Its back on The Haka vs. SLC

[griggie1969]

Its back on. Euless Trinity beat Irving McArthur 31-24 so now hopefully Grapevine will win tonight so the showdown can take place. Trinity gave up 300 yds passing though need to get that secondary together, hopefully it will be a classic.

[Favpack]

Its back on. Euless Trinity beat Irving McArthur 31-24 so now hopefully Grapevine will win tonight so the showdown can take place. Trinity gave up 300 yds passing though need to get that secondary together, hopefully it will be a classic.
That translates to 600 yards passing for SLC - better hurry up on that togetherness. If it happens - should be a great game - ET brings alot - if they bring it.

[implacable44]

That translates to 600 yards passing for SLC - better hurry up on that togetherness. If it happens - should be a great game - ET brings alot - if they bring it.

SLC will not get 600 yards passing on Trinity. They might not have the ball long enough to get that much yardage. Trinity will run and run and run and run.

[southlake thug]

Yeah 600 yds is ridiculous. But we do have one of the best QB's in the state, I think his name is.... MCELROY

[dragonfootballfan]

looks like Trinity needs more than a dance to stop the pass. Maybe they should get some new moves or maybe a new chant

[dragonsdaddy]

Its back on. Euless Trinity beat Irving McArthur 31-24 so now hopefully Grapevine will win tonight so the showdown can take place. Trinity gave up 300 yds passing though need to get that secondary together, hopefully it will be a classic.
the game last night had no bearing on et's place in the po's. they were going to be in the d-1 slot regardless, so your title is inaccurate, and misleading.

[DragonNation]

First of all, the "showdown" is not etched in stone. Grapevine has to take care of business.

But if it comes to pass, believe me the DragonNation will be ready for the Haka!!

[DragonFan]

The two things that I noticed about the last two Trinity games is that a big athletic Defensive line can stop the Trinity running game. A good passing game can beat the Trinity pass defense.

A game between SLC and Trinity will be determined in the trenches. I believe that the O-line of Trinity vs the D-line of SLC is where the game will be won. I feel that the O-line of SLC will beat the D-line of Trinity and SLC will score a lot of points. If the D-line of SLC can play to a draw on the O-line of Trinity then the Linebackers of SLC will stuff the run. If SLC stops Trinity twice then SLC wins by 14.

[PantherStang84]

They might not have the ball long enough to get that much yardage.

SLC doesn't need the ball very long! :rolleyes:

[implacable44]

The two things that I noticed about the last two Trinity games is that a big athletic Defensive line can stop the Trinity running game. A good passing game can beat the Trinity pass defense.

A game between SLC and Trinity will be determined in the trenches. I believe that the O-line of Trinity vs the D-line of SLC is where the game will be won. I feel that the O-line of SLC will beat the D-line of Trinity and SLC will score a lot of points. If the D-line of SLC can play to a draw on the O-line of Trinity then the Linebackers of SLC will stuff the run. If SLC stops Trinity twice then SLC wins by 14.


are you saying SLC has a big athletic defensive line ? I didnt know anyone had "stopped" their running game ?

How do you figure the O-line of SLC is superior to that of Trinity - what are you basing that on ? I know you "feel" that but there are others who don't agree - personally I think SLC will beat Trinity if Mcelroy is willing to get Mckay the ball as much or m ore than he did last week against Grapevine, but I don't know that SLC can stop them from running the ball.

[stinger]

Stop the running game? U R nuts!!! They get their runing no matter who it is. There are some things that need to be worked out. Last night Trinity showed that they can overcome mistakes. Check the possession stat. it does not matter if you pass. You must have the ball to do it. Ninety seven yard rushing drives can hurt anybody. It is more demoralizing than passing. The defense comes off the field begging for the offense to give them a rest. POSSESSION is the key; and Trinity specializes in that.

[DragonFan]

Slowed down, forced to punt, may be better than Stopped. SGP has a very athletic and large d-line that did slow down the run and forced Trinity to punt.

The SLC Defensive Front is big and Athletic and have stopped some of the metroplexes most prolific offenses.

I stated that the O-line of SLC will be able to handle the D-line from Trinity.
I also stated that the D-line of SLC will be able to at least force a draw on the Trinity O-line.

Just observations based on games I have seen. Good luck to both teams!

[BigFoot]

The knocks on ET's defense have some validity ...However, the one stat no one mentioned is they intercepted 3 IMAC passes...even though he had ALL the TIME in the world according to the post. They gave the receiver a lot of respect for his speed and moves especially in the first half. I noticed they tightened it up in the latter part of the game. Hopefully, quarter by quarter they have learned some things about the spread offense.

[SLCDRGN]

SLC will not stop the Trinity running game just like Trinity will not stop the SLC passing game. This will be a high scoring game. I think SLC has a better chance of slowing down the Trinity running game than Trinity has of slowing the SLC passing game. Turnovers could decide this game.

