2006 UIL Realignment

[Rerun]

Lets talk about the UIL bi-annual realignment coming up in January of 2006. What will happen then? What 5A schools drop? What 4A schools move up to 5A? What districts are shaken up a lot? Any teams get moved into idfferent regions? What is yalls take?

[Rerun]

I demand immediate answers. What is your take? :mad:

[03mustangwideout]

What ever the changes please get North Shore out of Pasedena ISD district please god do that for us.

[MojoRaiderPower]

I demand SA Central be put back with the rest of The Little SWC!!! district 3-5A the best in the state!!! :D

[LeanderLions3033]

One thing that is almost for sure for Leander, is that we will be moved down to 4a, and Vista Ridge will be moved up to 5a (vista ridge, the new School in the Leander Cedar Park area, that draws students from both schools). Cedar Park will be big enough to remain 5a, but we were already sitting at about 2200 students, Cedar Park had somwhere around 2800-3200 students. Theres no way we stay 5a.

[badger95]

One thing that is almost for sure for Leander, is that we will be moved down to 4a, and Vista Ridge will be moved up to 5a (vista ridge, the new School in the Leander Cedar Park area, that draws students from both schools). Cedar Park will be big enough to remain 5a, but we were already sitting at about 2200 students, Cedar Park had somwhere around 2800-3200 students. Theres no way we stay 5a.

If that's true, then look for Vista Ridge to take your spot in that district. I wonder if P'ville Connally, Hendrickson, or the Killeen schools will go 5a? I also wonder if Anderson and Crockett can stay up in 5a? What will Lehman come in at (4A or 5A)? Those are questions that will affect the Austin area districts. I do know that Westlake and the AISD school 5A district will probably stay in Region II because the Valley and SA are growing too fast.

[PackAttack2005]

I hope the UIL will move all the Austin schools back to Region IV where they belong.

I think you will see Lufkin moved out of 14-5A and Huntsville and maybe Conroe Oak Ridge back to 4A. Then you add the new Woodlands @ College Park HS, Spring Westfield and Spring back to 14-5A. Lufkin will be moved over to a Hwy 59 District with the three Humble schools, New Caney and a couple of others to be named later. There is also a chance that some of the schools in the metro-plex in the area of Wylie and Frisco could move up and shake up the structure of the Mesquite and Garland districts. Lufkin could go back North, who knows what will happen. Lufkin is stuck out in no mans land right now in the middle of East Texas, just put us somewhere and let us play. I fear that the UIL will move Lufkin around so much we won't be able to form any natural rivalries with anyone as we had in the old East Texas district for 70 years.

I think eventually in maybe 6-8 more years, Lufkin and all the old East Texas district will be back together again as 4A teams, that seems to be the direction for East Texas 5A schools. Right now we only have 4 legit 5A teams in East Texas, Lufkin(2300), Longview(2118), Tyler Lee(2480) and John Tyler(1965), if the UIL continues to raise enrollment ratios for 5A each realignment, it is inevitable that all those schools would be 4A in the future.

This will be a crazy realignment in 2006 because there will be lots of schools moving up to 5A and a few old standards from 5A moving down. Also with the 4 teams from each district going to the playoff starting in 2006, it will be interesting to see the mix of teams in each district.

[dragonsdaddy]

the little swc better come up with 8 5a schools real fast, or they will be divided. hate to see it happen, but there don't seem to be many sacred cows anymore.

[PackAttack2005]

Dragonsdaddy your right, the Texas HS football landscapes are changing! :confused:

[CoppellCowboy57]

I hope Coppell gets out of our current district with Trinty and Irving Schools...I rather face SLC then Irving, Trinty, Irving Mac, and SGP...
This would be my dream district, Grapevine, Collyville, Lewisville, Marcus, FlowerMound, SLC, and the Colony...I can promis you we would be a play-off team...again...

