The numbers behind SLC vs I-Mac

[Phoenixrising05]

A purely objective statistics based analysis because I'm just that bored:

Southlake Carroll (10-0) vs Irving MacArthur (9-1)

Avg Offensive Yards (per game)
SLC I-Mac
Rush 208.7 106.7
Pass 316.5 180.5
Total 525.2 287.2

Avg Defensive Yards (per game)
Rush 90.7 169.3
Pass 159.8 144.1
Total 250.5 313.4

Avg Points (per game)
PF 50.2 25.3
PA 14.5 17.3
Margin 35.7 8

However I think the most glaring statistic is:
SLC Opponent record 47-53 (47% winning)
I-Mac Opponent record 64-36 (64% winning)

The only common opponent:
SLC 56 Coppell 24 margin 32
I-Mac 24 Coppell 17 margin 7

Although Coppell was arguably a very different team in week 1 (SLC) vs week 4 (I-Mac) so was SLC. It also took I-Mac 14 unanswered points in the 4th to pull out their 24-17 victory.

On PAPER it looks to be another Dragon blowout be we've all seen I-Mac mysteriously pull out the win in the final quarter. On PAPER they also should have lost by 21+ to South Grand Prairie.

Regardless I think the bottom-line is that you have a mediocre spread-offense vs. a nearly perfected spread offense. Their lack-luster offensive performance and inablity to sustain long drives will give SLC's "O" many chances to score and the numbers will atlast catch up to 'em:

Southlake Carroll 45 Irving MacArthur 17

[toonman]

A purely objective statistics based analysis because I'm just that bored:

Southlake Carroll (10-0) vs Irving MacArthur (9-1)

Avg Offensive Yards (per game)
SLC I-Mac
Rush 208.7 106.7
Pass 316.5 180.5
Total 525.2 287.2

Avg Defensive Yards (per game)
Rush 90.7 169.3
Pass 159.8 144.1
Total 250.5 313.4

Avg Points (per game)
PF 50.2 25.3
PA 14.5 17.3
Margin 35.7 8

However I think the most glaring statistic is:
SLC Opponent record 47-53 (47% winning)
I-Mac Opponent record 64-36 (64% winning)

The only common opponent:
SLC 56 Coppell 24 margin 32
I-Mac 24 Coppell 17 margin 7

Although Coppell was arguably a very different team in week 1 (SLC) vs week 4 (I-Mac) so was SLC. It also took I-Mac 14 unanswered points in the 4th to pull out their 24-17 victory.

On PAPER it looks to be another Dragon blowout be we've all seen I-Mac mysteriously pull out the win in the final quarter. On PAPER they also should have lost by 21+ to South Grand Prairie.

Regardless I think the bottom-line is that you have a mediocre spread-offense vs. a nearly perfected spread offense. Their lack-luster offensive performance and inablity to sustain long drives will give SLC's "O" many chances to score and the numbers will atlast catch up to 'em:

Southlake Carroll 45 Irving MacArthur 17

Thank you for the stats. I cannot disagree with your analysis.

[Phoenixrising05]

Also "borrowing" Lonnys "tier-system" this is how I breakdown each division:

DIVISION I
Tier 1
Euless Trinity, GP North Shore, Spring Westfield

Tier 2
Plano East, Austin Westlake

Tier 3
Pearland, Houston Lamar, Richardson Berkner, The Woodlands, Converse Judson

DIVISION II
Tier 1
Lufkin, Longview, Southlake Carroll, Katy, Abilene, Smithson Valley

Tier 2
Schertz Clemens, Plano, South Grand Prairie, Irving MacArthur

Tier 3
CC Carroll, Copperas Cove, Dallas Carter, FB Marshall, Strake Jesuit, Denton Ryan, Hays Consolidated, Midland

Those unlisted = Tier 4 and down

Let the bashing begin :D

[SLC13]

Also "borrowing" Lonnys "tier-system" this is how I breakdown each division:

DIVISION I
Tier 1
Euless Trinity, GP North Shore, Spring Westfield

Tier 2
Plano East, Austin Westlake

Tier 3
Pearland, Houston Lamar, Richardson Berkner, The Woodlands, Converse Judson

DIVISION II
Tier 1
Lufkin, Longview, Southlake Carroll, Katy, Abilene, Smithson Valley

Tier 2
Schertz Clemens, Plano, South Grand Prairie, Irving MacArthur

Tier 3
CC Carroll, Copperas Cove, Dallas Carter, FB Marshall, Strake Jesuit, Denton Ryan, Hays Consolidated, Midland

Those unlisted = Tier 4 and down

Let the bashing begin :D
In Div 1, I think you have PESH rated way too high, they s/b tier 3 or more likely tier 4.

In D2, I think you're vastly underestimating Cop. Cove and Carter. I certainly wouldn't rank either a notch below SGP and IMac. Also I think Garland is at least at Tier 3, maybe even Tier 2......Just my opinion. :)

[DodgeCitySlicker]

It's too bad IMac has drawn SC in the first round.
I remember last years heartbreaker to Ryan. That was one of the best games of the playoffs.
IMac showed a ton of heart and soul and I sure their the same type of team this year.
It's a shame that they have to face the Dragons in the first round as I would have loved to see them go a little deeper into the playoffs.

