PrepCastLive: #5 Southlake Carroll vs. Plano West

[ScottS]

Ok, the game is now less than 2 weeks away. Post your predictions here.

[drgnbkr]

91-3

[NHB06]

West wins a close one.

[bigdaddydog]

Ok, the game is now less than 2 weeks away. Post your predictions here.

I predict that we should have had a poll with this thread. :D

Plano West 28

SLC 24


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[TrojanHorse03]

Ok, the game is now less than 2 weeks away. Post your predictions here.

Southlake will win, the better question is how many sacks if any does Jackson Jeffcoat get against a usually stingy Carroll line?

[CenTex22]

Southlake by two touchdowns.

[SLC93]

I think that this group for the Dragons comes out fierce and starving to put their stamp on this era.

Carroll - 35
Plano W - 0

As a side note I also predict the young Mr. Jeffcoat will not sniff KP. Between the performance of the line and all the energy he's gonna expend trying to corner the scatter bug that is Avers he'll be worn out.:D

[Fleeman93]

In a defense battel West comes out on tip 13 - 9.

[TrinityTrojan80]

48-14 Slc

[TheBigPeach]

Southlake will win, the better question is how many sacks if any does Jackson Jeffcoat get against a usually stingy Carroll line?

Not many, this O-line is gonna be huge.


Carroll....BIG

[slcdragonfan]

I don't think the points will be huge, and the D out of the gate will need to get settled, so I'm saying 28-17, Dragons.

[allendad]

91-3


Hey bkr . . . . .

I really don't think West
will win by that much . . . . 91-3 !

:p

[RedRage00]

P. West

[the_phoenix612]

35-24 dragons

[dragonpants]

Ok, the game is now less than 2 weeks away. Post your predictions here.

Dragons by 21.

[drgnbkr]

Hey bkr . . . . .

I really don't think West
will win by that much . . . . 91-3 !

:p

:D;)

[Maroondog]

I think the Drags take it but it should say a bunch about both teams expectations and prognostications for the year.

[toonman]

Ok, the game is now less than 2 weeks away. Post your predictions here.

Thank you for this thread. I know that everything is right in the world now that we have a Scott S Prediction Thread. Dragons by 21+ points.

[SLC13]

Thank you for this thread. I know that everything is right in the world now that we have a Scott S Prediction Thread. Dragons by 21+ points.
Ditto.....the long off season wait is almost over

Dragons 20-10

[green day]

Final score and other events still a little fuzzy, but I will suggest the defense for SL will control the outcome. I would be surprised if Plano can get more than a couple scores. You have to see the Burnett/Richards tag team to understand why I feel that way. And if you maneuver around that, those LB's are very active.

The baseball team scored 10 against us last June. I think they'll do the same.

[SLC fan]

I would be surprised if Plano can get more than a couple scores. You have to see the Burnett/Richards tag team to understand why I feel that way. And if you maneuver around that, those LB's are very active.



How are the DTs?

[green day]

How are the DTs?

Team 1 featured Garrett Simms and Lincoln Schick on Saturday. Both juniors, Lincoln is perfect down there, played LB last year at JV. They'll be pushed by jr Robbie Hallimann... not sure who else is in that battle, especially from a senior standpoint.

[Plano West Wolf]

I'm feeling something like 30 - 27. Plano West wins on a last second field goal! :D

[yankee]

anybody got some info on what this plano west team is like? returning starters, depth, etc. etc...

[texan_75010]

SLC in a walk....38 - 9

[biggolfdad]

SLC by 30.

Snow-white 81 says SLC by 30 also.

;)

[toonman]

I find amazing that anyone would pick a team with a 5 year record 34-20 (Plano West) over a team with a 5 year record of 74-3 (Southlake Carroll).

[ScottS]

I'll go with 39-14 SLC. Is it possible to get 39?

[CCHS77]

I'll go with 39-14 SLC. Is it possible to get 39?

13 FGs

[drgnbkr]

13 FGs

Go Cade!:p

[EagleDude73]

I'll go with 39-14 SLC. Is it possible to get 39?

Possible but not likely. I'll go on record for PW. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/green/greensmilies-008.gif

[KLH75287]

Drags by 13

[DragonBand06]

I'll go with 39-14 SLC. Is it possible to get 39?5 TDs and 2 Safeties
13 FGs
6 FGs and 3 missed XP
5 TDs with one 2-Point Conversion and a FG

[green day]

I predict a strong Southlake fan showing, and an equally strong showing from the Wolves. It won't be Bull-ish, but I bet we get 15K in the stands...

[dragonpants]

I predict a strong Southlake fan showing, and an equally strong showing from the Wolves. It won't be Bull-ish, but I bet we get 15K in the stands...

Don't forget the game afterward. Highland Park will have a strong showing since it is in their backyard.

I do not know how well Red Oak travels but is still a local game for them.

[NHB06]

Don't forget the game afterward. Highland Park will have a strong showing since it is in their backyard.

I do not know how well Red Oak travels but is still a local game for them.

West does not have much fan support, so don't expect much of a showing from the fans. However, the Wolves are out to prove that they can win against top notch teams like SLC, so I expect a great game.

[RedRage00]

nm

[ScottS]

bump

[dragons08]

its officially football season i guess. scott got the prediction thread rolling.

[Plano West Wolf]

I'm going to watch the Plano West scrimmage tonight. If the Dragons have their scrimmage tonight (it seems like all the teams do, so I'm just guessing), could somebody post on this thread how they look? I'm actually trying to formulate an accurate prediction without a homer bias.

[ScottS]

I'm going to watch the Plano West scrimmage tonight. If the Dragons have their scrimmage tonight (it seems like all the teams do, so I'm just guessing), could somebody post on this thread how they look? I'm actually trying to formulate an accurate prediction without a homer bias.

I'll post stuff tonight when I get home.

[Plano West Wolf]

I'll post stuff tonight when I get home.

Thanks. :D

[green day]

Wasson will need to study film, but he is going to like what he saw tonite at Dragon Stadium.

Grapevine needs some stick-um.

Too many penalties.

Padron is a stud.

