FB Marshall....Greatest Show On Turf!

[SuperBuffs]

*************CONGRATULATIONS*******************
********FORT BEND THURGOOD MARSHALL***************
************BUFFALO SOLDIERS**********************
**********DISTRICT 20-5A CHAMPIONS***************

I have follwed this team all season and truly believe something special is happenning over on Buffalo Run in MO City, Texas. This team is capable of striking from anywhere at anytime. The pass, the run and the special teams have put it together at the right time.

That spanking of the best defense in 20-5A was awesome.....it was a complete team effort....even the 2nd team looked menacing.

[ktchamp97]

*************CONGRATULATIONS*******************
********FORT BEND THURGOOD MARSHALL***************
************BUFFALO SOLDIERS**********************
**********DISTRICT 20-5A CHAMPIONS***************

I have follwed this team all season and truly believe something special is happenning over on Buffalo Run in MO City, Texas. This team is capable of striking from anywhere at anytime. The pass, the run and the special teams have put it together at the right time.

That spanking of the best defense in 20-5A was awesome.....it was a complete team effort....even the 2nd team looked menacing.

Congrats!

When we saw Marshall at the UH combine in 2003, they looked very impressive. When we saw them at the 2004 7 on 7, they were the most physically imposing team out there...and it wasn't even close. I was glad to see their athletic talent translate to on-field success this year and I expect them to be a solid program from here on out...as long as FBISD stops opening schools and re-zoning.

[SuperBuffs]

Looking forward to Friday's contest against the Strake Jesuit Crusaders, Strake's Tyree will have his hands full.....Wide Receiver and Defensive Back?....he is gonna be one busy player.

Marshall's Cavness should have a good rushing performance as the Buffs Offensive Line will dominate a smaller Strake.....

Crusaders' McVaney will be the Buffs' target of interested, he has the ability to run and catch, so Strake keeps him in the offense.....

Fort Bend Thurgood Marshall got the Houston Chronicle's "Key Play of the Game" with James J.T. Thomas.....a very nice young man with Vince Young like skills.

If you get an opportunity to attend Friday's game at Crump, The Stampede Marching Band with it's Mystique Dancers and F.Y.A. Drumline is awesome.....you gotta see this!

*************CONGRATULATIONS*******************
********FORT BEND THURGOOD MARSHALL***************
************BUFFALO SOLDIERS**********************
**********DISTRICT 20-5A CHAMPIONS***************

[Fleeman93]

Although I have not seen Marshall play this year, I would still have to give the "greatest show on turf" distinction to SLC.

[Oiler1]

Looking forward to Friday's contest against the Strake Jesuit Crusaders, Strake's Tyree will have his hands full.....Wide Receiver and Defensive Back?....he is gonna be one busy player.

Marshall's Cavness should have a good rushing performance as the Buffs Offensive Line will dominate a smaller Strake.....

Crusaders' McVaney will be the Buffs' target of interested, he has the ability to run and catch, so Strake keeps him in the offense.....

Fort Bend Thurgood Marshall got the Houston Chronicle's "Key Play of the Game" with James J.T. Thomas.....a very nice young man with Vince Young like skills.

If you get an opportunity to attend Friday's game at Crump, The Stampede Marching Band with it's Mystique Dancers and F.Y.A. Drumline is awesome.....you gotta see this!

*************CONGRATULATIONS*******************
********FORT BEND THURGOOD MARSHALL***************
************BUFFALO SOLDIERS**********************
**********DISTRICT 20-5A CHAMPIONS***************


Marshall has some talent and speed but I wasn't impressed with their victory over Clear Brook. They will have to keep their mistakes down in order to win in the playoffs.

On another note, the band and drumline were awesome. Lots of energy throughout the entire game.

[SuperBuffs]

Marshall has some talent and speed but I wasn't impressed with their victory over Clear Brook. They will have to keep their mistakes down in order to win in the playoffs.

On another note, the band and drumline were awesome. Lots of energy throughout the entire game.

I was at the Clear Brook game, the yellow flags were flying all night it seems to me. I remember at least 2 near the end of the game that were questionable. You have to admire the way they did not panic and manage to wrestle that lead from Clear Brook in the 4th qtr.

That was early in the season, I have not seen the mistakes like those in the Clear Brook game.....but they are so fast that coach has to remind them to rely on more than speed. Clear Brook and Hightower were close games fill with penalties.

[SuperBuffs]

On another note, the band and drumline were awesome. Lots of energy throughout the entire game.

That FB Marshall Stampede Marching Band is the only band I could find that has been penalized this season for disrupting the game.....They received a warning at Clear Brook. During the Bush game the football team received a 5 yards penalty, and Clements, the band also cause the team to get penalized.

I read about one of the penalties in the Houston Chronicle, they really get pumped for the game.

[SuperBuffs]

Although I have not seen Marshall play this year, I would still have to give the "greatest show on turf" distinction to SLC.

I'm not familiar with SLC's band, but I know about the football team......but if they are bring "DA FUNK" and "DA NOISE".....I sure hope to get to see them.

[eagleike]

SuperBuff:

Congratulations on a fine season, now it's time to shut your mouth before the playoffs start.

Marshall will get a taste of the playoffs against Memorial in 2 weeks and they might not like that taste.

[Fleeman93]

I agree that Memorial will be the best team that Marshall will face this season.