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I hope we drop down to 4A. I miss playing Nederland and PN-G. :(

[wide-e-wide]

We lived in Nederland back in the late 70's and early 80's...
My older sister swears that Woody Harrelson was Nederland's
QB back then. Anybody know if that is true?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

We lived in Nederland back in the late 70's and early 80's...
My older sister swears that Woody Harrelson was Nederland's
QB back then. Anybody know if that is true?
Uh, I think NOT TRUE. :D

If it is they sure don't claim him....LOL

[Slim-Rob]

Judson will be 5A and Wagner (new school in JISD) might be 5A by the 2006 season. I heard something around 1700 students in the 2005-2006 school year, with no senior class, then more than 2000 students in the 2006-2007 school year.

[Dawg Fan]

the little swc better come up with 8 5a schools real fast, or they will be divided. hate to see it happen, but there don't seem to be many sacred cows anymore.

I have to agree with you on this one. This district has been together for a very long time and has a lot of tradition and splitting it up would be very sad indeed. :(

[Sting2Viper]

4 teams from each district will go to the playoffs. Lately, I've been hearing about these 10 team super-districts. Does that mean there'll be fewer districts with more teams? Or is it that many more moving up to 5A.

[cougardude]

4 teams from each district will go to the playoffs. Lately, I've been hearing about these 10 team super-districts. Does that mean there'll be fewer districts with more teams? Or is it that many more moving up to 5A.

The four team's in the playoffs doesn't start until the 2006-07 school year. ;)

[Sting2Viper]

Right, I'm aware of that. And that's the subject of this thread..the changes and re-alignment for 2006.

[LeanderLions3033]

Wow i would like to see the Austin Area schools move to region 4. Nothing against the region, but minues the notorious 265, our district would represent better than any others (our district being 15-5a). I think we could make just as many runs at region 4 championships and state championship runs as 26-5a. It was early in the year, but Pflugerville took it to smithson valley on their home field (how many times in the past few years have they lost their?) and almost beat a semi finalist Converse Judson team at home but lost 26-28. Pflugerivlle is known for their slow starts, and they werent even the best team in our district last year. Its a weird comparison because their would have to be alot of changes for us to move to region 4, but you can dream right ;) .

[cougardude]

Right, I'm aware of that. And that's the subject of this thread..the changes and re-alignment for 2006.

Ok, sorry! I HATE the four-team setup! :mad:

[nsmustang]

I fully agree with you AIG. NS needs to be in a strong district to really guage how good they are. Come win or lose I'd like to see them play good teams consistantly. Years ago they were a good fit for that district and often was the whipping boy. Now, they have become the monster in it.





What ever the changes please get North Shore out of Pasedena ISD district please god do that for us.

[DrEdward]

I hope Coppell gets out of our current district with Trinty and Irving Schools...I rather face SLC then Irving, Trinty, Irving Mac, and SGP...
This would be my dream district, Grapevine, Collyville, Lewisville, Marcus, FlowerMound, SLC, and the Colony...I can promis you we would be a play-off team...again...

Regardless of district alignment, Coppell plays Carroll every year in any event. Of course, the Cowboys typically lose that game, so why would you want that loss to count as a district loss? :D However, since Ryan will likely head back to 4A once Denton opens a new high school, then moving the cowboys into what is now the current 5-5A makes sense.

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

Here is what i think may happen

Lufkin is moved to a new district with the 2 woodlands schools and then huntsville humble kingwood and the 2 spring schools because my cousin said spring was unhappy playin in the port arthur district

it could happen

[Oldlynx]

I demand SA Central be put back with the rest of The Little SWC!!! district 3-5A the best in the state!!! :D

As much as I'd love to see it, I don't think it will happen. I think the UIL has something especially nasty planned for Abilene and San Angelo...

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Here is what i think may happen

Lufkin is moved to a new district with the 2 woodlands schools and then huntsville humble kingwood and the 2 spring schools because my cousin said spring was unhappy playin in the port arthur district

it could happen
I think spring is un-happy because they can't even get outta region 3 to get a state title, and also WILL NOT ever win the district as long as we are there and Westfield and also Baytown Lee.