[ScottS]

I didn't get to go.:mad: We had some car issues. Any details from this would be great.

[drgnbkr]

I didn't get to go.:mad: We had some car issues. Any details from this would be great.

Avers and John Nathan broke some long runs. Piland looked good.

[Memorial76]

SLC: O look good in spots. 1st D looked good with the exception of a couple pass plays. Still need to work on crispness, but it is a long season. Grapevine will struggle
this year.

[green day]

Let me give some other take-aways...

Padron to Popkin worked well

LB crew very active

Snaps crisp, in general

K Foster good on one, awful on another

K Foster is a linebacker

CB Rodgers secured a starting spot at Ford

Beasley at the other, I think

Good stuff, tonite!

[SLC93]

Wasson will need to study film, but he is going to like what he saw tonite at Dragon Stadium.

Grapevine needs some stick-um.

Too many penalties.

Padron is a stud.

I think he's going to shine this season. KP's a very good athlete with an even better attitude. He's got a charisma about him. Not quite the same as his brothers but it's his own and it appears to be strong.

[Plano West Wolf]

I, unfortunately, did not make the West scrimmage. Long story short, somebody might have gotten some film of it, so that should give me something to look at.

[green day]

I think he's going to shine this season. KP's a very good athlete with an even better attitude. He's got a charisma about him. Not quite the same as his brothers but it's his own and it appears to be strong.

Agreed, agreed, agreed,

SLC, we're ready to roll...

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Padron to Popkin worked well

I talked this kid up after I saw them in 7-on-7. I think a lot of folks underestimated Popkin. He may not be a jaw-dropper but I think he's going to have a great yaer.

[green day]

I talked this kid up after I saw them in 7-on-7. I think a lot of folks underestimated Popkin. He may not be a jaw-dropper but I think he's going to have a great yaer.

Josh is a great example of how you can get better via JV your junior year, preparing for the next. He will be a deep threat and KP trusts him.

Also, a soph to be, Moser, turned some heads toward the end of the evening...at the inside slot postion, I think. He wore 87.

[tjw]

Wow not even in the Pickem contest :confused:
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#24 Lewisville Hebron vs Wylie
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Tyler Lee vs #11 Lufkin
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SA Madison @ SA O'Connor
#3 Converse Judson vs SA Warren
SA Southwest vs Georgetown
McAllen vs Harlingen

From the blogs here sounds like two defensive teams so my prediction in a close one 14-10 Plano West. ;)

[SLC93]

Too much of a gimme to be in the pick 'em. Carroll rolls in this opener.

[Plano West Wolf]

Wow not even in the Pickem contest :confused:
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#20 Odessa Permian vs Duncanville
Arlington Lamar vs Keller Fossil Ridge
#10 Arlington Bowie @ Trotwood Madison (OH)
#24 Lewisville Hebron vs Wylie
Cedar Hill @ Cincinnati La Salle (OH)
#4 Allen vs Longview (4A)
Tyler Lee vs #11 Lufkin
Bryan vs Cy Falls
College Park vs Humble Kingwood
The Woodlands vs Cy Fair
#19 Cy Ridge vs #21 Humble
#22 RR Stony Point vs SA Alamo Heights (4A)
Cedar Park @ Austin Westlake
Leander vs #17 Pflugerville
#14 Katy @ #8 North Shore
#13 Aldine Eisenhower @ #12 FB Hightower
SA Madison @ SA O'Connor
#3 Converse Judson vs SA Warren
SA Southwest vs Georgetown
McAllen vs Harlingen

From the blogs here sounds like two defensive teams so my prediction in a close one 14-10 Plano West. ;)

I'm surprised Plano West is getting this much love! Do people really have confidence in us or do they all just hate Southlake? lol

I bet Jeffcoat's going to get 3 sacks, one causing a fumble which he returns for a touchdown. Mark it down!

[green day]

With the pre-season schedule completed, it is time to polish up the crystal ball, beginning with the zero week opener with the PW Wolves. Here's what you can expect to see next week...

* After a Dragon receiver clearly makes a clean catch, refs blow the call and rule the pass bounced in the turf first. SL Coach Larry Hughes, flashing back to a similar play in last summer's state baseball title game, goes ballistic and is immediately ejected from the game, completing a rare daily double.

* During the pre game discussion, officials and coaches agree to allow SL an extra time-out, as a result of Coach Wasson not using his full allottment in last years finale. ( ouch!)

* Highland Park HS fans are seen passing out flyers inviting others to come watch the Scots during the regular season, BYOS ... Bring your own Sushi

* June Jones observes the game from the sideline, virtually unnoticed without his lei

* Hal's angels come out smokin' grabbing an early lead and never look back, winning their opener 45-10. A late Jeffcoat fumble return for a TD the lone score for the Wolves ;), who nonetheless show promise for the upcoming season.

* The Chauncey Willingham era begins on a positive note.

* A couple of long time Dragon fans watch the game together, from the best seats in the house.

Good luck to both teams ! Let's have a great season...



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[dragonsdaddy]

I'm surprised Plano West is getting this much love! Do people really have confidence in us or do they all just hate Southlake? lol

I bet Jeffcoat's going to get 3 sacks, one causing a fumble which he returns for a touchdown. Mark it down!

of course it is slc haters.

[Plano West Wolf]

* Hal's angels come out smokin' grabbing an early lead and never look back, winning their opener 45-10. A late Jeffcoat fumble return for a TD the lone score for the Wolves ;), who nonetheless show promise for the upcoming season.


Yo, I think you got the final score backwards. :cool:

[green day]

Yo, I think you got the final score backwards. :cool:

:) You guys hang 45 on us, and I'll sell my house and move to China Grove...

[tjw]

:) You guys hang 45 on us, and I'll sell my house and move to China Grove...

Now that I want to see!:D

[green day]

With the pre-season schedule completed, it is time to polish up the crystal ball, beginning with the zero week opener with the PW Wolves. Here's what you can expect to see next week...

* After a Dragon receiver clearly makes a clean catch, refs blow the call and rule the pass bounced in the turf first. SL Coach Larry Hughes, flashing back to a similar play in last summer's state baseball title game, goes ballistic and is immediately ejected from the game, completing a rare daily double.