[Oiler1]

I agree that Memorial will be the best team that Marshall will face this season.

Funny how so many were shooting Memorial down after the preseason start. They have stepped up once more and proven me right. Yes, Pearland beat them but they are very good team.

[Fleeman93]

I never shot Memorial down. They played a very tough pre district schedule to say the least. If you search back to early in the season you will see that I said that I thought Katy would play Memorial in the R3 final.

[Oiler1]

I never shot Memorial down. They played a very tough pre district schedule to say the least. If you search back to early in the season you will see that I said that I thought Katy would play Memorial in the R3 final.

Not calling you out Fleeman93....you were on record from the beginning stating Memorial was better than the record and would repeat. Some others on the board were not.

[BigArab]

Although I have not seen Marshall play this year, I would still have to give the "greatest show on turf" distinction to SLC.

Either that or NS.

[SuperBuffs]

SuperBuff:

Congratulations on a fine season, now it's time to shut your mouth before the playoffs start.

Marshall will get a taste of the playoffs against Memorial in 2 weeks and they might not like that taste.

memorial....memorial....let's see
You mean the team that lost to Hightower's 2nd string? 22-21, that memorial?

You mean the team with such a balance offense that they ran for only 300 YARDS ALL SEASON? that memorial?

I won't verbally spare with you until the time comes.....so if you really need to hype memorial.....go tell someone who cares....and oh yeah, nice weight room at memorial, just like the pros.

[HUM398]

Memorial is not making it to Round 3...And Neither is FB marshall... Ball or Humble will Play Katy in the Reg 3 Finals

[SuperBuffs]

You mean the team with such a balance offense that they ran for only 300 YARDS ALL SEASON? that memorial?





Oops! pass for 300 yard all season, WHO KNEW?

[SuperBuffs]

Memorial is not making it to Round 3...And Neither is FB marshall... Ball or Humble will Play Katy in the Reg 3 Finals

Just post with some substance please, Katy is no longer relevant here....this is about Fort Bend Thurgood Marshall. The proper way to state your opinion:

Ball or Humble, is better than FB Marshall because........make your point.

See, it's easy.....give it a try.

[HUM398]

Ball or humble, Much better then FB marshall.....

Hows that?

[catman]

Congrats to Marshall on a good season. I only saw one of your games, Clements, but was impressed with what I saw. Of the 5 teams that I did see of the D2R3 playoff members I would rank them thusly---
1. Katy
2. Marshall
3. La Porte
4. Clements
5. Cy Falls
I wish the Buffaloes good luck. They have a chance to play several weeks if they keep their game together.

[SuperBuffs]

Congrats to Marshall on a good season. I only saw one of your games, Clements, but was impressed with what I saw. Of the 5 teams that I did see of the D2R3 playoff members I would rank them thusly---
1. Katy
2. Marshall
3. La Porte
4. Clements
5. Cy Falls
I wish the Buffaloes good luck. They have a chance to play several weeks if they keep their game together.

I like your La Porte pick at #3, they have a well-oiled offense....good run and pass attack. I saw them take a beating from North Shore....but they can surprise you.

Any team with a quarterback named BOOGIE, got to be able to play ball.

[StrakeJesuit07]

is it true or not that ineligibility starts friday? just wondering, this could have some effect on our game...

[SuperBuffs]

is it true or not that ineligibility starts friday? just wondering, this could have some effect on our game...

You figure Strake is going to lose someone due to grades or something?, maybe you want to elaborate.

[ktCarl]

is it true or not that ineligibility starts friday? just wondering, this could have some effect on our game...

Strake players have some grade problems?
I don't believe it.

[SmilinTiger]

Ball or humble, Much better then FB marshall.....

Hows that?


FB Marshall is this years Westside. They won't go far.

[StrakeJesuit07]

no i checked the ineligibility list, we wont be missing anyone. i was wondering if the ineligibility period for all schools starts friday

[catman]

I like your La Porte pick at #3, they have a well-oiled offense....good run and pass attack. I saw them take a beating from North Shore....but they can surprise you.

Any team with a quarterback named BOOGIE, got to be able to play ball.

I sat by and talked to Boogie's dad at the North Shore-Dobie game. I got to see La Porte against Pasadena Memorial and Dobie. They have some very good offensive players with quick-strike capabilities.

[SuperBuffs]

I sat by and talked to Boogie's dad at the North Shore-Dobie game. I got to see La Porte against Pasadena Memorial and Dobie. They have some very good offensive players with quick-strike capabilities.

You are right about that, I wish I could have caught more games....Boogie did throw a 40 yarder on North Shore, but most of the night, he was running for his life.

[StrakeJesuit07]

all this talk about the band... damn i wish we had a band. katy fans know what im talking about :rolleyes:

[rwilleby]

all this talk about the band... damn i wish we had a band. katy fans know what im talking about :rolleyes:
Yep, It would come in mighty handy on Friday night...

I have a feeling the halftime performance might just be the best part of the night... No offense to the teams, but if we're talking another "willowridge" type performance, that's a lot of fun baby...

[SuperBuffs]

FB Marshall is this years Westside. They won't go far.

Either your logic or your research is flawed....these are MO City kids who live and play in MO City, their parents attended Madison or Willowridge......So the Westside analogy is inaccurate.

Westside has never had a team with this much speed, but I have not seen many schools with players on both sides on the ball who can move so fast.

