Dallas Carter - Euless Trinity Scrimage

[jbusch]

Dallas Carter will be 4A Champs

[trojan-man]

who was the running back for trinity? number 26?

[da wiz]

Dallas Carter will be 4A Champs

i always trust your knowledge, i had to work, they must have left a
very good impression for you too say that...........

[LoneRocket]

Dallas Carter will be 4A Champs

Please give us a full report, both sides of the ball and running and passing game.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Dallas Carter has some big players on both sides of the ball. Their backs have good speed and good moves. On the first series of the 1st string offense for Carter, the QB had open receivers and made some good passes down field. Since Carter has gone down to 4A, they'll make some noise in the playoffs.
As I've said before, Trinity can't throw, much less have a receiver that can catch a ball. The RB's are slow behind an offensive line that can't block. The defense looked like they were hesitate to hit anyone and they were slow to the ball, too. The FG kicker couldn't hit a barn much less put the ball through the goal posts. It's going to be a long year for Trinity fans.

[farmerfan]

Dallas Carter has some big players on both sides of the ball. Their backs have good speed and good moves. On the first series of the 1st string offense for Carter, the QB had open receivers and made some good passes down field. Since Carter has gone down to 4A, they'll make some noise in the playoffs.
As I've said before, Trinity can't throw, much less have a receiver that can catch a ball. The RB's are slow behind an offensive line that can't block. The defense looked like they were hesitate to hit anyone and they were slow to the ball, too. The FG kicker couldn't hit a barn much less put the ball through the goal posts. It's going to be a long year for Trinity fans.

You're too funny my friend.
:D

[pack0808]

Dallas Carter has some big players on both sides of the ball. Their backs have good speed and good moves. On the first series of the 1st string offense for Carter, the QB had open receivers and made some good passes down field. Since Carter has gone down to 4A, they'll make some noise in the playoffs.
As I've said before, Trinity can't throw, much less have a receiver that can catch a ball. The RB's are slow behind an offensive line that can't block. The defense looked like they were hesitate to hit anyone and they were slow to the ball, too. The FG kicker couldn't hit a barn much less put the ball through the goal posts. It's going to be a long year for Trinity fans.



Wow and I thought that many were severely overrating my LP Panthers. Isn't Trinity #1 in state and #1 in some national polls. :eek: I am sure you have to be exaggerating a little right?

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

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Wow and I thought that many were severely overrating my LP Panthers. Isn't Trinity #1 in state and #1 in some national polls. :eek: I am sure you have to be exaggerating a little right?

I know it's impossible now but I'd like Trinity to fly under the radar for a while.

[TrojanHorse03]

You're too funny my friend.
:D

We certainly have some work to do before the first game for John Curtis(who I'm sure was in attendance) but it wasn't a bad team evaluation.

[farmerfan]

We certainly have some work to do before the first game for John Curtis(who I'm sure was in attendance) but it wasn't a bad team evaluation.

I showed up late and really didnt get to see any of the first teamers, I was hoping to see the live game portion but I guess with the rain delay they decided it was too late to start.
What I did see was good though, the second teamers have some speed and looked pretty good.
Carter is some kind of fast too.
Scrimmages dont mean a hill of beans though, I am quite positive Coach Lineweaver will have the Trojans more than prepared for JC and ready to play next Monday. I just hope I'm ready to tolerate that heat :mad:

[twcpfan1]

Dallas Carter will be 4A Champs

they'll beat Longview?

[jbusch]

Please give us a full report, both sides of the ball and running and passing game.
No - I could tell ya but then I'd have to kill ya and we wouldn't want that.:D

Carter is Big, physical talented and fast - it ET took a while but they handled them for the most part, ( in my homer opinion :D) Carter may not win state but they will at least go a long way in the playoffs a HP - Carter game would be a treat

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

they'll beat Longview?

If Carter doesn't beat Longview, Longview will definitely remember the night they played the Cowboys.

