard practice. Expect an Abilene win, but nobody needs to be over confident, especially when East has a 6'2 240 lb running back ;).

btw, correct me if i'm wrong about the new O.C. thats just what i heard
they have run the spread for 4 years, at least. they may be doing something different, as i haven't seen them this year. can't speak about a new oc. i am sure they are better than they played last week. will it show this week. i'd hate to take that bet, against a truly great team like ahs.

[paradox169]

last season I would have picked PESH, but since its a new season im going to have to go with AHS (Abilene High School) because after watching PESH play last week I believe there going to have a very short season ahead of them.
They just didnt come out and play like a team.

[AHSeagles]

last season I would have picked PESH, but since its a new season im going to have to go with AHS (Abilene High School) because after watching PESH play last week I believe there going to have a very short season ahead of them.
They just didnt come out and play like a team.

I would have picked Abilene last season, but since its a new season I'm still going to pick Abilene.:D

[republicaneagle]

Will the game be on the radio in the metroplex? I'm leaving to go out of town around 8 and want to catch the first half or so.

[Shoot2thrill]

I would have picked Abilene last season, but since its a new season I'm still going to pick Abilene.:D


I think this game will be closer than we think it will be. I am going with Abilene 34-17 with a tight first half and then we dominate in the second. I am going that way to see if my prediction is right. :)

[tjw]

I think this game will be closer than we think it will be. I am going with Abilene 34-17 with a tight first half and then we dominate in the second. I am going that way to see if my prediction is right. :)

Not if East doesn't get their act together, sounded like players & coach not on same page. If doesn't change can see them going 0-5 to start off the season. Also see why Massey has them projected to be 2-8 this year.

[DragonFan0316]

Not if East doesn't get their act together, sounded like players & coach not on same page. If doesn't change can see them going 0-5 to start off the season. Also see why Massey has them projected to be 2-8 this year.


Frankly I think all three Plano teams are overrated. Abilene will win this easy.

[tjw]

Looks like what was predicted, Abilene 55 - PESH 17

[Plano West Wolf]

Looks like what was predicted, Abilene 55 - PESH 17

Not shocking. East is way down this year.

[AE 8008]

17-14 Abilene at half, then exploded in the 2nd half

[Eagle Hombre]

http://www.hsgametime.com/dfw/schoolinfo.htm?infoType=boxScore&schoolId=0&sportId=3&propertyId=1&y=2008&m=09&eventId=156273

DMN game summary and stats.

The score could have been 62-17 but Abilene had a touchdown called back because of a holding call away from the play. Hershel Simms has some serious wheels.

[Hitman49]

I really thought this game would be closer!!

[bigdaddydog]

I really thought this game would be closer!!

As noted the first half was closer. East scored a TD in the last few seconds before the half and from the Abiline side it fired folks up. The Eagles came out fired up after half time. The coaches finally opened up the passing game and shredded the East "D". The eagles "D" picked up the momentum with a punt block and caused a fumble that they recovered.

Abiline hit their rythm and East, well they never found theirs.

I give my thanks to all the Abiline folks that we were sitting with and near, you guys were awesome. My friends and I were so glad we could experience this game with you all.

It is clear to me that Abiline deserves their top 5 AP ranking. :notworthy

GO AHS, Go Eagles!! :D

Cheers,


~

[AbEagleFan]

Looks like what was predicted, Abilene 55 - PESH 17

You were right about the first half, at least on the scoreboard. Abilene really moved the ball at will and had a touchdown called back during the first half even though they did convert it into a field goal. They just stalled on drives (or East stepped up).

Some spoke about the speed of the Sims boy this past summer. He is the real deal. Returned two kickoff's for touchdowns (95 yard) though the second was called back due to holding because one of our guys was laying on top of a defender on the ground while Sims ran by. This kid is fast, I mean very fast and only a Soph. It will be fun to watch how he develops throughout the season.

Abilene scored quick in the second half and a 17-14 lead all the sudden turned into blowout.

Next comes Cooper. Not knocking our two prior opponents but this should be a good test.

[tmcran]

Yep, Copper is going to really test the AHS secondary. They had four passing TD's of 40 yards are more. Both East TD's on pass plays.

[AHSeagles]

Yep, Copper is going to really test the AHS secondary. They had four passing TD's of 40 yards are more. Both East TD's on pass plays.

The second East TD I blame on the coaching calls. They had the ball on the 50 and 40 seconds to play and we were playing a prevent with our safeties 30 yards deep. Thus East would hit a receiver about 10 yards down field and he'd run it for another 15 since there was no one around and then sure enough they put it in. I think that was a little too conservative on behalf of the defensive coaching staff at that point.

[AbEagleFan]

The second East TD I blame on the coaching calls. They had the ball on the 50 and 40 seconds to play and we were playing a prevent with our safeties 30 yards deep. Thus East would hit a receiver about 10 yards down field and he'd run it for another 15 since there was no one around and then sure enough they put it in. I think that was a little too conservative on behalf of the defensive coaching staff at that point.

That's exactly how it happened. Pretty much a give me...

[AbEagleFan]

PE ran the hurry up offense most of the night. Is this their regular game plan or something the conjured up to throw off the AH defense?

[tjw]

PE ran the hurry up offense most of the night. Is this their regular game plan or something the conjured up to throw off the AH defense?

I only saw that when 1 yard or less for a 1st down as a couple times they were called for delay of game. Not their normal to hurry up.