Garland Vs. TJT

[g-town07]

Looks like another classic et-metroplex matchup

with garland *hopefully* returning sloan (not sure how his ankle will hold up, or if it will be "go"able at all)

wooten looked pretty good last night vs lakeview, and the offense finally got ing later on in the 1st half, only the 2nd time *besides 5ot desoto* to score over 40 pts
looks like the short quick pass can tear up the secondary, but borrens was held in check rather well

i dont know anything about TJT except they came out of nowhere this year and it seems like they switched everything with lee lol, but 5-1 in an et district is pretty good

i go with garland in a close one, because TJT has something to prove and garland wants another shot at carter

[GarlandOwl06]

Actually Dantes ankle was a go this week, but the only reason he did not play is to prevent any kind of chance to further injury......

I was a little mad Horn choked so badly but im not afraid playing TJT. This is gonna be a great game with two good defenses going at it. Im not going to predict any scores for any of our playoff games this year but i hope and believe that we can win.

[garlandowl08]

I think we will get to round 2 maybe round 3 and if we're lucky, round 4...after that its anyone's game because its nearly impossible to fluke your way into round 4 or 5...

[owlfan 1]

It would seem that JT's offense is all about short passing, and their defense is very fast and run-stuffing.

This will be a very tough matchup for Garland.

We need to have a HUGE crowd for this one!

[Bullshipper]

Play your game and you will beat them. GOOD LUCK.

[Kingwolf]

Play your game and you will beat them. GOOD LUCK.

Please do not let the LV game lull you into false security......their run defense is one of the best I have seen in a while. They fly to the ball, however they will overcommit to the run so if you have a passing game it will be open for you guys....Don't let them get on top of you b/c the defense gets stronger....the way to beat this defense is to use thier aggresiveness against them.........

JT offense is kinda ok....they were in four or five WR sets all night....try to spread you out and run from that....good athletes in thier WRs....just don't use them....the QB is awesome, he can run...he is the key, stop him, make him hurry his throws and you guys win....

Their O and D lines are outrageously big, wont believe it until you see it......

this will come down to the 4th....and how this young JT team rebounds from the beating they took....will reserve my prediction until later ;)

[garlandowl08]

I do not doubt JT's offensive abilitie4s, but I would have to say that Garland's D would most likely win that matchup on a perfect day for both teams (as in not a bad day like the DeSoto game for us). Brandon Antwine is a beast (in fact that is his nickname) and our defensive line is scary. Our secondary is not bad either with a player named John Murhpy who likes to get the D pumped...watch out for the garland D...

As for the Garland O...we are definately a running team, but this year we have been featuring two pretty good TE's, Kirk and Parker along with a couple of talented recievers...our depth at running back is a godsend too because we have the ability to save the starters for the end of the game.

[PurpleNation]

It would seem that JT's offense is all about short passing, and their defense is very fast and run-stuffing.

This will be a very tough matchup for Garland.

We need to have a HUGE crowd for this one!


Kerry Maddoxx there QB is one of the best Dual Threat's in the state he is only a Jr though. John Tyler is very inconssistant on offense there defense has played very good but they were exposed bad against Longview. This will be a good game. I think Garland has the upper hand but I think Cujo will be hyped about getting to the playoffs for the first time since 2000. Who ever wins this game I think will be playing in RD 4 vs the Lufkin/Longview winner.


John Tyler 28

Garland 24

[Red Raiders]

Looks like another classic et-metroplex matchup

with garland *hopefully* returning sloan (not sure how his ankle will hold up, or if it will be "go"able at all)

wooten looked pretty good last night vs lakeview, and the offense finally got ing later on in the 1st half, only the 2nd time *besides 5ot desoto* to score over 40 pts
looks like the short quick pass can tear up the secondary, but borrens was held in check rather well

i dont know anything about TJT except they came out of nowhere this year and it seems like they switched everything with lee lol, but 5-1 in an et district is pretty good

i go with garland in a close one, because TJT has something to prove and garland wants another shot at carter

Haha, I have said that before that seems like TJT switch with Lee on my other posts like 3 other. I thought it was funny.