[hunterbunter]

Dallas Carter has some big players on both sides of the ball. Their backs have good speed and good moves. On the first series of the 1st string offense for Carter, the QB had open receivers and made some good passes down field. Since Carter has gone down to 4A, they'll make some noise in the playoffs.
As I've said before, Trinity can't throw, much less have a receiver that can catch a ball. The RB's are slow behind an offensive line that can't block. The defense looked like they were hesitate to hit anyone and they were slow to the ball, too. The FG kicker couldn't hit a barn much less put the ball through the goal posts. It's going to be a long year for Trinity fans.

even i who has no sarcasm radar picked that one up :D

[jbusch]

they'll beat Longview? I probably shot off my mouth on the championship prediction but as others said they look like a playoff team that could go deep into the 2nd season. Depth may be an issue.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

farmerfan, sorry we missed seeing you tonight. Maybe we can meet up at Texas Stadium - my group will be at the top on the 50 yard line. Of course, we'll be out at TS early just to wait to get in.

[LoneRocket]

Dallas Carter has some big players on both sides of the ball. Their backs have good speed and good moves. On the first series of the 1st string offense for Carter, the QB had open receivers and made some good passes down field. Since Carter has gone down to 4A, they'll make some noise in the playoffs.
As I've said before, Trinity can't throw, much less have a receiver that can catch a ball. The RB's are slow behind an offensive line that can't block. The defense looked like they were hesitate to hit anyone and they were slow to the ball, too. The FG kicker couldn't hit a barn much less put the ball through the goal posts. It's going to be a long year for Trinity fans.

When I saw them play last year, I thought if the Carter QB uses the FB and RB more when they run the option he would be one of the most dangerous players in the state.

[jbusch]

BTW - this was a controlled scrimage not a simulated game.

[farmerfan]

farmerfan, sorry we missed seeing you tonight. Maybe we can meet up at Texas Stadium - my group will be at the top on the 50 yard line. Of course, we'll be out at TS early just to wait to get in.

I didn't even know I was going to go until I got home from Chilis and was bored so I called the Bigfoot family and they were at Penington. Nice to be able to get there in less than 5 mins, so I decided to go.
I am pretty sure our crew will be right around yours like playoff games last year so I am pretty sure you will see us
I have talked some of our crew in going to the Lewisville/Grand Prarie game with me this Friday at the Gopher/Warrior Bowl. You or any of the other Trinity fans are more than welcome to join us there if you like.
I know its not exactly an exciting match up but its football and keeps me out of the bars on a Friday night ;):D

[twcpfan1]

BTW - this was a controlled scrimage not a simulated game.

The money hungry UIL could really benefit if instead of scrimmage week, they just moved week 0 forward 1 week and have an extra pre district game. Frankly, I don't see why they don't just do it.

[LoneRocket]

The money hungry UIL could really benefit if instead of scrimmage week, they just moved week 0 forward 1 week and have an extra pre district game. Frankly, I don't see why they don't just do it.

If that is the case an extra game could mean D1 winner plays D2 winner.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

I didn't even know I was going to go until I got home from Chilis and was bored so I called the Bigfoot family and they were at Penington. Nice to be able to get there in less than 5 mins, so I decided to go.
I am pretty sure our crew will be right around yours like playoff games last year so I am pretty sure you will see us
I have talked some of our crew in going to the Lewisville/Grand Prarie game with me this Friday at the Gopher/Warrior Bowl. You or any of the other Trinity fans are more than welcome to join us there if you like.
I know its not exactly an exciting match up but its football and keeps me out of the bars on a Friday night ;):D
GRAND PRAIRIE! What's the point spread on that game?
I'll keep your game in mind - Friday's too far off in the future for me to make plans yet. For me, the only thing set in concrete is Trinity's schedule.
A few of us even went to North Main BBQ before the scrimmage and talked football. I'm saying thanks to the football gods that football season is finally here!:notworthy

[jbusch]

I didn't even know I was going to go until I got home from Chilis and was bored so I called the Bigfoot family and they were at Penington. Nice to be able to get there in less than 5 mins, so I decided to go.
I am pretty sure our crew will be right around yours like playoff games last year so I am pretty sure you will see us
I have talked some of our crew in going to the Lewisville/Grand Prarie game with me this Friday at the Gopher/Warrior Bowl. You or any of the other Trinity fans are more than welcome to join us there if you like.I know its not exactly an exciting match up but its football and keeps me out of the bars on a Friday night ;):D

Thanks for the offer but one of the benefits of being re-districted is that we don't have to go to the Gopher Warrior bowl . maybe a 6-man game is in order for me that night

[twcpfan1]

If that is the case an extra game could mean D1 winner plays D2 winner.