Can't say much about Westside except this year they lost to Nimitz, Conroe, Madison and Lamar...The Buffalo Soldiers can beat those teams....even the Marlins....my alma mater. This is a solid program.....they are not a flash in the pan.

[HUM398]

Either your logic or your research is flawed....these are MO City kids who live and play in MO City, their parents attended Madison or Willowridge......So the Westside analogy is inaccurate.

Westside has never had a team with this much speed, but I have not seen many schools with players on both sides on the ball who can move so fast.

Can't say much about Westside except this year they lost to Nimitz, Conroe, Madison and Lamar...The Buffalo Soldiers can beat those teams....even the Marlins....my alma mater. This is a solid program.....they are not a flash in the pan.

Im sorry, but FB marshall can't beat half those teams. Lamar has far more talent, and quite a bit of speed. Oh, and he said last years Westside. This year westside has been a major dissapointment.

[SuperBuffs]

Im sorry, but FB marshall can't beat half those teams. Lamar has far more talent, and quite a bit of speed. Oh, and he said last years Westside. This year westside has been a major dissapointment.

FB Marshall has over 4000 yards of total offense for season, avg, is about 450 per game(excluding Willowridge due to Rita).....a running game and passing attack second to none....

.....the Buffs' QB James Thomas has more yards than Lamar's star back Eric Eiland....

Lamar averages about what 275 yards of offense a game?.....so where does all this Lamar Redskin talent is going to come from?

I see you have not been paying much attention, but that's ok.....no one has been looking at Marshall.

[SmilinTiger]

but that's ok.....no one has been looking at Marshall.[/QUOTE]

Wonder why. Last year everyone was oohing and aahing about Westfield's talent and speed. Then....poof... they were gone.

This is the play-offs. Grab your britches and hang on if you can.

[HUM398]

FB marshall has played no one...almost all the teams on there sched. are horrible teams.. 2 maybe are worth somthing.

FB Marshal will dissapear quickly.

[SuperBuffs]

FB marshall has played no one...almost all the teams on there sched. are horrible teams.. 2 maybe are worth somthing.

FB Marshal will dissapear quickly.

As compared to what district? I mean it's all relative....no district has all great teams 19-5A, 21-5A?.....there's no power district.

But you can search every district leader, from Katy to Westfield.....from North Shore to Lamar/Madison.....no matter how many bad teams are in their districts...

IT IS NOT EASY TO ACCUMULATE 4000 YARDS OF TOTAL OFFENSE IN 9 GAMES...IN ANY DISTRICT!

[HUM398]

What im saying is that they have not been tested. Do you think that FB Marshall could score more then 7 points against westfield or NS. I dont think so. How marshall did this season is Great. i am not trying to take anything away from them. They really did a great job, But they are overrated. there are so many more teams that are faster in REG 3. To think that FB is even slightly comparable to schools like Westfield, North shore, katy, and Lufkin(not in order) is illogical. They dont have a chance in the playoffs. they will get knocked out by either Ball or Humble. They wont lose by much. But i dont see them getting past Round 3.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I met and spoke with this kid Ruffins, he is a real talent, and very humble. He shows up at most Ft Bend games when Marshall isn't playing. His grades are good and so is his additude. Perfect role model for highschool football.

I hope the Kempner game was not his typical outing. Marshall will not go far if they don't execute. Maybe in 205a but not in the playoffs.

[griggie1969]

I would like to see Katy vs FB Marshall in the region 3 final.

[SuperBuffs]

I met and spoke with this kid Ruffins, he is a real talent, and very humble. He shows up at most Ft Bend games when Marshall isn't playing. His grades are good and so is his additude. Perfect role model for highschool football.

I hope the Kempner game was not his typical outing. Marshall will not go far if they don't execute. Maybe in 205a but not in the playoffs.


I know AJ's parents and it does not surprise me that you say those things about him.....they are friendly people.

I tell ya, Ruff should have caught 3 touchdown passes against Kempner. He was so depressed about dropping those balls, but Kempner was HITTING Saturday night. Both sides were headhunting....I smelled bad blood....

I would expect him to go back to Human Flytrap mode on Friday, he has some skills....he can catch.

[SuperBuffs]

I would like to see Katy vs FB Marshall in the region 3 final.

You are not the only one.....I wanted that element of surprise the Buffalo Soldiers would have in their favor.

The fact that they have to play a few games before they met gives Katy's experience the edge....the Tigers have been to the rodeo a few times.

Let's see if the Buffalo Soldiers can hold up their end against the Crusaders.....

[HUM398]

FB marshall will take Strake to the woodshed. 50-14 :cool:

[AZTiger]

after 2 rounds of the playoffs, i think the surprise factor will be a non issue. like you said, this isnt katy's first rodeo

[Fleeman93]

First of all Humble or Ball won't get a chance to play Marshall. Marshall will not get past Memorial. As I have said before Memorial is the second best team in R3 D2.

[SuperBuffs]

First of all Humble or Ball won't get a chance to play Marshall. Marshall will not get past Memorial. As I have said before Memorial is the second best team in R3 D2.

What makes Memorial the 2nd best in R3 D2?.....you can elaborate on this, maybe I fail to see something about the Mustangs....

They lost to Hightower: a decent defense with no real offense to speak of....