Tyler John Tyler John Tyler John Tyler 24
Garland 14

[myround0]

I would say John Tyler is very good. Longview will make you over committ to the run, for obvious reason, I am sure JT will no committ to the run opf any other team like they did against Longview, also, I would think just about every team has decided they would committ to the run against Longview and make the passing game beat them. JT is a hand full and if you go into the half up by 14 you might be in trouble, they get better in the second half. I would not let the Longview game be any indication as to how good JT is, they are very good and if you sleep on them, there will bo no need to make travel plans for the week after next.

[CO99JTHS]

OKKKKK.....LONGVIEW!!! I'M A BELIEVER LOL. I know we're still a very formidable 5A football team. Not just any team can do what Longview did to us...I'm pretty much 100% sure about that. That's really a special Longview squad. As far as Garland goes...they'd be better off watching JT film versus an oppenent besides Longview. We got overwhelmed really fast and had to get out of character.

Garland vs JT

Never seen Garland but I like our chances against most 5A schools. We'ew not good enough to just show up and win though. This is a team that has to work very hard for victories. I'm glad you guys can say we're a run first team but..truth be told..since we lost our star tailback a month or so back..we really don't have an identity offensively. As Maddox goes..we go. As far as the defense goes...trust me, we're stout. It really more about how good Longview is as opposed to how bad JT is. We now know where we need to get. It'll be interesting to see how we resilient we are after a defeat like that.

[loboman]

If Antwine is such a stud why does he only play every other series.( atleast he did last night) And whoever posted that QB Maddox is a junior is wrong. He is a senior. He was a cornerback last year. Should be a good game. Good luck to both teams.

[GTown02]

If Antwine is such a stud why does he only play every other series.( atleast he did last night) And whoever posted that QB Maddox is a junior is wrong. He is a senior. He was a cornerback last year. Should be a good game. Good luck to both teams.
He plays every other series because the last two Garland coaches (Martin and Jordan) rotate players constantly... If you watch any Garland game, you will see players going in and out on just about every play; giving the starters and backups time to rest so that they are fresh at the end of games when it becomes important. It also allows those players that wouldnt normally play to gain experience so if they need to play, its not such a shock.

[pack0808]

Kerry Maddoxx there QB is one of the best Dual Threat's in the state he is only a Jr though. John Tyler is very inconssistant on offense there defense has played very good but they were exposed bad against Longview. This will be a good game. I think Garland has the upper hand but I think Cujo will be hyped about getting to the playoffs for the first time since 2000. Who ever wins this game I think will be playing in RD 4 vs the Lufkin/Longview winner.


John Tyler 28

Garland 24


Hey Purplenation is this the time i should say i told you so about JT!! ;) I said relax and talk to me after they played Longview and i predicted Longview would win by 28 and i hit on the head. Give me my props!! ;) I knew if the 4a div2 champ Kilgore could beat JT in ot then Longview would embarrass them and it turns out i was right. Do not get me wrong JT is vastly improved but they are far far from being back like many of you were saying. They are solid but not the power they once were yet. Not even close!! They could beat Garland but i doubt it!! I like Garland by 10.

[relraiderfan]

Kerry Maddoxx there QB is one of the best Dual Threat's in the state he is only a Jr though. John Tyler is very inconssistant on offense there defense has played very good but they were exposed bad against Longview. This will be a good game. I think Garland has the upper hand but I think Cujo will be hyped about getting to the playoffs for the first time since 2000. Who ever wins this game I think will be playing in RD 4 vs the Lufkin/Longview winner.


John Tyler 28

Garland 24

I agree with your assesment, however, Kerry Maddox is a senior. Most of the starters for John Tyler are seniors except for their stud running back who hurt his leg earlier in the season. I hope JT can make a run and bring back the CUJO spirit.

[garlandowl08]

If Antwine is such a stud why does he only play every other series.( atleast he did last night) And whoever posted that QB Maddox is a junior is wrong. He is a senior. He was a cornerback last year. Should be a good game. Good luck to both teams.


I know a lot of people think rivals.com does a poor job, but I have heard (not directly) that Atwine is the #12 player in the state...not sure about that though.

[loboman]

Im sure he is a great player. Ive only seen Garland play twice this year, but somebody that good should be in the game at all times. Playing every other series during the regular season, will he be in good enough shape to play every down in the playoffs. The competition will be alot tougher in the playoffs and I would think you would want a player of that caliber to be in the game on every down.