* During the pre game discussion, officials and coaches agree to allow SL an extra time-out, as a result of Coach Wasson not using his full allottment in last years finale. ( ouch!)

* Highland Park HS fans are seen passing out flyers inviting others to come watch the Scots during the regular season, BYOS ... Bring your own Sushi

* June Jones observes the game from the sideline, virtually unnoticed without his lei

* Hal's angels come out smokin' grabbing an early lead and never look back, winning their opener 45-10. A late Jeffcoat fumble return for a TD the lone score for the Wolves ;), who nonetheless show promise for the upcoming season.

* The Chauncey Willingham era begins on a positive note.

* A couple of long time Dragon fans watch the game together, from the best seats in the house.

Good luck to both teams ! Let's have a great season...



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I also wish to go on record to predict that both teams will represent their schools, Texas HS football and finally, Mr. Landry himself with the utmost honor and sportsmanship....We need more people like Landry these days. Great to see his legend lives on amongst young athletes...

[SLC93]

I'm surprised Plano West is getting this much love! Do people really have confidence in us or do they all just hate Southlake? lol

I bet Jeffcoat's going to get 3 sacks, one causing a fumble which he returns for a touchdown. Mark it down!

I think it's far more likely he doesn't even smell Padron. That is not a shot at the young man. I'm merely pointing out that who else is there to really game plan for? He will be schemed right out of this one. Its also a compliment to one of the most underappreciated parts of Carroll's success, the oline.

[SLC93]

With the pre-season schedule completed, it is time to polish up the crystal ball, beginning with the zero week opener with the PW Wolves. Here's what you can expect to see next week...

* After a Dragon receiver clearly makes a clean catch, refs blow the call and rule the pass bounced in the turf first. SL Coach Larry Hughes, flashing back to a similar play in last summer's state baseball title game, goes ballistic and is immediately ejected from the game, completing a rare daily double.

* During the pre game discussion, officials and coaches agree to allow SL an extra time-out, as a result of Coach Wasson not using his full allottment in last years finale. ( ouch!)

* Highland Park HS fans are seen passing out flyers inviting others to come watch the Scots during the regular season, BYOS ... Bring your own Sushi

* June Jones observes the game from the sideline, virtually unnoticed without his lei

* Hal's angels come out smokin' grabbing an early lead and never look back, winning their opener 45-10. A late Jeffcoat fumble return for a TD the lone score for the Wolves ;), who nonetheless show promise for the upcoming season.

* The Chauncey Willingham era begins on a positive note.
* A couple of long time Dragon fans watch the game together, from the best seats in the house.

Good luck to both teams ! Let's have a great season...



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First of all, two a days have you sharp like a master chefs favorite knife. Your in mid season form my friend so allow me the first :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy of this season. Second and highlighted, I know his title is interim but let's all give this man a sincere and reflective round of applause for his lifetime of service. Anything CISD has ever asked of him, he's done. He was my high school principal for three years before being reassigned because we brought in some high dollar doctorate. My senior class insisted on being presented our diplomas by Mr.Willingham. As an avid fisherman,we all gave him a fishing lure, and in my case a hug, as we wallked the stage. There is not a finer man walking the earth today. His committment to the kids of that community is unrivaled by anyone who has ever walked the halls of a Carroll campus. If we have a brain in our collective heads we would give him serious consideration for the job on a fulltime basis.

[SLC93]

I also wish to go on record to predict that both teams will represent their schools, Texas HS football and finally, Mr. Landry himself with the utmost honor and sportsmanship....We need more people like Landry these days. Great to see his legend lives on amongst young athletes...

Agreed. I also think it's neat that a Jeffcoat is representing Landry again.:)

[SLC93]

Yo, I think you got the final score backwards. :cool:

:) You guys hang 45 on us, and I'll sell my house and move to China Grove...

Now that I want to see!:D

Thank god for the return of football season and, with it, legitimate trash talkin!:D

[Plano West Wolf]

:) You guys hang 45 on us, and I'll sell my house and move to China Grove...

You've got yourself a deal! :D

[Plano West Wolf]

I think it's far more likely he doesn't even smell Padron. That is not a shot at the young man. I'm merely pointing out that who else is there to really game plan for? He will be schemed right out of this one. Its also a compliment to one of the most under appreciated parts of Carroll's success, the oline.

You're not the first person to think of that. Almost every team we played last year schemed to take him out and it almost never worked. However, when he is taken out, it usually opened things up for fellow defensive linemen Ameen Behbahani (second team all-district), who had a knack last year for making some really big plays (blocked kicks and punts, a clutch sacks and third down run stuffs). So if Jeffcoat is taken out, you'll probably be hearing his name alot.

[Plano West Wolf]

Thank god for the return of football season and, with it, legitimate trash talkin!:D

Well, if we don't win, I'll feel better about winning the trash talking game beforehand. :D

[drgnbkr]

Well, if we don't win, I'll feel better about winning the trash talking game beforehand. :D

West has no chance in either arena...:D

[dragonsdaddy]

if the heat is anything like we saw in indiana, i suspect jeffcoat will suffer some of the same fate as many in that game. the big men take the most punishment and get cramps worse than the little guys.august is especially hard on linemen.

[Plano West Wolf]

West has no chance in either arena...:D

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/060809dnspohsbaseledefornews.cdf1ae6.html

That is my defense. It's a very good one. lol

[Plano West Wolf]

if the heat is anything like we saw in indiana, i suspect jeffcoat will suffer some of the same fate as many in that game. the big men take the most punishment and get cramps worse than the little guys.august is especially hard on linemen.

Could go both ways. Some of your o-linemen might cramp up, and Jeffcoat might rip right through them.

[green day]

Ford stadium has been known to foster serious cramps...no bull...we'll benefit from Geno work, as usual

[drgnbkr]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/060809dnspohsbaseledefornews.cdf1ae6.html

That is my defense. It's a very good one. lol

I was there and it was hot in Round Rock also...you guys won, but it could have gone either way...What that has to do with Saturday, I do not know...Were talkin football here.