They lost to Pearland: no pass offense whatso ever, good rushing team

They lost to Westfield: no need to elaborate.....

Memorial beat MacArthur is an ugly turnover fest and the Mustangs barely beat Nimitz late in the season, when you are suppose to be clicking.....

SO WHAT AM I MISSING ABOUT MEMORIAL?

[KT2000]

They play disciplined football and will not beat themselves. Marshall has been known to rack up the penalty yardage, and that could hurt them this week against Strake. Strake has a similar reputation to Memorial in that they are well-coached and don't usually shoot themselves in the foot.

I don't know if Marshall can just show up and expect to big play either team off of the field. Marshall beat Hightower by three points, so only six points separated the Buffs from Memorial through that particular common opponent.

I know you are completely convinced Marshall is unbeatable, but you are setting yourself up for an economy-sized crow sandwich if you don't think they have weaknesses that could be exposed by Strake or Memorial. Strake is going to have a huge advantage in the kicking game/penalty dept and those kind of things can make a big difference in the playoffs.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Strake is going to have a huge advantage in the kicking game/penalty dept and those kind of things can make a big difference in the playoffs.

And Strake has never had the luxury of the 12th man. They also get that against Marshall.

[Fleeman93]

memorial....memorial....let's see
You mean the team that lost to Hightower's 2nd string? 22-21, that memorial?

You mean the team with such a balance offense that they ran for only 300 YARDS ALL SEASON? that memorial?

I won't verbally spare with you until the time comes.....so if you really need to hype memorial.....go tell someone who cares....and oh yeah, nice weight room at memorial, just like the pros.

Marshall's Opponents win % - 44%
Memorial's Opponents win % - 52%

I have no idea about the Hightowner game, but then again Marshall only beat them by 3 points.

[Fleeman93]

What makes Memorial the 2nd best in R3 D2?.....you can elaborate on this, maybe I fail to see something about the Mustangs....

They lost to Hightower: a decent defense with no real offense to speak of....

Only common opponent which Marshall won by 3 and Memorial lost by 1. As I said before, I have no idea how this game went, but it was the first game of the year for Memorial. Memorial to me is Katy light. Really don't have great athletes, but that is made up for by coaching and discipline. Memorial is one of the teams that gets better and better as the year goes on because of that coaching and discipline.

They lost to Pearland: no pass offense whatso ever, good rushing team

Although I am not all that impressed with Pearland, they are one of the top teams in Houston. I would say they are the top of the second tier with Northshore, Westfield, and Katy as the top tier.

They lost to Westfield: no need to elaborate.....

...and I quote "no need to elaborate."

Memorial beat MacArthur is an ugly turnover fest and the Mustangs barely beat Nimitz late in the season, when you are suppose to be clicking.....

I have no clue about these games to tell you the truth. I would guess they were playing down to their competition which is very uncharacteristic of them.

SO WHAT AM I MISSING ABOUT MEMORIAL?

I don't think you are missing anything about Memorial that most aren't. This site doesn't even have them ranked in the area top 10. Memorial took all of their loses early on and have only gotten better. They play smash mouth disciplined football (see Katy). I just think they are much better than people give them credit for.

[SuperBuffs]

They play disciplined football and will not beat themselves.
I would think that an undefeated team would be well-disciplined and not beat themselves....that's moot.


I don't know if Marshall can just show up and expect to big play either team off of the field. Marshall beat Hightower by three points, so only six points separated the Buffs from Memorial through that particular common opponent. I don't think any team can show up and just win....that's moot...Hightower is an area RIVAL of FB Marshall's, expect them to play harder.....what's Memorial's excuse?


I know you are completely convinced Marshall is unbeatable, but you are setting yourself up for an economy-sized crow sandwich
That's what being a FAN is all about, someone eats crow every week...moot again


if you don't think they have weaknesses that could be exposed by Strake or Memorial. Strake is going to have a huge advantage in the kicking game/penalty dept and those kind of things can make a big difference in the playoffs. Now you have a good point, every team have weaknesses and FB Marshall's kicking game and hard-nosed penalties can hurt them.

[jgg050759]

Hey Buffy, you guys go ahead and get ready to play Memorial. That way, Jesuit can use your scouting report and save some time next week after you overlook them. Sheeeeeeeesh

[SuperBuffs]

They play smash mouth disciplined football (see Katy). I just think they are much better than people give them credit for.

I see "DISCIPLINED FOOTBALL" again....is that the new buzz word or something? Look. if you can cut your summer vacation early for 2 a days in the hot Texas sun.....YOU ARE DISCIPLINED...

If you can keep up your grades and handle you chores at home, while knocking head at football practice and go UNDEFEATED......YOU ARE DISCIPLINED.....

Neither Katy nor any other school can stake a claim to disciplined football, a style of play can result in numerous penalties or a wide open offense can give the perception of lack thereof....

but it is really only a difference in the way one team plays football versus another

[KT2000]

Buffs,

I think being a fan is about letting your team do the talking on the field through their play (not over the top boasting) and encouraging them while they do so (and also when they don't of course).

To me, if you have to talk them up like this then maybe you aren't quite as confident as you lead us to believe. True confidence recognizes both strength and weakness in my opinion.

Just my two cents on that.

[AZTiger]

Oh my good Lord, just that fact that you're trying to dismiss "disciplined football" is ignorant.