No. Better to extend the season for the whole state. But sure. If they want to add another week to the tail end of it, I won't complain.

[farmerfan]

Thanks for the offer but one of the benefits of being re-districted is that we don't have to go to the Gopher Warrior bowl . maybe a 6-man game is in order for me that night

No worries.
Outside of the lack of parking and fighting I-30 and 360, What's wrong with the Gopher/Warrior Bowl?
I think it is one of the better stadiums in the entire metroplex.

[farmerfan]

GRAND PRAIRIE! What's the point spread on that game?
I'll keep your game in mind - Friday's too far off in the future for me to make plans yet. For me, the only thing set in concrete is Trinity's schedule.
A few of us even went to North Main BBQ before the scrimmage and talked football. I'm saying thanks to the football gods that football season is finally here!:notworthy

There's no telling what the point spread is, however, last time we played there GP shocked us in teh final minutes and beat us.
Hopefully we can have a better preformance this time around.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

No worries.
Outside of the lack of parking and fighting I-30 and 360, What's wrong with the Gopher/Warrior Bowl?
I think it is one of the better stadiums in the entire metroplex.
They have one of the best concession stands in any high school stadium that I've seen. They open early, have plenty of food, people to serve you, and it's right behind the seats.
Except for the loss of sideline vision, I've always liked the Gopher/Warrior Bowl. I've even figured out where to park there so we can get in and out easy.

[farmerfan]

They have one of the best concession stands in any high school stadium that I've seen. They open early, have plenty of food, people to serve you, and it's right behind the seats.
Except for the loss of sideline vision, I've always liked the Gopher/Warrior Bowl. I've even figured out where to park there so we can get in and out easy.

Yeah, when we went two years ago we just parked in a neighborhood and walked to the stadium. Got out of there in no time, of course its not like we had a huge crowd to deal with.

[grayowl60]

If Carter doesn't beat Longview, Longview will definitely remember the night they played the Cowboys.
Somebody has to play Rockwall first:D

[jbusch]

Somebody has to play Rockwall first:D
4A will be very competitive this year. lots of tough previous 4A teams and 5A move downs.

Carter is huge, lots bigger than ET in the OL ( Not as Mobile as ET as ET had some 300 lb'ers 30 yards down field on running plays) but solid , but it will be interesting to see how teams can deal with Carters size.

[baylordad]

There's no telling what the point spread is, however, last time we played there GP shocked us in teh final minutes and beat us.
Hopefully we can have a better preformance this time around.
LEWISVILLE FARMERS -13!! Your boys will do fine in this one!! At the Trinity/Carter Scrimmage I think that the Trinity's 5 runnings backs that played are the fastest I have seen in years!!

[d-train]

Dallas Carter will be 4A Champs
Waco and Cove were both better 5A schools than Carter and they didn't win 4A championships and in two games vs Trinity Waco got STEAMROLLED!

[d-train]

4A will be very competitive this year. lots of tough previous 4A teams and 5A move downs.

Carter is huge, lots bigger than ET in the OL ( Not as Mobile as ET as ET had some 300 lb'ers 30 yards down field on running plays) but solid , but it will be interesting to see how teams can deal with Carters size.
Judson rarely has huge OL, but they are always tough, quick and aggressive. Kids that play video games and eat all summer are all along the lines in the urban districts, and usually start because of lack of comp/depth.

[DrEdward]

I know it's impossible now but I'd like Trinity to fly under the radar for a while.

Come join the Dragons for awhile on the "We suck" train. :D

[jbusch]

Judson rarely has huge OL, but they are always tough, quick and aggressive. Kids that play video games and eat all summer are all along the lines in the urban districts, and usaully start because of lack of comp/depth.
a few years ago carter had huge lines but the weren't as muscular or mobile as the current team, these guys may be able to wear you down.

in the past few years smaller opposing teams have played ET's big front lines very well for a quarter or half, but when the adreniline wears off then the opposition tires out.