[farmerfan]

I was there and it was hot in Round Rock also...you guys won, but it could have gone either way...What that has to do with Saturday, I do not know...Were talkin football here.

Yo Backer, you bringing the Pompous to Ford this week or what?
It'll be too hot for farmers liking and he's looking forward to that UT/UCLA and Bammer/Clemson game.
Best of luck and go get them Collin County doggies

[DrEdward]

With the pre-season schedule completed, it is time to polish up the crystal ball, beginning with the zero week opener with the PW Wolves. Here's what you can expect to see next week...

* After a Dragon receiver clearly makes a clean catch, refs blow the call and rule the pass bounced in the turf first. SL Coach Larry Hughes, flashing back to a similar play in last summer's state baseball title game, goes ballistic and is immediately ejected from the game, completing a rare daily double.

* During the pre game discussion, officials and coaches agree to allow SL an extra time-out, as a result of Coach Wasson not using his full allottment in last years finale. ( ouch!)

* Highland Park HS fans are seen passing out flyers inviting others to come watch the Scots during the regular season, BYOS ... Bring your own Sushi

* June Jones observes the game from the sideline, virtually unnoticed without his lei

* Hal's angels come out smokin' grabbing an early lead and never look back, winning their opener 45-10. A late Jeffcoat fumble return for a TD the lone score for the Wolves ;), who nonetheless show promise for the upcoming season.

* The Chauncey Willingham era begins on a positive note.

* A couple of long time Dragon fans watch the game together, from the best seats in the house.

Good luck to both teams ! Let's have a great season...



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:notworthy Very well done. :D :notworthy

[DrEdward]

Yo Backer, you bringing the Pompous to Ford this week or what?
It'll be too hot for farmers liking and he's looking forward to that UT/UCLA and Bammer/Clemson game.
Best of luck and go get them Collin County doggies

There you go with those evil thoughts again. :D Use your DVR and go to the game.

[drgnbkr]

Yo Backer, you bringing the Pompous to Ford this week or what?
It'll be too hot for farmers liking and he's looking forward to that UT/UCLA and Bammer/Clemson game.
Best of luck and go get them Collin County doggies

Can't handle the heat huh? We'll be in the park to the North of the stadium and who knows? There may be a way to cool down with us! Pre-game you know....:D

[SLC93]

Ford stadium has been known to foster serious cramps...no bull...we'll benefit from Geno work, as usual

For the record, I caught that. My thoughts on the undercover poke at the male bovine? Classic!:D

[Plano West Wolf]

I was there and it was hot in Round Rock also...you guys won, but it could have gone either way...What that has to do with Saturday, I do not know...Were talkin football here.

It was kind of an "Aid in trash talk."

On a different note, it seems like we've been playing you guys alot as of late. I saw a couple Carroll ISD buses by the tennis court when I went to go make amends to my schedule.

I'm gunna stop the trash talking, I don't want to eat too much crow after the game if it goes the wrong way.

[Plano West Wolf]

Ford stadium has been known to foster serious cramps...no bull...we'll benefit from Geno work, as usual

I heard that it is relatively shaded on the home side, is that true? I've only been to Ford once and I wasn't really paying much attention to the stadium then.

[DrEdward]

I heard that it is relatively shaded on the home side, is that true? I've only been to Ford once and I wasn't really paying much attention to the stadium then.

At 4:30 in the afternoon, the press box on the west side stands ought to be casting a long shadow.

[tjw]

I heard that it is relatively shaded on the home side, is that true? I've only been to Ford once and I wasn't really paying much attention to the stadium then.

Most stadiums are N-S with the homeside on West side so the visitors are basking in the sun.

Good thing is only 5 more days before this games played.

[drgnbkr]

It was kind of an "Aid in trash talk."

On a different note, it seems like we've been playing you guys alot as of late. I saw a couple Carroll ISD buses by the tennis court when I went to go make amends to my schedule.

I'm gunna stop the trash talking, I don't want to eat too much crow after the game if it goes the wrong way.

I think we're just having fun..seldom does it rise to the level of trash....Does anyone know who will be home team? I sure hope we are on the press box side...looking into the sun from the East Side of the stadium is going to be brutal.

[green day]

I think we're just having fun..seldom does it rise to the level of trash....Does anyone know who will be home team? I sure hope we are on the press box side...looking into the sun from the East Side of the stadium is going to be brutal.

Bring your cool rays, Back. I thought I heard Wasson say we'll be on the other side this time. I could be wrong...


10 day weather outlook for Sat-partly cloudy, high 93

[SLC93]

It was kind of an "Aid in trash talk."

On a different note, it seems like we've been playing you guys alot as of late. I saw a couple Carroll ISD buses by the tennis court when I went to go make amends to my schedule.

I'm gunna stop the trash talking, I don't want to eat too much crow after the game if it goes the wrong way.

WEAK!

:eek:;):D

[farmerfan]

There you go with those evil thoughts again. :D Use your DVR and go to the game.

Evil is my new middle name it seems.
I took a ripping my from Trinity friends last night at the scrimmage for some of my thoughts about this upcoming season :eek:
Normally I would DVR it but I am too excited about the start of College football to leave my couch and cooler.
Sorry Doc.
Probably see you all at the Shore game

[DrEdward]

Evil is my new middle name it seems.
I took a ripping my from Trinity friends last night at the scrimmage for some of my thoughts about this upcoming season :eek:
Normally I would DVR it but I am too excited about the start of College football to leave my couch and cooler.
Sorry Doc.
Probably see you all at the Shore game

Well I can certainly understand the excitement of the first college football games of the season; my guys play that day as well. But I will simply have to record it and go see the Dragons play. But I will decidedly look for you at the North Shore game and will have to get my DVR working on the college games again that day. Another overwhelming reason why high school football should be played on Friday nights and the college game on Saturdays.

[dragons08]

Yo Backer, you bringing the Pompous to Ford this week or what?
It'll be too hot for farmers liking and he's looking forward to that UT/UCLA and Bammer/Clemson game.
Best of luck and go get them Collin County doggies

who are you kidding, we all know you'll be watching your favorite tv show man.