[twhfan#1]

Here is what i think may happen

Lufkin is moved to a new district with the 2 woodlands schools and then huntsville humble kingwood and the 2 spring schools because my cousin said spring was unhappy playin in the port arthur district

it could happen

Number 1 --it dont matter what your cousin said

Number 2 -- it dont matter if Spring is unhappy , happy , sad , glad , or mad

Number 3 --- The 2 Woodlands schools will be still be with the other 2 Conroe ISD schools (Conroe & Oak Ridge --they will still be 5 A )

Number 4 --- it dont matter about Number 1 ,2 , 3 above ---- the only thing that matters is what the UIL does --and they havent even started -- UIL doesnt start re-alignment process until they get attendance numbers in October --just as example why nothing matters about what schools want -- The Woodlands is closer to Spring stadium than to Conroe --but Woodlands put in district with Huntsville & Lufkin

[NewSherriffInTown]

It's pretty crazy that they do this every two years. Rivalries are the KEY to HS athletics in my opinion. How can they do this all the time???

[jrdaniel]

Well the reasoning behind redistricting every two years is good, it's the actions of the UIL that are suspect. If you have new schools popping up all over the place and schools growing at the rate they are, you have to realign often to keep the district composed of neighboring schools. However when you are SA Jefferson (a school well inside San Antonio), for example, and you have to travel through several school zones - which are in another UIL district - on your way to play San Marcos almost an hour away, it can get old quick. Just wish UIL would bring a map with them to the next realignment meeting.

[Papa LoneStar]

I just hope they keep Duncanville, DeSoto, and Cedar Hill 2gether

[jtk1519]

I have a couple of theories...

One thing that must be said concerns El Paso. They have one 5A district now, but they used to have two until a couple of years ago when a bunch of schools were dropped to 4A. Most of those schools are still hovering around that 4A/5A cutoff and the recent base realignments are sending an estimated 20,000 troops to El Paso. With those troops will come their families along with civilians and their families. It may not be this coming realignment, but soon El Paso will probably have two 5A districts again which could shift everything once again.

Everything is of course dependent upon what the UIL does with the cutoff number. They could raise it as has been the trend, or they could lower it or leave it unchanged to allow some schools to move up allowing the UIL to create a bunch of 8 team districts.

As for the Little Southwest Conference... on this subject I am a bit of "glass half empty" kind of guy. I dont see the LSWC surviving this realignment. Assuming all our schools remain 5A, I think you will see the Midland and Odessa schools join the Amarillo and Lubbock schools. The Abilene schools would probably be sent East to a district with Western Metroplex teams like Wetherford, Granbury, etc. I think San Angelo Central will be joining a central Texas district with teams like Copperas Cove. It is possible (though I think very unlikely) that the UIL could send Central and the Abilene schools to central Texas like they did Brownwood in 4A a couple of years ago.

Another possibility is that the Abilene schools could drop to 4A... though I think this is the least likely of anything I have said. Both Abilene schools are right around 2000-2200 students with Cooper being the smallest. The problem in Abilene is that all of our growth is occurring on the edges of the city and in the surrounding towns... outside the boundary of the AISD. So, while growth in the high schools is projected, it is still several years off and wont be a huge boom. If the Abilene schools were to drop to 4A, we could be joining one helluva district. We would more than likely be put in a district with Stephenville, Brownwood and San Angelo Lakeview. All those schools are within about 90 miles of Abilene so our travel would be greatly reduced. On top of that, Abilene Wylie should move into 4A as they have continued to grow and they missed the 4A mark by just a few students in '04. All that being said, our administration has said they would not let the schools fall to 4A which has upset quite a few people in the city who would rather see the schools in 4A. The AISD has said the will petition and do whatever they can to keep both schools at the 5A level.

All this is just speculation of course. In the end, the UIL has a history of doing some crazy things.

[dragonsdaddy]

the uil has been stating rather adamantly that staying up will be much less likely in the present and future realignments. that is as always subject to change.

[jtk1519]

BTW, I think with the UIL deciding to send 4 teams to the playoffs, that is a sign that they are going to make some massive changes in '06. I think we'll probably see mostly 8 team districts, with a few 9 and even 10 team districts thrown in.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Regardless of district alignment, Coppell plays Carroll every year in any event. Of course, the Cowboys typically lose that game, so why would you want that loss to count as a district loss? :D However, since Ryan will likely head back to 4A once Denton opens a new high school, then moving the cowboys into what is now the current 5-5A makes sense.
better then not making the play-off isnt it

[YouKnowTha3T]

I hope Coppell gets out of our current district with Trinty and Irving Schools...I rather face SLC then Irving, Trinty, Irving Mac, and SGP...
This would be my dream district, Grapevine, Collyville, Lewisville, Marcus, FlowerMound, SLC, and the Colony...I can promis you we would be a play-off team...again...


of course you would be a playoff team again..only one of those made the playoffs last year...

