SV or San Marcos

[SVite]

Who will win 26 5A champ SV,or 25 5A runner-up San Marcos?

[TxLawDawg]

SV wins this one by 14.

[biggest buff fan]

SM wins a close one.

[TexasRed6x]

Sv plays in one of the hardest districts in the state.


SV 29
Sm 15


If they were playing at Sv it would be by at least 21 points.

[GoRangers]

SV has never lost to SM. I believe the streak continues.

[footballfanatic]

San Marcos has a great defense this year. They have speed on offense. This is the year they will get past the first round. Go Rattlers.

[Haysrebels#1]

i am picking SV on history,i think it is close throughout before SV pulls away late
SV-34
SM-21

[XSVRanger]

I can't see SV losing this one.

SV 35
SM 14

[RATTLERS316]

Who will win 26 5A champ SV,or 25 5A runner-up San Marcos?
i think this will be a very close game...both teams have excellent defenses and two different types of offense...whoever wins this game depends on how many mistakes they make...smithson valley is a very well coached and disciplined
team..ive always enjoyed going to see them play and we respect them very much, but we are not intimidated by them...but with san marcos getting them at home this year i think this is the year the rattlers finally crack one on them...san marcos 20, smithson valley 17...good luck to both teams and GO RATTLERS!!!! :)

[lonny23]

SV has the playoff experience.
SV has the better coach.
SV plays in a better district and has a better record.
SM is at home, but SV doesn't have to travel far.

Give my SV by at least 10 points.

[CenTexFan]

I feel that SV is the better team but I would never count SM out of any game. They are well coached and have a good defense. Where they give teams the most problems is the offense they run.. It is so hard to find the ball and since very few teams run this offense you are not familiar with it and it must be hard to practice for. Also I think SM had a week off to get healthy and add in some new wrinkles. If they can hang with SV they have a good chance to win, if the get behind SV will control the game.

I will be cheering for SM.

[RATTLERS316]

another thing too is that they are predicting rain saturday so that might work to our advantage considering our ground game even though we are playing on astro play turf...would be very interesting to see this

[clemensbuff]

If SM eliminates the mistakes they made against SC (TOs and special team mistakes) and can take an early lead, they will beat SV! Once SM has a lead, they can use that great ball control offense to it's full potential!

SM 28 - SV 24

GO 25-5A!

[t00 playa]

If SM eliminates the mistakes they made against SC (TOs and special team mistakes) and can take an early lead, they will beat SV! Once SM has a lead, they can use that great ball control offense to it's full potential!

SM 28 - SV 24

GO 25-5A!

I believe SV will take this game, San Marcos is good.. but i think SV is a lil more battle tested......

SV 28 SM 21

[Chedderz]

SM wont eliminate mistakes against SV. SV causes mistakes and excuses. SV will be playing in they're postseason home and will not lose. SV by at least 10.

[zippy]

SV has won some big games at Bobcat stadium...


i think this will be a very close game...both teams have excellent defenses and two different types of offense...whoever wins this game depends on how many mistakes they make...smithson valley is a very well coached and disciplined
team..ive always enjoyed going to see them play and we respect them very much, but we are not intimidated by them...but with san marcos getting them at home this year i think this is the year the rattlers finally crack one on them...san marcos 20, smithson valley 17...good luck to both teams and GO RATTLERS!!!! :)

[zippy]

It might hurt you to, there is a lot of ball exchange in the last formations that you guys played in. Are they still using the wing T? Options, mis-directions, etc.?


another thing too is that they are predicting rain saturday so that might work to our advantage considering our ground game even though we are playing on astro play turf...would be very interesting to see this

[GoRangers]

another thing too is that they are predicting rain saturday so that might work to our advantage considering our ground game even though we are playing on astro play turf...would be very interesting to see this


You're kidding me if anyone puts any faith in a 7-day weather forecast :confused:

SM still uses the slot-T (basically wing-t but with a wingback instead of full-T backfield). I suspect SM may get at least one big play on SV defense, but I would be very suprised if they have all-day success. SV defense has given up some big yards to rushing QBs, this year.

SV is undefeated against SM, going back to 4a when they were district rivals to when they met in 4a and 5a playoffs. Historically, the problem has been SM's inability to stop SV offense, and SV's superior special teams play. So, I think the key matchup will be how well SV offense performs. The execution has improved over the past couple weeks.