[dragons08]

what time is this game on saturday?

[farmerfan]

who are you kidding, we all know you'll be watching your favorite tv show man.

:eek:
i know not what you speak of young band friend:eek:

[dragons08]

:eek:
i know not what you speak of young band friend:eek:

not a band kid anymore sire.

[farmerfan]

Well I can certainly understand the excitement of the first college football games of the season; my guys play that day as well. But I will simply have to record it and go see the Dragons play. But I will decidedly look for you at the North Shore game and will have to get my DVR working on the college games again that day. Another overwhelming reason why high school football should be played on Friday nights and the college game on Saturdays.

You and your fellow Dragon fans are welcome to come offer support to a fellow district member this Friday night at the Gopher Bowl and just to see how you dont need to worry about us come November;)

[farmerfan]

not a band kid anymore sire.

college friend?

[dragons08]

college friend?

or your safteynet....:cool:

[Favpack]

9-7

These two offenses are always weak.

Wait... we are talking about the baseball finals right?

[farmerfan]

or your safteynet....:cool:

How about
Southlake safetynet friend?

Go Dragons, lets put a whipping on 8-5A this week and have Marcus and Hebron follow it up in the coming weeks

[dragons08]

How about
Southlake safetynet friend?

Go Dragons, lets put a whipping on 8-5A this week and have Marcus and Hebron follow it up in the coming weeks

sounds good.

give me a call if you're going up to any games, i'll come join ya.

[drgnbkr]

what time is this game on saturday?

4:30 is gametime- Be at the little park to the North of the stadium prior and say hi!

[dragons08]

4:30 is gametime- Be at the little park to the North of the stadium prior and say hi!

eh, idk. if i am going, stadium has a lot of steps if i remember right..

i can't do steps so well right now.

i'll decide later in the week, i'll let ya know then.

[farmerfan]

sounds good.

give me a call if you're going up to any games, i'll come join ya.

Will do. Not even my favorite tv show will stop me from going to HS games, of course I do have all the epis on DVD so its not like its too much of a sacrifice.:cool:

[dragons08]

Will do. Not even my favorite tv show will stop me from going to HS games, of course I do have all the epis on DVD so its not like its too much of a sacrifice.:cool:

Very good idea sir. Once football season is over you can resume your progress through the seasons.

[farmerfan]

Very good idea sir. Once football season is over you can resume your progress through the seasons.

Oh I will and I will cry just as hard as I did when I watched them the first time.
Very emotional and traumatic for me :(

[dragonbuck]

For the record, I caught that. My thoughts on the undercover poke at the male bovine? Classic!:D

GreenDay is in rare form this year - as if he has skin in the game or something?!?

[green day]

GreenDay is in rare form this year - as if he has skin in the game or something?!?

;) Just call 'em as I see 'em, Uncle Dragonbuck... plus, hoping to make that 1K post this fall:):)

[jc84chill]

Guys/Gals,

It looks like this game will be added to the PrepCastLive Lineup for Week 0! This is great news for those of us who won't be able to make it.

I'll start a game thread soon and merge this discussion into that thread

[drgnbkr]

Guys/Gals,

It looks like this game will be added to the PrepCastLive Lineup for Week 0! This is great news for those of us who won't be able to make it.

I'll start a game thread soon and merge this discussion into that thread

I think it's gonna take a game to slap us all out of our political infightin!

[SLC13]

Does anyone have any parking info for Saturday, ie. open lots, restricted areas/streets etc.

[jc84chill]

I think it's gonna take a game to slap us all out of our political infightin!

No kidding...it can't get here fast enough:)

[jc84chill]

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/Team Helmets/Helmets/SouthlakeCarroll.gif @ http://www.5atexasfootball.com/Team Helmets/Helmets/PlanoWest.gif

#5 SOUTHLAKE CARROLL (0-0)                            PLANO WEST (0-0)

Date and Time: August 30th, 2008 (4:30pm)
Where: Ford Stadium

Live PrepCast:
LINK COMING ON GAMEDAY


-You get play-by-play updates, instantly refreshed statistics, and live graphics that track the action.

[dragonbuck]

;) Just call 'em as I see 'em, Uncle Dragonbuck... plus, hoping to make that 1K post this fall:):)

I was "all state" when you were a "starter." Now you are "all american," and I am still "all state." I'd say you've ramped it up a tad.

[dragons08]

I was "all state" when you were a "starter." Now you are "all american," and I am still "all state." I'd say you've ramped it up a tad.

Somebody must have a lot of free time...lonny watch out!

[bigdaddydog]

Does anyone have any parking info for Saturday, ie. open lots, restricted areas/streets etc.

Get there early. :) At least it's the first game of the day.

This would be a good place to start I suppose.

SMU Game Day Parking: (http://www.smu.edu/SF/Family%20Weekend/FWParkingInfo.asp)
SMU Campus Map: (http://www.smu.edu/maps/campus.asp)


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[ScottS]

With parking at SMU, it seems its tough to come by. For the MNW game, I had to park about 2 miles away in a CVS parking lot.

[green day]

Approx. 3 blocks west of stadium is the HP Middle school, plenty of parking and a nice walk. Was EZ to exit out. Scot fans coming in later will head there, I hear.

[TulsaHale74]

With parking at SMU, it seems its tough to come by. For the MNW game, I had to park about 2 miles away in a CVS parking lot.
Had to downgrade from an IHOP? Of course CVS had more of what you needed than an IHOP after that SMU visit.:D

I don't think you'll be needing CVS this time. Campisi's maybe.

[SLC fan]

Any predictions about our starting lineup for Saturday? I'm curious to see how many seniors start. It sounds like there will be more than would have been predicted a year ago at this time. Perhaps the senior class is deeper than originally thought?

[green day]

Any predictions about our starting lineup for Saturday? I'm curious to see how many seniors start. It sounds like there will be more than would have been predicted a year ago at this time. Perhaps the senior class is deeper than originally thought?

Let me give this a shot...