Lavar Arrington is THE most talented LB in the NFL? Why doesn't he play? He's NOT DISCIPLINED. He runs himself out of plays, doesn't do his responsibilites.

Here is what disciplined football is, since you're convinced it doesn't exist:
1.) Performing your assignments
2.) Playing within the rules
3.) Not letting your emotions override your common sense (personal fouls)

Look I could go on, but you can be very undisciplined but still have talent and go undefeated, but when it's time to step up in the playoffs, and you meet teams with similar talent and they DON'T play as individuals and DON'T committ stupid penalties...you'll find yourself down in a heart beat. For you to call Marshall's penalty problems "hard nosed" is an excuse. The Raiders lead the NFL in penalties every year, where does that "hard nose" get them? Usually, not to the playoffs.

[Fleeman93]

I see "DISCIPLINED FOOTBALL" again....is that the new buzz word or something? Look. if you can cut your summer vacation early for 2 a days in the hot Texas sun.....YOU ARE DISCIPLINED...

Nothing new at all about "DISCIPLINED FOOTBALL." You hear it all the time at all levels.

Neither Katy nor any other school can stake a claim to disciplined football, a style of play can result in numerous penalties or a wide open offense can give the perception of lack thereof....

You are out of your mind if you don't think Katy football is disciplined football. When I think of disciplined teams three come to mind right away and they are Smithson Valley, Houston Memorial and Katy. Watch any of these teams play a couple of games and you will know what I mean about disciplined football.

but it is really only a difference in the way one team plays football versus another

Just don't think you understand where I am coming from. Memorial will be Marshall's toughest game this year and their discipline will be a big part of that.

[SuperBuffs]

Buffs,

I think being a fan is about letting your team do the talking on the field through their play (not over the top boasting) and encouraging them while they do so (and also when they don't of course).

To me, if you have to talk them up like this then maybe you aren't quite as confident as you lead us to believe. True confidence recognizes both strength and weakness in my opinion.

Just my two cents on that.

What are you talking about?...THIS IS A MESSAGE BOARD.....this is were you come to discuss and pump up your favorite team.....everyone does not like to talk H.S. Football.....It's like someone showing you baby pictures all the time.

But I try to interject stats and substance about why I believe this team is special, cause we all think our team is special.

[SuperBuffs]

Just don't think you understand where I am coming from. Memorial will be Marshall's toughest game this year and their discipline will be a big part of that.

HUH, I don't get it........so tell me this.... :confused:

Give me an example of the disciplined football you have witnessed this season from your team....help me to understand.

[eagleike]

Take it from someone who has seen some real talent on the field lose games that they should have won:

Marshall has talent but that won't win you a playoff game. Neither will boasting and chest beating about how great you play the game.

Memorial's defense can and probably will shut down the Marshall offense to a point. Memorial's offense will grind out yardage and use the clock. That will also slow down the Buffs.

Can Marshall win this week and the next? Of course, but talk won't get it done.

[AZTiger]

you'll never understand because you played in HISD. while you did play for the best coach in HISD, Coach Seals, the sloppy individualistic and penalty ridden style of play in those districts is an example of "undisciplined"

[AZTiger]

Take it from someone who has seen some real talent on the field lose games that they should have won:

Marshall has talent but that won't win you a playoff game. Neither will boasting and chest beating about how great you play the game.

Memorial's defense can and probably will shut down the Marshall offense to a point. Memorial's offense will grind out yardage and use the clock. That will also slow down the Buffs.

Can Marshall win this week and the next? Of course, but talk won't get it done.

you should know, losing to Judson as many times as you did and then us in 1997. Ike was ALWAYS superior in talent department.

[SuperBuffs]

Oh my good Lord, just that fact that you're trying to dismiss "disciplined football" is ignorant.

Lavar Arrington is THE most talented LB in the NFL? Why doesn't he play? He's NOT DISCIPLINED. He runs himself out of plays, doesn't do his responsibilites.

Here is what disciplined football is, since you're convinced it doesn't exist:
1.) Performing your assignments
2.) Playing within the rules
3.) Not letting your emotions override your common sense (personal fouls)

Look I could go on, but you can be very undisciplined but still have talent and go undefeated, but when it's time to step up in the playoffs, and you meet teams with similar talent and they DON'T play as individuals and DON'T committ stupid penalties...you'll find yourself down in a heart beat. For you to call Marshall's penalty problems "hard nosed" is an excuse. The Raiders lead the NFL in penalties every year, where does that "hard nose" get them? Usually, not to the playoffs.


You write as if no team is guilty of these infractions.....comparing men who get paid to play to high school kids? WOW, I figure I get your point but Lavar Arrington to an 18 year old who only wants to figure out where the party will take place after the game.....ok, if you say so.....

[Ramz]

HUH, I don't get it........so tell me this.... :confused:

Give me an example of the disciplined football you have witnessed this season from your team....help me to understand.

I guess he does not realize that Fleeman is a Katy fan....


on a lighter note:

SuperBuffs
(16.92 posts per day)

[AZTiger]

well if that's all Marshall players care about, then i hope they enjoyed their regular season. that comment right there proves to me that you never knew what it took to make it to the big game and win it. at katy when we were on the field, all we cared about was the next play. once the clock hit zeroes at the end of the fourth...then we figured out where to go celebrate our victory

[KTHoC]

Buffs, how much time did your 1st team play in the second halves of their games? My guess would be at least thru the 3rd qtr. Please fill us in on this.

