Klein Forest

[TheDawghouse]

Hey anybody know much about Klein Forest? Weaknesses, Strengths, tendencies, etc? Are they a good team or product of a weak Houston district?

[LPMOM]

weak houston district? you got things turned around cove is a product of a weak district! cove might get past klien forest but they won't make it very far into the playoffs. klien is in a more competitive district. cove took 3 O.T's to beat waco, they only beat consol by 1 TD, and the list goes on.

[PurpleNation]

Klien Forest plays undicsiplined football. They have Tremendouse Athletes. Average QB and RB. They will try to intimidate you by taking cheap shots and talking lots of crap. Overall thy are a decent football team that can be dagerousewhen you let them. I wouldnt be suprissed if they beat Cove.

[CCDawgs05]

weak houston district? you got things turned around cove is a product of a weak district! cove might get past klien forest but they won't make it very far into the playoffs. klien is in a more competitive district. cove took 3 O.T's to beat waco, they only beat consol by 1 TD, and the list goes on.

well the reason our we probably won by those margins is cause of our districts.....dont use they two statements together....

[TheDawghouse]

Ok don't get your panties in a knot. I didn't say they DID have a weak district, I was ASKING if they WERE product of a weak district. Geez. But anyway, from what I could see, their QB looks like hes a load, he can really throw the ball a good way, and number 10 their running back is one fast little guy. The O-Line looks pretty bad however, so their skill positions must make up for it.

[fbjones]

Hey Cove,
When is the last time you won state? Yeah that's what I thought.
State Champions from the "weak" Houston area in the past three years... Katy,
Northshore,
and state finalist Westfield that will probably win state this year.
Also a few years ago there was Madison with Vince Young that beat Katy and Northshore. Does that seem weak to you?

[TheDawghouse]

How many times do I have to say I wasn't claiming it was a weak district! Get a grip. I was asking if it WAS a weak district. We, on the other hand, did have a semi weak district this year compared to other years. Calm down on defending your Houston team, as I never said they were weak. I know for a fact they have strong teams year after year.

[LPMOM]

Klien Forest plays undicsiplined football. They have Tremendouse Athletes. Average QB and RB. They will try to intimidate you by taking cheap shots and talking lots of crap. Overall thy are a decent football team that can be dagerousewhen you let them. I wouldnt be suprissed if they beat Cove.

note to cove players and fans,
ya'll play with class and i just want ya'll to be able to do that when you meet klien forest. what ever they do or say please remain the class act that ya'll are! this is a team that kicked one of our (lufkin) players in the head when he was down and when he got ejected from the game, the coaches patted him on the back. there were several other things that were done and said by both the players and fans. while i don't really like cove, i do respect them as playing with some level of class. don't sink to klien forest's level if they are still behaving like they did then.

[TheDawghouse]

If theres one thing we take pride in, its playing with class, while at the same time playing a good, hard, 4 quarters of football. We don't resort to dirty crap like a lot of other teams do, and im sure we'll run into our fair share of it a little later in the playoffs.

[pack0808]

KF has very good atheltes but play with a lack of discipline in all aspects of the game. If you get them down they are dead and the cheap shot's will begin if they know the game is over. They have a ton of potential and this is coming from a Lufkin fan that knows talent.

[PantherStang84]

KF has very good atheltes but play with a lack of discipline in all aspects of the game.

Ditto what Pack said. Any KF opponent in the playoffs would do well to watch themselves. KF will try to bait you to stoop to their level.

[Hartless]

Why? Why are we so worried about how KF plays? Again, nobody from KF said anything on here and we are again bashing another program. I am more concerned that the Klein Collins trainer accused one of our players of jabbing his finger in his eye and scratching one of the KC players' cornea. Let's make sure we keep track of our own kids and be sure that they act like the LP teams of the past and quit worrying about KF. We killed them! Get over it!

[PantherStang84]

We killed them! Get over it!

Obviously you didn't read the whole thread and how it started. KFs scheduled playoff opponent asked about them . Just merely passing along information. Since your a noob, I'll cut you some slack and encourage you to read entire threads before crticizing others. As for your unfounded accusation about Lufkin. I would encourage you to have KC file a formal complaint with the district commitee since you seem to be in tight with the KC staff. Tell them to do something about it or shut up and enjoy roundball!

[Ailani]

I read this game was at San Marcos but not sure if it was Friday or Saturday night. Any word?