[Owls06]

We stompet lakeview in pretty badly.. did we really need our Best D Lineman in the entire game? Risking his health going into playoffs?

If you always have your impact players in the whole game, they are bound to get tired. Garland scored very quickly.. leaving the Garland D on the field most of the game.

Garland Vs. TJT

I am confident that Garland can go out and take this one. Garland's running has improved immensely with the introduction of our passing game. The TEs and WR David Little catch most everything thrown within their reach. I know Garland can pass some over the tpp to clear out the box for some running plays. So long as Tim Crosby does NOT play QB. Fumbled 3, Lost 2, and TD. Needless to say, hunter was in after that.

Garland 24
John Tyler 14

[Cujo]

Has anyone seen both Garland and John Tyler play this year?

If so, what is your take on this matchup?

[bleedgreen]

Hey Purplenation is this the time i should say i told you so about JT!! ;) I said relax and talk to me after they played Longview and i predicted Longview would win by 28 and i hit on the head. Give me my props!! ;) I knew if the 4a div2 champ Kilgore could beat JT in ot then Longview would embarrass them and it turns out i was right. Do not get me wrong JT is vastly improved but they are far far from being back like many of you were saying. They are solid but not the power they once were yet. Not even close!! They could beat Garland but i doubt it!! I like Garland by 10.
hey purplenation---so much for those ridiculous predictions of the Longview/JT game, huh?? need to get some more batteries for that crystal ball of yours, my friend--LOL....that gaMe was over after the first quarter...luckily, the 1st team was pulled half way through the 3rd or it would have been a hell of alot worse.....goes for all of the other "so-called" analysists that predicted a JT victory........i said that this Lobo team would be a different squad because of the Rockwall and NM games...they definitely have their second wind, now--watch out....Pack0808---brother, i don't know how the hell you do it, but you were one of few that predicted a blow-out in that game...and nailed it right on the head on top of that!! time to go to the boats...daddy needs some new shoes...........hey red Raiders---so much for your prediction, as well........man, that was ugly!!!!!

[pack0808]

hey purplenation---so much for those ridiculous predictions of the Longview/JT game, huh?? need to get some more batteries for that crystal ball of yours, my friend--LOL....that gaMe was over after the first quarter...luckily, the 1st team was pulled half way through the 3rd or it would have been a hell of alot worse.....goes for all of the other "so-called" analysists that predicted a JT victory........i said that this Lobo team would be a different squad because of the Rockwall and NM games...they definitely have their second wind, now--watch out....Pack0808---brother, i don't know how the hell you do it, but you were one of few that predicted a blow-out in that game...and nailed it right on the head on top of that!! time to go to the boats...daddy needs some new shoes...........hey red Raiders---so much for your prediction, as well........man, that was ugly!!!!!



Hey Bleed this is the 4th Lobo game i have predicted exactly in the last 2 years. Not too bad huh!! But i predicted Lufkin would beat Longview by 10 last year and i was right also so you might not like all of my predictions. ;) ;)

[GoOwls]

Im sure he is a great player. Ive only seen Garland play twice this year, but somebody that good should be in the game at all times. Playing every other series during the regular season, will he be in good enough shape to play every down in the playoffs. The competition will be alot tougher in the playoffs and I would think you would want a player of that caliber to be in the game on every down.

You are absolutely correct. I've been preaching this all the last half of the season, but I'm not getting any converts. I'm a miserable failure as a preacher, but I'm dead right.

The coach rotates the players, religiously, and I really don't have a problem with it. He is copying Coach Martins' style when we won state. Therein lies the problem. We don't have the depth of talent that the 1999 team did and teams are sitting back and throwing their misdirection plays when the front line guys rorate out, and that is when they are having most of their success.

Let me focus on two big district games.

Against South Garland, they scored when Antwine and the main guys rotated out, or gained most of the yared with them out. Against Rowlett for the district title, they scored first on a drive when Antwine wasn't in the game the whole series. They drove 80 or so yards with him and most of the other front liners on the bench. The second drive, Antwine was in for the first 3 plays and waved to the sideline and came out, obviously winded, and sat on the bench. He stayed there until Rowlett completed a pass to the 7 yardline. He came in, but Rowlett scored on the next play that was run away from him anyway. In the last 5 games, I have seen him rotate himself out of the game, due to being tired, at least 2 times a game. In other words, rotating himself out of the game, outside of even the coaches' rotation and go to the bench and sit there completely gassed.