[zippy]

Hill is looking very good, not only passing, but also on the scramble. The big O, is working its way back into SV, which always happens right about this time of year. Should be a very good game. And yes, slot T. It gets confusing, most people dont know what a wingback is anymore. Good job on your part, you must be in at least your mid 20's or your dad played wingback.


You're kidding me if anyone puts any faith in a 7-day weather forecast :confused:

SM still uses the slot-T (basically wing-t but with a wingback instead of full-T backfield). I suspect SM may get at least one big play on SV defense, but I would be very suprised if they have all-day success. SV defense has given up some big yards to rushing QBs, this year.

SV is undefeated against SM, going back to 4a when they were district rivals to when they met in 4a and 5a playoffs. Historically, the problem has been SM's inability to stop SV offense, and SV's superior special teams play. So, I think the key matchup will be how well SV offense performs. The execution has improved over the past couple weeks.

[GoRangers]

Hill is looking very good, not only passing, but also on the scramble. The big O, is working its way back into SV, which always happens right about this time of year. Should be a very good game. And yes, slot T. It gets confusing, most people dont know what a wingback is anymore. Good job on your part, you must be in at least your mid 20's or your dad played wingback.

I've watched Blanco (2A) run the slot-T for years. It's very entertaining. As with all option/misdirection, usually comes down to stopping the fullback dive. SV has done a good job against rush-oriented teams. A lot of the defensive players that had to "cram" for the wishbone against Clear Lake last year are on this year's squad as well. Same discipline is required.

I'll just say that I'm older than mid-20s ;)

[zippy]

I figured you were, I call our "versitile" FB wingback in practice, and he looks at me like I am thinking he is another player. Then he is what in the hell is a wingback? :D These kids nowdays.. Anyway, this game should come down to the play of the linebackers. They are going to have to have a solid game to stop it. Volz has stepped up, and Kovar, well he's just Kovar! Both played against it in the past, and hopefully they can hold them again to less points than SV can put up. If SV ever gets a decent lead, it might be over. They can run the clock out with the 3-4 yard carries and not have to worry about the slot T as much. It should be a fun game to watch no matter what, and either way, SV has had another good year.


I've watched Blanco (2A) run the slot-T for years. It's very entertaining. As with all option/misdirection, usually comes down to stopping the fullback dive. SV has done a good job against rush-oriented teams. A lot of the defensive players that had to "cram" for the wishbone against Clear Lake last year are on this year's squad as well. Same discipline is required.

I'll just say that I'm older than mid-20s ;)

[Svbigman]

First Post ever!

Sucks i have just started due to computer problems for forever it seems like...well anywho i am taking my rangers by 14. They'll be ready for the game and i am positive coach hill can stop the san marcos scheme just like he has done in the past.

SV 28
SM 14

[Svbigman]

can someone give me some updates on the running back situation of SV. Rios gonna be ok. Schrock is back isn't he. Is Mckinney still providing the power? can someone just give me the 411 on this?

[sv ranger]

can someone give me some updates on the running back situation of SV. Rios gonna be ok. Schrock is back isn't he. Is Mckinney still providing the power? can someone just give me the 411 on this?
Schrock is back and Mckinney is still a power back and sean hall is also a great runner sv wins by 14 they have great reicieveres and backs plus a great d they should dominate

[singularity]

Schrock is back and Mckinney is still a power back and sean hall is also a great runner sv wins by 14 they have great reicieveres and backs plus a great d they should dominate
I'm glad Shrock is playing again. He will be useful. I'm going to say a repeat of last year.

[Svbigman]

i do like the blance they have at the backs. if u need short distance/goalline mckinney will provde the punch! rios, schrock and hall are all very capable of big plays!

[SVite]

You're kidding me if anyone puts any faith in a 7-day weather forecast :confused:

SM still uses the slot-T (basically wing-t but with a wingback instead of full-T backfield). I suspect SM may get at least one big play on SV defense, but I would be very suprised if they have all-day success. SV defense has given up some big yards to rushing QBs, this year.