Padron
Avers
Rake
Popkin
Walker
Renger
McWhirter
Barone
Weaver
Boyles
Meeks

Simms
Schick
Burnett
Richards
Foster
Osbourne
Wilson
Jameson
Agnew
Rodgers
Beazley

Just about how I saw it two years ago...:)

I'll go thru special teams later...

[SLC fan]

Let me give this a shot...

Padron
Avers
Rake
Popkin
Walker
Renger
McWhirter
Barone
Weaver
Boyles
Meeks

Simms
Schick
Burnett
Richards
Foster
Osbourne
Wilson
Jameson
Agnew
Rodgers
Beazley

Just about how I saw it two years ago...:)

I'll go thru special teams later...

Thanks for the prediction. I knew I could count on you to respond.

So who are the juniors? Avers, Barone, Weaver, Renger, Richards, Simms, Schick, Foster, Osbourne, Beazley, and Agnew are juniors I recognize from either last year or the various discussions on this board. Are there any others?

Some other questions:

1. Who do you think will be the #2 QB? It seems that there are three good juniors from what I've read on here.

2. Do you think we'll regularly play 5 or 6 WRs like we occasionally have in the past? If so, who do you think will be the first guys off the bench? A lot of receivers have been mentioned at various points as possible contributors (even one sophomore as I recall).

3. How's the backup RB? We've tended to be weak there in the past (although Avers was a pretty good #2 last year).

4. Josh Rake is the starting WR you're referring to, right? You think Matt will be a backup I take it?

[green day]

Thanks for the prediction. I knew I could count on you to respond.

So who are the juniors? Avers, Barone, Weaver, Renger, Richards, Simms, Schick, Foster, Osbourne, Beazley, and Agnew are juniors I recognize from either last year or the various discussions on this board. Are there any others?

Some other questions:

1. Who do you think will be the #2 QB? It seems that there are three good juniors from what I've read on here. KWillie2. Do you think we'll regularly play 5 or 6 WRs like we occasionally have in the past? Not sure If so, who do you think will be the first guys off the bench? Powell, Alexander, Moser A lot of receivers have been mentioned at various points as possible contributors (even one sophomore as I recall).

3. How's the backup RB? We've tended to be weak there in the past (although Avers was a pretty good #2 last year). Tough

4. Josh Rake is the starting WR you're referring to, right? You think Matt will be a backup I take it? Yep- Matt will help on the D

[SLC fan]

So I named all the juniors in your projected lineup, right? I wasn't sure about Meeks and Rodgers.

[green day]

So I named all the juniors in your projected lineup, right? I wasn't sure about Meeks and Rodgers.

KC Rodgers is junior

I think Minks a senior

Look for a kid named Hoagland (soph)to make a splash on special teams

[SLC fan]

I remember reading about Hoagland. He's supposed to be a real burner, right? It would be nice to have a dangerous return man again.

Who's the freshman WR people are raving about? Alexander? If he's one of the top 7 WRs as a freshman, he must be really good. Like McKay Jacobson good.

[drgnsbrth]

I remember reading about Hoagland. He's supposed to be a real burner, right? It would be nice to have a dangerous return man again.

Who's the freshman WR people are raving about? Alexander? If he's one of the top 7 WRs as a freshman, he must be really good. Like McKay Jacobson good.

No Alexander is a sophomore.

[green day]

Check that line-up...

Ryan Blair, over Brett Renger in the starter spot. Blair's a senior. Renger a junior who will see plenty of action

[TulsaHale74]

And if we don't get it done, I'm home shopping in Geronimo...
This one worked out pretty well (Carroll vs. Cedar Hill)

Movin' to Big Sandy if we don't bring it home...
This one - not so well (Carroll vs. Abilene)

:) You guys hang 45 on us, and I'll sell my house and move to China Grove...
Big Sandy to China Grove?:D:D
I wouldn't bother picking a mover or listening to the Doobie Brothers.;)

[SLC fan]

Check that line-up...

Ryan Blair, over Brett Renger in the starter spot. Blair's a senior. Renger a junior who will see plenty of action

So four seniors will start at WR. That surprises me because of the amount of praise the junior WRs have received.

[The Warrior]

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/Team Helmets/Helmets/SouthlakeCarroll.gif @ http://www.5atexasfootball.com/Team Helmets/Helmets/PlanoWest.gif

#5 SOUTHLAKE CARROLL (0-0)                            PLANO WEST (0-0)

Date and Time: August 30th, 2008 (4:30pm)
Where: Ford Stadium

Live PrepCast:
LINK COMING ON GAMEDAY


-You get play-by-play updates, instantly refreshed statistics, and live graphics that track the action.

Should be a good one!:notworthy

[The Warrior]

The defenses will be the story!:)

[DragonDad]

Think Dragons win, but didn't hear good things about the Grapevine scrimmage.

[green day]

This one worked out pretty well (Carroll vs. Cedar Hill)


This one - not so well (Carroll vs. Abilene)


Big Sandy to China Grove?:D:D
I wouldn't bother picking a mover or listening to the Doobie Brothers.;)


Good one, Tuls...I'm not painting walls just yet;)

[green day]

For those interested, the Hinsdale Central Red Devils lead Wheaton Warrenville(Ill) 21-7 @ half...

Sorry, my alma mater...

[drgnbkr]

Think Dragons win, but didn't hear good things about the Grapevine scrimmage.

What did you hear..? I was there and G-vine couldn't do a thing...Padron and Avers and John Nathan had their way with the Mustangs when I was watching. The D of Carroll wouldn't let the GV O do anything..

[Sakatha]

What did you hear..? I was there and G-vine couldn't do a thing...Padron and Avers and John Nathan had their way with the Mustangs when I was watching. The D of Carroll wouldn't let the GV O do anything..

I am wondering the same thing.. I walked away thinking 'Okay, the O isn't going to struggle as badly as I feared...'

~DnM

[slcdragonfan]

What did you hear..? I was there and G-vine couldn't do a thing...Padron and Avers and John Nathan had their way with the Mustangs when I was watching. The D of Carroll wouldn't let the GV O do anything..

ditto for me, I thought that our D pretty much took care of GV without even blitzing. We were pretty vanilla, but still drove. The only question marks to me were some missed passes deep which will right itself as they get into the season, and some dropped passes which also should right itself. Running game very productive as well.