Antwine especially, and about half of the starters are out of game shape. The are so used to playing a limited amount of plays per game that if they are called on to play a whole game, which they will be, as soon as this weekend, so the team can stay competitive, they will be unable to answer the bell. A father whose kid plays on the team even told me that there was a general lack of cardiovascular conditioning, in his and his kids' opinion, during this falls' practices.

Looking down the road, the most likely opponents for Garland would be JT, Carter, Copperas Cove, Lufkin or Longview, Southlake, and one of those really good region 3 schools and Katy. All of these teams, except for JT, are in the top 10 in the state. These team will ALL be able to exploit the Garland rotation as there are holes to be exploited. That means that the coach will have to, at some point, drop the rotation and play the first teamers most of, if not the whole game.

I'm here to say that it could happen as early as this week against JT, butwhen it does, maybe somebody in charge will realize that we don't have near the talent, or talent depth that the 1999 team did and the same scheme won't work for this group. But of course, it will be too late because Antwine can't just suddenly get into shape, and none of the others can either. They will be called on to perform and there won't be any gas in the tank.

I guess I've been watching too many Celina games over the years, where routinely, 4-6 guys will play offense, defense, special teams......everything. Those guys have to be in terrific shape to do that, their success shows that they are. I just don't see why it's so difficult to get a bunch of kids at the 5A level to get into game shape.

Rotating is fine so you have experienced player to fill in for injuries, but those startes should not work out based on playing 25-30 snaps, they should work out and be PREPARED to play every down..........that is if they want to win state as opposed to just simply surviving highschool ball and getting the free ride to college.

It's one thing to have heart at game time, which the Owls do have, but if you are unwilling to do the work to prepare yourself for the workload, it's all pretty hollow, isn't it?

[garlandowl08]

not to be pessimistic or anything... ;)

[GoOwls]

not to be pessimistic or anything... ;)

Gotcha!! ;) But you know I'm right. :eek:

[loboman]

Rotating players as much as Garland does might hurt them Sat. Dont let the outcome of the JT/Longview game mislead you. JT is a very good team and extremely fast. Good Luck. (glad to see someone agreed with my earlier post)

[rowlettoline64]

Antwine in a big time player and he should be played 90% of the game. Granted, everyone gets tired, as a leader he should lead by example and show that the pain is nothing and he should keep fighting. Taking himself out of a game is doing nothing but saying "hey if you're tired, give up" and if you ever told a coach you were tired and giving up, you might as well turn in your jersey. I know, personally, at Rowlett we did alot of conditioning with boot camp and such, learning to keep your composure when times get tough, and if you can't handle it, you pay with pushups (God that sucked!). They do that because we don't rotate on offense, just recievers and occasionally Speed will come in for Pierce after a long run or something. Defense rotates their lines, but that's normal.

Bottom line is, if Antwine sits himself out, Garland could be in some trouble as we have seen that teams do their best when he is off the field.

[bleedgreen]

Hey Bleed this is the 4th Lobo game i have predicted exactly in the last 2 years. Not too bad huh!! But i predicted Lufkin would beat Longview by 10 last year and i was right also so you might not like all of my predictions. ;) ;)
hey, a prediction is a prediction--regardless of the outcome....you're pretty good at it, brother....now predict me a win on saturday..........lol

[GTown02]

Antwine in a big time player and he should be played 90% of the game. Granted, everyone gets tired, as a leader he should lead by example and show that the pain is nothing and he should keep fighting. Taking himself out of a game is doing nothing but saying "hey if you're tired, give up" and if you ever told a coach you were tired and giving up, you might as well turn in your jersey. I know, personally, at Rowlett we did alot of conditioning with boot camp and such, learning to keep your composure when times get tough, and if you can't handle it, you pay with pushups (God that sucked!). They do that because we don't rotate on offense, just recievers and occasionally Speed will come in for Pierce after a long run or something. Defense rotates their lines, but that's normal.

Bottom line is, if Antwine sits himself out, Garland could be in some trouble as we have seen that teams do their best when he is off the field.
He doesnt sit himself out.... Where have you read that? Garland COACHES rotate people in and out on just about every play... its not up to the players to decided when to come out, its the coaches decision... Unless they are hurt... thats a different story...