SV is undefeated against SM, going back to 4a when they were district rivals to when they met in 4a and 5a playoffs. Historically, the problem has been SM's inability to stop SV offense, and SV's superior special teams play. So, I think the key matchup will be how well SV offense performs. The execution has improved over the past couple weeks.

Madison ran a split t type of offense,and had alot of misdirection.And had some success with it,for awile,till the adjustments at halftime .And,pretty much shut it down.San Marcos has run that for awile.it`s a little frustrating but we have stopped it the the past.SM got off a long run last year in it for a TD.They`ll prolly get another,but as long as we limit it,and the offense,pulls out the air show,to open up the run,there we go.

There will be 5 recievers to cover on almost every play,especially with Shrock back.

[03mustangwideout]

I used to live in SM and SV always killed us so i hope sm get over the hump and wins this one.

[OldSCfan]

Hey rattlerbacker, are the rattlers ready for SV? You had an extra week to prepare for them. I hope you have some surprises for them. Good luck on your game!!

[svrangerfan]

Hill is a good enough coach to figure things out by halftime. SM may have a good 1st quarter or even 1st half but the second will belong to SV IMHO. I will be at the game and am looking forward to it. 34 14 SV

[clemensbuff]

Hill is a good enough coach to figure things out by halftime. SM may have a good 1st quarter or even 1st half but the second will belong to SV IMHO. I will be at the game and am looking forward to it. 34 14 SV

Hill is a GREAT coach but if he doesn't make the adjustments before the half and SM gets out to a decent lead, SV will be in trouble! As for a 20 point win for SV, they will have to play their best game of the year to do that! I beleive it will be much closer playing at Bobcat Stadium and SM has 12,000 fans to feed off of. The only way that SV wins by 20 is if they jump on SM right off the bat and take their fans out of the game.

[rattlerbacker]

OldSCfan, they are always ready for a game with the Rangers, how could they not be? We've had some really fantastic playoff games and although the Rangers have scoreboard the Rattlers have given them some of their best competition on their trips to the state finals.

These teams know each other well enough that I doubt there are any really big surprises for either team to pull on the other, although I'm sure both sides have some plays in their back pockets they may not have used so far.

I expect another great game this year. The Rattlers were a really young team last year and the year of experience has made a big difference, IMO. We've never had the pleasure of hosting the Rangers in the playoffs before and I think our crowd can also make a big difference. The only other time we've been the home team against them in the playoffs was in 2000, probably the best game in the series. SV won that one by 8 points. Hopefully home field is worth 9 points this year!

Good luck to the Buffs and the Mats. I remember all the grief the 25 got on here 2 years ago about the weak district, etc. Its like deja vu this year, except Clemens was on the other side that year. :D Here's to a similar, or better, result this year!

[DiamondJ2]

SV fans, look at the impressive number that SM has. Tops in the area in rushing which usually gives SV trouble and SM's defense is pretty stout, especially the rushing defense. Unless, SV comes up with a solution to stop the unusual (today) offense, it could be a long trip back to Ranger land.

[GoRangers]

SV fans, look at the impressive number that SM has. Tops in the area in rushing which usually gives SV trouble and SM's defense is pretty stout, especially the rushing defense. Unless, SV comes up with a solution to stop the unusual (today) offense, it could be a long trip back to Ranger land.

SM has much the same identity as Clemens: overwhelmingly rush-oriented with solid defense. SV's advantage is they have a balanced offense. SV can air it out if the rushing game boggs down.

SM is a good solid program, with much success 4A and 5A over the past 6 years. Nothing is a given, but SV has had their number.

[clemensbuff]

SM has much the same identity as Clemens: overwhelmingly rush-oriented with solid defense. SV's advantage is they have a balanced offense. SV can air it out if the rushing game boggs down.

SM is a good solid program, with much success 4A and 5A over the past 6 years. Nothing is a given, but SV has had their number.

You're exactly right on the offenses! I know for a fact that SC has the potential right now to open it up, whether we see it in the playoffs or not, who knows!

SV / SM game should be a really fantastic game! It's high time for SM to get SV's #! This will not be an easy thing to do, but SM can do it this year.

GO RATTLERS!