[pack0808]

Why? Why are we so worried about how KF plays? Again, nobody from KF said anything on here and we are again bashing another program. I am more concerned that the Klein Collins trainer accused one of our players of jabbing his finger in his eye and scratching one of the KC players' cornea. Let's make sure we keep track of our own kids and be sure that they act like the LP teams of the past and quit worrying about KF. We killed them! Get over it!


Read the post and before you spit green baby crap out of your mouth houston boy. Why do some of you Houston fan's claim to be Lufkin fan's?? I guess i cannot blame you?? If you cannot beat them join them!! LMAO

[CCDawgs05]

Hey Cove,
When is the last time you won state? Yeah that's what I thought.
State Champions from the "weak" Houston area in the past three years... Katy,
Northshore,
and state finalist Westfield that will probably win state this year.
Also a few years ago there was Madison with Vince Young that beat Katy and Northshore. Does that seem weak to you?


Ok and is klein coming out of these districts? NO, but they do have Lufkin and the Woodlands, noone ever said they play in a weak district

[forest99]

Klein Forest is a VERY athletic football team, but as somebody said earlier they can play undisciplined at times. they RB, #10, is very explosive, he averaged i believer over 8 yrds a carry with alot of td's. their qb is only a soph, so at times he looks great and at other times he looks like a soph. the defense is usually right on the money, very good lb's, secondary can be beat tho against good wr's. usually play a cover 3 and can play 4-3 and 3-4 looks.

[FootballJunkie]

Enjoy one more week before your season ends!!!http://covedawgs.k2fanclub.com/media/cove/IMG_28491.JPG

[PackAttack2005]

I would love a chance to play Copperas Cove later this year, hope it happens.

[trooper82d]

I would love a chance to play Copperas Cove later this year, hope it happens.
I hear some talk about how KF plays dirty football. I would only hope its cheap talk. It's hard to believe that any coaching staff would teach or let there plays conduct themselves in such a matter. The DAWGS are NO punks and will handle their own when it comes to protecting themselves. Jack Welch does'nt teach how to cheap shot other players. We from the COVE can handle ourselves. Remember most of us are military, prior military or retired so our sons and daughters are classy young adults and will not take any BS from anybody. So if KF wants to act silly don't mess with the COVE!!! Let's just play clean football and have some fun

[stangsfan]

I hear some talk about how KF plays dirty football. I would only hope its cheap talk. It's hard to believe that any coaching staff would teach or let there plays conduct themselves in such a matter. The DAWGS are NO punks and will handle their own when it comes to protecting themselves. Jack Welch does'nt teach how to cheap shot other players. We from the COVE can handle ourselves. Remember most of us are military, prior military or retired so our sons and daughters are classy young adults and will not take any BS from anybody. So if KF wants to act silly don't mess with the COVE!!! Let's just play clean football and have some fun

Westfield use to be in the district with Forest and they played dirty then as well. It must be taught by the coaches since it goes on year after year.

[TheDawghouse]

I don't understand how coaches could put up with or encourage that kind of play, but it all comes back to haunt teams eventually when they can't play disciplined football. Classy, blue collar, hardworking teams usually find ways to come out on top of more talented, undisciplined teams.

[forest99]

I hear some talk about how KF plays dirty football. I would only hope its cheap talk. It's hard to believe that any coaching staff would teach or let there plays conduct themselves in such a matter. The DAWGS are NO punks and will handle their own when it comes to protecting themselves. Jack Welch does'nt teach how to cheap shot other players. We from the COVE can handle ourselves. Remember most of us are military, prior military or retired so our sons and daughters are classy young adults and will not take any BS from anybody. So if KF wants to act silly don't mess with the COVE!!! Let's just play clean football and have some fun

that is ridiculous, if you do not know something for a fact, please do NOT put it on the internet. I played for KF,the head coach was then the offensive line coach, and i coach for a team in the same district. KF does NOT play dirty and i know for a fact their coaches do not promote that kind of play. they are a good football team and so is cove, should be a great game. now lets talk some football!!!!

[CCDawgs05]

okay....football talk.....cove wins big by 4 quarters of fball.....38-14

[TheDawghouse]

I agree with that prediction.

[PantherStang84]

if you do not know something for a fact

Sorry, but it is a fact. How many "disciplined" teams have two players ejected in one ball game?

[country OUTlaw]

Let's go back to the P.A.M. vs Lufkin game....great display of "discipline"

[forest99]

Sorry, but it is a fact. How many "disciplined" teams have two players ejected in one ball game?