[SLC13]

It's going to be a long year for GV.......Marcus is beating them 48-0 :eek:

[slcdragonfan]

yep, this is a VERY different district.

[drgnbkr]

It's going to be a long year for GV.......Marcus is beating them 48-0 :eek:

That is what we saw in the scrimmage...nothing from
Grapevine...:eek:

[ScottS]

It's going to be a long year for GV.......Marcus is beating them 48-0 :eek:

Wow. This district does seem tough. Coppell and Marcus destroying teams in week 0.

[ScottS]

Ok, past midnight, so its gameday. 15 hours until kick!!!!

[ScottS]

Gamewrite up
http://southlaketimes.com/articles/2008/08/30/sports/schools/carroll/94.txt

[protect-the-tradition]

Does anyone know which side of Ford stadiumn the Dragons will be on ?

Thank you

[drgnbkr]

Does anyone know which side of Ford stadiumn the Dragons will be on ?

Thank you

From all I've read and heard, the East side looking into that afternoon sun.

[protect-the-tradition]

Thank you very much

[ScottS]

5 hours until kick. Anyone have butterflies?

[drgnbkr]

5 hours until kick. Anyone have butterflies?

Maybe Plano West?:p

[DragonDad]

What did you hear..? I was there and G-vine couldn't do a thing...Padron and Avers and John Nathan had their way with the Mustangs when I was watching. The D of Carroll wouldn't let the GV O do anything..

What I heard wasn't good, so I'm glad to get another eye witness account. I was at my son's Youth Football scrimmage and couldn't make it.

[drgnbkr]

What I heard wasn't good, so I'm glad to get another eye witness account. I was at my son's Youth Football scrimmage and couldn't make it.

I guess it is just our high standards....Grapevine, in our scrimmage looked like a team that could go out and get owned the next week, which they did. Carroll looked like a solid team working in a whole lot of new faces. There was far more positive in the scrimmage than negative, but it all starts for real this afternoon.

[Plano West Wolf]

Maybe Plano West?:p

Our JV won, so the varsity team is fired up. No butterflies over on the Westside of Plano!

[drgnbkr]

Our JV won, so the varsity team is fired up. No butterflies over on the Westside of Plano!

Hope everyone enjoys the game and the fans and players get through it safely. Good luck Wolves! See ya there.

[Plano West Wolf]

Hope everyone enjoys the game and the fans and players get through it safely. Good luck Wolves! See ya there.

It should be fun.

What can you say about the parking at SMU? How long would it take to get there from Plano? I'm not really sure when to leave.

[TheBigPeach]

Our JV won, so the varsity team is fired up. No butterflies over on the Westside of Plano!

I heard JV lost by way of fumble on the 5 yard line:mad:


Good Luck to both teams

[eaglefootball11]

I heard JV lost by way of fumble on the 5 yard line:mad:


Good Luck to both teams


whats up with slc and losing games because of fumbles? ;)

[TheBigPeach]

whats up with slc and losing games because of fumbles? ;)

I wish I knew:mad:

lol

[dragons08]

Decided to go to this game! I'll be leaving shortly!

[jc84chill]

PrepCastLive link:

http://www.prepcastlive.com/game.aspx?Game=97

Looking forward to seeing what ya got SLC...

[CKE]

So how does this work do you have to refresh?

[jc84chill]

So how does this work do you have to refresh?

nope...it refreshes automatically for you.

You just pull up that page and let it ride.

[TheBigPeach]

So how does this work do you have to refresh?

you can listen live at

http://khvnam.com/

also

[TheBigPeach]

Decided to go to this game! I'll be leaving shortly!

http://smileydatabase.com/s/521.gif

[CKE]

nope...it refreshes automatically for you.

You just pull up that page and let it ride.

Thats pretty cool

[CKE]

you can listen live at

http://khvnam.com/

also

Thanks

[SLC93]

I think that this group for the Dragons comes out fierce and starving to put their stamp on this era.

Carroll - 35
Plano W - 0

As a side note I also predict the young Mr. Jeffcoat will not sniff KP. Between the performance of the line and all the energy he's gonna expend trying to corner the scatter bug that is Avers he'll be worn out.:D

Sooooooo close. Excellent start for this group. Much, much more to come methinks.:D

[Sakatha]

42 did a lot more than just sniff Kyle. Jackson Jeffcoat is a monster. His strength and athletisism is outstanding, and his pursuit is unrelenting. Kyle missed his share of open WR's, and every Dragon should be thanking Josh and Tommy this evening. Both had spectacular performances.

~DnM

[Plano West Wolf]

It was a good game. Jeffcoat is an absolute monster, he has improved greatly from his sophomore season. It's scary to think how good he'll be next year. I was impressed with our defense for the most part. Our offense and Carroll's punter put them in bad positions at time, but they did fine.

On our offense... I think somebody should ask Mike Hughes to give up his power over play calling. The two plays we ran the most (Cohen up the middle and a QB draw / option) were probably the two least effective. I did not like the fact that we alternated between Travis Wilson and Michael Pruneau at QB, although Pruneau impressed me more as a passer. Wilson is a better runner, however, as he broke off a nice run in the 4th quarter. This ruined the chemistry with the receivers, as there were several over and under thrown passes, along with a few passes with no receivers in the area. Dropped balls and penalties were also a problem.

To conclude. I liked what I saw out of the defense, especially Jeffcoat and Ameen Behbahani. Secondary was plagued by weak tackling. The offense needs a ton of work. Pick one QB, the WRs need to catch better, as they had very good opportunities slip away when they couldn't catch. Also, Hughes needs to let the OC do his job and call the plays. I'm getting kind of frustrated with our uncreative QB Draws and runs up the middle.

[drgnbkr]

It was a good game. Jeffcoat is an absolute monster, he has improved greatly from his sophomore season. It's scary to think how good he'll be next year. I was impressed with our defense for the most part. Our offense and Carroll's punter put them in bad positions at time, but they did fine.