[trojanbacker]

I will state up front that I am not an expert on football. Just a long-time fan....so my views of last night's scrimmage are from that perspective.

I came away from the Trinity/Carter scrimmage feeling much as I did following the previous years' scrimmages against Carter, Midland, Coppell, etc....which is to say that we see very little of what the "real" Trinity team is going to look like. The starters get very few snaps and the 2's and 3's get most of the time on the field. Play selection is limited a handful of basic plays and the defense always seems to be playing very much under control vs. the usual flying around to the ball that we see during the games.

That being said, here's what I saw last night: On the few carries he had, Tray looked really good and appears to be fully recovered from last year's injuries. He also looks bigger. McGhee looked bigger as well and more confident and comfortable back there. He made a couple of very heady throws under pressure; plays that he might have rushed last year. And, our kicking game appears to be in very good hands. Where did this kid come from? It's been a long time since Trinity had a punter who could boom it like that.

I was really impressed with the backup QB and the collection of backs that played when Tray was not out there. There is some serious speed waiting in the wings.

I thought the defense looked good in limiting Carter to only one score (I think) but as I said earlier, they didn't appear to be playing with the same intensity that we will see during games.

As for Carter.....as has been stated earlier, they have some real talent, size and speed out there. That O line was huge. Depth is going to be an issue as they only suited up 35 last night. Their starting tailback (#3 - big, fast) also played defense and that is probably not good. I believe that their starting quarterback also played both ways.

I know there is come concern over all the new faces on the O line. I'm not an astute enough observer to know if they are good or not at this point. I will say that I saw the same effort we are used to from the Hawgs......big kids still going after it 30 yards downfield. That is encouraging.

So, that is my observation of the scrimmage. From a fan's perspective, sure...we'd like to see the starters line up in a game situation and go for a couple of quarters so that we can see what they have. But, it was a typical Lineweaver type of scrimmage: very controlled, pull the starters out quickly and look at what the "alternate starters" can do. I think he knows what he's doing.......

[CCBoy]

I will state up front that I am not an expert on football. Just a long-time fan....so my views of last night's scrimmage are from that perspective.

I came away from the Trinity/Carter scrimmage feeling much as I did following the previous years' scrimmages against Carter, Midland, Coppell, etc....which is to say that we see very little of what the "real" Trinity team is going to look like. The starters get very few snaps and the 2's and 3's get most of the time on the field. Play selection is limited a handful of basic plays and the defense always seems to be playing very much under control vs. the usual flying around to the ball that we see during the games.

That being said, here's what I saw last night: On the few carries he had, Tray looked really good and appears to be fully recovered from last year's injuries. He also looks bigger. McGhee looked bigger as well and more confident and comfortable back there. He made a couple of very heady throws under pressure; plays that he might have rushed last year. And, our kicking game appears to be in very good hands. Where did this kid come from? It's been a long time since Trinity had a punter who could boom it like that.

I was really impressed with the backup QB and the collection of backs that played when Tray was not out there. There is some serious speed waiting in the wings.

I thought the defense looked good in limiting Carter to only one score (I think) but as I said earlier, they didn't appear to be playing with the same intensity that we will see during games.

As for Carter.....as has been stated earlier, they have some real talent, size and speed out there. That O line was huge. Depth is going to be an issue as they only suited up 35 last night. Their starting tailback (#3 - big, fast) also played defense and that is probably not good. I believe that their starting quarterback also played both ways.

I know there is come concern over all the new faces on the O line. I'm not an astute enough observer to know if they are good or not at this point. I will say that I saw the same effort we are used to from the Hawgs......big kids still going after it 30 yards downfield. That is encouraging.

So, that is my observation of the scrimmage. From a fan's perspective, sure...we'd like to see the starters line up in a game situation and go for a couple of quarters so that we can see what they have. But, it was a typical Lineweaver type of scrimmage: very controlled, pull the starters out quickly and look at what the "alternate starters" can do. I think he knows what he's doing.......