Just because players get ejected from games doesnt mean they play dirty. I happen to know what happened and that was not the reason. so yes, like i said earlier, if you dont know for a fact, then do NOT put it out onto the internet. Please stop trying to derail this conversation from actual football by making up things that you do not even fully understand. thank you.

[pack0808]

You will see for yourself cove fan's. Do not take our word for it!! Especially if you put the game away!! It will be on!! They are sad when they are down and when they play Lufkin they are always way down. LOL

[protect_this_house]

First of all KF has not had two players ejected all year, much less two in one game. I'm not sure where that internet B.S. popped up at.

Second, for the people that have actually seen KF play & all they can think about is dirty play, then here is what you missed:

A soph. QB that is the second leading passer in the district with over a 1000 passing yards and 20+ touchdowns.

A RB that was the district 100 meter champ and is averaging 8.4 yards per rush with 11 TDs.


A 6'3" WR with 7 TDs, and a 6'5 WR/TE, both of which can create matchup problems for defenses.

A defense that has speed at every position, although they lost some very key players in the final game of the season. A defense that held all world RB Michael Goodson to 24 yards and all world WR Dez Bryant to 4 catches for 39 yards.

CC is undoubtedly a very good team as their district record & ranking suggests. They play a very simple offensive scheme, but they play it very well relying on big play scores with runs from their very speedy and very talented QB, and their very fast RB. I have seen CC & they have NO ONE with the individual talents of Micheal Goodson, or Dez Bryant. They do play well as a team, have good team speed at the skill positions and are very deserving of the press and hype that they have received. KF's experience playing The Woodlands & Lufkin should provide a great advantage to them going against Cove. I've seen Waco, I've seen AMC, I've seen Bryan, I've seen Harker Heights & NONE of them are in TWHS or Lufkins league. If BOTH teams bring their A game it should be a GREAT game to watch!

Some of you (and you know which ones you are) need to stop using internet websites to bash high school kids. Especially when what you are saying is false. Good luck to both teams, and good luck to all of the district 14-5A teams.

I really don't think AMC or H.H. know what they are in for either!!! The WHS vs AMC game should be pretty good. H.H. better hope they can stay within 30 of Lufkin.

[LPMOM]

i would never tell you that klien forest plays dirty if they didn't. the poster from conroe is just upset because he got beat at 2 different schools by lufkin.
i wasn't trying to start any mess i just know that cove plays with class and i wanted to give them a heads up. you don't have to like a team to recognize this.

[pack0808]

i would never tell you that klien forest plays dirty if they didn't. the poster from conroe is just upset because he got beat at 2 different schools by lufkin.
i wasn't trying to start any mess i just know that cove plays with class and i wanted to give them a heads up. you don't have to like a team to recognize this.


I agree LPmom i know what i saw!! Either way i could care less who agree's with me. :rolleyes: I do no speak my mind to agree with everybody!! That is obvious huh?? Like i am on here to trash hs kids give me a break protect this mouse. I am sorry i report the fact's that i personally witnessed!! Either way KF always leaves with a double digit loss when playing Lufkin like most teams. Why would i bother trashing them if my team beats them so easily each time?? Makes no sense?? Just reporting the facts that i saw with my own eyes in all 3 games Lufkin has played KF. Maybe they just act like that with Lufkin i do not know?? Either way KF is a very talented squad athletically capable of beating most teams if they play with discipline. They have plenty of athletes so do not expect an easy win cove!!

[protect_this_house]

You will see for yourself cove fan's. Do not take our word for it!! Especially if you put the game away!! It will be on!! They are sad when they are down and when they play Lufkin they are always way down. LOL

Obviously you did not see KF versus Klein. KF came from behind to win that game in double OT. Not a single kid acted like you are mentioning.

I have a very mature and honest question for you. Why do you feel it neccessary to bash KF? Is the fact that Lufkin has beaten them two years in a row not enough, or do you have some kind of pent up hatred about KF that causes you to CONTINUALLY bash them? The KF supporters that post on here have not continually bashed Lufkin. Yes, there were some heated exchanges during game week, but every KF fan to a man gave Lufkin their props about winning the game. Since then Lufkin fans have kept on talking bad about KF's kids. KIDS. Why do adults find humor in talking bad about high school kids? You talk so negatively about the actions of high school kids during a contest as emotional as football, yet you excuse your own actions as an adult of constantly bashing them. I don't get it.

[protect_this_house]

Something else to keep in mind when commenting on dirty play or cheap tactics by a team: "Fans, like officials, usually only see the second guys reaction to what has been done to him."