[Fleeman93]

To me you really see disciplined football on the defensive side of the ball (on offense we more or less call it execution, but it is the same thing). By disciplined on defense I mean that each individule executes his assignment by the book. For example a team may run a trap play over and over and over again and my assignment may be contain on the outside. If I get caught up cheating in to help with the trap then eventually I will get burned to the outside. I just have to have confidence that my teammates will execute their assignments. The whole reason play action passes work is because at some point the defense loses it's discipline.

[SuperBuffs]

Marshall's Opponents win % - 44%
Memorial's Opponents win % - 52%

I have no idea about the Hightowner game, but then again Marshall only beat them by 3 points.

The Hightower game was pretty much like a "I HATE YOUR GUTS" game, come to think of it, it was similar to the Kempner game. The only reason I can think of is the NEW KID ON THE BLOCK SYNDROME....

Last season, these schools were beating FB Marshall's first varsity debut, so they probably figured the Marshall game would be easy this year. But FB Marshall came out slapping people around and puching them in the mouth.

Memorial vs Hightower was nothing like Marshall vs Hightower.....

[KT2000]

Buffs, I respect the fact you support your team. The student-athletes need that.

However, I honestly think you leaped over the confidence-downright cocky boundary with some of the comments you've made. That's just me being straight up with you.

I've got no problem with the stats and all of that. Impressive offensively and the defense looks to be improving at the right time.

I'd let the team try and win a couple of playoff games first before asking people to "bow down".

Just an example based on the posters responding in this thread...Katy has 47 playoff wins as a Class 5A school and three state championships yet you don't see Tiger fans starting threads titled REGION 3 LANDLORDS or KATY- TEXAS HS FOOTBALL IMMORTALITY.

Boasting just doesn't earn a ton of respect points.

[AZTiger]

puching them in the mouth.....

well, that explains all the penalties ;)

[SuperBuffs]

To me you really see disciplined football on the defensive side of the ball (on offense we more or less call it execution, but it is the same thing). By disciplined on defense I mean that each individule executes his assignment by the book. For example a team may run a trap play over and over and over again and my assignment may be contain on the outside. If I get caught up cheating in to help with the trap then eventually I will get burned to the outside. I just have to have confidence that my teammates will execute their assignments. The whole reason play action passes work is because at some point the defense loses it's discipline.


Oh yeah, I definitely agree with that....a good solid offense can run the same play over and over....you know it is coming but it is hard to stop...Pearland is like that.....Defense has to play with some fire and emotion, so you don't want to be too hard on them....you take that away.

[SuperBuffs]

Buffs, I respect the fact you support your team. The student-athletes need that.

Boasting just doesn't earn a ton of respect points.

Supporting my team: GOOD
Telling you my team is good: BAD
Understanding your post: PRICELESS

Last year has nothing to do with this year, except, to those who support their respective teams.....

Does anyone want to share which of there players can do what at their position, or why one team is better than another.... or do I have to read about how my posts are irritating?

[SuperBuffs]

REGION 3 LANDLORDS or KATY- TEXAS HS FOOTBALL IMMORTALITY.

Boasting just doesn't earn a ton of respect points.

"Greatest Show On Turf" is a phrase used by either Grambling or Southern University....as for Fort Bend Thurgood Marshall, it is about a new school with a new band and football team doing well.......come to a game and see the show.

It has nothing to do with boosting or saying some other school is crap.....

Look, this is silly.....wanna talk football, I'm down for that...

[KT2000]

I don't seem to be alone in my opinion.

Scooter was like this when he first started posting :) . PA Titans domination this, PA that. Colbert is almighty. Jamaal Charles is the second coming. Danny Gorrer is a bigger Deion. No wait, Colbert stinks. etc Turned into a dang good poster if I may say so myself.

[Tigerjag]

comparing men who get paid to play to high school kids?

It wasn't a comparison. It was an example.

/end English lesson

[rwilleby]

Supporting my team: GOOD
Telling you my team is good: BAD
Understanding your post: PRICELESS

Last year has nothing to do with this year, except, to those who support their respective teams.....

Does anyone want to share which of there players can do what at their position, or why one team is better than another.... or do I have to read about how my posts are irritating?
I vote on the latter... :)

[AZTiger]

yes i do like to talk football, so don't start anymore threads with a title refering to a band :)

[SuperBuffs]

Buffs, how much time did your 1st team play in the second halves of their games? My guess would be at least thru the 3rd qtr. Please fill us in on this.

The Buffalo Soldiers starters played half way or so thru the 3rd quarter, Cavness' brother took over the running duties. The Buffs' Lafayette went in at QB.....dood is really quick....he looked good.....

I didn't see many starters on defense in the second half, but they were still hitting each other....I only saw one fight break out.

[AZTiger]

and just to note, i think i'm actually MORE excited to see Marshall's band then the actual game. If they are better than Willowridge's (which I doubt, but ya never know), I will be pleased.

[ktrain]

Is that how you determine if they are playing well, if a fight breaks out?