[singularity]

Hill is a good enough coach to figure things out by halftime. SM may have a good 1st quarter or even 1st half but the second will belong to SV IMHO. I will be at the game and am looking forward to it. 34 14 SV
I agree. Hill always finds a way to win a game. It comes down to the players execution in the end with SV. Look at the past 4 years. The only playoff game, excluding the state finals, was lost due to player errors, not coaching.

[PaulinPlano]

I think SV will win, BUT San Marcos could produce a win at home.

[clemensbuff]

I think SV will win, BUT San Marcos could produce a win at home.

I think that you are not wanting to make a pick on this one! LOL I'll take my 25-5a brothers! :)

SM 28 SV 24

[TexasRed6x]

Plain and simple look the vote and that should tell you who is going to win. SV has the better players and coach thats enough for them to win big.

[clemensbuff]

Plain and simple look the vote and that should tell you who is going to win. SV has the better players and coach thats enough for them to win big.

Better players than who? Better coaching, I would not even attempt to question that, it has been and is obvious that they have a top notched staff at SV.

[Oskie07]

I would expect this game to be closer than many might think, but in the end you can't count out the Rangers. If San Marcos is going to win the game they will have to take it from Smithson Valley and thats tough to do. I would expect a tight game, but a Ranger win nonetheless. 21 - 13 Smithson Valley.

[clemensbuff]

I would expect this game to be closer than many might think, but in the end you can't count out the Rangers. If San Marcos is going to win the game they will have to take it from Smithson Valley and thats tough to do. I would expect a tight game, but a Ranger win nonetheless. 21 - 13 Smithson Valley.

You're right about SM having to go out and take it from them. But, I'm sticking with my 25 boys 28-24!

[GoRangers]

You're right about SM having to go out and take it from them. But, I'm sticking with my 25 boys 28-24!

It would be extremely suprising for SM to hang 28 points on the Rangers' defense. I doubt anyone has done that in a very long time. I think 2002 loss to SLC might have been the last.

[GoRangers]

Smithson Valley.

The name alone makes most San Marcos High School football fans cringe.

http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/articles/2005/11/10/sports/sports1.txt

[SVite]

[QUOTE=GoRangers]Smithson Valley.

The name alone makes most San Marcos High School football fans cringe.

http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/articles/2005/11/10/sports/sports1.txt[/QUOT


Nice!Is Trent out for the Season?I like the spin how they wrote about the filling the tailback spot. They Forgot to mention that Schrock was the starter before he got hurt.And McKinney,and Schrock,have deep playoff experience.Many touchdowns between both in last years run to the final,and in the final.

[PaulinPlano]

I think that you are not wanting to make a pick on this one! LOL I'll take my 25-5a brothers! :)

SM 28 SV 24

I made the pick. But I am rooting against my pick.

[biggest buff fan]

[QUOTE=GoRangers]Smithson Valley.

The name alone makes most San Marcos High School football fans cringe.

http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/articles/2005/11/10/sports/sports1.txt[/QUOT


Nice!Is Trent out for the Season?I like the spin how they wrote about the filling the tailback spot. They Forgot to mention that Schrock was the starter before he got hurt.And McKinney,and Schrock,have deep playoff experience.Many touchdowns between both in last years run to the final,and in the final.

Keep in mind this is the team that took out #1 player in the city.....They are very strong and you just never know just who might get that same tackle on the SV side. SV had better keep thier fingers crossed that thier main man does not get hit with the same tackle that James got during our game. Watch out SV as SM has your # and they are very very strong!!!

[GoRangers]

[QUOTE=SVite]

Keep in mind this is the team that took out #1 player in the city.....They are very strong and you just never know just who might get that same tackle on the SV side. SV had better keep thier fingers crossed that thier main man does not get hit with the same tackle that James got during our game. Watch out SV as SM has your # and they are very very strong!!!

The overwhelming majority of injuries are freak accidents on the field. Injuries are not an indication of team strength.

Read Post#45 from SVite about the SVs tailbacks and their experience.

[clemensbuff]

It would be extremely suprising for SM to hang 28 points on the Rangers' defense. I doubt anyone has done that in a very long time. I think 2002 loss to SLC might have been the last.

I do agree that it will be very hard for anyone to put up 28 on SV's D. But, SM had 21 last year against SV and their offense his way better than last year! So, unless SV's defense is improved from last year, it is possible! :)