[Rerun]

Well the reasoning behind redistricting every two years is good, it's the actions of the UIL that are suspect. If you have new schools popping up all over the place and schools growing at the rate they are, you have to realign often to keep the district composed of neighboring schools. However when you are SA Jefferson (a school well inside San Antonio), for example, and you have to travel through several school zones - which are in another UIL district - on your way to play San Marcos almost an hour away, it can get old quick. Just wish UIL would bring a map with them to the next realignment meeting.

and what 5A district would you like to see Jefferson in? 25-5A was the only reasonable option.

[Texas Hammer]

Wow i would like to see the Austin Area schools move to region 4. Nothing against the region, but minues the notorious 265, our district would represent better than any others (our district being 15-5a). I think we could make just as many runs at region 4 championships and state championship runs as 26-5a. It was early in the year, but Pflugerville took it to smithson valley on their home field (how many times in the past few years have they lost their?) and almost beat a semi finalist Converse Judson team at home but lost 26-28. Pflugerivlle is known for their slow starts, and they werent even the best team in our district last year. Its a weird comparison because their would have to be alot of changes for us to move to region 4, but you can dream right ;) .
SV was undefeated at home for a few years until Pflugerville took it to them. Judson promptly went to Spring Branch and won, too.

[Panthers86]

I believe the little SWC unfortunately is doomed, sooner or later. I believe Midland/Odessa and Lubbock/Amarillo will combine, letting Abilene and SA Central go elsewhere. That gives you nine teams. Amarillo is the real "problem" location and for better or worse LBK & AMA are always going to be together....so the tough question is who do you geographically pair them with? It will be a while before any 4A team near LBK/AMA could move up to give them at least 6 teams by themselves (Frenship) and quite frankly... there could be at least one drop down before that.

Just so you "city" boys know, it is close to a 5 hour drive from Amarillo to Midland/Odessa, but that is not something new as most teams out here are road warriors anyway.

...and while we are on that soap box, W Tx people just love to hear about so many "city" teams and the "how far we travel" complaints. What did it take you...45min in traffic? Ok that may be a little unfair, but many of you know what I mean...and I just had say it. :)

[CoppellCowboy57]

of course you would be a playoff team again..only one of those made the playoffs last year...

Haha I hated the district we played in, Coppell was really the odd man out. I mean sirously Irving ISD, HEB, GPISD? how does coppell fit into that

[BAMF cowboy]

This might've already been said, I'm too lazy to read through the entire thread, but I've heard that Richland will be moving down to 4A, Keller Central will be moved to 5A and join the 5 - 5A teams. I also heard Denton Ryan is likely to join new district foes. Just what I've heard, I have no confirmation.

[dragonsdaddy]

dryan will most likely return to 4a with the next realignment as they are opening a new school this year.

[LeanderLions3033]

I dont see why LISD makes a new school when we are already the 2nd or 3rd smallest school in the district. They call it Cedar Park Vista Ridge even though most of the kids at the school would be zoned to go to Leander. This may not mean much to anybody else, but Block House Creek is the main subdivision in Leander, and now all of those kids are zoned to go to Vista Ridge. That subdivision alone probably makes up for about a 1/4 of our school.

[dragonsdaddy]

many school boards have made a conscious decision to keep school sizes down. frisco isd pledged to build schools that would be 4a at the largest. they expect to build 7 4a schools at grow out. as long as the tax payers are on board, they are certainly free to do that. school size as well as class size is an important aspect of school quality.

[Rerun]

i have said it before and i will say it again. in schertz and cibolo, there have been "rumors" that I have heard more than once about WHEN the student body reaches capacity at clemens and steele for both to be in class 5A, then a third high school will be built. The districts total enrollment is expected to double in the next 5-7 years from various reports i have seen and heard. clemens and or steele may play in class 5A again in a few years down the road, but not for long.