[Phoenixrising05]

You may be right about PESH and Garland...the latter should have been in at least Tier 3. However I stand by having Cove and Carter in the lower Tier. In the last 3-5 years Carter has got to be the #1 "pretender" in HS football. They consistently annihilate the Dallas-city schools, become overranked, and then get knocked off in round 1/2 of the playoffs. And after seeing Cove go down to the wire week after week against sub-par opponents I don't see them getting far either. Their two "best" wins were over 4a schools.

[CCBoy]

In Div 1, I think you have PESH rated way too high, they s/b tier 3 or more likely tier 4.

In D2, I think you're vastly underestimating Cop. Cove and Carter. I certainly wouldn't rank either a notch below SGP and IMac. Also I think Garland is at least at Tier 3, maybe even Tier 2......Just my opinion. :)
I'm glad someone else noticed that crap. I really don't have to comment on that tier system.

[SLC13]

You may be right about PESH and Garland...the latter should have been in at least Tier 3. However I stand by having Cove and Carter in the lower Tier. In the last 3-5 years Carter has got to be the #1 "pretender" in HS football. They consistently annihilate the Dallas-city schools, become overranked, and then get knocked off in round 1/2 of the playoffs. And after seeing Cove go down to the wire week after week against sub-par opponents I don't see them getting far either. Their two "best" wins were over 4a schools.
I have a feeling that Carter might be different this year. Their coach seems to have figured out that being able to pass isn't a bad thing and they appear to have a QB with some passing skills.

D2, Reg 2 is such a gauntlet for any team to emerge from that Carter still might not go that deep, but they don't look to be totally one dimensional this year. I guess time will tell on them.

[ALLIN]

You "most telling numbers" regarding the records of their opponents may be a little skewed due to the fact that they have two 9-1 teams in their district, kinda rare. By the way, they lost to one and scored 3 points against the other. Take those 2 teams out and SLC top 2 teams (best records) and compare the remaining 6 or 7 teams they have played. May be a little better
stat. Just my opinion, I am sure I mac will be a great opponent, but will fall like the rest.

[bhs06_2]

Just because IMac won every game by a touchdown or less this season doesn't mean they aren't any good. They have probably more playmakers and talent then any other team in the Division 2 bracket spare South Grand Prairie. Although I don't think they will beat SLC they will surprise most and make a game out of it. Also this MacArthur team was the team we played this season with the most class they were all a bunch of good and well behaved people with respect.

[ALLIN]

I think it will be a great game for the first quarter or so, and then SLC will pull away and wrap it up. They should anyway. I have been wrong before, though! Any team that is 9 and 1 in that district better be respected.

[bhs06_2]

Its also safe to say that this is by far the best team the Dragons have faced so far this year.

[toonman]

Its also safe to say that this is by far the best team the Dragons have faced so far this year.

On paper only - we will see once the games are played

[Favpack]

The real problem here is - the SLC stats would reflect a similar score for every game they play - except maybe Longview. I think the stats mean very little. The stats from the D2 final last year would have SLC beating SV like 51-7, which, of course, didn't happen.

[drgnbkr]

Its also safe to say that this is by far the best team the Dragons have faced so far this year.

By far? no..good team?...Yes...

[Fan4Life]

Stats don't mean nothing!.........I mean its just who shows up to play...

[dragonfootballfan]

Its also safe to say that this is by far the best team the Dragons have faced so far this year.
why? is it because they are in your district?

[Arazorback]

You "most telling numbers" regarding the records of their opponents may be a little skewed due to the fact that they have two 9-1 teams in their district, kinda rare. By the way, they lost to one and scored 3 points against the other. Take those 2 teams out and SLC top 2 teams (best records) and compare the remaining 6 or 7 teams they have played. May be a little better
stat. Just my opinion, I am sure I mac will be a great opponent, but will fall like the rest.

So that the stats are in favor of Carrol?
Why would you do that?
that makes absolutely NO sense
IMAC has played two 9-1 teams and an 8-2 team and they only have one loss. In my opinion that means they have played AND BEATEN some quality teams.

SLC has also played some good teams, but the harder schedule has definately been IMAC's.

[dragonsdaddy]

having played sgp and et by itself puts the imac schedule up near the top. the rest of the district was no great shakes.

[ALLIN]

So they are in favor of Carroll???? Can you read? I think they are in favor of SL. I just want them to be accurate. Don't get mad beacuse they were not in IMAC's favor. They have played 2 great teams and lost one and scored 3 points in the other. Enough said.

[Arazorback]

So they are in favor of Carroll???? Can you read? I think they are in favor of SL. I just want them to be accurate. Don't get mad beacuse they were not in IMAC's favor. They have played 2 great teams and lost one and scored 3 points in the other. Enough said.

The opponent winning percentage is in favor of Mac...see...they played a lot of good teams. To take teams out of the equation would not make sense...they won the game they scored three points in. I'm sure you were aware of that. Using rhetoric like that is pretty unneccesary.

[StormingCowboy]

I have a feeling that Carter might be different this year. Their coach seems to have figured out that being able to pass isn't a bad thing and they appear to have a QB with some passing skills.

D2, Reg 2 is such a gauntlet for any team to emerge from that Carter still might not go that deep, but they don't look to be totally one dimensional this year. I guess time will tell on them.


I have the same feeling, but I'm a homer!