Trinity has a power offense with buildings anchoring the offensive line. Pure power football with little or no passing game. They must control the clock and keep the SLC "O" off of the field. If Trinity can allow the Dragons only 3 possessions each half and KEEP the ball on the ground they have a good chance to win. The concern I see for Trinity is their defense. I really was not impressed with their "D" at all. Irving Mac's spread offense was weak at best in my opinion and they had a lot of success against the Trinity "D". How many times did their QB throw in double coverage? The SLC 'D" is bigger, stronger & faster than Mac's. This will be the best "D" Trinity has faced to date! Edge.....Trinity

The SLC offense is not as good as last year but it is still VERY good! There is no offense in the state with better receivers than the Dragons. The runningback situation is still up in the air, however. Newton has shown greatness at times and he has also struggled at times as well. This could be the deciding factor!! Tre Newton must play & play well or SLC will become one deminsional. I don't believe Dodge wants to put the entire burden on McElroy to win the ballgame. If this happens, it could spell trouble. With that said, I believe McElroy will be able to throw all over this defense. Mac had open receivers in the secondary all night last night. Their quarterback was just not accurate enough to make the throws. McElroy can make all the throws + he is as accurate as I have seen. This will open up the defense for Newton and he will accumulate yards. Edge.......SLC

Score prediction:

This game will be as billed for 3 quarters. Trinity moving the ball on the ground & SLC moving the ball in the air. Trinity will wear down in the Third quarter and SLC will close it out in the fourth.

SLC 63
Trinity 45

[TxLawDawg]

The knocks on ET's defense have some validity ...However, the one stat no one mentioned is they intercepted 3 IMAC passes...even though he had ALL the TIME in the world according to the post. They gave the receiver a lot of respect for his speed and moves especially in the first half. I noticed they tightened it up in the latter part of the game. Hopefully, quarter by quarter they have learned some things about the spread offense.

This is true, but anyone at the game last night can attest that 2 of those interceptions were absolute HORRIBLE passes by the IMAC quarterback. Accordingly, Christmas came early this year for ET's #13. Don't expect to get the same from other QB's in the playoffs.

[dragonsdaddy]

there's no way for either team to score that many points, in my estimation. the et offense had the ball for 34+ MINUTES LAST NIGHT. EVEN WITHOUT THE TURNOVERS, IMAC WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ENOUGH TIME LEFT OR POSSESSIONS TO SCORE 9 TDS.(sorry) the winner will be in the high 30s imo.

[SLCDRGN]

The QB forn Mac last night could NOT throw the long ball with any accuracy. I don't know how many times he threw into double coverage. There were several instances that come to mind (#3 in the 4th quarter) where the Receiver went up and caught the ball in double coverage. Trinity should have had a few more interceptions. McElroy (SLC) will not make those bonehead throws!!

[DragonFan]

The three interceptions were gifts from IMac. The first was a very badly thrown ball into double coverage, IMac only threw to 1 player all night. The other interceptions was because the reciever gave up on the ball and allowed another double coverage guy to get to the ball, and the third was off the hands of the reciever who had room to run had he held onto the ball. These were good plays by the secondary but not the type of plays that are created by the sencondary. These were give me's that turned the game to Trinity favor.

Trinity will be a very tough opponent for SLC if the game happens!

[SLCDRGN]

No reason to apologize there D-Daddy..........We all have our own opinion!!

[dragonsdaddy]

i was too lazy or stupid to retype/edit the upper case, not about my opinions. you know me better than that.

[baylordad]

Just remember "Crow" taste terrible!! That is why I quit coming up with wildass predictions years ago!!

[farmerfan]

The three interceptions were gifts from IMac. The first was a very badly thrown ball into double coverage, IMac only threw to 1 player all night. The other interceptions was because the reciever gave up on the ball and allowed another double coverage guy to get to the ball, and the third was off the hands of the reciever who had room to run had he held onto the ball. These were good plays by the secondary but not the type of plays that are created by the sencondary. These were give me's that turned the game to Trinity favor.

Trinity will be a very tough opponent for SLC if the game happens!

I agree with 99% of your post.

The one aspect I dont agree with are how you stated that the TO's Trinity received turned the game into their favor. Trinity had back to back possesions where they also turned the ball over, that is what allowed Mac to get back into the game, Trinity was up at the time 17-7, had Vittatoe not fumbled it possibly could have been 24-7 Trinity, after I-Mac scored Nance then fumbled on the next possesion that allowed I-Mac to tie the game at 17. Turnovers are a curcial part of any game and Trinity commited two costly ones. That is something they cant do if htey want to go deep in the playoffs.
We will know tonight if this game between Trinity and SLC will take place, if it does not then all this talk about the Trinity weakness in Trinity's secondary will be for not, as I dont think they will play a team that can expose that weakness like SLC could.

[DragonFan]

I agree with your disagreement :confused: .

I misspoke. The last int sealed the game for Trinity. I believed that IMac was going to score on that possesion but the ball just bounced the wrong way! Turnovers are key to any game. That was the difference from a SLC blowout of Grapevine to a close game. SLC gave Grapevine 9 points! Take those 9 points away and it is just another 28- 14 SLC win.