On our offense... I think somebody should ask Mike Hughes to give up his power over play calling. The two plays we ran the most (Cohen up the middle and a QB draw / option) were probably the two least effective. I did not like the fact that we alternated between Travis Wilson and Michael Pruneau at QB, although Pruneau impressed me more as a passer. Wilson is a better runner, however, as he broke off a nice run in the 4th quarter. This ruined the chemistry with the receivers, as there were several over and under thrown passes, along with a few passes with no receivers in the area. Dropped balls and penalties were also a problem.

To conclude. I liked what I saw out of the defense, especially Jeffcoat and Ameen Behbahani. Secondary was plagued by weak tackling. The offense needs a ton of work. Pick one QB, the WRs need to catch better, as they had very good opportunities slip away when they couldn't catch. Also, Hughes needs to let the OC do his job and call the plays. I'm getting kind of frustrated with our uncreative QB Draws and runs up the middle.

Good luck West...Good defensive effort! Jeffcoat was very good against the run, and got good pressure on Padron at times. Give the offense time to work it out & don't forget that defense is Carroll's strength at this time..you ran into a very good defense that will make a lot of offenses look shaky.

[toonman]

It was a good game. Jeffcoat is an absolute monster, he has improved greatly from his sophomore season. It's scary to think how good he'll be next year. I was impressed with our defense for the most part. Our offense and Carroll's punter put them in bad positions at time, but they did fine.

On our offense... I think somebody should ask Mike Hughes to give up his power over play calling. The two plays we ran the most (Cohen up the middle and a QB draw / option) were probably the two least effective. I did not like the fact that we alternated between Travis Wilson and Michael Pruneau at QB, although Pruneau impressed me more as a passer. Wilson is a better runner, however, as he broke off a nice run in the 4th quarter. This ruined the chemistry with the receivers, as there were several over and under thrown passes, along with a few passes with no receivers in the area. Dropped balls and penalties were also a problem.

To conclude. I liked what I saw out of the defense, especially Jeffcoat and Ameen Behbahani. Secondary was plagued by weak tackling. The offense needs a ton of work. Pick one QB, the WRs need to catch better, as they had very good opportunities slip away when they couldn't catch. Also, Hughes needs to let the OC do his job and call the plays. I'm getting kind of frustrated with our uncreative QB Draws and runs up the middle.


It may have been a good game by Plano West standards, but today was not a good performance by Southlake Carroll standards. Apart from the scoreline, that was a very untypical Southlake Carroll performance. Plano West will struggle this year, as will Southlake Carroll, unless Southlake Carroll can find some receivers who can actually hold onto the ball.

[Plano West Wolf]

It may have been a good game by Plano West standards, but today was not a good performance by Southlake Carroll standards. Apart from the scoreline, that was a very untypical Southlake Carroll performance. Plano West will struggle this year, as will Southlake Carroll, unless Southlake Carroll can find some receivers who can actually hold onto the ball.

I never said Plano West played a good game. You need to read my post more thoroughly.

[DrEdward]

It may have been a good game by Plano West standards, but today was not a good performance by Southlake Carroll standards. Apart from the scoreline, that was a very untypical Southlake Carroll performance. Plano West will struggle this year, as will Southlake Carroll, unless Southlake Carroll can find some receivers who can actually hold onto the ball.

I'll repeat here what i stated onthe other thread tonight:

It is too early to tell how solid the Dragons will be this season. It has been quite a while since I recall Carroll playing a really strong opening game. It has almost become a tradition to have a slow start for the Dragons. Given the heat on the surface, today's performance was no exception. No criticism of either team intended here; just difficult to judge too much from an opening game played under very hot conditions.

I can also add that the line play looked solid for a first game on both sides of the ball; the linebackers played well and Carroll receivers do need to work on developing stickier hands. We have seen this before this afternoon, so it is no real secret. But I am also confident the Dragons will improve.

[green day]

Final score and other events still a little fuzzy, but I will suggest the defense for SL will control the outcome. I would be surprised if Plano can get more than a couple scores. You have to see the Burnett/Richards tag team to understand why I feel that way. And if you maneuver around that, those LB's are very active.

The baseball team scored 10 against us last June. I think they'll do the same.

I think this was spot on, thank you very much

[toonman]

I'll repeat here what i stated onthe other thread tonight:

It is too early to tell how solid the Dragons will be this season. It has been quite a while since I recall Carroll playing a really strong opening game. It has almost become a tradition to have a slow start for the Dragons. Given the heat on the surface, today's performance was no exception. No criticism of either team intended here; just difficult to judge too much from an opening game played under very hot conditions.

I can also add that the line play looked solid for a first game on both sides of the ball; the linebackers played well and Carroll receivers do need to work on developing stickier hands. We have seen this before this afternoon, so it is no real secret. But I am also confident the Dragons will improve.

I hope you are right.

[drgnbkr]

I think this was spot on, thank you very much

Jeffcoat has gotten a lot of well deserved love post game, but Burnett and Richards were in the West backfield all day....

[TulsaHale74]

I think this was spot on, thank you very much
No moving to China Grove.!:)

[TheBigPeach]

No moving to China Grove.!:)

Lol, I was thinking the same thing

[toonman]

Burnett and Richards were in the West backfield all day....

Agreed - A real positive in the Dragon's performance today.

[ScottS]

Where is China Grove?

[bigdaddydog]

Where is China Grove?

"...a sleepy little town
Down around san antone" :Music


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[dragonsdaddy]

Where is China Grove?

just east of sa

[green day]

just east of sa

You can even hear the music at night....

[drgnbkr]

You can even hear the music at night....

Tho it's a part of the Lone Star State...People don't seem to care....

[bigdaddydog]

Tho it's a part of the Lone Star State...People don't seem to care....

They just keep on lookin to the east. Talkin bout the china grove


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[DrEdward]

They just keep on lookin to the east. Talkin bout the china grove


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Wait; I thought East lost this weekend. Why are they still lookin' there? :rolleyes:

[bigdaddydog]

Wait; I thought East lost this weekend. Why are they still lookin' there? :rolleyes:

Indeed, East lost. I don't know why they would look there. ;)

The people of the town are strange.


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