[pack0808]

Obviously you did not see KF versus Klein. KF came from behind to win that game in double OT. Not a single kid acted like you are mentioning.

I have a very mature and honest question for you. Why do you feel it neccessary to bash KF? Is the fact that Lufkin has beaten them two years in a row not enough, or do you have some kind of pent up hatred about KF that causes you to CONTINUALLY bash them? The KF supporters that post on here have not continually bashed Lufkin. Yes, there were some heated exchanges during game week, but every KF fan to a man gave Lufkin their props about winning the game. Since then Lufkin fans have kept on talking bad about KF's kids. KIDS. Why do adults find humor in talking bad about high school kids? You talk so negatively about the actions of high school kids during a contest as emotional as football, yet you excuse your own actions as an adult of constantly bashing them. I don't get it.


See above toolboy!! I do not trash any team for playing dirty besides the one that i personally witnessed. I have never said a team has played dirty in my 4 years of being on this site beside KF. They are without a doubt the most dirty team i have ever seen. Maybe it is just a Lufkin thing or when they are losing i do not know?? I did not say it happens vs everybody else tard!! I just saw what i saw in every game Lufkin has played KF in, 2002, 2004, and 2005

[protect_this_house]

See above toolboy!! I do not trash any team for playing dirty besides the one that i personally witnessed. I have never said a team has played dirty in my 4 years of being on this site beside KF. They are without a doubt the most dirty team i have ever seen. Maybe it is just a Lufkin thing or when they are losing i do not know?? I did not say it happens vs everybody else tard!! I just saw what i saw in every game Lufkin has played KF in, 2002, 2004, and 2005


See, this is what I mean. I ask you a question and you respond by name calling. Toolboy? Tard? You are sad.

"IF" KF is SOOO dirty, then why have they only had one player ejected all season while your CLEAN PLAYING LUFKIN PANTHERS had TWO players ejected in ONE GAME vs PAM? I'm sure you will go on to say how it wasn't their fault, or they were young & inexperienced, or they were baited into being ejected. WHATEVER.

I'll say it again: "Fans, like officials, usually only see the second guys reaction to what has been done to him."

[pack0808]

See, this is what I mean. I ask you a question and you respond by name calling. Toolboy?

"IF" KF is SOOO dirty, then why have they only had one player ejected all season while your CLEAN PLAYING LUFKIN PANTHERS had TWO players ejected in ONE GAME vs PAM? I'm sure you will go on to say how it wasn't their fault, or they were young & inexperienced, or they were baited into being ejected. WHATEVER.

I'll say it again: "Fans, like officials, usually only see the second guys reaction to what has been done to him."


Yawn, I have watched the Lufkin team play forever and the 2 games this year was the first time i have ever seen a Lufkin player get kicked out of a game in a very very long time. Very rare and yes the PA officials had a very quick trigger over nothing. Lufkin has done their share of taunting and personal fouls through the years i am not saying that?? But it is rare!! Not claiming they are perfect!! I just know what i have seen when Lufkin plays KF. Maybe KF just hates Lufkin that much and when they know they are beat they lose it?? Maybe it does represent them overall i do not know?? I just know what i have seen when Lufkin has played them 3 times in 4 years. Outlaw said the exact same thing and i have never heard him talk bad about another team like that in the 10 years he has been here. There is something to it!

[protect_this_house]

I'm shocked that the Great John Outlaw would stoop to talking negatively about a team now since he hasn't in 10 years. That one player that was ejected for KF must have really left a bad taste in him mouth if that was enough to get him riled up after 10 years of living in Lufkin, TX.

You are right Pack0808, KF's kids must be possesed by the devil to be that evil. Cove, bring a priest and a bible...

[pack0808]

I'm shocked that the Great John Outlaw would stoop to talking negatively about a team now since he hasn't in 10 years. That one player that was ejected for KF must have really left a bad taste in him mouth if that was enough to get him riled up after 10 years of living in Lufkin, TX.

You are right Pack0808, KF's kids must be possesed by the devil to be that evil. Cove, bring a priest and a bible...