#3 is one of Carter's back up RB's. #1 Anthony Miller is our starting RB. Anthony also plays LB on the D side of the ball. He is highly recruited on both sides too, but was limited in his main roll yesterday as RB. #2 Jarvis Phillips is our starting QB, and he hardly ever plays both sides of the ball. They'll use him on crucial 3rd or 4th down plays as a CB or Safety on D. They experimented a bit in different packages with evryone.

My take on the scrimmage was that Carter did what they were supposed to do, and they impressed me with their starting D. I won't put any stock into the results (Scrimmage), because I've seen Trinity for some years now, and I know what they are capable of. I wish Trinity the best of luck, and I want them too finish the year as number 1 team in the nation. I had a lot of fun with the Trinity Fans as well!

[CO99JTHS]

I usually pull for Carter....but this... I gotta say.....SELL!!!

[d-train]

35 players? 3A D1 champ Liberty Hill had 57.

[Trinity Trojan Fan For Li]

Carter's #80 was definitely fast and hard to bring down. Very impressive. He played on both sides of the ball last night, too.

[LoneRocket]

35 players? 3A D1 champ Liberty Hill had 57.

Liberty Hill and Alamo Heights are the exception when it comes to numbers. When I saw Carter last year they had 60-70 players on their sideline.

[StormingCowboy]

Dallas Carter will be 4A Champs

I wouldnt go this far!!

However, as Carter fans, we left feeling very optimistic about the season.

[FeeltheHaka]

This Carter team looked much better balanced then last year's team. More size on the line. I think depth will be a problem on their line.
One noticeable and positive change I saw was in Carter's coaching. The Coaches were more constructive and positive. Much different than the spastic jumping up and down yelling in the player's face approach. I think this really made a difference in the positive.

As far as Euless Trinity: I think an area that needs to be worked on is Tackling. I thought our tackling was not as good as in the past, and this is something we're kind of known for. It seemed our Oline and Dline still has great stamina! I noticed our guys still had gas in the tank, and Carter's lines were wearing down. Man, can Denarius McGhee work under pressure or what!!! I thought he was better under pressure. Running back and Receiver depth is great! Amazing how tall some of our guys have gotten over the summer! I was actually worried about our size; not so much (In a Borat accent.) I am just overall impressed with our depth. I don't think we will notice a dropoff at any position in case of injury. I'm sure the missed blocking assignments on offense, and defense blown coverage will be addressed in practice.

[StormingCowboy]

This Carter team looked much better balanced then last year's team. More size on the line. I think depth will be a problem on their line.
One noticeable and positive change I saw was in Carter's coaching. The Coaches were more constructive and positive. Much different than the spastic jumping up and down yelling in the player's face approach. I think this really made a difference in the positive.

As far as Euless Trinity: I think an area that needs to be worked on is Tackling. I thought our tackling was not as good as in the past, and this is something we're kind of known for. It seemed our Oline and Dline still has great stamina! I noticed our guys still had gas in the tank, and Carter's lines were wearing down. Man, can Denarius McGhee work under pressure or what!!! I thought he was better under pressure. Running back and Receiver depth is great! Amazing how tall some of our guys have gotten over the summer! I was actually worried about our size; not so much (In a Borat accent.) I am just overall impressed with our depth. I don't think we will notice a dropoff at any position in case of injury. I'm sure the missed blocking assignments on offense, and defense blown coverage will be addressed in practice.


I totally agree about the depth! Lack of depth caused the squad to tank last yr when they were hit hard with injuries. Many had returned at the end of the season.

I couldn't help but think that Carter will not see any lines like Trinity's until at least the 3rd round of the playoffs (if we make it that far). one thing Carter will see is more speed, starting this week!!!

[dragonpants]

Come join the Dragons for awhile on the "We suck" train. :D

I guess we decided not the cancel the season after all.

[jbusch]

I guess we decided not the cancel the season after all.
hopefully you won't regret that decision;)

[dragonpants]

hopefully you won't regret that decision;)

We will be ok, we are survivors.:cool:

[KLH75287]

Glad to hear that Carter is bouncing back. I'm sure they will make a lot of noise in 4A.