[AZTiger]

yeah man because they're playing with lots of "emotion" :rolleyes:

[KT2000]

It's just the style of play that results in the fights. ;)

[ktrain]

yeah man because they're playing with lots of "emotion" :rolleyes:

Recipe for disaster

[SuperBuffs]

well if that's all Marshall players care about, then i hope they enjoyed their regular season. that comment right there proves to me that you never knew what it took to make it to the big game and win it. at katy when we were on the field, all we cared about was the next play. once the clock hit zeroes at the end of the fourth...then we figured out where to go celebrate our victory

You have no idea how badly I racked up yardage on Katy during my playing days at Madison.....this is a message board so my life is not relevant, but you don't know of what you speak.

[AZTiger]

2005 FB Marshall = 1994 Beaumont Westbrook

well, i bet they aren't THAT fast

[ktrain]

Must have worked the chains (lol)

[AZTiger]

You have no idea how badly I racked up yardage on Katy during my playing days at Madison.....this is a message board so my life is not relevant, but you don't know of what you speak.

Well, it wasn't when I played, because we never played Madison. If you played in 1986 with Madison, then congrats, yall whipped us. If you were part of the C. Lewis/VY crew....hey, you beat us once out of 3 tries, congratulations.

But see what I mean, the tone of your post. It's about your INDIVIDUAL accomplishment. At Katy, the players care about more, like getting that big fat ring.

[SuperBuffs]

Well, it wasn't when I played, because we never played Madison. If you played in 1986 with Madison, then congrats, yall whipped us. If you were part of the C. Lewis/VY crew....hey, you beat us once out of 3 tries, congratulations.

But see what I mean, the tone of your post. It's about your INDIVIDUAL accomplishment. At Katy, the players care about more, like getting that big fat ring.

I have never lost to Katy in football, so I won't bore you with that.....and I got my ring on the basketball team.....we didn't see Katy there...

but does anyone want to discuss football?....if not go post somewhere else.....
The Strake game is a few days away and all I'm getting is nonsense, if FB Marshall is not your team, it's ok to go elsewhere....

I'M NOT MAD AT YA......

[AZTiger]

So when did you play at Madison?

What kind of defense does Marshall run? (there, football discussion, ya happy?)

[KT2000]

I can't figure out why your username wouldn't be Marlin or Madison related if that's where you went. Your boys are in the playoffs and sporting a 9-1 record, and you are spending all this energy on Marshall? Just a little odd to me.

Anyway, we'll get our answers before long and everything will sort itself out on the field like it always does.

[SuperBuffs]

So when did you play at Madison?

What kind of defense does Marshall run? (there, football discussion, ya happy?)

Yea, I'm happy....FB Marshall runs a 5 three defense....a little weak on the strong side, but that kid has been working on his technique.....If you come to the game, watch Strake try to exploit him.

I don't want to say when I played for the Marlins, but we almost won State.

[KT2000]

Now you just gave it away. Plus, with the basketball reference it's not that hard to figure out.

[AZTiger]

5-3 huh? are the CBs that good to be out on islands like that? Don't see many teams going with that front anymore. The typical trend these days has been more towards nickel D's like the 3-3-5

[SuperBuffs]

I can't figure out why your username wouldn't be Marlin or Madison related if that's where you went. Your boys are in the playoffs and sporting a 9-1 record, and you are spending all this energy on Marshall? Just a little odd to me.

Anyway, we'll get our answers before long and everything will sort itself out on the field like it always does.

I said why on another post, I cover sports and I was assign MO City, I wanted HISD, mainly for Lamar and Madison. But being low man I was given 20-5A....I saw this team play and liked them. They got no exposure so I started following them. I did not think their defense was all that good, but the offense is worth the price of admission.

I follow La Porte, Pearland and Madison.......

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I don't want to say when I played for the Marlins, but we almost won State.

We played the Marlins when I was with the Appollos. Used to have some great pep rallys. Beat the Marlin Masterba........................ lol, just having fun. :) :D

[SuperBuffs]

5-3 huh? are the CBs that good to be out on islands like that? Don't see many teams going with that front anymore. The typical trend these days has been more towards nickel D's like the 3-3-5


I know what you mean, I figure the same thing but check this out.....I was watching the Austin game when I saw this. Austin had 3rd and like 15, Marshall stacked the line.....SHOWING BLITZ....the linebackers rushed and the defensive ends fell back into the pass coverage.....

The Bulldogs fell for it, Marshall intercepted the pass...stopped drive...I later found out that some of their linemen are faster than the DB's. Which probably explains why they are weak against the rush.

[AZTiger]

Yeah it's called a zone blitz. If that's what they like to do, then yeah I could imagine them putting some LB types at DL and vice versa. However, there is tape of that floating around, I'm sure some smarter coaches have picked up on that already.

[SuperBuffs]

We played the Marlins when I was with the Appollos. Used to have some great pep rallys. Beat the Marlin Masterba........................ lol, just having fun. :) :D

I don't know when you where at Sharpstown, but you guys beat us one year by 1 point and keep us out of the playoffs.....boy that sucked!

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I don't know when you where at Sharpstown, but you guys beat us one year by 1 point and keep us out of the playoffs.....boy that sucked!

I know how you feel Super. It's feels bad when you lose brother. We were mainly known for our baseball program(early 80's). Pearland was dam good at baseball too.

[AZTiger]

Sharpstown put out my favorite RB in NCAA to watch, Joseph Addai. Why LSU even bothers playing the other RBs is beyond me.