Again yawwwwn!! 0-3 vs Lufkin move on to Cove and let them be the judge. KF could have had 8 players ejected if they wanted to be a hard *** but they did not. Move on Lufkin owns you and they make yall like it. LOL 18-0 vs Houston area team's since 2000 and that is including teams like Ike,Westfield, and Katy!! But cove if you get them down get ready because the cheap shot's will start just like almost every other team has played them has said. Including the Spring Westfield fan!! I am sure they are nice when they are winning but Lufkin would not ever know what that is like so maybe we should be quiet. LOL KF has never even made it to the regional finals so i guess their fan's are desperate for attention. LOL

[PantherStang84]

I just know what i have seen when Lufkin has played them 3 times in 4 years.

Pack vocalizes this issue better than I ever could. I like him just know what I have seen with my own eyes. I submit as further evidence about Lufkin's play on the field. Ask a fan of any opponent Lufkin has played on a regular basis over the last 5-6 years. SLC, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, THWS, Nacogdoches, Marshall, yes even Longview. Ask them about how Lufkin conducts themselves. Then come back and tell me Lufkin is a dirty team. Now go ask teams who have played KF. Go ahead. I'll wait.

[Covedawg]

wow, all I can say is there is no apparent love lost between Lufkin and Klien Forest....your district games must be great...I can just see the fans yelling a each other at the top of their lungs


I don't know much if anything about KF, all I can say is that this Cove team is the most focused of any Cove team I've ever seen. They have won every way possible this season, Shut out, blow out, close games, OT game, several 4th qtr comebacks...these kids just don't quit and play hard every snap. Klien had better be ready for a full 48 minutes. Cove is a total team effort with Brent Garner leading the ship, Cove has had 10 different players score TD's. What ever KF wants the bring Cove will be ready, shootout, smash mouth, you call it these boys will play it. Klien Forest is the ONLY focus now...there is no looking at next week around here

[protect_this_house]

Finally, a good post about what should be a VERY good game.

Covedawg, you guys do have a very good team. Your QB & RB are very impressive players. Your o-line is a little small, but those guys REALLY get after it and play well together. CC's defense is impressive too.

Playing in all the different types of games that you mentioned will no doubt give you guys a big boost. Other than somehow losing to The Woodlands after statistically dominating them, losing to Lufkin at Martin stadium, and winning a double O.T. game versus their biggest district rival, the other 7 games that KF has played haven't been very close with KF's back ups usually finishing out the game.

Either way, it should be an excellent game!

[Favpack]

After their solid run last year, I think CCove should win this one handily. The KF qb has come along way - but he is still a soph. - came out very timid against Lufkin and it was 14 zip before he blinked. If CCove lets him roam a bit - he could get comfortable sooner and the game could be on.

KF definitely has some talent on both sides, but I was much more impressed with the The Woodz two back system than I was with KF's tailback.

If KF makes some plays and CCove comes out flat - game could be close - but I don't think either happens. CCove should win by 14, maybe more.

Best to both teams - be safe.

[forest99]

OK, lufkin does NOT play dirty, and KF does NOT play dirty, and i can only assume cove doesnt either, so stop the talk. unless you are on the field when it happened, no offense lpmom, but moms in the stands dont really know whats going on during the game, and to the other lufkin fan, im sorry you graduated a few years ago and the coach only let you sit the bench, now lets just talk some football!!! cove has an undefeated team, kf has a team that only lost to undefeated lufkin and a very stout woodlands team. should be a very fun game. and as far as the lufkin vs hh....umm..good luck!!

[PackAttack2005]

Who did Klein Forest lose to injury last week? Any key players?

I have nothing against Klein Forest, Lufkin did what they needed to do and that was win, case closed, it is all in the past. Bad attitudes aside, Klein Forest does have talent and should not be overlooked. I have witnessed them play three times now, most of their players donot have bad attitudes but there always seems to be the 5 or 6 that try to stir things up. I am also just as quick to point out that Lufkin does it's share of game talking too, the difference is they are able to back it up most of the time and it is not flagrant stuff. I think the difference is that Coach Outlaw doesn't tolerate flagrant penalties by Lufkin players, but if his disipline policies were not in place, there are a couple of Lufkin's players that could act the same way. I could name two for sure and Pack08 knows were I am coming from there. We need to let Cove find out for themselves about KF and we need to take care of our business with Harker Heights this week or we won't have anything to talk about next week, because we will be in hiding or eating crow. We may need to watch what we say, because there is always a chance that Lufkin could have to play Klein Forest again, stranger things have happen.

[Favpack]

KF is definitely a team that could get on a roll - but I just don't think it happens - it will be a huge upset to beat Cove. I actually liked Klein Collins as an underdog much moreso last year and they got thumped in round 1. KF is just too inconsistent to actually played sustained enough to win IMO.