I seem to recall that ET struggled early last year against a pretty good team and then got revenge in a BIG way on their trip to the title.

I will be shocked if ET doesn't repeat.

[jbusch]

Glad to hear that Carter is bouncing back. I'm sure they will make a lot of noise in 4A.

I seem to recall that ET struggled early last year against a pretty good team and then got revenge in a BIG way on their trip to the title.

I will be shocked if ET doesn't repeat.

You can stand in all the water you want without a worry ;)

[TrinityTrojan80]

Glad to hear that Carter is bouncing back. I'm sure they will make a lot of noise in 4A.

I seem to recall that ET struggled early last year against a pretty good team and then got revenge in a BIG way on their trip to the title.

I will be shocked if ET doesn't repeat.


I'll bet Lineweaver didn't really want to show our best stuff with the John Curtis scouts in the press box. That doesn't in any way make me think less of the talent that I saw from Carter. I really thought the RB's were top notch, especially with the effort they gave. I felt like Carter gave a performance worthy of the admission.

It's a dose of what we will see all year having the tag of #1. It will be a feather in the cap for any team that can slay the "Dragon"! Sorry, I couldn't resist! If Trinity doesn't put someone away, they might have that little extra motivation & adrenaline to get the win. Perhaps, coach Lineweaver knows this and why he didn't want the tag of #1. I know he doesn't like to humiliate any team but if you leave them with hope, they will take advantage.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I totally agree about the depth! Lack of depth caused the squad to tank last yr when they were hit hard with injuries. Many had returned at the end of the season.

I couldn't help but think that Carter will not see any lines like Trinity's until at least the 3rd round of the playoffs (if we make it that far). one thing Carter will see is more speed, starting this week!!!

Hey SC..y'all play Lancaster this week, right? And, is the game at Lancaster or Kincaide?

[KLH75287]

You can stand in all the water you want without a worry ;)

That's what I was thinking.

I'll be there Monday to see what they've got myself.

[StormingCowboy]

Hey SC..y'all play Lancaster this week, right? And, is the game at Lancaster or Kincaide?

yep, @ kincaide

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

yep, @ kincaide

Gotcha! I'll be there to check out the "Oak Cliff" Cowboys.

Oh, and I've been hearing that Lancaster's entire secondary are D-1 prospects, including 2 or 3 back ups. I know that the Tigers always have the talent, but for years, they were stuck in the same district with Corsicana, Ennis, Waxahachie, and Wilmer-Hutchins back in the day.

Any truth to the Tigers secondary being that good?

[jbusch]

You can stand in all the water you want without a worry ;)

Just my ultra homer opinion:D

[StormingCowboy]

Gotcha! I'll be there to check out the "Oak Cliff" Cowboys.

Oh, and I've been hearing that Lancaster's entire secondary are D-1 prospects, including 2 or 3 back ups. I know that the Tigers always have the talent, but for years, they were stuck in the same district with Corsicana, Ennis, Waxahachie, and Wilmer-Hutchins back in the day.

Any truth to the Tigers secondary being that good?


That is true about the 4 d1 dbs. remember lancaster won state in track this spring?? they have a lot of speed over there!!

Remember this, Carter don't pass a lot anyway!!!!! I hope they tackle well!!

[grayowl60]

That is true about the 4 d1 dbs. remember lancaster won state in track this spring?? they have a lot of speed over there!!

Remember this, Carter don't pass a lot anyway!!!!! I hope they tackle well!!
I have been a C-Cowboy fan for years, but this year after the drop, I will be watching two other schools that dropped also. Rockwall and Longview. Like to see those three in some PO match ups

[TrojanHorse03]

That is true about the 4 d1 dbs. remember lancaster won state in track this spring?? they have a lot of speed over there!!

Remember this, Carter don't pass a lot anyway!!!!! I hope they tackle well!!

They better!

[StormingCowboy]

I have been a C-Cowboy fan for years, but this year after the drop, I will be watching two other schools that dropped also. Rockwall and Longview. Like to see those three in some PO match ups

Carter could see Rockwall in the 2nd round. It could be either Rockwall or Highland Park.

Longview possibly in the 3rd. If Rockwall or HP don't send us home!!