[SuperBuffs]

Yeah it's called a zone blitz. If that's what they like to do, then yeah I could imagine them putting some LB types at DL and vice versa. However, there is tape of that floating around, I'm sure some smarter coaches have picked up on that already.


Oh heck yea, everyone has video camera now.....there are pros and cons when you have track runners on the line....the big disadvantage is size....the really good schools have beef. If you look at the final stats, FB Marshall is a beast on offense....Defense, nowhere to be seen.....that will hurt the Buffs.

I don't think you can play "WE WILL JUST BIG PLAY YOU TO DEATH" with every team....but that is the hand they are dealt this season.

[HUM398]

Buff, Marshall is being hyped up. There good, dont get me wrong. there just not Playoff caliber yet.

[SuperBuffs]

I know how you feel Super. It's feels bad when you lose brother. We were mainly known for our baseball program(early 80's). Pearland was dam good at baseball too.

Hey, did you know Mike Cuellar Jr.?, his father pitched in the majors....I played baseball with him, I think he transferred to Pearland around that time. You know, I played ball many year and don't remember much.....

BUT YOU NEVER GET OVER A ONE POINT LOSS.....ONE POINT KEPT THE BEST DEFENSE IN HOUSTON OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS.....

[KT2000]

Strake Jesuit has a better team than Hightower and Kempner in my opinion, so we'll see how Marshall handles that. Jesuit is a well-coached bunch and I think they'll be ready to play.

I think Marshall's offense is as explosive as advertised, but don't know if they'll be able to do that consistently against playoff level teams like they did in 20-5A. Playoff teams won't give them that many INTs, fumbles, etc.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Strake Jesuit has a better team than Hightower and Kempner.

Hightower yes, Kempner no. Simply because Cinco is as good as Kempner and Cinco would have beat Hastings. I've got Kempner barely getting past Hastings, but I don't think they would get past Cinco.

[KT2000]

As you know, this game is about match-ups and Strake would do that very favorably against Kempner. Kempner's strength is run defense, but Strake would be able to hit them over the top with passes to Tyree. Strake Jesuit's defense would definitely be good enough to hold Kempner under 10 points.

[SuperBuffs]

Hightower yes, Kempner no. Simply because Cinco is as good as Kempner and Cinco would have beat Hastings. I've got Kempner barely getting past Hastings, but I don't think they would get past Cinco.

I agree.....Hightower needs a running back and they have a good fullback, he playing on the defensive line....he transferred from Bellaire and can carry the rock. Kempner can knock head, I don't know how they loss so many games.....I think Cinco Ranch's offense is better, but I don't think their defense is better than Kempners.

[SuperBuffs]

As you know, this game is about match-ups and Strake would do that very favorably against Kempner. Kempner's strength is run defense, but Strake would be able to hit them over the top with passes to Tyree. Strake Jesuit's defense would definitely be good enough to hold Kempner under 10 points.

I have not seen Strake, but judging from the tapes.....Tyree is a good player...he goes both ways, right? That's not good this time of year against speed teams. Kempner's offense is not good, so under 10 points is right on the mark.

If Strake's defense is anything like Kempner's, then the Buffs better strap it on....however, Marshall will throw over the top.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I won't argue the point with you. You are more knowledgeable than me, as most are. Maybe Cinco got lucky against Strake. I don't think so. They were pumped. All I'm saying is Cinco would beat Kempner. More than anything I want Strake to win. Do I think they will win, no.

[KT2000]

Stephen Tyree plays free safety and receiver. He's 6'3, 185 pounds. A legit D1 prospect. So, his size is beneficial at the back on this level. Very good hands and leaping ability.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I have invited predictions on the final score of this game. So far only Superbuffs and Tut have responded. Come on KT2000 put it out there.

[SuperBuffs]

I won't argue the point with you. You are more knowledgeable than me, as most are. Maybe Cinco got lucky against Strake. I don't think so. They were pumped. All I'm saying is Cinco would beat Kempner. More than anything I want Strake to win. Do I think they will win, no.

Think about this, I was telling someone about how you play harder against rivals....Marshall vs Hightower as oppose to Hightower vs Memorial..(non-rivals)

Did you read that Chronicle or Katy Times about how they wanted to keep the 19-5A title in Katy, not Houston.....
Cinco Ranch's Lambert? who stopped Strake's QB on the goal ine from scoring. He says' "NO WAY I WAS LETTING HIM SCORE".....I know it's not a big rivalry but those situation have to be considered when you compare win/loss records to common opponents.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

Think about this, I was telling someone about how you play harder against rivals....Marshall vs Hightower as oppose to Hightower vs Memorial..(non-rivals)

Did you read that Chronicle or Katy Times about how they wanted to keep the 19-5A title in Katy, not Houston.....
Cinco Ranch's Lambert? who stopped Strake's QB on the goal ine from scoring. He says' "NO WAY I WAS LETTING HIM SCORE".....I know it's not a big rivalry but those situation have to be considered when you compare win/loss records to common opponents.

That aside, Cinco would still beat Kempner. Cinco would get up for the game and Kempner would lay down.

[KT2000]

Didn't see your scores thread, so I'll put it here.

Marshall 27 Strake Jesuit 17

[SuperBuffs]

Didn't see your scores thread, so I'll put it here.

Marshall 27 Strake Jesuit 17


Thanks, I will be out of town until friday.....I will miss the football chat, hope my blackberry works.

GO BUFFS!