[toonman]

A few comments on the posts.

There is no way SLC scores 63 points on ET. If this match up does happen, I think SLC wins it.

There is no doubt SLC has the best receiving group in the state. I read SLC are 8 deep, with the back-ups starting if they were at any other school. I cannot see ET’s defense containing SLC receivers.

In terms of yards – I checked the stats on last week's mediocre win - there was still over 500 yards of SLC offense.

From what I have read about SLC, I agree with comments that SLC can score quick. The televised Denton Ryan game showed that fact.

Again, looking at the reports highly recruited Trent Hines and Emmanuel Moody were shut down in the second half. I am sure SLC has faced other high profile running backs that have not had 4 quarters of success against SLC.

SLC has dominated the district, apart from Grapevine. On another day I am sure SLC would put the normal 50 points on Grapevine, just like they have done in every district game. ET however dominated the weak teams in the district but struggled against the good teams - SGP and I Mac. No matter the result of the Grapevine vs Heritage - SLC wins against any of the District 6 teams in either D1 or D2.

Another comment about SLC not being as good as last - the numbers tell a different story. More points scored by 2005, less points conceded by 2005, bigger margin of victory by 2005.

On other SLC posts, I see that Newton, Ortega and Simpson are all injured. SLC do need these players for the play-offs, especially Newton, a running game is a necessary balancing factor in the spread offense.

If it happens : SLC 35-ET 14

[drgnbkr]

A few comments on the posts.

There is no way SLC scores 63 points on ET. If this match up does happen, I think SLC wins it.

There is no doubt SLC has the best receiving group in the state. I read SLC are 8 deep, with the back-ups starting if they were at any other school. I cannot see ET’s defense containing SLC receivers.

In terms of yards – I checked the stats and list week mediocre win, there was still over 500 yards of SLC offense.

From what I have read about SLC, I agree with comments that SLC can score quick. The televised Denton Ryan game showed that fact.

Again, looking at the reports highly recruited Trent Hines and Emmanuel Moody were shut down in the second half. I am sure SLC has faced other high profile running backs that have not had 4 quarters of success against SLC.

SLC has dominated the district, apart from Grapevine. On another day I am sure SLC would put the normal 50 points on Grapevine, just like they have done in every district game. ET however dominated the weak teams in the district but struggled against the good teams - SGP and I Mac. No matter the result of the Grapevine vs Heritage - SLC wins against any of the District 6 teams in either D1 or D2.

Another comment about SLC not being as good as last - the numbers tell a different story. More points scored by 2005, less points conceded by 2005, bigger margin of victory by 2005.

On other SLC pots, I see that Newton, Ortega and Simpson are all injured. SLC do need these players for the play-offs, especially Newton, a running game is a necessary balancing factor in the spread offense.

If it happens : SLC 35-ET 14

Another way to look at it...Carroll's offense is considerably better than I-Macs, if the Defenses are even (Carroll & I-Mac) which I think is being kind to I-Mac...Carroll should win..on paper...but thats why they play the game...

[BigFoot]

The QB forn Mac last night could NOT throw the long ball with any accuracy. I don't know how many times he threw into double coverage. There were several instances that come to mind (#3 in the 4th quarter) where the Receiver went up and caught the ball in double coverage. Trinity should have had a few more interceptions. McElroy (SLC) will not make those bonehead throws!!

Well that bad pass could have had something to do with the pressure he had on him from the defense. I am not saying ET was perfect but that did somethings right and it is always great to have a bit of luck too.

[drgnbkr]

Well that bad pass could have had something to do with the pressure he had on him from the defense. I am not saying ET was perfect but that did somethings right and it is always great to have a bit of luck too.

Hey, Trinity hung some sick stats on Mac last night...If Trinity can maintain some long drives againt a good defense, they can play with anyone...I hope we get to play...it will be a great game...like they say..to be the best you have to beat the best....

[dragonsdaddy]

i only got to listen to the radio broadcast, so i'm handicapped, but i got the feeling on the 2 long drives that the imac defense was trying to repair the levees from being katrinaed. very impressive. they didn't need to pass with that sort of success.

btw, the et announcers were very good. not nearly the homers i have come to expect from local hs games.

[dragonbuck]

You missed a good one Ddaddy. "Katrinaed" I think you have just coined a new one


(By the way, SLC by 17. even if forced to be 1 dimensional, SLC passing attack will flourish -400+. ET will gain yards on the ground but 250-300 max.)

[drgnbkr]

i only got to listen to the radio broadcast, so i'm handicapped, but i got the feeling on the 2 long drives that the imac defense was trying to repair the levees from being katrinaed. very impressive. they didn't need to pass with that sort of success.

btw, the et announcers were very good. not nearly the homers i have come to expect from local hs games.

I was there, & to give Mac credit, they got up after getting rolled & lined up again..only to get rolled for 8 more yards..they hung tough but the levee had sprung too many leaks...